In this episode of the Contrarian podcast, host David Bernstein and co-host Cliff Smith engage Congressman Michael Baumgartner in a discussion about the political landscape of Eastern Washington, the ideological divides in America, and the challenges facing higher education and K-12 education. Congressman Baumgartner shares insights on the influence of foreign entities in American education, particularly focusing on Qatar, and emphasizes the importance of celebrating American values and the U.S.-Israel relationship. Guest Bio Congressman Michael Baumgartner represents Washington State’s 5th District in the U.S. House, bringing experience as a State Senator, diplomat, and Spokane County Treasurer. A WSU and Harvard graduate, he has served in Iraq and Afghanistan and is known for championing government efficiency and American values. He lives in Spokane with his wife, Eleanor, and their five children.