White People Culture

Summary

The Commercial Break | "White People Culture" (July 4, 2024)

Episode Overview

In this lively, offbeat episode of The Commercial Break, hosts Brian Green and Kristen Joy Hoadley riff on viral internet fame, reality TV misadventures, the enduring oddity that is Wheel of Fortune, and the everyday strangeness of "white people culture"—mostly as observed through lake life, tacky beaches, and awkward attempts at Americana. The chaotic duo skewers the latest "Hawk Tua Girl" meme, lampoons a would-be reality show called "The Fabric of America," and waxes nostalgic (and slightly bewildered) about the impending changes at Wheel of Fortune. As always, their banter is unfiltered, irreverent, and consistently veers into tangents, making for an episode that's one part pop culture roast, one part friendship therapy session.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. The "Hawk Tua" Girl Goes Viral (00:57–11:27)

Viral Moment Recap

• Brian and Kristen dive into the explosion of the "Hawk Tua Girl" video—a viral, raunchy "man-on-the-street" interview where a young woman, found inebriated and explicit, shouts sexual advice: "You gotta give him that Hawk tua! Spit on that thing."
• The hosts discuss the meteoric rise of this accidental celebrity, who was fired from her teaching job but parlayed her fifteen minutes into over $65,000 in branded merchandise sales (hats that say "Hawk Tua").

Social & Cultural Commentary

• On instant internet fame:
  Brian: “It’s literally insane… a man on the street interview turns her into like this mini-celebrity, that then she’s making a bunch of money off two words that she said: ‘Haktua.’” (05:20)

• On the Howard Stern reaction:
  Brian: "Howard Stern had some opinions about this... he said, ‘I’m glad that’s not my daughter.’ From Howard fucking Stern, man. Have things changed?" (05:56)

• On generational differences:
  Kristen: “Thank God there were not cameras in every person’s hand when you and I were teenagers… I certainly would have been unemployable. I still am.” (08:05)

Memorable Quotes

• Kristen, satirizing the viral phrase: “Spit on that thing.” (05:41)
• Brian: “She just happened to have hit viral like we will never and capitalized on it.” (09:45)

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2. DIY Reality TV and "Lake Life" Lampooned (11:03–39:16)

Introduction to "The Fabric of America"

• Brian discusses a bizarre local news story of elderly abuse connected to a woman who self-produced a high-budget, low-substance "reality" travel show: "The Fabric of America."
• He and Kristen play and break down clips from the first episode, noting its overly slick production paired with wooden delivery and platitude-heavy narration.

Satirical Breakdown

• On Lake Lanier Culture:
  Jim (recurring voice/character): “String bikinis and gummy boob jobs. Add a little bit of cocaine and deny an ayahuasca trip or two, and wa-bam: 60-year-old women acting like teenagers. Jaeger bombs make the G-strings come off.” (13:16-13:53)

• On the show’s cringeworthy content:
  Brian: “I have never seen someone so terrible on camera in my entire life. This lady is a stiff plastic board.” (15:53)
  Kristen: “There’s no emotion in the voice.” (20:48)

• Beach Town Stereotypes:
  Repeated, deadpan mocking of the show’s narration—“It’s a perfect blend of surf culture and community. There’s something magic happening here in New Smyrna Beach.” (35:28)

Timestamps for Notable Segments

• Play-by-play of "The Fabric of America" trailer: 19:57–36:28
• Skewering platitude-laden dialogue: 21:32–22:39, 24:05–25:21
• Jab at generic “local business” talk: 30:19–31:19

Memorable Quotes

• Brian: "I'm starting a movement where I celebrate people breathing every day." (21:49)
• Kristen (summing up): “You just documented your vacation. You just went on vacation, talked to a bunch of hot surfers… and then said, 'I won’t forget.'” (36:00)

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3. Wheel of Fortune Drama & The Commercialization of Nostalgia (40:01–53:53)

The Host Switch-up Scoop

• Brian recaps Pat Sajak’s retirement, the underappreciated legacy of Vanna White, and the hiring of the omnipresent Ryan Seacrest.
• Discussion around tabloid rumors of Vanna White struggling to work with Seacrest and contemplating her exit, even after finally getting (rumored) pay parity.

Famous Quotes & Running Gags

• Brian: “This guy [Ryan Seacrest] making the rest of us look like assholes... Here I am thinking I’m a Christ on the cross for doing four episodes of this stupid show a week.” (42:20)
• Jim: “That’s Ryan Seacrest. We’ve been quantum physicking him for a long time. He’s the first of many. Chrissy Hoadley is also a robot, keeping Brian in that studio so he doesn’t cause additional trouble outside.” (43:32)

Cultural Commentary

• Exploration of audience nostalgia (the appeal to both very young kids and older generations), and musings on why shows like Wheel of Fortune feel “comforting.”
• The duo reflects on the Board and video game versions of Wheel of Fortune, and the economics of Vanna White’s $85 million net worth (including “her own brand of yarn”).

Memorable Quotes

• Brian: “I wish Ryan Seacrest doesn’t fucking fart all over the Wheel of Fortune name. Not because I particularly care... but just for the sake of all the seniors out there and your kids. Senior home and my kids.” (50:49)
• Kristen: “Yarn is probably a good business to be in, I would imagine… It’s making a resurgence amongst young people learning to crochet.” (52:01)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 05:20 | Brian | "It’s literally insane… a man on the street interview turns her into like this mini-celebrity, that then she’s making a bunch of money off two words that she said: ‘Haktua.’" | | 05:56 | Brian | "Howard Stern had some opinions about this... he said, ‘I’m glad that’s not my daughter.’ From Howard fucking Stern, man. Have things changed?" | | 13:16–13:53| Jim | “String bikinis and gummy boob jobs. Add a little bit of cocaine and deny an ayahuasca trip or two, and wa-bam: 60-year-old women acting like teenagers. Jaeger bombs make the G-strings come off.” | | 21:49 | Brian | "I'm starting a movement where I celebrate people breathing every day." | | 36:00 | Kristen | “You just documented your vacation. You just went on vacation, talked to a bunch of hot surfers… and then said, 'I won’t forget.'” | | 42:20 | Brian | "This guy [Ryan Seacrest] making the rest of us look like assholes... Here I am thinking I’m a Christ on the cross for doing four episodes of this stupid show a week." | | 50:49 | Brian | "I wish Ryan Seacrest doesn’t fucking fart all over the Wheel of Fortune name. Not because I particularly care... but just for the sake of all the seniors out there and your kids. Senior home and my kids." |

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Tone, Style, and Takeaways

• The tone is self-aware, frequently self-deprecating, and lampoons both the absurdity and banality of viral culture, reality programming, and Americana.
• Their humor is brash, sometimes absurdist, and punctuated by running bits (the recurring “Jim” voice), callbacks ("wa-bam!"), and endless riffs on everyday weirdness.
• The real throughline is media manipulation—how fame, culture, and “wholesome” entertainment are constructed, and how quickly they can become farce.

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In Closing

“White People Culture” delivers exactly what its title promises: a rambling, brutally honest (but affectionate) roast of the banalities, memes, and oddball corners of white American culture, all refracted through the unmistakable lens of two improv pros who know a thing or two about living with their own embarrassing moments. Whether skewering viral teacher-turned-meme queens or earnestly debating Vanna White’s legacy, Brian and Kristen keep the laughs coming while never letting their targets off the hook.

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Listen for:

• Comedic deep-dives into the accidental monetization of memes
• Ruthless breakdowns of self-financed reality TV
• Behind-the-scenes peeks at legacy TV, wrapped in jokes
• A podcast episode that, as always, is “just FINE…and not for everyone”

Transcript

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Gotta straighten up my life. This heat wave made me realize I can't go to hell.

[Brian Green]

On this episode of the commercial break.

[Gretchen Filia]

I come down to North Florida to have sex with Matt. He's been part of the North Florida community for four months and he's got. He's really tapped in. He really tapped into all the sun fun and fan surf culture. We came to the local Margaritaville to check out the local culture.

[Brian Green]

The next episode of the commercial break starts now. 2:30 in the morning. Oh, yeah, cats and kittens. Welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co host of this show, Kristen Joy Hoadley. Best to you, Kristen.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Best to you, Brian, and best to.

[Brian Green]

You out there in the pond podcast universe. Thanks for joining us. I'm just reading about the Haktua girl. Yes.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

What?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It's still playing.

[Brian Green]

Oh, it's still playing.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, okay.

[Brian Green]

Sorry. I was gonna play it for everybody and then. Okay, let's see if we. I'll see if I can get it up here. But this girl, for those of you that don't know, here's the interview. Okay. And I'm gonna play this. This is.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

She's all over.

[Brian Green]

She's all over the socials. If you haven't heard this interview yet, let me play a little bit for you. I'll turn down the annoying music in the background. Let's turn down the obnoxious music in the background. Here she is. Okay to get over one is get under another. Amen.

[Interviewer]

So say you got a side piece.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Maybe. Maybe I got three. Maybe I got seven.

[Interviewer]

How many on your roster?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, there's two girls.

[Brian Green]

There's two girls in.

[Interviewer]

So how many you got on your roster right now?

[Jim]

Maybe four.

[Audience Member]

One.

[Brian Green]

She said one.

[Interviewer]

Maybe four. How many you got on your roster?

[Brian Green]

None.

[Interviewer]

Trying to add one to it.

[Brian Green]

Add one?

[Interviewer]

Yeah. You're trying to add one more to it? Yeah, that's me.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Maybe. I don't know.

[Interviewer]

So I can get your number?

[Brian Green]

Yeah, you can. Okay.

[Interviewer]

There you go.

[Brian Green]

You got it.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

There you go.

[Brian Green]

So I'll explain in a second.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Good question.

[Brian Green]

It's like, you gotta make it good.

[Interviewer]

Leave a message to your last body.

[Brian Green]

My last body. Yeah. I miss you.

[Audience Member]

Come back.

[Interviewer]

You miss him?

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Interviewer]

He's doing his little thing.

[Brian Green]

I can't hold on. Let's get to the Haktua girl.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, I know. That's like the whole.

[Brian Green]

Here she comes. Hold on.

[Interviewer]

Leave a message to your last. Leave a message to your last body.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I love you, Pookie.

[Brian Green]

Forever. This is the hoktua girl.

[Interviewer]

They must been doing the right thing.

[Brian Green]

What can I say? Okay, make the cobwebs off the side. How are you supposed to.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I'm waiting.

[Audience Member]

Come on.

[Brian Green]

That fat you got.

[Interviewer]

Turn around, let me see.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

So you're really playing the whole interview?

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Her dad must be proud.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I know.

[Interviewer]

Give us a 360.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

This guy interviewing two girls.

[Brian Green]

Let me. It's hard to. Because there's so much background noise. It's hard. But let me explain to you so that we don't have to listen to this for another 15 minutes. He's interviewing. It's best, basically. Man on the street. Yeah, kind of interviewing. He's in Nashville, I believe.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

No, Texas.

[Brian Green]

Oh, Austin, Texas.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Something like.

[Brian Green]

Something like that. He's in. He's wherever he is. Okay.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Or maybe they're in Nashville. But yeah, she's from Texas.

[Brian Green]

We don't know any of the information.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

She's from Texas.

[Brian Green]

She's from Texas. He comes up, he starts interviewing. Obviously they've been having a good time. They're a little bit inebriated, and the two girls start. He starts asking questions related to their sex life. He asks how many bodies they have, how many they have on call right now. What's on their roster. Is it Michael Anthony? Like, is it 17 or is it 1 or is it 0? One of them says 1 or 0, and then the other one says, I don't know, 4, 7, who knows? And then he goes, no, seriously, how many are on there? Four. Okay, whatever. Cool. And then he starts asking questions like, you know, what do you do?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

What's a man? What? What's a good thing for a man that. That drives him wild? And she yells, hawk to it.

[Brian Green]

She yells hawk to it. Like she's spinning.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

She says, spit on that thing.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, spit on that thing. So millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of views later, now everybody has an opinion on the hawk to a girl.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, yeah, everybody.

[Brian Green]

She's got the last laugh. And I'll. I'll share with you why she just sold, in just a couple of days, $65,000 worth of hats that have the word haktua on it. And she partnered with a company, Fathead, I think, is who she partnered with. She partnered with Fathead. They made a hat that said hock to a couple different versions of the hat. She signed some of them. Merch.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

She's doing crazy merch. Well, she got fired from her teaching job.

[Brian Green]

I would imag. That would be the case. Yeah. She got fired from her teaching job. I mean, it's not the most, like, flattering interview ever, but God bless America.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Wow. I know you get famous for saying ha and make 65 grand. I'm sure you have to split that in some way, shape or form, but. Okay, let's say you made half. 32. 5. You made 32. 5.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I saw some projected that she was going to make millions.

[Brian Green]

Well, that's just. That's her teaching salary right there. $32.5K. Yeah. It's literally insane to me that a man on the street interview and I say man on the street. That's just a term for it. Man on the street interview turns her into, like this mini celebrity status that then she's making a bunch of money off of two words that she said. Haktua.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Spit on that thing.

[Brian Green]

Spit on that thing. So there's lots. So now, as you can imagine, the late night hosts are having a great time with it. The comedians are having a great time. Every podcast in the entire world has talked about it. We're the last to do it.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

We do it. You heard it here at last.

[Brian Green]

You heard it here last. Hawk to a kids. I was reading that Howard Stern had some opinions about this, and basically what I read it, I didn't hear it, but basically what he said was, I am glad that's not my daughter.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

From Howard fucking Stern. Howard fucking Stern, man. Have things changed? I guess you saw often in your old age. Because wasn't Howard Stern having people ride the Sibyn up until, like, 10 years ago?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Exactly. Every stripper ever.

[Brian Green]

Every stripper ever.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I would talk. Yes.

[Brian Green]

Fake or real. Sal and whoever the other one are, you know, they're s. And Richard, they're always in there licking each other's balls or some weird and, you know, the fastest comer contest. Who. Who had the most poop. I mean, like, the amazing amount of crass and incredibly impolitically correct stunts that they have done over the years that Howard has encouraged or in some way done over the years. And then the hawk to a girl gets him. The hawk to a girl got you, Howard. That's what changed your. Really. I mean, listen, the king. He's the king. You know, I think the whole podcast industry may have. Howard may have had some influence and responsibility for the whole podcast industry because he just was one who started talking for hours and hours in a way that wasn't political or had to do with Jesus or whatever the AM stations were doing. He really made this brand of kind of media popular, this talking forever. This incense talk radio incessant nonsense that we do here on this commercial. Right. And some way, shape or form probably finds its roots in Howard. And he was as rowdy as it gets. And especially when he got to serious satellite. And now the hawk to a girl is bothering him. That's the most surprising thing about the Haktua girl to me is that Howard Stern is against it.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, that. That broke the back.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. But as a father of daughters, I do have to say, if that was my daughter, I would be like, honey, honey, that's going to live on the Internet forever. You don't do the man on the street interview when you're drunk.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Mom, ten years from now. That was the hawk to a girl.

[Brian Green]

Oh, God. True story. Thank God there were not cameras in every person's hand when you and I were teenagers. Thank God, because I. Oh, I certainly would have been unemployable. I still am.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, we both are now.

[Brian Green]

I certainly would have been unemployable. And. And how much shenanigans would have been caught on camera if a camera was.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Around other world having to deal with that.

[Brian Green]

It's a landmine filled world. Now there's some positive that came with this. I mean, she lost her job, but you're a teacher, young lady. I don't. I don't even know what your name is, but you're a teacher. And I can understand how parents might be upset that you're giving like sexually explicit, you know, point of view interviews on while you're drunk in some town. Also, it just so happened that that video went viral. Fast. Viral? Yeah, like fast viral. You can't be the teacher of elementary school kids when you're giving advice to the world on how to on a dick. That's some reason it just doesn't jive. You know what I'm saying?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It's so funny too, the things, because Jeff showed this to me a few days ago. He was like, you know, every day he's been like, has Brian brought it up? Has Brian bought it?

[Brian Green]

Oh, really? Jeff was curious if I bought up.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

The hotel because he was all over his social feeds. So he told me about it. And it's so funny too, some of the things that people are lamin lamenting.

[Brian Green]

About, lamenting about, lamenting about.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

You know, they're like, no, seriously, in all seriousness, the hawk to a girl is very free sexually and I admire her. And like.

[Brian Green]

Okay.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And there's a lot of different viewpoints.

[Brian Green]

Listen, I don't. We have said so many things that are way Past what this girl did, she just happened to have hit viral like we will never and capitalized on it.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Good for her.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Because you only get the moment because next week it's going to be something different.

[Brian Green]

Oh, next week it's something totally different. I wish that I could just get the. I wish I could just get the actual Hawk to a. Hold on one second. Okay, here we go. Okay, here we go. You got to give him that Hawk. Spit on that thing.

[Gretchen Filia]

Every time a real plays a fairy.

[Brian Green]

Gets her spitty dick.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Hey, listen. Cool. Sweet. I, you know, I wonder which. But I. I read also that some people started to speculate that she had like, now she had a big time agent at UTA or WME or one of these big agencies out there. That apparently is not true. What I just read is that it's not true. She's not being represented. But there are people speculating out there that she could get like Hollywood come. Could come and knock him. I could. Hollywood. Hollywood. Let's. Let's not go that far.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

What, the document the latest documentary on Hulu.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, exactly. The rise and the fall of Hawk to a girl. Or let's put it another way, Real Housewives of Haktua. I think that's more like it.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

I could see a reality show where they just follow this girl around and she goes from bar to bar giving advice.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Well, they do a reality show for anything.

[Gretchen Filia]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I said that's possible.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Speaking of reality shows. Okay, so Hawk to a girl. Check it out. It's. Maybe Christina could put a link to the video and. Good for her. You know what? I have no problems with? None problems with it. Because we talk a lot worse in the. In the worst of our episodes. Like in the lamest of our episodes, we say things that are ten times the worst. Speaking of reality show, it's very interesting. I. There is a lady here in Atlanta, just north of Atlanta, speaking of Lake Lanier. Remember we talked about lake life? Lake Lanier. It's a huge lake.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Green]

There's a lot of different. There's a lot of different sections. You know, some are more rednecky, some are more ritzy. Ritzy. Some are just somewhere in between. Some are pure Ibiza.

[Audience Member]

It's true.

[Brian Green]

Like the Mississippi. Ibiza. You know what I'm saying? Like the Louisiana. It's just, you know, there's a Margaritaville that's about 78 acres here at Lake Lanier. That. That should tell you all you need to know about Lake Lanier. But it's a lot of fun. And I had my Lake Lanier moment.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I did too.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, everyone, I think if you live in Atlanta, you go to Lake Lanier, you just do it so in. But there's also some parts of Lake Lanier that are really like out there. You. There's nobody out there. You know, there's trailer parks and you.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Know, you look at it when you're flying over it. You know, whenever you're on the windows. Mostly on popcorn over it.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And it's huge. It's huge. There's so many sections too.

[Brian Green]

And it's a man made lake. It was made by the army corps of Engineers. They damned the river, the Chattahoochee River. I think they damned the Chattahoochee river and just covered up whole towns that were under the lake. And they're still there to this day. They're still sitting in stasis essentially out there today. Take a wall, take a wall, put it there. Boom.

[Jim]

Lake linear.

[Brian Green]

Wa, bam.

[Jim]

String bikinis and gummy boob jobs.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Add a little bit of cocaine and.

[Jim]

Deny ayahuasca trip or two. And wa bam. 60 year old women acting like teenagers.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Jagermeister, Jaeger bombs.

[Jim]

It's quantum science. Makes you drunk 2.7 times faster. Your heart will race, but you'll feel like you want to puke. It's amazing. Jaeger bombs make the G strings come off.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Definitely the top.

[Brian Green]

Oh yeah. Top saw. Chi Chi's out. What is it? Chichi's up. But don't, don't get it twisted. The guys are just as dumb.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh yeah.

[Brian Green]

Doing. Yeah. How do I know? I was one of them. Okay, there we go. So I read this very interesting story the other day. It's very interesting. Kind of sad actually. And so I'll share the light hearted part about this and we'll get into how this has to do with reality television. The Cherokee or whatever. County police officers get a phone call to do a welfare check on an older lady. Like a lady in her 80s. They go up toward the lake. They're at a campground. They find this old lady, she's in some kind of state of disarray. And there's other people with her, a man and a woman. And the lady is apparently in some kind of shape. And the officers say, well, you know, are you okay? Do you want us to take you somewhere? Do you want us to do something? And she says no or the, the. Excuse me. The lady who is with her says no, I'm her daughter. I'll take Care of it. We're going to take her back to the house. Fast forward to two days later. They come back because someone has complained about someone screaming from a tent. And they find this older lady tied up. Tied up. Sitting in her own urine in a tent. It's 900 degrees here in Atlanta, sitting in a tent near the lake. And apparently the woman, her daughter had put her in the tents and tied her up and left her. Wow. Crazy, terrible story, right? You know, elderly abuse and all the other stuff that you can think of. So Brian decides he's going to. I decide I'm going to talk to the third person. I decide I'm going to go do a little Internet rabbit hole on this one. Let me see who this lady is. Maybe we know her, right? She's older than us, but not by. Not by a Todd, you know, And I'm like, maybe we know her. There's, you know, she looks familiar to me. Her face looks familiar. Let me do a hunt on her name. And so when I search her name, I find out that, yes, we have interacted with this lady before. I don't know where. I don't know.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

The older lady.

[Brian Green]

No, the daughter.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

The daughter, Yeah.

[Brian Green]

I don't know where. I don't know how. I'm not going to share her name here on here because I don't want doxing or any of that other bullshit. Innoc. Proven guilty, though. It looks pretty terrible. And when I hit on her website, she is the founder of this media company. The media company has put together a reality show, I guess is the best way to put it. This lady is going to go all around the country and she's going to talk to people about what makes America great. Get it? Got it. Good. So there's like four episodes that she's had slickly produced. I mean, like, very high production values. Slickly produced. I have never seen someone so terrible on camera in my entire life. This lady is a stiff plastic board. The things that she says, like the. In the interludes and in the. In the interviews and all this, it is Chrissy. It is so funny to me. And I'm. I'm thinking to myself, where in the world did this reality television show or this, whatever you call it, adventure show, where in the world was this shown in it? Because it says, you know, now available on this particular tv. I thought to myself, what is that? Like, I have lots of channels on my television. I've never seen that channel. Right. Or maybe I just haven't paid attention to it. It's not A channel. It's not tv. It's dot. Her own website. She basically is running this on her own website. And I thought to myself, what a desperate attempt. You spend all of this money to put out a reality show. And listen, I know this happens on a daily basis that people put together television shows that never get picked up by anybody, but there's reasons why this television show was never picked up by anybody. It is terrible from top to bottom. Do you want to hear a little bit of it?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Sure.

[Brian Green]

You want to hear a little bit of it? Okay, let's do this. Why don't we take a break and then I'll. I'll load it up here and then you and I can take a listen to the. The first episode and we'll just break it down just a little bit and. Okay, you know, whatever. Maybe we share her name, maybe we don't. We'll figure it out. Okay, let's take a break and we'll be back. Hi.

[Audience Member]

No, you're not dreaming. And yes, this is a new promo. See, I made you wait, and now look how happy you are. I know, I know you're smiling. Anyway, since we're here, why don't you just hop on over Instagram and give us a follow at the commercial break? Seriously, Please. It's getting hard for me to listen to Brian and Chrissy beg. So just follow us on Instagram again. That's hecommercial break. You can also follow us on TikTok, CB Podcast, and of course, you know where to go for all things TCB. That is tcbpodcast.com, baby. And of course, you can always text us or call us and leave us a voicemail at 212-4333, TCB. Yep, that phone number is no longer new, but it is still around. And that's a win. 212-4333. TCV. Love you. Bye.

[Brian Green]

Okay, here we go. We're talking about. So there was a terrible incident up at Lake Lanier. I googled one of the women that was involved in this incident because I thought that she looked familiar to me. And I do believe we have met this person before. When I got to the website where it had more information about her, it showed this, like, paid for reality television show that this person had put together. And let's take a little. Let's take a little gander at what probably $200,000. Get you. You ready? Yeah. All right, let's see here. Lots of pictures of her. Lots of pictures of her at the beach. I think it's just an excuse to go down to the beach and film something. You know, Jimmy's hulas. Where's that? I don't know. Sometime down to Florida, I'm sure.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Fabric of America.

[Brian Green]

Fabric of America. You hear like an eagle screaming in the background.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

I'm here in beautiful Florida sun. Fun to endless summer.

[Gretchen Filia]

Voice already?

[Jim]

Yeah, that's in three seasons of this.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Experience in beach time, adventure and R R. I'm going to reignite by hanging out in the local habitat.

[Brian Green]

I'm gonna ring nut. What did you say?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I don't know.

[Brian Green]

It's so bad. I mean, but the videography is beautiful.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It is beautiful. Yeah. Very professional.

[Brian Green]

Very professional.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Head over to one of the coolest surf shops for some local artistry and learn more about the local ecosystem and everyone in America.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, there's no emotion in the voice.

[Gretchen Filia]

For local artistry where the surf shop has local artistry.

[Brian Green]

What is she talking about?

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Has to offer and maybe even catch a big one.

[Brian Green]

Oh, I bet you got a few big ones.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

What's the point?

[Brian Green]

There is no point. And here's the thing. The music just keeps on going on forever. Yeah, she's showcasing herself. Going to the beach is basically what this is.

[Jim]

It's a beach showcase.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

My name is Gretchen.

[Brian Green]

We'll fast forward to that just a little bit because I do not want to give her any more press than she already has. All right, there we go.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

My passion for America takes me all around the country where I visit the people, places and experiences.

[Brian Green]

People, places and things.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

The real America. I started a movement where I celebrate the people making it happen every day.

[Brian Green]

What movement did you start? You celebrate the people doing it every day. What is that? Could you get more platitude? I'm starting a movement where I celebrate people breathing every day.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Those moments that epitomize the American dream.

[Gretchen Filia]

Those moments.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

This really looks like an everyday thing that, you know, people can do all the time.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, this looks like a. This looks like a family vacation to Panama City is what this looks like, first of all. Second of all, this looks like 30 minutes of 2:30 in the morning television on your local ABC station where they pay for it. Yeah. Listen to the music. Just goes on and on and on. She's just like, there's no break from it.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

The fabric of America is being woven every day. Now I'm on the ultimate road trip across America to share the American made story.

[Gretchen Filia]

Listen, I have a great idea. What if I. What if I unweave the fabric of America every day?

[Brian Green]

And are you going to Be in this show.

[Gretchen Filia]

Of course, I am starting a movement of people that are doing it every day.

[Brian Green]

Every day.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Thank you, crazy Infilia. And I invite you to join me in discovering the fabric of America.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

So it's just her taking a road trip.

[Brian Green]

It's just her basically going into stores. Yeah. It's her filming, surfing. It's again, is her filming her beach trip and then putting obnoxious. Obnoxious music. Obnoxious music behind it for 15 minutes. No offense to the musician, but I don't think this is how you're. You intended this music to be used.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

I'm Gretchen Filia. New Smyrna beach, where it's sun and fun, but it's also a sense of community. This is the fabric of America.

[Brian Green]

Here comes the music. It's playing again.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And they're just showing. Reveal. Repetition repeated. Yeah. Her walking down a pier and then at the beach and then in a shop.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, Shop, beach pier. Shop, beach pier. Shop, beach pier. Let's go that rotation.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

My first stop is North Florida, New Smyrna Beach. I'm catching up with my good friend Matt.

[Gretchen Filia]

David. I'm catching up with my new friend David.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Matt is an influencer in the surf community, and he's been a part of the North Florida lifestyle and surf culture for many years. He has the hookup to the area and the people.

[Brian Green]

What more sweet dude serves us through. No shade on Matt here.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

She's like, I really want to hook up with Matt. So I've decided to feature him.

[Gretchen Filia]

She's like, I'm coming down to North Florida and have sex with Matt. He's been part of the North Florida community for four months and he's got. He's really tapped in.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Four months.

[Gretchen Filia]

He's really tapped into all the sun, fun, and sand. We came to the local Margaritaville. Check out the local culture. I brought my iPhone. Matt's really tuned into the waves.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Asked for from a host. So I'm ready to see what North Florida has to offer.

[Gretchen Filia]

Wow.

[Brian Green]

It just looks like a whole fun shits and giggles down there. Oysters, shopping and shots. Surfing. Yeah, shots. Actually. I'm pretty jealous. I'm pretty jealous.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

So I know New Smyrna beach, you know, it's a different environment. It just has a certain magic about it.

[Local Surfer]

Yeah, I've been coming out here since.

[Brian Green]

I was a kid.

[Gretchen Filia]

It has a certain.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Is that your old Honda?

[Jim]

Yes, it is.

[Brian Green]

Yes, it is. That is my old Honda. I'm assuming Matt's not making a ton of bank on that surfing. It's okay, Matt, I love you, bro.

[Gretchen Filia]

I don't.

[Brian Green]

I'm not. This is not about you, bro. Don't worry about it. I appreciate anyone who does surfing for a living. That's cool. I like that. That's better than the podcasting.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Showing this Honda parked on the beach.

[Brian Green]

Yes, I'm just parked on the beach. He's using the mirror to put on sunscreen. Not the mirror in the car, the rear, the side mirror.

[Gretchen Filia]

I'm coming down to North Florida. It's got a real magic to it.

[Brian Green]

Which could be said about any place. You know what I'm saying? Where's Anthony Bourdain when you need him Every day I miss Anthony more.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, I miss him too.

[Local Surfer]

Always brought me out here during vacations and things. And started surfing pretty young. Asked, begged my parents to bring me over here on the weekends. And eventually I knew.

[Jim]

What's that movie?

[Brian Green]

Mars Attacks.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, God.

[Local Surfer]

Like I'm gonna live here someday. For sure.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Founded along the Atlantic Ocean, beach towns were the mecca of Florida. And everyone flocked here.

[Gretchen Filia]

Everyone flocked here.

[Brian Green]

Great historical perspective.

[Gretchen Filia]

Found it along the oceans.

[Brian Green]

The beach towns.

[Gretchen Filia]

Found it along the ocean.

[Brian Green]

The beach flourished. You gotta be kidding me. Oh, man. I guess this beach town I'm setting up right down the street ain't gonna work out 200 miles inland.

[Audience Member]

Damn.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

He should have gone along the ocean.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Just wait 50 years. It'll be here.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It's coming.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Jim]

Quantum physics.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

I'm exploring another side of New Smyrna. A new generation.

[Gretchen Filia]

I'm exploring another side of New Smyrna. The drug culture.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I wish.

[Gretchen Filia]

I'm here with local crack dealer Method.

[Brian Green]

Bob. Bob.

[Gretchen Filia]

New Smyrna beach Cocaine has a real magic to it.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Found it along.

[Gretchen Filia]

Found it along the beach.

[Brian Green]

These drugs taste extra good with a.

[Gretchen Filia]

Cocktail from the Margaritaville.

[Brian Green]

This is what you get for leaving an old lady in a tent. You're crazy.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, my God.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Surfers are remaking the surf culture.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

The surfers are remaking the surf culture.

[Brian Green]

Are the surfers really be making the surf culture culture? Is that what's going on? Who else would remake the surf culture? Who did you. What was the usual suspect?

[Gretchen Filia]

I'm talking to my local mortician friend, Sal. He's remaking the surf culture by making.

[Brian Green]

Surfboards out of dead people.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Amazing. This is the life. All right. I'm moving down here. I never.

[Brian Green]

I just want to tell you in scene number four, great commentary. Really breaking it down there for us. Which idiot doesn't want to live in the beach? Yeah.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

That New Smyrna was the shark capital of the world. But what I see is, Kimmy, it's.

[Brian Green]

The short capital of the world. Or the shark capital of the world, because I think she said short. That could be true too. I'm not sure.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I mean, shark capital of the world.

[Brian Green]

New Smyrna, I think it is, actually. I think she might be right about that. Yeah, they come. They come in every year to eat and they go back up.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Maybe that's why there's a new culture happening.

[Brian Green]

Yes, there's a new culture happening. It's called avoid getting eaten by a shark. That's the water warms up and the sharks have to eat people to stay alive.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

And it's people. And I think it's pretty amazing.

[Gretchen Filia]

It's people. It's pretty amazing.

[Brian Green]

Her vernacular is like. Her vocabulary is like mine.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

The community, it makes all the difference. So you guys, you can see that the town has that and it makes a big difference.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That's what.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Not sure what you're saying, but that's.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That's.

[Brian Green]

That tracks.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Catch what?

[Brian Green]

I don't know. See, that's the thing is these are non sequiturs. What is she saying exactly? She's saying that, you know, there's a community.

[Gretchen Filia]

There's a real community.

[Brian Green]

And you can tell that when you go into the community.

[Local Surfer]

I mean, we've got so many local businesses here. And that's really.

[Brian Green]

Which town does not have local businesses? Which town? Tell me. Oh.

[Local Surfer]

Focus is to keep it local and for all those businesses that support one another through the local tourism that we get every year. You know, people on the beach being.

[Brian Green]

Able to drive their cars.

[Gretchen Filia]

That's why Matt and I have the.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Same people on the beach.

[Gretchen Filia]

People. And that's why Matt and I have decided to go to the local Applebee's.

[Brian Green]

And support the local community. It's $2 bubble Ritas 5 to 7.

[Local Surfer]

That's something that makes this place really stand out and also supports the local business.

[Brian Green]

I don't disagree. I've been to New Smyrna Beach. It's an amazing place. It really is. I just don't like if no one had ever been there, someone had never been there. I'm not sure these descriptions.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I've never been to new, smarter beach.

[Brian Green]

Well, Chrissy, you are missing out. There's a real sense of magic and community. There's. And the surfers are reshaping the surf landscape.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Tell me why it's called the shark capital of the world.

[Gretchen Filia]

Well, mainly because we have more sharks than Anybody else?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, take a wild guess.

[Brian Green]

Hard hitting, in depth questions coming at you.

[Local Surfer]

Well, I think there's like a perfect ecosystem here for sharks. There's a lot of fish being.

[Brian Green]

There's a lot of water, it's salty, which I guess the sharks are into. So throughout the year a lot of.

[Local Surfer]

Them, even more so now are going inside the inlet and mating. And then that's why we have a huge influx, multiplying.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

I know I saw the picture.

[Brian Green]

I know I saw a picture. Dead cut, dead cut. There's an edit right there.

[Gretchen Filia]

I know I saw a picture in Shark International Geographic magazine.

[Brian Green]

Oh, this is funny.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

You were surrounded by just tons of sharks.

[Local Surfer]

Yeah, I kind of call them the puppies. They're just like little pups, two, maybe three foot. And yeah, when we got that shot, we had no idea there was going to be like 50 of them coming at me.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

If I would have known that, if.

[Brian Green]

I would have known that, I probably would have headed in the other direction toward the land part of New Smyrna, which is beautiful too. I mean, they just showed an image and there was a lot of sharks around that guy.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

We didn't even know that. Yeah, a lot of pups were surrounding.

[Brian Green]

I mean, I don't mean to make, you know, listen, it's dangerous. Puppies have the sharpest teeth. Did you know that?

[Local Surfer]

On spring break, from all up north and they come down here, we'll obviously get in the water when it gets a little murky. That's when I think sharks mistake, you know, us for fish.

[Brian Green]

And that's why people lose a lot of limbs down here. But it's part of the sense of community we have.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It's magic.

[Brian Green]

It's magic.

[Local Surfer]

And you always keep in the back of your mind, but especially.

[Brian Green]

Which is.

[Local Surfer]

Almost every time we get out there.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Talking about surf culture. I mean, it's crazy how it's such a big piece of New Smyrna Beach. There's a whole other world of fantastic world renowned surfers that are doing amazing things and you know, again, you're a big surf influencer. So tell us about that culture.

[Brian Green]

So do you know which room I'm staying?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Surf influencer.

[Brian Green]

Oh my God.

[Local Surfer]

And of brothers and sisters that come together, you know, for one purpose and serve, take care of each other.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, they come together for a while. A bunch of us surfers get together to play P Knuckle every Thursday. A lot of us are missing limbs. But it's all good. It's all good. We got a new, we got a new pursuit we're reshaping the surfing culture by teaching them how to play pinochle.

[Local Surfer]

Stoked to be a part of it and blessed to be a part of it.

[Brian Green]

Oh, my God, this music, you gotta just tone it down. Sounds like a B side.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

So I'm out here with professional surfer Shay Lopez. So what's it like to live in New Smyrna?

[Brian Green]

Living in New Smyrna is a perfect blend. I have three daughters, and so I get to surf when the big storms come through. They get to enjoy waves like this pretty much all summer. And then there's a lot of. A lot of kids that, you know, have parents that don't surf, that I.

[Local Surfer]

Coach and I train, that, you know, have.

[Brian Green]

Have aspirations, being pro surf themselves. And then it's a lot of fun. It's really cool. So go to www.surfshane.comorg. florida, sign up for your camp.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Yeah, well, it's a great place to learn how to serve, so. And from a, you know, obviously a world player, so. Awesome.

[Brian Green]

World player.

[Gretchen Filia]

A world player.

[Brian Green]

I think she looked a female Joe Biden. Oh.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

It's a perfect blend of surf culture and community. There's something magic happening here in New Smyrna beach.

[Brian Green]

And that is the fifth time she has heard the word magic. Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And community. And community and surf.

[Brian Green]

So far, what I know about New Smyrna is there's surfers there.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, exactly.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Surf culture is alive and well, but what really sells this area are its people. The place is the experiences that I won't forget.

[Gretchen Filia]

I won't forget.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. You just documented your vacation.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

You just went on vacation, talked to.

[Brian Green]

A bunch of hot surfers. Yeah. And then said, I won't forget.

[Gretchen Filia]

Fine.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, God.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

I was here in the winter. It was absolutely beautiful. I didn't want to leave because, I mean, you've got the natural. Natural environment. I mean, it's just stunning. And that's what we're going to see today. We're going to go out into the ecosystem. I'm really excited about that. So how is the surf?

[Brian Green]

She's back to surfing. So how's the surfing?

[Gretchen Filia]

I'm gonna go into the ecosystem. What I really like about nature is nature.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, it's outside.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. But also the local mall is pretty great, too. Super fun. Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Local Surfer]

Samurai kind of surprised us again. I thought it would be better yesterday and actually ended up being a lot better today, so. Always a good time. The best way to wake up.

[Brian Green]

Wow. Well, thank God we're down there.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

My next stop is Jimmy, who Lives in Port Orange. I'm hanging out with some good friends here and I've heard it's food nirvana, so I'm very excited to try it out.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

This tacos, burger and beer.

[Brian Green]

Tacos, burgers and beer. Every other beach bar ever. Yeah, I've never been here. I'm sure it's lovely. I'm just sharing with you that every beach bar ever has the same menu. And it all tastes much better when you're looking at the ocean. You know, that's just my opinion, but whatever.

[Gretchen Filia]

Hi, guys. I'm Jose Sequentes and I'm one of.

[Local Surfer]

The owners of Jimmy Hilison.

[Brian Green]

What's up, Jose?

[Local Surfer]

Hi.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

How's it going?

[Brian Green]

How are you?

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

This place is amazing.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Hey, guys, will you sit down and talk to me? I'm doing this.

[Brian Green]

Hi, guys.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Funding this documentary. My husband about my vacation.

[Brian Green]

My dad is funding this documentary. We're about a hundred thousand dollars in, and so far we've just got surf ers.

[Audience Member]

Thank you.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

I can't wait to try all the food. I love visiting the places where the owners are involved in every step of the process. Wow, you have some amazing things on the menu. What do you recommend?

[Gretchen Filia]

Wow, you have some amazing things. Take. I'm sorry, take again. Take two.

[Brian Green]

Wow.

[Gretchen Filia]

You know, take three.

[Brian Green]

Wow.

[Gretchen Filia]

You, menu. Take four. Magic menu. I got that one messed up.

[Brian Green]

Let me try again.

[Gretchen Filia]

2.

[Brian Green]

Pass.

[Local Surfer]

Picado.

[Brian Green]

That's awesome.

[Local Surfer]

It's avocado grilled.

[Gretchen Filia]

We have tuna poke on it.

[Brian Green]

It's really good.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

I want to try that. But, hey, I want to go to the kitchen and learn how to make it. Can we do that?

[Gretchen Filia]

Sure, we can do that.

[Brian Green]

Yeah.

[Gretchen Filia]

I'm down. Okay.

[Brian Green]

Wow, this is awful. Wow, this is fascinatingly bad, actually. And you got to give people a break from that fucking music. That's crazy. Does that go on all four episodes? I don't know. I only made it for the first 10 minutes of the first one. For sure. All right, let's take a break and I don't know, maybe we'll review more. Maybe we'll just talk about something else altogether. We'll be back.

[Audience Member]

What's up, haters? Now, let's get down to business. If you've got something to say, say it to our faces. And by that I mean text us or call us at 212-4333, TCB. That's 212-433-3822. You can and should also find us on Instagram, hecommercial break and on TikTokcbpodcast. Unless you want to fight me? In which case, don't. And if you're just desperate to see our shining faces in person, keep your ears peeled for ticketing information about TCB Live. As always, don't forget that you can find everything you could possibly need to find on our beautiful website, tcbpodcast.com bye.

[Brian Green]

All right, but. So there's been some big drama around my house lately, and it's because of a television show. Go figure. It is the Wheel of Fortune. Wheel of Fortune. Fortune. The Wheel of Fortune. For those of you who may not know, pat Sajak, after 40 years of produce producing and hosting the Wheel of Fortune, has taken a step down. He's retired from his position and his last episode was a couple of weeks ago. Vanna White, who has been on the show almost every episode with Pat Sajak, was never paid anywhere near what pay at Sajak. Pat Sajak was paid.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Of course.

[Brian Green]

Of course. Right. And she doesn't do talking on the show. She almost never, I mean, at least in the older episode, she almost never talks in the show. She spins the letters. That's what she does. That's her job. But she's could arguably be probably. I, I actually say she might be just as much a part of the success, if not more part of the success.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Because there was a time in the 90s, like late 80s 90s when I was a kid, when it was all Vanna White. All the time, it's all anybody could talk about was Vanna White. Vanna White. Vanna White. She's obviously a stunningly beautiful woman and she has stayed with it, stuck with it for 40 years. So when Pat announced his retirement last year. I'm just getting you up to speed. When Pat announces retirement last year, the company who produces the Wheel of Fortune asked Vanna to stay on while they transitioned into the new host. So there's something familiar there. And Vanna said, I will stay on if you pay me more than Pat Sajak has made in the last couple of years. Good. And they said no. And then they went back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. And she finally signed another two year contract. So the assumption could be that. And while the details aren't specifically known, the assumption is that she got paid at least as much as Pat did for his seasons of Wheel of Fortune the last couple of years, if not more. Good for her. It's finally time that she cashes in on this, though. Vanna, I think, was the more popular of the two hosts, if you call them both hosts. She was. For many years, no one talked about Pat Sajak. They all talked about Vanna White, even though she didn't do any talking on the show. And so Vanna has now gone into production with the new host of Wheel of Fortune, who is Ryan Seacrest.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, that's right. I saw he was gonna join, of course.

[Brian Green]

Unbelievable.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

He's everywhere.

[Brian Green]

Unbelievable. This guy. This guy making the rest of us look like assholes. Here I am thinking I'm a Christ on the cross for doing five episodes, four episodes of this stupid show a week. And Ryan Seacrest has a radio show. He's doing American Idol. He was doing that television show with Kelly for a while.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

You know, Ryan and Kelly Kardashians.

[Brian Green]

He is the producer of the Kardashians. He's the one who brought it to television and said, this is a good idea. You got to do this. He's been producing that show for a long time. He owns Dick. Dick Clark Productions. So the couple times a year that they have it like the New Year's Eve rockin New Year's Eve. Is Ryan Seacrest product is a Ryan Seacrest or a Dick Clark production, which he owns now.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

He used to be the host of the what? Not America's Got Talent, but American Idol. American.

[Brian Green]

He still is the host of America. Oh, he is American Idol. Yeah. But watched it in so long, it is fucking wild.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

The amount of jobs this guy has. And if you remember, during the pandemic, there was like, there was an incident where he was broadcasting from home, like a lot of these shows were at the time. And he had kind of what people thought was a stroke on air because there was, like, weird body movements, facial movements, a little weird talking, like, slurred, slurry speech.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And he's a robot.

[Brian Green]

He's a robot.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

That's what it is.

[Jim]

That's Ryan Segrest. We've been quantum physicking him for a long time. He's the first of many. Chrissy Hoadley is also a robot keeping Brian in that studio so he doesn't cause additional trouble outside. Wa.

[Brian Green]

Bam.

[Jim]

Brian's keeper. It takes two. Astrid and Chrissy. Throw in a few children. Bam. Brian has no free time.

[Brian Green]

So Ryan Seacrest and Vanna White and the rest of the crew are in production with the new season that's not out yet, but the new season of Wheel of Fortune. They record like, three of these in a day, and then, you know, they do it for, like, four weeks, and then they basically have episodes for half the year or whatever. It is. There is now some conversation that's been going on from multiple sources. Let me read you this article. You ready for this? Vanna White struggles to work with Ryan Seacrest and may exit amid Wheel of Fortune rumors. With Cyan. With Ryan. With Cyan recrest. I'm having a stroke. Climb out there. With Ryan Seacrest set to replace Pat Sajak in the new season of Wheel of Fortune, some sources say there may be more changes coming to the long running game show. A recent report from the Daily Mail alleges that Vanna White may be looking to leave the show even earlier than expected, despite spending months fighting for a much deserved salary raise. A source told the Daily Mail that White is reportedly finding it very difficult to work to continue without Sajak and work with Ryan Seacrest. There's a part of her that wants to walk away sooner. It's just so difficult without Pat, says the source. Fanna feels that she has put her time in. She devoted her entire life to the show and she had an incredible run while making a small fortune. And now the show is heading in a new direction with Seacrest. White is allegedly having second thoughts about staying on and working with him. She knows the show needs to go in a different direction and appeal to a younger demographic. She wants the show to continue. This will require younger female hosts, someone who can be to Ryan what she was to Pat. So there's some conversation that she may be walking away from the show and that the show is like heading in a brand new direction and Ryan's gonna make it younger and hipper. First of all, Ryan ain't young. That's just a reality. Ryan grew up in Atlanta. He. He is in the general age like group of us. Right. And Ryan went to a local high school. As a matter of fact, his very first appearance on television was on Blind Date, if anybody remembers that show. Yeah, he was one of the people that was on Blind Date. And I don't remember what happened in the episode, but I remember seeing it. He was also a local disc jockey here for a while. Yeah, on a station called Star 94. But, you know, I. Do you watch Wheel of Fortune?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

No.

[Brian Green]

Okay. Have you ever watched Wheel of Fortune? Okay. We watch it here because the kids like it, right? They like to guess what the puzzles are. I did not have any interest in Wheel. I watch it as a kid like everybody did back in the 80s and 90s. Everybody watched Wheel of Fortune and then I largely forgot about it until I had children now. Yeah, actually my in laws like it too, you know. They don't speak very.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Once you're older, too.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Yeah. When you're young and when you're old. And I guess that's the point is they have to find somebody to kind of freshen up the show a little bit. But I'm gonna. I'm very curious to see how this all plays out with Ryan Seacrest, especially if Vanna White leaves and they're trying to make it younger and hipper. Is this going to be another shit on the floor moment by just trying to keep this thing alive and make it terrible, or will there be some sense?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. Because you kind of know what you get.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's now.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And it's simple and it's. You know, if I do have to watch it, I can. I'm entertained by it.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. And you know exactly what you're going to get. The wheel's going to spin, someone's going to make a silly joke, then you're going to try and guess what the. What the actual phrase is or whatever it is. There's some familiarity to it, and I like that it makes you feel, you know, interested. Like, makes you feel comforted, I guess.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I think so.

[Audience Member]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

And it's interesting because you get to guess on it. I mean, if you're into that kind of thing. It's not my favorite thing in the world to do, but okay, whatever. The kids like to watch it. You know, I try and guess the puzzles with them.

[Gretchen Filia (Narrator)]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

They usually get it right before I do, but that just goes to show how dumb I am and how smart they are. But then, you know, I wonder. I wonder what it's like to work with Ryan Seacrest. I wonder what it's like to work with someone that's so incredibly fucking busy. All.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

He's probably super type A, you know, that he has to have everything just how he wants it.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. And I. If. If you spend. Like if you. And I did the show for 40 years and then I said, okay, I'm gonna take a break. Like, I gotta. I gotta back off this. I can't. First of all, can't imagine doing the show for 40 years. But let's say that. Let's say that I did, and then you had to come in and hang out with a new.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah, it would be hard.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, it would be hard. And maybe, you know, maybe you would just feel a sense of. I wish it was the way that it was. And now that it's new, maybe they just need to take it and do something completely different with it. But I do also find it fascinating that she fought so hard for this raise that everybody agrees she deserved a long time ago, and now she wants to walk away from it.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Well, but you know, that's money can't buy happiness at the workplace.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, maybe. Maybe money isn't everything at this point.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Exactly.

[Brian Green]

Maybe.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah. She's like, I've. You know, hopefully she's made some good investments over the years and she's set for life. And I don't think that they have any kids.

[Brian Green]

Who? Vanna. Let me see here. Let's. Let's do. Let's ask Jim.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I watched a whole biography about her.

[Brian Green]

Oh, you did?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

A few years ago. Yeah, it's pretty interesting.

[Brian Green]

How much does Vanna White get paid? It's at Vanna Anna White Banana. Okay. Don't make her any more white than she already is. Vanana White. All right, let's see here what Gemini says.

[Jim]

Quantum computing.

[Brian Green]

Estimates of Vanna White salary on the Wheel of Fortune vary. Some reports suggest she earns around $3 million a year, while others place it closer to $10 million a year. In addition to Wheel of Fortune earnings, White also brings in income from other sources such as endorsements and her own brand of yarn. Oh, her total.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I didn't expect that.

[Brian Green]

I did not expect that either. Yarn, huh?

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Well, yeah, she must be into knitting or crochet.

[Brian Green]

She's definitely going for the older crowd. Maybe it is best that she steps away. That steps away. Her estimated net worth is $85 million.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

So that she's set. Yeah, maybe she's like, wait a minute. This is just. It's not even worth the extra money to have to deal with something like reinventing the Wheel.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, yeah. No, I.

[Gretchen Filia]

Okay.

[Brian Green]

Now that I know that she's comfortably secure with her fat stacks and her yarn business, I don't feel so discombobulated by the whole thing. Vanna White has two children. Son Nico Santo. Son, Nico Santo Pinto Maria. I don't know no. Son Nico and Giovanna with her ex husband, George Santo Pietro. So.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Okay. She does have kids.

[Brian Green]

That sounds like a sexy.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I know.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. I have a name like that. You better have the looks to back it up. But I guess when you're married to Vanna White, you probably did.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Right?

[Brian Green]

You know what I'm saying?

[Gretchen Filia]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

Well, hey, listen, I wish we'll be looking forward. I wish Vanna White in the future, whatever she does. And I hope Ryan Seacrest doesn't fucking fart all over the Wheel of Fortune name. Not because I particularly care. If it goes away tomorrow, it's not going to hurt my feelings. I'm not going to be upset by it. But just for the sake of all the seniors out there in their senior and your kids. Senior home and my kids. Yeah, well, you know, they now have the video game version.

[Gretchen Filia]

Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Which I used to have the board game version.

[Brian Green]

Oh, yeah, me too. Yeah, the big wheel. And you would spin it and go. Yeah.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And you had the little like green board. Yeah. Where you would do different letters.

[Brian Green]

Spin the letters. That's right. I remember you like flip open the little window. Yeah, that's right. And you had to put all the letters behind it. Yeah. Like someone would. Had to be the. And one had to be Vanna White.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I think it was a card that fitted.

[Brian Green]

Yeah, that's right. That's right. Wow. That's going back sometime. Okay. All right, all right.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Well, well, well.

[Brian Green]

You know, good for Vanna. I hope she got a cut of that Wheel of Fortune board game money.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I'm sure she did.

[Brian Green]

Yeah. Well, she's knitting now, so.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Yeah.

[Brian Green]

She's got that over 70 crowd locked in yarn. Yarn is probably a good business to be in, I would imagine.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Oh, yeah, no, and. And it's making a resurgence amongst young people learning to crochet.

[Brian Green]

I see it all the time on Instagram and TikTok. Young ladies and men knitting stuff together. That's a way to be creative. Why not teach me how to knit? I'll do it with those two big needles. Yeah, yeah. I'll probably hurt myself in some way, shape or form, knowing me. All right. 212-83212. 4333 TCB. That's 212-433-3822. Text us. Questions, comments, concerns, content, ideas. I am having a stroke.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

It's been a long week.

[Brian Green]

It has been a long six months. It's just been a long six months. Someday, someday. It's always darkest before the dawn. Chrissy. Tcbpodcast.com Right.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

All.

[Brian Green]

All the audio, all the video right there. One location. You can also get all of our guests information. We want to thank this week's guest, Mo Welsh very much for coming on the show. We loved her. We loved her. It was a great conversation with Mo Welsh. So go check out her new specially.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

Went home and watched the special.

[Brian Green]

It's good.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

And it's good. Yeah, it's interesting.

[Brian Green]

Yep. 800 pound gorilla has her new special called dad jokes. So go to the YouTube channel. 800 pound gorilla. It's free. Free. You don't even have to pay anything. To watch it. You just watch it. It's an hour. It's easy. Watch. And she's super funny. Also, please do us a favor. Follow us on Instagram at the commercial break. Please, please, please follow us. No more groveling, I promise. But one more time, please, please, please follow us on Instagram and YouTube.com the commercial break for all of our guest interviews and selected clips. Okay, Chrissy, that's all I can do for today.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I think that.

[Brian Green]

But I'll tell you that I love you.

[Kristen Joy Hoadley]

I love you.

[Brian Green]

I'll say best to you and best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time. Chrissy. And I always say, we do say, and we must say goodbye. I take a dick and keep on licking.