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Brian Green
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Chris Hoadley
No, no, I, I, I love dogs, but no, I, I just walk them. Oh, but he has a dog. Oh, who's gorgeous. Dogs love me. They come up to me.
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Brian Green
Well, that's great.
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah, dogs have a good sense of people, personalities, I like to, I like when I see a dog, I like to try to communicate telepathically with it and let it know that I'm okay. How do you do that? Well, in my head I just say like, you know, you're a good boy and I'm a good boy. What? You say I'm a good boy. Yeah. Well, I am. I'm a good boy. Yeah. But why do you need to tell the dog that? Cause I want the dog to believe that I'm a good boy, too. We're both good boys. We're gonna get along. You know.
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Tim Baltz
On this episode of the.
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Chris Hoadley
Commercial, it fit really quickly. And I think that was another interesting thing because, you know, Eastbound was really centered around Danny's character and then vice principals was a two hander with him and Walton Goggins. And this all of a sudden is their take on an ensemble show. And they did kind of prove that they could move up. I don't know if you would call that an evolution, but it's just different style. And they took on that ensemble style and they gave everyone, this was key. They gave everyone ownership over their parts.
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Brian Green
Yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
And they trusted everyone. Like, I'm not going to come in and change everything, but if the syntax feels weird in my mouth, they're like, change it. Say it how you think the character would say it. You know.
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Tim Baltz
The next episode of the commercial break starts now.
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah, boy.
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Brian Green
Oh, yeah. Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co host of this show, Chris and Joy Hoadley. Best to you, Chris Best. Brian, best to you out there in the podcast universe. Thanks for, for joining us on a DCB infomercial Tuesday. Coming at you with our, our new best friend who I'm sure we just become buddy buddy with everybody. Chrissy.
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Chrissy
I know, I love it.
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Brian Green
Tim Baltz is here. And if you don't know that name, you know that face, you know that guy. He's been, he's been in some, some rather like prestigious television shows. The Righteous Gemstones.
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Chrissy
Yes. In its fourth season.
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Brian Green
In its fourth season and its final season, Better Call Saul. He was, made a guest appearance. That was great. I just rewatched it last night. It's a little appearance, but he made a big impact. Little appearance. Big impact.
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Chrissy
Yeah.
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Brian Green
Better Call Saul. He now has Shrink, which is available, I believe, on Peacock and Deli Boys, which is getting really good reviews on Hulu. I haven't seen it, but I look forward to watching it.
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Chrissy
Yeah, I've Started watching it. It's good. He plays a great. He plays a great character.
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Brian Green
Oh, he does. What's his character in the. In the show?
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Chrissy
He's like the. He's like the investigator, but he also stormed the capitol or something. It's funny, like I said, I'm in the first, like, I've watched, like, the first two.
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Brian Green
Oh, really? Okay. I'm interested to see this show. Isn't this about like a group of, like, gas station guys who turn into a gang or something like that?
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Chrissy
No. Well, it's.
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Brian Green
Are they own a deli.
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Chrissy
It's two sons who have. Their father kind of kept them shielded, but he had a big conglomerate or.
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Brian Green
A big, you know, organized crime.
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Chrissy
He did, yeah. They didn't know that. They just thought he owned delis.
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Brian Green
Okay, there's the deli boys. Yeah, I read a. Like a summary of it.
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Chrissy
He dies and then now they're kind of brought into the fold.
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Brian Green
Very fascinating, Auntie. Very good. All right, well, Tim is in that. He plays. What is the name of his character on Righteous Gemstones? It is bj. Oh, yeah, that's right. He is the husband of. What's her name?
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Chrissy
Ellie Patterson.
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Brian Green
That's right.
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Chrissy
Her actress name. And I can't remember.
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Brian Green
B.J. barnes. He's B.J. barnes on the show.
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Chrissy
He's hilarious.
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Brian Green
He is so good in this show. Everybody is great in this show. They are all just scene stealers. It's hard. Chrissy and I were talking beforehand and we made the. We came to the conclusion that Righteous Gemstones and that whole line of Danny McBride, you know, ensemble cast stuff is similar to the 80s and 90s when Christopher Guest was knocking it out of the park on every single improv movie that he did. And you know, Christopher Guest, all those movies, I think are like 95% improv. They have a bullet point and they're trying to get there, but the rest is improv. And I know Danny has scripts, but it's so funny and so good and so well done that it reminds me of the gut busting movies.
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Chrissy
Oh, yeah, the parodies.
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Brian Green
The parodies, yes. It's so good. And Righteous Gemstones is so on point. It's so prescient.
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Chrissy
We've done so many of those preachers. The preacher features.
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Brian Green
Yeah. It's hard to preach on a full dick.
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Chrissy
That's right. Carl.
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Brian Green
Good old Carl. I was watching some videos of Carl the other day. Oh, yeah, Carl. Carl's back on the scene. Yeah, but he's like a reformed man now. He believes in Jesus, but not without all the. But without all the pomp and circumstance, and I don't believe any of it. This is another way for him to try and make money. I'm sure. I'm sure there's a money grab somewhere here. It's the year of our Lord, the money grab. That's what it is. Everyone's trying to fuck everybody else over so we can all make an extra buck because the end of the world is right around the corner, and we all want to live a little bit of luxury before we die. That's how I feel. That's how I feel.
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Chrissy
Yeah.
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Brian Green
You know, so anyway, so Tim's here. He's also from Joliet, Illinois, which is in near Chicago and very close to my hometown. So I feel like we're already friends in some way. Chicago is this weird place. There's a line in West Wing where the president is talking to his chief of staff and says something about Chicago. And the chief of staff goes. Or the president goes, chicago is one of those weird places that everybody who has ever been there is from Chicago, and they love Chicago, but they don't live there currently.
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Chrissy
Right?
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Brian Green
It's so true. It's so true. Well, you spend a winter in Chicago and see how it goes down with you.
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Chrissy
It's a bonding thing.
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Brian Green
It's a bonding thing when you're a Chicago kid. You're a Chicago kid. You'll always be a Chicago kid. I even. I have friends who have lived there for college years or right after college, they took a job or whatever. And it's like they claim they're from. Even though they got there when they were 20 and left when they were 22, they claim they're from Chicago for the rest of your life. Because if you've ever been to Chicago, it's just one of the coolest fucking places on earth.
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Chrissy
I have been.
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Chris Hoadley
It really is.
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Chrissy
I love it.
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Brian Green
It is like New York without the sharp elbows. It is, in a lot of ways, water.
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Chrissy
Part of it.
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Brian Green
Yeah. It's on the water. It's a big city. It's got a lot of personality. There are a lot of flavors of human beings that live there. Irish, Polish everything, you know, it's all there. It's a big melting pot, and it's got almost a little bit of Southern hospitality. Like, people aren't going to, like, say hi to you when you're walking down the street, but if you get into a conversation with them, they're going to be very nice.
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Chrissy
Yeah.
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Brian Green
Because that's just how Chicago is. Chicago, we're we're nice people.
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Chrissy
It's Midwest, right?
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Brian Green
That's right. We all suffered the same winter. So let us be nice to each other now that we can actually go outdoors. And if you don't think Chicago's cold in the winter, go to Chicago in the winter. It's fucking cold, man. It's fucking cold. Anyway, so Tim from Chicago, then he moved to la and he's. What else has he done? He's been in so many episodes of Comedy Bang Bang, which is.
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Chrissy
He's got. We talked about Shrink.
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Brian Green
Yeah, he's been in. He's. He. He wrote, produced, and I think directed some of the episodes of Shrink when he was in Chicago. He wrote that and then he moved off to la. Better call Salt. Veep. He was in Veep. He was in Parks and Recreation. He's in Drunk History. He's in a web comedy that's called Bajillion Dollar Properties, which I watched an episode of. It's really funny. It's kind of mocking those Million Dollar Mansion. Whatever. Those shows are the most. Those ridiculous shows. You know those real estate agents that are on those shows, they are like Certified Millionaire. Those people are celebrities, number one. Number two, they're certified millionaires. Number three, they get a lot of press coverage. Those people who are in those television shows, especially that one that's on Bravo.
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Chrissy
The Million Dollar listing.
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Brian Green
Yeah, the Million Dollar Listing. They're like certified celebr right now?
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Chrissy
I would guess so.
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Brian Green
Yeah. And that's it. It seems to be like it's too much for one per. Like, you can be. Have a job where you make a couple million dollars a year or you can be a D list celebrity, but you can't have both. And if. If the Real Housewives of Atlanta has taught us anything, it's that you can't have both. You can't be rich and somewhat famous. You have to be one or the other. Because all of those women in the Real Housewives of Atlanta are one or the other. I'm telling you that right now, they're not both, so.
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Chrissy
Except Candy.
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Brian Green
Except Candy. What is Candy Both rich and famous.
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Chrissy
Oh, yeah.
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Brian Green
She's rich.
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Chrissy
Oh, yeah.
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Brian Green
What does she do?
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Chrissy
Oh, God. Well, she was in, you know, all the. The girl. The. She's done a lot with music. She's huge in the music industry.
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Brian Green
Oh, she is for one.
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Chrissy
Yeah. And then for.
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Brian Green
Yeah, okay. Yeah, you're right.
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Chrissy
Businesses. Candy. What? Candy Burris? Yeah, Candy Burris.
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Brian Green
Candy Burrs. Yeah. She used to come up to the.
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Chrissy
She's got like a sex Toy line. She's got a lot of different. She's act. She. She does, like, movie stuff and.
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Chris Hoadley
Oh.
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Chrissy
So, yeah, she's big.
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Brian Green
Okay, so Candy's out there. Candy used to come up to the studio. Yeah. And remember there was a studio next to the studio. There was, like an actual music studio next to the studio called 12 Music or something like that. She would always be in there to be. A lot of celebrities would go in and out of that. The real studio. And then there was the fake studio where we were doing an Internet radio show. To no one. To no one.
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Chrissy
You're ahead of your time.
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Brian Green
Yes. I remember the first day. The first day we, like, actually broadcast, we had like, 1300 people on the stream. And I was so excited. I'm like, this is gonna go straight to the moon. And every day we lost a hundred people. Every day we lost a hundred people for thirteen days in a row till we had no one. I mean, sometimes I would look on that stream and it would say two. And I'd realize that there were two people downstairs watching the stream to make sure that it was on. And I was like, well, I guess tomorrow I could come in late.
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Chrissy
My friend Kimmy did the show with you. She did.
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Brian Green
Kimmy and Ali did it for a while. I mean, like, on occasion, you'd have a couple hundred people that would be watching, but it wasn't very often that that would happen. And most of the time it was in the tens or maybe a hundred people. But then there was sometimes where, like on a Monday where it would just be nobody. Nobody. I'm talking about scam. Call FM in case you got go. You'll have to. You have to listen to every episode of the commercial break to know what I'm talking about. So get started right now, please. Go ahead. There's a lady on the telephone that's saying she's going through the entire catalog of the commercial break. Wow. And I'm like, that's going to take you five years. And that's if you listen to them back to back. I don't know how you're going to do that. Do you have kids or a job? Because that's not going to work. It's just not going to work. Okay. Anyway, Tim Baltz is here with us. Why don't we do this? Let's. Let's take a short break, and when we get back through the magic of tele podcasting, Chrissy, we are going to have Tim right here on this big screen in front of us so that we can talk to him and interrupt him every five seconds, according to most people on the Internet. How's that?
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Chrissy
That sounds good.
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Brian Green
All right, we'll take a break. We'll be back with Tim.
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Rachel
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Brian Green
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Brian Green
Tim's here with us now. Tim, thanks so much for joining us today. You are in the middle of a whirlwind of there's an embarrassment of television with Tim Boltz in it because you've got Deli Boys, you've got Righteous Gemstones. Deli Boys getting great reviews. Righteous Gemstones. You have to have your head in a hole not to know what a funny, fantastic show that is. Chrissy and I were, were, you know, making comparisons is how human beings sometimes get through life. And we were saying that we feel like Righteous Gemstones is like the Christopher Guest of our time, like Righteous Gemstones. And that crew doing such great comedic work is like the Christopher Guest of our time. You guys are just a group of human beings that are so funny.
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Chris Hoadley
Are you?
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Chrissy
I don't see how you don't laugh.
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Brian Green
Yeah.
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Chrissy
Every time you get on set, I mean, just looking at everybody, you know.
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Chris Hoadley
The days are like, you know, 14, 15 hours long. So you get the laughs out like pretty early with your first second cup of coffee. And then like when the work starts, your, your, you know that if you laugh, it adds time to the day.
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Brian Green
So, yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
Something can be funny, but it's eventually like your brain gets hardwired to be like, yeah, that's good. But if you ruin that take, that's 10 more minutes, you know, Good point. But yeah, that's, I mean, that's very nice. You, those guys, I was a huge fan of McBride and Jody Hill and David Gordon Green and the whole Roughhouse production team going into this and had obviously like a lot of people devoured. He spouted down. And I'd actually auditioned for vice principals.
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Brian Green
And hadn't gotten another great show by Danny McBride.
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Chris Hoadley
Fantastic show. And, like, I mean, I think when I first got an iPad, the first thing that I. The first movie that I bought was Foot Fist Way. And I was like, oh, this is great. Like, I haven't seen this. Like, the one thing of theirs that I haven't seen. And it was the start of all of it, you know, And I'm watching it on the plane. You know, I'm like. I'm, like, halfway back in economy watching it on the plane. I'm like, huge tits are on the screen. And I'm like, whoa, wait a minute. So I. I felt very honored because I think as a huge fan of comedy, too, and this is not something where I'm like, you know, hey, compliment me for being part of this. But I really felt like. I love. You know, I've watched a ton of comedy. I've devoured, like, British comedy. My mom's from France. I've watched a ton of, like, French and European comedies and things like that. Anything that I could get my hands on. And I think that, you know, a lot of mainstream stuff, it relies on casting stars, and that's always been the case. But I think what makes McBride's and their team's comedy so enduring and funny and why it stands out is that they cast in a way where the ensembles just always feel perfect. You know, there's no one sticking out where you're like, that person's really good. And I really know them, and I've been following their career. But what are they doing in this?
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Brian Green
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
They never do that. And even when they do cast names, they're. They're perfectly cast. And so just getting cast in it, I thought, like, wow, it's an honor that they think that I would fit into a world like that. And. And, you know, I got. I mean, from the second that I auditioned, I got to test. When I did the HBO test, I got to test with Edie Patterson. And the way that we were improvising, I'm like, this is going to be a great.
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Brian Green
This is great. You know, I think you're right about something in these shows, specifically this line, this lineage of shows with Danny McBride. Obviously, Danny is a showstopper. He's a scene stealer. But there are no scene stealers in the ensemble. They're all scene stealers. You guys are all doing these nuggets where it's like, like, that is so fucking funny. And you're right about this. Sometimes in the comedic ensemble, there's one standout, like, oh, Steve Carell's really good in that movie, you know, and 40 year old virgin. Then there's a couple other throwaway lines. But in this ensemble, specifically, so many seasons, so good. Everybody is comedically on point. And I think that's what makes the show so brilliant, much like a Christopher Guest movie, is that everybody is stealing the scenes. And I think that's a testament to the writers and a testament to you and the team who are gelling so well. And I. Yeah, again, I don't know how you. I know that it takes an extra. It'll get an extra 10 minutes. I don't know how you don't just giggle your way through it. I mean.
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Chris Hoadley
I mean. I mean, there are a lot of. There are a lot of days where we do. I'm not. I'm not gonna lie.
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Brian Green
Like, you guys filmed in Charleston.
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Chris Hoadley
We filmed in Charleston, South Carolina. Yeah. And.
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Brian Green
Yeah.
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Chrissy
Not far from us.
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Chris Hoadley
No, not far at all. I mean, it's. It's a gorgeous town. And, you know, it's. The food and hospitality scene down there is unparalleled. It really is kind of shocking how high the bar is for restaurants.
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Chrissy
It's a great scene.
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Brian Green
Oh, man. Yeah. It's one of the first, I think, foodie towns. It really puts the Southeast on the map. And if you. I mean, Charleston is one of my favorite cities in the country for so many reasons. It's quaint, but it's large enough that you've got everything. The food scene is there. It's one of the most visually appealing cities in the country. Yeah. In the history. Does HBO give you a nice mansion on the island over there? What's the scene for? How do they do they hook you up with a nice condo on Rainbow Road? What goes on?
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Chris Hoadley
You know, it was. It was fascinating because we were. You know, we filmed the pilot there in 2018, and then we came back in 2019 to. To start season one. And so we saw so much growth while we were there. I remember in 2018 being like, this is kind of a sleepy town. Like, you can get. If you're in Mount Pleasant, you know, you're zooming off to Sullivan's island or Iop or whatever, and it doesn't take long. You know, it's like eight minutes. And then by the time we were finishing last year, there's massive traffic jams. You know, you're like. You get on Ben Coleman I mean, this is all for the locals, but you get on Ben Coleman, you're like, where the. Are all these people going? Where do they come from? And the locals have two attitudes about it. You know, they're like. They're like, ah, it's terrible. It's changed. It's gotten so busy. And then the others are like, this is a sign of a thriving city, and we love it. And it helps, you know, prop up so many businesses. The first season, though, I actually lived with Edie Patterson and Cassidy Freeman on Solitary island in kind of a beach mansion.
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Chrissy
How fun.
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Chris Hoadley
And it was like summer camp the whole season. We were riding our bikes to dinner. I mean, it was really like the type of experience. Like, I'm on location right now in Wilmington. I'm in an Airbnb. And, you know, no offense to this Airbnb, but it ain't what we were used to in Charleston.
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Brian Green
Yeah, that's. It's not. It's not the same vibe. Wilmington and Charleston. Not the same vibe. Wilmington. Beautiful in its own way.
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah, I love it.
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Brian Green
Yeah, yeah, you. I love that idea. I love the idea that you're, like, at Sullivan's island filming what will become one of the best comedy television series of generation. That's just. And I think probably I got to imagine. And we have so many comedians on this show, and obviously you're a comedic actor, but we don't talk to many actors, like, proper. Right. People who are doing these big shows. That must lend to the vibe on set. When it feels like we're in a nice place, we're having fun, we're riding our bikes to work, we're going out to dinner with each other. There must be something magical that's happening on and offset. And that must lend to what hap. What you see on the screen. That vibe, I would imagine.
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah, absolutely. There was synergy from day one, too. From the first time we did the table read. You're looking around and it was like a rogues gallery. You know, John Goodman's here, you know.
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Brian Green
Yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
And, like, Adam Devine's here and Edie's here, and Cassidy has been working since she was like, 19, you know, and Skyler Jasondo's been working since he was, like, seven. It was really Greg Allen Martin. I mean, he was.
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Brian Green
Yeah, he was on.
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Chris Hoadley
He was on Baywatch.
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Brian Green
Like, that's true. Yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
Yes. And the amount of, like, small world connections that we had between us, it. It fit really quickly. And I think that was another interesting thing because, you know, Eastbound was really centered around Danny's character. And then vice principals was a two hander with him and Walton Goggins. And then this all of a sudden is their take on an ensemble show. And they did kind of prove that they could move up. I don't know if you would call that an evolution, but it's just different style. And they took on that ensemble style and they gave everyone. This was key. They gave everyone ownership over their parts.
- [25:32]
Brian Green
Yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
And they trusted everyone. Like, I'm not going to come in and change everything, but if the syntax feels weird in my mouth, they're like, change it. Say it how you think the character would say it. You know, or if, you know, we got the script, then do this take for you guys, you know, you know, say whatever you want on this one or you can go off. Feel free to go off page or whatever. So we would always kind of find new things through that process. And also it just empowers you to own the character. And. And then you're seeing everyone else do it and you think, okay, well, everybody really knows who they are. And. And the truth is, like, in most seasons of a show, you're halfway through and you're like, is it good? Are we doing it? Because you're figuring it out, especially in the first season. And that one was just razor sharp from the beginning, everyone knew who they were, what their role was. And you had a sense that something special was happening from the pilot.
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Brian Green
Have you worked with directors or on shows or in whatever it is where the directors, the writers, the producers really have an iron grip over their vision? And it's like, I hear, I hear it in my head this way. You need to play it this way. And then you get to righteous gemstones and they say, you own the character. And if it doesn't feel right to you, then I want to hear what you have to say, or I want to, I want to hear how you would interpret what's on the page. Is there, does it feel better one way or the other? Just depend on the situation. Do you like that as an actor for someone to tell you this is how it is and I envision it this way and this is my vision. I want you to follow it. And then the, you know, you're having the opposite experience. What feels better to you or just depends on the situation?
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Chris Hoadley
I mean, that's a great question, because you really do. That's a, that's a spectrum. Those two things are on either side. You know, I've had, I've come in as the toughest thing to do is come in as a guest star during the, the filming of a season. Whether it's the first one or later.
- [27:35]
Brian Green
Better Call Saul.
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Chris Hoadley
Well, yeah, well, that one.
- [27:37]
Brian Green
Yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
That's like the best, that's the best audition I ever got. I literally got an audition that said please prepare a voice for a talking toilet. And I was like, what? And then when I did the audition, they literally like, I, I did the audition as the character and then they're like, can you please step off camera and do the toilet? And I was like, okay. So I like step off camera. And I'm like, gosh, you're so big. Give it to me, Chandler. And they're, they're all laughing and it's just a blank wall that they're recording and laughing that. But that one was. I think when casting is doing its job and you feel like they have and you're walking into a situation where they all think you're the right person for the job, then you don't really have those. When you walk into a situation and you feel like two of the executive producers want me there and the director and another executive producer don't want me there. That's the tricky part. That's the part where you're like, I can feel that they're fighting and their visions are not aligned and I'm going to get squeezed by this. Disagree.
- [28:36]
Brian Green
Yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
You know you're going to get pulled. Yeah, yeah. And, and I in those situations, like if I can feel the director, I'm not giving a director something. I'll just be like, give me a line read like I, I don't, I'm not precious about that. It's going to make everyone's job easier. Just tell me how you want it to say. Because I came in with a vision, I got cast and it now it's not working so let's problem solve and figure it out. So it's probably. I do like it when I do like the other side a little bit more. I think anybody would where you show up and they're like, what do you got? Whatever you do, it's gonna be great. And then we'll tweak it and we'll get it there. Because then you feel like your decision making is part of the process. And, and I've seen that on the, you know, because the, the show shrink which is on Peacock. It's. I was one of the co creators and I wrote on the season was one of the eps and was the lead actor and when someone would come in making a strong choice you have this relief. You're like, oh, thank God.
- [29:39]
Brian Green
Thank God. They don't have a choice.
- [29:41]
Chris Hoadley
We don't have to mold them in the moment because time is. Time is money, you know?
- [29:44]
Brian Green
Yeah.
- [29:45]
Chris Hoadley
So when they would make a choice to be like, okay, great. They're like, 95% there. This is going to be fine. And that feels good. It makes everyone feel safe. So if you're casting and you know that this person already made the choice, then they're showing up and you have way less to worry about.
- [30:01]
Brian Green
Yeah. It's like they're moving in a direction so I don't have to babysit them. And they're giving color to this character that I created. And maybe, you know, I don't know. I don't know because I've never been on a set, but, you know, I know you hear the stories that there are people like James Cameron, who it's my way or it's the highway, and I don't give a shit. And he's not tactful about it. And then there's very collaborative, you know, directors and writers who say, I see it this way, but I hired you for the part. And so you tell me how you see it.
- [30:33]
Chris Hoadley
I love that, you know, I want to be in the next Avatar, so I love that. I want to be on Avatar.
- [30:40]
Brian Green
You just want those points on the back end. That's what you want or whatever.
- [30:44]
Chris Hoadley
Absolutely. Are you kidding? Avatar, back end. Yes.
- [30:47]
Brian Green
Yeah. That's amazing that that guy has just had a string. I mean, just a run. Like, run. Yeah. Everything he does turns to a billion dollar.
- [30:57]
Chris Hoadley
I saw this on Instagram the other day. There was this post that was like, his wife watched Avatar, Air and Fire or whatever it's called, and cried for four hours afterwards. You're like, come on, she needs medication. What are you talking about? Yeah, you're crying about something else.
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Brian Green
Yeah, you're crying about. You're not crying about the music. Billion dollar opportunity. Well, she hasn't done too bad herself either, so. So. So tell me about the deli Boys, because. So shrink. Critically acclaimed. Righteous gemstones. Critically acclaimed. Very funny. And then our deli boys is getting great reviews also. So tell us about deli Boys, because this just dropped along with righteous gemstones also.
- [31:39]
Chris Hoadley
Yeah, what, like less than two weeks ago or something? Yeah, they dropped three days apart, which is. Which is rare. Like, those things line up so rarely. I think the last time it happened for me, this episode of Chicago PD and Veep came out like, this is amazing. The. The deli Boys was shot in Chicago and cheated for Philadelphia. So for me, it was like a homecoming. I got to come back, and there was a lot of crew that had worked on Shrink that was working on Deli Boys, and I hadn't seen them in, like, eight or nine years.
- [32:12]
Chrissy
Oh, nice.
- [32:13]
Chris Hoadley
That was really lovely. Yeah, some people from the camera department and art department and. And wardrobe, and that was. It was really special because Shrink was the thing that moved me out to LA back in 2014. And I never thought I'd live in LA, but we sold a show from Chicago, which is super rare, and then just had to go. So Deli Boys got to come back and, like, spend time with family and friends. And the cast was amazing. It was another one of those things. You walk in and you don't know what the vibe is, and you're a little hesitant. You know, you're like, I don't know what it is. I'm coming as a guest star for six episodes. That's. That's a long time if the vibe is bad. And the vibe was immaculate. It was incredible. Asfali Sagar Shaikh, Porno Jaggernath and Brian George. Like, the whole cast, they were just phenomenal. Ali Ruddy was my scene partner, and she crushed it. And we had a great time, and it flew by. That's the other thing that was like season one of Gemstones. It just flew by. And the next thing you know, you're.
- [33:16]
Brian Green
Like, man, give our audience. Give our audience a flavor of what Deli Boys is about. For those who haven't seen it.
- [33:24]
Chris Hoadley
So I saw this in one of the reviews, which I thought was a great way to describe it. They said it was Guy Ritchie meets Succession.
- [33:32]
Brian Green
I'm about that all day long. Guy Ritchie meets Succession, yeah.
- [33:36]
Chris Hoadley
There were so many people. I think it dropped on like, a Thursday or a Friday. And there were so many people that by that first weekend, they had binged the whole thing. Or they said, I watched everything two days, so it's very bingeable. I watched personally, I watched the whole thing in two days. And I have a lot of friends that are like, oh, it kind of feels like Coen Brothers. But when they. They came to me with it, they said Gemstones was a comp for them because it lives in this world of, you know, it's a family drama. Like, that's the conflict that's driving the story. It has a lot of heart, along with the comedy and the violence and the gore and. And there's a lot of kind of, like, suspense and intrigue and I. I was just really, really impressed. It was. The executive producers were Jenny Connor, Norris Silver, Michelle Nader, and they were incredible.
- [34:28]
Brian Green
I mean, Nora Silver. Nora is legendary. Yeah.
- [34:31]
Chris Hoadley
And Jenny Connor did Girls on HBO and a ton of other things. And they're, they're. I mean, really, like all of them are kind of like. It was again, like a rogues gallery. And the cool thing about the cast is, you know, a lot of these people you've seen work for a long time, but they've never had a cast. That's all the leads are South Asian, you know, Indian, Pakistani, and they all now are like the leads of the show as opposed to the side characters. And so the. The vibe on set was just. Everyone was so grateful. And we would go film and you'd see the South Asian community come out, like extras or whatever, and they're like, everyone. I mean, my heart was just bursting seeing how appreciative and excited everybody was. And it was cool to be part of something really special. And then I got to meet Chris Elliott and work with him for a day.
- [35:24]
Brian Green
Oh, really?
- [35:25]
Chris Hoadley
That blew my fucking mind. He's in the last episode or the second to last episode. Really?
- [35:32]
Brian Green
Yeah.
- [35:32]
Chris Hoadley
And he. This was crazy.
- [35:34]
Brian Green
How did, how did he. How is he getting involved?
- [35:36]
Chris Hoadley
So the Bear films in Chicago?
- [35:40]
Brian Green
Yeah, yeah.
- [35:40]
Chris Hoadley
His daughter, Abby Elliott is on the Bear.
- [35:43]
Brian Green
Right.
- [35:43]
Chris Hoadley
She plays the sister. And he was there. He and his wife were there babysitting. And Jenny Connor had reached out to me. She was like, hey, you know everybody in Chicago. So, like, can you recommend some people that would be good for, you know, this part or that part or like, who do you know? So I'm sending her like, you know, reams of paper with like, different.
- [36:03]
Brian Green
I love every.
- [36:03]
Chris Hoadley
I love everybody there. And I'm like, this person would be great. That person would be great. And then she said, okay, well, for this one part, hold off. I think we got someone. I was like, oh, okay. All right. And then she comes back, she's like, it was Chris Elliott. He's here babysitting. And he really had been like, since COVID he had kind of like just taken a break and been like on grandpa duty and chilling in Maine. And he is one of my all time heroes. So I spent an entire day just kind of like teetering behind him and then being like, so. So on Letterman.
- [36:39]
Brian Green
He is brilliant. He's a genius. And you haven't seen much of him lately. And so that's crazy that he just pops out of the woodwork. Hey, I'm babysitting. I Don't mind coming in and doing a day worth of work.
- [36:51]
Chris Hoadley
I'm sure you've had this, too. Like, you ever meet someone and you're like, you've been a fan for so long, they're like, ubiquitous in your brain.
- [36:58]
Brian Green
Yes, yes.
- [36:59]
Chris Hoadley
And then you meet them and you're like, it's them. And they're doing their thing, like, right.
- [37:04]
Brian Green
Here, right in front of me. Yes. He was doing.
- [37:07]
Chris Hoadley
He was doing, like, Chris Elliott stuff right in front of me. And we had a take and they. I think Jenny Connor was directing that episode, and she's like, you know, you guys say whatever you want. Like, you guys just go wild. Okay. I know. I trust that you'll get the scene. And then I, like, really kind of stuck to the script and came back. She's like, you okay? You didn't really improvise. I was like, I'm just stunned.
- [37:28]
Brian Green
It's Chris Elliot. Chris Elliot.
- [37:30]
Chris Hoadley
Sorry. I'll shake it off. But, like, I had one take. Yeah, yeah. Jaw on the floor.
- [37:38]
Brian Green
We have those moments all the time here because. And, you know, it's a. It can be a little bit surreal. You know, they say there's like an old saying that never meet your heroes, right? Because they may not be what you. They're all. They're never going to be what you see on TV or whatever. That's the character. Character that they're playing, or that's the. The jokey part of them on stage. But so many times I've found that when the person is sitting in front of us and we're kind of, you know, fanboying or fan girling or we're really. We really like their work that they end up being so much cooler than we ever thought they would be. And, you know, we've met so many of our heroes already here, but 90% of the time, I have to say, I find myself engaged in just like a normal man's conversation. Normal person's conversation with them. And I'm like, wow, they really are cool on. Outside of their character or outside of whatever they're doing they're doing on stage.
- [38:29]
Chris Hoadley
You.
- [38:29]
Brian Green
I want to talk to you about. Shrink a little bit, because this show, critically acclaimed. How did you come up with the idea? And it's streaming on Peacock right now. Is that right?
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Chrissy
Came out on Peacock, right?
- [38:39]
Chris Hoadley
Yeah, Yeah, I think it was. I mean, it bounced around. It was on Hulu for. For a little while. It was. It was on the NBC app. It was originally on ciso, but we. We originally made it a friend And I as an improvised web series in like 2011. And then there was this thing that used to happen called the New York Television Festival. This is right when like kind of indie TV is exploding. You know, end of the 2000s, early 2010s, the kind of tech behind, you know, the production of stuff had been so democratized that you could get footage, you could get the gear together and you could film your own stuff and it could look pretty good, you know. And I didn't really have any experience in that. And the co creator, Ted, he had a friend who was, who had gone through medical school and then he hadn't matched with a university hospital. So like when you graduate medical school you have to match with a university hospital and that's where you go do your residency.
- [39:33]
Brian Green
Yeah, yeah.
- [39:34]
Chris Hoadley
And he didn't. So he was half a million dollars in debt and he was living in his parents basement. And so our, the genesis of the show is that, that a character like that is he decides to defer his student loans by starting to do clinical therapy. But for clinical therapy you have to register 2000 hours of free therapy. Like you have to administer those sessions.
- [39:59]
Brian Green
2000 hours.
- [40:01]
Chris Hoadley
2000 hours. And then, then you can start getting paid. But while you're doing that you defer the half a million dollars in debt. So this character that happens to him and his basically like, you know, his parents co signed on his loan so they need it to happen. And he's doing these sessions out of his parents garage.
- [40:17]
Brian Green
Yeah.
- [40:17]
Chris Hoadley
And he finds a therapist to supervise his hours. And it's the story of like him kind of trying to get better. And he's doing all these unconventional things and he's trying to do therapy outside of the garage, which is with his patients, which is unethical.
- [40:32]
Chrissy
Right.
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Chris Hoadley
But it was great. And it was this thing that organically developed and we turned it into a pilot in 2012 and we took it to New York Television Festival and we ended up winning best comedy and criticism award. And then Gene Dominion Productions picked it up and helped us develop it and we pitched it in 2013 and we sold it to this place called Pivot, which doesn't exist anymore. And then it sat in development for two and a half years there, which was very frustrating. Then they gave it back and then I was working on this other show, Bajillion dollar Properties on CISO and.
- [41:01]
Brian Green
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [41:02]
Chris Hoadley
So then they, they, they knew who I was and so we went in there and we're like, well look, we have this thing and we had Made a pilot and the pilot was really good. And so it was this calling card that kept kind of like people would pass it around in these indie circles. And because we were like a Vimeo staff pick, I mean, it picked up like all the awards that you could on that little circuit.
- [41:27]
Brian Green
Yeah, sure.
- [41:27]
Chris Hoadley
And we sold it to them. And then the next thing we knew, we were, we were writing it. We wrote eight episode season and came out Chicago. We filmed it and then it came out and. And then like two months after it came out, we found out that all of CISO was going away. So we're like, what though? And they had just ordered a season two. That was the tough part.
- [41:49]
Brian Green
Oh, my God.
- [41:50]
Chris Hoadley
Yeah. But that, that also is like, that's. That was kind of like a. The canary in the coal mine, so to speak, of the streaming age, you know?
- [42:01]
Brian Green
Yes.
- [42:02]
Chris Hoadley
That now people are seeing that happen all the time. You'll see an entire series just get disappeared even though it was a fan favorite. You'll see entire movies never get released, even though they're, you know, $50 million for some tax write off and.
- [42:18]
Brian Green
Yeah.
- [42:18]
Chris Hoadley
And you don't own the licensing. So right now we're just thrilled that it's on Peacock and people can see it. And it was, I mean, people were like, like, you know, when it was orphaned, when it wasn't on any platforms, people would reach out and be like, hey, just so you know, like, people pirated it and it's over here now. Yeah.
- [42:39]
Brian Green
Wow, that must be an amazing feeling and an amazingly frustrating feeling. Right? It's like, wow, this. I know I have a good product and it just can't find a home that will run with it in the way that it needs to be run with. And Chrissy and I have talked about this all the time. We've talked about this. Just with so many people who have come on the show, I have this feeling, this, like, I know this is kind of contrarian, but my feeling is that in some ways the streamers and OTT broke something that wasn't necessary. Broke something that necessarily didn't need to be broken. Right. And that these, some of these television shows that are fantastic fan favorites, no doubt they're getting. You can't find them or three and done, they're three and out. Because the streamers, that's not where the new subscribers lie. They don't lie in season number four. They lie in the brand new season of the brand new television show that gets all the PR and that brings people in the door by season number four. It's an established audience that's already here paying us a subscribers fee. Why are we going to spend money on it? And that is, that's terrible for us as the viewers. And sometimes, you know, I forgot who was saying this to us, but somebody, somebody who was just here said, you know, sometimes I feel like the networks or the television show or the writers and producers owe it to people to wrap up some of these storylines and they never get a chance to do that. They just go away.
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah, I mean it's, that's disruption, Right. Disruption is just the shell game. And they sold it to us as if it was this thing that was going to improve upon a product and it didn't. It actually made the product, the access to the product worse, right?
- [44:17]
Brian Green
Yes.
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Chris Hoadley
And what's funny is that the success of a lot of these streaming platforms is like the bedrock of a lot of these things are where can I find the long running show that I want as a comfort watch? Where is Cheers streaming? Where is Seinfeld streaming? Where is Friends streaming? Where's Parks and Rec streaming? Right. Where's Abbott elementary streaming? Like these are the things that we keep coming back to as foundational, which previous networks used to have in syndication and now they're just moving it around trying to keep everyone from subscribing over here or keep everyone subscribing here and then like canceling this one, but then resubscribing because of other stuff. So it's built in this way that forces you to kind of spend way more than you did when you had a cable package and a few simple add ons.
- [45:05]
Brian Green
It's the same.
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Chris Hoadley
And the future is most likely a bundling of a few different services together. Yeah, conglomerates that are going to come together and then instead of buying one cable package, you'll have to buy three because it'll be Disney, espn, blah, blah, blah. It'll be NBC Universal and like, you know, Warner or something like that. Like they're going to start merging out of necessity.
- [45:29]
Brian Green
They're already doing it. They're already doing it. So the, so the model that they took and disrupted and broken a million pieces is now coming back to the model that we always had. There are television, there are ads running again in the streamers. Now we don't have a whole seasons dropping at the same time. They're dropping week after week. The streamers figured out that doesn't work. So let's now go back to every week. Every Thursday at 9:00 we'll drop this new episode and now, it's so funny because I have cable, but on my cable, I watch Netflix through my cable. It's just another television channel. It's just another television channel and one that has a ton of money to pour into content, but there's so much content that the Discovery is really difficult. And unless somebody tells me about it or I have time to bounce around. We found this for you, which I never do, then I don't get to see the new things that are deep in that platform. So it's an embarrassment of riches in one way. And in one way, it's just so thin. It's so hard to find that I can understand the incredible frustration when you have such a great television show like Shrink, and you're like, oh, my gosh, this could be four or five, ten seasons long in syndication, and we could make such a great product over and over again, and then it just gets stuck bouncing around everywhere. That's where it must be kind of a blessing to be with a company or a studio like hbo, because it's, you know. You know, you're the. In. The Right to stem Zones is obviously a breakout hit for them, but you know that they're. You're going to get the proper promotion and the proper platforming and the proper discovery, at least in that universe, that it's got a chance. Right. It's got a chance to go the distance. Yeah.
- [47:07]
Chris Hoadley
And after. After Shrink, like, that happened and CISO went under, I was like, I need a job. And do you know who Jordan Klepper is? He's on the Daily Show.
- [47:18]
Brian Green
I do, yeah, of course.
- [47:20]
Chris Hoadley
So Jordan. Jordan had the show called the Opposition, which was on right after the Daily show for, like, a year.
- [47:26]
Brian Green
Oh, yeah.
- [47:28]
Chris Hoadley
It was kind of like Colbert Report, but updated for, like, the Infowars era, you know? Yeah. And. And he was. He was like, he's looking for correspondence, and they reached out to me, and I had. That's called field work, when the correspondents go out into the field and man on the street stuff. And.
- [47:43]
Brian Green
Yeah, yeah.
- [47:43]
Chris Hoadley
And those. That's notoriously, like, really difficult. But I needed a job, so I auditioned and I wrote a character that was kind of like his little brother kind of antagonizing him because he was my first improv coach in Chicago. And I always.
- [47:59]
Brian Green
Jordan.
- [47:59]
Chris Hoadley
Yeah, he was. And I. I always kind of had that. That rapport with him, you know, where I'm, like, kind of annoying him, and he's like, all right, all right. And so I wrote that into the character, and it worked. And they Flew me out and I tested, and it went great. So they're like, okay, you're hired. So then I had to do field work, and it was in 2017. 18.
- [48:19]
Brian Green
Oh, my God.
- [48:20]
Chris Hoadley
So I'm going to, like, CPAC and Roy Moore rallies and Steve Bannon speeches.
- [48:25]
Brian Green
And wearing a bulletproof vest.
- [48:28]
Chris Hoadley
I mean, almost. I was wearing. Well, I was wearing, like, a American flag T shirt that I got.
- [48:32]
Brian Green
Yeah.
- [48:33]
Chris Hoadley
Which was better than a bulletproof vest.
- [48:35]
Brian Green
Sure.
- [48:36]
Chris Hoadley
And. And that was. That was a really, really tough job. I loved everyone that worked there, but it was really kind of soul sucking because you're seeing these people that are. They're so, you know, they're sucked into this cult. It's right when, like, QAnon is coming out. We were on the ground when it first came out, being like, so what do you think? You know, when people are like, yeah, it's real. It was really dark.
- [48:59]
Brian Green
And then you notice QAnon went away. Did anybody notice that? QAnon just went away. QAnon was gonna save the world and the big reveal, and the whole world is going to change, and it just went away. Just went away.
- [49:10]
Chris Hoadley
And that experience, too, where it was hard to draw an audience from that because everyone was kind of in denial at the time. So I went from shrink to that, and then I landed on Gemstones and hbo and, you know, my reps had been like, are you gonna. You want to pitch something else? You want to get another show out there? And I was so heartbroken from the shrink stuff that, to be honest, I was like, no, this is good. I feel really blessed and lucky to be in the. This company of people. They're all top notch in what they do, you know, literally, like, some of the best in the business and whatever roles they. They fill and how they're perceived by the industry and with Roughhouse, that's just. I mean, they. They're visionaries. They really are some of the most underrated people, at least of the 21st century. And it was. It was such a gift to just come in and be like, what do you need me to do? I'll, like. I mean. And that character BJ runs through brick walls with those guys. We were jokingly. I was. When we were doing press, someone had asked about season one. I get hit in the face with a stake. I get tased. I think I get beat up. I fall off. I fall off like a fence.
- [50:25]
Brian Green
That's right.
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Chris Hoadley
Season two, I have, like, the baptism. I. I get. I get shot. Season three, I get a ninja star in my Head. I have to fight a naked guy this season. I had to learn how to pole dance.
- [50:42]
Brian Green
And you took this seriously? I. I read an article where you, like, went to class for like two and a half hours a day.
- [50:48]
Chrissy
That's the poor strength. I've tried those classes before. They're hard.
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Chris Hoadley
No joke. Chrissy, testify to this. Testify to this.
- [50:55]
Brian Green
Yes.
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Chrissy
They are so hard. Seriously.
- [50:58]
Brian Green
I don't doubt it.
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Chrissy
It's very. It takes a lot of strength. Arm strength, leg. I mean, all of it.
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Chris Hoadley
I was I lucky that the person that they just coincidentally picked happened to be like. It was the closest pole studio to production headquarters. And they were like, oh, this one? Yeah, the woman running it, Tanya Crisper, bless her heart. She is the president of the US Aerial Federation. So basically, if pole. If aerial. If aerial sports gotten into the Olympics, she would be the Olympic coach. Wow. And she was training me and I came in and I'm like, look, I'm not very flexible, you know, Like, I don't know about my.
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Brian Green
I'm a fish out of water.
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah. And the first routine, which is in episode two, which is out now, I. I was supposed to get upside down, and I was like, right? There's no fucking way. And. And she's like, with all due respect, I think you're gonna do this entire routine by yourself. I designed it so that you could do it. And I'm like, there's no way. And she's like, don't take this the wrong way. Your body is built for pull.
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Chrissy
I love it.
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Chris Hoadley
And she was. She was right. By the fourth session, I got upside down. By the fifth session, I did the entire routine and we're there high fiving each other, being like.
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Chrissy
It'S inspiring me to go back to these classes because I quit after like two.
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Brian Green
It's hard.
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Chris Hoadley
Well, you gotta pace yourself. I went too hard on the pole and I hurt my shoulder and my elbow.
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Chrissy
Too hard on the pole.
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Chris Hoadley
I went too hard on the damn pole.
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Chrissy
It's so fantastic.
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Brian Green
You are the kind of the punching bag of that, but it's so goofy and lovable and absurd in some ways. I love the character. I think it's great. There aren't too many characters that I don't love, and you're working with some of the best. I mean, you got Danny McBride and Edie Patterson. Edie Patterson.
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Chrissy
The two of you just. I mean, just the back and forth. And what she says. What did she say the other day? I mean, I'm watching it, you know, I'm. It makes me slick yeah. And then like all the. It's just the flirting.
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Rachel
The writing.
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Brian Green
Yeah, the writing is so quick and like witty. But I have to ask, who's you like John working with John Goodman. We were just talking about before you came on, we were like, wow. Just sitting in the same room with John Goodman. I mean, ever since Roseanne, I think we've all thought of him as our best friend. It's like he played that character so welcoming to. It's inviting to the. The audience. It felt like that's your dad, your uncle, your best friend, your butt, however you saw it at the time. And he parlayed that into a career of epic proportions. And he's like, in my mind, he's 10ft tall. He's a legend.
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Chris Hoadley
Oh, yeah, yeah, he really is. And you know, being from Illinois, like, that was of course, you know, Roseanne.
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Brian Green
Roseanne was our homegirl. Yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
That house, like, I knew I did an episode of the Connors a few years ago and being in that on the studio lot and in that set and seeing the living room, I'm like, this is. It was surreal because that house was so many of my friends houses.
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Brian Green
Yes, mine too.
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah. And yeah, I think very blessed with that set. Like, Adam Devine felt like someone that I had gone to high school with pretty instantly. Tony Cavallaro I knew since 2012 when we did Montreal just for laughs together. Edie, like, it was. It was super easy from the get go with Edie. And that was. That made the job so fun and fulfilling. And with Jon, you're. I always said it's like watching a marble statue starting to move where like everything.
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Brian Green
That's a good way to put it. Yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
Everything is perfect. Like, every take I would be like, huh? There Is flawless. But it was interesting in its own way. And I would learn so much from watching him that very quickly, season one, I was like, okay. Jody Hill would say this.
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Brian Green
He.
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Chris Hoadley
After a good take, he'd be like, I was just watching a movie.
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Chrissy
Yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
Like, he had no notes. That was his way of saying, like, no notes. He was like, I was just watching the movie, guys. And with John, quickly, I had to be like, I can't watch the movie from inside the scene. I gotta get over the fact that it's Jon and I gotta appreciate the fact that he is an incredible professional. We had a scene together in season two and off camera he's trying to get better. That, I think was the thing that I was most impressed by.
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Chrissy
Yeah, he's still working at it.
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah. Like, he's we did his coverage first and then turned around and did mine. And he's still working the scene from his side of the camera. And, like, he had to. You know, sometimes you have to cheat where, like, you're in a space and so the camera's on you, and then it turns around on the other person, and you have to be this close to the camera, and so you're doing your scenes. And I remember John had to be, like, right here, and he's still emoting and giving the scene his all and contemplating and giving me what I need for the scene. You've been doing this that long, and you're still that generous with your scene partner, which is professionalism. But still, there are a lot of people that don't do that.
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Brian Green
Yeah, they phone. They phone it in because, you know, it's not. The attention's not on me. You know, you do your thing and I'll. I'll say the lines. So at least you have some.
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Chris Hoadley
Some background, endless respect for him.
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Brian Green
You know, I think. I think you're on a run here, kid. I think you're on a run here. And. And I gotta say, I mean, I know there's. There's, you know, this is 45 minutes that we're talking to you. We could go on and on.
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Chrissy
Oh, yeah.
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Brian Green
Comedy Bang Bang. You. That is my flavor of hot sauce. What was it, Maurice? Flat bottom? All these characters you play, I just love it because the commercial break is a lot that way. You know, we do these sketches at the beginning of the show, and Comedy Bang Bang has some similar ilk doing it a lot longer than we have and much better. But, you know, some of these characters that you play, I just love it. And your roots are in improv. I think that's probably served you well inside of some of these television shows because you have the ability to be really flexible and versatile. It shows. You're really good. You're all scene stealers. But there are some scenes where it's just clear that, you know, your character has taken. Taken the cake. You've got the Deli Boys.
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Chrissy
I'm excited. So excited.
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Brian Green
Deli Boys is on Hulu, right?
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Chrissy
Yep, on Hulu.
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Brian Green
And you've got Righteous Gemstones on Max. And then you've got Peacock. You have shrink. Comedy Bang Bang lives forever on the RSS feed. So you can go listen to that podcast. It's. I think one of the first places did some advertising for our show to grow the show early on when we weren't. When no one was gonna listen to the show anyway, even if they heard it. But Comedy Bang Bang was one of those first places. That's great.
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Chris Hoadley
We also have, my wife and I and a few friends have a podcast on the Comedy Bang Bang Patreon.
- [57:52]
Brian Green
Oh, really?
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Chris Hoadley
That's called hey Randy. It's based on Randy Snuts, who's one of the long running characters that I've done on Comedy Bang Bang.
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Brian Green
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Chris Hoadley
And it's a call and advice show and we have like our small but mighty fan base calls in with anything duplicitous and scandalous happening in their lives. And it's just a hometown crew of friends and the little drama that's part of their lives. And it's kind of based on like the people that I grew up with in Joliet and.
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Chrissy
Oh, that's great.
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Brian Green
I want to talk to you about Joliet. I want to talk to you about Oak Forest. I want to talk to you about the Cubs and the Bears and the Blackhawks and all the, you know, and if you like the White Sox, you're from Indiana, but hey, that's a different time. That's what my dad used to say to my grandpa, used to say it to us. And then my dad carried on the tradition. You're from Chicago, son. So you like the Bulls, the Bears, the Blackhawks and the Cubs. And if you ever, like the White Sox, move to Indiana and I. But we'll forgive the White Sox fans. We'll forgive the White. They have a long storied history themselves. It's just, you know, Comiskey and Wrigley, two different places. So Tim Boltz. I'm going to put the links in all the show notes. I'll put a link to the Patreon where you can go listen to. It's on Patreon, you said?
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah, the comedy CBD World, the Comedy Bang Bang Patreon.
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Brian Green
Okay. I'll make sure I find a link. I'll put it on there. I'm going to put a link to all three of the network television shows that Tim has now got out there in the universe.
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Chrissy
Congratulations.
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Brian Green
And congratulations on all your success. We wish that you come back so we can dig deeper into the universe of Tim. I feel like 45 minutes we're just scratching the surface, but I really, I'd love to be.
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Chris Hoadley
I'd love to be back.
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Brian Green
Okay. Well, I know, I know your people, so your people are my people. So we'll call them and we'll get this all hooked up. Awesome. Tim. Tim Baltz. Thank you very much, my friend. We really appreciate it.
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Chris Hoadley
You're all the best. Thank thank you.
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Rachel
Hey, it's Rachel, your new voice of God here on tcb. And just like you, I'm wondering just how much longer this podcast can continue. Let's all rejoice that another episode has made it to your ears. And I'll rejoice that my check is in the mail. Speaking of mail, get your free TCB sticker in the mail by going to tcbpodcast.com and visiting the Contact Us page. You can also find the entire commercial break library audio and video just in case you want to look at chrissy@tcbpodcast.com Want your voice to be on an episode of the show? Leave us a message at 212-4333, TCB. That's 212-433-3822. Tell us how much you love us and we'll be sure to let the world know on a future episode. Or you could make fun of us. That'd be fine too. We might not air that, but maybe. Oh, and if you're shy that that's okay, just send a text. We'll respond. Now I'm gonna go check the mailbox for payment while you check out our sponsors and then we'll return to this episode of the Commercial Break.
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Brian Green
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Brian Green
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Brian Green
And do good. Go to bombas.com cozy and use code cozy for 20% off your first purchase. That's B O M B A S.com cozy and use code cozy at checkout. I'm going to tell a story that Tim didn't tell recorded, but I'm going to tell the story. I'm going to relay the story. So Tim and I were commiserating about being long suffering Cubs fans before we got on to the actual recording. And he was like, oh, well, at least we have 2016 when the Cubs won the World Series. And I said, yeah, you know, and I. Every time someone says Cubs won the world Series, I have to tell them that I almost went if I had $10,000 in my pocket. And he was explaining that he was going to go. He was there in Chicago around that time, but he got flown out to LA or for whatever reason. He goes to a bar on game seven when they won and he's standing by himself at a table and someone hits a home run in the first inning, which really is an indication things are going well for the Cubs, essentially. And because Cubs fans are so fucking superstitious, there were other Cubs fans in that same bar who were like, you cannot move from that table because you're. That it's. It's so superstitious that if anything changes, then maybe the Cubs are going to lose. And that's how it goes when you're a Cubs fan. So they made him stand there the entire night watching the game and they would bring him food and water and drinks and stuff like that. That. And he had friends at tables in the corner and they were like, come on, man. And he's like, I can't move. I can't move. I got to stand right here at this bar table for four and a half hours while the Cubs win the World Series. And they did. And we all cried. And Tim Baltz is awesome. What a good guy.
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Chrissy
Thanks to Tim.
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Brian Green
Yeah, I enjoyed it. I like Tim.
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Chrissy
Oh, God, love Tim.
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Brian Green
I wish there was going to be another season of Righteous Journey gemstones, but you know, we got four that's better than most.
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Chrissy
I'm go back and start re watching them, which I think is the mark of a great show.
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Brian Green
Yes.
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Chrissy
If you go back and re watch.
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Brian Green
What you've already watched, I totally agree with you. There are shows that I rewatch over and over and over again. Kath and Kim, the West Wing, Benny Dorm. Benny Dorm is the most terrible show you've ever seen in your entire life, by the way. I Rewatch it as it's like comfort food. It's like, this is so bad. I know I'll fall asleep to it. Why not? Sometimes I'll go to sleep on, like, episode one, and then I'll wake up.
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Chrissy
And it's on 12 and the next.
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Brian Green
Day it's on 13. Yeah, I was like, wow, that played for 13 hours. And I wonder why my phone's always dead in the morning. All right, Tim Baltz. I'm gonna put all of the pertinent details. Links to the righteous gemstones, links to his Hulu show, Deli Boys, and links to the Peacock, a critically acclaimed show Shrink. Go watch it. Who knows? Maybe they'll raise that from the dead and give them another season or something like that. Yeah, they should. And Comedy Bang Bang. He's got his own podcast behind the Paywall. I'll give you a link. Comedy Bang Bang is great, by the way, if you like the commercial break. It's like a much better version of the commercial break. They do all, mostly all improv and it's like really, really funny. And Reggie Watts is often on Comedy Bang Bang. So go listen to some of our friends over at Comedy Bang Bang. Okay. For us, as far as we're concerned, you can go to our website, tcbpodcast.com all the audio, all the video right there at one location. In case you need to catch up on, you know, 713 episodes of the commercial break. Feel free to go to the website. It's all there. You can also get your free TCB schwack by going going to the contact us button. Hit the drop down menu. I want my free sticker. Give us your address and we'll send you one at the commercial break on Instagram. Please follow us. TCB podcast on TikTok. I don't even know what to say about TikTok. Just don't even bother. YouTube.com the commercial break. For all you Dr. Phil fans out there, you can catch all of our episodes the same day. Usually that they air here on the audio feed. They will be dropped on the YouTube feed also. 212-4333 tcb 212-433-3822 questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas? Leave us a voicemail when I put you on the next show. All right, Chrissy, that's all I can do for now. I think so I'll tell you that I love you.
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Chrissy
I love you.
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Brian Green
Best to you. Best you out there in the podcast universe. Thanks to Tim for showing up today. Until next time, we will say we do say and we must say goodbye.
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Chris Hoadley
Yeah.