Upside Down Pineapple Fake

Summary

The Commercial Break – Episode: "Upside Down Pineapple Fake" (Released May 23, 2025)

Hosts: Bryan Green and Krissy Hoadley
Description: In this episode of The Commercial Break, hosts Bryan Green and Krissy Hoadley delve into the intriguing world of swinger communities, symbolisms, and personal anecdotes that illustrate the complexities and humorous mishaps of navigating such social circles. Amidst their characteristic blend of improv comedy and candid conversations, Bryan and Krissy explore the significance of the upside-down pineapple, share their experiences with media interactions, and offer insights into digital etiquette in intimate communications.

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1. Exploring Swinger Symbolism and Cruise Encounters

Timestamp: [05:17] – [13:25]

The episode kicks off with Krissy Hoadley introducing the primary topic: the use of the upside-down pineapple as a symbol within swinger communities. She recounts receiving a perplexing text from a long-time listener who is about to embark on a swingers' cruise. The sole image sent was of a cruise door adorned with an upside-down pineapple.

Krissy Hoadley:
"[06:15] ...they told me a couple of weeks ago that they were going to be going on a cruise. And so the response was send pics. Well, the only pic that I've gotten so far is a picture of a cruise door with an upside-down pineapple."

Bryan Green echoes this sentiment by confirming the universal understanding of the symbol and humorously suggesting its intended purpose.

Bryan Green:
"[06:50] It’s the universal."

The hosts delve into the mechanics of swinger cruises, questioning and speculating on how individuals identify each other and initiate interactions. They discuss the challenges of recognizing swinger symbols in environments without visible exteriors, such as cruise ships.

Krissy Hoadley:
"[07:14] ...they have a resort down in Jamaica. Like, there's a lot of these Hedonism. There's a bunch of them. They have sandals. Adults only resorts where basically the whole premise is go down there, strip naked, get laid."

2. Personal Anecdotes: Podcast Magazine Interview Gone Awry

Timestamp: [13:25] – [26:32]

Transitioning from the topic of swinger symbols, Krissy shares their experience with Podcast Magazine. Initially thrilled about a feature in the publication, their excitement quickly turns to discomfort as the interview takes an unprofessional and inappropriate turn.

Krissy Hoadley:
"[21:07] ...we were getting contacted by Podcast Magazine... I run to tell Chrissy, we're getting a spread in Podcast magazine."

However, during the Zoom interview, Krissy is subjected to unsolicited and objectifying comments about her appearance, making her uncomfortable.

Krissy Hoadley:
"[22:23] ...he just mainly talked about Chrissy's boobs and then asked a couple of questions of us. I thought it was odd, and I really was uncomfortable with the whole thing."

The aftermath leaves the hosts disillusioned with the exposure, as the feature does not translate into increased listenership as anticipated.

Krissy Hoadley:
"[24:29] ...it was at that moment that I realized that, in fact, probably no one was looking for a magazine about podcasting."

3. Navigating Unwanted Solicitations and Digital Etiquette

Timestamp: [26:32] – [37:30]

The conversation shifts to dealing with persistent and inappropriate solicitations from the Podcast Magazine representative. Despite attempts to maintain professionalism, Krissy and Bryan find themselves entangled in uncomfortable interactions, leading to the eventual blocking of the individual.

Krissy Hoadley:
"[35:33] ...it was clear from the beginning. If I didn't make it clear, it should have been clear from the beginning that that was not for me."

This leads into a broader discussion on the etiquette of sending explicit images—commonly referred to as "dick pics." The hosts emphasize the importance of consent and appropriate timing when sharing intimate images.

Bryan Green:
"[36:56] ...there needs to be a PSA about sending dick pics."

Krissy Hoadley:
"[37:00] ...don’t send a dick pics unless to somebody you’re not with."

They outline clear guidelines:

• Consent is Crucial: Always ask for permission before sending explicit images.
• Context Matters: Ensure that both parties are comfortable and that the timing is appropriate.
• Respect Boundaries: Unsolicited images can lead to discomfort and should be avoided.

Krissy Hoadley:
"[38:24]...is completely uncool. Not to mention you’re sending your fuckin’ dick out there to the world to someone who didn't ask for it."

4. Swinger Community Protocols and Integration

Timestamp: [37:30] – [46:43]

Bryan and Krissy continue to explore the swinger community, discussing the protocols and social cues that govern interactions within this group. The upside-down pineapple serves as an entry point, but they ponder the nuances of actually engaging with other swingers.

Bryan Green:
"[44:22]...that upside down pineapple on the door is a pre authorization."

They brainstorm alternative symbols that could represent their own podcast community, humorously suggesting the cheesecake slice as a potential symbol for "The Commercial Break" listeners.

Krissy Hoadley:
"[46:43] ...like the cheesecakes."

The hosts contemplate the idea of creating a unique symbol to foster a sense of belonging and camaraderie among their listeners, blending it seamlessly with their comedic brand.

5. Concluding Thoughts and Call to Action

Timestamp: [46:43] – [73:11]

As the main discussion wraps up, Krissy and Bryan infuse their usual humor, reflecting on their journey with the podcast and the unexpected challenges they've faced. They invite listeners to engage by sharing their experiences and questions, particularly those related to swinging, to further enrich the conversation.

Krissy Hoadley:
"[70:43]...let us know. Give us some information. 212-4333. TCB."

They reinforce their commitment to maintaining an open and engaging platform, encouraging the audience to participate and become part of the Commercial Break community.

Notable Quotes:

• Krissy Hoadley:
  "[06:15] ...they told me a couple of weeks ago that they were going to be going on a cruise."

• Bryan Green:
  "[37:00] ...don’t send a dick pics unless to somebody you’re not with."

• Krissy Hoadley:
  "[38:24]...is completely uncool. Not to mention you’re sending your fuckin’ dick out there to the world to someone who didn't ask for it."

• Krissy Hoadley:
  "[70:43]...let us know. Give us some information. 212-4333. TCB."

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Conclusion:
In the "Upside Down Pineapple Fake" episode, Bryan Green and Krissy Hoadley navigate the intricate and often humorous landscape of swinger symbolism and community protocols. Through personal stories and candid discussions, they shed light on the importance of consent, appropriate digital communication, and the challenges of maintaining professionalism amidst unexpected interactions. Their engaging banter not only entertains but also educates listeners on the subtle nuances of social symbols and the etiquette required in intimate exchanges.

For those interested in the blend of comedy, personal anecdotes, and insightful discussions on diverse topics, this episode of The Commercial Break offers a captivating listen that encapsulates the chaotic charm and relatable banter that define the podcast.

Transcript

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[Chris Hoadley]

On this episode of the commercial break. And when does the swinging happen?

[Jeff]

Well, I would think that there's some kind of intro that needs to happen.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

While you're just knocking. But maybe you knock and say hello. I agree with this vinyl.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes.

[Jeff]

And so let's get to know each other.

[Chris Hoadley]

That's what I'm asking. Let's put ourselves in this situation. Let's assume for one minute that we are swingers. You and Jeff and me and Astrid. Not us. Like, you know what I'm saying? We're swingers, right? Not that we're gonna swing together.

[Jeff]

That's right.

[Chris Hoadley]

Settle down, Jeff. I can see Jeff, like, throwing his phone out the window right now. You're never going back there again. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Yeah, boy. Oh, yeah.

[Brian Greene]

Cats and kittens, welcome back to the commerc break.

[Chris Hoadley]

I'm Brian Greene. This is my dear friend and the co host of this show, Chris and Joy Hoadley.

[Brian Greene]

Best to you, Chris.

[Jeff]

Best to you, Brian.

[Chris Hoadley]

Best to you out there in the podcast universe. I'm just scrolling through the old TCV emulator phone over here with all of our text messages and phone calls. And there is a. There's someone who's been texting the show for a very long time, won't give away the name in case they don't want it shared. But they told me a couple of. Or they told the phone a couple of weeks ago that they were going to be going on a cruise. And so the response was send pics. Right? You know, hey, share the pics. See what I want to see what's doing over there on that cruise. Well, the only pic that I've gotten so far is a picture of a cruise door with an upside down pineapple.

[Jeff]

It's the universal.

[Chris Hoadley]

We all know that's what it means. Universal symbol for ground and pound. Baby Polyamory.

[Jeff]

We like to.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, yeah, we like to swing. I have been getting served up a lot more swingers content. I think I shared this with you that we, we talked about the love cruise or whatever they call it. The. What is that called? The. It's not. Yeah, what is that? Resort.

[Jeff]

Right.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, there's a resort.

[Brian Greene]

Pleasure.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I think it's pleasure.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, the pleasure, whatever it is. Anyway, it's a swingers cruise and now they're doing it twice a year that it's in such demand that they're doing it twice a year. And they also have a resort down in Jamaica. Like, there's a lot of these Hedonism. There's a bunch of them. They have sandals. Adults only resorts where basically the whole premise is go down there, strip naked, get laid. That's it. That's what you do. And I don't know, part of me thinks that might be fun. Like, I don't want to do it now. I'm too old for all that. No one wants to see me. Like Tom Pappa says, I'm turning into one big testicle. So no one wants to see me naked. But if I think back on my youthful adventures, I wonder why I didn't put that in the mix. Mainly because I, like, I've been in threesomes and they're not for me. Like, you know, can you hold my beer while I go get more beer? Then I come back and I'm locked out of the house. It's like one of those things, you know, it's not as fun as you think it is. It's quite challenging, actually, to pleasure. More Than one person at the same time. But like, swingers, you know, you're just doing. Yeah, you're just switching. You're just switching it up. And so I. I don't know what the picture is means. Does it mean that's your door, or does that mean that's right else's door?

[Jeff]

I think they probably saw it.

[Chris Hoadley]

I think so. Yeah. But that's ballsy to go on a cruise and just let everybody know you're looking for a door. Not. What is the. What is protocol on a cruise when it comes to swinging? Do you just, like, knock on somebody's door? Just.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I mean, I think.

[Chris Hoadley]

Can I nick down your wife? It's me. Who. What does it matter? I saw the pineapple on the door. Yeah, let's not get all involved with details. Let me just come in real quick and. Come on real quick. You know what I'm saying? Come in and Come on. And when does the swinging happen?

[Jeff]

Well, I would think that there's some kind of intro that needs to happen. Yeah, you're just knocking, but maybe you knock and say hello. I agree with this vinyl.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes.

[Jeff]

And so let's get to know each other.

[Chris Hoadley]

That's what I'm asking.

[Jeff]

Like, let's go have a drink.

[Chris Hoadley]

Let's put ourselves in this situation. Let's assume for one minute that we are swingers. You and Jeff and me and Astrid. Not us. Like, you know what I'm saying? We're swingers. Right. Not that we're going to swing together.

[Jeff]

That's right.

[Chris Hoadley]

Settle down, Jeff. I can see Jeff, like, throwing his phone out the window right now. You're never going back there again. You're now the executive administrator of Mempho forever.

[Jeff]

No, look, as we've said before, all we have to do is throw out that it's research for the show.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes, it's research for the show. So let's assume for a minute that we are swingers.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

And we go on a cruise, the four of us, and we're like, all right, we're ready to get dick down. That's what we're. That's what we're doing here. Right. It's gonna be a. It's gonna be a whole five days of fun in the sun and.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

Turning up and turning out and swinging.

[Jeff]

And swinging.

[Chris Hoadley]

Putting our heads down on the pillows. Okay, let's think. Let's think about that. All right? Now, how do we let people know that? How, pray tell, are we going to find other swingers on the cruise? Well, let's put A pineapple upside down on our door. Okay.

[Jeff]

Honey, did you remember the pineapple?

[Chris Hoadley]

Honey, did you bring the blow up pineapple? Because I need to put it upside down.

[Jeff]

I have a packing list. Yes, I have a packing list. So I'm adding that to my packing list.

[Chris Hoadley]

5, 30. So on a cruise ship you've never been, but on a cruise ship it's all interiors, no exteriors. There's no windows. Like I've seen other swingers who do things at like motels, hotels or resorts. There's windows, big windows in the front of the hotel. Right. The hotel room. So you can just open the curtains.

[Jeff]

Right.

[Chris Hoadley]

Like those old motel sixes where you open up the curtain. I saw one at like a Holiday Inn in like Iowa somewhere. Imagine that.

[Jeff]

I saw one one time too in San Diego.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, you did?

[Jeff]

Yeah, it was crazy. I was there for this convention.

[Chris Hoadley]

There was a swingers convention going.

[Jeff]

No, I was there for another convention. But at the hotel we were staying at, as my boss and I walked by it, there was some, you know, peekaboo.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, they, they had the curtains open. Yeah, you know, there was for the super bowl last year, which was in Vegas, right? Yeah, it was in Vegas.

[Jeff]

Every other year it's in Vegas.

[Chris Hoadley]

That's true. Because it's hot. And that guy paid a billion dollars for that place. And now they always have it in warm weather. It's like Atlanta, Tampa, Superdome, Vegas, Atlanta, Tampa, Superdome, Vegas. Okay, so it was in Vegas, was it? Somebody was playing. Not Rihanna, but somebody was playing inside one of the, I think it was in resorts world, like that huge facility, that huge mixed use facility they have in Vegas that's kind of newish. And there's hotels that overlook the stage in the concert area. Well, one keen eyed person with a very powerful cell phone saw that like on the third floor the windows were open in the hotel room, the curtains were open and some girl was getting double downed. Like okay, two guys, one on each end.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Chris Hoadley]

And they scrolled in and it was like, it was a really funny reel because everybody started noticing and then everybody was pointing their phones up there, just taking it. Anyway. Okay. So you know, some of these places, like they have areas where, you know, it's like you go to a swingers conference. I've seen the Instagrams, you have a meet and greet, you have a dinner together, you go to the beach and you know, pick your partner. But in a cruise there's no windows where you can look in. There's just a peephole like most hotel Rooms, just a people. What is the minutiae? You're putting a pineapple on your door. Is that like protocol for the swingers community? You just knock on the door, hey, I'm here. I'm up for it. Look at me, I'm up right now. I'm hard as a rock. Flag poles up, let's go for it. Or, I don't know. I'm just wondering. That seems.

[Jeff]

I mean, the way I picture it to go is that they've let it be known.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes.

[Jeff]

They're into it and they're looking for. For partners. So I. The way I'm picturing it is like, yeah, maybe there's a knock on the door, but it's not so much like, hey, let's go, let's have sex right now.

[Chris Hoadley]

Hey, do you want to have dinner with us?

[Jeff]

It's.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes. Hey, do you want to come on.

[Jeff]

The excursion with us, have a drink?

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. Hey, do you have any pictures of your wife disrobed?

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. Or you, like, wait outside the room until you leave for dinner and then you're like, hey, Exactly. And in the swingers community, is it gauche to be like, just a dude? Like, if I'm, you know, let's say that Brian's a swinger and he's on vacation, but Astrid's not. I'm just the swinger in the family, and I'm on vacation with the fam and I'm doing my midnight Disney walk around the ship when no one else is there. Yeah, my walkabout. Or security's getting nervous about the guy with multiple cameras around his neck is taking pictures of every piece of architecture in the building. I'm doing my walkabout and I see the pineapple and I go, well, you know, kids are asleep. Why not knock on the door, see what's doing that? I don't know. Yeah, I know that when I went to a swinger's party, a sex party, that it was not okay to come in alone as just a single guy unless you had been pre approved by the facilitators of the party. In other words, you just couldn't walk in there as a single dude. You had to bring a female or you had to be on a list of special approved dudes. And what is approved or not? Like, do you have to send pictures? Do you put in a resume? Do you have an application process? I would imagine you would want to keep the creepers out.

[Jeff]

Yeah, Maybe some sort of background check. I don't know.

[Chris Hoadley]

I don't know either. And while I did not, to be absolutely clear, had zero interest in participating in anything, and the smell in there was funky as it could be, I will say this. There was a lot of people watching what was going on.

[Jeff]

Oh, yeah. Watching's a thing.

[Chris Hoadley]

Watching is a thing. And most of those people, if we're just being honest, were guys. So I'm assuming they came in, like, you know, they brought a friend or whatever. You know, bring a friend, like, plus one. You go to the swingers party. Plus one, I guess.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

And then you say, hey, you do what you want to do. I'll be over here.

[Jeff]

Yeah, exactly.

[Chris Hoadley]

Creeping or having sex or whatever it is. This is just all. This just fascinates me to no end. I'm.

[Jeff]

It's so fascinating.

[Chris Hoadley]

Far removed from anything that I know or would want to know that, you know, I just am interested in all the protocols. So if, you know, we almost had a swinger lady. If you remember this. Remember Clubhouse?

[Jeff]

Yes.

[Chris Hoadley]

Does anybody remember Clubhouse? I don't know.

[Jeff]

How could I forget?

[Chris Hoadley]

It's still a thing. There is still an app out there. Clubhouse. It looks like it has turned absolutely ratchet. Like, I don't know what's going on in that clubhouse now, but it's, like, weird. It's all.

[Jeff]

God, it was on such a high.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, I know. It was like the thing that was going to take over the world.

[Jeff]

We were hearing valuations and IPO talk and the whole thing.

[Chris Hoadley]

They were. They were valued at a billion dollars at one point. They got like, $120 million from the same people who seeded Facebook, you know, Martin McKinney and Maskell or whatever those fucking guys names are. Simon and Schuster. I don't know. Something. They. They were absolutely on a tear for like, three months. I have never seen a tech platform, and I'm sure there's been lots of them, but I have never been involved in any tech platform. Well, actually, that's not true. I was once involved in a tech platform that got funded once and then it just literally died. Literally. That's a different story for a different day. But that thing took off during the pandemic like a rocket. Like a rocket. There were like. I got an early invitation probably three months after it. Like, they started inviting other people outside of the founders.

[Jeff]

Early invitation.

[Chris Hoadley]

The old early invitation, Yes. I got one from Alison Hare. Never forget. She said, you got to do this Clubhouse thing. I said, what is it? She said, it's live podcasting. I said, oh, live podcast. It's like a radio show. You have people And I had no idea what she was talking about. Just join and see. And then I see. And then I go, oh, that is interesting. And then pretty soon, five times a day, I was on there doing shows. Yeah. Oh, my God, it was crazy. It took over my life for.

[Jeff]

I know. I tried to keep up and I couldn't. It was. You were a speeding race car.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. A complete waste of my. I mean, listen, we met a lot of nice people there. It ended up being. I guess part of the reason why we got. I got through the pandemic is because I had something to do. But anyway, on one of those. I was in this podcasting group, and one of the ladies who was in the podcasting group with me, there was, like, a couple hundred of us doing these shows on this podcast channel or club. Excuse me. So fucking stupid. Yeah. Come on. Yeah, I'm sorry. In the club with us. In the podcast club with us. Started by the founder of Podcast Magazine, because everybody wants to buy a magazine about podcasting. That's right. That guy is now, like, selling insurance in an MLM or something. Anyway, yeah, she was. She had a podcast about swingers. Her husband and her were.

[Jeff]

Wait, hold on. I just had a vision here. Speaking of the podcast magazine and swingers.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes.

[Jeff]

You know what I'm gonna say, because you got propositioned. Kind of.

[Chris Hoadley]

You got propositioned. Kind of.

[Jeff]

I did.

[Chris Hoadley]

It wasn't me.

[Jeff]

I mean, you got, like, a picture that was sent, right?

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, I did. Yeah. I got some weir. All right, so while we're talking about swingers, I'll tell this story real fast. Chrissy and I are early pod. I mean, we're early in this journey. Now I look back. I mean, listen, just like anybody who starts off on any new adventure.

[Jeff]

We were toddlers.

[Chris Hoadley]

We were toddlers. It's like you start off walking through the jungle and you're scared of everything. You have no idea what's going on. Everything looks scary, dangerous. Big.

[Jeff]

Putting everything in your mouth.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, putting everything in your mouth. That's right. Sticking your finger in the socket. But pretty soon you get burned a few times and you learn and you grow and all that other stuff. So. But we're early on, and quite frankly, it was very exciting that somebody at Podcast magazine who had other, like, notable podcasters on the COVID of that magazine. Like, big podcasters. Yeah. Like Tim Ferriss, who was the one.

[Jeff]

That was on for our issue. Was it Dave Ramsey?

[Chris Hoadley]

I don't know Dave Ramsey. I think he was on one of them, but I don't think it Was Dave Ramsey. I don't know. I think it was Tim. Maybe it was Tim Ferriss. I don't know.

[Jeff]

I've got the magazine.

[Chris Hoadley]

I do, too. It's sitting right up there.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

So I get a reach out, a reach around from somebody at Podcast magazine who's doing the comedy vertical. And he says, love the show. Really love to do a spread on the commercial break. And I'm like, what? Really? He says, yeah, I think you guys are great. I'd love to do it. And I said, okie, okey, dokey, smokey pokey. And by the way, we got connected because I just started in Clubhouse. I had connected with this guy in Clubhouse. I had been in a few rooms with him. He looked at the show. That's how he found us. So it wasn't that we were. It was like. Because we had a bunch of accolades or any merit whatsoever. We were like 20 episodes into the show, into the podcast. And so I run to tell Chrissy, we're getting a spread in Podcast magazine. We gotta do an interview. Chrissy's like, oh, my God, really? And I'm like, yes. The podcast magazine. The podcast magazine wants us, let alone commercial break.

[Jeff]

Yeah. I was like, whoa, okay, we've got. We've got some traction here.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes, we got some traction. We had no idea this would be like, a fashion model getting an invitation in our minds to be on the COVID of Vogue after, like, two days in the modeling industry. What it really was was, like, an insert in the Penny Saver where you're wearing skimpy lingerie. That's really what it was. So the guy says, hey, we got to do an interview. Be about an hour long. Can I get both of you guys on a zoom? I got some questions to ask. That's where I'm gonna. That's what. That's the basis of the article. Okay, fantastic. So I get. So Chrissy and I pick a time. We're going to do it. Zoom. We. The appropriate time comes. I cannot get on Zoom because I got to update. Of course, you have to always update on your zoom. Every time you have an important zoom and you're one minute late, you have to update, because that's how fucking zoom is. So I'm updating. And when I pop in, Chrissy's like, oh, oh, okay, okay. Huh? Yeah. And I can already see that something is making her uncomfortable, but I'm not really sure what it is. But the guy who's doing the interview is like, yeah, she's gonna love you. I mean, she's gonna love you. Where are you at? Where is that? Atlanta? Yeah, I think we can make it out there.

[Jeff]

Well, he was telling me before you got on that he and his wife had looked at my picture and really, really liked what they saw.

[Chris Hoadley]

They liked what they saw. And they wanted to know if Chrissy would be up for little hey, how's your sister out there in wherever the fuck he was, some arid plains, Arizona or something. And I had no idea about any of this. I had no idea that I didn't even know this guy. I really didn't. I talked to him a few times on Clubhouse, but he then went on to have an interview that was completely unprofessional.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

Where he just mainly talked about Chrissy's boobs and then asked a couple of questions of us. I thought it was odd, and I really was uncomfortable with the whole thing, but we hung in there as long as we could, and then it's over. And I'm like, well, I guess when you hit the big time, this is what it's like, the casting couch. Like, you're gonna have to dodge the bullets. I don't know. I've never had any brush with any kind of notoriety, so I don't know. But we get excited about the thing. So Chrissy and I run out back to my house and we pick up a couple pieces of wood and we take some pictures.

[Jeff]

Astrid took pictures of us.

[Chris Hoadley]

We take an old piece of fence.

[Jeff]

Yeah, running like mid air.

[Chris Hoadley]

We took an old piece of fence, put it between dumbest shit ever, and we send them off hot off the presses. We got to make sure that we get this to Podcast magazine for the December issue. So the article comes out, and it's by and large a fluff piece where he adds a couple of the answers that we gave and then tells it, you know, up and coming podcast, go check it out. Whatever. Of which we see zero increase in downloads. I thought for sure this was it. And we got zero traction out of it.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

And it was at that moment, you know, sometimes you just have blind faith that things are gonna work out. But it was at that moment that I realized that, in fact, probably no one was looking for a magazine about podcasting. And if they were, where exactly would they find that magazine?

[Jeff]

Well, at the grocery store, which no one was going to because it was the middle of the beginning of the pandemic.

[Chris Hoadley]

And when I learned that it was distributed in over 50 locations, most of which were like really terrible gas stations, and they eventually just given away for free at Podcasting conventions. I realized that this was not all it was cracked up to be. I had no idea what podcast magazine was. Brand new, quite frankly. It only had, like, six issues before us, and it only had six issues after us. It had 12 issues. It was a terrible idea. Who puts together a magazine about podcasting? Put together a podcast about podcasting. Well, the hunt wasn't over for this guy, because then all of a sudden, we start showing up on their Hot 10, whatever. Hot 50. The podcast Hot 50. Like Casey Kasems. Yeah, like Casey Kasem's. He has a countdown about podcasts. A podcast that's a countdown about podcasts. And it, like, plays on some streaming radio station no one can find. You know, it's like, whatever.

[Jeff]

I get so flabbergasted. It was terrible about all of this.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. And what he would do is he'd take clips of the top 10 podcasts, and he goes. Now coming in at number nine, it's Brian and Grizz with the commercial. Brand laughs and gats are all a mass. Who? Brian and Chrissy get together each. Each Tuesday because they only do it one day a week. Yeah. Each Tuesday to make you laugh and giggle, there's a little clip from the blah, blah, blah, and they do that clip, and it's so fucking terrible, you can't even imagine. We get zero downloads out of it. But this guy wants to get Chrissy.

[Jeff]

In bed, so I didn't. I never talked to him again.

[Chris Hoadley]

You never talked to him again? I did.

[Jeff]

You did?

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes. And I quickly realized he's not somebody I want to have anything to do with. I'll tell you more about the story. We got to take a quick break, and when I get back, we'll finish up the podcast magazine swingers story, and I have more questions about Swingers4Swingers. About Swingers. It's a whole swingers episode. See, you sent me a pineapple, and now you got. Now I got to talk about it for the rest of the day. We'll be back.

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[Chris Hoadley]

Learn more@discover. All right, so Chrissy and I finished this interview. Magazine comes out. It's glossy, it's slick, it's got three and a half pages dedicated to the commercial break with our dumb, dumb pictures in there. I mean, if you can find a copy of Podcast magazine with the commercial break in it, I would grab it because it's probably gonna be worth money for all the wrong reasons someday when we get noted as the we get entered into the Podcast hall of Fame as the worst podcast. Yeah, the razzies of podcasting. Yeah. Oh, don't get me started on the Podcast hall of Fame. But anyway, so Chrissy never talks to this guy again, but I have to be in this. But the guy who owned Podcast magazine starts a podcasting club inside of Clubhouse and I join in early to be one of the hosts of the shows that he's going to put on. His idea is to have a 24 hour clubhouse channel going on where all we a podcast channel where all we talk about is podcast. How to do a podcast, how to help people with podcasts, how to grow a podcast, how to shrink a podcast, how to end a podcast how to start a podcast. And I end up doing these podcast rooms with Alison Hare, a friend of the show. And I can't tell you how many thousands of questions I took about podcasting. They were all the same question. How do I start a podcast? Or how do I get an audience for my podcast? How many different ways I could answer that question? I have no idea. But I answered it over and over and over again, and I'm glad. I helped some people, and I probably hurt some people. I'm really sorry. I don't know. I was there. I had fun in the moment. It was something to do, but you get it. But I had to interact with this guy who had interviewed us because he was in the same podcast club. And he would pop into my rooms, and I would, you know, have to pull him up on stage because he was part of the group. Yeah, the waving hand. Hi. Yeah, the waving hand. Hi. Because he would raise his hand. Because part of the rule of the group was if someone else. If one of the other hosts popped into your room, you had to pull him up on stage. Maybe they didn't have to. Maybe you didn't have to open their mic. You could just keep him on mute, but you had to pull him up on stage. And so every time he came into the room, I had to pull him on stage. What? I started getting text messages from this guy, and he's like, hey, man, what'd you think about the spread? You're on the hot charts. Da, da da, da da. And I was like, yeah, great. Yeah, thank you very much. I really appreciate it. I said, you know, it was a very nice spread, and I think Chrissy and I certainly appreciate it. Cool. Cool, man. Hey, did you know my wife and I are swingers? And I was like, hey, no, that's a weird text message. I did not. Well, good for you guys. You know, as if my response was like, good for you. Now. Now it's starting to make a little bit of sense. And it's like, hey, great. Hey, listen, I got this new radio channel, podcast streaming thing I'm doing, and I need a little bit of help and advice, and I'm thinking about streaming some of your show on there, so it's gonna be a brand new, blah, blah, whatever the fuck. And he's like, can you get on a zoom call with me? Me? Sure, I'll get on a zoom call with you. You know, you need some help if you're thinking about distributing the commercial break, right?

[Jeff]

It was the bait. It was the bait of the commercial. Break. I want. I want to feature you guys again.

[Chris Hoadley]

It ended up being 45 minutes of him talking about how many. His swinging life, including. And up to his wife making appearances on the Zoom. Him talking about how great her tits were. I mean, it was really uncomfortable. And I was like, well, okay, thanks very much. Gotta go. I was just trying to be polite. It was. It wasn't anything like.

[Jeff]

Yeah, it wasn't like in your face immediately.

[Chris Hoadley]

It wasn't sexual assault by any means.

[Jeff]

Right? It was suggestive.

[Chris Hoadley]

Very suggestive. Very suggestive. Okay, great. Wonderful. Fine. Dandy. I'm done. Okay, now I'm done. But the guy still has my phone number and I can't just turn him off because he's in the same group I am in. And so it's all this blah, blah, blah. And we're in a WhatsApp group of 300 other people where they all bitch about, you know, my room only lasted 45 minutes. Whatever. It's like 55 children. Allison and I were like, what is the world is going on in this group? Who knew? Who knew this was gonna be so childish? Some people were cool, like anything. Some people were cool. Some people had big egos. Some people, whatever. So one day I wake up and this is smack dab in the middle of every lockdown. There's nothing to do. There's nowhere to go. And I got a text message from this guy. And I pop it open and it's a picture of people in a hot topless. People in a hot tub.

[Jeff]

The hot tub. Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. Guess what we're doing tonight. Wish you were here.

[Jeff]

With like, drinks.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes, with drinks and tits and wish you were here. Wish you were here. What? My wife says, hello. I paid 30,000 for those. Check them out. Okay. All right. At that moment, I didn't care that he was in the group. No, I had to block them. I just blocked them. Listen, it takes all kinds and I'm not here to judge anybody's life. And if that's what you want to do, that's what you want to do. Cool. I'm not. I'm. You don't have to send pictures. It was clear from the beginning. If I didn't make it clear, it should have been clear from the beginning that that was not for me. I was. That me and my wife were not going to be sending back and forth pictures or making any road trips out to the Southwest Plains to have doodle diddy time with, you know, this 60 year old dude and his wife. It's not going to happen. But there's a point where you just got to draw the line. Like, if you're a swinger, you can be a swinger. And I don't feel uncomfortable about you talking about it. Feel free to talk about your swinging, but make sure it's the right conversation at the right time and that it's an invited conversation. And certainly don't send pictures of your wife topless when no one asked for them. That's weird. It's weird. I think it was. I think he was. I think they were desperate to find.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

Partners.

[Jeff]

That goes into something else. I know I texted you about the other day saying we need to. There needs to be a PSA about sending dick pics.

[Brian Greene]

Yes.

[Jeff]

Like, you can't. You have to have.

[Chris Hoadley]

Did you get a dick pic?

[Jeff]

No, it was a friend of a friend, and it was a thing. Anyways, the dick pic. First of all, just don't. Don't send a dick pics unless to somebody you're not with.

[Chris Hoadley]

No.

[Jeff]

And without pre authorization. Either you say, would you like to see a pic of my dick? And they say yes, then you're good to go.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yes.

[Jeff]

Or if the other person says, can I see a pic?

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, that's right.

[Jeff]

Then you're good to go.

[Chris Hoadley]

Those are the.

[Jeff]

Not any other way.

[Chris Hoadley]

I agree with you wholeheartedly. While we're talking about swinging and sex and all this other stuff. I know it's. At least for a while there, all the rage was dick pics, right? Everyone was getting dick pics. Everyone was sending dick pics. Dick pics, dick pic, dick pic. But Chrissy's right about something. And this isn't an old man. This is not Brian old man talking. This is just like, general.

[Jeff]

It's just etiquette.

[Chris Hoadley]

Life etiquette. Right. And it goes both ways, by the way. Not just dicks. And I'll share a story here in just a second, but it's. You invite that conversation or you're gonna know when the right moment to send the dick pic is. If you guys are having text sex or as my mom likes to say, sex Mexican. If you guys are having sex. Mexican.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

Then it's completely appropriate if pictures are being exchanged or words are being exchanged. You know, you'll know. You'll know when the right time to send that dick pic is. Uninvited dick pics. You know, and then asking for a response.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

Is completely un. It's uncool. Not to mention you're sending your fucking dick out there to the world to someone who didn't ask for it. They have all the right in the world to go send that picture to other people. And listen, I'm sure some of you are impressive. I'm not. I would not dare do that. No way. But maybe some of you are, and maybe that's okay with you. Cool. Even if you've got an impressive package.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Don't assume.

[Chris Hoadley]

Don't assume. Right. Wait for someone to ask for it. Or ask for it. But don't do that. Like on the third conversation, you know, Don't. You guys haven't even been out for coffee yet and you're like, oh, see you picking my dick. No, no one wants to see you pick your dick.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

Let's be honest. Dicks aren't the most pret things in the world. Right. God made women beautiful and God just stuck a stick on the front of us. That turns ugly and weird. Just don't do it. Just don't do it. Okay. It's not the right time, it's not.

[Jeff]

The right place, without pre authorization. I'm calling it pre authorization.

[Chris Hoadley]

That's right. One time I was at a party. I was at a birthday party and a girl that you and I know together, we. Her and I were sometimes on, not on and off again, but sometimes we're like friends with benefits at times. And, you know, we spent a lot of time together as friends and then a little bit of time together, you know, fooling around. It was just one of those. It was a situationship, I guess would be. Is right what it was called. Well, but. But we had never been like the kind of like, sex we'd send, like, you know, nudes or anything like that. Like, if we were drunk and if we wanted to fool around, we fooled around. Most of the time we were just friendly with each other and went out to places. But one night I was at a party, and I'll never forget I'm at a party. Phone dings. Ding, ding, ding. And I'm around a bunch of people and I open it up because we had never ever before, ever sent any kind of offensive text messages. I thought this was gonna be like, hey, where you at? Hey, you wanna meet up later? Hey, what you doing tomorrow night? And I open it up and it's some of the most graphic photographs you have ever seen in your entire life of her. Like, the inside of her. And I was like, whoa. And I'm sure everybody around me saw, some people around me saw this, like it was clear what it was. And I was like, whoa, whoa, where did that come from? No mess, like no preface, no prologue, nothing. Just that. Just those three or four photographs. And I was like, wow, that's weird. And I didn't text back for a while because I thought, I can't even open the phone. I gotta be careful. I don't know who's around. Yeah, I was nervous. So I didn't open the phone for a while. And then like an hour later when I was leaving the party, I opened the phone. I had silenced the phone. I opened the phone and there was like 20 text messages. I'm sorry, is everything okay? Did I do something wrong? And I was like, oh, you know I feel for you. No, everything's fine. It's okay. And. But I'm not going to respond. I'm not going to put a dick pic in there.

[Jeff]

No, there was no pre authorization.

[Chris Hoadley]

No pre authorization, no conversation. Literally a cold text message of your willy hoo hoo. Now I. Sorry, that's my phone dropping three times an episode. Yes. I got a whole. I got a situationship with my charity. You take like a. I know. I'm getting a new phone and I'm going go to get a different case. Anyway, this is.

[Jeff]

That's a different phone.

[Chris Hoadley]

What's that? This is a different phone.

[Jeff]

That's the studio phone.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, the studio phone fell.

[Jeff]

Your other phone is.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, my other phone fell too. They both fell. I put them on next to me on the chair and then they slide off. Because these chairs are just like, you know, soft and they just boom. And then they sound like a bomb went off in the microphone. Cause it goes right up through the microphone cage. So my point is, don't send unrequited nude photographs to anyone for any reason. Unless it's one of those guys who. Unless they're one of those guys who text you and they're like, hey, like I got a text message the other day. Hey, did you finish the art piece yet? I'm really excited to see it. It was from someone I didn't know. Yes. And I sent them a picture of an elephant penis. And I go, I think it's coming along. And then they're like, I'm sorry, I thought this was Abby. Do I have the wrong phone number? And I go, no, this is Abby and this is my art. I turn it around on them. None of them play along anymore. They're all. They all got way. There's probably thousands of smart asses out there who are doing the same thing, but I love it. My brother in law, Gustavo, he's like so afraid to Respond to them. He thinks he's gonna get trapped in some weird bitcoin scam. And I'm like, they just. They just text random phone numbers, hoping they figure it out. Anyway, so back to the swingers. So, you know, I'm just wondering, like, this lady, the lady from Clubhouse was gonna be on the show. Like, I had talked to her. She. I was in a room with her, like a clubhouse room one time. I helped host a room with her, and she was talking about her swingers podcast in a way that was very informative. And it kind of. She was telling people about the, you know, the laying the rules down, the basics.

[Jeff]

Like the show that we just reviewed with the Canadian, you know, Dr. Ruth, who. What was her name?

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Sue.

[Jeff]

Sue Johnson.

[Chris Hoadley]

So Johansson.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

Sue Johansen. Yeah. But she wasn't being clinical about it. She was saying, you know, these are how swingers groups work, and this is how you identify a swinger, and this is how we approach a swinger, and this is what we ask, and these are the rules, and these are the things we do.

[Jeff]

Good to know.

[Chris Hoadley]

It was all good to know. And maybe I should reach back out to her, because it was really fascinating. And now I'm just getting more. I'm getting more and more fascinated by the idea of swinging. I have no interest in doing it myself. I just like to know what's going on out there. Yeah.

[Jeff]

What the communities. Other communities are about. Well, I would say that the upside down pineapple on the door is a pre authorization.

[Chris Hoadley]

I agree with you. That's a pre authorization to knock on the door, say hello if you're a swinger, and say, hey, listen, you know, I don't know if we're gonna get along, but would you like to go have dinner and we'll see what goes on? Can I buy you a few drinks? You want to go down to the casino and play a few hands? Let's figure this all out.

[Jeff]

Right?

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. So. And I think it's very brave of someone to just put an upside down pineapple on the door, not knowing if.

[Jeff]

Anybody else might as well go for what you want.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. And listen, there's also the very real possibility that on this particular cruise, there's like a coordinated swingers group that's out there, and they all put the pineapples upside down on the door. And that is pre authorization to say, I know what you're. I know what you're up to. To. But honestly, like, everybody knows about the upside down pineapple now. Gotta do something else. I Do like an upside down turkey or something. You know what I'm saying? Like, it gets.

[Jeff]

Maybe. Maybe somebody could have been curious. They had never done it. But when they see the upside down, that's. I mean, universally that's known now.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, of course it is.

[Jeff]

So, yeah, maybe they were hoping to reel in some new. Some fresh meat.

[Chris Hoadley]

There is a famous neighborhood here north of Atlanta. Very large neighborhood. And apparently the swinger community up there is well known. Very large, and it's a golf community. So they have a golf course up there, but right outside of the golf course, there's a publix. And now someone that I know lives there. They're not swingers, but they live there. And because they go to the pool and they do the things and the neighborhood events and all that, it's like, not even a secret. It's. Everybody talks about it, and people are. You know, they will put. They have, like an upside down pineapple thing that they put in their backyard on the golf course. They put it on their front door. And the publix outside of the neighborhood, apparently there are people on a Saturday afternoon or whatever, they'll go to the publix. They'll get a shopping cart and put the pineapple on the top. And if you put the pineapple on the top, the little thing that holds the baby. Yeah, yeah, put that there. That's it. You're good to go. You can approach.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, approach. A clearance for landing. You know what I'm saying? That's just it. And cool. I'd like to be in a club with a secret code. I mean, I don't want anybody to have sex with my wife, but I want to be in a secret code club, you know?

[Jeff]

Really a secret?

[Chris Hoadley]

Well, it's not really a secret, but I want to have something cool like that Symbol club. Yeah, like, you know, we have sayings here, like, best to you and stuff like that, but not for everybody. Cheesecake factory of podcasts.

[Jeff]

Maybe that's our symbol, the cheesecakes.

[Chris Hoadley]

Like, cheesecake slice a cheesecake upside down, like a triangle. And if you have that on your shirt or sticker on your door or whatever, then, you know, you're a commercial break listener, and it's okay to approach. You're okay to have conversations about the dumbest podcast out there. How's that? I like that idea. I do like that idea. All right, we'll take a break, and then I want to ask you about. You said you have a question for me that Jeff proposed. That was a good question. Last night Maybe you don't remember. Chrissy was drinking. She don't remember.

[Jeff]

I did have some wine.

[Chris Hoadley]

I'll poke your brain in just a second. We'll be back.

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[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, that is crazy. Christy and I were just talking about the Diddy trial, which is the never endless updates on the Diddy trial because some of testimony is literally insane. Yeah, that kid Cudi got his car blown up and apparently that was directed by Diddy and his security staff or whoever Diddy was associating with. And I saw the pictures from the trial the other day. The pictures of the inside of Diddy's house were after they raided the house. Lots of drugs, lots of pills, lots of powders, lots of pot, lots of pot. And the lube, as they had explained, there was a lot of lube. There was a couple hundred bottles of lube, lots of of lingerie. To me seemed like pretty milquetoast sex stuff, like a couple of vibrators, a couple of like pieces of like cheapy lingerie that you would buy at a head shop or a sex shop or whatever. You know, cheapy stuff comes in a box, one size fits all type stuff and some stripper heels, things like that. That all seemed pretty milquetoast sex stuff, like stuff anybody might be into no matter what. But, but the description of some of this is just insane. Like they had the pro, the male prostitute up there, he was saying he got paid between 500 and $5,000 every time to show up, have sex with quite frankly a very beautiful woman while Diddy orchestrated the whole thing. Watched and then got his rocks off. You know, it's 21 EPMs over in the corner. So essentially a lot of cuckolding going on in which. Okay, whatever. That's your. That's your jazz. That's your jazz. But the nature in which he went about orchestrating all of that sounds very abusive.

[Jeff]

The violence and just the mental abuse. Yeah, mental control, the drugs, all of it. Yeah. It's.

[Chris Hoadley]

Cassie says when they met, she didn't even really know what a blowjob was. She was like. Had no idea what that was. And then he, like, directed her, instructed her. Sounds like Diddy found someone very young and molded her to his will. Yeah. Vulnerable. He signed her to, like, a 50 album deal or something. 50 album deal? A 50 album deal. That is insanity. I take a little bit of comfort. And this can never wipe away any of the trauma that is probably in this girl's head. If any of this is true. And it looks like a lot of it might be.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

You know, she got $25 million or whatever it is. So at the very least, even though her life is ruined, of those albums did anything except for maybe the first one that had a hit single or two, and then she was really relegated to being his sex slave. I mean, that's the only way to describe it. You know, she probably won't have to work another day in her life so she can maybe try and pick up the pieces.

[Jeff]

Yeah, well, she's pregnant, too.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, that's true.

[Jeff]

She looks like she's got a very loving and supportive husband.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. She's, like, really pregnant. Is she, like, nine months pregnant or something?

[Jeff]

She's.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. Diddy turned out to be such a douchebag. Who hot? Who? Not indeed. Did he? Well, I guess we figured it out. Yeah. All those rumors about Diddy over all those years, they just might be true. Maybe he did have something to do with Biggie Smalls death. Like a lot of people have assumed for a very long time that he did. I don't think this trial is going to get to the bottom of it, but you know, somebody. If. If Diddy is kneecapped in the sense that he no longer has the power and prestige that he always has, I think then a lot more will be discussed about him. Just like with a lot of. I'm watching the Brett Favre documentary right now. Yeah. On Netflix. And, you know, we just give a lot of credit to these guys when they haven't earned it, and then we assume they put them on a pedestal and we assume that everything's okay. And we don't want to hear about the bad, but everyone's human. And when you, you know, absolute power absolutely corrupts. That's just the way that it is. We see that. We're seeing that play out in every facet of our lives right now, from our preachers to our influe, our sports stars and our government. It's just the way that it is. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. So, anyway, happy days. Happy days are here again. Back to swinging. I like to talk about swinging. That's what I like to talk about. I wanted to talk about the Poly family.

[Jeff]

Oh, yes. And I haven't watched the latest one, but we can still talk about it.

[Chris Hoadley]

Well, listen, you know, I just.

[Jeff]

I get the gist.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. It's really not hard to figure out. And they show a lot of, like, minutia about the family that's not, quite frankly, all that interesting. It's just like any other family, only there's two dads and two moms crying. Yeah. The kid's crying and changing. And both moms are trying to breastfeed the one child. Like, that's. Yeah, I. I admire that. Okay, cool. If you're trying to breastfeed, both of them are trying to best breastfeed the child to connect with it. Cool. But one's mom's milk won't come in. Whatever. Anyway, you get it. I will say this is that. Take away the fact that it's just two moms and two dads. It's a relatively boring show about two guys who don't like, like each other.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

And one dude who gets laid much more than the other dude. I mean, that's just really. What.

[Jeff]

Right.

[Chris Hoadley]

Every episode it seems like they have to make note that one dude is a good lover and one dude is not. All the girls get very excited over one guy, and then the other guy, they're like, ah, it's his night. It's kind of funny. If you get a chance to watch Poly, you can stomach it. Watch pot, I mean. And in the sense that there are long periods of very boring punctuated by a few interesting things. I don't think this thing gets a second season because, quite frankly, it's. It's just. It's not that interesting.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I agree.

[Chris Hoadley]

It really isn't. Well, I've gotten over the shock of two dads and two moms. It wasn't that shocking in the first place. And we watched that video. I'll tell you what is shocking, and we'll talk about this a little, because we haven't talked about TV in a while. I did get a chance to pick the Pit back up. Have you seen all of the Pit?

[Jeff]

Oh yeah, we watched it all.

[Chris Hoadley]

I got one more, one and a half more episodes to go. What a fucking show they put together.

[Jeff]

I know. I didn't want to watch another medical drama.

[Chris Hoadley]

I have no interest in medical drama.

[Jeff]

Is this was fast paced, very good, very interesting, very timely about things going on in the world and society.

[Chris Hoadley]

So, yeah, yeah, it's.

[Jeff]

As long as they don't all start like having romances and going down that road, I think.

[Chris Hoadley]

I think they're probably going to have a good sense for what's working here. And that is the very technical, very fast paced nature. For those of you who haven't seen the Pit. It's on Mac. It's brilliantly done. It's done from some of the same people who did er. Yeah, I think it was er. Er, was it?

[Jeff]

No. Well, Noah.

[Chris Hoadley]

Noah Wiley is in it and he wrote it and helped put it together with another executive producer of er. As a matter of fact, they're being sued by the people who created ER saying they stole the material. Yeah, but ER is the medical drama on a major. Or was a medical drama on a major network television station and abc, I think, and they. It ended up being a soap opera.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

At the end of the day there was a lot of technicality to ER also and I think that's what made it interesting at first. But it ended up being just a big soap opera. This is far from that. This is not a soap opera. This is 15 hour a shift of emergency room doctors in a teaching hospital in Pittsburgh. And what happens if. And what happens when all the death, all the emergencies, the way in which they teach, you know, interns how to do medicine. It's very fascinating and so well acted because it's not overacted, it's just done really nicely. Right. And I say that nicely. I mean it's just like, it's so at times muted that it's easy to see that this could, this could be an emergency room anywhere. America.

[Jeff]

My favorite's the head nurse.

[Chris Hoadley]

The head nurse is great.

[Jeff]

I love her.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, she's great. She's got a great attitude. I think Noah Wylie in this is brilliant.

[Jeff]

Well, he is, yes.

[Chris Hoadley]

And I never have paid attention to Noah Wy, but I think he's very brilliant in this. And I just got ended one of the episodes last night with the scene where he gets very emotional and I got emotional with him. I was like, it's easy to see how, if you're an emergency room doctor anywhere in the world, but especially here in the United States, how crazy it must be to do your job on a daily basis. Not only do you have to worry about. About the emergencies that are literally happening in front of you, life or death, you're playing God, and you don't always get it right, and you can't always get it right, and you're gonna lose, you know, some of the people that you're trying to work on in the. In the moment of the. The moment they most need you to do your job 100% correctly. Sometimes you just can't do that because none of us can do that. We're human, we're fallible. Right. But then also to deal with all of the other bullshit that comes along with medicine in America in 2025, very difficult to do. You have to navigate, you know, budget cuts and insurance and, you know, Medicaid and Medicare and all this other stuff. And I think they do a good job of highlighting some of this stuff without making it overly politicized or one way or the other. They. They do a really good job. And the Pit has been picked up for season two and season three, I believe.

[Jeff]

Oh, I'm sure.

[Chris Hoadley]

And so please get the fuck to it, because I want to see more episodes of the Pit. That's the one thing I. That the streamers. Sometimes that bothers me is that it can be a long period of time before you get the next one. But hopefully Max, being a television station first, will understand, is that you shouldn't go, you know, years before the next season comes out. You have to satiate Brian's palate for medical dramas. Now I'm into medical. I'm a medical drama guy. Never thought I'd say that. But here I am, medical drama kind of guy. You know what I'm saying? And you know what else I'm seeing? I'm seeing a lot of. Is that sex sent me to the er.

[Jeff]

I was just about to bring that up. Speaking of sexualness and ERs.

[Chris Hoadley]

Sex brought me to the ER. Yeah, sex sent me to the ER.

[Jeff]

And I've heard doctors, too, that have, like, reached out to other, you know, podcasts and things, saying, like, the craziest stuff.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Like what not to do. Like, you should definitely not put a light pole in your ass.

[Chris Hoadley]

No. Yeah, that seems like pretty common. Human brain, human stuff. But you never know. It's 2025 and you never know, and people are into weird shit. Right. But this Show Sex sent me to the er and I've. I only see, like, little bits and pieces of it because it's on at 2 o' clock in the afternoon. Oh.

[Jeff]

I was gonna say, what is the regular schedule?

[Chris Hoadley]

I don't know. I have no idea. I really don't. But I know that it's on in the afternoon, so I don't watch it. Cause I don't want my children watching. As a matter of fact, I walked in one day, it was on, and one of my daughters was sitting there playing, and there's like this graphic description of something. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what is this? And then I was like, oh, that's interesting. Let me turn it on in the other room where she's not. It's very interesting, but it's all real. And a lot of times the doctors. So it's a reenactment of something that actually happened. And a lot of times the doctors who saw the patient are actually in the program. They're the actors. Yeah. So it's really, you know, interesting. And it made me think, this is the Pit. Just real stories. That's it. That's all it is. It's just a real story. So very fascinating stuff. I think the Pit, if it doesn't win awards, I don't know what wins awards. But it should win awards because it's very good. And I'm almost sad to watch the last episode because what do I do? See to then? Where do I go then?

[Jeff]

Have you watched the studio?

[Chris Hoadley]

I have not watched the studio, but I've heard a lot of people talk about it. It's good. I've read a lot about it.

[Jeff]

It's interesting and based on true things.

[Chris Hoadley]

True things that happened. I did read Bryan Cranston was talking about. He's a studio head and he was supposed to give a speech in Vegas and he ended up taking ecstasy or something or getting high on cocaine or whatever it was. Was. And then he has to play this kind of up. Or was it LSD or shrooms? I can't remember.

[Jeff]

Shrooms.

[Chris Hoadley]

Okay. Shrooms. Okay. And then he has to play that.

[Jeff]

Yeah. We've got one more left. And then I think that's it.

[Chris Hoadley]

That's it for the season.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

Oh, wow.

[Jeff]

So get caught up on it. There's 30 minutes too, so it's easy.

[Chris Hoadley]

Okay, Text in. What are you watching? 212-4333. TCB. I'm so fascinated to hear what other people are watching. Like, we're missing stuff. I know we are. Because thousands. There's thousands of television channels, shows, thousands and thousands. And I can't possibly make it to all of them. But I am looking for. Here's one. I'm repeating Tacoma fd, which is the stupidest comedy show you've ever seen, about a fire department in Tacoma, Washington. And it was on true tv, I think, for a minute. Now Netflix has picked it up. It's got four or five seasons. It's a terrible comedy show, but it's funny because it doesn't try and be anything but a terrible comedy show. It's from those same guys who did Super Troopers. Do you know what I'm talking about? Like the Squirrely Chameleon group or whatever, the improv comedy group. It is so dumb, and I love it. I hope they make thousands of more episodes of Tacoma fd because when I go to sleep at night, I don't want to watch anything particularly Brain strain.

[Jeff]

Right. I get what you're saying.

[Chris Hoadley]

I do that in the shop or here in the studio.

[Jeff]

You need to finish gemstones.

[Chris Hoadley]

I do need to finish gemstones.

[Jeff]

God, it's so funny. It's at the top of my list to go back and rewatch if I.

[Chris Hoadley]

Don'T see Walter Goggins in every third reel on Instagram right now. He is having his moment.

[Jeff]

He really is. This is his moment between White Lotus and Jim Stones. Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

I hope that Walter, my old buddy Walter Goggins, I hope that he is enjoying his moment in the sun. Didn't he just the host Saturday Night Live, too?

[Jeff]

Did he?

[Chris Hoadley]

He did.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. And I read a review about it. It said he wasn't really used all that well. But it's this guy who does these reviews. He's really hard on Saturday. He never gives Saturday Night Live more than a B minus, like, ever. I'm not even going to name the magazine, but it's like, obviously he's just pining for the, you know, the old days. Everybody's always pining for the old days on Saturday Night Live. That's the way that it goes.

[Jeff]

Yeah. It has to, like, evolve.

[Chris Hoadley]

It has to evolve. It has to move on. And I get it. You know, we kind of got spoiled with Sandler and Spade and Chris Farley and Will Ferrell and, you know, Tina Fey and all those. There were some great characters, but some of these. But we have Bowen Yang. We have Bowen Yang. We. We have somebody. We've got Bowen and we've got Colin Yost. And Colin Yost and. Oh, my God. Che.

[Jeff]

Michael.

[Chris Hoadley]

Che. Michael Che.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Michael Chef.

[Chris Hoadley]

Say Che Guevara. He's not Che Guevara. He didn't overthrow the Cuban government. Michael Che, who I made a comment about on a post that Saturday Night Live did, and I said that they probably are the best Weekend Update hosts ever.

[Jeff]

They're really good.

[Chris Hoadley]

They're really good. And for a while I thought, these guys are good. Then I thought, these guys are great. And now I think they might be the best ever. That's my personal opinion. I put that comment up there, and it got a lot of response. People were like, absolutely. Like, yes, that's correct. And because I think it is, name another Weekend Update person that was as good as those two have been. And there have very rarely been two of them at the same time. I can't think of one. Dennis Miller. Yeah, he was interesting, but is he the best? No, he's not.

[Jeff]

Well, Chevy Chase started it. Right, Right.

[Chris Hoadley]

What's that?

[Jeff]

Was he the first Chevy Chase?

[Chris Hoadley]

I think Chevy Chase was, but Chevy Chase didn't last very long on Saturday Night Live, so. And while we're speaking about tv, one more note. And some of you have already written in about this and thank you, but there's no thanks needed. RIP George went. Yay, Norm from Cheers. I put a little, I guess a little tribute to Norm at the beginning of one of the episodes this week. George went died at 73 years old. I think he was. George was Norm on Cheers. Cheers is one of the best television shows that has ever been. I was very young when it came out. I was very young when it was around.

[Jeff]

It ran for so long.

[Chris Hoadley]

It ran for like nine years.

[Jeff]

Yeah. And I mean, what iconic characters and topics and things that are still relevant today? I could go back and rewatch that show. I mean, not every one of them because there's so many, but if it was playing on tv, I'd watch the episode.

[Chris Hoadley]

We went to a bar in. In Greenville. We went to a restaurant that had a bar, and the bar had a couple of TVs, and on that TV was playing back to back to back Cheers episodes. And they had the volume up so people could hear it. Right. Wonderful restaurant, by the way. The food was delicious, just a little out of the way. Italian restaurant. And so I made mention to one of the people that was working there, I said, oh, that's interesting. You have Cheers, you know, and there was like a bunch of young people's, like, brunch time on a Sunday day. Bunch of young people sitting at the bar, and they were all staring at the Cheers and They go that. Everybody loves it here. We all watch it all over and over again. We can't get enough.

[Jeff]

One of those shows.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. And they said you wouldn't believe. It's Collegetown. All of these kids just, they. They all come in, they watch Cheers. They love it. It is one of those shows that you have never seen. If you're too young to know what Cheers is, or you're too young to have that in your. In your, I. I guess, ether, you need to put that in your ether, because it is so funny and so well done and so classic. It's just one of those shows you need to watch at least one time in your life. It's like Seinfeld. It's like Curb youb Enthusiasm. It's like Seven Little Johnstons. You have to put all of those shows in your ether. But George, Norm, the character Norm, is a big part of that show. His one liners and his kind of philosophy on life and that gadfly, barfly kind of personality that he has, always a beer in his hand, always jolly, always quick with a joke, is a character that resonates with everybody because I think we've met that person in our life. And he usually. A lot of times he would open the show like the show kind of started with Norm walking in the door and everybody yelling, norm. He'd throw out a one liner. And that's how a lot of these episodes started. He was a big part of my childhood because not only did I get this, like, was I alive and aware during the end of its run, but then it ran on reruns forever and ever and ever. It was always on somewhere. And my parents loved it. So we watched it and I loved it. And Norm, he had a place in my heart. So George went, RIP Buddy. Thanks for all the laughs. And the funny thing is, is that George wasn't in a whole, whole bunch of stuff beforehand, and he was almost not in anything afterwards. He did a couple of, like, reality shows and, like, documentary style shows. Yeah, like. Like, I think he was in that. How Beer Built the World or How Alcohol Built the World or whatever it was.

[Jeff]

Yeah, yeah, that show.

[Chris Hoadley]

I think he was like a. A commentator in that show. I think he did a couple of other things. I think he did, like, some local stuff up in Chicago. He was certainly on Saturday Night Live a few times doing his Bears guy, you know, Da Bears. But he really largely just did Cheers. And hey, listen, you could probably live on Cheers money, I would imagine.

[Jeff]

Yeah, I would think so.

[Chris Hoadley]

But, yeah, that character Norm has a place in my heart. I know.

[Jeff]

Me too.

[Chris Hoadley]

I. I think it was formative in my comedy, the way that he would just throw out those one liners. So I'm still not nearly as funny as anybody on Cheers, but go watch it. Do yourself a favor. Oh, I'm really sad. I wish. I wish there was a cheers of 20, 25. I wish, I wish we had a show like. I wish anybody gave a show a chance. Chance to go nine or 10 years. You know what I'm saying?

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

But not. Not today. We're all too busy trying to find another partner to cuckold. We're all too busy swinging. Putting upside down pineapples.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Getting on cruises.

[Chris Hoadley]

All right. Hey, listen. Nothing wrong with that.

[Jeff]

No more power to you.

[Chris Hoadley]

I. I'd love to hear, if you're a swinger, what are the rules of the road?

[Jeff]

I would like to hear some tips and tidbits and tricks. I don't know.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah, I'd like to figure out how I get involved in all this. If I make a decision to go into it. I don't want to do it like we did with podcasting and end up on Podcast magazine. I want to avoid the podcast magazine of swinging. Yes, please. So let us know. Give us some information. 212-4333. TCB. I bet you dollars to donuts there's a couple swingers in our group.

[Jeff]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris Hoadley]

In our list. Okay. 212-4333. TC. TCB. 212-433-3822. Questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas? Or if you want to be a part of tcb's endless day, send us a text message so we can get you on the schedule. Figure it out, get you lined up to talk to us. Hopefully we'll be able to fit everybody in. There's quite a few people have already called, texted us, actually, so.

[Jeff]

Really?

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. But we might need the help. You never know. It just might be seven hours of us talking to other people on the telephone, or it might be seven hours of other people doing the show and you and I taking a nap. But probably not.

[Jeff]

Come with me.

[Chris Hoadley]

Yeah. Because TCB's endless day is sponsored by Five Hour Energy. And you can go to Fiveourenergy.com to get special flavors, hot sauces, all kind of stuff that they make. Check out 5hourenergy.com when you get a chance. Tcbpodcast.com that's where you find out about Chrissy and I. All the comings and goings of the show, all the audio, all the Video. It's right there. TCBpodcast.com and your free TCB sticker available on the contact us button. Hit the drop down menu. It says I want my free sticker. Give us your physical address, we will send you one. Don't worry about it. We'll cover the cost. What is it, $6.25 for a stamp now? Okay. And I don't even think we have a post office anymore. Actually.

[Jeff]

Actually, I know. I don't think so.

[Chris Hoadley]

I don't think. Yeah, I don't think we have mail service. If we do, it's not gonna last for long.

[Jeff]

I'm surprised every day it shows up.

[Chris Hoadley]

Honestly, I'm surprised we're still functioning as a society. Add the commercial break on Instagram, TCB podcast on tick tock and YouTube.com the commercial break for all of the episodes on video the same day. Usually they air here on the audio. Okay, Chrissy, that's all I can do for today?

[Jeff]

I think so.

[Chris Hoadley]

I'll tell you that I love you. Best to you. Best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, Chrissy and I will say. We do say and we must say goodbye.

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[Chris Hoadley]

Sam.

[Jeff]

Ra.