TCB Infomercial: Michelle Wolf

Summary

The Commercial Break – TCB Infomercial: Michelle Wolf

Release Date: December 2, 2025
Host: Brian Green (with co-hosts and partners)
Guest: Michelle Wolf

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Episode Overview

In this lively and candid Infomercial Tuesday episode, comedian Michelle Wolf joins the TCB crew for a rambling, irreverently personal conversation that covers everything from the chaos of parenthood to her journey from Wall Street to the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, and her take on misinformation and modern comedy. Along the way, Michelle shares insights into her life as a new mom, her new Netflix special ("The Well"), the state of politics and media, and her signature sharp-witted commentary on contemporary culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Life as a New Mom and Creative Professional

• Michelle, with a sleeping baby nearby, describes the rhythms and surprises of newborn parenting, balancing writing, and promoting her new special.
• There’s a recurring theme of sleep—both Michelle and the hosts joke about the odd patterns of infant sleep and adapting as parents.

Notable quote:

"I think I sleep more with a newborn than I think I’ve ever slept in my entire life… It’s always, it’s post that. Like, you don’t have a toddler pulling you out of bed at 4 o’clock in the morning." – Michelle Wolf (13:23)

2. Home Births vs. Hospital Births

• Michelle opens up about having home births for both her children and the reasons why:
  • Preferring freedom of movement, and discomfort with the requirement to be on her back (17:32)
  • Her background in science helping her be less fearful
• Engages with the hosts in comparing hospital stays, the benefits of midwives, and risks versus reality.

Notable quote:

"One of the things I really hate... is that, like, the idea of having to lay on your back to have a baby. I couldn’t have done it... for the moments I was on my back, it was like the most excruciating pain I’ve ever had." – Michelle Wolf (17:34)

3. From Science Major to Wall Street to Comedy

• Michelle details an unconventional trajectory:
  • Studied kinesiology, wanted a career in exercise science
  • Ended up at Bear Stearns just before its collapse (2007-2008), then JP Morgan Chase
  • The banking crash pushed her into improv classes, which led to stand-up (21:44–23:56)
• Reflects on the bleakness and absurdity of witnessing a financial collapse from inside the industry.

Notable quote:

"I was at Bear Stearns, which, a lot of places, you know, the banks were too big to fail. Bear Stearns was just the right size." – Michelle Wolf (21:34)

4. The Infamous 2018 White House Correspondents’ Dinner

• Michelle revisits the “tornado” aftermath of her legendary roast, clarifying that her much-debated “smoky eye” line about Sarah Huckabee Sanders was not a personal attack on looks, but a joke misunderstood by many and spun by the media (24:53–27:36).
• Discusses how the controversy elevated her name, and how, in hindsight, she would’ve “gone harder” given the disproportionate backlash.

Notable quote:

"Not only...I would change my answer slightly, knowing what I know now, I would go harder. … If they were going to get mad at me at the volume that they did… I would have gone much harder to deserve that." – Michelle Wolf (29:31)

• On the media’s role in fanning outrage:

  "The media is probably who I hit the hardest. And that’s why they...you know, came after [me]." – Michelle Wolf (27:04)

5. The Changing Landscape of Political & Social Discourse

• The group laments how what seemed shocking in 2018 now seems tame; the political and information environment has deteriorated further (30:32–31:22).
• Discusses the importance of compassion for people changing views, and the damage of ostracizing former political opponents (32:30–33:59).
• Michelle voices frustration with the spread of misinformation, especially on social media, and the generational divide in recognizing fact from opinion (35:12–36:59).

Notable quote:

"I think one of the biggest problems we have right now... is that people just don’t believe facts. And people often present things that aren’t factual as facts." – Michelle Wolf (35:12)

• They riff on AI, “liquid 4chan,” and the general absurdity of modern news, with hosts sharing stories of families divided by alternative realities and misinformation.

6. Career, Comedy Special, and the Road Ahead

• Michelle celebrates her special’s early success, jokes about being outperformed by “Is It Cake?” on Netflix (39:43) and reveals another special is already taped (41:51).
• Describes her focus shifting toward writing a new show, prioritizing time at home with family over touring (42:16).
• Honest talk with the hosts about work-life balance, the realities of touring with kids, and making intentional choices as a parent.

7. Parenting in the Age of Phones and Screens

• The panel commiserates on the failed intention to keep kids off screens, admitting that sometimes “Disney Plus” is the solution.
• Michelle and the hosts recall their own childhood TV-watching habits and joke about the ironies of modern parenting (44:30–46:55).

Notable quote:

"I get proud of both myself and my parenting when I’m just watching a television." – Michelle Wolf (45:43)

8. Comedy Style & Social Media

• Praise for Michelle’s joke-writing: efficient, sharp, and not drawn out—she responds with self-deprecating humor about not being a great storyteller (47:05–47:52).

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On Wall Street and Bear Stearns:
  “I was at Bear Stearns, which, a lot of places, you know, the banks were too big to fail. Bear Stearns was just the right size.” – Michelle Wolf (21:34)

• On being misunderstood at the Correspondents’ Dinner:
  “Everyone was taking that joke, like, totally... to say that I called her ugly. And listen, if I’m gonna call someone ugly, I’ll just say it. Make some makeup analogy. Right? Is it a compliment?” – Michelle Wolf (25:13)

• On political division and welcome back:
  “We’re going to have to welcome a lot of people back in. Back in from the cold. Right. And the wrong way to do it is to slam the door and scream and yell…” – Co-host (33:03)

• On facts in the age of misinformation:
  “I think one of the biggest problems we have right now... is that people just don’t believe facts.” – Michelle Wolf (35:12)

• On “Is It Cake?” outpacing her Netflix special:
  “It did make it in the top ten for a minute. It was...Number eight at right behind Is it Cake? Always a pleasure to be watched slightly more than people guessing if it is in fact cake.” – Michelle Wolf (39:43)

• On parenting and screen time:
  “I get proud of both myself and my parenting when I’m just watching a television.” – Michelle Wolf (45:43)

• Final thoughts on her comedy style:
  “I’m also just not a great storyteller, you know? Like, some people are really good at stories... I’ll ram... I can’t.” – Michelle Wolf (47:42)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:00–02:00 – Opening ads and show intro
• 02:08–02:55 – Bryan sums up Michelle’s biography
• 11:06 – Michelle joins, discussions about parenting and newborns
• 16:36–18:32 – Home birth vs hospital birth
• 21:44–23:56 – Wall Street career and collapse, pivot to comedy
• 24:53–27:36 – White House Correspondents’ Dinner, media backlash
• 30:32–33:59 – How political discourse has devolved, welcoming people “back from the cold”
• 35:12–36:59 – Misinformation and generational media divides
• 39:43 – Netflix special and competing with “Is It Cake?”
• 41:51–42:31 – Second special taped, plans for the future
• 44:30–46:13 – Parenting, screen time, and generational changes
• 47:05–47:52 – Michelle’s joke-writing style
• 49:24– End – Closing, playful banter about "Is It Cake?", goodbyes

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Memorable Closing Moments

• The “Is It Cake?” Riff:
  The group riffs on the hit Netflix show, repeatedly calling for a simpler solution: just give people cake, don’t make them guess.

  "Just give me cake or don’t give me cake. You give me a shoe and it’s not cake, I’m gonna be serious." – Michelle Wolf (49:11)

• Camaraderie and Mutual Respect:
  The hosts heap praise on Michelle’s comedy and her social media presence, expressing hope she’ll return soon.

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Tone & Language

• The episode is marked by quick-witted, self-deprecating humor, candid personal stories, and a warm, conversational, “hang out” vibe.
• Both Michelle and the hosts don’t shy from biting social commentary, but it’s mixed with a generous dose of parental camaraderie and self-awareness.

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Summary Takeaways

Listeners are treated to a fast-moving, honest, and funny conversation that threads together the big and small: how to raise kids in a chaotic world, what it’s like to face a public political storm, the absurdity of modern media, and the enduring importance of comedy that calls out everyone equally. Michelle’s blend of sharp insight and approachable warmth shines throughout, making the episode a must-listen for comedy fans and anyone navigating parenting, politics, or just modern life.

Michelle Wolf’s special "The Well" is now streaming on Netflix.

Transcript

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[Brian Green]

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[Michelle Wolf]

You know, people that are like older, like in their like, you know, 60s have been working. Yeah. 50s and 60s have been working at the company like 20 and 30 years. And it was just, it was a very depressing time.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

I can all hear that.

[Michelle Wolf]

Not to mention, you know, society was also on the verge of bankruptcy collapse. Yeah. And you know, but all the like, you know, the big wigs, all the banks were like. But I mean it was an accident. Can't you see money back?

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

So sorry what happened?

[Michelle Wolf]

I thought we were friends, but we didn't know.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah, I mean they warned us, but we didn't know. I mean there Was that one guy that made a billion dollars betting on our failure.

[Michelle Wolf]

But we had no idea. And we set ourselves up for success, but we didn't know.

[Brian Green]

The next episode of the commercial break starts now. The 30th of morning. Oh, yeah, cats and kittens. Welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. I'm here by myself to introduce a TCB infomercial Tuesday with a very funny special guest, Michelle Wolf. Just to you know, let's call this an aper te after your Thanksgiving holiday. And as is the tradition here at the commercial break after any Thanksgiving holiday, I have been in my bed for the last five days with some kind of terrible stomach virus, foodborne illness, monovirus, Covid flu. I don't know what the hell I have. You know, I get this every Thanksgiving after every Thanksgiving. This happens to me almost six years running, Five years running at least, maybe six if we count the first year I've had salmonella. I've had, let's see, norovirus went around the house. I had Covid one time last year. Everyone was throwing up and it happened again this year. Just happened again this year. I don't know, something about Thanksgiving rubs me the wrong way. I love it. It's my favorite holiday. And then I end up five days in the bed. Who knows? But anyway, Chrissy's not here. I'm keeping her out of the, as I would call it, peach tree dish that is my house right now. So I'm doing this intro and outro to Michelle Wolf by myself. Michelle re recorded right before the holiday. If you don't know Michelle Wolf, you should go ahead and give her a goo, as the kids would say. Give her a goo because she's a very, very funny lady. Very funny human, I'll put it that way. She worked at Bear Stearns from 2007 to 2008 as Bear Stearns went directly out of business, the business that was too big to fail, that failed. She then went on to work for JP Morgan Chase before deciding there were better pursuits in life. And she went on to improv comedy. Then hired by, I mean, some other things happened, but then hired by the Daily show with Trevor Noah, where people started to take note. But it was the 2018 correspondence dinner at the White House that really set the world aflame about Michelle. Now, this has been a long time, like seven years ago. So I'm not going to get all into it with Michelle because she's already answered every question about this. But she went right after the Democrats, the Republicans, Trump and Sarah Huckabee Sanders, which caused her quite the kerfuffle in a good way and a bad way. As they say, no press is bad press. And I have to agree because she, as she has said on interviews before, and she'll probably tell us here when I ask her about it. She wouldn't change a goddamn thing. Michelle has just had a little one, so we're gonna give her some grace because she's probably has a little bit of mom brain. I'm. I'm like, I don't know how many children I am I in. Nine, 13, something like that. I'm nine or 13 children in. I'm at least three years from the last one and I still have dad brain. I don't think that goes away, actually. I think I'm just. This is. This is my fate. My fate is just to be forgetful, stumble around the house and eat late night as much as possible until I explode, literally. Or until I get another. Until I get another bout of salmonella that causes me to lose £20. The good news about the Thanksgiving stomach drama, it always resets my weight. So there you go. Not doing it on purpose. Not saying you should do it on purpose, but you know, it's good if you can get it and you want to lose a couple pounds. Just find me. I'll give you some norovirus. Okay, let's do this. Everyone calm down. Links are in the show notes as they always are. Michelle's special is available currently. You should go watch it and we'll ask her about any upcoming live dates that she has. Chrissy and I will return this Thursday to a live audience on Twitch and YouTube. And Kick, you can go ahead and follow us at the commercial break on Instagram. We will notify you when we go live. People have been asking about the YouTube videos. Those are now under the live section because we are actually going to be putting those out as soon as they are broadcast. So we're recording them and they are being broadcast live at the same time, if that makes sense. Recording for the podcast to be broadcast later on the RSS feed. And if you tune in at that time, you'll be seeing it live. You can interact with us, chat with us, and then soon you'll be able to jump in the video chat. Also, lots of changes coming to tcb. Stay tuned. Season seven. Are we on season seven? Holy shit. Season seven is gonna be a lot different than any of the previous seasons, so stay tuned. But now let's all focus our attention, please. Class, settle down, settle down. Put your pencils and erasers away because Michelle Wolf is coming up and she is just good enough to deserve to demand our attention. Okay, I'm gonna go drink some fluids and get some Sprite and Saltines. You listen to Michelle Wolf, Chrissy and I babble on. We'll be right back.

[Rachel]

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[Michelle Wolf]

Thanks for having me. It's very. I feel like you guys are much more quiet with your voice than I am the sleeping baby right here. I gotta get this baby acquainted with my voice, you know?

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

That's right.

[Michelle Wolf]

They gotta know how to sleep through this, huh?

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

We do a podcast in our house and all three of my children, I mean, the first one was already born, but the other two were born while we were doing the podcast. So they are well acquainted with all the yelling and hijinks and shenanigans. Is this. Is. Is this one an easy sleeper? Is he easy?

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah, he's a big sleeper. Loves sleeping.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Oh, that's nice.

[Michelle Wolf]

Seems like an alarming amount during the day.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

He's like a cat.

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah. I'm sort of like, are you gonna sleep tonight? Like, what's happening here? Yeah. Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

That's the. This is the best time, though. My opinion, I mean, they're all the best times if you just pay attention and focus a little bit, you know, they're all the best. You can find the joy in the moments. At least so far, I only that are 7 or below. So when they get to 13, I'll reconsider my opinion.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah, change your mind.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

But when they don't crawl and they don't talk back and all you have to do is just feed them and then let them sleep and occasionally change a diaper, it's such a joy because they really do need you so much. They're just like little cuddle bugs.

[Michelle Wolf]

I love this. This newborn phase is like. I think I took it for granted the last time because I was like, oh, it's just like eating and sleeping and changing, you know? Like, I watch like, the last time I watched every TV show that I had never watched before because there's really nothing else to do. You know, you're at home, you don't have another child to take care of. When it's your first one and then the second one comes along and you're like, I would. You know, it's just, it's.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

That's joy.

[Michelle Wolf]

The newborn. For me, the newborn part is the easiest.

[Brian Green]

Totally agree.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

It's the newborn glow.

[Michelle Wolf]

I don't know why they sell us this complete lie that they're like, oh, you first have a baby, you're never gonna sleep. And I'm like, I sleep more with a newborn than I think I've ever slept in my entire life. It's always, it's post that. Like, you don't have a toddler pulling you out of bed at 4 o' clock in the morning.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

You know, like, miserable. Yes. That's when they start walking and then.

[Michelle Wolf]

You have all the time and they're like, they're like, this way, this way. And I'm like, why? What are we doing?

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Daddy play with me. Daddy playing with me. Oh, come on, man. Daddy's got to do just a little bit of work, I. E. Take a nap in my office and pretend like I'm working. Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

Why do they make like a toddler Nespresso machine? So they can use it not for them to drink, but for them to use so that when they do wake me up at 4 in the morning, they can come in with a little.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

I'm teaching my kid how to drive his little, you know, his little motorized car to Starbucks for me. Give me an iced coffee, take daddy's credit card, and if it doesn't work, just smile at them and say, sorry, pay you later. It's what I do. So when you. I imagine that you're taking like a little bit of respite for yourself right now, besides the special being out and you having to do a million call in podcasts or whatever you're doing. I would imagine that you're taking a little bit of a respite right now. Do you take, like, a mama break and just get acclimated?

[Michelle Wolf]

You know, I haven't, to be honest. I mean, like, I'm not sure stand up at the moment, but I'm like, you know, there's some things I'm writing and trying to. To make, so, you know, that's kind of what I've been doing. And then promoing a special, which, like.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

People have to remind me, like, 17 times when I have things because my brain is on, like, 4% already. Like, and I'm in, like, a different time zone. And I'm like, but what time is it? My time? You know.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

I think the best vacation that I ever had. My personal opinion, and I think Astrid might. Her. I think she would agree with me at least two of the times is like, that three or four days in the hospital after the baby is born, and you have the nurses that'll take the baby for. I don't know if you have the same experience, but in our hospital, which is the baby factory of the United States of America, they will take your baby. And they, like, if you say, I need a break, they'll take your baby. So for the second two kids, we were just like, take the baby, you know? Yeah, we need a break the whole time. Can you give us four days of vacation?

[Michelle Wolf]

I remember one of my friends, she said specifically when she was having her second baby, she was like, I'm really looking forward to the time in the hospital.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

She was like, because I won't have. I have the baby, and then I'll just won't have either of the kids for, like, periods of time. But I. I thwarted that plan by having a home birth. So I didn't. I just, you know, the midwife came, and luckily they clean up. That is, you know. Yeah, that's key.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Can I ask you a personal question? Is it a little bit scary having a home birth after you had a hospital birth, or do you feel like.

[Michelle Wolf]

No, I had. I had a home birth for both of you.

[Brian Green]

Did. Oh, so you don't know.

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah, I had a home birth for both of them. I don't know. I mean, like, I'm a very kind of go with the flow person. And I. I was a. You know, I was a science major. I wanted to go into medicine. So, like, I'm, you know, I. I'm not super.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

I don't know, Fussy about little things. Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

Like, I'm like, I. I don't mind, like, blood, you know, like, when I get my blood taken, I, like, look at it, you know, Like, I'm not, like. But I. And I also know that if there was anything bad that happened, I'm close enough to a hospital. Yeah. You know, it's not. I'm not super far away from anything, so. Yeah, I was just. I don't know.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

You're not one of these birds down by the road?

[Rachel]

I do.

[Michelle Wolf]

One of the things I really hate, and this is just me personally, is that, like, the idea of having to lay on your back to have a baby. I couldn't have done it because, like, I. For both of mine, I was, like, kind of, like somewhat vertical, like, either on my knees or, like, standing a little bit. And like, I. For the moments I was on my back, it was like, the most excruciating pain I've ever had.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Really.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Wow.

[Michelle Wolf]

So I was like. Especially during the first one, I was like, I'm so glad I'm at home so I can kind of be in the position I want to be in without being like, like, attached to all.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

I didn't even think about, you know, machines and things like that, so for me, it worked out well. I know it's not for everybody, but, you know, I also think they scare people. I'll be honest. I think they. They scare people with birth where they're like, well, you know, your baby might die. And you're like, well, of course I'm good.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

You know, like, yeah, of course I need to go to the hospital.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Why wouldn't I want the doctor around?

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

You know, I think everybody who's. Anybody who has children or who knows people have children, there is a horror story somewhere.

[Brian Green]

Our first.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Our first was, I'm. I. I think the universe. Every day that we were in a hospital setting, we had discussed.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah, you guys had about.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

We had a midwife, like, we hired a midwife to come in and. And help make it a little bit more organic. But think, you know, just whatever the universe, circumstances put us in the right place at the right time to make sure everybody was okay. But, you know, the. You do make a point is that it's in. In a clinical setting, everything becomes very clinical and a little. We in a little sterile. Right. And it's a birth. It's like, there's a little dude or a little lady coming into this world. You. If that what makes you feel comfortable. And it's like, organic. I think it's perfectly. And I Never thought about laying down and how much that might hurt.

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Rubbing against your spine. Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

You know, you have to be surrounded by, like, responsible people who are like, no. You know what to do if something.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

You know, like, you can't just, like. And I've also heard the other side of it where people are like, you know, like, they have like a horror story about, like, they were like, yeah. And then I was at home and this happened and they didn't get me to that. Like, I almost didn't make it to the hospital in time. And it's like, well, then you had a, you didn't have a good midwife.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

You know, like.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah, the midwife kind of failed you.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah. Because like, you, you, you, you need someone who's on top of it. You need someone who, like, knows you, knows the situation, you know, has done it plenty of times, you know, So I think there's, there's. I don't know. But for me, it was great. I really, I really enjoyed it. Missed out on that sweet, sweet afterbirth.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah, that's thing to give you.

[Brian Green]

All.

[Michelle Wolf]

That food is terrible.

[Brian Green]

But the hotel rooms are nice.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

I mean, for a hospital. Yeah, it's basically a hotel room. That's what it is. I, You. When you studied science but didn't, did you work on Wall street for a while?

[Michelle Wolf]

I did. I. I have not done anything that would have led me to comedy.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

That's what I'm wondering.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

How did you make the transition?

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah, I was a science major. I wouldn't, I didn't even do anything in college that would have led me to Wall Street. Like, this is like, I don't. Like, I studied, I studied kinesiology. I wanted to go into, like, exercise physiology, some sort of exercise science.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

So naturally you traded options.

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah, so naturally I got into, you know, mutual funds and separately managed accounts in 2007, which. Great time to.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Oh, wow, Perfect time.

[Michelle Wolf]

Get into the banking industry.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yes.

[Michelle Wolf]

And.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

The banking industry did just fine. We helped them out.

[Michelle Wolf]

That's true, actually. Well, here's the thing. I was at Bear Stearns, which a lot of places, you know, the banks were too big to fail. Bear Stearns was just the right size.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Just the right size.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

You went to Bear Stearns in 2007, so you're out of a job in 2008.

[Michelle Wolf]

Watched it collapse in 2008. I. Because I was like, young, cheap labor, you know, Like, I, I stayed on and got to watch so many people get fired and like, you know, people that are like, older, like in their like, you know, 60s have been working. Yeah. 50s and 60th. I've been working at the company like 20 and 30 years and it was just, it was a very depressing time. Not to mention, you know, society was also on the verge of bankruptcy collapse. Yeah. And you know, but all the like, you know, the big wigs, all the banks were like. But I mean, it was an accident. Can't you just. Money back.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

So sorry. What happened?

[Michelle Wolf]

I thought we were friends, but we didn't know.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah, I mean they warned us, but we didn't know. I mean there was that one guy that made a billion dollars.

[Brian Green]

Our failure.

[Michelle Wolf]

But we had no idea planned and we set ourselves up for success. But we didn't know. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

How could we know a guy that makes $12,000 a year can't, can't afford a million dollar house. How were we supposed to know the.

[Brian Green]

Guy wasn't going to pay his mortgage?

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah. So what, so is that like, did.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

You find comedy in the tragedy?

[Michelle Wolf]

Misery amidst the banks collapsing? I had gone to a taping of Saturday Night Live just to watch because I was a big fan of the show and I was like, how do people do this? How do you get on a show like this? And I looked up most of the people on the show and they had all started in improv. So I just signed up for an improv class. And then that was in March of 2008. The banks are collapsing. I'm doing improv after work and I just, I wanted to do more and more of that, so I kept doing improv. I kept working at the bank during the day. Eventually, instead of, you know, Bear Stearns, I was working for JP Morgan and then doing as much improv as I could and then eventually switched to stand up and, and away you went.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Here you are.

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

And then you, we were reminded that you had the, the. I mean it. There's like, obviously you've been doing this for a long time and there are a lot of, a lot of hard work and a lot of ups and downs, I'm sure. But you had a show on Netflix called the Break. Then we just put the commercial in the middle and stole.

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah, very nice.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah, we thought it was such a great name. We said. But we can't just rip it off directly from Michelle. You had the wonderfully. I mean, that 2018 at the correspondence dinner. I think that was. That's amazing because it's a moment. I, I know you've said this a million times and I don't want to Rehash it, because you have done this on every interview ever. But in that moment, like, after. Like the day after the White House correspondence dinner, I know you've said, I wouldn't change a word. Good for you. I wouldn't have. I would have felt the same way. But do you feel like you're in a little bit of a tornado in that moment?

[Michelle Wolf]

You know what was the most confusing thing is that people were like. Like, okay. I said, you know, she burns facts and use the ash to create a perfect smoky eye about Sarah. About. Yeah. And I had an interview the next morning on NPR with Terry Gross.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Oh, I love.

[Michelle Wolf]

Maybe not the next morning. The. The Monday morning after. So it happened on a Saturday night. And on that. That Monday morning, had an interview with Terry Gross. And everyone was taking that joke, like, totally. Like, to say that I called her ugly. And listen, if I'm gonna call someone ugly, I'll just say it. Make some makeup analogy. Right? Is it a compliment? But the mo. One of the most confusing things, because everyone was so mad about it. And I was like, what are they even. How are they even taking that negatively?

[Brian Green]

Right.

[Michelle Wolf]

And then Terry Gross was like, so what is a smokey eye? And I was, like, daring. You gotta take a step out of NPR for, like, five seconds. Let's get rid of some of the flannels and put down some of your tote bags and just pick up one. One glamour. One copy of Vogue. Yeah. You know, just flip through it. I know. I know you read all the classics. You probably got a bunch of Jane Austen in your house. But for, like, five seconds, can you just flip through a Vogue and get a little bit on the zeitgeist?

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

You know, like, it's so on brand for Terry Gr. To go, what is a smokey eye? She wants to dig into what she wants.

[Michelle Wolf]

I was like, how do you not.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

How do you not know? Well, I think that, to be honest with you, I think of that whole, I guess, performance, whatever you would call it that sad. You know, the. The speech, whatever it was roast. I think that was like, you went after every. I mean, you. You had fun with everybody. It wasn't like you just pointed out Sarah Huckabee Sanders. It just happened. I think it happened to be the punchline. The punchline that landed. The whole thing was hilarious. You went after Trump and Democrats and everybody.

[Michelle Wolf]

Well, not to mention Sarah Huckabee Sanders was the, like, representative from the administration that was there.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

The press secretary.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Michelle Wolf]

It would have been weird not to acknowledge her, you know, yeah, yeah, exactly. But I did, I went after everybody. I went after the right, the left, the media. I mean, the media is, is probably who I hit the hardest. And that's why they, you know, came after you. Turned it around a bit.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

But, yeah, and yeah, I don't, I, I really, I, I get so annoyed when, like, because it's mostly people who have never actually watched it that they're like, and they just like, heard like a snippet on Fox News or something.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

Where they were like, only make fun of Trump. And I'm like, like, I am so sick of making fun of Trump. Like, please give me more people to make fun of.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah, yeah, he's an easy target.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

He is the lowest hanging.

[Michelle Wolf]

Sometimes I'm like, I don't even want to, like, I would love to make fun of everyone else before Trump because it's just I'm so like, and this was back then, you know, like, this was in the first term when I was like, sick of, sick of Trump jokes. You know, like, I, I, I firmly believe the entire government is bad. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Twads who, who are grown up children who have too much money, too much power and too little conviction for anything. They say the right things, they do the wrong things every single time. And by the way, I will share with the audience and, and with you that I, I don't see it that way. I don't think you just bash Trump. I think you are an equal opportunity basher. If you see some, it seems like you call it out, you're welcome.

[Michelle Wolf]

There's very few people that I enjoy.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

One of them is on your lap right now.

[Michelle Wolf]

I mean, we'll see. For now.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah, yeah, he's new.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

But in that moment, you know, you're, it's like that I've, I was reading about it when, just like hearkening back to that time and everybody heard about this is before COVID This is Trump 1.1. But then you become like kind of a household name. So, so jokes on that, Jokes on them, I guess, because it really did you a, a service in the sense that I, I imagine it kind of accelerated a career arc for you and. Yeah, who cares? So who cares? You.

[Brian Green]

You. Job done.

[Michelle Wolf]

I, knowing what I know now, not only like, you know, I would change my answer slightly, knowing what I know now, I would go harder. You know, like, I felt like I was being, you know, somewhat restrained and, you know, if they were going to get mad at me, first of all, they were going to get mad at me at the volume that they did, you know, I would have gotten much harder to, like, deserve that, you know, like, you're going to, like, like, call me all these, like, terrible names, like, well, then, like, let me do, like, the mean stuff, you know.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Right, exactly. You would have redone.

[Michelle Wolf]

But also, like, knowing, you know, what the position society's in now, I would have just. I would have been much, like, more direct.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

And much more, like, searing and, you know, to, I don't know, just be like, people. Can you see it now? Like, can you see it now?

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

Before we fall into this abyss, this beautiful, beautiful.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

It's beautiful.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Beautiful, big Bitcoin.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah, Bitcoin. And if you think about it, it's bitcoin. The reality is, six years later, the things that we fussed about back then, just think about this, seem tame. Six, seven years later, those things now seem tame to us because we have been so beat, brow beaten by the insanity, the everyday insanity of the political climate, just like pop, pop culture, all of it in general, that what you said then probably wouldn't even be a blip on the radar now.

[Michelle Wolf]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Green]

Number one.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

And number two, it's gone so much further off the rails that I don't. It doesn't. Not recognizable. 2018, 2025 are not even recognizable.

[Michelle Wolf]

I mean, I would have had to be, like, surrounded by my own personal security, you know. Yes, I would. I would have been like, I mean, there's no way they're ever gonna do this, you know, at least. Why Trump's president. No, I thought about that for the next. I don't know. Yeah. 10 years.

[Sponsor Voice]

Yeah, exactly.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

However long.

[Michelle Wolf]

26 years alive. I don't know.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Green]

What? Did you see that?

[Michelle Wolf]

Because. Yeah, you, you. I, I just feel like. And this was kind of my thing. I. Everyone there's, you know, often there's a certain, certain comic, type of comic who's always like, Trump's gonna make sure there's no more censorship. And I'm like, that's not, that's not how it works. Exactly the opposite of what he's gonna do. Yes.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Well, I think some of those comics are now on their back heel saying, well, this is not what I voted for. And okay, you know, it is what you voted for. It is what you voted for. It is what you voted for. My opinion in the moment right now is, well, keep speaking up against it and we'll sort it out later. But it is what you voted for.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You helped other people vote.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

That's right. We'll say, I told you so later.

[Michelle Wolf]

When they actually join it, you know, like, it's like, yes. Like, okay, like, yeah, maybe you should have been in earlier. But, like, you're here now. Let's go. You know, like, the whole, like. Like, getting. And it happens so much with so many different issues, and people are like, well, you should have spoken up, you know, years ago. And it's like, they're here now. Okay.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah, exactly.

[Michelle Wolf]

Let's. We can dissect the whole thing at a calmer period of time, you know.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Like the warm embrace of sanity. We'll have you here. There was this article that I read years ago, and I mean, years ago and now I think about it a lot. About. We're going to have to welcome a lot of people back in. Back in from the cold. Right. And the wrong way to do it is to slam the door.

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

And scream and yell like, it's not gonna. That's. It's. That's not gonna. It's not gonna accelerate some return back to normalcy, whatever that means. Whenever it means it.

[Brian Green]

I mean.

[Michelle Wolf]

I mean, you can even see it now. You can see people that were, like, somewhat ostracized, and then it, like, it really hardened them into, like, you know, like. Like almost like a villain. And you're like, that's not what we want. Right. Like, we want people to, like. We want people to be like, hey, I. I wasn't thinking straight. I really. Up.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

And then you'd be like, all right.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah, I was brainwashed.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

I drank too much.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Come out of your house.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

I drank too much. Liquid 4chan was on my phone.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Like, right?

[Michelle Wolf]

Well, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

You shouldn't have done that.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

And I mean, you think about it, it's like family members against family members. And, you know, there's this podcast that I absolutely adore. And if you can swallow any more of the political. It's a guy and a girl, like brother and sister. And every episode is them talking to their now extraordinarily hardcore extreme right parents who are in their 60s and 70s. And each episode, they try and work it out. Right. They try and, like, figure it out. And it is a show with the parents. The whole point of the thing is like, let's talk about. Yeah, how did you get here? What are you thinking about? And the dad is just way off the rails. I don't think he's ever coming in. But the mom, you can see, is kind of, like, sometimes, like, gets it. She's like, yeah, that doesn't make much sense. And the kids are just like, trying to present facts and be pragmatic and caring and empathetic. And it's really, it's like watching a family unwind or try to wind back up in real time. It's a fascinating. My opinion, fascinating, probably what's happening around the world.

[Michelle Wolf]

It's very interesting. It's very interesting. And, you know, I like that the kids are. Their kids are trying to do that. I think one of the biggest problems we have right now, and I don't know how it's solved, is that people just don't believe facts.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Right, right.

[Michelle Wolf]

And people often present things that aren't factual as facts. So, like there's, you know, I've seen plenty of interviews with, like, older people who are like, well, you know, and they'll say something crazy like, you know.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah. Swirling around Facebook.

[Michelle Wolf]

Venezuelans taking over Idaho. Yeah, yeah. That's not happening. They're like, it is happening.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Well, eating the, what was it?

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Eating the cats? Eating the dogs.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Dogs, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Down in Florida. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

It's like, it's just all ridiculous.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

And you're so right about this. The but. And I think that's part of how we got here is that there's two different universes of information being presented. And it's seems like a whole bunch of people just got easily convinced that, yeah, facts aren't facts.

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah. And, you know, people want to believe what they want to believe, and there's so much information out there and there's no way to know. Like, and, you know, like, news organizations, a lot of, like, news media, traditional news media, they started having opinion people on their shows. Right. But when you turn on even, you know, you turn on CNN and there's someone behind a desk saying something like, there's nothing on the screen that says this is their opinion. You know, like.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

And I. Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

Sounds. You'd think most people would be able to discern facts from opinion, but very clear that that's not the case.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Right. Especially. Especially the older generation. I think they grew up more with their being actual every night. Dan Rather telling you.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Walter Cronkite. Yeah.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

So then it just gets moved to a Fox News or even a cnn. I mean, they both, both, you know, swing in the opposite directions.

[Michelle Wolf]

But.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

And then Facebook and, you know, all this stuff. And you get these folks, Betty at church. Yeah, Betty at church. The furries are screwing in the bell tower.

[Michelle Wolf]

And I've even found myself recently, like, you know, like, I'll see posts and stuff online and I'll be like, what? And then I'll send it to a friend. And they're like, this one's not that true. And I was like, oh, okay, okay. I should check.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

You gotta try now with AI too. And pictures, looking like pictures.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

You know, all the misinformation with that too.

[Michelle Wolf]

Well, I mean, more than anything that we could have an A toggle on like Instagram or whatever it is, it's just like, don't show me any AI.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yes, yes.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Well, when you post stuff, it's. When you post stuff it says, is any of this created by AI? Help us identify AI. But your Instagram you should be able to identify. You helped create it. You should be able to identify it.

[Michelle Wolf]

Don't you know your own family?

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Right?

[Michelle Wolf]

Yes, exactly.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

You don't know what your kind looks like. And I mean the other thing, the other thing is there should, I mean, like Europe is doing. There should be some law that your personal image, likeness and voice is yours, unique to you. You are allowed to control it. You can sue people who don't, you know, follow this, you know your rules for however you want that used. And also there are identifying pieces of code that are put into images and video that allow people to understand whether or not it's AI. But here we're not doing that. Because Bitcoin. Yeah, yeah. Because we all want to make a trillion dollars.

[Michelle Wolf]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Because the AI bubble is holding up the economy right now.

[Michelle Wolf]

What a sturdy, sturdy arm to be held by.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

You worked on Wall street, you know, I mean, we're a one legged table right now.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

It's not even like we knew, but we didn't know.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

Oh, the fake bubble burst. Wow, I'm so surprised.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah, the, the AI AI bubble burst. How artificially intelligent. How is this special doing the.

[Brian Green]

Well.

[Michelle Wolf]

I mean, do they give you.

[Brian Green]

Any of that information?

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Do they say, they call you up and they say, hey, Michelle, good job. We're, we're really super jazzed about the numbers.

[Michelle Wolf]

They normally give me some sort of information a couple weeks out. I do know the day after it was released, it was in, it did make it in the top ten for a minute. It was. Congratulations, Number eight at right behind. Is it cake? Always a pleasure to be watched slightly more than people guessing if it is in fact cake.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

You know who's watching this cake? My kids. That's who's driving it to number one. They love that show. Over and over again, same episode.

[Michelle Wolf]

So, you know, must have done at least early on, must have done well enough to make the time. Top 10. Which is always lovely. And then. Yeah, I mean, I'm getting. Continuing to get nice comments and followers, so. So we'll see.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

You got a call from your agent saying you got to do the commercial break. Sorry, you gotta do the commercial break. It's just like. It's that bad? It might be. Let's just get on the commercial break. We'll figure it out later.

[Michelle Wolf]

Well, in all fairness, I did tape this in 2023, and I like the. From the time I said, okay, yes, let's do it. I think it was like, you know, mid. You know, mid September, and then we got it out, you know, mid October. So wasn't a lot of planning time on my part, which is pretty standard for me.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Where did you tape it?

[Michelle Wolf]

I taped it at Lincoln Theater in Washington, DC.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

It's a great little theater. And yeah, I have another one that I taped in November of 2024.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

So wait, if I'm doing my math correct, were you pregnant when you were doing the second one? No, no, no, no.

[Michelle Wolf]

The first one.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Not.

[Michelle Wolf]

The first one was post first baby, and the second one was pre second baby.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

All right.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

So you have another one in the can ready to go?

[Michelle Wolf]

I do, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Look at you.

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah, it's.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

We got to get more like Michelle.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

I was gonna say we need more in the game.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

We need more in the can. We need to get to stop riding the rail. But unlike Michelle, Netflix is not, you know, Netflix ain't calling for us. And then what do you. What is your intention? Are you going to go back out on the road with new material?

[Michelle Wolf]

I really. There's a show I want to write, so, you know, I'm in the midst of trying to pitch that, and hopefully I'll get to. Because I would love. I would really love to stay home and write for a little bit.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

As you can imagine, touring with two young people is not. It's not the vacation I'm looking for at the end.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

It's part of the reason why I think we are reluctant a lot of times to do live shows in any kind of string is because I don't want to be away from my family. And I. And it's hard to take them along. Like, first of all, we would barely make any money anyway. Then you bring kids and it's all over. Right now. You're just paying for them to have a vacation.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

But then it's. It doesn't for me at least. I really want time with my children, and I want that not uninterrupted because I like to take time away from them, but you know what I'm saying, Concentrate. Yes, Concentrate a few minutes a day on my children and make sure that they feel. They feel loved. Are you in New York?

[Michelle Wolf]

I mean, it's nice to check in with your kids once a day.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

I agree. Once.

[Michelle Wolf]

You know, like, just for five minutes.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

I read this thing one time, this, like, psychologist that I follow on Instagram, this child psychologist, and she said, if you have multiple children, if you give them 10 to 15 minutes of dedicated time, no phone, no TV, no nothing, just 10 to 15 minutes. This is. You know, this is what. This is your time. Then you are filling up their cup. And I thought to myself, that sounds really easy. But Now I have three children, and that's really hard to get 15 minutes by our. By itself.

[Michelle Wolf]

I must have read the same thing, because I saw that, and I'm like, okay, yeah. Like, if I can, yeah, I can do that. I like to think back on my day, and I'm like, yeah, I think. I think I played with her for 10 to 15 minutes, you know.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

I think so. The phone is the hardest. Putting the phone down, in my opinion, is the hardest thing. And it's something that you just have to remember, and then pretty soon they want your phone, and then that's. The game's all over. How old is the. The first one. How old is your daughter?

[Michelle Wolf]

Almost three.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Almost three. Is she starting to grab at the phone? Grab at the iPad?

[Michelle Wolf]

I mean, she's been on the phone for. I was traveling with her on tour from when she was about six months. So as soon as I needed it on a plane. Yeah, it was. I was like, well, we're not. This is.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

This has to happen. Yeah, this has to happen.

[Michelle Wolf]

It's like, I don't. I. I know there's plenty of parents that are like, no screen. No screen. I'm like, you don't travel. Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Or take restaurants.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, they take them to restaurants.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Or they don't parent. They don't understand what parenting is. They're like weird people on TLC who don't, you know, know the kids don't know who Justin Bieber is. Do you know what I'm saying? They're like, just weird children who can't get along in society now that they're all wilding out with, you know, in their own apartments. The reality is Astrid and I said the same thing. We're not going to. I. When I remember you guys, when we first met, we were traveling, we would see kids, and they'd have their own iPad, and they'd be pressing it, or they'd be at the dinner table, and we'd just shake our head in condemnation, like, little judgmental. We'd be like, nope, never going to be us. We're never letting our kids be on there. And the second the first one was.

[Brian Green]

Born, we almost handed him the phone.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Instantly, it was like, will this shut you up? Okay, good. All right.

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah, whatever.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Disney plus.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

I, I, I get proud of both, both myself and my parenting when I'm just watching a television. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

You know, like, anytime I'm just like, I'm just gonna watch this show, I'm not gonna be on my phone at the same time.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

I'm proud of myself. And then also anytime that she just watches the television, I'm like, okay, we're doing pretty good today.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

I did that as a kid, and I turned out okay.

[Michelle Wolf]

Not only was I watching tv, I had, you know, I had two older brothers, and we had One of the TVs where you had to change the channel on the TV.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Right?

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yes. Too. Yeah.

[Michelle Wolf]

And because I was the youngest and the easiest to convince of anything, I sat next to the tv.

[Brian Green]

No.

[Michelle Wolf]

So that I could change the channel. Because we would often try to watch stuff that our parents, or at least that my parents didn't want my older brothers to watch. I had no idea what was going on. Right. So not only was I watching television, I was watching television right next to Elevation.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Oh, he's such a sweet little boy. He's been quiet the entire time.

[Michelle Wolf]

He's been doing good. I think he's just wants to switch around.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

He wants, he wants to take the other one. Well, listen, okay, so we'll, we'll. This special, the well is currently on Netflix. You can follow Michelle on social media also. You are a true joy to watch on my social media. You're funny. And, and I, I like the efficiency. Like, your joke writing is very efficient. I think you use your words very well. And unlike me, you don't go on and on forever. I think that's a. I think your comedy is, like, it's special in that way. It's unique in that way. It's smart, it's sharp, it's biting, and you don't have to.

[Michelle Wolf]

I'm also just not a great storyteller, you know? Like, some people are really good at stories, make it funny along the way. And I'm just like, yeah, I'll ram. Like, I'm like, I can't.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

I know. Like, how was last Night. I'm like, it was great. And you know, we asked Brian how was last night?

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

And a half an hour later.

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah, right.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Half an hour later. But, you know, that's, that's.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

That's a gift.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah. Some people are wordy. Some people are not. I don't know if it's a gift. My wife wouldn't call it a gift.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

That's why she wanted you to start the podcast.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Shut the up. Michelle Wolf's new special. The. Well, check the show notes below. Michelle, thank you so much. You are welcome on anytime you really.

[Michelle Wolf]

Thanks for having me, guys. This was really fun.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Wonderful. Thank you. You. We appreciate you taking time because we know you're very busy writing, being a mama and promoting this. Well. So let's go watch it and get her back behind is a kid. Let's get her in front of is a kid. Can we, guys?

[Michelle Wolf]

Right. Yeah, let's.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah. Leap frog. Leapfrog this. Leapfrog the show where D list celebrities try and guess whether or not it's cake. Although I've seen some BNA list celebrities on there in the last couple seasons. I'm like, oh, is it cake? Must be a thing now.

[Michelle Wolf]

Everyone wants to know if it's cake.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Cake, guys.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah, really, they do do some crazy stuff.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

They do. But I'm just not in that interested.

[Brian Green]

In whether or not it's cake. I just don't care.

[Michelle Wolf]

Yeah, I don't. I honestly. Stop trying to convince me if it's cake or not.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Michelle Wolf]

Just give me cake or don't give me cake. You give me a shoe and it's not cake. I'm gonna be serious.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Unless it's a nice shoe and then you have to bring the other one.

[Brian Green]

Instead of calling it don't give me.

[Michelle Wolf]

A shoe when I'm expecting cake. Cake.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Yeah, that's right. Instead of calling it is a cake, we should be here's some cake. And then you just get some cake. Right.

[Michelle Wolf]

It's just a show. Feeding celebrities.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Feeding Corey Feldman.

[Michelle Wolf]

Like celebrities commit all of a sudden.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Thank you, Michelle. We appreciate it.

[Co-host's partner or another guest]

Yes.

[Michelle Wolf]

Thanks, guys. Bye.

[Rachel]

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[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

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[Michelle Wolf]

So that means a half day.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

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[Brian Green]

To be feeding your child and entertaining two mediocre comedy podcasters at the same time is a feat. Feat, a couple complain, as they would say. Is that French or Italian? I'm not sure. Michelle Wolf Very honored to have her here. She was like, so disarmingly lovely. I didn't. Sometimes you expect a little more snap, but I didn't get any snap. I got all the crackle and pop and none of the snap. And I loved it. She was lovely and she's welcome back anytime.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Time.

[Brian Green]

It's great to be here. A new special available on Netflix that is her second Netflix special. I think she also has an HBO special along with a bunch of other stuff that you can find at Michelle is a wolf.com Michelle is a wolf.com Links down below. She's also got a podcast, which I don't even think we touched on. I. I don't remember, but I don't think we touched on her podcast, which is called Michelle Wolf's Thought Box. And her most recent episode is called Tylenol versus Trump. I love it. I'm going to listen to it while I vomit. It's going to be awesome.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

All right.

[Brian Green]

Thank you so much to Michelle. Sorry to Chrissy. She has been shafted on so many of these intros and outros over the last two months. I don't even know what to say. Some of them were her fault because she went out of town for seven.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

Weeks for Mempho and left me here hanging.

[Brian Green]

Okay. And a very special episode tomorrow because we're going to take the day off tomorrow. We're going to keep Chrissy out of the peach tree dish one more day and I'm going to run the other part. My half of beach too sandy, Water too wet. I did a special guest appearance with them and they came on with us. I don't know, it was like a combo appearance. We were all just kicking it on the fly.

[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

It was really funny.

[Brian Green]

Go check them out. I love their podcast. It is incred incredible, as the Spaniards would say. But you can hear them tomorrow here on the show at the commercial break on Instagram YouTube.com the commercial break. Hit the live button if you want to watch the videos now. Because remember, remember, you can see them early by watching it live. Okay. 212-4333 TCB. The phone is now working. It's open for everybody. Okay, that is definitely all I'm going to be doing for today, but I do love you and I love Chrissy too. Best to you and all the others out in the podcast universe. Until next time, I will say, I do say, and I must say goodbye.

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[Michelle Wolf]

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[Co-host (possibly Astrid)]

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[Michelle Wolf]

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