TCB Infomercial: Nacho Redondo

Summary

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The Commercial Break – TCB Infomercial: Nacho Redondo

Episode Date: October 21, 2025
Host: Brian Greene
Guest: Nacho Redondo (comedian, podcaster, part of Escuela de Nada / EDN)

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Overview

This episode features a long-form, hilarious, and at times deeply introspective conversation between Brian Greene and Venezuelan comedian/podcaster Nacho Redondo. Nacho, best known for co-hosting the phenomenally popular Spanish-language podcast "Escuela de Nada" (EDN), opens up about his stand-up tour "Traumas," the show's resonance with the Venezuelan diaspora, the responsibility of comedy, parasocial fame, and balancing creative drive with personal well-being.

Chrissy Hoadley, Bryan’s usual co-host, is notably absent due to a scheduling conflict, so the format leans hard into two-comic chemistry: insightful, darkly funny, and genuinely relatable banter around comedy, mental health, and the life-changing power of podcasting.

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Main Themes

• The origin and explosive growth of Escuela de Nada (EDN)
• Comedy and trauma: Nacho’s approach to stand-up as group catharsis
• The Venezuelan experience and diaspora
• Navigating parasocial relationships and boundaries with listeners
• The grind, privilege, and pitfalls of life on tour
• Creative discipline vs. burnout
• The enduring, unpredictable impact of podcasting

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Magic & Mission of EDN

• Origins & Chemistry

  • Background: Nacho and his co-hosts (Leo, Chris) were all part of Venezuela's comedy scene, working at Plop (a comedy writing hub akin to The Onion’s offices), and found themselves together in Mexico City after fleeing difficult conditions at home.
  • Natural Chemistry: They attribute their show's explosive popularity to their organic, deep-rooted rapport:

    “Our chemistry is really unheard of... we've done Escuela de Nada for almost eight years uninterrupted. Those two guys are the people who I spend the most time with in my life.” —Nacho (70:36)

• Cultural Touchstone for Venezuelan Exiles

  • Bryan comments on how EDN fills a longing for "a little bit of home" among the Venezuelan diaspora.

    “It feels like three guys, three personalities that we all know from our lives... tuning in to a little bit of home.” —Bryan (75:51)

  • Nacho describes the resonance:

    “That's the most common message we get... You are the Venezuelan kitchen with my friends... it just managed to connect with people who felt alone in the process of being new to a country.” (75:43, 76:19)

• The Show Outgrows Its Hosts:

  • Both note how the podcast took on a life of its own, independent of their original intentions or even personalities:

    “...the commercial break is a thing in and of itself and it almost has nothing to do with us anymore. I mean it is us, but it's like it's a thing and people turn it on and they rely on it and they want it and they like it.” —Bryan (79:06) “It's bigger than us... once the time comes to have that conversation for real, we have to respect it as it is. It’s bigger than us.” —Nacho (80:57)

Comedy, Trauma & Empathy

• The Concept Behind “Traumas”

  • Nacho’s current stand-up special “Traumas” invites audience members to share their most difficult personal stories, blending catharsis, connection, and comedy:

    “The show is about sharing and integrating the trauma into your current life and understanding that it doesn’t define who you are... but actually makes you even more connected to who you are.” —Nacho (17:26)

  • The structure is carefully designed with the aid of his therapist and psychiatrist stepfather to nurture, not harm:

    “...my therapist and stepfather is a psychiatrist... she was able to let me understand the signals that make me understand if I had to dig deeper or just step back in the most elegant way.” —Nacho (24:21)

  • He gives examples of stories that have come up—some tragic, others darkly funny, all deeply affecting:

    “One guy... Venezuelan kid... found a body inside a piece of luggage.” —Nacho (22:17)

  • Responsible boundaries:

    “The guy from EDN is not your therapist. You need to go see someone about that.” —Bryan (23:55)

  • The burden of listening:

    “Seeing it from a point of view directly from the person who’s a victim... it really saddens you in a way that’s very specific and very humanizing. You start to be more empathetic.” —Nacho (28:21)

The Parasocial Reality, Fame, and Fan Boundaries

• Nacho is frank about managing his boundary with fans and the illusion of friendship:

  “Remember, I’m your imaginary internet friend. So treat me as a stranger because I am.” —Nacho (34:48) “I've seen it with my partners... people come in like 'Hey, what’s up you little idiot?' and I’m like, 'Do you understand that we don’t know each other?'” —Nacho (35:54)

• Both agree about the dangers of biting the “fame cookie”—the most successful comics tend to be the most humble, and the striving ones, ironically, the most standoffish.

On Comedy, Influences, and Contemporary Observational Power

• Nacho’s earliest comedic influences:

  “Jim Carrey and Leslie Nielsen... I rented those movies like I was sick. It was a sickness.” —Nacho (46:51)

  • Reverence for physical and deadpan comedy, especially the classic “Naked Gun” films.

• Favorite modern comedians:

  • Matt Rife (remarkable evolution in writing and crowd work)
  • Anthony Jeselnik (“best joke writer in the world for me”), Louis C.K., Dave Chappelle (“a religious experience”), Bill Burr.
  • “Comedians that take themselves too seriously are dangerous because... the nature of our job is to be a cynic.” —Nacho (38:36)

• The unique observational (almost ‘last word’) power that comedians now wield in the political and cultural sphere, for better or worse:

  “Reality has become so absurd that the guys who have the observational power... are the ones who have the last word.” —Nacho (41:02)

The Unrelenting Grind & Its Costs

• On Tour Life and Burnout:
  • Nacho gets candid about the psychological cost of doing 120–150 shows a year, sometimes five times in one city, and how “a serious mental breakdown” nearly upended his career and marriage:

    “I was about to get a divorce...about to leave Squad...I was very, very...I’m a workaholic. That’s my only problem.” —Nacho (89:03) “I shut down for a while...I (finally) understood what it’s like to wake up at 3am...not knowing which city I was in.” —Nacho (91:26)

• Stresses of creative work and the self-imposed pressure to keep producing:

  “That kind of pressure, with no structure around it...is unique. Some people can do it, some people can’t. It also can make us a little insensitive to those around us.” —Bryan (94:40)

EDN’s Relentless Discipline

• The show has never missed a deadline in seven years, with over 1,000 episodes.

  “It’s not successful because we’re talented, which we are, but...the discipline and...professionalism is impregnated in the project. And that’s why it’s successful.” —Nacho (86:25)

The Venezuela Question & “Homecoming” Show

• The possibility of an EDN homecoming show in Venezuela:

  “No, I do not negotiate with Chavistas...No government is a friend of mine. Comedians are always opposing power.” —Nacho (101:49) “Once Venezuela gets freed—which is going to happen eventually...we’re definitely gonna do it. Both shows are happening in Caracas and the rest of Venezuela much earlier than we think.” —Nacho (104:00)

• The bittersweet longing for a simple home set:

  “…I envy in the most healthy way that you can go and do a show in your hometown, like a big show, and sit in your bed. That’s something so stupid to imagine but at the same time, so symbolic.” —Nacho (104:43)

The Enduring Gratitude

• Nacho frequently circles back to gratitude for being in the “miracle” position of doing what he does at this scale:

  “We are the product of a miracle...we were at the precise moment and said the precise words to make people come into our ship. I’m so grateful for that…it feels weird. I’m not comfortable being that person who’s responsible to entertain so many people.” —Nacho (85:58)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Comedy and Trauma:

  “...we laugh about it...it’s not bullying or shaming, because people tend to feel the show could go that route – it’s the complete opposite.” —Nacho (19:34)

• On Boundaries:

  “Remember, I’m a man. I’m your imaginary internet friend. So treat me as a stranger, because I am...” —Nacho (34:48)

• On Success:

  “My dream was a lot smaller. I traveled the world with my friends...the shows are full...what the f*!k?” —Nacho (85:47)

• On Fellow Comedians:

  “When a comedian in particular...bites on the fame cookie, that’s weird because the nature of our job is to be a cynic...if you take yourself that seriously...you’re an idiot.” —Nacho (37:24)

• Explaining the Impact of EDN:

  “People come and go...and it’s a little club. Maybe they pass away, maybe they have a big family. For whatever reason, Escuela de Nada is tattooed on their lives. It’s so weird for me to have that impact on someone’s life just talking with my friends.” —Nacho (78:31)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [16:50] – Traumas tour and interactive comedy structure
• [19:34] – How trauma is handled on stage, audience reactions
• [21:02] – Wildest audience-shared trauma story: suitcase in Portugal
• [24:21] – Ethics, boundaries, and professional input behind the show
• [31:00] – Nacho on empathizing with strangers
• [34:47] – Managing boundaries with fans/parafriendships
• [38:20] – Fame “cookie”: Humility vs. ego in comedy
• [41:02] – Comedians and the contemporary culture/politics “last word”
• [46:51] – Early comedic influences (Carrey, Leslie Nielsen)
• [49:24] – Modern favorite comedians, love for physical comedy
• [58:08] – On Dane Cook, Matt Rife, and evolving comedic styles
• [68:06] – Origins of EDN in the Venezuela comedy scene
• [75:43] – EDN as home for displaced Venezuelans
• [80:57] – “It’s bigger than us”—The burden & gift of a ‘living’ show
• [85:58] – The “miracle” and responsibility of their success
• [89:03] – Burnout and psychological toll of touring
• [101:36] – Is a Venezuela/Caracas homecoming show possible?
• [104:43] – The longing to bring his comedy home

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Tone and Language

The episode embodies TCB’s signature “cheesecake factory of comedy podcast” energy: high-velocity banter, irreverent and self-aware humor, peppered with deep, authentic discussion about vulnerability, legacy, and the messy business of being a creative. Both host and guest drop f-bombs, “shoot the shit,” and riff in both English and a bit of Spanglish, mirroring the fluid cultural realities of their worlds.

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Final Thoughts

This is a rich, open-hearted glimpse behind the curtain with a rising international comedy star who remains grounded, grateful, and fiercely principled. Listeners of all backgrounds—comedy fans, Venezuelan ex-pats, or anyone building something from scratch—will find a mix of laughs, insight, and inspiration.

For Nacho's standup, show links, or details on EDN and upcoming tours (mainly in Spanish), see the show notes or visit nachored.com.

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Transcript

[Brian Greene]

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[Nacho Redondo]

We are the product of a miracle. It's a miracle. It's not even far away from the concept of a miracle. It's. It literally is like we were at the precise moment and the precise, we said the precise words to make people come into our ship. And that's, I'm so grateful for that. It's just, it makes me so, so, yeah. It makes me so happy just being able to do that. And then I build the traumas to, like, the trauma ship. And also a lot of people come in from every single country in the world, not only Venezuelans. And it's, it's become such a, such a blessing. It's weird to say it because I don't take it that seriously, like I said, but it just, it feels weird. It feels weird. I'm not comfortable being that person. The next episode of the Commercial Break starts now. Oh, yeah.

[Brian Greene]

Cats and kittens, welcome back to the Commercial Break. I'm Brian Greene. I'm here by myself to interview someone very special, someone near and dear to the hearts, the Venezuelan hearts and minds here at the Green household. His name is Nacho Redondo. Some call him Nacho Red. He is part one third of an extremely popular podcast called Escuela de Nada, or also affectionately referred to as edn. They have sold out theaters, they have been all around the world. They have reached the highest heights of podcast success. And we have been listening to them here at the household for a long time because, of course, my wife is Venezuelan. My brother in law, Gutavo, who, you know from the show, is Venezuelan, and this is a podcast who has really struck a chord with those in the Venezuelan community, really around the world. But, you know, they're Venezuelan, living in Mexico City, recording out of Mexico City. The show is the podcast. But they have reached these Venezuelans who have been displaced all throughout the world and have become fabulously successful. And I've been hearing about it and I've been listening to it and I've been enjoying with my family members, with my Venezuelan friends, this show for the last six, seven, maybe eight years. They've been around a lot longer, I say a lot longer, longer than the commercial break has. We've even written into them as the commercial break, saying, hey, we like you guys and just wanted to let you know that we're rooting for your success. EDN has a close connection, like I said, to the family and my Venezuelan friends. But Nacho himself is a successful stand up comedian. Successful Venezuelan stand up comedian who's currently touring with a show called Traumaticos or Traumas. It's in Spanish, mostly in Spanish. I think he does do a little bit of English here and there, but it's mostly in Spanish. So if you are bilingual or if you are one of our Venezuelan listeners or one of our bilingual listeners, you can get tickets. I'll put a link in the show notes. Nachored.com is where you would go. He's also got a couple specials on his YouTube channel. And then of course, the podcast, which you can listen to and is publishes frequently just like we do. I don't think they publish four days a week, but I think they publish a couple days a week under the name EDN or Escuela Day. Nada. Here's why this interview is very, I say important to me, but I am so glad that we finally made this happen, is because when you hear someone that you respect and love talking with such respect, love and reverence about someone else or another podcast, you take note, you say, what are they doing? You know, what is. What's going on with them that's making their show successful and how are they connecting with their listeners? And if you understand Spanish and you listen to the show, then you know that not only are they really hilarious, they really are, but they have a special interaction between the three of them that moves through the speakers into your ears and then you say, yeah, that's why they're good, is because they have that magic, like where time and space just come together and it meets the moment and there they are. This, I. I don't know, like the almost. It's miraculous that they have this incredible show that's really. It's moved into a space in and of itself. EDN is its own thing. It's greater than the sum of its parts, so to speak. But one of its parts is, is here today, Nacho Redondo. So we're gonna have a conversation with him. We're gonna talk to him all about it. We're gonna talk to him about his stand up special. We're going to talk to him about edn and then we'll talk to him about Venezuela too. He's married to also another, like a fabulously successful Mexican actress who's very popular down in Mexico. Like I said, they all live down in Mexico City. They're out of Venezuela. I'd like to ask him about if there's plans to return to Venezuela, because a lot of my friends who know this interview's happening, and they're Venezuelan, have asked me, do you think they're going to have that big homecoming show? So we'll ask him all about that. Stick with me for this conversation. I think it's going to be a good one. Regardless if you know who EDN is or you know who Nacho Red is, I think this is going to be a good conversation. One mediocre comedy podcaster to another. Me and Nacho Red just shooting the shit. And for those of you that might be concerned, don't be worried that Chrissy's not here. Chrissy is out for men foe, and this is the time when Nacho could be here. So rather than pass up the opportunity to have a conversation with him, I decided I will do it. And, you know, let's be honest. If there's going to be a Venezuelan that's going to interview another Venezuelan, let it be this Irish Venezuelan, right? Am I right? Okay, let's take a break, and then, through the magic of telepodcasting, I'm going to have Nacho Redondo right here in the room with me on that television screen, and we'll chop it up, him and I, together. We'll be back.

[Rachel]

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[Brian Greene]

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[Nacho Redondo]

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[Rachel]

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[Brian Greene]

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[Rachel]

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[Brian Greene]

And welcome back to the commercial break. The favorite podcast of Nacho Redondo. Nacho, hello.

[Nacho Redondo]

Hola. It actually is from today.

[Brian Greene]

For this.

[Nacho Redondo]

Since. Since today it's gonna be now that I'm here.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah, yeah, of course.

[Nacho Redondo]

How you doing, bro?

[Brian Greene]

I'm good, brother. So let me fill my audience in. For those who may not know, Nacho Redondo, one third of the very popular podcast Edna Escuela. De nada. Of course, anybody who listens to the show knows I'm married to a Venezuelan. This is a phenomenally successful podcast in Venezuela, but Nacho is also a stand up comedian currently touring with his show that translates traumas in English or traumaticos. And so, Nacho, let me share you with you some of my trauma. Here you go. Ready? Here's my biggest trauma in life. I'm married to a Venezuelan.

[Nacho Redondo]

You didn't hit. I mean, I knew that from second one. That was your trauma. And also you're a blessing because that's the way it works. I think so. Yeah, but that's very risky from you. It's very risky.

[Brian Greene]

I know. I took. Well, listen, I like to live life on the edge. If I'm not stressed out, then I don't feel like I'm, I'm operating at my highest level. That's the curse of add. I don't know if you have that too, but.

[Nacho Redondo]

Oh, I do.

[Brian Greene]

For me. Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, I do.

[Brian Greene]

So this, this new tour that you have and I want to, I want to very interested in this concept. And I know there are other people, comedians and performance artists who have gone on stage and they use trauma as the linchpin for their show. But it's usually them mainly dumping their trauma as a joke or as a performance. You engage the audience in this. You ask them to say, hey, tell me about your traumas. Tell me what is the wildest thing that you have heard out on the road and you can share it here because we're.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Greene]

So go ahead.

[Nacho Redondo]

I will, I will, I will. And I'm not. Actually. It's, it's. It's very healthy to share this kind of story because it is what the, what the show is about. Sharing and integrating the trauma into your current life and understanding that that doesn't define who you are. But, but, but, but actually it makes you. It makes you even more connected to who you are.

[Brian Greene]

Agree.

[Nacho Redondo]

Actually, the show is about me, but the, the thing is that I haven't shared in my, in my social media accounts or whatever the part of the show where I talk about me, because that's the special. That's, that's, that's good. That's what's gonna be the my. Because people think that I only get on stage and like, hey, tell me your trauma. That's it. No, it's a very well structured show. It has three parts and every part has a trauma that's. That's in my life. In my life. A trauma. A trauma. For me, a trauma. My trauma in that specifical area. It starts with the family trauma that starts with like the, like the funny trauma, like the weird ones like I saw that body, whatever. And at the end are the, the. Oh, yeah, at the end. Oh, you're, you're gonna, you're gonna like this one. And at the end it's, it's the, the. The relationship trauma. So every, every aspect of the show has my own trauma. Introducing to how however this concept of a trauma it means. So people can also. If I do it, people tend to feel a lot safer. And it's, it's my, it's my response.

[Brian Greene]

They open up, they feel like they can relate. It opens them up on some level.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, absolutely. So one of the wildest traumas I've heard. And I am. I, I kid you not, I've heard the shows have been so. They're. They're so rich in like, emotional stuff that people tend to cry and people, they go up and, and hug each other and it's very, It's a very therapy, like, therapeutic approach to, to mental health awareness.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

Because everyone's sharing so. So like the worst horrible stories that you can imagine. And, and, and we have the license to not make fun of because that's a very, very hard difference. But to laugh about it, that it's not, it's not like making fun of or bullying or making, making it shameful because people tend to feel that the show could go that route, which is not even close. It's. It's obviously the, the complete opposite, actually. I've been in a couple situations where maybe someone shares an abuse story, a rape story, which is horrible. And, and I, I can't find the joke. And I'm very open about it. Like, I'm not gonna joke about this. And the person, the person with the trauma is like, no, no, no, no, you have to, it's. I give you permission. You have to do it. Yeah, that happened a couple weeks ago in la. Some amazing girl was telling me about an abuse story when she was five years.

[Brian Greene]

Horrible story.

[Nacho Redondo]

Okay. And I'm like, I'm like, dude, that's horrible. We love you. This is. And she's like, no, no, no, you have to. We had to find a joke. And there's somewhere. It turned out to be very funny. Not the trauma, the situation. Yeah, but for example, you asked me about the ones that have. That I have, like, more engraved in my mind.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

One guy, this one's in the funny, catch it category, but it's not the, the worst one.

[Brian Greene]

Okay.

[Nacho Redondo]

This one is a, is a kid, Venezuelan kid, who. This show was in Porto, Portugal. Okay. So kids, an Amazon delivery guy. Okay. Okay. So he, he turns, he, he managed to deliver something. And he's being himself and I'm like, I have to go to a bathroom. And he goes to a street and behind a dumpster, he starts, you know. Yeah, yeah. And he, he, he looks at a carry on that's there, a little luggage carry on. And he's like, this is amazing. I'm taking this man. So my house is, it's new, it looks great. And when he grabs it, it's like a little heavy. And I said, what the. And he opens it and there's a, There's a chopped up person inside, like, holy arms. And, and the guy was like, what the fuck is happening here? And. And he called the police and he even showed me the news article about the local news article. And he's like talking to the police, like. And yeah, he found a body inside a piece of luggage.

[Brian Greene]

That is insane.

[Nacho Redondo]

That's crazy.

[Brian Greene]

I have to imagine, like, I. Like what you said about this is that some people, they come to the show, they demand, almost demand that this be something. I need a healing moment from this. I need to find a way for my body to react in a way that is not so traumatic. Because we all have PTSD about something. Something traumatized us at some point. And like you, I'm a big proponent of therapy and have been going for many years. Right. Yeah. And but still sometimes our own bodies don't allow us the, the, I guess, the relief that we need when we get into moments where we're experiencing this or reliving this. And so they come to your show and they say, I need to react a different way to this. And I think comedy in that way, in so many ways is a place where you can be dark, where you can take the most taboo of subjects, where you can take the most fucked up shit and turn it around into something that we relive in a way that becomes maybe not pleasant, but we have a different experience with that trauma. We play with it in a different way. Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

And people are desperate for, to, to do a talk, to just talk to someone.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

And they, maybe they're scared of therapy or even because therapy is very expensive, maybe you don't have the money. And that, that conversation starts that like, need to go to see a professional. And I always say it always, like, have you talked to a professional about this? Most of the time are like, yeah, maybe, oh well, once or whatever. And it's like, no, no, you have to go after we talk here. And that, that's great. But you have to go to a professional.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah. The guy from EDN is not your therapist. You need to go see someone about that.

[Nacho Redondo]

Oh, very far from it.

[Brian Greene]

I wonder if you take any of this stuff home with you. Like, do you onboard this, some of this trauma, like emotionally, do you go home at night and you're like, holy shit, what did I just hear? Like, I just, I, I was in a room full of people and I heard three terrible stories and I'm not like the energetically you're feeling a little off.

[Nacho Redondo]

Oh, yeah. Well, this show, this is a very responsible, irresponsible show to do because I was, I, I, well, I talked a lot with my therapist and my, my, my stepfather is a psychiatrist. So it's a very well designed show with the, well, I mean, well, I had to be very, very careful with everyone that talks to me. I have to be able to feel if this is a door that it's closed and we can talk about it or, or if this is a very open door and I'm bringing the trauma back into the person's life. Wow. So I, I, I managed to design this with my psychologist, my therapist and she, she, she was able to let me understand the signals that make me understand if I had to dig deeper or just step back in the most elegant way. So this person doesn't get home again reliving this horrible event.

[Brian Greene]

Wow, Man. So really well thought out.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah. Because it's not. It's not like we do it and it's funny and that's it. And most of the stories, because I know how to. I, I've been in therapy for 30 years and all of my, My, My family members or whatever are psychologists or psychiatrists. So it's very, very engraving our DNA in our home. DNA. The. All the mental health issues. The. Even the. My. My. My stepfather, he. He always tells me, like, you should have been a psychologist, and I hate you for being a comedian because. And I. And I'm. And I sent him. I just did a show in. In tech, a couple of shows in Texas, and I sent him a girl that. That punch in the face at her father's funeral. She punched in the face and kicked out of the funeral her father's mistress. Okay.

[Brian Greene]

Very Venezuela, Very Venezuelan.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yes. And. And I. And she was like, very mad and whatever. And I, And I asked her, like, why is she more guilty of this than your father? And she didn't even, like, thought about it. Like, didn't. Why stir to her, yeah, why aren't you mad at your dad? And why are you mad to her? And even with that, I told her I was like, talking to her. Like, first of all, is he. Was he a good dad to you? She was like, yes. That's the only thing you have to be worried about. The, The. The relationship aspect of her, of her parents and how they treat each other. That's not of our business. But it's very different. Difficult, especially for Latinos to disconnect that.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

And. And I'm like, if he's a good father to you, you're. You're well served. That's it. That's what your father is supposed to be with you. That's your, your, Your next. That. Your nexus to him is that you. You don't have to worry about if she, if he's unfaithful to your mom or whatever. That's not your problem. And you shouldn't be there. You shouldn't be. You should be hitting anyone but your mist. Your father's mistress. Further.

[Brian Greene]

That's. You should have been a therapist. I know, I know.

[Nacho Redondo]

And I send that to my. To my. To my therapist and to my, to my. To my stepfather and that. Well, my father. Not stepfather, my father. And. And. And they were like, dude, it's never like, please go to college, please. And I'm like, no, I have a Great life being a comedian and an irresponsible therapist. But responding, answering your question, I, I do therapy weekly and talk about a lot of things that I'm. That, that I get charged with and.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

And I sort of. And it's very, it's a very, it, it's a lot of the things we already know happens in the world, but it's very difficult to put a face on the specific sufferings of abuse, of alcoholism, of, you know, all the things that, yeah. That you know, that the world is made of. But like seeing it to, to the fake through the, through people, to real people, it's different to read it or to someone, oh, someone tells you the story or whatever. But just, just understand it from a point of view directly from the person who's a victim of that. It really, it really saddens you in a way that's very specific and it's very, is very humanizing. Also you start to be more empathetic with everything that happens on your surroundings. Like, you start like listening a lot and seeing further into people's lives and understanding certain behaviors and you become a little more aware of how horrible and beautiful the world is at the same time.

[Brian Greene]

Well, I think you become aware, I've said this for a long time, that I think that the screens that are in our hands, the way that we, that we absorb a lot of our media in these days dehumanizes us or it desensitizes us.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yes.

[Brian Greene]

To the atrocities. When we see it on TV, running in a loop 24 hours a day on the screen, we get desensitized to the fact that, you know, there are, these are atrocities, there are human beings that are behind these things.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yes.

[Brian Greene]

That, you know, it's, it might be a one minute clip on a news story and you go, oh, that's terrible. But then there are people who live this for the rest of their lives. They have to absorb, they have to find a way to navigate through their own emotional bullshit for the rest of their lives. And we see it as a one minute thing. When you go in there and you see, I imagine when you see these people stand up and they're crying or they're dumping or they're, you know, you seeing it come to life and you're seeing. That's a person there that's been dealing with this all their life and they have a long way to go to get, get any kind of closure to this. I'm sure that it does like wake you up a little bit and then you become more keenly aware. I always think about this. I don't know if you're like this, but I go to, like, Starbucks and I'm standing in front of somebody who seems a little fussy or pissy or whatever, and I always. My mind always starts to put a story to why that person might be acting that way. Oh, yeah, yeah. They're having a bad day.

[Nacho Redondo]

Like you rewind the steps to get to the Starbucks.

[Brian Greene]

Yes. Yeah, I do. I don't know why, but I do that as well. It helps me. It helps me give empathy to the person in front of me who's acting like an asshole. Right. I say, well, you know, and. And then sometimes there's just assholes. Sometimes I'm the asshole, too.

[Nacho Redondo]

So that. No. And that. That's the tricky thing is that I can. I can empathize with you, but if you're not open with me, it doesn't justify being you being an asshole.

[Brian Greene]

Fair enough.

[Nacho Redondo]

It's like. It's like, okay, you're an asshole because you're. I don't know, you fought with your wife or whatever. That's. That's understandable, but not really so. Because the people that we're there, we don't know you. So you have to shut the fuck up and take your mocha latte, blah, blah, blah, blah, to your fucking house and shut the fuck up.

[Brian Greene]

You know that lady gets paid $13.50 an hour to make your bullshit. Just shut up and move on.

[Nacho Redondo]

To make a coffee that has, like, five lines of words. So you should. She should be mad at you and your wife.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah. Your pumpkin spice bullshit latte. Let me ask you a question. When you. Do you ever feel a weird. I wonder if some people in the audience who. Who make this connection with you, you know, they're big. I imagine a lot of them are big fans of edn. They've been listening to you for a long time. We all know that when you get. You know, when people start listening to you, sometimes there's idolization, and that doesn't happen with everybody, but sometimes. And they walk into the room, and now they're really connecting with you. Like, they're making a super connection with you. I wonder if anybody ever crosses the line. Do you ever get nervous that people are going to want to take that outside of the room and go, oh, I just, you know, I connected with Nacho on this level. So now I'm. I'm, you know, now he's my friend. Now we get to talk. Now we get like, do they take it over the line.

[Nacho Redondo]

I mean, yes and no. The, the cool thing about the, the Traumas show is that it, it has brought me such a wider audience that the podcast has. So I really drew a line between the podcast audience and my stand up audience. Even though, even though the, the, my stand up audience has been always there, even behind edn.

[Brian Greene]

Before the edn.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, yeah, I was. When EDN started, I already had like six years in stand up. So it. But this time around with this show, because of my podcast Persona is a little like goofier and maybe I'm more into the conversation between friends and I'm a little more like relaxed and whatever and I'm. And in the, in, in the Traumas scenario, I'm a little more tense but also loose because I'm, it's. I, I understand the language or whatever, but I'm also a little aware that something hard's gonna come through the stage. So people, I, I've always had this, people had this image of me because I'm such a emotionally responsible person and very, very aware of the limits I, I present to people, even my closest people, like, hey, you don't cross this line. And people are very intimidated by that part of my personality. So.

[Brian Greene]

Okay.

[Nacho Redondo]

I usually don't get that. That people are very respectful of who, of who I am. They, they, they come through, they come through me and they're, they're. Most of the people are very, very nice and very educated. And also, I have a lot of limits in my social media. For example, you can't write me a direct message. That's. I'm, that's closed in my social media.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah. So.

[Nacho Redondo]

So you, you only can, you only can drive me dm. If you, if before I put this, this. Yeah. This limit in my settings. Yeah, before that you, you, you spoke to me. I can get a message, but I'm very easy on blocking people. Or, or like, or like, like very. I'm very blonde on that. Like, hey, we're not friends. Take it easy. Remember, I'm a man. I'm your imaginary for Internet friend. So treat me as a stranger because I am. That's a very common. And people tend to like, wake up like, oh, I'm so sorry. And I'm like, don't worry. I, I understand that we had like this like parasocial relationship where you hear my voice almost daily and you think we're close. And I get it. It's part of the job. I'm not, I'm not. It's not bad. I don't I don't feel like it, but like, it's bad for us. But I've seen it with my. With my partners, for example. With Chris, for example, their people tend to. Because Chris is like the most funnier guy and he's like, more. But he's.

[Brian Greene]

He.

[Nacho Redondo]

He's a little more approachable in, like, the bullying thing. And people tend to get to him, like, and I'm usually there. Chris can. Can say this about. About maybe someone comes in and like, hey, what's up, you little idiot? Or whatever. And I'm like, hey, do you understand that we're not. We do. Do you guys don't know each other? Are you friends? And the guy's like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. Don't worry, don't worry. I get it. But be respectful. You guys don't know each other. You guys are not friends.

[Brian Greene]

Respect for the way that you handle this. Nacho. I have a lot of. Yeah, because we get it too. You know, we have a phone line and people can text us, and 90% of the time, one of us will respond because that. I feel that's my responsibility to the audience is. Is not to just have some silly, you know, autoresponder going out. And I understand, like, if you have millions and billions of people that are texting you, maybe you can't respond. But we're still at. We still can figure out a way and a time, but sometimes people take it too far. And they are. And it doesn't feel commiserate with the relationship that we have. It's like, hold on one second. I'm a podcaster. I talk on this microphone with my best friend, and we have these conversations that are going on. And that doesn't mean that you and I are best friends yet. Right. So I don't. So you need to just be respectful of that. And so. And it's a dangerous.

[Nacho Redondo]

And it doesn't leave the door closed. I mean, I have a lot of persons that I know that I actually. Very good friends of mine today that started being a fan. Like, they just managed to be very nice to me, and we had a lot of cool things in common. And then it's like, okay, hey, I'm in your town. Come to the show. I'll invite you, and let's have a coffee. And yeah, just, you know, and that. That becomes. You know what the thing is that when. When a comedian in particular, I'm not gonna say other types of artists. When a comedian really bites on the fame cookie, that's weird because the Nature of our job is to be a cynic. And if you take yourself that seriously, where you think that you're a star or whatever, you're an idiot. And for me, and, and, and you know, that's what's weird is that I've been around multi millionaire fame, like 15 to 20,000 seater show comedians.

[Brian Greene]

Me too.

[Nacho Redondo]

And they, those guys are the best, like the most humble, the most down to earth guys, at least the ones that I've known. But the ones that are struggling are the more assholey, which is insane.

[Brian Greene]

It's totally insane.

[Nacho Redondo]

It's ridiculous.

[Brian Greene]

I think that comes with like you, you're six years before EDN now. Six years, seven years with edn, phenomenal success. You, you move through that and then you start to understand, you can understand how someone can bite on the fame cookie. But you have decided that's not for me. That bullshit is not for me. But I agree with you. I won't say the name, but I just had a guy on the show and we've interviewed hundreds of people, comedians, most of them. I just had a guy on the show that has reached pretty much the pinnacle. Television show, movies, selling out arenas. Right. The guy could not have been more humble, more nice, stayed afterwards, said, come to my show, whatever, backstage, whatever, I don't care, it doesn't matter, all that stuff, come see me, let's have, you know, whatever. He was the nicest guy and it was the opposite of what I had expected. I expected that maybe a little bit of prima donna because of the success that he has had and, but he didn't bite on the fame cookie. And I appreciate that.

[Nacho Redondo]

Converse.

[Brian Greene]

Like you said, we've had people on the show who are not everyday like named comics. They're, they're popular, but not everybody knows them and they come on and they have an attitude and it's like, oh.

[Nacho Redondo]

Okay, it's very weird. And I get also, I understand that for example, if you're going up and you're getting a certain amount of attention, you start putting up shields and walls. That's because most people want to take advantage of you in some sort of way. I understand that. But if you're remotely smart, you understand that very quickly on who's in that lane, who's gonna try that, who's gonna try to be nice and just. And, and comedians that take themselves too seriously are dangerous because we're just. I don't want to diminish the, the things that we do because I live and breathe comedy.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

And I understand it as a Big part of, like, especially now. Especially now. That I don't know.

[Brian Greene]

Especially now.

[Nacho Redondo]

Especially now. And. But this. The history and the contemporary, like, world weather, if you want to. Yeah.

[Brian Greene]

Political ambience, political climate. Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

Has put us, the comedians, in a weird space and in a weird place where we are almost like the last word on political issues or whatever. And it's like, no, that shouldn't be happening at all.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

But it happened. And I. I get it, because reality has been. Has become so absurd that the guys who have the observational power to speak to things or about things are the ones who are. Who have the last word without even thinking the. For the possibility for us to be wrong. Which is what. It's happening a lot. I do not fuck with politics anymore because. Well, we can talk about it. I do. I can talk about it. But the Venezuelan politics are very specific, so I don't care. But I've seen it in, like, a US Politics, like, landscape. The. The one type of comedian and the other type of comedian, and it's like. And I. The. The cool thing about it, I have no opinion on. I understand every side of it, like, for real, and I get it. And I don't think anyone means bad or harm to the other. But what I'm seeing right now is a lot of comedians say, oh, I fucked up. And that's great because that's what's supposed to happen when someone talks and they say, oh, I think I messed up. And that's great. It doesn't define anyone. But now everyone's like, oh, my God, you fucked up. And I'm like, you listen to me.

[Brian Greene]

Yes, you change your. You changed your fucking mind. Yeah, I changed my fucking mind. I'm a human being. I realized the right thing. I said this to someone the other day. I said, it doesn't matter why they're saying I fucked up. They're admitting it. They're being honest, and that's all you can ask of them. They're fucking comedians. That's what they're doing. They made a call. It was the wrong call, in their opinion. Now it's the wrong call. And the reason why you understand both sides of it is uniquely. And I've also said this on the show, you're Venezuelan, and Venezuelan politics is very specific. And that history is very specific. And I kind of know your history, Adam. We don't need to get into it here. But it's. Venezuelans understand what's going on. The political climate right now, I think better than most. And so they are Wow. I think so. I mean, it depends on which Venezuelan you're talking to.

[Nacho Redondo]

Are you talking. Where do they live? Florida?

[Brian Greene]

Yeah. Do they live in the country or do they live somewhere?

[Nacho Redondo]

I mean, I mean, I understand that for example, this is for the people that like politics and whatever, but what you're saying is very true. But at the same time, because what we live was so extreme that the answer to whatever you're feeling is the complete opposite. And that, that does, that's not necessary. That's necessary what's happening in real life, to be in the exact opposite of things, of what you live. But I understand that you're there because it was so extreme and so hurtful that I will imagine it's for. It's like me, I had a, an alcoholic stepfather. So I, I do reject alcohol a lot.

[Brian Greene]

You don't with alcohol?

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, I don't without. I can drink a beer. That's. That's the difference. I think the example went better than I thought. I can drink a beer, I can drink a glass of wine, but being drunk, for me it's like, no, it's not. And seeing drunk people, I kind of reject that. So. But I can enjoy a beer and I can have a drink with you. And I don't with hard liquor, but in, in that sense it's like I have all, all the reasons to. Not with alcohol at all. But I, I do go there, but I'm kind of here where I can have a beer.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

That's the problem with most Latinos in, and especially Cubans and Venezuelans that have being experiences dictatorships and hunger and shit. That's very serious. And you go to the States and you say, oh, the answer is the complete opposite.

[Brian Greene]

And the answer is conservatism. Because he came in through the liberal door, right?

[Nacho Redondo]

And it's like, it's like you can go and make a, make a cool like mix of things and be happy about it, you know?

[Brian Greene]

Yes. My, my father in law who is Venezuelan, said and living in Venezuela, says it doesn't matter which door they come in, they end up in the same place. Right. And so extremes on both sides end up in the same place. And I think that's, you know, I think that's a good way to measure it. And I, I understand what you're saying and I agree with you. I, I have a question to ask you because I think you are a fan of comedy, like a historian of comedy. I think you take, you understand comedy in a way that I also, I also look at comedy through that lens, like the history of comedy and the way that it's kind of navigated in and woven in and out of history, really, it's kind of helped build history in a lot of ways. What was the first thing you found funny? I'd like to ask this question, comedians, what is the first thing you ever remember finding funny, like, in your brain when you think of funny? That first memory. What was it?

[Nacho Redondo]

Jesus. Well, I'm a big movie fan as well. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. Well, it's one of my passions, like movies and cinema in general. So as a fan of movies, and that's my. In my generation, I'm almost 40, so my generation was like renting movies, right?

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

That's why that was like, me too. So the first two. Two people. The first two people that make me understand comedy the way that I like it for me was Jim Carrey and Leslie Nielsen. Both of them. Okay, like the Naked Gun movies, there's nothing like it. And Jim Carrey at the golden time, where, where that. That couple years where he released Ace Ventura, the Mask, Dumb and Dumber, Liar, Liar, like that. Like an amount of crazy, amazing movies that make Jim Carrey who he is, especially for the ones who were abroad and like the international fame that that got him for me was Jim Carrey and Leslie, because I rented those movies like I was sick. It was a sickness. I already, the. The guy at the rental already knew me, so he always. I know I was getting something new, and I'm always getting Ace Ventura or the, or Naked Gun or any Mel Brooks movie that had Leslie on it, like the one that. Where he's Dracula or even the, the Robin Hood one where Chappelle is also that. Those, those movies, like, really shaped the way that. That I was. That my comedy and the way I perceive comedy in the world. That was my. That. If you, if you asked me, the first thing that made me laugh for.

[Brian Greene]

Sure was that for those, those Leslie Nielsen movies, especially the Naked Gun ones, and I mean, you can go all the way back to Airplane and some of the other movies too, right? But those Leslie Nielsen movies, he was a very serious actor. He was never a comedic, comedic actor. He had no training. No one ever thought of him as a comedian. And he played the deadpan role, the deadpan comedian role better than any, in my opinion, than any other actor, actress in history.

[Nacho Redondo]

There's no equal. There's no equal.

[Brian Greene]

There is nothing funnier than, in my opinion, as far as slapstick, quick comedy is Concerned than those Naked Gun movies. They are fucking hilarious. I watched them religiously over and over and over again until I had the jokes timed. I mean, that was the way that it was. Do you. Who are your favorite comedians that you're following today? Like, let's bring it present. Who are some of the comedians that you enjoy watching that you think are doing good work?

[Nacho Redondo]

Well, there, There's a lot. It depends on the style. I'm usually changing that list because I, I don't even have, like, a big fixation on having a favorite comedian. And until I see them live. And yeah, that, that for me, is, like, very. Because I understand that all. It doesn't translate into video sometimes the show of your experience. I'm gonna tell you a quick, like, very recent example.

[Brian Greene]

Please.

[Nacho Redondo]

I admire all the, the preparation and hard work Matt Rice doing right now into his comedy. Right. But I, I didn't. I, I, I'm not gonna say. And this is. I hate when comedians do this, but hopefully, if. What if for whatever reason he sees this, I, I want him to understand. I'm a big fan, but I didn't love his special in Netflix, and I'm like, that's great. Because he's so young, and I'm like, jesus, this guy is amazing. And his crowd work is just exceptional. Like, best in the game. No. No questions.

[Brian Greene]

I have to.

[Nacho Redondo]

But I do there. I just saw him in Austin. I, I went to the staping. I, I think he was doing a taping there. And the comp, the writing, comedy got amazing. Like, I'm telling you, this guy is one of the best comedians I've ever seen. Life. And not only his crowd work part, like, his joke thing, it just evolved ridiculously. He's such a great comedian. And I, I, dude, I was. My, My stomach was hurting on his writing, and that's great. That, that's, that's what I want to see. I'm always rooting for comedians. I don't want him to be bad. I'm always in the. And, and I understand that even that if that Netflix special wasn't for me, which, I'm not gonna say it's bad because he got it and he deserves it, and he's great and he has, but he was very, maybe too young for me, and I didn't get the jokes or whatever. But this time around, dude, whatever he's releasing, I'm gonna, I'm telling you, that's gonna be a legendary special because the jokes are amazing. But in. If you want to go back and like which ones are my. My go to comedians. Like my favorite ones in. In the world. I have to say, even though it's a complete opposite of my style. Anthony Jason Lake is basically the best band in. In the world. It's the best writer, joke writer in the world. For me.

[Brian Greene]

One of the funniest. Yeah, He's.

[Nacho Redondo]

There's just no one like him. I have to say that Louis and Chappelle are basically the ones that I'm. I follow the most. And, and especially the Louis. I have to say, Louis is. It's. I think he's the American comedian. No, no other like him in. And I'm obviously, you know. Okay, you get it. All of this.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go way back. Yeah, yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

But for. For me, for me, those two guys are just. And obviously Burr. I mean, like the, the OG comedians, like the ones that are always angry make me laugh. I can't. I can relate. I mean, even though I'm not. I have more control of my emotions than most of people.

[Brian Greene]

I feel like I'm. I feel like I'm funniest. I feel like it's coming out of me funniest when there's a bit of spice, when it's anger. So I get the Burrs and I get the Carlins and I understand that line, that lineage of humor, because there's something about getting charged up that just like the wheels are off the track and you just kind of go with it. And I know you know this too. It's like when I'm here and there's a good riff and, you know, we're really going. It's. It's mindless. There is. There's no thinking about it. It's just coming out of you. Right? And something about. Yeah, go ahead.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

[Brian Greene]

Well, here's. Here's what I wanted to say about Chappelle is that what's really interesting about Chappelle, to me, and I don't know if you'll agree with this, is that Chappelle has become not only a great comedian, but a great orator. He is a commentarian, an observationalist like no other I've ever seen, including Carlin. He's like, up there with Carlin. Those two make observations about the world around us, and they have a way to present it that is unique at some times funny, but most definitely poignant. That's the thing. It's point.

[Nacho Redondo]

I met. I met Chappelle at a show that he did a very small show in Atlanta, 200 people, something like that. And I was there. That was, it was basically. And this is, I'm not going to be, I'm not going to be able to, to portray what happened there. But it's a religious experience. It's almost like mass. It's almost like a church because of him and the energy that he puts it and the people that engages with him. It's a very church like experience and it's very interesting. I don't know if it's, if it's cool, but it's definitely something and it's, I appreciate it a lot. And the other comedian that I really, really like because there's a, there's a physical aspect of comedy that I'm always, always engaged to and there's two comedians. One of them doesn't get the credit enough. It almost goes as a fashion like sometimes every now and then he gets it. But he's the real goat and the real intern. First Internet comedian, it's Zane Cook. I mean Dane is such a legend, bro. And I really get, and I get the hate that he gets because I understand that he broke the Internet code first.

[Brian Greene]

Yes.

[Nacho Redondo]

And, and I get. And he was very hated on a pun and he tried to make that at that time where Hollywood was a little more, more like heavy, that Internet presence.

[Brian Greene]

Yes.

[Nacho Redondo]

He managed to put this big but he, he wanted this because this was what, what's what you had to make like go, go and make movies and whatever. And it didn't go as well as he thought it will be. And then he, he basically like left a little unattended like the Internet and comedians stuff. But for me as a Venezuelan kid who downloaded a lot of illegal. Because we didn't have access, dude, there wasn't, there wasn't. And hopefully it doesn't offend this thing at all. I know it wouldn't. But dude, I downloaded every single special and clips and I was very young and I was. Dude, I was screaming. For example, that Burger King like, like car thing.

[Brian Greene]

Oh, the burger thing where he's gonna.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, exactly like Whopp. Dude, that bid for me, it changed, it changed everything because of the physicality of it. And right, right afterwards, not afterwards but a little further. It's Sebastian. I mean Mariscalco is just.

[Brian Greene]

Dude, the physical thing, he's a master of his body. He's a master of his, his vocals.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, it breaks me. I, I, that thing that he does like with that, that, the physicality of it, it breaks me. I don't care what you're saying. I really don't. But you're so good at the timing and the professionalism of it. It's just magical for me. It's. I just. I. I saw. I saw Day. I saw Dana the Improv once, and I saw Sebastian at the Hollywood bowl at the Netflix. I think those big arena things, it's not for me, but I think it's.

[Brian Greene]

Difficult to translate of a physicality like that. You're just watching a screen if you're not close. Right. And that's. It's a huge screen. I remember how Chappelle used to stalk. I mean, how Chris Rock used to stalk the stage. And I saw him live here in a bigger venue, but we were up close, and that f. He's a master of physicality also, the way that he.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yes. You know, he's great as well.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

You. You. You. You brought Rock. So it's. For me, it's very difficult because I had so many stories, like, with each of us. I grew up.

[Brian Greene]

I love to hear it. Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

HBO specials. So. But for me, the first three comedians that I saw, like, religiously, and I got sick of just studying them were Rock, Cat Williams, and Chappelle.

[Brian Greene]

Ah.

[Nacho Redondo]

So that's why I am the way I am.

[Brian Greene]

That's the way, you know, listen, I. The first. Very first guy that I ever interviewed was Dane Cook. First comedian that I ever interviewed was Dane Cook. He was nice enough that I was a nobody. There was no reason to come on. And I interviewed him, and he could not have been nicer while he was. He was never my favorite comedian. I did understand why people liked his comedy, and the physicality of that comedy was funny to me. Like it.

[Nacho Redondo]

He's such a legend.

[Brian Greene]

Certainly was. And, well, he. He was so humble. Like, he just was, like, humble. He's also been through so much.

[Nacho Redondo]

Like, it's his story, brother's story and whatever.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah, yeah. Everyone insane.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, that. That's one of the. One of the examples of someone who got. Someone very close to him, got and took advantage of. Of his work. And. And that definitely makes you not. I'm not gonna say weird, but makes you feel. You want to be protected all the time. And I get it. But he had. I had. I. I only hear great stories about him. I don't. I do not. I think it's a. He gets the same hate that Matt Rice gets because he's.

[Brian Greene]

He's looking at those two. Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

You know, he's great. He's very hardworking, and I get that makes people I don't know, move A little bit, you know.

[Brian Greene]

Well, he's young, he had a lot of success. No one expected the success. Just like Dane. No one really expected Dane to do anything. He wasn't doing anything. And then all of a sudden he broke the rules. He said, if they're not going to have me on Letterman, I'll have. I'll send it out through my MySpace. And all of a sudden people were like, well, shit, here's free comedy. I just download on Dane. And he built an empire that way. Unfortunately, you know, he had to rebuild. All right, so you're a big music fan. I see the drums in your background there. Oh, yeah. Oh, man, look at that. That's a nice Ludwig set you have back there. I also heard that you went and saw Oasis not once but twice. Hottest ticket in town and Nacho went twice. Are you a big Oasis fan?

[Nacho Redondo]

Because I'm a big Oasis fan. Leo from edn, he got me the Wembley tickets for Christmas. And, and we, we. It was a very. It's amazing, an amazing experience. But I, I actually like. I love Oasis. I'm not gonna say I'm the number one fan, because I'm not. But I like. I love the lore of Oasis, all this.

[Brian Greene]

The.

[Nacho Redondo]

I think Oasis is one of, if not the best marketed band in the world. And not even thinking about it, they just don't know it like, that way. But I think, I really think that, that what Oasis represents, it's a lot of what the artists, artistry, industry really needs to start regaining again, which is a little. Right. Like, they have to be more rebellious and more like you. I don't care. I'll do whatever the. I want you. I don't do this for money. I don't do it. I just do it because I want to. And, and, and that, that kind of attitude without being disrespectful, it has to be.

[Brian Greene]

I agree.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, it really. I really miss that in the, in the, in the. In the industry in general.

[Brian Greene]

And they did it right from the beginning because from the beginning they came out with this winner takes all attitude that we are the next Beatles, we're coming to America and we're going to take over. And I was alive. I was a teenager when their first albums came out, or becoming a teenager when their first albums came out, a little bit older than you. And they just had this mythology from the beginning that they were, you know, kind of asshole ish pricks from London, you know, from. From England that were going to come over here and, you know, take over and the Truth was, they had the music to back it up. So once all of these anthemic songs started playing and then they beat each other up on stage and, you know, all this other stuff, and they let the. His. They let it brew for so long that.

[Nacho Redondo]

But the Lord get back together, Dolores. It's that. It's so powerful that Oasis wasn't even, like, a big music seller out of the uk. Your Oasis was big, but not this big. That. That arena all over the world, that wasn't like that. And he did. They didn't have that many hits as you thought of, because we're fans, we know the hits. But it's not like there were big and famous all over the world. But the reason they're selling right now that much is because of the lore and everyone wants to live through it. And the amount of young people I saw in the uk, not in Mexico. In Mexico, I saw, like, people my age and. Yeah, but in uk, the little guys, like, the young guys, the kids that they are being introduced by their fathers and their parents, like, this is me, bro. Like, understand this.

[Brian Greene]

And.

[Nacho Redondo]

And it was. It was such a cool thing to study and to just experience. And. And the lore is. Is that powerful that makes arena sell out in hours, even though they're not as. You want to be part of it and want to understand it.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah. Pearl Jam's a much more popular band from that age.

[Nacho Redondo]

I think so.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah. Of course. In the us. In the us. In so many hits and so many people. But, you know, they don't. They're not selling out. You know, no offense to Pearl Jam, I love them, but they're not selling out Soldier Field in Chicago to 150,000 people in six seconds. Right. It just doesn't. It hasn't worked like that because they have been feeding the beast the entire time. I agree with you. I think it's. I think there's a lot of pr.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, I just. I just knew. This is a fun fact. It was for me, like, a couple weeks ago. The Pearl Jam means jizz. You know that. I didn't.

[Brian Greene]

Pearl Jam means jizz. Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

I knew that.

[Brian Greene]

No, I had no idea.

[Nacho Redondo]

I had two weeks. I had this information in me since a couple weeks ago.

[Brian Greene]

Pearl Jam. If I turn now, I get it. I understand. It makes a lot of sense. If I turn this camera around, there's 12 Pearl Jam concert posters framed up here. I. Well, I had no idea.

[Nacho Redondo]

You're a Jeez fan. You're a jeez fan.

[Brian Greene]

25 nacho. I'm a man of the people.

[Nacho Redondo]

I am too. So fuck it, I don't care.

[Brian Greene]

Nacho is on tour with Traumas right now. The show is in Spanish, so just just to let everyone know, and I know we do have a lot of Venezuelan listeners, he's going to be on tour here in the us. I'll put a link down in the show notes of course, EDN is everywhere, so you don't have to worry about it. Just wherever you're listening to this podcast, you can go check out edn. Nacho I don't have I don't have to leave.

[Nacho Redondo]

I don't have to leave. If you want to talk a little more oh yeah.

[Brian Greene]

If you don't. If you don't have to leave, I want to talk to you more.

[Nacho Redondo]

Let's go.

[Brian Greene]

Usually close to an hour in a guest has had enough of us, and we may have had enough of a guest, but not with Nacho. Red the conversation continues. But I thought this was a great place to take a commercial break inside of the commercial break. As a reminder, get involved in the conversation 212-4333, tcb 212-433-3822 and please do follow us on Instagram for original content and clips at least a few times a week at the commercial break. Also, as mentioned at the beginning of the show, my new podcast, after the Break is now available for download wherever you're listening to this podcast you can get after the break or click on the link inside of the show. Notes let's take a quick 2 or 3 minutes minute break and I'll continue my conversation with Nacho Redondo from edn.

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[Brian Greene]

Let's talk about EDN for a minute. EDN is so incredibly successful. And I know I have experienced this myself and just let me share a story for a moment.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah.

[Brian Greene]

This show, you know, it has its fans. You know, I know we get hundreds of text messages. The engagement that comes through, right? That's when, you know, a show is really starting to take off, is the engagement and then the charts and all that other stuff. But we have never had engagement like the engagement that we get. Anytime that I talk about Venezuela, when I talk about my personal connection to Venezuela, my best friend of 32 years is Venezuelan. I became an honorary Venezuelan at some point. I was the. The Polones. Right. The gringo in the family. And then, of course, I married my wife who is Venezuelan. Like from Venezuela Venezuelan. And which city? She's from Caracas. She was in Caracas when I met her, and then she went to Switzerland to get her master's degree. So then we just. I follow. I chased her around, Nacho. That's what I did.

[Nacho Redondo]

That's what Venezuelans do.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah, of course.

[Nacho Redondo]

Two gringos.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah. Should I put the shit on the other foot? Yeah. Huh. United States, That's a great place. So I understand the power of loyalty from Venezuelans because now they follow me, they comment, they listen to the show, and it's been a wonderful, beautiful relationship. When EDN starts, you guys are just like three buddies that just decide, hey, we should do this. We're comedians. We could probably rap for a couple of hours. How did this all start?

[Nacho Redondo]

Well, it was. It was that easy. I mean, we were. We were. We were sharing the same city. Our. The three of us were in Mexico City. I was the last one to came here, to come here, and we were friends because we worked in a. In a comedy office in Venezuela called Plop, which is. It was like the. Venezuela has its own the Onion, which is El Chiwire, I'm sure you heard of it. That's the office where that happened, where like the El Chiweed was going on. And there was a funny page called El Mostacho which was mimicking Funny or Die at the time.

[Brian Greene]

Okay.

[Nacho Redondo]

And we were all part of that. We were writing the thing with Plop. It was like everyone was involved in every project.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

So I was. The reason I entered Plop was because I was writing for a late night for Erica de la Vega at the time. Time. So I, I was already into that TV writing space and everyone there started doing stand up. Every comedian, you know, was there. Like Led Varela was there. Jose Rafael Guzman was there. Was there. The guys from El Cortico, which is the other podcast that's also very successful. And also the three of us, every single comedian right now who is touring and it's a great success. And that's our school, that's our college block. So the. My generation that started there, Chris was there, Leo was there, and we all, all of us make a. Make. Made a great, like. Yeah, like a group of community. Yeah. And then obviously everyone took off and some of us went to some. Yeah, Miami, Argentina, whatever. But for whatever reason, Leo, Chris and I managed to land in Mexico City and I already did a pilot with Chris in Venezuela for a podcast before I had to flee a country because of the amazing democracy and the beaches and the mountains. I was just tired of it. I. I needed a little more chaos in my life. So. And then we landed here and. And Leo was the one who had the idea and brought us to a coffee place. And we're like, you what? What about doing a podcast with three of us? And I'm like, of course, why not? I mean, I was just living out of my stand up.

[Rachel]

And.

[Nacho Redondo]

And I was like, I can't. I can use a little more Internet presence and, you know, and some structure.

[Brian Greene]

Some purpose, something to do like, you know.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, exactly. Leo and Chris, a. In a. They were working in a. In an office. In a. In a. Yeah, like a marketing or wherever. I don't know. But I was completely, like, invested in my standup. So we started doing this and it was very natural. Our chemistry is really unheard of. Like, we are very different. We have our differences and whatever, but like the chemistry between the conversations we have. Well, we have. We have done squad for almost eight years uninterrupted. And with I. Those two guys are the one. Are the people who are. Spent the most time in my life. I'm sure of it, like even more than my mom. Not even my dad. Well, he wasn't there, so who gives a. So. But. But like, like for us was very easy and it. It was just a spark. It's. It's not. I. I wish I had like a cool story about. Oh, and I just managed to fall into a table and the microphone was on and whatever. It was just very easy for us and it just exploded in our faces. We didn't. We didn't. We truly don't understand that much what happened.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah. I have had conversations, long conversations with my brother in law, Gutavo, about edn, because it's obvious.

[Nacho Redondo]

Gustavo is your brother in law. Yeah, brother in law. The one with a small. Like.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah. With a small penis. Yeah. It's an unfortunate problem, but we're gonna see. We're gonna take him to the doctor and see if we can get it fixed. Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah.

[Brian Greene]

I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, there's pumps and penis, you know, extenders and all that.

[Nacho Redondo]

We'll figure there's dick do all over.

[Brian Greene]

There's lots of dick doctors. Yeah, he's seen a few. He's got. That's his future. Is a lot of dick doctors.

[Nacho Redondo]

Well, he's studying to be a dick.

[Brian Greene]

Doctor, so I think he's doing a lot of research on penises, if I'm being honest.

[Nacho Redondo]

I get it. I do it at comedy. I. I do comedy. He's doing it on dicks.

[Brian Greene]

On penises.

[Nacho Redondo]

That's great. That's great.

[Brian Greene]

He says that one of the. And I. I think that that Venezuela, especially the young folks, they are displaced people in general. Right. They're all around the world. And one of the things that Gustavo says is. Feels like why he's so loyal to EDN is that it's a little bit of home. Like, it feels like a little bit of home. It's three guys, three personalities that we all know from our own lives. And they come into a room and they talk about the things that we know and the things that we love. And it feels like a little bit of home. And these venom Venezuelans from all around the world feel like they're tuning in to a little bit of home. And you're funny. And then, you know, you talk about pop culture and the things that the represent this kind of larger diaspora. These People who are all over the world.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, that's it.

[Brian Greene]

There's a little magic there.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah. That's the most common message we get when we encounter fans of the podcast all over the world. It's like, you are the Venezuelan kitchen. With my friends, like the, you know, that we Latinos, we, We managed to have our conversations inside the kitchen. Even though we can have, like, the biggest living room in the world or a terrace or whatever, we're gonna, you're gonna find us in the kitchen. I don't know why, but it just. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's where the food is, but we don't cook. We just drink and have a conversation.

[Brian Greene]

Well, takenos in the air fryer. And after that, it's like, you know. Yeah, yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

Not even the air fryer. Air fryer is a little Gustav ish, you know?

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

But, but in the, like, like you said, it, it just managed to connect with the people who felt alone in the, in the, in the process of being new to, to a new country. And the amount of people who just wrote us, like you, you managed to, to you accompany me with those years where I had no friends and no, no partners or whatever. And now it's such, such a long time has passed since EDN got born that a lot of people that were alone. We are. We. I already know a lot of people who re. Who I see most of the shows, who I see. And yeah. On the streets or whatever.

[Brian Greene]

Now they have children. Yeah, yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

And they have a local partner, like maybe a Chilean wife or, Or a Spanish husband, you know, and, and that, that's, that thing really connects with me. It's like I was there when you had nothing, and now you have this family and they bring the kids to the show, and, and it really, it, it really doesn't come. It, it doesn't get any better. It's.

[Brian Greene]

It's got to be a great feeling. Yeah, great.

[Nacho Redondo]

It's ridiculous. And, and even this is gonna sound a little traumatic, but even people who are fans that died, and I remember them, I, I, and, and, and do not remember this guy. Oh, he had cancer and he passed away last year. And I remember those guys, and I remember those people who, who were there and then maybe come to my show and they say, oh, I lost a little of, of. I, I, I got lost a little in Escola because of my family. I have a family now. And I'm like, don't worry. You can come back whenever you want. It's like, it's a, it's a Little club where people come and go. Maybe they pass away, maybe they have a great like big family and.

[Rachel]

For.

[Nacho Redondo]

Whatever reason squad and I just was is is tattooed in on their lives. That's so weird for me to have that impact on someone's life. Talking with my friends.

[Brian Greene]

It's just I remember like three years ago, I remember getting this. I woke up, I get in the studio and I get this and I'm reading through some text messages and someone's telling me like they sent this like very heartfelt letter to, to the commercial break about how they were going through a bad time divorce, you know, separation with the kids and all this other stuff and they were thinking about taking their life. But.

[Nacho Redondo]

Oh, we got that. Oof.

[Brian Greene]

I'm sure you guys have had 12 of those, right? But we did that. And then I, I just remember thinking the commercial break is a thing in and of itself and it almost has nothing to do with us anymore. I mean it is us, but it's like it's a thing and people turn it on and they rely on it and they want it and they like it. And that's not the. I'm trying to be, I'm trying to humble brag a little bit here. But you know, it's a thing that we created two friends just shooting the and now people they are into it. It's got a personality of its own and I would imagine bigger than you.

[Nacho Redondo]

Guys and it's really nuts. They are than us. I, I, that I had, we had a great conversation a couple of days ago about, you know, what, what's the stage of each of one of us in their lives and what, what should we. Because right now, as we speak yesterday, there's a, there's a Colombian counterpart of like you, you know, there's a We, we managed to say that there's a squala in each country and I have to be very, I'm very, yeah, I'm very lucky to be friends with almost every podcast that has been brought up in, in every Latin America country that has become very big and very successful in Colombia. It's pero scrillos peros. It's a. But they, they just did an arena a 14, 000 people arena. And and they they it in that show they, they announced that they're breaking up and it's like we, we. That that was all the, the thing that we wanted to do is just to, to touch the, the, the top of the mountain, say thank you and then off and like that was, that's insane. That's. But that's so.

[Brian Greene]

Cool. That's what that is.

[Nacho Redondo]

That's inspiring. It's like this. The purpose of this. And we're. We've. We've talked about the end of Scott right now. Of course we've done it. But it's such a big project, and it's. And the thing that we. The three of us agree on is that it's bigger than us. So once the time, when the time comes to. To have that conversation for. For real, we have to respect it as it is. It's bigger than us. Us really touched a lot of people's life. I don't wanna. I don't take it that seriously because, like, it's not in. I can't do it. It's not in my. In my spirit to do so. But. But it really.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah, yeah, but it is what it is, Nacho. It is what it is. It's like you. You created this thing. You. You birthed this thing, the three of you, and now it's out there in the world. And a lot of people, you know, they are attached to it in some way, emotionally, spiritually, maybe even just to listen to some. Maybe they. You know, they may. They're hate listening. I don't know. There's a lot of that stuff. Yeah, you have. It's got. That's got some weight to it. And so when you decide the moment comes, I've always said to Chrissy, I'll do it until it's not fun. And when it's not fun, then I have to take seriously consider what's next. Right. But I also have to consider that there are a lot of people out there that listen to the show, and they, you know, we'll see. I don't know. Who knows? It might maybe five more years, maybe five more episodes. I don't know.

[Nacho Redondo]

I mean, exactly. That's the way to. That's the way to approach it. And the Pero Scarroja situation got very close to heart in that sense. Because I'm almost 40. We're. We. I started this in my very early 30s. I'm a very different person that once the podcast started, people are starting to notice it in a good way, not in a bad way, but it's inevitable. You change. You. You. You like different things, and. And people come and go and, And. And. And it's cool to understand the. That. That that impact has also a limit. And even in your life, it's also important. And if it's not fun for you, you should listen to yourself. And you say it's a. I hope that I. I don't. I don't want to make people. Bu.

[Brian Greene]

You're having a very. You're having a very honest. A very honest conversation about the name.

[Rachel]

Yeah.

[Brian Greene]

Of this. Yeah. This thing that we do.

[Nacho Redondo]

It's very important for most of people, but you also can't. Yeah. You're very important to the pride as well. So if you're not feeling well, if you're not being cool about it, it's not supposed to go. It's. It's. It. It's very. It's very interesting the way that you're committed to something that. That so many people are engaged to in that passionate way.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

You almost feel. You have to be very careful not feeling a slave of your own creation.

[Brian Greene]

You know, that's the difficult part, but also when you wake up in the morning, and I have to remember this sometimes too, is that the Earth has how many billions of people? Most of them, I would imagine in somewhere in their brain, they're going to an office today. They would love to have a show where 10 people and were engaged in that manner. Right.

[Nacho Redondo]

Oh, no. Right.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

Listen. I mean, we are the product of a miracle. It's a miracle. It's not even far away from the concept of a miracle. It's. It literally is like we were at the precise moment and the precise. We said the precise words to make people come into our ship. And that's. I'm so grateful for that. It's just. It makes me so. So. Yeah. It makes me so happy to just being able to do that. And. And. And then I build the traumas to like the trauma ship. And also a lot of people come in from every single country in the world, not only Venezuelan. And it's. It's become such a. Such a blessing. It's weird to say it because I don't take it that seriously, like I said, but it just. It feels weird. It feels weird. I'm not comfortable being that person. Like the person who are. Is responsible to entertain that much people. It's. But like you said, that's. That was my dream. That was. My dream was a lot smaller. I have to be. I have to admit, I traveled the world year, literally with my friends and by myself. And the. The shows are full and I. I do. Like, one day I'm in Argentina, and the next day I'm in Bilbao. What the. What the.

[Brian Greene]

You couldn't have imagined this 15 years ago. You would have never.

[Nacho Redondo]

My wildest dreams. And. And it's it's just because of. Yeah, just.

[Brian Greene]

How many days do you guys record? How many days do you guys record in a week or in a break?

[Nacho Redondo]

Depends. It depends. Because, for example, today we're recording two episodes and tomorrow we're doing three. So. Because that's. Because I'm on tour and we, that's. That's our, our. A little. Our secret and not secret, but we.

[Brian Greene]

Do the same thing. We batch record sometimes.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, but it's. Yeah, there is. It's. Escalana has never failed a deadline, never in seven years.

[Brian Greene]

That's crazy.

[Nacho Redondo]

I think one time. And it's because we were very, very tired and we were very honest. Like, hey, guys, I know our. But one time we've done more than a thousand episodes.

[Brian Greene]

Wow.

[Nacho Redondo]

So. So that's ridiculous. That's stupid. That's. That's stupid. And the commitments there. That. And that's the reason that. So it really. It's not successful because we're talented, which we are, but not the, the. The. The discipline and the constant. Like every, every aspect of us being very professional is very impregnated in the, in the project. And that's the reason it's successful. It's because we don't stop. And we, we. We respect the audience very much.

[Brian Greene]

Does edn. I know EDN did Netflix as a joke last year or the year before? Last year. Two years.

[Nacho Redondo]

It was.

[Brian Greene]

I can't remember remember.

[Nacho Redondo]

I think it was last year. I don't know.

[Brian Greene]

I remember reading that.

[Nacho Redondo]

I do not understand the concept of time.

[Brian Greene]

That's got to be like a totally mind experience to be running around and waking up in a different city every third day. And you know, I know I talk to all the comedians about this because it's the part that's the most interesting. My comedy lives here. I also have a small children. And so for me, I'm not touring right now. It's just not going to happen. Right. I want to be part of their, their lives, but I understand there's lots of people who do that, but that's got to be a real mind to grow to, to wake up every third day in a different city. I mean, that's just like. And it's not like you're, you know, at the Four Seasons on a beach, hanging out, you're in a room, you do a late night show, you come home, you get some sleep, you eat a cheeseburger, you know, you wake up, maybe you walk around the streets the next day, and then you get to get on a flight and do it again. Right. So it's, you're doing it for the ride, for that, that three hours you're spending on stage.

[Nacho Redondo]

Well, we, we, we've gotten to a place, a very lucky and deserved place because of our work ethics, where it, it's, it has become a little more comfortable. I'm not gonna be, I'm gonna, I'm not gonna like, I'm not talking about the. Oh, it's horrible. It is exhausting. It is psychologically damaging.

[Brian Greene]

Yes.

[Nacho Redondo]

To, to do. And in my case in particular, for example, we used to do big tours with Squad and then I go on tour by myself and repeat the cities all over for. I think last year I did Chicago five times. Only Chicago in different combinations, like with the guys. I did three shows and then I did by myself two shows.

[Brian Greene]

Shows.

[Nacho Redondo]

And then I did the 312 Festival by myself. And then, you know, it's, and it, because I had a serious mental breakdown in January this year when I was about to get a divorce. I was about to leave Squad. I was, I was about to go live at Oslo and just, you know, raise a couple werewolves or whatever and that and just die and died. And I was like, very well served. I said I did my best and I just called it and I, I.

[Brian Greene]

Went to the woods and you were feeling it, huh?

[Nacho Redondo]

Oh yeah, because it was very, I was very, very. I'm a workaholic. That's my only problem. And I really am a, I, I am the complete opposite of a mediocre guy. And it really, it really brings you to the, to the floor once you get to those places. And when you're doing 120, 150 shows a year and it's not in your country, you're traveling a lot, you're doing nine hour flights to do a small tour, you're doing. You're living out of jet lag, you're living out of shitty food. Because it's not because I can't afford it, it's because the time.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

Different. I don't have the time. And, and the flying, the airports, the. I, I think it's, and, and once again, it's such a privileged life. It's.

[Brian Greene]

I hate talking about this, but everything is relative, Nacho. Everything is relative.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yes, I get it. And I, and, and I, I try to, to, to, to land that in a, in a like a. Yeah. Human perspective of it.

[Brian Greene]

Sure.

[Nacho Redondo]

Because I, Even though it's fun and it's cool, I, I, I also get very, very anxious and very tired in General Last year I was like you said. I, I thought that was impossible to, to mismatch a city like to, oh, where am I? I thought are you stupid? I did have, how does that happen to a, to a Shakira, for example, like, like Shakira said hi Peru. And he was Ecuador. It's like, oh, how you're so stupid, Shakira. How did that happen? I understood that, like I, I understood.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

Oh no. What, what is it to wake up like at 3am Completely bathing sweat. Like what the happening and not, not like defining the skyline of the window. Like, okay, is this, is this Miami? Is the oh, where D.C. okay. Yeah. Okay.

[Brian Greene]

Okay.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yes. And I, I felt that at the end of last year and I, it, I shut down for a while.

[Brian Greene]

How long have you been married?

[Nacho Redondo]

I've been married almost three years now.

[Brian Greene]

To a Mexican woman, correct?

[Nacho Redondo]

Yes sir. I, I, I also like the danger.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah, you're also having trauma. I'm not sure which which causes more trauma, the Venezuelan or the Mexican wife, but we can debate that off air. You, you guys got married.

[Nacho Redondo]

That's going to be a great debate. That's a complete, complete episode of, that's.

[Brian Greene]

A complete episode where both of us probably get canceled and never get hired again.

[Nacho Redondo]

I'm used to it, so I don't know. But yeah, I've been married three years.

[Rachel]

Almost.

[Brian Greene]

And Are you in. When you say you're about to get a divorce, it's that serious. It's just like the travel and the stress and it's just too much and everyone's stressed out about.

[Nacho Redondo]

I just exploded in on all fronts. It has, it didn't have necessarily had something to do with my marriage or my relationship in general, but it definitely had the guilt that I felt of not being home that much. And my wife's also, she's a very famous actress. So when she, when she said when she's filming, it's exactly like me going on tour. Tour, she's out of the house at a time for or even in the same city. Like in Mexico City, she gets out at 5:00am and she gets back home at 12 in the, in the noon or like 11 in the night. And she goes like straight to the bed because she's exhausted. And we had to understand a little bit of her dynamic of each other so we can integrate. We, we also. She's exactly like me, like workaholic, best in the business. Business. Very well, very professional and very successful also. So the pressure she has is a very similar to mine. But, but we Managed to understand. Where, sir? Where's the. Well, we basically talk to each other very honestly and say we have to take breaks to be with each other. That's.

[Brian Greene]

Yes. Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

And, and, and we, we understood that mission and we made it happen this year and we went to Oasis in the UK and we did a lot of cool plans together. But the, the pressures of trying to be relevant, of trying to be working, making a living out of it, it comes from my mind. It doesn't come from me being hired by anyone. So it's a little, It's a different pressure. It's not, it's not, it's not better or worse. It's just, it's the, the anxiety and the pressures of being, being the one responsible for your money to come in, not in a hired way, but in a creating way. It's, it's very different.

[Brian Greene]

Well, I, I've said this to some of my friends. You know, it's like, you know, they have a boss or they have a thing or they have investors or whatever it is, and those investors are telling them what to do and putting pressures on them. My pressures come from internal. If I don't make it happen, it's not going to happen. Or if we don't make it happen in the room, it's not going to happen. And that kind of pressure, with no structure around the pressure, with no direction around the pressure, is something that is unique. Like, you know, some people can do it, some people can't do it. I'm not saying better or worse or indifferent. It's just the way that it is. But it also can be the kind of crushing pressure that, that you might feel if your boss was, you know, telling you, you got to get that project done or you're going to get fired. And, but we drive it in. It's driven in here. And that is a different kind of stress when it's your own voice that's telling you, I gotta get this done, I gotta get this done, I gotta get this done. And that also can make us a little insensitive to those around us because they don't understand, I gotta get it done, get out of my way so I can get this done.

[Nacho Redondo]

And I totally get people who don't get it and say, what the fuck are you talking about? You're in your vacation all year, you're.

[Brian Greene]

A podcaster, Brian, what are you doing?

[Nacho Redondo]

And, and it's. It's kind of true. It's kind of true. We have to, we have to give it to them. It's Not. I'm very. I design it, and I'm proud of it because I. I worked my ass off to get it. But I get it when someone that has a job that maybe they don't like, they say to me, like, what the are you talking about? But you're. You're traveling the world doing comics, comedy. Shut the fuck up. And they have a point. They do have a point.

[Brian Greene]

They always have a point. Because the truth is, at the end of the day, I'm very grateful that I get to fuck off for a living. That's it. I get to fuck off for a living. But I'm the one who has to get up and make myself fuck off for the living. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah. And I did 10. I did almost like 10 years of doing something that didn't make me do a dime in a completely collapsed economy that pushed me to a polit. To a. To a place where I had to leave the country. So it's not like, oh, it's been always like this. No. But I managed to understand that if I did that and if I survived, that I would get to a place where I can have my own drums.

[Brian Greene]

All right, two more questions, and then I'm gonna let you go. So I know you got to record number one, Andrea, who's a Venezuelan friend of the family, she wants to know, is Escuela De Nada going to. Or you. Specifically you, Nacho. Are you guys have specials in the works where you're gonna do something on a streaming platform? Is there anything in the works?

[Nacho Redondo]

Well, I. I recorded Traumas in Madrid. This. Okay, this. This year, so the special is done. But Traumas became very viral in the summer, so is the first time I made a conscious decision to repeat a show in a lot of cities. And it's been amazing because it's so new for a lot of people. Even though I have been doing this show for two years, which is completely out of my limit right now, I actually like to write a lot. I already have my new show developed, done, proven, ready to go, that it's gonna go next year, but.

[Brian Greene]

Okay.

[Nacho Redondo]

I do have a special coming out. I am negotiating if it's gonna be on platform or not, or YouTube, like my YouTube channel, like always, where my three specials live. And. And I. I. I am just more engaged now with the control I have with my own social media and content production and the way I promote my shit. I. I really don't. I haven't had the opportunity to work with a Netflix or an Amazon, whatever. With a special. I would love to. And I'm always very close to closing that deal because I have a great relationship with Netflix. I have a great relationship with Mo. I, I just. For me, I haven't had that experience of seeing how like a Netflix works with a. Yeah.

[Brian Greene]

You know, with this. Okay, so the answer is.

[Nacho Redondo]

But yes. Yeah. Dramas is done. Maybe I'll re record it because I added some new jokes along the way. So maybe I'll do the special again in December here in Mexico and I re. And I'll see which one I'll release.

[Brian Greene]

You can intertwine the two. A lot of people do that, right? They call them pickups.

[Nacho Redondo]

I can do that. The Chris Rock was the first one to do that. Yeah. But. But I think I'll maybe record it again in December because actually this is, this is such a. Such so childish of mine. But it's because of one joke that I want to read. One stupid joke that I. That I came up with in the middle of the tour in Latin America. And I'm like, this didn't get into the special.

[Brian Greene]

I love this joke.

[Nacho Redondo]

And it's really. It's literally. Dude. Brian. It's just one word. It's one word. It's one word. But it's so good and I like it so much that I'm about to dispose a complete production and do another one and invest a new one just for one fucking joke. I really do.

[Brian Greene]

Oh my God, Nacho. We're cut from the same cloth. I just recorded an entire podcast episode and I heard one joke when I listen, like religiously listening to it over and over again before I release it. It's like a special project I'm working on. It's an hour long. There is one joke, one, like one callback that I think I could do that would just be like perfection, right? But it's like they say, the artist never knows when the last stroke comes. You just never know. And I am considering redoing an entire 15 minute segment that, by the way, took me like three months to complete just so I can get that, so I could reframe it, so I can get that one thing in there.

[Nacho Redondo]

And I am not. I am not a perfectionist. I really don't. I am very, very comfortable with things not being perfect because that's the nature of being a comedian, basically. But this, this joke, I like it so much and it's so good that I had to put it inside. I'm almost. I always. I. I even thought about like, do I Recreate the, the stage just for this joke. And I dress exactly the same, and I do the joke and then. And I edit it in. I don't know. But yeah, yeah, that's it.

[Brian Greene]

All right. That's one more.

[Nacho Redondo]

But I had that one.

[Brian Greene]

Yes, one more. And this comes from a couple different people. And I know that the answer to this is difficult. It's difficult to pinpoint this. Do you ever imagine EDN or Nacho or the, you know, the guys, whatever. Do you ever imagine the homecoming show? Do you think that'll ever come to fruition?

[Nacho Redondo]

Oh, yeah, dude. We, we fantasize about it every day as you.

[Brian Greene]

Have you ever had, like, like serious conversations with anybody that could make that happen, or is that just so out of the realm of possibility?

[Nacho Redondo]

No, I do not negotiate with Chavistas.

[Brian Greene]

I don't.

[Nacho Redondo]

I wouldn't either form or no, that is. And, and we, we've gotten offers.

[Brian Greene]

Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Nacho Redondo]

Like, like, hey, you come and I, and we do this and you're go. You're all right. First of all, I don't trust you. Second of all, I have ethics, and I have a position where we don't. We're not friends. We're not. I, I, I. This is a very weird space to be in, but I do not with any government. No government is a friend of mine. No government is a friend of mine. Canadians are always opposing power.

[Brian Greene]

That's right.

[Nacho Redondo]

So I am not friends with you.

[Brian Greene]

You.

[Nacho Redondo]

I do not criticize the ones who take another. I don't care. That's me.

[Rachel]

Me.

[Nacho Redondo]

I do not go with you. So. And you. They damage so much people and, and, and also me. And, and, and make me suffer a lot. So we're not friends. So I'm not gonna give you, I'm not gonna wash your face and like, hey, everything's cool here. Yeah.

[Brian Greene]

You're not gonna whitewash the situation and say, hey, listen, and everything's cool because I can make some money and I can talk to some people that I haven't seen in a long time.

[Nacho Redondo]

It's. It will be such an, such a. People don't even get. How many. How much money can you can we make if we do that? And I don't do this for money. It's never been my goal. So the money just came in because I'm such. This is such a cliche, but I hope it really resonates with to artists that are seeing this. If, if you're really engaged in your very discipline and you have your work ethics very straightened up the money's gonna come.

[Brian Greene]

Yes.

[Nacho Redondo]

By itself. You're gonna see your account, you're gonna say what the just happened because you're good, because you're engaging, because you're working your ass off. So. But I really think about it once Venezuela gets freed, which is going to happen eventually.

[Brian Greene]

Yes.

[Nacho Redondo]

Hopefully in the least traumatic way. Look at that pun. Amazing. I'm a great comedian. In the least traumatic, traumatic way.

[Brian Greene]

Dramatic. Dramatic way. Yeah, that's.

[Nacho Redondo]

And. And we're definitely gonna. That's gonna happen and it's gonna be a. A great. I was, I was just telling my wife I deserve to have a second half of my life where I collect and where I, where I. Where I get not paid in money but I get why I desert what I deserve of being a cultural. That sounds.

[Brian Greene]

Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

[Nacho Redondo]

Yeah, I. I really want to have the. The I really want to have flag put into my hometown and say I am. I work this. I want to feel the people of my hometown to they. First of all they deserve the things that I've been working on for decades. And for me it's a dream just to be able to entertain my hometown and collect what I deserve of the hard working years I've been doing abroad. And I seen. I always tell that with my Mexican comedian friends when I go to the shows here in Mexico City, for example. And if they are from Mexico City, I always tell them I told this to Richie Ofarel at the time. I envy in the most healthy way that you can go and do a show in your hometown, like a big show and they go home and have a sleep in your bed. That's something that's so stupid to imagine but at the same time it's so symbolic and so nice to understand. I would love to do a show in my hometown and just being able to go home. I don't have a home in Venezuela, but ice home. Yeah, but you know. Yeah, and it's something that it is gonna happen. I'm not dying with that. I'm not dying without living that. Listen, it's. We're doing squad and I'm doing by myself. Both shows are happening in Caracas and in the rest of Venezuela much earlier than we think.

[Brian Greene]

So I. When I think about the Venezuelan people and this isn't. I'm not hamming up to the Venezuelans, but I love them dearly. They have provided me in some ways family that I didn't receive myself and love and support and loyalty. When I think of the Venezuelan people My heart aches. But I will never know what it's like to be ripped or forced from your country or having to move because there are no opportunities, or you have to find a place that's less dangerous. The Venezuelan people's plight is not one, as some people will think of. You know, I'm not going to get political about this. I just want to say it will happen. And when it does, I can't wait to be one of the first. First, I'll be in your. I'll be in the front row with you, brother. I'll be in the front row. Yeah, I can't wait.

[Nacho Redondo]

But we're not that close of a friend, so. So you have to buy your ticket.

[Brian Greene]

Second row.

[Nacho Redondo]

You're. You're buying. But I'll. I'll give you the link earlier.

[Brian Greene]

Listen to that. There are benefits of being fellow podcasters.

[Nacho Redondo]

That's a great benefit. Now, of course you'll go. You'll be backstage with us, bro. That's the way. Go. I love EDN and Gustavo, even if he has a. A very small dick, he's going to be there.

[Brian Greene]

We love everyone. Yes. Not only do I feel for the plight of the Venezuelans, I feel for the plight of the small penises. Gustavo, first of all, congratulations on. On your upcoming marriage and your graduation. Gustavo, we love you. And about the same, you're going to be a very.

[Nacho Redondo]

An amazingly dead doctor in the future. We really? That's great.

[Brian Greene]

Oh, my God. He is going to just. He's going to love me. Nacho, I would invite you back anytime, my friend. If you want to come visit in a couple months, you're going to be in Atlanta. Let me buy you a cup of coffee or what?

[Nacho Redondo]

Absolutely. Let's go, let's go.

[Brian Greene]

Let's.

[Nacho Redondo]

Let's have the hats. Lunch or something. I'll be there. I think that's one of my first theaters.

[Brian Greene]

Yes, you're playing the Variety Playhouse. You're playing the Variety Playhouse, which is a lovely, lovely theater in a lovely part of town called Little Five Points. And me and my small penis brother in law Gustavo are going to be there. He's already making plans to travel in town. So we will be there. I will text you. We will get together. Nacho Redondo links in the show notes. This has been a true pleasure, my friend. Thank you so much.

[Nacho Redondo]

It's been a great conversation. Thank you so much for having me.

[Brian Greene]

Me.

[Rachel]

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[Brian Greene]

Wow. Not only does that clock in at the longest episode of the commercial break ever, it certainly is by far the longest interview I've ever done. We've ever done for sure. But I think it was worth it because I just, you know, two guys chopping it up. We needed to talk. We have to get it out. Us guys, you know, us, we're emotional creatures. We have to talk about it. We have to get it out, get it off of our chest. We're yappers, us Venezuelans, even the honorary ones, we're all yappers. I think that's why I'm an honorary Venezuelan, because I can talk just as long, just as fast and just as much as any Venezuelan that I know. All right, there you go. Nacho Redondo. Thank you very much to Nacho for. For coming in. I'm sure he's now running late for everything else in his day. But, you know, when you're on the commercial break, when you're on the commercial break, you don't leave the commercial break to do something else. No, no, no, no, no. You stay. I can't wait for Nacho to come back. I really enjoyed that conversation, in case you couldn't tell. All right, Nacho red dot com. I'll put links in the show notes. He's on tour here in the States. Dates. That tour is in Spanish. So just beware. If you buy tickets, you might want to understand some Spanish or, you know, get on duolingo or something. Bring your tr. Bring your I, your earpod threes. And then he can. It can translate in real time for you. Yeah. And listen to edn. EDN is a really. If you understand Spanish, it's a really funny show. It's fantastic. They talk all about pop culture. They have really in depth conversations. It's not all shits and giggles. They go there. And I think that's why I appreciate the show. I know that's why Gustavo loves it. And to my wonderful brother in law, Gustavo, we love you. We know that your penis is big, okay? You're a tall guy. There's no doubt it's big. I don't know personally, but somebody does. And it's huge. It's huge, Gustavo. It's huge. All right, as far as we're concerned, go to tcb podcast.com. it's right there where you can listen to all the audio, watch all the video, all the celebrity guest interviews, the comedian guest interviews that we've done. They're all there, along with every other episode and your free sticker on the drop down menu and the contact us button. Also at the commercial break on Instagram, TCB podcast on Tik Tok and YouTube.com the commercial break for all of this videos the same day that air here on the audio and 212-4333. TCB 212-433-3822. Questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas. Okay, until next time, I love you best to you. I will say, I do say and I must say goodbye.

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