TCB Infomercial: Larry The Cable Guy

Summary

The Commercial Break – TCB Infomercial: Larry The Cable Guy (Oct 7, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this episode, Bryan Green sits down with Daniel Whitney, aka Larry the Cable Guy, for an upbeat, story-filled conversation covering Larry’s journey from radio prankster to comic giant and cultural icon. They dive deep into the origins and evolution of his iconic “Mater” role in Pixar’s Cars franchise, reflect on the seismic success of the Blue Collar Comedy Tour, and discuss the ins and outs of making show business work as a standup. Through honest, funny, and nostalgic anecdotes, Larry underscores the importance of authenticity—both on stage and off. The conversation radiates warmth, humility, and gratitude for unlikely breaks, kind collaborators, and generations of fans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

[10:38] Beginnings of Mater and Pixar’s Cars

• Mater Developed Specifically for Larry:

  • Larry was approached by Pixar after they found his distinctive voice perfect for a new tow truck character (originally named Zeb, later Mater).
  • "I never would imagine a million years. ... All those years of not getting paid and doing it, not knowing where it would lead... just the fact that all that work came to fruition of something that you would have never thought would have happened to it, I was just so thankful I could not believe it." (Larry, [14:24])

• First Contact and Process:

  • Received a fax (yes, an actual fax) from Pixar; didn’t believe he’d landed the part without auditioning.
  • John Lasseter and the Pixar team hosted Larry in San Francisco, offering him local standup gigs while in town for the voice sessions.

• Discovery that Steve Jobs attended his show:

  • Larry didn’t recognize Steve Jobs, even as Jobs sat in on a performance at the Punchline in SF—underscoring his rootsy humility and “just a guy from Nebraska” vibe. ([18:43])

• Mater's Enduring Role and Cultural Impact:

  • Pixar expanded Mater’s role, recognizing he was the "heart and soul" of the movie, leading to rewrites and multiple recording sessions.
  • Mater bridged generational gaps—Larry notes people from toddlers to college students to adults approach him about the character's impact.

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[22:23] Mater as a Cross-Generational Phenomenon

• “With any entertainer, people that like you grow old with you… but when Mater came along, it is so cool now to go places, and kids from 5 years old, 4 years old, all the way up into college and people in their 30s... it shows me just how popular it was.” (Larry, [23:00])

• Connection to Youth:

  • Larry honestly admits the difficulty of tailoring comedy to younger audiences and how Mater organically brought him to whole new demographics.

• Mater Saves the Day:

  • Recalls being invited to speak to the University of Nebraska athletic department, initially bombing with younger students using old-school references—until he switched to Mater and they went wild. "Thank God for Mater. Man, he pulled me out of this situation." (Larry, [25:01])

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[26:29] The Creation of Mater: Authenticity Matters

• Larry discussed with Pixar's John Lasseter whether Mater should be played "slower or fast-paced." Lasseter replied, “He’s you. ... That’s why I hired you, because you’re Mater.”

  • “So that’s what I did. I just took what I do on stage and did it as Mater and he loved it." (Larry, [26:29])

• Mater as Larry:

  • The character’s charm and sincerity root in Larry’s own personality—“off stage, I’m kind of like Mater."
  • Mater is “nice, likes people, is naive ... I put really a lot of my personality into the Mater character.” (Larry, [27:36])

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[29:32] Mater’s Future & Disney/Streaming Insights

• New Series & Evolving Content:

  • Upcoming Mater content: 60 new episodes headed to Disney Junior, featuring new friends and targeting younger viewers.
  • On "Cars on the Road" (Disney+): Larry posits this recent series is essentially the fourth Cars movie, delivered as a series of connected shorts due to streaming trends.
  • "I think the success now is just to keep it going with these small shorts. That’s probably what you’re going to see now." ([31:13])

• Business Smarts: Recognizes Disney’s approach to theme parks and kids networks as “a smart business model, but also good television.” ([32:23])

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[33:17] The Hustle: Radio, Standup, & Building a Brand

• Radio Roots and Strategy:
  • Started doing “Larry the Cable Guy” calls for local radio, eventually picked up by 27 stations.
  • Most of these were unpaid, but Larry leveraged exposure—asking only for local comedy clubs to promote his gigs, a business-savvy approach for a young comic.
  • "That’s how I started getting radio stations. ... Within three years... I became one of the top two highest paid comedy club draw comedians.” (Larry, [39:20])

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[41:10] Show Business: “Show” vs. “Business”

• Larry recounts advice from Jeff Foxworthy: “…in show business, there are two words. There's show, which everybody loves, but then there's the business, which not everybody loves… in order to have a good show, you gotta be good at the business end… or you’re not gonna get as much show.” (Larry, [41:41])

• The importance of treating comedy as both an art and a business—early hustle, smart deals, and eventually delegating duties to management.

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[43:44] Blue Collar Comedy Tour: The Breakthrough

• How He Joined:

  • Larry was a late addition to the Blue Collar lineup (the “Ringo Starr”). Joined after wowing Foxworthy at a Grand Ole Opry show.
  • Only auditioned after the tour had already started, but immediately showed his prowess with a rapid-fire delivery that even impressed Ron White.
  • The chemistry of the group “lifted every act even higher. We all loved each other. I still love it. I miss those days.” (Larry, [51:04])

• Memorable Quote:

  • "If I wouldn’t have done that show at the Ryman, I never would have got that audition and I would have never got on Blue Collar. So—business. Show business, business!” ([51:38])

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[51:38] The “Git-R-Done” Phenomenon

• Ubiquity of the Tagline:
  • Bryan notes hearing the phrase everywhere, even at the Ryder Cup golf tournament.
  • Larry: “Well, it’s good for anything... Get her done. Whatever you got to do, just get her done. Give 110%.” ([52:28])

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[53:48] Life Balance, Family, and Current Career

• Larry deliberately scaled back touring to not miss his children’s milestones, advice he took from Foxworthy.
  • “I did it the right way. Jeff said if you ever have a chance to, don’t miss anything your kids do.”
  • As of 5–6 years ago, limits live shows to about 24 per year, spending the rest of the time at home or working on creative projects. ([54:16])
  • Continues to appear on SiriusXM and various TV/streaming projects.

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[55:44] A Heartfelt Finish

• Larry closes by offering a personalized Mater message for Bryan’s kids, an off-air gesture that deeply moves Bryan and encapsulates Larry’s generosity and gratitude:
  • “I tell you what, I’m happier than the tornador in the trailer park... If you ever get to Radiator Springs, we’ll all do us some backward driving… see you later, this is Mater.” ([55:44])
• Host Bryan, typically irreverent, is left touched and speechless: “It’s not often that I’m at a loss for words on this show, but today… What a generous guy.” ([58:00])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Show Business vs. Art:
  “There’s two words in show business. There’s show, which everybody loves, but then there’s the business, which not everybody loves. ... In order to have a good show, you gotta be good at the business end.”
  — Larry the Cable Guy ([41:41])

• On the surprise of Mater’s impact:
  “Just the fact that all that work came to fruition of something that you would have never thought would have happened to it, I was just so thankful I could not believe it.”
  — Larry ([14:24])

• On Mater’s intergenerational power:
  “When Mater came along, it is so cool now to go places and kids from 5... up into college and people in their 30s... they go, they it shows me just how popular it was.”
  — Larry ([23:00])

• On kindness and connection:
  “Everyone on earth wants the same thing. Time, attention, love and shelter. ... All the other stuff is just details and details can always be worked out as long as we’re doing it respectfully.”
  — Bryan ([58:00])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Mater and Pixar Story Begins: [10:38]
• Steve Jobs Attends a Show: [18:40]
• Expanding Mater’s Role: [21:14]
• Mater Resonates Across Generations: [22:23]
• Mater’s Cultural Power/University Anecdote: [23:49]
• Larry on Authenticity as Mater: [26:29]
• New Disney Series/Streaming Discussion: [29:32]
• Larry’s Grassroots Radio Hustle: [33:17]
• Show vs. Business, Foxworthy Advice: [41:10]
• Joining Blue Collar Comedy Tour: [43:44]
• Legacy of 'Git-R-Done': [51:38]
• Personal Touch for Host’s Kids: [55:44]
• Host’s Afterword—Gratitude for Larry: [58:00]

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Tone & Vibe

• Genuine, lighthearted, story-rich, with moments of warmth and humility.
• Larry is candid about his roots and business acumen, yet deeply grateful for career breaks.
• The host is clearly a fan, creating a familial, friendly tone throughout.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a treasure trove for comedy and Pixar fans alike, and especially for anyone interested in how a grassroots character can leap from late-night radio prank to global cultural fixture. Larry’s affable nature, business smarts, and warmth shine—likely just as appealing for longtime fans as to those newly discovering him through Mater or the Blue Collar Comedy Tour. The episode is also a testament to creativity, perseverance, and the unpredictable, human side of showbiz.

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Links to Larry the Cable Guy’s new special, Cars content, and tour dates are available in the show notes.

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The legendary Larry the Cable Guy is with me right now on the tele podcasting machine. Thank you very much. I'm really, I'm really grateful for your time. As I was just mentioning, you know, I know you in a couple different ways. I know you because I, I like you. I like your comedy. I think you're very obviously, you have a gift for being funny. And then I see you through a whole different world, which is the Pixar world. And you know, my kids are just, they just think that Mater is the best thing ever. Cars is the best thing ever. Mater is the best thing ever. But I'm, I'm more.

[C]

Yeah, just like Tom made it without the T. Do you have it?

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Do you guys have a new, like, serialized show you're doing on Disney plus? Is that right?

[C]

Yeah, we have a brand new one where I think it's going to be 60 episodes.

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Holy.

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But it's coming out on Disney Junior.

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It's going to be on Disney Junior. Oh my God, my kids are going to flip.

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Yeah. Gonna be on Disney Junior. I'm looking for the. We've had a ton of these. You know, we used to do Tales from Radiator Springs and then. Oh, it's Cars on the road again. The last one was on Disney plus and this one is on Disney Junior. And the reason it's on Disney Junior is there's Mater's got a couple of new friends that I think everybody's gonna like on Disney Junior.

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So I think. Is it. I've talked to a lot of people who have done voice work, characters and they have been immortalized in these characters. And now there's generations of children who have grown up and you know, could you have ever imagined when you started reading how did you get the job for material?

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I never would imagine a million years. I, you know, I was out on the road and I had just really started heavily touring, just jumping in between large theaters and Arenas in 2002. And I got a fax. Back when we had fax machines, I.

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Had a fax kids. I'll explain that in the outro. Yeah, it's so weird.

[C]

You talk about a fax machine and think it's, you know, but man, that was really in the past a fax machine. But. And it was just my manager said to go look at the fax machine and it, and it said it was a note from Pixar. It was a very nice note talking about how they loved my stand up and. But they, my voice was the perfect voice and they said, we would love you to be the voice of our small town tow truck, Zeb. And his name at the time was Zeb.

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That just doesn't fit.

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I told. Yeah, no it doesn't. So I told, I told my manager, what does this mean? I go, and I was already doing pretty good. I just got a good footing and a stand up and got all these dates and I'm busting it and I'm so excited because my, the end of careers kicking. And I literally said, oh, I don't want to have, do I got to go all over there and audition or what do I do? Because I don't. We're, I mean, I'm never home. I don't want to have to fly. I mean, I'm very flattered, but what does this mean? And he goes, well, you got the part. I go, I got the part. He goes, yeah, you don't have to audition. They, they like your voice and you already got the part. And I, and I'll be honest, I, my first thought was, man, I gotta start watching Pixar movies.

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I gotta figure out what this shit's all about.

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Yeah, no, I know, I know about them, but I, I don't, you know, I didn't have any kids. I was, let's see, 93. Yeah, I mean I was in my late 30s and I wasn't married yet. I had no kids. So, you know. Yeah, why would you know, Pixar wasn't really in my movie interest, you know. And so I went and I got some stuff and watched them. I was so excited. And that's how I got it. And I went out there Just to give you a little brief of it, I went out there. Well, first of all, I started tearing up and shed a little tear there because I had been doing this character on radio for so long. Yeah, I did Larry the Cable Guy on radio stations for 13 straight years, a total of 25 to 27 radio stations every week, pushing Larry the Cable Guy as just a radio character. And then, of course, I started breaking out doing standup, doing the character. But, you know, all those years of not getting paid and doing it, not knowing where it would lead, but it was fun to do. And just. Just the fact that all that work came to fruition of something that you would have never thought would have happened to it, I was just so thankful I could not believe it. And. And I go out there and John Lasseter was so nice to me and all the Pixar crew. As a matter of fact, when I went out for the weekend, they. The Punchline in San Francisco, in the early twos, they gave me the weekend so that I could make some money while I'm out there, because, you know, so I just don't sit around doing nothing. They said, yeah, come on out and work the club. So I went out and worked the weekend at the Punchline, and, man, I just had a blast. And. And, oh, yeah, interesting story about that. I. I'm not really up on, like, computers and stuff like that. I'm a 1963 model, so.

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It takes a minute. It's moved so fast right now, too. And I understand. I understand. I get it.

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And. Yeah, and what's funny about that is when I went to college at a small Baptist college in Georgia, I worked at Radio Shack 214.214 or something, Candler Road, Decatur, Georgia. And I worked at Radio Shack down there, Mills Creek Road. Anyway, that's where I am.

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That's where I am.

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I'm in Georgia. Okay. Yeah, there you go. My college was 2145 Candler Road.

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I know.

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Right up the. Right up the. Right up the road from the South DeKalb Mall. And I worked at that Radio Shack. But it was really funny. People were buying computers and they. And at the time, they sold a Tandy 2000 and the color 64 color computer. And I was in charge of, like, selling things. What's the difference between these two? And I go, well, this is 2000. This is only 64. So this has got more power. Well, yeah, yeah, it's got more zeros. Yeah, that's how I used to sell. Anyway, long story short, I'm out There and so I don't know anything about computers but in the crowd that night and I had no idea. I finished my show and I'm watching John Laster. He's sitting with a guy and they're just laughing their heads off. I had such a great time and I get done and shaking hands, saying hi and thanks all the pig. A lot of Pixar people came out and one of the waitress comes up and goes, man, that is so cool that he came to your show. I go, yeah, John's awesome. He goes, no, Steve Jobs. He never goes out. I go, Steve Jobs, who's that? Steve Jobs man, whatever.

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Oh, okay, cool dude. Yeah, Microsoft. Who's, who's that guy?

[C]

They're Apple, whatever. Yeah, but yeah, he was there and they said he never goes out. And the fact that he came to your show, it was a big deal like to the way he never goes out. So he was at the show. It was just a really fun weekend. And I did. I only had, I'll be honest with you, I only had maybe 20 lines, 15 lines maybe. Really something like that. And I got done. There might have been more than that. It seemed like only about 15, there might have been 25 maybe. But I get home and I had such a good time. I get home and then I go out on the road. So I'm heavily touring. I come home for about 10 days from a six month trip and I called my pa, got to thinking, I go, whatever happened to that cartoon? I was, I haven't heard anything, saw me. Whatever happened to that one? I know, honestly, I thought they didn't like it and so they just moved on. They canned me or whatever and I told my manager, man, did they fire me. Do they not like it? Because I haven't heard from them in like six, seven months. And he's like, yeah, whatever did happen to that? Yeah, let me call and find out what's going on. And so now I'm worried. So he calls back and he goes, hey, are you sitting down right now? And I go, oh man, don't tell me I don't, you know. And in my head I'm going, well, at least I didn't tell a ton of people so I'm not going to embarrass myself. I just told a few people and my wife knows and, and well, I wasn't married then, she's my girlfriend at the time. And he goes, they are rewriting some of the movie because they think Mater brings so much heart and soul into the movie they want to Add more of Mater. And right then I could. Yeah, I couldn't believe it. I'm like, this is the coolest thing ever. And so after that, man, I went over for one, two, three, I think four sessions. I flew to Emeryville and stayed the weekend and did like, yeah, I signed the wall over there. Between the first. First two movies. I signed the wall over there, I think 10 times. This has got to be.

[A]

I talked to Patton Oswald, who's Remy. Right. And I. In these characters that will live on forever, they're. They're freaking Ro. Rides. They're rides. You. You go to the parks and they're rides and you're there, your character's there. And this is all stems from, like, now that I'm hearing the story, this all stems from not some. Can you fit in this box? Can you do this voice? It stems from we wrote this character with you in mind. Like, you are the character. And that to me is a level of. I mean, just like the, the respect, the honor and all the work that you put in, like you said, to manifest itself in such a incredible way has got to be.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Just must feel so awesome. I can't think of any other word.

[C]

It really is. It's. It. I can't explain it. I'm so happy that it turned out to be what it did because it is a really cool character and. And just kids of. I mean, it brought in a whole age group because, you know, like any rock and roll band, the Blue Collar Comedy Tour, we had our fans.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And our fans grow old with us, you know, and you have a certain amount of material that sometimes goes to the younger people because you'll talk about things that they've been through as well. But my stuff was pretty much. I was a one liner, no nonsense kind of guy, but. And I had a crazy sense of humor. You know, I grew up with Monty Pythons Flying Circus and Benny Hill and Hee Haw and the Dean Martin roasts and Johnny Car. So that was my kind of style of humor. But like, with any. Any entertainer, people that like you grow old with you.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And so you really would like to catch the younger generation and do something for them. But it's so hard to really understand the culture that they're in that they like, because you're in your culture and you're in your environment. But when Mater came along, it is so cool now to go places and. And kids from 5 years old, 4 years old, all the way up into college and people in their 30s, I mean, they go. They it shows me just how popular it was. They come up to me all the time. I did. And to prove that was really crazy, I got invited to do just come in and say a few words to all the University of Nebraska athletics department.

[A]

Very cool.

[C]

And just to kind of open it up and welcome everybody and do some jokes. I told my buddy Troy, who's the athletic director, I said, troy, they don't know. I mean, my comedy is really not for college. You know, I'm not, you know, it's.

[A]

Not my target demographic.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, they're going to love you. I said, okay. So I came out, I did a couple of riffs off Troy, and then I did. I did. I opened up with a Willie Nelson pot joke, you know, because one time I met Willie Nelson and the whole deal. And so I do this joke, I get nothing. And now I'm dying. Now I'm going, you know what? I'm dying. I'm only up here for five minutes. I've got maybe one laugh. And so I go, well, let's switch gears here in my head. So I go, hey, does anybody know this? Hey, my name's Mater. Like tub Mater without the top. They went nuts. They raised their hands, they're laughing. They're like, it's Mater.

[A]

It's Mater.

[C]

And so for the next 15 minutes, all I did was Mater lines. And they asked me, I said, you got any questions? They threw out questions, and I killed it. They loved me. Thank God for Mater. Man, he pulled me out of this situation. It really is bizarre. And then when I got done, some girl or Troy told me the next day, he goes, man, he goes, I got a lot of good words from the kids. They loved it. That was one of their favorite starts to the season. And. And don't feel bad that first five minutes, because one of the girls from the volleyball team or one of the girls from the softball team came out to me and, hey, tell Dan. That's my real name. He says, tell Dan. He did. He was awesome. And tell him not to worry about nobody laughing early on. But because I'll be honest, I don't think anybody there knows who Willie Nelson is. Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh. I thought he was international.

[A]

Yeah. Is it this? He's a weed smoker, if anything. You know, college kids smoke weed. You know, Willie Nelson is.

[C]

I should have used Kendrick Lamar.

[A]

Kendrick Lamar would have gotten him going. I don't even know. Maybe Kendrick Lamar is phased out. It all moves so fast these days. I can't keep up.

[C]

Goes quick but going back, not to talk too much, but going back to.

[A]

What I said about this is why you're here, please, I'm enjoying this immensely.

[C]

Please go on about where they specifically like you for the character. And it's, it, it's, it's funny because when I first got in there, before I ever did my first line, I just wanted to make sure I did good. And so I said to John, hey, John, real quick, is Mater. Do you envision Mater, like, really, is he a slower guy or do you want him more of a fast paced type guy? And he goes, well, he's you. He goes, he's you. I just, that's why I hired you, because you're Mater. So you just. Tell you what, you just do what you do on stage and I'll be happy. And I said, okay. So that's what I did. I just, I just took what I do on stage and did it as Mater and he loved it. And so, yeah, so when I think that's what made her really, what made Mater really endearing and successful was I, basically, He's me.

[A]

It's authentic to you? Yes, it's you. It's coming through.

[C]

Yeah, he's me. Putting on an accent because I, I really, I feel like in real life, not on stage, because my show, so wacky and one liner, it's. But I feel like off stage, I'm kind of like Mater, you know, So I felt like I put really a lot of my personality into the Mater character because, you know, Mater's like me. He's. He's nice, he likes people, he's naive. He doesn't know, like, trying to sign up today to get on this call, I didn't know what the hell I was doing, you know, so. Yeah, so I think that's probably why that worked.

[A]

I think that, you know, that in, in those movies. And then, and then, and then we'll move on. I, I didn't mean to bring you here just to talk about Mater, because there's lots of stuff that you do.

[C]

But I know I, I made her Bough Studio. I'm talking about material. Mater. Mater pays for everything. So I'll talk about Mater all day.

[A]

I think that's another thing that I'm enjoying about this conversation is how much you enjoy the arc of what happened at, you know, behind the scenes with Mater, how you became Mater. And I think when you watch those movies, obviously Owen does a great job, like Lightning McQueen. You know, we all root for Lightning, right? But one of the. I think that Mater Pulls it together. He is like the heart and soul of. He's the guy who's giving color commentary in the heart and soul of the movie. And I believe that's probably what John saw when he went back and said six months later, we gotta put. This has gotta be like the connective tissue in these movies. And what a brilliant choice. I guess that's why Pixar has been so successful is because they know what the hell they're doing. But then now, 23 years later, you're doing another 60 episodes of the character. Are there plans to do another movie? Has anybody talked about doing another movie?

[C]

Well, here's. Now, I don't know if they. This is, I mean, I don't know any part of that. You know, they just had me do the voices. But I will say I, in my opinion, I think that the, the cars on the Road that was on. I think that was Cars on the Road. There's been so many of them. But the one that was on Disney plus.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

We watched it and it was, it was Mater going to his sister's wedding.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[C]

And McQueen and Mater went to it were traveling across the country to get to his sister's wedding. And that was nine 10 minute episodes, I believe it was. And I kind of consider that that was probably would have been the fourth movie because it was one continuous story. Yes. It was just, it was just nine different things that happened to them along the way. So pull out, you pull out the ending and just continue it. That's a movie.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think nowadays with the streaming services that the companies have, I think now it's more cost efficient instead of this big long production and then paying the cost to promote it and the whole movie side of it, I think it's more cost productive, I think, to put it on one of your streaming services. Bump up your streaming services because everybody that's got kids and loves cars are going to want to see it. They don't want to go to the theater. So I think that's probably what you're going to see now.

[A]

You might be right.

[C]

Disney plus, there's short episodes, there's 60 of them and they're awesome. I'm filming these and as I go filming these, I've never had more fun. I mean, I have fun at all of them. But I don't think I've laughed as much as this new series because there's a lot of really funny things that me and my buddy Chris that does all the sound and stuff up in Omaha, where we call in to pick our Emeryville. I mean, we laugh. I mean, there's some good stuff. So I think they'll probably go in that route. I doubt you're. I don't know, you might, but I don't think you would see another movie. I think the success now is just to keep it going with these small shorts. And I think that's probably bring another.

[A]

You'Re bringing another generation in with that Disney Junior too. I mean, I have small kids and this is what they watch, right? They watch Disney Junior and, and Disney Junior. That's a smart business. It's a smart business model. But then it's also good television. And I gotta be honest, like, of all the channels we could watch, I'm not, I'm not arguing with Disney Junior. Like, it's, I, I kind of like, you know, they got Bluey on there now. It's great.

[C]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. And they're, they're definitely doing the smart way, you know, and when I first saw that they were putting in back in the day, when I found out that there was a billion dollar theme park going in, I said to myself, I think there's probably going to be some more of these. I mean, you got to put gas in the tank to get people going to the theme park.

[A]

Yes, you do.

[C]

So.

[A]

And now I think they're, they're planning another one at this one. You never pay to go to a Disney park, do you? I bet. I'm sure you can walk in the front door.

[C]

That's a good thing. When my kids were younger, that was definitely a really good perk.

[A]

Yeah, I swear I made her. I swear I made her. That was a check with security.

[C]

Yeah, that's definitely a really good perk. No doubt about it.

[A]

13 years. You did 27. Did I get that right? Radio stations just. Were you doing this voice for free? Tell me more about this.

[C]

Yeah, well, when I, you know, when you're a standup comic and you're not popular, you're just trying to put butts in the seats, you look for other forms of income that can keep you out on the road and do standup. So I had a buddy of mine that was on a rock and roll station and he's, I think he's got a show on serious now. Ron Bennington, he had a comedy club in Clearwater. And Ron is so funny, man. He's, he's like one of the funniest guys on the planet. Him and I got to be good friends and, and so I would go over to his club as much as I could and do time and all that. But he wanted to get off the road. So he got on a morning show called 95 YNF over in Tampa. And I was doing characters on stage. One of them was Larry the Cable Guy. So he. Oh, you gotta call my radio station. And. And that's a hilarious char character. So that's how I started. I started doing the Larry the Cable Guy character. And so I ended up acquiring around 27 stations across the country, mainly in the Midwest and the South. There was a couple up in the northeast, up in Albany, New York. And. And then I had like Arizona. I had a couple in California. Where else? I think that was Colorado, Denver. So I would do these call ins and only. I think only three or four stations paid me.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Monthly to do it. Now the station in Orlando was where I was based out of. So I would go in as part of. Of the morning show whenever I wasn't on the road. I was a morning show person. So I was just a sidekick hanging out with Mark and Gloria on the morning show. And then when I had to go on the road, they'd let me go on the road and I would just do my call in commentary like normal.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

They treated me really good. It was awesome. And it was in Orlando and Central Florida. It was. And. And Tampa, St. Peter. It was a really pot. Larry the Cable Guy got really popular. I mean, they've been saying Gatorade down in central in florida for. Since 91.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Since I was 92. Since I was on the. And it was fun. But I. I didn't get paid by all of them. Three or four stations paid me. I made a really good extra living with the Orlando morning show. And then I'd go on the road. But when I first did Larry the Cable Guy on stage was in around 1995 and a guy named Les McCurdy at the McCurdy's Comedy Club in Sarasota billed me as Dan Whitney, aka Larry the Cable Guy from the radio station. And it sold out two shows in like 20 minutes. And to be. Yeah. And to be honest with you, I was kind of mad at him because at the time, Larry the Cable Guy was just a radio character.

[A]

Right. It's just. It's just a bit you're doing. You're like, I'm not gonna. It was on stage and do the whole thing as Larry.

[C]

Yeah, it was a bit that I was doing. It was nothing close to my act. My act was fast paced one liners, goofy f. Physical humor. Just Outrageous, saying, stupid. I mean, that's the kind of stuff that I like.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, and so Larry, you know, what am I gonna do? You know, they're gonna. So I get on stage and they're yelling out, you're done. Do some Larry. We want to hear Larry. So I. I dipped down into that and I basically just took my act and did it as the character. I got done with that first show, and I'm signing autographs and taking pictures, and it was unbelievable. So Les came up to me and he said, have you ever thought about doing your whole show like that? And I said, no, not really. It's so different, Les, from what I do. Besides, it's a radio character. I don't have any jokes for it. He goes, well, just do your jokes. Just. Can you talk like. Can you talk like that for an hour? I go, les, you know me, all I do is hang out in country bars. And I grew up at a pig farm in Nebraska. I can. I went. And my roommates were from Dalton, Georgia and Beaumont, Texas. I can talk like a freaking red knife with the best of them all day long.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, because it's like Fox where he says in his act, because I is one, you know, and so I. I kind of consider myself one. Anyway. I mean, I drove her.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah.

[C]

I mean, I drove over in an 86 trans AM with T tops with big blue Firebird on the hood. So I think I qualified. Yeah, I got this. So I went and I changed and I put on what I drove over in. I had a pair of lace up roper horse ride boots, and I had a pair of jeans cut off, Nebraska T shirt and a NASCAR hat. That's what I drove over, went on stage. He took my name off, introduced me as Larry the cable guy. And from that point on, I had. I had like three radio stations at the time, or four maybe while I was doing it. And a light bulb went off and I said, man, you know, if I could get more radio stations to get on, they could promote me at these comedy clubs and I could start selling some pretty good tickets. And that's what I did. And that's why I never asked for any pay. I told. Because radio stations were. When I'd go into a comedy club, they would say, boy, what's this thing you're doing on the radio? They would always ask me, because it was on bitboard across the United States for these morning shows.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I would tell them, well, you know, this is what I'm doing. I said, I'll do it for you guys too, if you want. Well, we can't afford that. You know, these radio, no charge. And I said, you ain't got to pay. Here's all I ask. I guarantee you, you it will get popular in a couple of months and you can either pay me out of, you can get it sponsored, you can pay me out of the sponsorship money, but you don't have to. All I ask is when I come work the comedy club again, make it a radio station promotion and just promote me as being at the club. It's a win win for everybody. You promote it. The comedy club doesn't have to spend as much money to promote it because you're already promoting it as a radio station event. And that's how it worked. And that's when I started getting radio stations. And within man three years, I think Rich Jenny, who was a friend of mine who is hilarious, I think him and I became the top two highest paid comedy club draw comedians. And I was only doing Midwest south and cut couple in the West. But that's how that started that whole thing right there and then the Voice.

[A]

So you're all shucks. Mater is not so aw shucks. This is, is, this is so incredibly smart of you. This, you're thinking like, I mean, listen, I say, I say this to some people who, who have podcasts and oh, you got ads. And at some point you, you need to be compensated for what you're doing. If you're creating and that's what you do for a living, then you have to be compensated. But you also have to think like a business sometimes, even, even while you're creating. Right. And that's absolutely incredibly smart of you to say, say have it for free. But on the Comeback, we can figure out how we can help each other. Right?

[C]

Yeah. Foxworthy. You know, Jeff and I've been friends since 1986 and we got, we'd always talk comedy back in those days, you know, staying in the condo down there in West Palm Beach, Florida, and him and Vic Henley would come down for Braves games and work the club. And so we would have to hang out for two weeks together. But he always said to us what he learned about stand up is it's show business. And there's two words in show business. There's show, which everybody loves, but then there's the business, which not everybody loves.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And in order to have a good show, you gotta have a, you gotta be good at the business end of it or you're not gonna get as much show.

[A]

That is very smart. That's a very smart. There's two words in there, show and business. And you. You really do. You know, some people are good at the business part, some people aren't good at the business part. Creative types often are known to not be so good at business and the. But that's why there's a whole cottage industry called management and PR that can help you.

[C]

Absolutely. But early on you better be good at the business at least to get up early in the morning and. And work the phones and get some gigs and then, then, then a manager come along, an agent. Then you can really increase some of those duties to them.

[A]

Did you and Jeff. So you've known Jeff since 86. That's.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's a long time. By the way, I live in Atlanta, so. And Jeff, if you live in Atlanta eventually or you. I don't know if he still lives here now, but when I was in my 20s.

[C]

Oh, he does.

[A]

When I was in my 20s and 30s, at least where I was hanging out occasionally you would see him. He would come into restaurants that I worked at and stuff like that. Extraordinarily nice human being. Like just a really down to earth, really nice guy tells no one to go away. Shake Everybody's really good guys guy.

[C]

He's like my adopted older brother, man. He's really helped me a lot and stuff and we have really good talks and yeah, Jeff is the man, man. He still lives there and has his hunting property down there I think in Columbus. And, and, and of course I lived there for three years going to college in Decatur and then hung a lot. Hung around a lot down and, and you know I'm telling the truth because I call it Mayretta.

[A]

That's where. That's close to where I'm at. That's where I grew up. That's. That was my, that hometown. Well I mean I was growing up, born in Chicago, but I lived, I moved when I was 10 years old. So I'm, I'm as close to a native of Atlanta as you're ever going to get.

[C]

Awesome. When you down. Down in May, rather down by the.

[A]

Big chicken that's still there to this day. Did you, you. And, and I mean the blue, blue collar is like the biggest. It was the biggest thing since sliced bread for a minute there. That was amazing. How did that all come together together?

[C]

That was crazy. I was on the road and this goes back to the show business thing we were talking about about business. I was kicking butt out on the road. I was, you know, I was headlining all these comedy clubs and the Blue Collar Comedy tour already had done maybe 15 shows together. Okay, Without. Without me. I'm like the Ringo star of the Blue Collar Comedy Tour. But it was basically just Jeff and his opening act, Ron White and Bill Engvall and his opening act, Craig's Huxley, rest his soul. And I guess I don't know that part of the story because I was not a part of them. But evidently Craig just wasn't blue collar enough, you know? Yeah. And I guess. I don't know, there was something going on there where they were just now. They're just looking for a replacement. I have no. I don't know the story. I really. I just know they were looking for replacement basement. And from what I heard, they just didn't find a blue collar enough and the whole deal. So anyway, I just got home and I had the. My first weekend off in like three months. So I'm out fishing with my buddy Greg out and out in Lake Butler down in Windermere, Florida. Florida. And I just get in the boat. We're there an hour and a half, two hours. It's. What is it? It's Friday afternoon, and my manager calls me and says, hey, I don't know if you want to do this or not, but there's a show in Nashville called the History of Country Comics. It's hosted by Andy Griffith and Jeff. And they got nine comedians. They want. They want 10. So they got five on one show, five on the other, but they need one more. And your name came up. Well, we should get Larry the Cable Guy on the show. And this was before I was famous everywhere. Just comedy clubs at certain places. And. And. And I'm like, ah, when is it? Well, here's the problem. Problem. It's tonight. It's tonight and tomorrow.

[A]

How quick can you find an airport?

[C]

And you're the only. Here's the thing, but here's the good. Here's the cool thing. It's at the grand old. The original mother church of country music, the Grand Ole Opry. And as a kid, a country kid growing up, those were the things that. That really got to me. Yeah, you. The opportunity to work at the mother church of country music, the Grand Alapia. I've never done it. How cool would that be? And I was the only one not getting paid because they didn't have the budget for me. But I already had a good. You know, I've already been doing pretty good, so I had to buy my own plane ticket. But they did put me Up. No, I think they bought my plane ticket so got. They. They'll get my plane ticket and put me up for two nights. But. But I wasn't going to get paid. But my thought was to. That was man, I don't want to do it. But here's the deal. It's the mother church of country music.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And I'll get to see Jeff because Jeff's been so busy. I've not seen Jeff in person now in a couple of years, just talking on the phone. But I haven't seen him in a couple of years and. But the main incentive was the grand oy. And I. Who knows who's going to be in the audience because at the time I was. I was loving it but I was wanting to kind of get out of the comedy clubs, do some theater stuff. But I was really wanting to be in the audience. Somebody see me and maybe George Jones or. Or one of these big Alan, Jess, somebody will take me out on the road.

[A]

Interesting.

[C]

What was in my head. So I went up and I did it and I frickin slayed it it. And that's the first time Jeff had ever saw me do Larry the Cable Guy. And I get a call a couple of weeks later asking me if I wanted to try to be on this blue collar comedy tour. Wow. They would love to audition you if you would like to be a part of it. And I'm like, yeah, absolutely. You kidding me? Travel around with Jeff and the. And the guy guys now. I didn't know Bill at all. I never met Bill. Ron I met a couple of times and I liked Ron a lot.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I liked Bill but I didn't know Bill but I'd heard of Bill and so I said yeah. So I remember my first audition. They had me come up for a weekend and try it out. First night was in Columbia, South Carolina where I probably could have sold 2,000 tickets because I worked the comedy club there and I killed it and. And the other one was somewhere like that to Virginia. Somewhere where I was already on the air.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

And so here's a great story about that. Can I cuss on here?

[A]

Of course, yeah.

[C]

Okay. Well, excuse me for dropping this but it's. That's the story and I can't. So the two people that were the two agents that were there that were in charge of all the booking of blue collar, they were there and they were all watching me to see how well I did. And I'm on stage. Andrew, first of all, there's get or dones all over the place. And so I'm. And I'm a one liner guy and I only had 10 minutes, you know, Ron, I each had 10 minutes.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

And so there was. I'm about 40 jokes into a five minutes. I don't want to stop. I'm boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And they said Ron, who would never really come up and watch the first act, he just kind of hung out. Then was time to go up, he'd go on do his 10 leave. Well, he came up to watch me. And Ron's awesome, man. I the. I only hung out with him maybe three or four times, but Ron was, was freaking awesome. I mean, how do you not like Ron White? And Ron just came up to watch me and just, you know, because he's part of the hiring process and one of the guys does he tell me, he goes, we knew you had the job. When you're five minutes in and you're about 40 jokes in, the crowd is dying. Ron took out a cigarette, lit it and went ah, fuck it. Kind of. But Ron, even I think Ron, I heard an interview one time with him, them or it was somebody that said it was really good for everybody because it kind of, I guess Ron had said he was kind of going through the motions and you know, going up, getting off and kind of lit a fire.

[A]

Lit a fire, kind of lit a.

[C]

Fire to go up. And, and each act made every act better. That was why blue collar was great. Each act made the other act lifted up even higher. We all try. We love. Look, we all loved each other. I still love it. I miss those days. I wish we could all travel again. But it just worked, you know, it just works. So that's. So I left bass fishing. If I wouldn't have done that show at the Ryman, I would have never got that audition and I would have never got on blue collar. So business, show business, business.

[A]

That's what you got to remember. Okay, so I just want to mention one more thing. I was watching the Ryder cup and of course I knew you, you came on. I was watching the Ryder cup the, over the weekend, the golf tournament. And I at least on two occasions heard, you know, somewhat someone takes back they sweat get her done, you know, get. I go holy. You know what? Maybe even more crazy than the fact that you're mater and forever mater and there's rides and you know, you're going. People can hear you in 50 different theme parks is the fact that this tagline, this, these words that you have said, said have now become Part of the lexicon, the fabric of the American culture. People love to scream that in almost any situation. I mean, I've heard it.

[C]

Well, it's good, it's good for anything.

[A]

Yeah, it's good for any occasion.

[C]

Get her done. Whatever you got to do, just get her done. Give 110%. Right.

[A]

Larry the Cable guy has a brand new Amazon prime special and you, we can see that on Amazon. I watched it over the weekend. I thought it was very, very good. I'll put links in the show notes. I to tell you, man, I have enjoyed this immensely. I love hearing you tell stories. I could do it for another hour. So I'm going to request that at some point you come back on. I know you, you know, I know that you, you're very busy and showing up on podcast interviews is probably not on the top of your list.

[C]

I don't mind it. I, I love, I love telling stories. I, I, I, I loved, I love what I do. I love life, I love people. And, and I, I think it's cool that people are actually interested at all in stuff that I do.

[A]

I am a history of comedy buff. I, you know, you obviously are woven into that fabric also. Thank you so much, Dan. I really appreciate this and you're welcome back anytime. Links in the show notes. Make sure if you got small kids, you turn on that. You know, we, we need some people to pay attention to cars so it gets some success and maybe it'll have some legs. That whole cars thing, that who something.

[C]

Are you gonna in the dust, man?

[A]

Are you gonna go back out on tour? Are you gonna do any more live shows?

[C]

Yeah, no. You know, what I do now is, you know, I, I, I did it the right way. Jeff said if you ever have a chance to, don't miss anything your kids do. Don't ever miss anything because you miss some stuff. So I, I, oh, I'm, I started about five or six years ago. I started going down to only about 24 shows a year.

[A]

Smart.

[C]

And that's still 12 weekends.

[A]

Yeah, that's a lot.

[C]

But, but I got to spend a lot of time at home and I was able to do it though, very thankfully because of the Pixar stuff, because I'm always doing stuff there, so. And Jeff and I have our own station on Sirius, so there was other projects that I had where I could stay home. But yeah, I don't travel as much as I used to, you know, I, but I still get to go out 12 weekends a year, play the star for the weekend. Right. Try some jokes out and it's. It's pretty fun. So. So.

[A]

Well, I'll put all those links in the show notes so people can catch up with you. Welcome back anytime. I really appreciate your time today. It's been. This has been awesome. This has one been one of my favorite. I've had hundreds of these conversations. This has been one of my favorite.

[C]

Well, thanks for inviting me. Let me ask you this before we go. What is the names of your kids that like Mater? Hey, this is Mater, like tomato without the tough boy. I tell you what, I'm happier than the tornador in the trailer park that your fans have made. And shoot, I just got done talking to your daddy. We had a dadgum good time. All right, then. If you ever get the radiator Springs, we'll all do us some backward driving. All right. Don't forget, we's best friends. See you later. This is made later.

[A]

I'm gonna be the best dad ever. That's incredible.

[C]

I love doing that. Yeah, play that for him. They'll get a kick out.

[A]

I'm going to cut it right this second. They're going to hear it the second they get home from school. Thank you. I welcome you back. Please come back and tell me more stories you got.

[C]

And thanks for having me. Invite me on. Thank you.

[A]

Of course. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks. I appreciate it.

[C]

I see ya.

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What I don't know is whether or not I'm going to leave a part of that episode in toward the end. You'll know if you know. But if I didn't leave it in because it's got some identifying information about my children which I refuse to put on air there. But before I tried to let Larry go, as I was trying to wrap it up, he said, can I please have your children's names? And then in the voice of mater, he gave them a very special message. It was about a minute long, minute and a half long message to my kids. And I can say there wasn't a dry eye in the house and I am the only one with two eyes in this room right now because I will be, be the best dad ever. Holy. What a nice guy. Wow. I'm taken aback. I really am. It's not often that I'm at a loss for words on this show, but today we'll, today we'll go down as one of those. I mean, what a generous guy. He didn't shy away from talking about cars. As a matter of fact, I think we spent half the episode talking about cars and Pixar and his time there and gracious with his time, gracious with his voice. I understand he's gracious with his money and charities. That's, I'm going to leave it at that. I was going to add a little commentary there, but I'm not going to. I think at the end of the day, everyone on earth wants the same thing. Time, attention, love and shelter. And if we can start there on that common ground, then anything else can be worked out. All the other stuff is just details and details can always be worked out as long as we're doing it respectfully. I really appreciated my conversation with Larry the cable guy. That's that shoots to the top of the list for interviews on this show. Thank you, Daniel. Thank you for coming in. Really appreciate it. Okay. Okay. All the links in the show notes. I'll try and put some more, you know, some of his more popular stuff. The links to and I'm definitely putting the links to the cars movie. So if you don't have Disney plus or you cancel Disney plus or you want Disney plus, you can get it with ads. It's cheap. You can get it with ads. I'll put a link to Cars. I'll put a link to his brand new streaming special. I'll put a link to any show, show dates he's got coming up so you can buy tickets if he comes near you. And yeah, what else is there to say? That was an amazing conversation with a pretty cool human being. So there you go. I'm still taking it back. I'm just taking a bag of just what. What happened just now. Mater from Cars talking to my kids. That's crazy. That's crazy. A lot of crazy has happened because of this show. But that certainly has got to top the list. Got to top the list. Add the commercial break on Instagram, TCB podcast on tick tock and YouTube.com they commercial break for all the episodes including this one the same day. They air here on the audio 212-4333 TCB 212-433-3822 Questions, comments, concerns, concepts, ideas and your free sticker still@tcb podcast.com that is all I can do for today. I will tell you that I love you. I will say best to you. Until next time I will say I do say and I must say goodbye.

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