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The CTO Podcast
Hosted by Insights & Strategies for Chief Technology Officers Navigating the C-Suite while Balancing Technical Strategy, Team Management, & Innovation · EN
The CTO Podcast explores the worlds of Chief Technical officers as they manage the trials, tribulations, and triumphs of technologists in the C-suite. Hosted by Etienne de Bruin, founder of 7CTOs and author of CTO Excellence in 100 Days: Becoming the leader your company deserves.
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The Software Factory: Why Document-Driven Development Is Reshaping How CTOs Build
Dec 1901:02:43Tap to summarize“We’re not doing software development anymore. We’re engineering a factory.”That single line from Matt Ferguson captures a fundamental shift happening in technology leadership. As CTO of Roof Maxx—a nationwide roofing brand with 385 dealerships—Ferguson has spent the past year transforming how his team builds software. The methodology he’s championing isn’t new, but its implications in the age of AI are profound.It’s called Document-Driven Development. And if you’re still measuring your engineering team by lines of code, you may be optimizing for the wrong century.The Cost of Software Is CollapsingFerguson opens with a provocative claim: “The cost of software goes to zero.”He’s quick to acknowledge this is a euphemism—a deliberate exaggeration meant to spark conversation. But the directional truth is harder to dispute. When a team that once needed 100 engineers can now accomplish the same work with 10, or when the same team can produce 10x the output, the economics of software fundamentally change.“If they’re not taking into consideration the risk of their business when the cost of software goes to zero,” Ferguson says of potential vendor partners, “then they’re not gonna be a partner in two years because they’re gonna be out of business.”The data on AI-assisted coding tells a more nuanced story. A recent randomized controlled trial from METR found that experienced developers were actually 19% slower when using AI tools—despite believing they were 20% faster. Meanwhile, studies from GitHub and Microsoft show gains of 20-55%, with the strongest improvements among junior developers tackling well-defined tasks.The takeaway isn’t that AI doesn’t help. It’s that how you use it matters enormously. And that’s where Document-Driven Development enters the picture.What Is Document-Driven Development?At its core, Document-Driven Development flips the traditional software process. Instead of diving into code and documenting later (or never), teams invest heavily upfront in requirements, specifications, and architectural documentation—then use AI to generate code from those artifacts.“Our document-driven development is the concept of writing down what you want to do, what your problem is that you want to solve, in a descriptive enough way that the AI can interpret and plan the work, and through that plan can execute the code,” Ferguson explains.The approach has been championed by Ryan Vice, CEO of Vice Software, through his DocDD.ai methodology. GitHub recently validated the concept with their “Spec-Driven Development” toolkit, and AWS published their “AI-Driven Development Lifecycle” framework—both emphasizing documentation as the critical input to AI-assisted coding.Ferguson’s team has taken this further than most. His developers now spend roughly 90% of their time writing and refining requirements, and only 10% reviewing code.“Documents are your new code,” he says. “Treat them like code, put them in your GitHub repository as code, and iterate on them as your source code.”The Goal: One-Shot Code GenerationThe ambition behind Document-Driven Development is what Ferguson calls “one-shotting” the code—generating production-ready software on the first attempt.“We’re not here to pull the old slot machine and see what we get,” he explains. “Oh, all jacks. That’s wonderful. Oh, we didn’t win that one. Try again. Until AI gives us the right answer. That’s not what we’re after.”This stands in stark contrast to “vibe coding”—the practice of giving AI a rough prompt and iteratively debugging whatever emerges. Ferguson sees this as a recipe for unreproducible results and mounting technical debt.“If you’re not putting time into governance and you’re giving everybody free reign to do whatever they want,” he warns, “you’re gonna get different results. And when you try to build that piece of software six months from now, you might get a different result—which is not acceptable.”The key insight is that the “one shot” doesn’t mean one interaction with AI. It means extensive iteration on the documents—using AI to stress-test requirements, identify edge cases, and refine specifications—before any code is written.“We probably did a lot of interactions with AI, conversations with a highly intelligent, highly well-reasoning system,” Ferguson clarifies. “Just so that we’re getting to that point where we think a one shot is possible.”Systems Thinking: The Intellectual FoundationUnderneath Ferguson’s methodology lies a deeper framework: systems thinking, particularly as articulated by Donella Meadows in her seminal work “Thinking in Systems: A Primer.”Meadows identified 12 leverage points for intervening in complex systems, ranked from least to most powerful. At the bottom are parameters and numbers—the metrics most organizations obsess over. At the top are paradigm shifts—fundamental changes in how we think about a problem.“I tell people, the first thing you should do is read the last chapter about the 12 leverage points,” Ferguson says. “Understand that your leverage point needs to start around the middle—the six or the seven—where we’re changing paradigms, where we’re actually changing how these systems impact each other.”This systems lens explains why Ferguson believes SDLC transformation is more valuable than any individual technology choice.“When I come into a company, I’m constantly thinking about the systems I’m observing,” he says. “That’s where I find I can have the greatest impact. I want to operate to make sure we’re making the right operational decisions and process decisions.”The Factory MetaphorPerhaps Ferguson’s most useful reframe is viewing software development as factory engineering rather than craft production.“We’re creating a software factory. The engine in our factory is AI. You have inputs to the system. You have feedback loops to the inputs. You can either impact the feedback loops and get reoccurring results that are virtuous, or you can just fix the toys at the end of the line and never fix the feedback loop.”In this model, software engineers become process engineers. Their job isn’t primarily to write code—it’s to design, optimize, and govern the system that produces code.“Software engineers are the process engineers of a factory,” Ferguson says. “I understand how this factory works. I understand the inputs. I understand the outputs. I understand how I can impact the inputs. If you’re gonna build a factory, you better have a systems thinking approach.”This has significant implications for hiring and team development. Ferguson is actively retraining his developers to think more like product managers—to write excellent requirements, to understand stakeholder needs, to communicate abstractions clearly.“Writing software’s not the hard part anymore,” he observes. “The value is writing great requirements, great user stories, the use cases, and making sure you’re writing those initial documents correctly.”Implications for SaaS SelectionFerguson applies the same thinking to vendor relationships. His first question to potential partners: “How are you writing software?”“If they’re not using document-driven development and can’t describe that process, they go pretty far down the list,” he says.His reasoning is economic. As AI capabilities accelerate, vendors with undisciplined development processes will struggle to compete against AI-native startups with fraction-sized teams and radically lower cost structures.“A startup is gonna run circles around you,” Ferguson warns established players. “And all it is, is marketing at that point. And it’s a price point.”The implication for CTOs evaluating SaaS purchases: due diligence on a vendor’s development methodology may be as important as feature comparisons. Partners who can’t articulate how they’re adapting to AI-assisted development may face existential pressure in the coming years.Beyond Software: Enterprise-Wide AIFerguson is careful to note that Document-Driven Development is only part of a broader transformation. For CTOs, the mandate extends across the entire organization.“You can’t just be improving the software side of the shop,” he says. “What are you doing about ordering and marketing and all these other processes?”His framework for enterprise AI adoption centers on business process mapping—identifying where humans currently insert themselves to make processes work, then asking whether those decision points could be automated.“Where’s the human inserting themselves to make this process work? Why does that need grease from a human all the time? Do we have the right inputs that an AI could make the same decision?”The metric Ferguson uses to evaluate progress: how many agents is each team member managing?“The measurement of the people in your company needs to be, how many agents am I managing? I shouldn’t be doing work. I should be managing my agents that are doing my work for me.”Getting Started: A Practical PathFor CTOs looking to adopt these approaches, Ferguson offers a straightforward sequence:First, solve the product-requirements interface. Wherever product specifications are authored in your organization, that’s your entry point. Ensure requirements are structured for AI consumption, with clear acceptance criteria and well-defined boundaries.Second, prototype and enforce a process. Document-driven development only works if it’s actually used. Model the approach yourself, build governance around it, and resist the temptation to let individual developers freelance.“Everybody can’t be do...
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LIQUID – How CTOs Harness Complexity to Unlock Flow
Aug 2001:35:13Tap to summarizeIn this conversation, Nishant interviews Kathy Keating, Etienne de Bruin, and Scott Graves, co-authors of LIQUID: How CEOs and CTOs Unlock Flow and Momentum in Complex Systems. They discuss how the idea for the book was born, the challenges of co-authoring as three CTOs, and how they shaped the narrative through the fictional characters Alice (CEO) and Theo (CTO). The authors share how their distinct voices and strengths fused together: Scott’s deep knowledge of complex adaptive systems, Kathy’s operational lens, and Etienne’s ability to simplify and communicate concepts. Together, they created a framework that blends philosophy, practice, and story.The conversation highlights the importance of seeing organizations as complex adaptive systems and the risks of companies becoming either “boiling” (chaotic) or “frozen” (rigid). The authors emphasize that true leadership comes from navigating toward liquidity, the state where flow and adaptability are preserved. They reflect on the critical role of CEO-CTO partnership, the necessity of boundaries, and the difficulty of shifting culture once it stagnates. They also explore why the timing of LIQUID is especially relevant today. As technology accelerates, craft alone is not enough. Leaders must become sense-makers and problem-solvers at the systems level.About the BookLIQUID takes readers inside the hidden systems that drive every organization. Using the fictional journey of Alice, a founder-CEO, and Theo, her engineer-turned-CTO, the book shows how teams often slide into boiling chaos or frozen rigidity without realizing it. By illustrating the patterns of complexity through story, the authors make abstract concepts tangible and immediately useful.At its core, LIQUID argues that the most important role of the CTO is not simply delivering technology but stewarding the entire system so that people and processes remain in flow. The book introduces accessible frameworks, practical language, and vivid scenarios that help leaders spot when their organizations are shifting out of balance and how to guide them back to a liquid state.Whether you are a CEO, CTO, or executive navigating rapid change, LIQUID is a blueprint for unlocking resilience, adaptability, and momentum in your company. It bridges systems thinking with real-world leadership and equips you to see and influence the invisible dynamics that make or break technology organizations.Time Stamps00:00: Introduction: Why LIQUID matters now02:00: Behind the authors: creativity, systems, and personal lenses07:00: Discovering each other’s strengths during the writing process13:00: Pivoting the book: from frameworks to storytelling17:00: The origin story: from CTO failures to systemic insights23:00: Defining the role of the CTO in complex systems28:00: Why now: AI, accelerated change, and systems thinking33:00: The 7CTOs connection and levels of complexity40:00: Why Alice and Theo: storytelling as a teaching tool46:00: Subjective perspectives in complex systems52:00: The hidden world of complexity and CTO boundaries59:00: CEOs and CTOs as co-sensemakers1:04:00: Simple versus complex language in leadership communication1:12:00: Culture as the hardest complexity to shift1:20:00: Coaching example: boiling versus frozen organizations1:28:00: The CEO’s challenge: orchestrating boundaries1:31:00: Partnership, empathy, and trust at the executive level1:33:00: If LIQUID had a soundtrackLIQUID: LinkedIn / WebsiteContact Nishant: LinkedInContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Kathy: Website /LinkedInContact Scott: Website / LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com
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Steven Zgaljic, Jahnel Group, CTO: Harnessing AI for Health Insights
Apr 1, 202500:18:44Tap to summarizeRSVP to the 13th CTO Colloquium on 4/17/25In this episode, Steven Zgaljic, CTO of Jahnel Group, joins host Etienne de Bruin to share a personal story about his daughter’s health challenges. Faced with the need to meticulously track symptoms and daily activities, Steven leveraged his technical expertise to create a custom AI-powered solution using tools like N8N and Superbase. The conversation highlights how AI can transform complex problems into actionable insights, even in personal contexts.Steven discusses the challenges of using traditional methods like pen and paper for symptom tracking, leading him to build an automated workflow integrated with Slack. By applying AI for data validation and pattern recognition, he gains real-time insights into potential triggers and patterns in his daughter's symptoms. Beyond his personal use case, Steven reflects on the broader applications of AI in problem-solving and the necessity of human oversight in AI-driven systems.This conversation explores the intersection of personal challenges, technological innovation, and the potential of AI to improve lives.Timestamps00:00 Introduction and Overview 01:00 Steven Zgaljic's Background and Family Story 03:00 Challenges with Tracking Medical Symptoms for His Daughter 05:00 Using Slack for Family Communication 07:00 Applying AI to Track and Analyze Symptoms 09:00 Exploring N8N, Superbase, and AI for Automation 11:00 Creating Validation Models for AI Accuracy 13:00 Building a Custom AI System for Health Tracking 15:00 AI Insights and Pattern Recognition in Health Data 17:00 Future Plans for AI Health Analysis 18:00 Reflections on AI in Problem SolvingWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Steven: Website /LinkedInGreat news! The CTO Podcast has been featured on Feedspot's list of Top CTO Podcasts. Huge thanks to our amazing guests and listeners for being part of these conversations. Check out the full list here: Feedspot’s Top CTO Podcasts. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com
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Zayna Rose, Image Strategist & Communications Consultant: Elevating Your Image as a Tech Leader
Jan 8, 202500:51:01Tap to summarizeIn this episode of the CTO Podcast, host Etienne speaks with image strategist Zayna Rose about the importance of personal branding and leadership presence for technology leaders. They discuss how visual identity, color psychology, and intentional self-expression can enhance a leader's credibility and connection with others. Zayna emphasizes the need for tech leaders to be mindful of their appearance and how it impacts their professional image, while also encouraging them to embrace their authentic selves. The conversation highlights practical tips for improving one's image and the significance of digital presence in today's world.Time Stamps00:00 Introduction to the CTO Podcast and Guest Zaina Rose03:06 Understanding Leadership Presence05:29 The Importance of Visual Identity09:55 Casual Power Looks for Tech Leaders12:18 Strategic Wardrobe Levels16:30 Choosing Colors That Work for You21:17 Tailored vs. Standard Looks23:38 Experimenting with Self-Expression30:14 Leveraging Digital Assets for First Impressions34:33 Practical Steps for Improving Personal Branding38:42 Enhancing Stage Presence and Communication42:45 Closing Thoughts and Call to ActionWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Zayna: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com
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Lena Skliarova-Mordvinova, Good Face Project CTO and Co-Founder: Revolutionizing Personal Care with AI and Resilience in Challenging Times
Nov 19, 202401:08:11Tap to summarizeIn this episode of the CTO Podcast, host Etienne de Bruin speaks with Lena Skliarova-Mordvinova, CTO and Co-Founder of the Good Face Project. They discuss the origins of the Good Face Project, which aims to educate consumers about the ingredients in personal care products and promote safer alternatives. The conversation delves into the role of generative AI in analyzing ingredient safety, the challenges of navigating the venture capital landscape, and the importance of parenting in the digital age. Lena shares her insights on balancing technology and family life, as well as cultural perspectives on parenting from her experiences in Ukraine. In this conversation, Lena shares her experiences navigating the challenges of leading a tech team in Ukraine during the ongoing war, highlighting the resilience and determination of her team. She discusses the importance of maintaining a sense of normalcy and connection amidst chaos, the innovative tech stack they are using in AI, and the complexities of regulatory environments in the personal care industry. Additionally, she reflects on her passion for space research and the evolution of data mining technologies.Time Stamps00:00 Introduction to the CTO Podcast and Guest03:01 The Good Face Project: Origins and Mission06:01 Understanding Ingredients: The Science Behind Personal Care08:53 Generative AI in Personal Care: Innovations and Challenges12:12 Venture Capital Landscape: Navigating the Hype15:07 Parenting in the Digital Age: Balancing Technology and Family21:04 Reflections on Parenting: Learning and Growing Together26:56 Cultural Perspectives on Parenting: A Global View34:03 The Power of Connection in Uncertain Times39:14 Resilience Amidst Chaos: The Ukrainian Experience45:09 Innovations in AI: Tech Stack and Models53:39 Navigating Regulations in Personal Care and Supplements01:02:22 Passion for Space: A Journey Through ResearchWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Lena: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com
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Dr. Aadeel Akhtar, PSYONIC's Visionary: Transforming Lives Through Advanced Bionic Prosthetics and Entrepreneurial Innovation
Oct 29, 202401:01:55Tap to summarizeIn this episode of The CTO Podcast, Dr. Aadeel Akhtar CEO and founder of PSYONIC, discusses the evolution of bionic hands and the advancements in robotics and AI that have made them possible. He shares his personal journey and motivation for creating prosthetics that can change lives, as well as the entrepreneurial challenges faced in bringing this technology to market. The conversation explores the design considerations of bionic hands, the integration of AI, and the future of prosthetics. In this conversation, Aadeel discusses the journey of developing innovative bionic hands through customer discovery, design constraints, and a unique funding approach. He emphasizes the importance of durability and functionality in prosthetics, the role of human users in robotics, and the challenges of navigating crowdfunding and institutional investment. The conversation also touches on the competitive landscape in prosthetic technology and the growth dynamics of his company.Time Stamps00:00 Introduction PSYONIC and bionic hands02:53 The Evolution of Robotics and Human-like Design05:46 The Journey of Creating the Ability Hand09:07 Advancements in Robotics and AI Integration12:00 Personal Story and Motivation Behind PSYONIC15:08 The Future of Bionic Limbs and Technology17:51 Entrepreneurial Challenges in Bionic Technology31:26 Customer Discovery and Design Constraints34:46 Innovative Approaches to Bionic Hands37:52 The Role of Human Users in Robotics40:40 Funding Journey and Shark Tank Experience52:06 Navigating Crowdfunding and Institutional Investment56:15 Competitive Landscape in Prosthetic Technology59:00 Company Structure and Growth DynamicsWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Dr. Aadeel Akhtar: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com
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Decoding AI: Expert Panel Insights for CTOs
Oct 8, 202401:14:52Tap to summarizeIn this episode of The CTO Podcast, Etienne engages with AI experts, Ksenia Palke (Director AI: Airspace), Lena Skliarova-Mordvinova (Co-Founder & CTO: Good Face Project) and Sharon Zhang (Co-Founder & CTO: Personal AI) to discuss the current state and future of AI in technology organizations. The conversation covers the different AI stacks being used, the evolution of AI technologies, the societal impact of AI, and the challenges faced by CTOs in implementing AI solutions. The guests share their personal journeys in AI, highlight the importance of human oversight, and provide valuable advice for CTOs looking to leverage AI effectively in their organizations.Time Stamps00:00 - Introduction to AI in Production02:58 - AI Stacks and Tools in Use05:50 - AI’s Evolution and Its Impact11:50 - The Rise of Large Language Models (LLMs)17:59 - Challenges in AI Development24:09 - AI’s Philosophical and Ethical Implications30:13 - Building AI for Business: Practical Advice35:38 - Final Thoughts on AI Development40:20 - The Future of AGI and Its Potential Dangers47:04 - Impact of AI on Language and Communication53:46 - The Role of AI in Education and Child Development58:21 - AI in the Workplace: Communication and Productivity1:04:54 - Human Evolution in the Age of AIWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Lena: Website /LinkedInContact Ksenia: Website /LinkedInContact Sharon: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com
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Ryan Kari, CTO of MagCanica: Revolutionizing Motorsports with Torque Sensors and the Art of CTO Leadership
Aug 27, 202400:48:01Tap to summarizeIn this episode of The CTO Podcast, Etienne interviews Ryan Kari, CTO of MagCanica, a company in the torque sensor space. They discuss the role of torque sensors in Formula One racing and other motorsports, as well as their use in hybrid engines. They also touch on the challenges of delegating invention in a hardware company and the importance of communication between software and hardware teams. Ryan also shares his approach to CTOing the organization, which involves exploring new ideas and shining a light on different areas of the business.00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message00:40 Interview with Ryan Kari, CTO of MagCanica03:06 The Role of Torque Sensors in Motorsports08:42 Sending Torque and Other Data Digitally12:48 Balance of Performance in Racing18:01 Formula One as a Technology Testing Ground29:08 CTOing the Organization and Delegating Invention39:21 Exploring New Ideas and Using AI Tools46:28 Conclusion and Closing RemarksWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Ryan: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com
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Kathy Keating, Fractional CTO | Interim CTO | Executive Coach | CTO Levels™: Mastering Growth; Operational Excellence and Leadership Insights
Aug 6, 202401:00:38Tap to summarizeIn this conversation, Etienne interviews Kathy Keating, a fractional CTO and executive coach. They discuss topics such as finding joy in work, dealing with disagreement and rejection, and the importance of operationalizing processes in growing companies. Kathy emphasizes the need for alignment on the problems worth solving and the value of creating a consistent operational cadence. They also touch on the importance of being a systems thinker and the benefits of writing and documenting ideas and processes. Etienne and Kathy discuss the importance of documentation, decision-making, and operationalizing processes in the role of a CTO. They emphasize the need for clear communication, alignment, and trust within an organization. They also highlight the value of incremental changes and continuous improvement in addressing complex problems. The conversation touches on the relevance of CTO Levels in understanding common challenges faced by CTOs at different levels of experience. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the importance of effective leadership and the role of processes in driving growth and success.Time Stamps00:00 - Introduction and Finding Joy in Work06:27 - Dealing with Disagreement and Rejection09:15 - Operationalizing Processes for Growing Companies13:00 - The Importance of Alignment and Systems Thinking19:10 - The Benefits of Writing and Documenting29:56 - Introduction and the Importance of Documentation35:37 - Operationalizing Processes for Business Growth42:51 - The Value of Incremental Changes and Continuous Improvement50:58 - Understanding Common Challenges with CTO Levels53:20 - Effective Leadership: Communication, Alignment, and Decision-MakingWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Kathy: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com
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Aliza Carpio, Director of Product Management Data Platform at JLL Technologies: The Code of Collaboration and Navigating Open Source
Jul 9, 202401:00:36Tap to summarizeAliza Carpio (Director of Product Management Data Platform at JLL Technologies) discusses with Etienne open source communities, codes of conduct, and the relationship between product management and engineering. She emphasizes the importance of open source as a team sport and the benefits of collaboration and problem-solving in the open source community.Aliza also highlights the value of open source for businesses, including cost savings and access to tried and true solutions. She emphasizes the need for clear communication and inclusive documentation in open source projects, as well as the importance of psychological safety in remote work environments. In this conversation, Aliza and Etienne discuss the importance of communication and collaboration between product managers and engineers as well as emphasizing the need for product managers to understand the 'why' behind their products and for engineers to understand the customer problem.They also highlight the value of experimentation and failure in the product development process. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the potential impact of language models like ChatGPT on communication and trust.Time Stamps00:00 - Introduction and Overview00:40 - Aliza’s Background and Role in Product Management06:47 - The Value of Open Source for Businesses13:31 - Creating Safety and Inclusivity in Open Source Communities25:11 - The Importance of Reflection and Intentional Connection29:38 - Invitation to Join 7CTOs Growth Program31:20 - The Importance of Understanding the 'Why' in Product Management36:08 - The Role of Engineers in Understanding the Customer Problem39:46 - The Value of Experimentation and Failure in Product Development44:32 - Creating a Culture of Experimentation and Discovery51:53 - The Potential Impact of Language Models on Communication and Trust58:55 - Effective Communication and Collaboration in Product DevelopmentWe have 200+ CTOs in peer groups: Quick Testimonials VideoContact Etienne: Website / YouTube / LinkedIn / X / Instagram / The CTO Podcast WebsiteContact Aliza: Website /LinkedIn This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.ctopod.com
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