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Brian Green (9:32)

Indeed. And Mo is here with us now. Mo, I can safely say that I think you're the first Peabody Award winner to show up to the cross break. That's incredible. Well, there's a first for everything. And your agent has led you astray. But.

Mo Amer (9:47)

Tell you have I told them I needed a break and they were like, we got something perfect for you. I was like.

Brian Green (9:54)

What? We often say on this show that you show up for one of two reasons. You're on your way up or on your way down. I have a feeling you're on your way.

Mo Amer (10:03)

Up. Oh, boy. Tell you it's a rough.

Brian Green (10:05)

Room. Congratulations on all the success over the last couple of years. You. We, Christy and I were just talking about the television show which did win a Peabody Award. And I mean, could you have ever imagined this, like, yeah. From Houston, or did you. Did you imagine, like, were you. Is this where you.

Mo Amer (10:24)

Wanted.

Brian Green (10:24)

Yeah. This is where you wanted to. To.

Mo Amer (10:26)

Go? Yes. Yes, I did. No, I did. I did. You know, I'm a dreamer. You know, I Do. I did have, like, a vision for myself at a very early age of what I wanted to do with my life and, and what kind of stories I wanted to tell. And it's never, you know, you don't ever expect anything, you know, so it's, it's, it's a. It's extremely flattering, rewarding, and it feels energizing to get, of course, a Peabody or a Gotham or, you know, to be honored in afi, for instance, which I just didn't know how extraordinarily special that is. So. Yeah. So you're, like, there in that room and, like, your show is selected from 600. There's like 10 that they select from 600, and then, like, next to you, the 10 films of the year. And it's everywhere all at once, and it's Spielberg and James Cameron. You're like, what's what, what am I.

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Mo Amer (11:25)

Right. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. You do pinch yourself in that situation. You're like, oh, cool. And then you get a letter from Spielberg saying, like, how much he loves the show. Oh, my God, you gotta. I quit Spielberg.

Brian Green (11:37)

Yeah. You quit? Yeah. How can I do that? How can I do better than.

Mo Amer (11:40)

This? I'm.

Brian Green (11:40)

Out. Mic.

Mo Amer (11:42)

Drop. Yeah, no, it's cool. It's. It's definitely. It's affirming, but it's. You know, this business sucks, man, because once you, Once you're. Once you do that, you feel good for like, two seconds and you're like, what's next? What am I doing next? And what am I going to tell it? And then season two was a big, heavy, heavy lift for me. And just emotionally, not creatively or anything like that. I feel like I'm built for making film and television. So it wasn't necessarily like, oh, that was emotionally very, very difficult and heavy. And I was just thrilled that, that I was able to fulfill basically everything I wanted to do with season two and then taking that into the special of Wild World. Yeah, it's just very, very happy about that. But then you're, like, so exhausted emotionally and mentally, like, okay, maybe I should go raise my son for a.

Brian Green (12:30)

Bit. I think that people who, who are creative for a living, I do think that there are these deep breaths that need to be taken. Like, there's these moments you have to recharge. You have to recharge and reflect and lean into the things that maybe you just drove on by because things were moving so fast. And I can't imagine how it must feel. I can imagine it's Hard to sit in that room like Steven Spielberg and all these people that you were just sharing and then go like really be able to suck that all in. In that moment. It's probably takes a moment of space when you can go, holy, this just all happened to me. And then you have to recharge your batteries and go do it again. You have to go do the next thing. And that's exactly, that's really hard, I think. I don't know who said this. Someone said this on our show. Another comedian said this on our show. That if you come up with one or two good hours, great hours of material in your life, then you'll used to be that you would be considered one of the greats. But now, right, it's like you have to come up with a great hour or two every two years or you're not on top of the game. And so, you know, I think you're, you're a little bit different in the sense that you're also, you're also speaking about stuff that is very close to your heart and is very serious. So it's emotionally taxing. It's personal to you. How are you feeling now? How is the current climate feeling to you right.

Mo Amer (13:54)

Now? Well, you touched upon a few things. First of all, like regarding the stand up and how many hours you come up with and this. And I think every person is different. You know, it just depends on what you're trying to say, what you do or you just. Is there any meaning behind your work? And I think that's something that I've always wanted. What is the legacy you leave behind and what kind of stories are you telling and who's going to be able to like carry that after you? You know, that's something that I think about pretty frequently. And also, has this been done before? Has any of this been done before I ever heard anything like this before? That's what really gets me excited. And yes, taking a break and taking a breath and all that is good. But also it's a double edged sword for me. It's like I need to get the stuff out too or else I feel restless. So it's like, yeah, understanding how to do that. I don't even know how to like vacation. I really don't. Like, my wife is the one that really just taught me how to do that. I don't know even know how to do that. It was really weird, like just to sit around and just do what. What are we doing? You know what I mean? Like. Yeah, it just felt odd space for Me. So you try to read. You try to, you know, just process as much as you can and be present as much as you can in those moments. But really, that's what it's about for me. It's like, what kind of stories am I telling? Have I seen anything like this before? Is it. Is it gonna be interesting enough for me, like, to keep my attention, to be honest? And that's. And that's what gets me going. And stand up is one thing. And, you know, I've. I'll go up on stage and I'll riff for hours. Not just doing, like, you know, be inspired by the audience, but that's how I write. Everything is improvised. So when you think of, like, constructing a particular hour that's encapsulating something, what is it? Whatever it is. And for me, with Wild World is kind of buttoning up what I did with season two of MO and just bringing that chapter to a close so I can move on and do the next thing you know. You know, that's. That's what it was for me. And I feel like I captured the time in Wild World. And that's. My son. Let me know that I. That I have not done that. He's calling me out right.

Brian Green (16:11)

Now. Welcome to the show, my little.

Ryan Reynolds (16:14)

Buddy.

Mo Amer (16:14)

Yeah. Yeah. Sorry.

Brian Green (16:15)

Guys. No, you. Don't be.

Mo Amer (16:17)

Sorry. Okay. As long as you're okay with it, I'm fine with.

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Brian Green (16:21)

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Mo Amer (16:28)

Vacuums. Yeah, I feel great. No, no, vacuum. Vacuum has got to be the worst. But. But, no, no, genuinely, like, with Wild World, I really wanted to capture the time. And that's why, like, the closer even of the special is all about time, how we make use of our time. It's kind of like this poem, this reflection, this bit. Sometimes funny, sometimes mostly reflective. And. And I wrote that, like, the day before I filmed the.

Brian Green (16:53)

Special.

Rachel (16:54)

Wow.

Mo Amer (16:54)

Wow. And it was like four pages long, and I was just panicking, but I was also really inspired, and I had to do it. It's just like, something that I had to do. And you talk about, like, oh, you gotta take a year or two years to develop material. That's true. But sometimes you gotta have the guts to follow your instincts and to understand, like, oh, you gotta follow your inspiration and the things that you write, you gotta believe in. And then you push forward and you put yourself and everybody else around you in a slight Panic attack. But when you're done, it's tremendous. And that's how I feel about.

Brian Green (17:26)

It. Do you find those moments of inspiration are some of your best? I think.

Mo Amer (17:31)

Yes. Yeah, they are. Because I wonder how many people actually have those moments and they get too scared or their fear stops them from doing.

Brian Green (17:41)

It. I think.

Sponsor Voice (17:42)

Most.

Mo Amer (17:42)

Yeah. Yeah. And I think with season two of making my show, I can't tell you how many times I rewrote stuff on set that took it from like a B plus to an A plus. There's so many moments that just elevated things or change a setup, which is, you know, not easy to do when you're under that kind of stress of finishing at a certain time. And, you know, there's all these implications if you don't execute. You know, especially on a film.

Brian Green (18:06)

Set.

Mo Amer (18:07)

Yeah. TV set, you know, it just causes a tremendous domino effect. So you have to really be on top of it and really understand, like, what story you're trying to tell and really believe in those instincts and know how to execute. And I find myself. I'm really great at it. Like, this is actually the thing I. I work best with.

Brian Green (18:27)

My. Under.

Mo Amer (18:28)

Pressure. Back under.

Ryan Reynolds (18:29)

Pressure.

Mo Amer (18:29)

Yeah. I get bored. I get bored. If it's. There's no problem, like, ah, whatever, we'll do it.

Brian Green (18:33)

Later. Yeah. I feel that sense of urgency too, is that when. When there's a fire under my ass, I get. There's motivation there. And I find what I call, you know, moments of creativity, I think are just moments of God. Right. It's just like you're shutting off. Something's allowing you to just, like, channel whatever's coming through. And I don't find those in moments of, like, you know, just sitting around thinking about it. I find it when it happens, in the moment when the pressure's on. There he. There he or she.

Mo Amer (18:58)

Comes. Well, I think it's a combo. I.

Brian Green (19:01)

Think.

Mo Amer (19:01)

Exactly. I think it's a combination of all those things. I think it's all those hours you spent before that moment. You know, like, you spend weeks and weeks and months and maybe years of thinking about something, and then you write it out and then you go film it, and then you see it and you go, wait, wait, wait, I got it now. Yeah. So you can't discount all that effort that happened before. It's really, like, inspired in the moment because you've spent so much time nurturing.

Brian Green (19:35)

It.

Mo Amer (19:35)

Yeah. So. So that's. That's how it. To me, that's. That's how it works for me at Least like where I spend all this time. And then in the moment you're like, wait, wait, this is wrong. It's not completely wrong, but if you tweak this ye, yeah, you'll get to something really special. And you do. Most of the time you do. And if it sucks, you got to be honest with yourself and tell your ego to shut up. Like this sucks. You got to cut.

Brian Green (19:55)

This. Yeah, no, that's true. You, I, I, I love hearing you describe your own creative process. Do you have people around you that you trust or does this come from Mo? Like are you the ultimate arbiter of what's coming out of your brain or are there people around you like your wife or a friend or producer, whoever that goes. Hey.

Mo Amer (20:16)

Mo. Not this, that I'm the pretty much the first guy that'll say that, to be honest. And then, and then I'll have people that I'll show it to and that could tell right away. You know, I could tell if this is good or not because I'm a big believer in like necessarily notes. But first reactions, right? Yeah. And then, and then I'll see if I actually communicated what I wanted in a particular scene or in a stand up bit or whatever. You'll see it right away and then you'll be like, oh, I know how to fix this. I didn't do my job fully here. Let me fix that. And then you'll tweak it and then you'll get what you want out of it. That's usually how I operate like with the series and everything. Like I'm just me and my editors were just from episode to episode we just flip swat, you know, we swap back and forth and you know, every second is accounted for. Every, everything. Even when we were scoring the show, I'd go and score the show with the band and sit together like, ah, this didn't sound right. And switch this. Do that go faster here, you know, and I don't know, I don't know anything about scoring show, but I can feel it and I can know it. You see it. You just make adjustments. So there's every part of it. Like I was meticulously involved with. There's not a, literally, there's not a second that's not accounted for. And maybe like the opening of season two, I spent like 100 hours on maybe more. Geez, it's like the first minute. The first minute, yeah. Even for the special, the opening shadow, I spent like 70 hours on something like that. They're still walking through Washington D.C. of my shadow. You love process, huh? No, I don't. It.

Brian Green (21:49)

Sucks. Oh, you.

Mo Amer (21:50)

Don'T? But not this part. I.

Brian Green (21:52)

Mean. No, not this part, but I'm saying the whole. The whole thing, like, not that. Not that, like, you know, every single minute of, you know, being in. In with the band, you.

Mo Amer (21:59)

The. Yeah, the band stuff was awesome. Yeah, the band stuff is awesome. Music is everything. Could turn you off also right away if it doesn't work. Well, I mean, whoever's scoring the show, they have to know if what your intention is with, you know, how you're directing things, how you put it together and how you edit it. And they don't know. Yeah, I mean, you gotta, like, help them out, do. To do their job. Yeah. So, you know, and I enjoyed that aspect immensely, but, you know, just spending hours and hours in a dark.

Brian Green (22:27)

Room, you know, editing.

Mo Amer (22:28)

Every. Going over a particular. Not to edit. But like, if you're particularly focusing on a particular montage or thing, you just. It just sucks. It's not fun. At some point, you want to just pull your ears off your face, you know, like your head, you know, it's like, not fun. You pull your eyelashes out. It's not good. No, no, no. It's painful. It's very.

Brian Green (22:48)

Painful. Oh, you have a talent for it, though. I mean, there's what comes out of.

Mo Amer (22:52)

It. So it still sucks. It still hurts. No, no, but like. But like, when you put it together and everything is there, it's extremely rewarding, obviously, and that's. That's cool. And, you know, I. That's why I really enjoyed the premiere of. Of season two. Like, you know, people seeing it with, like, you know, 300 people in a.

Brian Green (23:12)

Theater. Did you go do.

Mo Amer (23:14)

That? That was cool, you said. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. It was so cool to see that. Yeah.

Brian Green (23:20)

Yeah. I think that would be like when you do a podcast, and you know this too, because you. You've been a part of one. Like when you do a podcast, you're talking to no microphone. It goes into the void. Right. You never see anybody's reaction. Maybe somebody writes or calls or texts or.

Mo Amer (23:32)

Whatever.

Brian Green (23:33)

Sure. But it goes into a void. And I think what would feel gratifying to me is to see people react to the work that you put out there. In real time. Yeah, in real time. That, to me would be like the ultimate, you know.

Mo Amer (23:46)

Just. That's why stand up is so, you know, rewarding, but also, like, you get your response right away. They'll tell you if it sucks, doesn't immediately or if it's interesting though, you could tell they're. They're with you. Yeah, I mean like what you're talking about, they're still.

Brian Green (24:03)

Engaged. There's like a room. You're playing with the energy.

Mo Amer (24:08)

Right? Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly. You could tell. As long as you keep them interested, that's all that really matters. You always find the joke and you find the thing. But if you're just wandering around, then they'll start wandering. If you don't have like, like, if you don't have them captivated, then it'll just like stop.

Brian Green (24:26)

Listening. Do you, I'm interested to know, do those moments still happen to you often? Because if you're. Because you mentioned that a lot of what you do is improvised, right? And you're doing it on the flyer, you're finding inspiration moments before, a day before or whatever. Do you find that there are moments when you throw something out there, the audience doesn't react and you're feeling some.

Mo Amer (24:53)

Like. I don't know, I don't feel anything inside. It's just like, we know whenever you're starting at zero, like I am after the special release, you're just. I like to get back in the swing of things. And the way I do that is just being as natural as possible, which means that there's nothing prepared. I'm going up on stage, I'm going to be in the moment. The audience will inspire something or not, and then I'll figure it out, you know, and then, and then you'll end up like on stage of again. The last three days I did like, you're not this, this past week I did like six hours of stand up in three days. We're just on stage for two hours, two and a half.

Brian Green (25:29)

220.

Rachel (25:30)

Wow. Where do you do.

Mo Amer (25:31)

That? We don't even know. I was doing them in Houston, in my hometown, with this small room called the Box inside the secret group. It's like a music like rock venue. It's fun. It's really, really fun. So you just do these pop ups in Houston and, and I just like doing it. It's just so much fun. And it's like the pure stand. I really, really enjoy it, but that's how I'll do it. And then you'll find stuff and you'll build stuff from there and then, you know, you'll just keep doing that over and over again and somebody will tell you or like, oh, the thing you did. I was like, oh, yeah, that's, that's a good one. I should work on.

Brian Green (26:05)

That. Yeah. Remind me of what I.

Mo Amer (26:08)

Said. Yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly. That's why I film everything. So that's the process, though. Everything is completely just freestyle and, you know, and just very natural and organic and in the moment. And then you'll run into stuff that you wouldn't think about. And sometimes I'll do this where I was like, oh, before the show even starts. This is just like in the building stage, I'm like, hey, write down like a subject and it'll put it in a bucket form and have it on the side. And after like hour, hour and a half of being on stage, I'm like, all right, let's see what's in the bucket. And I'll reach in the bucket and there'll be a topic and people that you could just tell what's. It's almost like having a focus group. Yeah. And you could see what's on people's minds. Yeah. And some of it's silly, some of it is topical, some of it's political. It just depends. Everyone's different. Some of it is just outright silly and gross, you know, like gross sometimes. Which is fun, you know, it's also fun. Yeah, it's a nice mix up. But that's. I think that spontaneity is very important in stand up, at least for me, just to keep that like organic, natural feel to.

Brian Green (27:15)

It. And you're asking the audience to get, to get involved. You're reacting to it instantaneously. That takes an immense amount of, I think, presence and talent. Like, it's. That's not the easiest thing in the world to do. There are so many stand up comics and we've talked to so many of them and you know that. And that's. And it's okay too. You know, they build this set meticulously, word for word, over and over again, rinse and repeat until they get it to a place where they feel like the audience is going to react the way that they want them to react. And that's okay, that's. It's.

Mo Amer (27:45)

Essentially. No, that's. No, that's. So that's. So I'm telling. We're talking about different stages.

Brian Green (27:49)

Right? Yeah.

Mo Amer (27:49)

Yeah. So in the early on, on the reconstruction stage, I will do that. I will just completely freestyle everything there. And then you'll start building, building, building. Refinement, Refinement, refinement. And then you build out from the. You go from, like. For me, I'll do like 80 seater, 100 seater and just do like 30 of them, you know, 30 of these shows pop ups. Maybe same day pop ups. I'm like, I feel like doing something today. Put a post to see who shows up and let's have a good time. And, you know, and then that's how I build it. And then you'll build the actual set and then you'll go to bigger venues. You'll go to comedy clubs. You work in 500 seaters, you know, for a whole week, doing six, seven shows a week. And then from there you'll go, okay, now it's ready. That's going to.

Brian Green (28:32)

Feel. You've got your beats, you know where you're.

Mo Amer (28:34)

Gonna. Yeah, yeah.

Brian Green (28:35)

Yeah. And you still hit it. When you do those big theaters, do you also leave. I mean, I'm just curious if you leave that room for the inspiration for the improvisation in those.

Mo Amer (28:45)

Big. Always. Yeah, I don't do like the bucket thing or anything like that. People usually, when they want to come out to the theater, they expect a show, right? So he's like, you got to give them a show. And that's why it's like, I did that for the last, you know, years straight. And, you know, it's fun. It's incredible. It was really a pretty special experience post season two, leading up to the special Wild World, that's on Netflix.

Brian Green (29:10)

Now. No streaming link in the show. That's.

Mo Amer (29:16)

Right. It was. It was. It was really extraordinary to go around the world with my family and my kiddo and like, just to. Just to have that shared experience with the audience and how special that was to hit up like 30 countries in a very short period of time and to do all these theaters was really, really cool. And to be honest with you, it was really draining because of the subject matter. Because what I felt and what was going on and what's still happening, that's why I'm going back to these, like, small rooms and having. Trying to find myself again, trying to find, like, some joy in it again. Because the stakes feel so high, you.

Brian Green (29:52)

Know? They are.

Mo Amer (29:53)

Yeah. Yeah, they are. They absolutely are. So they are. You.

Brian Green (29:57)

Are. Have not. I believe in your. At least since I've been aware of you, have not shied away from speaking up and speaking out about things you feel very strongly about, as you should. It's important. Right. And. But that raises the stakes in the room. It raises the stakes with you. And I mean, this is a conscious choice you're making from a. I'm sure from a deep place of. Of empathy and want for the world to understand. The perspective that you bring is that that must Be like, emotionally taxing. You just said 30. 30 countries, you know, and however many bring, going all around the world, traveling and then getting up and talking about the subject, Subject matter night after night while the world is literally crumbling around you, that must be very.

Mo Amer (30:43)

Tough. Yes, yes. Oprah, thank you so much. You're about to make me cry here right now.

Ryan Reynolds (30:49)

Gotcha.

Mo Amer (30:50)

Gotcha. Love. Oh, so.

Brian Green (30:55)

Hard.

Mo Amer (30:57)

Help. Oh, my.

Brian Green (31:00)

God. Love you. We love.

Sponsor Voice (31:01)

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Brian Green (31:05)

Differently. I'm sure they.

Mo Amer (31:06)

Do. Yeah. I think it's per. I mean, it's been pretty universal, to be honest with you. I haven't had any issues. I think everyone feels pretty clear that you shouldn't, you know, obliterate another. Obliterate entire civilized population, I think. Right. It's totally okay to say out loud. Yeah. Which is nuts to say about the world today. That is controversial to say.

Brian Green (31:29)

It. It is nuts to say. And I, and I. I have to think that we as human beings are at a point when we can agree that this kind of absolute. And I'm just going to say it like I see it. Tyranny is up. It's just fucked up. And it took two years, almost year and a half for the world to rally and say, okay, enough is enough. Something needs to be done. And in that time, so many lives.

Mo Amer (31:54)

Lost.

Brian Green (31:54)

Yeah. The complete decimation of a people, of a country that wasn't doing all that well in the first place because of more tyranny is just insane to think that anybody would disagree with that. But there are. I mean, you know, listen, there are. There's always contrarians, I guess, in a group. I watched.

Mo Amer (32:10)

You. Yeah, there's devils. There's devils out there. Yeah, there's. There's devils that don't really feel like we should all get along and have. Everyone has a right to exist and have right to food, water and shelter. You know, there's people that actually believe that. Yes, there are people that actually believe that. And, and for me, like, I always knew I was. Make it. I always knew I was like. You asked me this question before. Did you really imagine for yourself? And I, And I do sometimes want to be like, yeah, I never did, but I saw it. No, I did. I did. And I'm grateful that I did. I'm grateful that I. That I felt that in my gut and I've. And I followed my gut, which is a big gut. But it has, you know, and it was right. That's what, that's what matters most. But I didn't think it was going to Be under these type of circumstances. I certainly didn't think I was going to be meeting a lot of these children. And I didn't feel, you know, I never thought I'd imagine I'd meet these doctors that were there on the ground. So there is an immense responsibility. You know, everyone that I've ever looked up to before in my entire life has spoken up, you.

Brian Green (33:14)

Know.

Mo Amer (33:14)

Yes. Especially when it pertains to their people, when it matters. Like. Yeah, like some, some that don't. Who is like just, you know, it doesn't matter if there's their people or not. But again, who's their people? It's just human beings on this earth. We come from different walks of life, we come from different backgrounds from. We can learn from each other and respect one another. And once you see other people as a lower, then we're done for. We're toast. So it's just like, hey, there is a absolute human responsibility. Not even like me as a Palestinian responsible. No, as a human being, to say this is wrong. That's the very most basic, bare minimum thing you could do. So I would do that for any other people. I would do that for any situation that I feel like is absolutely wrong. And I know it's wrong, and I'm seeing it with my own eyes. And I've held these kids, like, I've. They've come to my shows, I've taken picture of them. They've given me like this just, you know, when you're getting squeezed by a kid that's like, lost their mom and dad and they're like missing a limb, you're like, I don't know, you're like, I quit. You know what I mean? Like, this is. Nothing else matters. Like, of course I have to, you know, you know, amplify this. You know, there's no other way. And you know, again, this is part of the beauty of stand up and making television. And I was in a unique situation where I had a TV show where it's a Palestinian family that's living in Houston. And, you know, that, that you get to tell this type of story and the stand up of it all, it's what makes, you know, the art fun or interesting or challenging is that you're able to like, walk this tightrope while people are shooting lasers at you. And you get to the other side, you're like, whoa, that was intense. We did.

Brian Green (35:06)

That. Yeah, we did.

Mo Amer (35:07)

That. Yeah. You.

Brian Green (35:08)

Know. Do you have any optimism? I'm. You seem like you might be optimistic kind of guy. Do you have optimism that things work out between, with this current situation between Palestine and.

Mo Amer (35:22)

Israel. Well, it hasn't before, so it's been going on for 80 plus years. So I, I, I'm, I'm, of course I'm always hopeful. I never lose hope. But you know, you could tell people's intentions are not, not haven't been right for a very long time. This has not just happened after October 7th. This is super annoying that it just keeps, this is like the thing where people look at where it's, you could say a hundred years. It's been over a hundred years. I mean since World War I, since they were fleeing there as refugees to come to Palestine and they were taken in the colonization and I don't want to have a history lesson here on the show, but it's been going on for quite some time and Palestinians have been under, you know, a pretty brutal occupation in the west bank and living in apartheid. And that's not me saying it's every single, you know, respected institution on planet Earth that's saying that. So I'm not saying that. So it's, I'm just telling you what it is. And that's what episode eight is. And in season two of MO was really trying to just bring that home and literally bring the family home and for people to see what it's like to actually even travel there as Palestinians. Just to see like my mom, like my own mom who's born there, who's from there, you know, and her sisters and family is there. And you know, I was telling my wife yesterday, like I feel such a deep like sadness that I can't go take my son to his great grandparents house who he's named after and just have a summer there, you know, and just get to see the family. There's like a sense of like I've been robbed. And I say this in my special. It's like my mom says this to me. Like I feel like I'm living the same life as my grandmothers. And this is what inspired the time bit. It was like time is undefeated, time is fleeting, time flies and you can never go back in time. Yeah. And, and you know, that's what inspired everything with the time bit itself at the end of the.

Brian Green (37:20)

Special. It's beautiful. You know, my wife is Venezuelan and we talk about this.

Mo Amer (37:24)

Often. I can't talk to you anymore. I have so many friends that are. No, I'm just teasing people. Just come.

Brian Green (37:32)

On. You have a lot of.

Mo Amer (37:32)

Friends.

Brian Green (37:33)

Kidding. You have friends that are married to.

Mo Amer (37:35)

Venezuelans? Yes, I Do I. Do I have a very dear friend just six months in.

Brian Green (37:40)

Yeah. Well, congratulations. Congratulations. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the.

Mo Amer (37:44)

Show.

Sponsor Voice (37:45)

Yeah.

Brian Green (37:46)

Family. Yeah. And a beautiful people of the Venezuelans also. And they also robbed. I mean, in a different way, but everything's different, but kind of the same. And they are also disparate people all around the world. World. And we talk about this often, that I now have children who the best part of them is Venezuelan. And there is little to no chance, at least not right now, that we could go back and we could. They could go see their grandparents in their native, you know, part where their.

Mo Amer (38:14)

Mom. Excuse my ignorance, but why can't she go.

Brian Green (38:16)

Back? She could go back, but it would put her and the children in danger because Venezuela is not necessarily. It's not as dangerous as Palestine, but there is a very oppressive government. And anytime you leave and you come back, say you become a U.S. citizen and you go back, you could. But then you bring American children into the situation, it could be dangerous. And the Maduran government could at any. For at any time, for any reason, decide that they don't like you and you end up somewhere.

Mo Amer (38:45)

Disappeared.

Brian Green (38:46)

Yeah.

Mo Amer (38:46)

Right.

Brian Green (38:47)

Right. So. And this has happened to Americans, actually, we just got four Americans back who spent a long time in Venezuelan prison because they said the wrong thing about the government. And I have not always, and I'm also not a hugely public figure, but I'm a public figure and said some things on the show that I feel strongly.

Mo Amer (39:03)

About. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could have a good.

Brian Green (39:05)

Idea. Yeah. No, not a good.

Mo Amer (39:07)

Idea.

Brian Green (39:07)

Yeah. It just puts everybody in danger for no.

Mo Amer (39:09)

Reason. Right, I get it.

Brian Green (39:10)

Yeah. But at some point, hopefully, you know, in the near future, things change, but you remain hopeful, but you don't get yourself too excited because, you know, you never know what's.

Mo Amer (39:21)

Around. Well, the good news is it seems like the. The light at the end of the talk shouldn't say good news, but feels like it's like you can still retain, like, your lands and ownership of lands and that can still be there. And then. Yes, eventually, when it turns around, you can just go home.

Brian Green (39:37)

Right? Yes, eventually. Yes. That's. It's. It's different in that situation where, like, you know, in Palestine, who knows what happens? I.

Mo Amer (39:43)

Mean.

Brian Green (39:44)

Yeah. Turn it into the. It seems like resort. I mean, it's like. It's.

Mo Amer (39:48)

Crazy. Yeah. It's disgusting. Yeah. It's happening. They're bulldozing and clearing it out right now. There's no intention. Yeah, I just saw it today, this morning. They're like bulldozing all the rubble and everything. It's clearly. It's very, very clear that the intention was this. Decimate. Move them all out, put them in tents, you know, refugee. Kill whoever you can. That's fine. Hospital, dude, hospitals, churches, mosques, libraries. It doesn't matter. Decimate. Eliminate history, you know, and then. And you can just, you know, rebuild on. On dead people. Like, that's crazy.

Brian Green (40:19)

Bananas. Build, trump.

Mo Amer (40:21)

Palestine. Goddamn.

Brian Green (40:23)

Bananas. It is goddamn bananas. And I'm. I. I have friends that are Palestinian and they have amplified your voice by sharing your reels and talking and all this other stuff. And so I think it's you. You met the moment. Right. And I. That's amazing that you met the moment, you met the.

Mo Amer (40:40)

Time. And I just feel like making something that's timely and timeless, you know, and that's like talking about legacy and what you leave behind. It takes us back to what I was saying there, and I think it's really important to do so. And I am looking forward to this next phase as well, and just trying to see what I come up with and right next that can maybe just find some kind of. Some kind of happiness and fun in it again. Because it's just been super, super heavy and I think just like. Like just going to like pure filmmaking and just doing something dope and funny and thoughtful. Still subversive, but in a different direction than I did before, for sure. Like, just in this phase of, like, reinventing. Yeah. Myself in a.

Brian Green (41:24)

Way. I.

Mo Amer (41:26)

Gotta. Yeah, you're a dad.

Brian Green (41:28)

Now. Yeah, you're a dad. Yeah, you would.

Mo Amer (41:32)

Think. But the guy doesn't like me. He doesn't want me. Okay. Wants nothing to do with me. He's just still as on his. His mother's teeth. I mean, that's it. That's all he wants. What do you have to offer? Do you have milk in your chest? No. Get out of.

Brian Green (41:45)

Here.

Mo Amer (41:46)

Comfort.

Brian Green (41:46)

Yeah. I don't care for your funny faces.

Mo Amer (41:48)

Man. It's the. It's the eye contact while he's breastfeeding is what's so concerning, you know, Said side eye, like.

Brian Green (41:55)

Yeah, it is so.

Mo Amer (41:58)

True. It's like, bro, what are you looking at me like that, boy? You know, it's very depressed. Yeah, exactly. And you try to get near it. He's like. He just smacks me right in the face. And then I like, pretend I've done every. I'm like, pretend to cry. Like, you can't hit me in the face. Don't hit me in the face. Like, don't do it. It's like all these levels of, hey, don't hit me in the face. He could care less. You moving on? Get out of here. All.

Brian Green (42:24)

Right. You will be surprised one day when he's off. Off the teat. That little kid is going to start looking at you in a different way. And then you guys are going to be buddies forever. Best.

Mo Amer (42:36)

Friends. That's if I let him forget.

Brian Green (42:38)

It. Yeah, don't let him forget it. You got to remind him when.

Mo Amer (42:41)

He'S 20, I might be like, no, sorry.

Sponsor Voice (42:43)

Buddy. Yeah.

Mo Amer (42:43)

Try. You had your chance, you know, I'm not going to sit here and just, like, be a.

Brian Green (42:47)

Pushover. Yeah, you think I'm going to wait forever for.

Mo Amer (42:49)

You? Well, you want me to raise you now? No, Buddy. You got YouTube videos to show you how to be a. To be a man. Thank.

Brian Green (42:59)

You. There's that dad. YouTube.

Mo Amer (43:00)

Dad. Oh, God, I would be so.

Brian Green (43:03)

Heartbroken. Yeah, I.

Mo Amer (43:05)

Know. If I walk in and my son's like, I'm good. I gotta. I got a YouTube father.

Brian Green (43:10)

Now. It's all happening. It's all happening. In some ways, I'm.

Mo Amer (43:15)

Happy. I think I would snap the iPad and I. I would. I would snap that. Yeah, I think I would snap.

Brian Green (43:21)

What? Yeah, you're okay. You're funny. You're right. It's just really funny. In some ways, I'm happy the YouTube dad is there because I don't have some of the skills the YouTube dad has. So I'm gonna go. Go talk to YouTube dad. Yeah, go find out from.

Mo Amer (43:33)

YouTube. Yeah, I'm the kind of crazy, though. Like, while YouTube dad is doing one of these videos, I would just roll up on him mid video. But you think you better than me? You think you got more skill sets than me, boy pal. Yeah. I don't know why I would be speaking from good fellas. Because it's intimidating. You think you could teach my kid better than me? Forget about.

Brian Green (43:57)

It. Come here and you could do it. You got the look. You got the.

Mo Amer (44:00)

Look. Forget about. What are you doing? What are you.

Brian Green (44:01)

Doing? Come here, funny.

Mo Amer (44:04)

Man. Come.

Brian Green (44:05)

Here. Come here. YouTube.

Mo Amer (44:07)

Dad. My son loves you more than me. Go up and just snap on him. I gotta look this guy up. I really gotta look this guy. I gotta be on the lookout for.

Brian Green (44:15)

This. He's there. He's very popular, but I.

Mo Amer (44:17)

Should. Shouldn't do it. Then he'll be in the family.

Brian Green (44:19)

Algorithm. Yeah, he's gonna be in the. That's right. He's gonna get.

Mo Amer (44:22)

Served. No, no, can't do.

Brian Green (44:23)

It. Don't do.

Mo Amer (44:24)

It. Can't do.

Brian Green (44:24)

It. You got to go on private and then. And then find.

Mo Amer (44:27)

Him. And, yeah, just go out of town for a week and come back. And my wife is, like, content with the YouTube, YouTube, father and dad, and she had a YouTube husband, a YouTube dad. Like, just. But I'm so sick as an artist. I'd be like, I could get another, like, 10 minutes out of that. See, you're already thinking, yeah, I'm so sick, though. You know, I could write a movie about this. It's sad, but funny. And also the YouTube, very in the moment. No, I'm just.

Brian Green (44:54)

Kidding. Very.

Mo Amer (44:56)

Now. Very.

Brian Green (44:57)

Now. What I do. I have a question from way back in the beginning of the conversation. I remember. Look at my.

Sponsor Voice (45:02)

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Rachel (45:03)

No.

Sponsor Voice (45:03)

Wow. You.

Brian Green (45:03)

Remember. Where do you, like, when you go on vacation when your wife says, okay, Mo, we got to slow down. You got to take a vacation. You got to learn where. Where do you guys. What's your. What's your vibe? Is it, like, sitting on the beach.

Mo Amer (45:12)

Or. I don't. It's like, the worst. The beach, you know, really? Like, who likes to swim in the beach? Why. Why are you putting yourself out there like.

Brian Green (45:23)

This? Like, I'm capable to survive in the.

Mo Amer (45:26)

Beach.

Brian Green (45:27)

Yeah. It's.

Mo Amer (45:27)

Like. Stop it. No, I do like the sounds of the beach. I like the combination of, like, mountain, beach.

Brian Green (45:32)

Situation. Yeah.

Mo Amer (45:33)

Yeah. I think I prefer that over, like, cold vacation. I don't want to, like. I don't want to go ski. Like.

Brian Green (45:39)

What'S. No, no.

Mo Amer (45:40)

No. Like, you're up there, you're 9, 000 above sea level. You can barely.

Rachel (45:43)

Breathe.

Mo Amer (45:44)

Yeah. You' this little thing, and then go down the slopes like you're out of your.

Brian Green (45:48)

Mind. Everybody, you're gonna break a.

Mo Amer (45:49)

Leg. It's the best.

Brian Green (45:50)

Yeah.

Mo Amer (45:51)

Yeah. I. I think I did the. The. What do you call it? The. Not a jet ski, but the.

Brian Green (45:57)

Snowmobile. Snowmobile. Yeah.

Mo Amer (45:58)

Yeah. I got sick. I got sick the next day. I got sick. I got a huge. Like, a massive fever. Yeah. Because I'm, like, riding at 60 miles an hour in the mountains with below. Yeah. It was below zero. I was, like, so cold, and it was Montana. It was like. Like 5 degrees. Even though I was wearing the space suit or the snow thing, I still got sick. Everyone's in the hotels, got tracking in snow everywhere. It's melting inside the hotel. Everybody's click clacking with their boots inside. I'm like, this is the worst. I'm sorry. This is like, the worst vacation possible. So. Yes, I will take. I'm a boat guy. I like boats. I'll do a boat on the water. I'll do that. I like lakes. Probably like, good lakes more than oceans, because I just don't trust. I respect the ocean. I got a massive amount of respect for the O. It's so powerful. Like, I don't want to mess with you. Like, I don't want to. I'm a great swimmer, but not good enough to be in an ocean, you.

Brian Green (46:51)

Know?

Mo Amer (46:52)

Yeah. And I could hold my breath, like, 45 seconds with no rehearsal, like, no practice. Probably like, 35, 4, in case he's gonna toast, you know? Like, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing it. But I'll anchor somewhere and take, like, a. As long as I could see what's happening under.

Ryan Reynolds (47:08)

There.

Mo Amer (47:09)

Right. I'm okay. We went to Mexico. I think we went to.

Brian Green (47:12)

Cabo. Yeah. Cabo is beautiful.

Mo Amer (47:13)

Yeah. Yeah. Or we went to Puerto Vallarta as well, and we saw all the. It was like, whale season. Yeah. My favorite. And we went whale watching. That was so cool. And then he anchored, and we're in the water, and I could just feel the vibrations of the whales. There's so many whales. And then one came up probably like, 20ft away from.

Brian Green (47:33)

Me.

Mo Amer (47:33)

Amazing. While I was in the. Amazing, my ass. I just scared the shit out of you. It just. I was just like, I'm out of here. Yeah, I'm out of here. I was like, get me out of here. I was like, I'm sitting up there. What am I doing? This guy's. These things weigh tons. What am I doing myself? And my wife was. She was like, paddle boarding, and she had the. She had the surfboard, and she's like, I can't even see her anymore. I'm like, babe. I was like, honey, what the hell are you doing so far? She was like, just reel me in. I was like, you're not connected to the boat. There's no rope. And she started freaking out. She's like, oh, my.

Sponsor Voice (48:10)

God. I'm not.

Mo Amer (48:10)

Gonna. I was like, no. How long do you think this rope isn't? You're like, two football fields away from me. Like, you think they have roped this long? Come over here. There's whales coming out of the water. Yeah. So it's a little tense, I.

Brian Green (48:25)

Think. I.

Mo Amer (48:26)

Agree. But I like that. I think. I think. I think I'm good with that. I love to swim. I do. I do enjoy that. So. Yeah. I don't. I'm just a joke about the thing. But I like the ones, the ocean that has like the netting, you know they have it blocked off for you, right?

Brian Green (48:40)

Yes. Where they. Yeah, me.

Mo Amer (48:42)

Too. Yeah. I want to get in those. It's netted. I'm good to go. If something gets in, it's just very tiny. I can deal with.

Brian Green (48:50)

It. I agree with.

Mo Amer (48:51)

You. But that's it. Like Australia. I'll never swim in Australia. I have no.

Brian Green (48:54)

Desire. I don't have any. I liked. I like Australians, but I have zero desire to spend a lot of time anywhere in Australia because everything can kill.

Mo Amer (49:01)

You.

Brian Green (49:02)

Yeah. Even Australians. Say it. It's not.

Mo Amer (49:04)

Like. It's not like some trucking all the time. Yeah. Bondi Beach. They're just having such a great time. Bondi Beach. And then I saw this documentary about microscopic jellyfish. Yes. It's a microscopic jellyfish. You can only see it through a microscope and it can kill you like within minutes. Yeah. It's like it's. It's.

Brian Green (49:24)

Microscopic.

Mo Amer (49:26)

Yeah. I have no.

Brian Green (49:27)

Chance. I saw this too. It's like the blue jelly. The blue fanged jellyfish or something. And it's got the most. It's like the most poisonous substance known to man. And they're not aggressive, but if you happen to, you know, swat at it or something and it attaches to you and like stings you, you're dead. Nothing that they can do about it. They can hope that your body survives it, but very few people. People do.

Mo Amer (49:46)

And.

Brian Green (49:47)

Exactly. And that's only found in.

Sponsor Voice (49:48)

Australia.

Brian Green (49:48)

Right. It's like all the other terrible things. I love Australia, by the way. We love.

Mo Amer (49:52)

Australia. But I was just in Australia. I don't care. Yeah. Say what? Who cares? Yeah, they.

Brian Green (49:57)

Know. Yeah, they know. That's the thing. I will stick to Outback Steakhouse. That's.

Mo Amer (50:01)

Right. Yeah. Fosters. Australian for beer. No, it's not. Nobody drinks Fosters in Australia. They lied to.

Brian Green (50:07)

You. The good news is no one drinks it here either. So I used to drink those oil cans and then I was like, what am I doing? I look like a. Yeah.

Mo Amer (50:15)

Yeah. Got like a mini keg in your hand. What are you doing? This guy's got a.

Brian Green (50:21)

Problem. I look like a child. Mo's new special is available. There are links in the show notes. And then season one, season two are available too. Of his award winning Peabody Award winning show. Mo, I thank you for coming.

Sponsor Voice (50:38)

On. Yeah, thanks for coming.

Rachel (50:39)

On. It's been.

Mo Amer (50:40)

Great. Oh, thank you for having me. Had a.

Brian Green (50:42)

Blast. You are welcome anytime and we're rooting for you. And we hope to see you again soon. Thanks.

Mo Amer (50:47)

Man. Thank you so much. Much love.

Brian Green (50:48)

Guys. Appreciate it to.

Mo Amer (50:50)

You. You too. Bye.

Rachel (50:51)

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Boned. Mr. Mo Amir, Peabody Award winning Mo Amir. I keep saying it as if, as if it's a credit to the commercial break that he won a Peabody Award, Gotham Awards Independent Spirit Award. I think he was nominated for a couple of Emmys. A guy's got quite the resume, I do have to say, and I really enjoyed our conversation with him. It's fun to talk to all the comedians and a lot of times it's shits and giggles. But at times it's fun to go deeper and Mo was the perfect candidate for that. You know, I do, I do like to read Ram Dass in case you didn't hear. All right, Mo Amir, a bunch of stuff in the show. Notes, notes. You can go check it out. Thanks again to him and to his agent for setting that up. Great. Fantastic. All right, here's how the rest of the week is going to roll out. You're going to check us out again. On Friday we'll have a TCB Classic. And then for Christmas week we'll have another TCB infomercial. On Wednesday, another TCB Classic. And then we return live to the studio right before, before the new year and then after the new year will be on a regular schedule, Tuesday and Thursday, recording episodes live in the studio. You can join us on YouTube.com the commercial break or you can check us out on Twitch. You can get involved in the conversation. You can even join live via video. We will start taking some folks into the room with us and having some fun. So it's a little, little fresh coat of paint for season number seven. Do us a favor, follow us at the commercial break on Instagram so that you can get notified about all the comings and goings of the commercial break. You can follow me, Brian W. Green on Instagram and then you can follow TCB Chrissy on Instagram. Also for all of our individual what else? Oh, you can also, if you want to get a hold of us, if you want, if you want us to respond really quickly, DM us on Instagram and I'll explain why we have the phone, the studio phone, but it gets a little clunky and a little hard to respond to everybody on text message. So if you've been texting us, continue to text us. Otherwise hit us up on Instagram tcbpodcast.com for your free sticker. We look forward to season seven. Happy holidays. If I don't talk to you before then, Merry Christmas. Until next. Oh I do love you. Best to you and until next time I will say, I do say and I must say good fucking.

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