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"Nothing captures human interest more than human tragedy." - Dan Brown

Host of "The Relief Podcast", author of How to Get Your Life Back, and founder of Real Estate Relief Demetri Stakias is joining us once again for a second round of "Tales of Giving". The conversation got started before anyone hit record, but as all of our loyal listeners know, we're always interested in the space between the notes. After hitting record, Demetri and Jay are getting into the ever-so-light-hearted topic of the redemption of demon influenced individuals and how no one is ever beyond redemption, the challenges being faced in uncertain times, how loss is a source of pain but can also be a source of opportunity, and the desire to improve engagement and taking things to the next level. This conversation doesn't end where it begins, so we hope you're ready to take the journey with us on this episode of The Culture Matters Podcast.