TCB Infomercial: Sam Morril

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Commercial Break – TCB Infomercial: Sam Morril

Release Date: August 13, 2024
Guests: Sam Morril (comedian)
Hosts: Bryan Green & Kristen Joy Hoadley

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Commercial Break features comedian Sam Morril, renowned for his sharp crowd work, morning show pranks, and authentic, no-holds-barred standup. The discussion centers on Sam’s new Amazon special "You've Changed," his experience with absurd gigs and press appearances, the evolution of his comedic voice, and behind-the-scenes insights into the comedy grind. Lively banter, irreverent anecdotes, and unfiltered industry perspectives dominate the episode’s tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Comedy Specials & the Challenge of Originality

• Host Bryan introduces Sam’s special ("You've Changed" on Amazon) praising its honesty and lack of ‘clickbait’ intent.
• Hosts reflect on how some comedians provoke for attention, but Sam’s work is “…just what he finds funny.” (01:37)
• Sam explains the craft:
  • “My crowd’s usually pretty good. They kind of know what they’re in for.” (15:18)
  • He strives to push boundaries, but not simply to shock: “Some people might call it edgy…I don’t call it edgy. It’s just comedy.” (13:48)

2. Infamous Morning Show Pranks

• The trio discuss Sam’s viral history of pranking morning talk shows with deadpan, inappropriate gags.
  • Sam: “It’s almost better when it’s a live show…but it’s on Zoom, so [my touring partner] had to just try to pretend to escape behind me.” (10:06)
• Sam shares types of TV bookers who inadvertently enable his bits:
  • “...the producer who hates their boss…Bad at their job, does no research, or just a fan.” (11:43)
• Memorable prank: A friend posed as a 'sex gimp’ on live TV, resulting in angry calls from program producers and Sam’s own publicist.
  • “Missy, you’ll never be on Good Morning Durham ever again.” (13:06)
• Sam draws a parallel between pranking talk shows and poking fun at his own family, especially his “very proper” mother. (11:11)

3. Industry Frustrations: Movie Reboots and Hollywood Cycles

• Candid conversation about unoriginal movie sequels and reboots, using "Twisters" and "Dick Tracy" as examples.
  • Sam: “They’re so uncreative they’re remaking bad movies.” (07:25)
• Amusing tangent on Glenn Powell’s sudden celebrity:
  • “If anyone’s an industry plant, it’s Glenn Powell…CIA was like, ‘He’s handsome, talented, we can control this.’” (08:45)

4. Handling Tough Crowds & Corporate Gigs

• Sam recounts a disastrous corporate event featuring athletes like Gronk, where audience members heckled, ignored the act, or just wanted free drinks.
  • “It was a good, like, 15, maybe 20 minutes to start laughing…just a knife fight.” (16:49)
• On the process:
  • “You just keep building momentum. After each little laugh, the next joke’s gonna get a bigger laugh…” (16:49)
• The catharsis: “They wanted me to hang after – I’m like, you think I want to hang with you fucking assholes?” (18:05)

5. Crafting an Authentic Standup Persona

• Discussion on “finding your voice” on stage; Sam credits lower-energy comics and musicians like Leonard Cohen as inspiration for his relaxed delivery.
  • “My natural energy is how I speak…maybe I can just speak in my natural energy.” (20:57)
• Contrasts with ‘desperate’ comics who try too hard to please the crowd.

6. Balancing Personal Life and Material

• Sam details the delicate path of joking about personal relationships:
  • “Occasionally I have a new joke about her that…she gets annoyed at first. I play it to her with the laughs.” (32:10)
  • Anecdotes about his girlfriend’s “talkativeness” and earlier breakups yielding comedy gold:
    • “I had a whole breakup set on Conan…She was pissed, but it was a good set.” (35:12)
• Honest reflection on generational differences and oversharing in comedy:
  • “Are we not the worst generation ever?...Grandparents served in wars, took so much to the grave, and I’m like, ‘I had a bad day…’” (35:42)

7. Career Challenges and Evolution

• Musings about the grind and unpredictability of standup, being one’s own boss, and how writing a new hour becomes ever more difficult:
  • “To do that [a new 45 mins] repeatedly, year after year...is one of the most difficult things in entertainment.” (43:12)
• Touches on writing for TV/movies:
  • “I’d like to write movies and TV…but they’re hard to make now…Standup is the primary focus.” (45:48)

8. Mentorship and Paying It Forward

• Sam credits David Attell, Gary Gulman, Amy Schumer, and others with support early on—but emphasizes the need to capitalize on help:
  • “You have to parlay that into something. Can’t just be like, cool, I got help.” (49:13)

9. The Role of Social Media & Touring

• The hosts and Sam chat about the double-edge of social media: direct fan connection vs. pressure for endless new material.
  • “Billy Joel can play the same one new song in 40 years…[comics are] expected to have a new act every year.” (41:33)
• Sam details upcoming tour stops (Miami Improv, Baltimore, Euro tour), casino gigs, and the hazards of performing in places like Myrtle Beach and Reno.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Sam Morril (on morning show pranks):
  • "I call the Uber as I’m going onto [the show]…I need a car waiting for me. It feels like a bank robbery.” (12:46)
• On standup gigs:
  • “Jews are just not built for the desert. I wake up like the hangover and the throat...” (27:06)
  • (on Myrtle Beach gigs) “Can you fix the urinal cake in the bathroom?” “Hey, I’m the headliner for the weekend.” (29:22)
• On personal life as comedy fodder:
  • “I've never dated a woman who talks this much in my life...I have to not listen sometimes when you speak because I would never have my own thoughts.” (32:25)
• On joke-writing pressure:
  • “You have to kind of be on yourself. Like, dude, write the joke…I'm a bad employee and a bad boss.” (44:10)
• On the generational divide:
  • “Parents didn’t love their kids back then, and we turned out so much better than you did.” (36:16)
• On interior decorators:
  • “This person sends me the first invoice…400 an hour. That’s twice what therapy is. No one’s committed suicide over not having a decorator.” (37:31)
• Host Bryan Green (on Glenn Powell):
  • “My wife loves Glen Powell...I have to issue an apology to Glen Powell...where did he come from?” (08:35)
• Sam Morril:
  • “Standup is the primary focus, always will be. I love stand up so much.” (46:28)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Time | Segment/Topic | |------------|------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00–05:48| Show warmup, intro to Sam Morril, Amazon special plug| | 06:45 | Sam joins; riffing on movie reboots & Glenn Powell | | 09:45 | Deep-dive into Sam’s morning show pranks (“Sex Gimp”)| | 13:43 | Discussion of “You’ve Changed” standup special | | 16:49 | Handling brutal corporate gigs & tough crowds | | 20:57 | Finding authentic stage presence | | 32:10 | Relationship material & pushback from partners | | 35:42 | On generational differences, oversharing, parenting | | 37:31 | Hilarious story: mom pushes $400/hr interior decorator| | 41:33 | Tour schedule expectations; pressure for new material| | 43:12 | The grind: writing 45 new minutes repeatedly | | 48:34 | Influences, mentors & “parlaying help” | | 50:19 | Podcasting/business grind parallels | | 51:34 | Wrap-up; social media importance, Sam’s plugs |

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Style and Vibe

• Tone: Irreverent, self-aware, with a heavy dose of playful sarcasm and mutual ribbing between hosts and guest. The conversation is conversational and casual, frequently shifting to hilarious tangents.
• Language: Candid, at times blue, but fundamentally rooted in comedy’s raw, relatable banter.
• Vibe: Listeners feel as though they’re eavesdropping on old friends swapping industry war stories—undercut with comedic roast energy and mutual respect.

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Bottom Line (For Those Who Missed It)

This episode is an unfiltered journey into the mind and methods of Sam Morril—a standup who prizes authenticity and sharp wit over cheap provocation. From avoiding desperate stage energy to lampooning local news, navigating brutal corporate crowds, and processing family pressures, Sam and the hosts expose the grit (and fun) behind great comedy. The result is not just an ad for his new special, but a celebration of comedic resilience, mischief, and the strange love/hate relationships with showbiz institutions and loved ones alike.

For more:

• Watch Sam Morril’s special “You’ve Changed” on Amazon Prime
• Find his prank supercut on YouTube
• Follow The Commercial Break and Sam Morril on social media for more content and upcoming live shows

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Brian Green]

Ladies, I just want to make sure you're aware that mansplaining is short for man explaining. On this episode of the commercial break.

[Sam Morrill]

A couple times. I remember doing it for a week. Like, I will never do this again. But, you know, the next year, summer's dry. You're like, all right, I'll do this again. Yeah, I do that with a lot of clubs. Myrtle Beach, I'm like, fuck this city. I'll never be back. And then I'm just like, to my age, I'm like, can we get that, Myrtle? I think that guy liked. The next episode of the commercial break starts now.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, boy. Oh, yeah. Catholic kittens. Welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is the Lang to my stern, Kristen Joy Hoadley. Best to you, Chris.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Bestie Brian.

[Brian Green]

And best to you out there in the podcast universe. Today is a TCB infomercial Tuesday. Could not be more excited to have Sam Morrill joining us on the show today. One of my favorite stand up comics. I love his humor doing what he does today. He is. He's a comic. He's a bold comic. Check out his brand new special on Amazon. You've changed. I've changed. Yeah, everybody's changed on Amazon. And to be honest with you, it was really funny. He was.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I know this.

[Brian Green]

I watched like five minutes of it and I told Astrid. I was like, you got to watch this special.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And then she watched five minutes of it and was like, wow. He goes at it. And I was like, he does go at it. That's kind of comic. I like. Yeah, he walks a tight. He walks a high rope. But I get the sense that Sam is not one of those guys who's looking for. It's not clickbait. He is. That's actually what he.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, like, he tried to be. Yeah. But he.

[Brian Green]

And there are a lot of those comics out there who are just, you know, pushing buttons to push buttons. But that's not Sam. Sam is doing what he finds funny. There's actually a moment, and I don't. You know, I hate to, like, ever since someone yelled at me for it. I hate to tell other people's jokes as they're coming on the show. We'll leave that. Just bury that one for right now. But anyway, um, there's a point in the show where Sam starts talking about something and he gets an instant reaction from, like, two people in the crowd. They're like, oh, don't go there. Or whatever they say. And he goes, you realize this is a comedy show. Right. There's like a punchline. It's gonna turn. You understand it.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Exactly.

[Brian Green]

And so I get the sense that Sam just does what he finds funny. And I appreciate that. There's a lot of honesty and authenticity to what Sam does. If you haven't seen Sam, go check him out. Sam morrill.com and then you can check out his brand new Amazon special, you've changed on. On Prime. I also want to share that Sam does. One of the reason why I like, connected with Sam was he had this viral moment, probably right at the beginning of the pandemic, maybe right before the pandemic, where he went on a morning show, like a local morning show, and he tells the story. I've read it in a, like a trade rag or something. He tells the story that he was just like tired, not, not really interested in doing a nut. Yet another local morning show where they ask you all the boring questions. Welcome to the commercial break, Sam. And.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

This is your life. This is your life in five minutes.

[Brian Green]

In five minutes on the show. Yes. Yeah. And so someone asks the. One of the journalists. Journalists, quote, unquote, one of the newscasters on the morning show asked him a question like, hey, man, have you always been funny? So have you always been funny? And Sam's like, no, I don't think I've always been funny, but I did get molested by an uncle once and he funny. So I think I kind of. I think I got it like a spider man thing. I just got it through my blood.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And ever since, Sam has been doing this prank on local morning shows.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It's really funny. No one knows what to say. Well, the, like, we. There were three types of people, right? One that would try and keep up with the joke.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Or either the people that.

[Brian Green]

People that just had no clue what was going on. And so they would react like almost like a deer in headlights. Yes. They didn't really know how to take it. They just move on to the next question as if he didn't say what he said. Like, there's one. And maybe I'll ask him about this. There's one where he's in a tour bus. He's doing like a video call in, right? He's in a tour bus. They ask him how the tour's going. He says, yeah, this tour we're doing great. You know, we really decided to stay on the healthy kick. We're eating lots of vegetables. We're not doing as much drinking. And then he turns the camera just enough so in the side you can see the guy that he's touring with is doing lines on the tour bus. So the newscaster just keeps asking questions as if nothing happened. That's the one where he's in the airport and he's got the same comic that's touring with him is wrapped up in black tape with handcuffs on because, well, I like to bring my sex skimper. And they don't know what to do with it. They don't. Number two is they cut away right away. They're like, well, thanks Sam Morrill for coming. He'll be at the Funny Bone, you know, on Tuesday at 8:30. That's like, you know, get the fuck out of this segment. And then there's the third kind, which tries to keep up with Sam. And you know, that's not their daytime job. Their daytime job is being a smart ass for a living. So they don't do too good. He's great, man. You should go check it out. Super Cut on YouTube of all of his morning show pranks. And I could watch it. I am excited to talk to Sam. So without further delay, let's do this. Let's. Let's. Awkward transition phase, everybody. I should have a. I should have like a little noise for that. Yeah, Awkward transition phase. Let's do this, Chrissy. Let's take a short break. Then when we come back, we'll be here with the great Sam Morrill. Talk about his brand new comedy special on Amazon. You've changed. And all the other shenanigans that he's up to with those with those morning shows. Sound good to you? Sounds good to me. We'll be back after I get the commercial set up. There we go. We'll be back now.

[Christina]

Okay, you guys, I have an idea. Why don't we take a break? Gotcha. This is the break and you already know when you hear my sexy voice, it's time to whip your phone out and follow us on Instagra. Or skip the ads at the commercial break and on TikTok at TCB podcast. And of course, you know, if you want to get involved, you can always give us a call or text us at 212-4333, TCB. That is 212-433-3822. And guess what? I finally have information on TCB Live. So the links are in the show notes. But let me tell you right now, you can come see us at Dania beach improv on Tuesday, September 24, or at the Funny Bone Orlando on Wednesday, September 25. It's gonna be fab. So Go buy your tickets and we'll see you in Florida.

[Brian Green]

Sam, thanks so much for being with us today. We really appreciate it. Good morning. How are you?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Hello.

[Brian Green]

Just came on and we were talking about how we had a huge negative reaction to my rant about how creativity in movies is dead and everybody's trying to squeeze the la. Ever life out of every dumb movie that ever happened. Like Twisters. No one asked for it. And we got people texting us left and right, being like, hey, man, Twister's just a great movie. No, it wasn't. Never was a great movie.

[Sam Morrill]

I mean, the original Twister sucked. And, you know, Bill Paxton was a great actor. I agreed.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Love him.

[Sam Morrill]

And Philip Seymour Hoffman's got a great little role in it. But, like, the movie sucks.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

They're so uncreative that they're remaking bad movies.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Yes. I told Chrissy I wouldn't be surprised if someone is dreaming up Dick Tracy too over there. I mean, what the fuck are we asking for? It's the dumbest thing.

[Sam Morrill]

Like, that's the one we're like, by the way, if it didn't work with Warren Beatty and Albert Madonna.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yes.

[Sam Morrill]

Great actor, Madonna. You're right. She's so good.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

No, if she didn't carry it, that.

[Sam Morrill]

Movie is one of those movies that looks so cool and just sucked.

[Brian Green]

It did.

[Sam Morrill]

Warren Beatty was the. I mean, he was the man.

[Brian Green]

He was a legendary Coxman, like, renaissance dude. I was. It's commercial break. Listeners will know that Brian decided, in his infinite wisdom, at 13 or 14 years old, whenever that movie came out, that I would start collecting Dick Tracy memorabilia. It did in the. You know, they had the McDonald's and.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

All the comic books.

[Brian Green]

It was fucking everywhere. But the movie did suck. It was the worst movie ever. But I agree with you about, like, Twisters. No one asked for it. And now it's just like, I feel like it's a showcase for Glen Powell to take off his shirt again. Like, I mean, what do we really. And Glenn.

[Sam Morrill]

Now we're just cock blocking Housewives, though. We're like, again, he's taking off his shirt and they're like, dude, we have nothing. Was Glen Powell.

[Brian Green]

That's true. You know, my wife loves Glen Powell. I had to. I have to. If you. An apology to Glen Powell because I ripped off the guy, but I'm like, I don't know where he came from. Where did Glenn come from?

[Sam Morrill]

I will say. If anyone is. I said this to you before. If anyone's like an industry plant, it is Glenn Powell?

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

CIA was like, he's handsome, talented. We can control this. Because he was a dude that kind of came out of nowhere. They'd be like, glenn Powell in A New Romance. And I'd be like, who the fuck is this guy?

[Brian Green]

I know.

[Sam Morrill]

Like, I feel like he just, like, kind of came out, and of course, he had, like, a journey because he was in, like, movies. But then they're like, he was in the Dark Knight, and I'm like, did they edit him into the Dark Night? Like, they might have, like, just put him in. In post.

[Brian Green]

And, like, wait, hold on. Glenn Powell is in Dark Knight?

[Sam Morrill]

He gets the shit kicked out of him. And, like, the first scene in the bank, and I. And I. I could be wrong, but, like, does anyone have, like, an original Dark Night? Because I feel like they put him in, like, two years. This was him then.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. He has a long, storied career in Hollywood. He was a d. Sam, I got to tell you, man, you're. One of my favorite things in the world is when a new Sam morning show bit comes out.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I know you talk about this all.

[Brian Green]

The time, but I got to. I got to address the Sex Gimp. So for those of you that may not be aware, there are super cuts of Sam going on local morning television talk shows, and I think just fudgeing. Just fudgeing with them. Just fudgeing with them in the most amazing and funny ways.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

They don't know what to do.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, my favorite might be Sex Gimp, but the other one that my favorite is.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, that's my. That's my. One of my best friends, Gary Veder, and we tour together, and I one day was like, hey, would you mind being, like, a gimmick on morning news? And just like, we did it. It's almost better when it's a live show, but it's on Zoom. So he had to just, like, try to pretend to escape behind me.

[Brian Green]

And didn't you have him in an airport once? He was.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Guys were in the Delta Club.

[Sam Morrill]

We got some looks. People were like, why is there a guy with tape over his mouth tied up in the Delta Lounge? I was like, I'm doing Buffalo morning television. But they usually laugh, but everyone. So that guy did not find it funny at all. Like, was still. Because my friend did that morning show weeks later. And Rachel Feinstein, who's like, yeah, we had her on.

[Brian Green]

And she.

[Sam Morrill]

And. And he was. He was like, do you know Sam or El? She's like, oh, yeah. He's like, my. He's like my brother, we're so close. And then he goes, I hate him. Oh, I forgot you did the gimp sex slave gag on his. But. But it's just like a. It's just so stupid because it's like there's nothing they can do.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

No, no, because it's live.

[Sam Morrill]

So I just think it's funny when they want, they're expecting this, like, buttoned up, proper interview. It just reminds me of my childhood because my mom is just a very proper woman and I would just do whatever horrible thing to shock her.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

You know, but that's like what got me into comedy is like Rodney Dangerfield walking into, like the Stiff Country Club and being like, yeah, I bet you were something before electricity, you know.

[Brian Green]

Hey, Wang, what's up with the pictures?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, so I love doing the morning shows. It is hard as hell to get booked on them these days.

[Brian Green]

Damn it. Pam hates you, doesn't she?

[Sam Morrill]

There's three types of people that get me booked on the. It's like the producer who hates their boss and is, like, looking to get fired.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, nice.

[Sam Morrill]

Nancy Grace who like the Animals on. And she was like, what's that? And they're like, I quit. That was. You know, that's one type of person that will book me. Another one is like, the just is so bad at their job, they do no research.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

And the third is just like. I think that's it, actually.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

The third is maybe like just a fan who is like, they'll get it. It's funny. But they're like, nah, they won't. They. But when they do get it, it's so much funnier.

[Brian Green]

I think I agree with you 100%. Like, I was. Chrissy and I were talking about this last week. I was like, I think there's probably. There's like two reactions to Sam. Three reactions, actually. One is they have no fucking clue what's going on. And they're like a deer in the headlights just trying to, you know, like, muddle through. Number two is they're so shocked they want to get out quickly. Or number three, they try to hold their own with you. And that is one of the ones that are some of the most funny because it's like, you're not going to go toe to toe with Sam.

[Sam Morrill]

Well, because they can't because it's their job. Yeah, yeah. I've always said it's like, it feels like a bank robbery. I call the Uber as I'm going on to this. I need a car waiting for me because they're not going to be.

[Brian Green]

My favorite is when one of my favorites is when you're in the tour bus and Gary is in the back doing the lines of blow.

[Sam Morrill]

That was a good one. I mean, that got us Pam. My publicist had to deal with a pretty angry call from a gay Durham producer who just said, missy, you'll never be on Good Morning Durham ever again.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Damn.

[Sam Morrill]

And then we just play Pam. Like we would just videotape everything happening after. And we play Pam calling me on speakerphone, being like, do you know how.

[Brian Green]

Much trouble I keep?

[Sam Morrill]

And I'm like, well, you could stop working with me. So now it's fine.

[Brian Green]

No, Pam's a sweetheart. We know. We know Pam. We love Pam, actually. So you've got your new Amazon special out.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, my God, it's so funny.

[Brian Green]

It's ball busting, man.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It really is. From beginning to end.

[Brian Green]

Can I share? What I really like about you is that I don't. I think you're a comic who just, you know, something's funny and you go for it and it doesn't matter. I mean, I guess maybe it matters, but if it's interesting to you and the subject matter is there, you go for it. And that makes you, you know, I would like to say a little bit. Some people might call it edgy. I don't call it edgy. It's just comedy. You're just being funny.

[Sam Morrill]

You point out when people say that. But it's. Yeah, it's. Look, it matters. Sometimes when you're working it out, it matters because when those jokes miss, there's just like, what the is wrong with you? I have a new chunk I'm working on and people are like, like, it. I. I was like, wow, eight minutes. And I was like, I guess this is pretty Holocaust heavy. But it doesn't hit you when you're writing it. You're just writing jokes and you're like, these are funny. This next line works. And then you're up there and you're like, oh, I gotta. I gotta find a.

[Brian Green]

A funny joke. Yeah, I gotta find something.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Green]

Do you. What is like the. Do you remember, like, a specific crowd, a reaction where you were like, holy shit, I am just out here in left field and I gotta pull it back with people, like, yelling at you, because I imagine that some of your material people are so sensitive these days. Like, they're so sensitive about every little thing. And that's fine, whatever. That's their opinion. But they don't have to ruin the comedy show for it. But I see. Like, I also watch a lot of your crowd work, and, you know, sometimes you get some pretty rowdy reactions.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, I think I tape, like, every show for the most part, because I only really go up at the Comedy Cellar in New York and then the road. I usually have a camera guy with me just because you never know what's gonna. Because, like, the one time I don't tape, something incredible happened.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

You know, and then. Yeah. Usually it's not my crowd, so. My crowd's usually pretty good. I feel like there's a good connection with my crowd. They kind of know what they're in for. But. Yeah, I did a corporate gig a while back, and it was like.

[Brian Green]

They.

[Sam Morrill]

Paid me really well, so I was kind of like, in my head, I'm like, if I bomb, I'm cool with it.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Because whatever. I'm getting the check.

[Sam Morrill]

Moved apartments. I kind of want to. I want to get some stuff. So I'm like. I'm like, oh, well, this will pay for this and this room and that. You know, I'm like, just doing the math as I'm bombing. And. Yeah. Some guy, like, it was just a weird corporate gig. It was like, me and Gronk, the football player.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

And he's, like, paid to party with them. And I'm like, lucky you. You just have to fucking chug beers with him. I gotta make him laugh. So he's just like, you know, doing chugs.

[Brian Green]

And, like, he's got a funnel. Carries with a funnel. Like, oh, dude, he was.

[Sam Morrill]

He was awesome, too. He's so nice. But. Yeah, but then I had to go up there and I was like, wow, this was a tough gig. Literally, they're just all talking. So it's like a theater in San Antonio. So funny. I think Rogan's filming his new special there. And I was like, it's a beautiful theater, but my memory of this theater is just fucking. Just a knife fight. And they're just, yo. At one point, guy, two minutes in is like, you suck. I'm like, in my head, I'm like, this guy doesn't know how hard this is. Cause no one's listening to me. So I'm like, my energy is not. I'm not like, a desperate energy comic, but I also have done enough hell gigs that I know how to turn it.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

I'm like, in my head, I'm like, just keep zinging. Get this guy, get this person. Keep building momentum. And after each little laugh, the next joke's gonna get a bigger laugh. And you just keep building momentum. But it was a good, like, 15, maybe 20 minutes to start laughing and had to fight through the you sucks and stuff because they were just drunk animals. And then.

[Brian Green]

And then it's also a corporate gig. Like, you know, there's the HR department. Is there. It's like, you know, people are like, I think that. Should I not laugh at that?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, I think it was a theater, and some people snuck in because it bar.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

I was getting some, like, not so corporate. So funny. By the way, I. I've dealt with corporations because I've done specials and stuff with different streamers. And the way they speak is so different than what I'm getting at this show. Like, we found that this doesn't play well with our demo. And I'm like, then this show, they're like, fuck you, cock sucker. The hell happened? This is a weird office, but, you.

[Brian Green]

Know, my pillow people.

[Sam Morrill]

But, oh, yeah, that's a lucky. Jesus Christ, you know? So by the end, I was like, all right. They at least, like, respected me. But the best part of these gigs is they, like. They were like, all right, he's good. Like, we were. I think most of them were like, we're assholes. But they wanted me to, like, hang after and.

[Brian Green]

Oh, that's a sign that they liked you.

[Sam Morrill]

I'm like, you think I want to hang with you fucking assholes?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, right.

[Sam Morrill]

I'd rather get beaten in by a gang than this shit. Not really. I'd rather bomb for 25 minutes.

[Brian Green]

I'd rather bomb for 25 minutes, too.

[Sam Morrill]

I was using hyperbole there.

[Brian Green]

15 minutes is a long time to try to win a crowd over them. And everyone's talking over really closer to.

[Sam Morrill]

25 of just, like, kind of fighting. But then you. You figure it out. I mean, it's just like, we've all. Every comic does, and it's like, by the way, so a bad day at my job is 30 minutes. It's like, all right, it's. I can deal with it. It's pretty easy.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I don't do too much. We don't do too much complaining here either. I mean, we don't have anybody roasting us. I think that's the big difference between us. And, like, if someone actually walks that. What do they call it? The final 15 or whatever. When you walk on stage and it's like, you know, you guys, that's a. That must do. You still get, like, nervous when you go up there?

[Sam Morrill]

No, I just. I just kind of, like. I just kind of sign I'm like, this ain't gonna be fun. It's kind of like, not nervous. I just kind of know what it is. Yeah, I get a little nervous when it's, like. When you don't have your act to fall back on, when it's stuff that's, like, all riffing. But then I just have to remind myself, like, I've been doing this a long time. Just trust the muscle memory. And, like, I watch a lot of sports, and, yeah, I'm a big Knicks fan. And Walt Frazier, who.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah, there you go.

[Sam Morrill]

He would always. He always says when players are shooting badly, he's like, they're aiming their shot, which just means they're thinking about it too much. So I think if you're thinking about being funny and you don't just trust yourself to be funny, you're. You're kind of. Fuck. I did. I did a couple sets last night on stage of the Cellar with a friend of mine, Mateo Lane.

[Brian Green]

We were just like, oh, yeah?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, you want to just go up and bullshit, like, try to find some jokes together? And he was like, yeah. So I brought him up on my show, and then he brought me up on his, and we fucking were killing. I was like, oh, yeah.

[Brian Green]

I didn't.

[Sam Morrill]

You forget that.

[Brian Green]

You forget that you have. That's, like, muscle memory for you.

[Sam Morrill]

It's like I wrote all these topical jokes, like, before I went on with him. So maybe funny if we get some, like, you know, Kamala Harris jokes or, like, some Biden jokes.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Or, you know, maybe about the Yellowstone geyser or something.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Or the whale that flipped. Oh, my God. I want. About him. That bombs. They just didn't get it. I don't think the whale that flipped that capsized the boat.

[Brian Green]

So I said, fucking unbelievable.

[Sam Morrill]

I said, that's like, oh, my God. Can you imagine? I said, yeah, you've only been flipped over by a bear. And they just didn't like. That's a good line. How did that bomb?

[Brian Green]

How did that bomb?

[Sam Morrill]

But then, like, every line that I just. Like, we were just riffing and playing off each other, and it's like, you just remember, like, he's so charming and natural.

[Brian Green]

Mateo's funny. Yeah, he's good. Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

You just figure it out.

[Brian Green]

You. You. And I think I mean to lick your ass a little bit. I think. I think what I like about you, I don't.

[Sam Morrill]

By the way, I don't think that's the expression.

[Brian Green]

Was it kiss your ass?

[Sam Morrill]

I don't think it's to lick Your ass.

[Brian Green]

I think what's good about you and what I like about you is that there is like this quiet, like this like comfortable confidence that you go on, that you do seem like someone is very comfortable in his skin. Telling jokes that, you know, yeah, you got the room because now you have an audience. But you know, at some point you didn't. When did you start? I mean, this is like a stock question, but when did you start doing stand up?

[Sam Morrill]

I started my first set, I was like 18. So I've been doing this a while, but you know. Yeah, you just kind of get used to your. Like my natural energy is. This is how I speak. So I was like, let me see if I can get them. Instead of being like, ah, bye. Like the guys who are high energy and have to kill, let me see if I can kind of kill with my energy. I can get them used to my energy. Like, you know, Nate Bargazi was a guy who always kill with low energy. And yeah, Barry and guy. There was a lot of great comics in New York who did that. And I was like, maybe I can just speak in my natural energy. I remember seeing Leonard Cohen at Madison Square Garden. Musician. But he just like held the room with a lower energy and that's. It's a different skill. So. So you kind of like, okay, that's different. That's pretty cool. And I think in like other specials of mine, there's more of a sense of urgency, like a desperation of just being like, oh fuck, I gotta, I gotta kill. I gotta grab em. You're just used to these crowds that got free tickets on the road and don't give a shit about you and the whole show. It's like, you gotta prove it to me. You're funny. So I think once you trust them to know that it's gonna be a good show and that they know it's gonna be a good show, you. You kind of trust your pacing a little more and it's a little more. And it's not cool to be desperate on stage. Like, no one wants to be around a desperate. Like, would you want a fucking stripper who's just like, come on, let me give you.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

Like that's not what you want.

[Brian Green]

You want, you want. Yeah, I mean, natural energy. Yeah. I think you gotta, if, if that's your energy to be anything else would come across as inauthentic. It wouldn't be cool. And then you just struggle to make, make things funny. Like, I mean, I remember seeing Chris Rock and his latest whenever he went on Tour after the slap in the Room, he was like, at the Fox Theater here in Atlanta. And the room was a weird, dull energy. When we got in there, I think it was like a Thursday night or something. Everyone was just kind of like, very quiet and soft. Like, it was weird for a comedy show. And he came out with his natural energy, and in five minutes, the crowd was on fire, even. Yeah. It was just so weird how. Not weird, but how he controlled the room. Right. Everyone came up to match him. That's very much who he is. And so. But I imagine when you're going out, at first, at least, you got to kind of, like, find your way to that. And there's probably a lot of, I don't know, like, motions that you go through just to find out who you are as a comic, what's your authentic voice. And you definitely have perspective. I mean, and it's. To me, it's hilarious.

[Sam Morrill]

Thanks, man. Yeah, Rock is so fun to watch always. But, like, I do love watching him in smaller rooms because he's not doing the kind of performance he's doing. Just.

[Brian Green]

He's not, like, stalking the stage and running around. Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

He's just kind of talking out the bit. He's just finding the bit. And I. He's got such an interesting mind that it's. It's cool to just watch him like. Like, work it and kind of be like, huh, okay, this line's not right. It's cool to see him kind of figure it out because, yeah, his angles on social commentary are, like, as good as it gets.

[Brian Green]

Can I share with you a story? And I want to. I want to see if this is true. So I think of comedy, and I've said this a lot as a kind of musicality. Right. There's, like, beats and notes and you take a breath and there's intonation and loud and soft and all that other stuff. When I saw Rock, he obviously, Atlanta was one of the first cities he played, and so you could kind of tell that he was getting. Toward the end of the show, you were just. He was wrapping it up. You were seeing this. And right. At some point, he told a joke where I felt like that was the mic drop moment. He wanted it to be the mic drop moment, but it didn't happen in the room. It didn't happen happen. It didn't. He didn't get the reaction he wanted. So I felt this was just my interpretation of what went on. He went back to it and wound us up for another 3, 4, 5 minutes and then got that moment that he wanted, and that was the mic drop moment. In my interpretation of what went on was he wanted this first moment to be the dead drop, but it didn't happen. So he kept going until he got the reaction he wanted, and that was the mic drop. Do you ever feel that? Do you, like, have, like. Like an extra couple of minutes? Because I didn't get that reaction. I didn't get that mic drop moment.

[Sam Morrill]

That's a really good observation, because I think. I mean, for me, I relate to that. I think most of my specials have one long story and a short story, so that's interesting. I mean, I think a lot of albums will have, like, one crazy long song. Like, it'll be Guns N Roses, a lot of short songs, and then November Rain. So, yeah, I think for me, that structure always kind of was like. Like, it's like a mini. Like, all right, here's one more. You know, like, that was the big one, but, like, let's do one more. I also thought, like, having one in the chamber is a nice thing. Like, if that closure didn't get what you wanted, you like, all right, here's. I have a backup. It's a nice way to. You feel a little more prepared as a comic.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah, that's what. That's. And that's was just an observation. Maybe he. Maybe he always intended to do the extra two or three minutes, but it didn't feel like that to me. I felt like, oh, he wanted that to try drop. It dropped with me, but it. It didn't drop with him. Do you know our Daniel Point? Have you ever been to the Daniel Point Improv?

[Sam Morrill]

I love that club. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Do you really?

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Christina]

All right.

[Sam Morrill]

I've done a couple times. Yeah. Fort Lauderdale. Just good crowds. Yeah. I. I use it as a workout room a couple times, and I. And I built a lot of jokes in that room because the crowds were really generous.

[Brian Green]

I thought, oh, that makes me feel better.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, it makes us feel good.

[Brian Green]

We're doing a live show down there. And I was like, I never heard of Daniel Point half too.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. Awesome. Awesome club.

[Brian Green]

Oh, fantastic.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Makes me feel better.

[Brian Green]

Are you on the road right now?

[Sam Morrill]

I'm doing a casino gig in Hammond, Indiana, on Saturday with, like, a few comics. Chris DiStefano, Nimesh Patel, and Jordan Jensen. So I'll be out for one night. I'm actually doing the Miami Improv next weekend. Doing Baltimore, August 15th through 17th. I'm doing something. Some casino in Parlor Lake.

[Brian Green]

Did you enjoy doing the casinos?

[Sam Morrill]

The money's Good. And it's only a night usually, so I'm all right with it. And I do find that I get my crowd now, so it's like, back in the day, I was like, fuck, a casino. But now it's kind of like my people. So I actually like Vegas now for, like, a night.

[Brian Green]

Oh, really?

[Sam Morrill]

Jews are just not built for the desert. I wake up, like, the hangover and the throat, it's. I. I just. I shrivel up. I hate it. But Vegas for a night. But then you see, like, you're in the casinos. I. You know, I want to take everyone out to a nice dinner. And you look at the prices, and you're like, do you think $400 for Tomahawk State seems fair, Right? Do you think that seems right? It's literally like, you made an airport a city.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, true.

[Brian Green]

It's insane. It's. Yeah, I agree with you. It's. Vegas gets you from the. I took a flight out to Vegas six months ago, 10 months ago, whenever it was. Took a flight out to Vegas, and I'm sitting next to probably what I would imagine are two of the most derelict human beings I've ever seen in my time. Like, then they're 50.

[Sam Morrill]

I go in Reno. You'll find that's the whole city, too.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah, Reno. Different animal. But these guys, like, you know, they got their maga gear on. The one guy does pants down his ass, and there are literally betting on the. The flight. Like, they're watching sports, and they're like, I got $10 this. I got $10 that. They didn't even make. I. So I follow them.

[Sam Morrill]

By the way. By the way, this doesn't sound trashy. And I do this all the time. Like a.

[Brian Green]

Well, no, but I'm talking. They were, like, betting in between each other. Like, on the.

[Sam Morrill]

Each other money.

[Brian Green]

Yes. They were doing this on the way. And then I, you know, follow them out of the flight. They didn't. Not one slot machine went by before those guys were sitting down with a drink. I was like, wow, that. This. Vegas got you right? When you get in the way, those.

[Sam Morrill]

Like, cheap slots, man. I saw a guy cigarette, scotch in hand and a hat that said number one dad.

[Brian Green]

I was like, are you really?

[Sam Morrill]

Probably not number one, but yeah. I think my opener in Reno was, boy, if you ever want to see fake tits and an oxygen tank on the same, this is the spot. I didn't know it was a thing. You know, Reno is. I did the casino there, Silver Lake, Silver Legacy a couple times. I remember Doing it for a week. Like, I will never do this again. But, you know, the next year, summer's dry. You're like, all right, I'll do this again. Yeah, I do that with a lot of clubs. Myrtle Beach, I'm like, this city. I'll never be back. And then I'm just like, my age. I'm like, can we get that Myrtle? I think that guy, like, Myrtle open. They're just ordering trays of Long island iced tea like you.

[Brian Green]

Oh, God, there's got to be murder. Murder Beach. Yeah, it's a nice town, if you're in to, you know, go karts and Dolly Partons.

[Sam Morrill]

No, look, this. The town is fine. Crowds did not want comedy at my shows, at least. But I. I remember I walked in there at the club, and the first thing that happened was the bartender said, hey, can you. Can you fix the urinal cake in the bathroom? And I was like, hey, I'm the headliner for the weekend. She goes, so, no. And I was like, yeah, that's a pretty firm no.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

So, no.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. I'm not going to repair the bathroom.

[Brian Green]

I'm not going to. I'm going to keep my hands not blue for the rest of my. She was like.

[Sam Morrill]

She pushed it. She was like, I'm a woman. I can't do it. I'm like, I'm. There's another man here. I was like, my face is on the poster.

[Brian Green]

Bathroom work. Wait, just to be clear, this actually happened? She asked me to change.

[Sam Morrill]

Holy. And it was weird. The booker there really liked me. Like, I feel like he was. I was like, all right. You know, I was like a. Fond of a fun. You know, who was young when I would drink with them. So they were like, all right, this guy's like, he's a good hang.

[Brian Green]

And.

[Sam Morrill]

And he liked my jokes even though the crowd didn't. And so sometimes you get a booker who enjoys. You do for himself. Yeah, but, like, these shows ain't going great.

[Brian Green]

We're not really doing well. And he's like, I got. I. I need something interesting to watch while I'm working.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Right.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, it was a wild. Those were wild weeks.

[Brian Green]

In Myrtle Beach. Is that like a family crowd? Is that. Do you think, why you didn't get it, or is it just more of a. Like, I don't know what's.

[Sam Morrill]

Those weren't family crowds at my shows. No, they were like. They were booze bags. I think they were just like. I think they just. Sometimes on weekends. And this is a risk you run as A young comic at clubs that will just, like, sell tickets, but not for you. They're like, there for comedy and not for you.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

They're just like, well, it's Saturday. I want to talk to my friends. I'm like, well, you can't do that at the show. So they're just having, like, full blown drunken conversations while you're trying to, like, you know, in my head, I'm like, I need to work on an act. I need to build a new hour. But, yeah, I remember I had a girlfriend at the time I was staying. They didn't even put you up in a hotel. You're like a comedy condo.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

And comedy condo.

[Brian Green]

We were talking to Brian Moses about that yesterday.

[Sam Morrill]

She drives. She drove through and she stopped in. And I was like, I feel really bad. You in this condo.

[Brian Green]

It's like, don't worry.

[Sam Morrill]

I was like, sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Brian Green]

These sheets probably haven't been washed in 10 years. But I apologize.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Was you. Are you dating someone now?

[Sam Morrill]

I am, yeah. Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Does she. What does she think about your. Your new special? Like, what was her reaction? Because you get into it a little bit. I mean, it's not too personal, but.

[Sam Morrill]

I think, you know, occasionally I have a new joke about her that she, like, tell us. This is usually the. How it goes with me. They get annoyed at first. I don't tell them the joke the first time I try it because, like, it's not worth, like, hey, is this funny? And then I do it and it. And I. And I bomb. They're like, that joke stuck. Like, fuck you. That's not true. And then the joke doesn't even work. But if it kills, I'm like, hey, I got a new one about you. And I was like, you want to hear it? So I play. What I don't do is I don't tell it to her. I play it to her with the laughs. Yeah. I've been doing about her where she. It's true.

[Brian Green]

She talks so very smart.

[Sam Morrill]

I've never dated a woman who talks this much in my life. Like, she's a real talker. And I kind of told her. I was like, you know, I have to not listen sometimes when you speak because I would never have my own thoughts because you just don't stop talking. You, like, like, mention everything. And I told her, like, but I'm scared, you know, that I'm gonna miss something big. Now when I tune you out, like, you're gonna come in the room and be like, where's my epipen I'll be like, that's crazy.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I can't believe that.

[Sam Morrill]

You know, but that's like. Like, jokes about her where I'm like, oh. And she was like, fuck you. That's not funny. That I worked on all the shows. But, you know, I. The first joke about her, you know, she's older than me, so I jokes about her in the. In the special schoolgirl outfit.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

I didn't tell her it.

[Brian Green]

She.

[Sam Morrill]

It was at one of my shows. Oh, she heard it. She goes. First thing she said, had a great show, not good set. She goes, schoolgirl outfit?

[Brian Green]

Really, Sam?

[Sam Morrill]

But you know, yeah, because I had the joke about her wearing the schoolgirl. I was like, you know, but she's, you know, but she's older, so she doesn't look like a schoolgirl. She looks like a dumbass. I was like, oh, cool. I get the. A special ed, you know, And. And she was like, at first, like, you know, fuck you. But then she was like, that's a good one. I had another ex. Like, I had a joke about her in. In my Netflix special, which, like, I don't know why this bothered her, but, like, you know, she. I had a joke where she tried to have sex with me during this movie. I was trying to show her a movie.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

She goes, oh, you're not gonna have sex with me because of the movie. And I was like, I'll you during the movie. You pick. I don't want to Dog Day afternoons in my top five, you know, trying to watch this. And she was annoyed by that. And she was like, I didn't do that. I did. Was doing Dumb and Dumber, not Dog day Afternoon. Well, you fell asleep during dog day afternoon, which is even worse.

[Brian Green]

Amen.

[Sam Morrill]

That's even worse. That's a. So I made you look better. But yeah. And you know, and I think the turn of that was something like, you know, I'd rather, you know, I'd rather like you like the movie than sex with me. Because I can defend the movie. You know what I mean? That was like a fun angle. That was one. At first. I remember she was like, that's not funny. And I'm like, that's like, it's killing. It's like one of my favorite jokes in my new hour. And, like, reluctantly, she was like, that's a good one. I'm like, well, you fucking tried to push me out of it. So you got. I've had the weird ones. I've dated a lot of people who, like, I remember I Had a whole breakup set on Conan. Like, Conan, this comic. And I, you know, we. We kept breaking up and she broke. She would, like, keep breaking up with me and then keep trying to get back with me. And I was like, fuck this. So I just did a whole set about it on Conan. She was pissed, but she was also like. It was a good set.

[Brian Green]

It was a good set. Yeah, you did a good set.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, the jokes were solid. I mean, they were like. And they were all true. I mean, I wasn't making anything up. So, you know. And she said shit about me too. So it's all. It's all fair game.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I think it's all. It's all fair game. I think it's some. You know, we talk a lot about our personal lives here because we do so much content that no one's asking for, quite frankly, but we do so much content that it's like, you know, how you stay away from talking about your personal life. And my. I have to feel like I. Sometimes I have to tiptoe around certain subjects of my wife because I got to live with her. So I don't.

[Sam Morrill]

By the way, are we not the worst generation ever? We have, like, grandparents that served in wars and just like, took like, so much to the grave. And I'm like, I had a bad day.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, a bad day. Making $10,000 telling bad jokes for 15 minutes. Yeah, it's a really shitty. Yeah, you're so right About. About this too. Is like our grandparents. That was my son. I have a son. And he. He said something to me and I said, kid, that's just not the way it work. Oh. He said, did you sleep? He was. Thunderstorm. He came in. He slept with us. Did you sleep with your dad when there was thunderstorms? And I said, no, I sleep on the floor. At best, I slept on the floor.

[Sam Morrill]

Then why am I sucking your dick?

[Brian Green]

And I go, listen, kid, it's just a different. It's just. It was a different time. Like, it. Parents didn't love their kids back then, and we turned out so much better than you did. I mean, you know, you're going to be so just. You're going to be so crippled by my love that. But what can I do? I can't help it. It's just the way that it. That it's going down. But you're right about this.

[Sam Morrill]

We complain about everything too, probably.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I think so. But I guess we won't find out until he gets to therapy.

[Sam Morrill]

We won't find out until he gets yeah, you up Somehow, dude, I feel bad for my mom in so many ways. She was a great mom, but she does a few things that, like, bother me so much. I'm like, you gotta stop. You gotta, like. She'll push me to do that. I'm like, I don't want to do that. I'm an adult. And she. And then she'll just nag me until. Until I am just too busy and fatigued and I cave. Like, I just moved into a new apartment. And she was like, you need an interior decorator. I said, I'm not paying someone to decorate my apartment. She goes, you need one. Talking like, 40 emails. Interior decorator. I said, I'm not paying someone for that. And then I was like, finally. It was like months.

[Brian Green]

Finally.

[Sam Morrill]

I was like, you know what? Find someone inexpensive who's good. Do it. This person sends me the first invoice. Do you want to know what. How much she charges?

[Brian Green]

Talk to me.

[Sam Morrill]

400 an hour. And I'm like, you think you're worth. That's twice what therapy is.

[Brian Green]

Yes.

[Sam Morrill]

You think you're twice. No one's commit suicide over not having a decorate, okay? I was like, immediately like, oh, you're fired. I'm not doing this.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, no. 400 an hour. That's more than our attorney charges. That's insane.

[Sam Morrill]

I know. It's mental. And I. I was just like, just.

[Brian Green]

No, no.

[Sam Morrill]

So I got.

[Brian Green]

Plus, how do you really know how much time she spent? I mean, this is one of those, like, very subjective things.

[Sam Morrill]

Come by the apartment, I'd be like, my head. I'd be like, wait a second.

[Brian Green]

It's an hour.

[Sam Morrill]

She came by.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Just to charge me. You needed for Subway.

[Sam Morrill]

Got stuck. She was like, that counts, you know? Now I'm paying for the MTA.

[Brian Green]

400 fucking dollars an hour. That's insane. You don't need an interior decorator, by the way.

[Sam Morrill]

Did I say Subway? She's probably taking a fucking stretch limo, right? Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Private helicopter. I mean, that's what she's doing. That's fucking insane, Sam. Yeah, there's. There's an interior. There's some student out there who goes to some shitty design school who's probably just as good, who would do it for the experience. I know Papa John's. I swear to God.

[Sam Morrill]

No, no, I'm.

[Brian Green]

I'm.

[Sam Morrill]

I'll. I can take it from here.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. He's like, I'll rectify this immediately.

[Sam Morrill]

My mom will come by and be like, this is. She'll look at my place and be like, it's just horribly decorated. I'm like, it's my place.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

It makes me happy. What does it mean to you?

[Brian Green]

I know my mom is up my ass sounds like just as much as your mom is up your ass sometimes, but you know moms, do.

[Sam Morrill]

They. They think what's best for them is best for you. And it's like, they mean well, but of course. Stop pushing me to do.

[Brian Green]

Not interested, Mom. That's your idea. Not my idea. I don't want to do it. And you're right. If she. If I don't do it, she's always, like, finding a way to make me kind of feel guilty. Drip, drip, drip. Water torture. She just keeps on telling me, keeps on talking to me. And then God forbid I get it wrong. Yeah, God forbid I get it wrong. Hey, I wanted to tell you something. You may not even remember this, but there's a. You have a tick tock video out there about a guy who claimed he had something called Sex Omnia. And I was like, holy. Is that a real thing? Could there really be something called sexomnia? There is something called Sex Omnia, and it is when. Look, everybody has sexomnia.

[Sam Morrill]

Does that mean anything?

[Brian Green]

No, it doesn't.

[Sam Morrill]

This. Does it not mean it's not insane? What was. Does it mean, like, you. You try to have sex with people while you're asleep?

[Christina]

Yes.

[Sam Morrill]

I've run into a few of those and I'm like, I mean, look, it's a great out. I'll tell you. Just trying to.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I was asleep.

[Sam Morrill]

You just. Yeah. You just. You know.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it was.

[Sam Morrill]

It seems like a great out. You just start fingering your. Your girlfriend.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

And you're like, oh, my. Oh, my God. Did I do that? I was.

[Brian Green]

Oh, man. It's amazing. Sam, your new special is on Amazon. Do you have any indication of how it's doing?

[Sam Morrill]

I have no idea.

[Brian Green]

They don't tell you that?

[Sam Morrill]

I think I. I have no idea. Amazon is a little tricky.

[Brian Green]

They're a little sneaky.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Everybody should watch it.

[Brian Green]

Everybody should watch it. Yeah. As soon as it came out, it popped right up for me.

[Sam Morrill]

Good, good. Yeah, yeah. You know, I hear. You hear. It's like certain people are like, I can't find it in Germany. I'm like, you'll figure it out. You know what I mean? People are watching. I'm. I'm. I'm happy with how it turned out, but, you know, it's inevitable. You get this kind of postpartum funk after you put a special out. So you're Back to the, Back to the. Well, you know, just trying to.

[Brian Green]

Do you, do you now go out and start working on the next special. You work on the next material.

[Sam Morrill]

It's, people are messaging me. I'm doing a Euro tour in September and they're like, is it material from the special? Because I just want to know. And I'm like, I'm trying for it not to be. So I, I, I think I'll have at least 30 to 40 minutes of new shit. I would hope.

[Brian Green]

Do people like people, Obviously they want to go. I'm imagining they're texting you because they want to see something new. They're like, is it, I'm not gonna buy this. Like, what a fucking asshole move. I'm not gonna buy the tickets if it's not all brand new material. I know.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Like, it's support.

[Brian Green]

Well, you know, I get it, I.

[Sam Morrill]

Get it, I get it. Like, you know, but it's funny. Like, the pressure on comics is very different than that of musicians where like Billy Joel can play the same one new song in like 40 years. And everyone's like, it's incredible. And I'm like, look, I love Billy Joel too, but like, I'm expecting, have a new act every fucking year. And, and it's a lot. So, yeah, you know, I think I should have it. Look. And it is good, it is good because I can keep kind of, it's good for me because it's exciting.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

But it definitely is, it's tough. I want to, I want to have, I'll work on it. I'm gonna, I'm gonna start doing like pop up shows at the Comedy Cellar and just like, like do an hour and just look at what I do. I read new jokes off a sheet. Sometimes a lot of them I'll memorize, but sometimes I'll be like, hey, what about this one? Off a notepad and I'll just listen to the audio and see what's working and what's not and see where I can build. But it's a lot of trial and error and it's, it's cool, man. It's like, it's annoying, but it's, it's good for comedy that we're all pushed to write this much, but it's, it's a lot.

[Brian Green]

You've got a number of specials that I think, think are, are super funny. You know the guy, you know Eddie Brill, the guy who used to help book Letterman? Okay. So Eddie was a, a friend and he told me one time on a phone Call. He said, ryan, if a comic gets 45 great minutes in a lifetime, that's funny and sells out and audiences love it, he's like, that's a really good earmark. You know how hard it is to do that repeatedly, year after year? Two years. After two years, whatever it is, is. He's like, it's probably one of the more difficult things in entertainment is to keep creating a new 45.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It's got to be such a high, too.

[Sam Morrill]

There's a lot of different types of stuff that's hard in entertainment, I think, you know, coming up with new music that sounds. I agree, is definitely hard. I think writing a new movie like. I think you look at certain screenwriters who are crazy prolific like that, that's impressive to me too. But the advantage they have, I think, is that they can tell different stories, right? You know, certain writers, we all know their voice. Like, we know what an Aaron Sorkin movie sounds like, right? But then there's certain people that are a little more like, okay, that was. That was a cool. Different type. Like, Woody Allen's definitely got his own style, but, like, he's made movies that are kind of different. You know, he's like, bananas, but also match point. Like, different stuff. So I think it depends. But there is an advantage on writing new stuff. But I think writing a script on your own is incredibly hard. Like, stand up. It's like, I have to kind of do that. I'm my own boss, and I'm a shitty boss. Masturbation breaks.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, you've got to be a terrible.

[Sam Morrill]

Boss, but, you know, you gotta kind of be on yourself. Like, dude, write the joke. So I. It's. It's a weird. It's a really weird life in that I'm my own boss and I'm. I'm a bad employee and a bad boss.

[Brian Green]

So we know the feeling.

[Christina]

We get it.

[Brian Green]

The only person who's gonna make us do something new is us, and we're notorious. Seriously bad at that. Because you really. There has to be a place like a center in you that's just so on fire that you gotta go do it. But then there's, like, everything else in life. There's that. There's pushback internally, externally, and all that other stuff. When you have a boss at a job, they say, do it or you're fired. That's pretty good motivation to get something done. But here, it's not it. I mean, you know, being a good.

[Sam Morrill]

Employee, though, too, sometimes companies just cut back, you know, so, yeah, we know.

[Brian Green]

That'S how we met. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

I feel very fortunate, you know, that I. I'm kind of my own boss. And, like, I do have other ambitions in entertainment, but, like, I love stand up, and I'll never love anything as much as I love stand up. Yeah. But I want to keep my love of stand up. Like, it's almost like I do this so much that I feel like it's kind of like a relationship where if I spend. If I'm obsessed with it, then it's gonna fizzle out at some point. But if I kind of like, all right, let me take a night off here and there's. And work on a script or something, I feel like the love stays, and it's easy to burn yourself out, because I love it. And I will say yes to almost any gig if it's, like, a good deal. I'll just say I was happy to be on the road 45 weeks a year for years.

[Brian Green]

So, two questions. What would you like? What do you see yourself doing outside of comedy? Like, what is branching out in some way?

[Sam Morrill]

I would like to write movies and tv, but the problem is they're really hard to make now. Like, we were talking about this earlier. You know, maybe I'll write something for Glen Powell. I don't know, man. I, like. I don't want to act. That's not, like, a real something that I aspire to do. I find it to be pretty boring. But if it was my own work and I can kind of riff and make it fun, I would be okay with it. So I. You know, I'm working on a TV thing that, you know, with my. With my friend Mike Lawrence and my friend Mark Norman, I wrote a movie with Noah Garden Schwartz and Esther Steinberg. So, you know, these are things that, like, I would like to do on the side, you know, but standup is the primary focus, and it always will be. I love stand up so much, and.

[Brian Green]

I think stand up, like, you can write the joke this afternoon and be testing it out tomorrow. And it can be.

[Sam Morrill]

I'm testing out tonight, today, and trying to. I mean, that's what I love.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

I think the part of the toughness or part of the challenge in movie and television is that you can write the script and it can be the best thing in the world, but that you might take 10 years to get to fruition. Right? You might be banging your head around 10 years. You might never make it.

[Sam Morrill]

I mean, I think there's some of the great stuff that, like, you know, there's this book I love called Pictures at a Revolution about movies in the 60s, about the five movies that changed Hollywood. I think it's a cool era for movies.

[Brian Green]

Oh, that's really interesting.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah. And it's. I found out about it because my friend Dana Gould loved it. And then I heard Tarantino talk about it in a podcast. I was like, all right, I'm checking this out. So it's about, like, the five movies that changed Hollywood at the time. And it was, I think, Bonnie and Clyde. Okay, who's coming to dinner? Graduate. Guess who's coming to dinner. I mean, and the Heat of the. In the Heat of the Night, two Sydney party movies. And then Dr. Dolittle, which, like, sucked, but was a huge budget movie. So they just kind of changed Hollywood for a lot of reasons. Reasons. But talk about making Bonnie and Clyde and how it took, like five years and Warren Beatty just, like one. Everyone and people. And there was a lot of battles. Like, people were like, this movie's trash. It's just violence for the sake of violence. I don't think it's true.

[Brian Green]

No.

[Sam Morrill]

And, you know, but he really fought for it. And it went through so many iterations. Like, oh, we're trying to get. You know, I think they tried to get Truffaut at one point to direct it, but he was like, no. And then end up with Arthur. Pam. But just making a movie was so hard. And you're like, that's one of the best movies ever. And it took forever. So, like, the fuck am I to think? It's not going to be, like, a challenge for me. It's going to be. It's supposed to be hard. Stand up is hard. Like, I see how many great comics have to struggle with the seller. And, you know, though there's a lot of comics I know who deserve way bigger audiences.

[Brian Green]

So did someone help you? Like, when you did, do you feel like there was a person out there, comic out there? Somebody? I mean, I'm sure there's many, right? I'm sure there's many. But do you think, like, you stand out, like, one person one time, you know, gave you a piece of advice?

[Sam Morrill]

People. People will give you help here and there, but, you know, like, David Tell would take me on the road, and Gary Goldman took me on the road a bit and helped me. He wrecked me at the Cellar. Amy Schumer produced one of my specials at the time, and I don't think anyone would have. So, yeah, that one's on YouTube now. I think it's a pretty good one. It is Influence, you know, and so I think, you know, people help you and it's huge. But you have to capitalize. You can't be content with how help. You can't just be like, oh, cool, I got help. You have to really, you have to, you have to parlay that into something. You have to work that into another hour. You have to, you can't get something and just be like, ah, cool, let me, let me put my.

[Brian Green]

Here, I've arrived.

[Sam Morrill]

Yeah, let me. Okay, what next? And that's kind of how I always felt because I never felt I didn't get in a stand up when it was like a cool thing to do. I didn't know it was going to be this big. So I feel incredibly fortunate that this is like a cool thing to do right now. But when I started it, it certainly wasn't.

[Brian Green]

No. Yeah.

[Sam Morrill]

I didn't know there was opportunity to, to make money like this or to get to live like this. And I'm grateful, but like, I, I also am aware it wasn't like this a while ago. It could go away.

[Brian Green]

You know, it's true, it's true. I mean, it's the same thing, you know, just to like, I don't know, try and find some perspective here. It's the same thing with podcasting. Like, podcasting wasn't a thing 10 years ago. No one gave a. Until the pandemic. And then everyone gave a right or until serial. And I thought it did worse during.

[Sam Morrill]

The pandemic because no one had a commute to work.

[Brian Green]

No, it did. It did really good because people had time on their hands. But you know what the downside was is that every single human being, including us, to be fair, even though we started a little bit before the pandemic, to be fair, everybody else in the world also started a podcast because they had time on there.

[Sam Morrill]

I started one with my ex during the podcast. We started a podcast during the podcast. Yeah, no, we. During COVID We started podcast because we were just watching movies every night. I feel like we should do a thing where we wreck movies to each other. One you've never seen that you like is important to you and just make it into a pot. And it was like, it was fun.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it's a listen. It was, it's a ton of fun. And then, you know, we've made some money and said, okay, if we do this, but we didn't. You know, there are lots of people who gave us advice and help, but I think you're right about that. It's like when you get an opportunity, you have to have the motivation, the ambition and the foresight to walk through the door yourself. Because people can help you open a door, but they can't walk it through you. They can't walk through it with you. You just have to. You have to do that. And so, so you've changed is on Amazon. I know you've got to go. I don't to keep you from your. Your next thing. But you've changed is on Amazon. Samil is one. Tik Tok is one of the funniest guys. I don't mean Tik Tok the app. I mean Tik Tok. He is one of the funniest comedians working out there today. You made us laugh. This new special made Chrissy and I double over from the get like, from word one. You were really funny. I love your perspective and keep doing it. You're welcome back here anytime, my friend. Guys, you're welcome.

[Sam Morrill]

Appreciate it.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, thanks for coming on.

[Brian Green]

Also, you can follow them on Tik Tok and Instagram, which I'm sure isn't. That's, that's just as important these days as anything else that you do is making sure that you get the socials out there. But like we were talking to your friend Rachel about, it's like, it's great because now you find your audience and you can talk directly to them where, yeah, 10 years ago, you couldn't.

[Sam Morrill]

So, yeah, pretty cool.

[Brian Green]

All right, Sam Morill, you've changed out on Amazon. Go watch it. Thanks, Sam. We really appreciate. Appreciate it.

[Sam Morrill]

Thank you, guys.

[Brian Green]

Thank you.

[Christina]

You already know who it is, Christina, here to keep you actually informed. Unlike some people we know, Brian, I've got certified, verified factual information about our Florida shows. So listen up. We are coming to Danya beach improv on Tuesday, September 24th and the Funny Bone in Orlando on Wednesday, September 25th. And links to those tickets are in the show notes, notes. So go get em. In other completely new and interesting news, you should follow us on Instagram at the commercial break and on TikTokCBpodcast. And of course, go to our website, tcbpodcast.com for all of our audio and video content. And finally, if you want to tell Brian and Chrissy that I am a pretty, pretty princess or that you hate me, text us or leave us a voicemail at 212-4333, TC TV. That's 212-433-3822.

[Brian Green]

Bye. Ah, the great Sam Morrell. Just as interesting as we thought. Just as we thought.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yes.

[Brian Green]

I Love that likable guy. Actually, I know, you know, you watch him on, you know, sometimes you, you. Well, I don't know how to say this. Sometimes you watch comedians and, you know, we're relatively new at this. Like, we've done a number of interviews, so I feel like we. We're comfortable sitting in these chairs at least. But then when you, when you have a comedian on that's got really got fangs, like, you know, they know how to work a room, they're not. You're not going to put anything past them. Yes. And Sam is one of those comedians that I was like, oh, he's good, but he's sharp. So you got to stay on your toes. But he's a really likable guy.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

We didn't want to get morning showed.

[Brian Green]

No. Well, I was kind. I told Chrissy before the interview, I said, if we get morning showed, just roll with it. Just be one of those that keeps on asking the questions and we'll see how far he takes.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. How far we can go.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I'm not going to try and keep up with Sam. There's no way. The great Sam Morrill on Amazon right now. You've changed. I don't know about you, but this one showed up right at the top of my ear.

[Christina]

It did?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. When I was.

[Brian Green]

You'll like this. And now I get all like. I mean, Sam, obviously they're. They're pushing Sam because he's a big name and they want that comedy special to do well. But now I get every comedy special because I watch so many comedy specials now it's just all comedy specials and then the occasional, you know, my mom killed my two children or something like that.

[Sam Morrill]

Right.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I know the two people that got abducted kids.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Did you see that?

[Brian Green]

Oh, God, I couldn't watch it.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

No, no, I couldn't watch it either, but I saw it pop up the most as a thing.

[Brian Green]

We'll talk about this on another episode, maybe tomorrow's episode. But the most fascinating documentary I have watched in a while is about a woman in somewhere whose daughter got kidnapped and she was looking for her, but there was some question marks about. Or she got. She was lost. Okay, I'll find the name of it. Let me talk about it tomorrow's episode.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Because I don't want to talk about too.

[Brian Green]

Oh, you do? Okay. Okay. Yeah, we'll talk about all the. Oh, love off the. Sounds great. Oh, you watch that show? Oh, I've seen the first season. Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I haven't seen the second season.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. But anyway. Anyway, back to Sam. Sam is great. You can see all of his. He's got so much material out there on YouTube, Instagram. He's got multiple specials. I think a few of them are available on Prime. A few of them are available on Paramount. Maybe one of them's on Netflix. He's everywhere. But watch the newest one, you've changed, available now on Prime. And we thank Sam for coming in and I hope he comes in again. He won't, but I hope he does.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

They all say that they will.

[Brian Green]

They all say that they will. But so far, only one has agreed to come back. To be fair, we haven't asked anybody to come back because I'm afraid of the answer. You know what I'm saying? I always see DEZ Bishop out there. Like, I love dez and I'm constantly watching him.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, he said he would come anytime.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, he's like, yeah, call me. I'll come in anytime. And I just. I think that's. I like to leave it there because if I don't call him and he doesn't respond, then I don't have to have bad feel, you know, I don't have that hurt feelings.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

So I just figured just leave it there. And on a good note, he said he would come back in. I never asked him to come back in, but he said he would. Now look at DEZ back in. I think Des might be one of the few who actually mentioned.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, I think so, too.

[Brian Green]

All right, lots of live shows. Tickets are now available. You can go to Instagram, Lincoln Bio type Astro's got it all set up. We're playing Dania Beach. I think it said Dania. Someone scolded us for saying it incorrectly. I don't know. It's near Miami. That's all I gotta say.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It is in between.

[Brian Green]

It's in between Fort Lauderdale and Miami. All right, there you go. And the Dania Beach Improv will be there. The 24th tickets are on sale 7:00pm you know where to go on the 24th. Fifth in Orlando at the Funny Bone. The great Funny Bone in Orlando will be there also. Tickets available on the website, on their websites, or you can go to our Instagram and link and bio. So many folks already said they're coming. Yes, at the Bone. And I think, yes, we're going to be live at the Bone. You get a bone if you get a bone. If you get a bone. We're live at the Bone. And just to let you know, if you want to really roll ruckus crowd come to that Dania Beach? Oh, yeah, because half of Venezuela is gonna show up.

[Sam Morrill]

I can't wait.

[Brian Green]

They're emigrating straight to Dania Beach. I think we might have to review our material for that one and make sure that my wife doesn't get kicked out of her family.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Anyway, those Tickets are available. 212-4333, tcb 212-433-38222. Text us. Questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas. Let us know if you're going to be at one of those shows. We would love to say hello to you. Do us a favor. There's a YouTube channel. It's YouTube.com the commercial break. All of our interviews, selected episodes and clips available there. Please go ahead and follow us at the commercial break on Instagram and TCB podcast on Tik Tok. The Tik Tok is alive, Chrissy. It's alive.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Resurrected.

[Brian Green]

It's resurrected. All right. That's all I could do for today.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I think so.

[Brian Green]

But I love you.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I love you.

[Brian Green]

Best to you.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Best to you.

[Brian Green]

Best to you out there on the podcast universe, including our new friend, Sam Morill. Go watch his special until next time. We always say, we do say, we must say goodbye.

[Sam Morrill]

Goodbye.

[Brian Green]

Sam.