Podcast
The Crux of the Story
Hosted by Gary Sheffer and Mike Fernandez · EN
Hosted by one of the world's top communicators, currently SVP & Chief Communications Officer at Enbridge, the show tackles relevant and controversial topics in the field of communications that are shaping business, politics, and our lives.
Prominent guests from PR, journalism, business, and academia discuss how communications can inspire, persuade, deepen one’s understanding, or move an audience - or even a nation - to action.
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Episode 168 - When the Enterprise and Society Are in Constant Motion: How Leaders Can Communicate Change That Lasts
May 500:27:40Tap to summarizeStacey Jones, Honeywell’s Chief Communicator, joins The Crux of the Story to discuss CEO transitions, enterprise transformation, executive visibility, and the growing role of data and AI in communications. We explore the communications challenges facing C-suites and boards amid societal disruption, what separates successful CEO transitions from the ones that stumble, and how to build an executive narrative that remains credible over time. We also discuss Honeywell’s ongoing transformation and what it demands from communications internally and externally – at a moment when Honeywell has publicly described plans that would create three independent companies through the separation of its Automation and Aerospace businesses and the spin of its Advanced Materials business.
Transcribe →#167: Achievement Addiction, Loss, and the Gift of “Embracing Your Own Purgatory”
Apr 2200:53:43Tap to summarizeGeoff Curtis, founder of Marshall Curtis Communications and former EVP of Corporate Affairs and Chief Communications Officer at Horizon Therapeutics, joins The Crux of the Story to discuss his new book Embracing Your Own Purgatory – a candid, research-informed exploration of what happens when achievement becomes identity and how the “in‑between” spaces of life can become catalysts for growth. Drawing on nearly 30 years in healthcare communications and deeply personal experiences – including the loss of his father and the abrupt end of a defining corporate role – Geoff unpacks the traps of achievement addiction, the emotional and strategic challenges of career transitions, and the rituals that help leaders navigate uncertainty with clarity and humility. A powerful conversation for communicators, executives, and anyone confronting change, reinvention, or the uncomfortable work of redefining who they are.
Transcribe →#166 – What does it really take for PR and communications teams to adopt AI with intention?
Apr 800:53:00Tap to summarizeIn this episode we sit down with Samantha (Sam) Stark, Founder and Chief Strategist of Phyusion, a consultancy helping communications teams work with generative AI. With more than 25 years of agency experience including at Endeavor’s 160over90, Ketchum, Burson-Marsteller and Rubenstein PR. Sam has become one of the most influential voices shaping how communicators build and work with AI systems. She was recently named to PRWeek’s AI 25, recognizing leaders redefining the future of the profession. In this conversation, Sam breaks down the four stages of AI maturity – exploring, building, scaling, and leading – and explains where most PR teams sit today. She demystifies AI agents, describing how “smart interns” and “highly skilled junior team members” can reshape workflows, reduce bottlenecks, and elevate the craft of communication. We explore topics of human judgment, where AI can accelerate work, how AI can help manage and assess reputational risk, and what can be done to prepare teams for the cultural shifts ahead. Whether you’re a CCO, agency leader, strategist, or practitioner navigating the AI transition, this episode offers a clear, grounded framework for becoming a part of AI’s evolution in communications.
Transcribe →#165: Leading With Purpose in the Fight Against Cancer – Nisha Morris on Brand, Trust & Innovation at City of Hope
Mar 3100:32:59Tap to summarizeCity of Hope’s mission is bold: deliver the cures of tomorrow to the people who need them today. As one of the nation’s largest cancer research and treatment organizations, it sits at the forefront of scientific discovery, compassionate care, and national expansion. In this episode, Nisha Morris – Senior Vice President, Chief Marketing and Communications Officer – takes us inside the strategy behind one of the most respected names in cancer research. She shares how City of Hope communicates breakthrough science with humanity, builds trust in an era of health care skepticism, and supports patients through some of the most vulnerable moments of their lives. Nisha also reflects on lessons from her career across tech, health care, and even national security, including her year leading communications for the NSA. The conversation explores brand differentiation, reputation risk, AI and data science in cancer research, and what it means to lead communications for an organization whose work literally saves lives. A powerful episode for communicators, health care leaders, and anyone interested in how mission‑driven organizations tell stories that matter.
Transcribe →#164: Rethinking the Table – Colleen Killingsworth & Amy Thurlow on Women’s Leadership in PR
Mar 2400:40:07Tap to summarizeThe public relations is now a profession with more women than men – yet the number of women in leadership positions lag. In this episode, Colleen Killingsworth and Professor Amy Thurlow (Mount Saint Vincent University in Halifax, NS) unpack that paradox and share insights from their research behind their book Rethinking the Table: Women Leaders in Public Relations in Canada. Drawing on data, lived experience, and an intersectional lens, they explore some of the barriers: informal networks, credibility gaps, “emotional” labor, and the subtle norms that shape who advances and who gets overlooked. They also highlight the traits and strategies of women who are thriving – and what organizations, allies, and leaders can do to redesign the systems that determine access to power. The conversation spans Canada–U.S. comparisons, structural versus cultural challenges, and practical moves that can improve outcomes for women in PR leadership. A timely, candid, and essential discussion for communicators, executives, and anyone committed to building workplaces where leadership is recognized and rewarded.
Transcribe →#163: The Science of Habits – Amanda Rebar on What Really Drives Human Behavior
Mar 500:41:59Tap to summarizeBehavioral scientist Professor Amanda Rebar unpacks the hidden forces that shape what we do—and what we fail to do. As Director of the Motivation of Health Behaviors Lab at the University of South Carolina, Rebar is a leading voice on habits, automatic processes, and the unconscious evaluations that guide our health, our choices, and our daily routines. She explains why willpower is overrated, how emotions and instant “good/bad” reactions drive behavior, and explores with us the implications for policymakers and communicators and the use of nudges in public health and in messaging. The conversation explores digital interventions, AI, big data, physical activity, mental health, and the future of behavior change. A must-listen for leaders, communicators, and anyone curious about why we behave the way we do—and how to design environments that help us do better.
Transcribe →Episode 162: Joe Lockhart on Pinpointing and Connecting with Audiences – and Yes, Bad Bunny
Feb 2100:49:57Tap to summarizeWe sit down with Joe Lockhart — former White House Press Secretary to President Bill Clinton and one of the most influential communicators of the last three decades. From journalism to the West Wing, from Facebook to the NFL, and now as Managing Director of Rational 360, Joe has shaped some of the highest‑stakes narratives in American business, politics, and culture. We explore the evolving intersection of sports and politics, the rise of brand backlash, and how leaders should navigate today’s polarized environment. Joe also takes us inside Rational 360’s integrated campaign model and its newest innovation, Pinpoint Targeting — a data‑driven approach that’s redefining how organizations reach policymakers and influencers. If you’re interested in public affairs, strategic communication, better understanding audiences, and the future of advocacy in a digital world, this conversation delivers rare insight from someone who’s been at the center of it all.
Transcribe →Episode 161 – Navigating Public Trust – Andy Shain on his career shift from Journalism to PR in Higher Ed
Feb 1100:45:08Tap to summarizeIn this episode, we sit down with Andy Shain – long one of the most respected journalists in the Carolinas who now is a senior communicator at the University of South Carolina. After more than 30 years covering business, politics, higher education, and two presidential campaigns, Andy brings a rare dual perspective: the journalist who once held institutions accountable and the communicator now helping one institution navigate reputation in a rapidly changing landscape. Host Mike Fernandez explores Andy’s transition from the newsroom to higher education, the evolving pressures facing universities and the role of storytelling in shaping public trust. A thoughtful, timely conversation for anyone working at the intersection of communication, leadership, and public institutions.
Transcribe →Episode 160 – New Page-Harris Poll Study: As Expectations of Business Rise, Confidence Lags
Feb 400:46:10Tap to summarizeRob Jekielek, Managing Director of The Harris Poll, and Dr. Rochelle Ford, CEO of the Arthur W. Page Society, join Mike to discuss the 2026 Page‑Harris Poll Confidence in Business Index. Drawing on insights from more than 15,000 adults across 14 global markets, the conversation explores: - Why economic impact has become the number‑one expectation of business worldwide - Sharp generational differences, including the growing importance and concern of mental health for Gen Z - The widening gap between expectations and confidence, driven by a lack of visible action and clear explanations - How generative AI is reshaping trust — displacing traditional media and search as a gateway to credibility - Rising frustration in all institutions around perceived corruption, abuse of power, and lack of transparency This episode is a candid, data‑driven discussion about leadership, accountability, and what it truly takes to earn confidence in a fragmented, GenAI‑enabled world.
Transcribe →Episode 159: Faster. Messier. Tougher.: Bradley Akubuiro on Rewriting the Crisis Playbook
Jan 2600:47:19Tap to summarizePartner at Bully Pulpit International and former Boeing chief spokesperson Bradley Akubuiro previews his forthcoming book, Faster. Messier. Tougher.: Crisis Communication Strategies in an Era of Populism, AI, and Distrust (April 7, 2026). Bradley shares new field‑tested frameworks for crisis management: how to think about stakeholders, and when authenticity beats perfection. We also dig into the new dynamics of political pressure and brand backlash; whether A.I. can improve crisis readiness; and how to design simulations that build muscle memory. You’ll learn: The first five moves to make in the first 60 minutes of a crisis, when to narrowcast (not broadcast), and what “good” crisis communications looks like in 2026.
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