Talking Dateline: Out of the Darkness

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Dateline NBC – "Talking Dateline: Out of the Darkness"

Episode Date: July 8, 2026
Hosts: Andrea Canning and Josh Mankiewicz
Focus: Behind-the-scenes discussion and analysis of Josh Mankiewicz’s episode “Out of the Darkness,” about the murder of Texas fire captain Bob Poynter, with a concluding lighthearted “Canadian or American?” accent challenge.

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This episode dives into the true-crime case of Bob Poynter’s murder in Royce City, Texas, exploring the tangled web of deceit, infidelity, and manipulation involving his wife Chacey Poynter and her lover Michael Garza. Andrea Canning and Josh Mankiewicz discuss storytelling choices, investigative twists, and the emotional aftermath, before ending with a playful game testing Andrea’s ability to identify Canadian versus American accents.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Case Overview & Initial Impressions

[01:45]

• Josh recaps the case (2016): Chacey Poynter, age 29, calls her older husband Bob (fire captain) because her Jeep is stuck on a muddy road; Bob is subsequently shot and killed.
• Body cam footage and interviews: The episode is built mostly around real-time police and first responder recordings, showing Chacey’s shifting stories.
• Chacey’s stories unravel: Her account changes repeatedly, from seeing a shadowy figure to eventually implicating her lover.

Quote:
"It is a classic case of not just spousal murder, but of a murderer kind of not thinking about the story that they were going to tell until the absolute minute they were telling it."
—Josh Mankiewicz [02:52]

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2. Chacey Poynter: Deception and Performance

[03:35]

• Andrea confesses being at first “had” by Chacey’s terrified 911 call, describing the classic “woman running in the woods” scenario but soon becoming skeptical.
• They note Chacey’s increasingly theatrical behavior and erratic narrative.

Quote:
"At first, she kind of had me, but the more it went on, the more I started to say, this girl needs a Razzie."
—Andrea Canning [04:24]

• Josh: The show didn’t need an interview with Chacey; her implausible statements and composure “buried herself.”

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3. Investigative Approach & Evidence

[05:11]

• Attention to detail: Investigators spot key inconsistencies—blood spatter directions, physical proximity at the shooting.
• Police challenge her story directly: "You're full of crap."
• Discussion of Chacey’s failure to ask for a lawyer, instead volunteering damaging information about her failed marriage.

Quote:
"When I married him, I was young and stupid. And I think an argument could be made that nothing had changed..."
—Josh Mankiewicz [06:02]

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4. Infidelity, Motive, and the “Classic” Plot

[06:23]

• Chacey’s affairs: Bob installed a surveillance camera not for home security, but to catch her other lovers on camera.
• Callousness: Andrea recounts Chacey’s remark (paraphrased) about wishing Bob would "run out of air in a fire."
• Prosecutorial narrative: Alleged the murder was about life insurance money, though there were conflicting “mythologies”—Chacey had claimed Bob was abusive (unsupported by evidence).

Quote:
"The reason that works is that it’s true so much of the time—I mean, women very rarely commit homicide. Right. They almost always find somebody else to do it for them."
—Josh Mankiewicz [08:14]

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5. Parallels with Other Cases

[08:49]

• Andrea draws comparison to a similar Kentucky murder-for-hire case (Army Sgt. Vincent Goslin Jr.), highlighting a common “lure and ambush” methodology.

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6. Light Moments: Orange Jumpsuits & Pop Culture

[10:19]

• Running jokes: Frequent references to the color orange (jumpsuits, “Orange is the New Black”), and the killer’s odd remark about “rocking” an orange jumpsuit.
• Michael Garza’s alibi: Claimed he was "milking a cow" at the time of the murder.

Quote:
"His alibi is I was milking a cow... Like, you want to have your cell phone at some different location at that moment..."
—Josh Mankiewicz [13:23]

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7. Human Cost: Interview with Bob’s Mother

[14:36] & [15:03]

• Extra clip with Candy, Bob’s mother: She describes Bob as a loving, doting father who “adored” his daughter Addison and was active in the lives of all his children.
• Ripple effect: Josh notes the broader tragedy: “The ripple effect of murder.”

Quote:
"He was just like a gentle soul. He was like a gentle giant..."
—Candy, Bob’s mother [15:35]

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8. Life Insurance as Motive—and Jury’s Take

[16:16]

• Life insurance plot: Reflecting on how often murder victims’ policies are increased before their deaths.
• Anecdote: Josh recalls a notorious “Jeopardy champion” poisoning case where the wife changed her policy secretly.
• Surprise jury verdict: The jury didn't believe Chacey killed Bob for money, despite insurance policies worth $500,000-$1,000,000.

Quote:
"To suggest that this was just for money—like, I never believed that this was about her and Michael Garza being together... I think she wanted to be free."
—Josh Mankiewicz [18:43]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "This person's a liar. And that's exactly where prosecutors came down." —Josh [04:44]
• “She starts stepping out on him. Not with just the guy who ended up killing him, but a bunch of other guys, too.” —Josh [06:23]
• “We don't catch the smart ones... Sometimes they do catch the smart ones, but like, a lot of times who they catch are literally people who, like Chasey, tell like three different stories in the first three hours.” —Josh [13:23]
• “He was just like a gentle soul. He was like a gentle giant.” —Candy [15:35]
• “The ripple effect of murder.” —Josh [16:16]
• “If you're going to do that, you need to say something.” —Andrea on changing insurance beneficiaries [17:40]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Case summary and Chacey’s story falls apart: [01:45]–[05:11]
• Infidelity and the plot deepens: [06:23]–[08:49]
• Pop culture/jumpsuit jokes and Michael’s implausible alibi: [10:19]–[13:23]
• Emotional interview with Bob’s mother, Candy: [14:50]–[16:16]
• Insurance schemes & murder motives: [16:47]–[19:35]

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Bonus Segment: “Canadian or American?” Accent Challenge

[21:06]–[27:44]

• Andrea’s “Canadian radar” is put to the test with voice clips saying the same sentence; Josh moderates.
• Andrea scores 4/6, tripped up by an American with a strong Minnesota accent—humorously likened to a “Canadian red herring.”
• Closing with friendly teasing, a Keith Morrison birthday shout-out, and thanks to the Dateline Ambassadors who provided voice samples.

Quote:
"You looked cool and elegant, swatting away the bees... whereas I would have looked like a character in a cartoon, leaving an outline of their body as they go through a wall." —Josh [10:05]

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Takeaways

• The episode dissects both the mechanics of the crime and the psychological fabric—emphasizing how real-time recording and suspect inconsistency can be damning.
• Personal interviews (especially with victims’ families) provide critical emotional weight and context.
• The show balances sober true-crime analysis with banter and lighthearted detours, illustrating the humane—and sometimes absurd—reality around such cases.
• Even after years on the beat, simple motives like money or “wanting to be free” can still surprise, as can jury decisions.

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This summary provides a comprehensive look at the themes, details, and unique moments from “Talking Dateline: Out of the Darkness” useful for listeners new and old.

Transcript

[Andrea Canning]

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Hi, everyone. I'm Andrea Canning and we are talking dateline. Our correspondent on this one is Josh Mankiewicz, and this is for his episode called out of the Darkness.

Hello.

Let's talk dateline. Josh, hey. How are you?

[Josh Mankiewicz]

I'm good. I'm ready.

[Andrea Canning]

One housekeeping item. If you haven't seen it, you can watch the episode of Peacock or listen to it in the Dateline podcast feed and then come right back here. Also, we will have an extra clip from Josh's interview with the victim, Bob Poynter's mother. And then, Josh, you have a special talking DATELINE challenge for me. I'm excited about this.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Yes, I do. It's something we've discussed previously, although you've certainly forgotten about it. I actually forgot about it, too, but it's gonna be fun.

[Andrea Canning]

Okay, I'm ready. Before we dive into this episode and I have a lot of thoughts, Josh, give us a very quick overview of what happened.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Well, this was in 2016 in Royce City, Texas, sort of classic Texas small town. A young woman named Chasey Pointer married to a fire captain who was considerably older. She was 29, I think he was like 46, 47, something like that. She calls her husband because her jeep has gotten stuck on this muddy road. So he comes out there and he gets shot. And from the beginning, we on dateline, the viewers see this story unfold almost entirely via first responder and police body cams. And she's unspooling this story of what happened. And sort of from the beginning, she can't get her own story straight. I mean, first she says he doesn't know what happened. Then she saw a shadow. She saw A shadowy figure. Then it was a man. She didn't know who it was. Then later, she does know who it is. It's this guy that she was having an affair with. I mean, it is a classic case of not just spousal murder, but of a murderer kind of not thinking about the story that they were going to tell until the absolute minute they were telling it. And so you are left watching this and just kind of shaking your head. She was convicted, and, you know, it's a terrible tragedy. And again, there's a thing called divorce.

[Andrea Canning]

Yes, yes. That we mention often on this program. So, Josh, I have to say, she had me at first, Chacey. Because the way this show opens is very terrifying. You know, the. The out of breath, the 9:1 call, the running. I mean, it's like how every Lifetime movie starts out. There's a woman running through the woods. And then when the call dropped out, I thought Chacey was done. I thought somebody was after her. Then I was so surprised to see that Chacey was alive. And she was then talking to investigators eventually. And that's where her behavior really comes in. And the breathing. And I'm like, yeah, the breathing. And then it would, like. And then it would, like, stop, and then it would start again. And at first, she kind of had me, but the more it went on, the more I started to say, this girl needs a razzie.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Yeah. That wonderful top is courtesy of Jessica De Vera, who's a sensational producer here at the show.

[Andrea Canning]

She's amazing.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

And, you know, Jessica and I did this story, and, like, we didn't have a couple of the things that people usually have. Like, we certainly didn't have an interview with her.

[Andrea Canning]

You almost didn't need it, though, Josh, because we had such a sense of her telling.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

We had her telling this crazy story and burying herself. Right. We had her telling her own story, which, you know, at the beginning sounds crazy and, like, the worst thing has happened to her. And then the more she tells it, the crazier it sounds. The crazier she sounds, the more dishonest she sounds. And then you just think, okay, well, I mean, this person's a liar. And that's exactly where prosecutors came down.

[Andrea Canning]

You know, what I love about investigators are the little things that they pick up on that, you know, me, at least, I don't know about you, but I'm not a, you know, a trained investigator. So when they. When they say to her, you know, they. They say to her that the blood should have dripped down.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Right.

[Andrea Canning]

And then also that they could tell that, you know, she was standing too close. Like, she was standing close to Bob when the shot was fired. But she said that she wasn't. And so they said. They told her, quote, you're full of crap.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Yeah, well, I mean, you know, by then she'd already told these multiple stories, right?

[Andrea Canning]

And the whole thing was, you know, why didn't this woman ask for a lawyer at some point? Why didn't she keep her mouth shut, at least minimize what she was saying? Because then she starts going into that they're having all. They have a bad marriage and that.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Well, she says. She says, when I married him, I was young and stupid. And I think an argument could be made that nothing had changed. That was, I think, still true on the day of her husband's death.

[Andrea Canning]

And custody issues. I mean, all the things that lead to these date lines, you know, they.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

She and her husband. Her husband seems like a great guy. From everything we were able to determine, not long after they were married, she starts stepping out on him. Not with just the guy who ended up killing him, but a bunch of other guys, too, to the point where her husband installed, I think, a surveillance camera outside their front door. Not to catch bad guys and not to keep the house safe, but to get a picture of one of Jaycee's lovers, which I think he did.

[Andrea Canning]

Oh, there were. There were a bunch.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Andrea Canning]

And she said to one of the lovers, omg. No, I wrote omg. She didn't say omg. I wrote OMG on my notes. I wish he'd run out of air in a fire.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Yeah. Yeah. She was hoping that her husband would die, you know, in the line of duty, which prosecutors believe that this was all about the insurance money and that if he had died in the line of duty, I think maybe she would have gotten some additional payment, too. But, you know, I mean, they also told different stories about, like. Like the. He wasn't supposed to be killed. That was originally. This was just about scaring him. This was about giving the husband a good talking to, telling him, you know, to stay away from her. Because there was this sort of mythology that she created that he was violent and controlling and abusive physically and verbally. And there just wasn't any evidence of that.

[Andrea Canning]

I mean, we see that a lot.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Nobody seemed to believe that that was true about Mr. Pointer.

[Andrea Canning]

Like, don't you agree, though? We see that all the time where women will get the lover on board, you know, to. To do harm to their husband, because they're saying he's doing this to me. And that. To me. And he's abusive.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

And, I mean, the reason that works is that it's true so much of the time. That's the thing, right?

[Andrea Canning]

Oh, yes. Oh, 100%.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Women very rarely commit homicide. Right. They almost always find somebody else to do it for them. That's sort of how this usually goes. Right. And one of the things that moves men to be the agent of somebody else in a murder is, well, this person is hurting me, this person is abusive. This person is beating me. And then guys want to sort of feel like the white knight here.

[Andrea Canning]

Yeah. And I actually. It took me down memory lane a little bit with a story that I did. This was about an army soldier. His name was Army Sergeant Vincent Goslin Jr. And he was shot to death on a remote Kentucky road after stopping to help what appeared to be a stranded motorist. At first it looked like a random act of violence, but investigators, you know, after he was shot uncovered a calculated murder for hire plot orchestrated by his wife and her lover. Prosecutors said that she lured her husband to the isolated location where the lover then killed him, and they both pleaded guilty. So, I mean, it's a very similar story.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

I mean, you change the names. That's the Chasey and Bob Pointer story.

[Candy (Bob Poynter's mother)]

Yeah.

[Andrea Canning]

You know, that was the one.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Yeah.

[Andrea Canning]

Where I had the sweat bee video. I don't know if you ever saw that. I remember that one after me. And I was, like, doing.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

I remember that. I remember.

[Andrea Canning]

Yeah. Because I was trying to do interviews, and there were, like, a million sweat bees.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

The thing about you that's different from, well, just for example, me is that. Is that you looked cool and elegant, swatting away the bees. Like, that's a. You know, whereas I would have looked like a, you know, like a character, you know, in a cartoon, leaving an outline of their body as they go through a wall.

[Andrea Canning]

I mean, Josh, to. To be fair, I think I probably look like Elaine from Seinfeld. You know, her, like, you know, that really weird dance that she does that's, like, on all the memes. I think I looked more like that,

[Josh Mankiewicz]

to be honest with you.

[Andrea Canning]

But thank you.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

You looked better.

[Andrea Canning]

Speaking of TV shows, I definitely was thinking a lot about Orange is the New Black, the TV show, because of the sheer number of times, Josh, that you mentioned orange or. And how people would look in orange. I mean, can I go. Wait, can I go through them first?

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Sure.

[Andrea Canning]

Before you respond.

Sure.

Okay. So first you had I rock an orange jumpsuit. Orange is the New Black, the male version that was from Michael Garza, the lover, the killer, then the killer. Then you had Chacey saying, I don't look good in orange. And then you had one more. You had Michael Garza actually in the orange in the mug. And you said that he looked about as good as you'd think in orange.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

It's not every day that you hear a killer say, I'll do it. And I rock an orange jumpsuit. Right. In other words, I'm gonna get caught. Right. And then they do get caught. And then you do see them in an orange jumpsuit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrea Canning]

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[Andrea Canning]

The other thing that was like really crazy about this was Michael Garza's alibi. I mean, we've heard a lot of alibis over the years, but he was milking a cow.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Yeah. Yeah. In the middle of the night.

[Andrea Canning]

Yeah.

What?

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Yeah, that was, you know. Again, this is a. You know, I mean, you hear cops sometimes say we don't catch the smart ones Right. Sometimes they do catch the smart ones, but like, a lot of times who they catch are literally people who, like Chasey, tell like three different stories in the first three hours or actually probably less than that. And Michael Garza, who, you know, says things like, I rock an orange jumpsuit and. And his. His alibi is I was milking a cow. Like. Like, you want to have, you know, your cell phone at some different location at that moment, you know. You know, you want to have somebody testify. Oh, no, you know, Mike and I were having a beer at the saloon. Right, right. But, you know, I mean, you know, when you are dumb enough to commit murder and dumb enough to immediately lie about it in a way that's going to get caught and dumb enough to hire a guy like that, you kind of deserve what you get.

[Andrea Canning]

Yeah, I mean, the whole plan was just so full filled up and sadly

[Josh Mankiewicz]

though, the result is like, you know, there's kids without a dad and yeah,

[Andrea Canning]

that mother, the mother without her son.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

You know, Bob Pointer was one of those guys who did not lose touch with his mom over the years. Like, they spoke all the time. I mean, I think safe to say she was like maybe his best friend. Which is why interviewing her was sort of, I thought, paramount in this.

[Andrea Canning]

Josh, we have an extra clip that from your interview with Bob Poynter's mother. We are going to take a listen.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Just tell me a little bit more about what he was like as a dad, I guess, to Addison.

[Candy (Bob Poynter's mother)]

To Addison. Oh, my God, he adored her. I mean, from the get go. I mean, she looked just like him. She loved. I mean, he just doted on her. He would cook, teach her how to cook. They were cooking and Bobby loved to cook. Bob loved to cook. So he even said, oh, mom. I think a couple weeks before he passed away, he said, I want to get Addison even a chef's coat she likes. Washington, Food Network and all that. And I want to. We started researching right away to buy her one.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

He'd let Addison put red nail polish on.

[Candy (Bob Poynter's mother)]

Oh, totally. There's pictures of him with his glasses on painting his nails or her nails and he's painting her nails. I thought, oh, Lord. He was just like a gentle soul. He was like a gentle giant. I would call him sometimes because he was so big.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

One of the things that comes out of that, I think, is that, you know, he was a very involved dad, not just to the daughter he had with Chacey, who was, I think six and a half when he was killed, but also to his two older daughters that he had with his first wife. He was a big part of all of their lives. And, you know, again, that's a sort of a extra tragedy out of all this. And we. Something we talk about all the time, kind of the. The ripple effect of murder.

[Andrea Canning]

Here's like, maybe, maybe a lesson. Why do spouses allow, you know, increases in life insurance policies or more life insurance policies when they maybe aren't in the best marriage or maybe they know someone's cheating in the relationship? And then you always hear these stories about just months before the murder or like, sometimes it's like days they up their policy or added more policies.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Look, you know, another case that always sort of springs to mind happened a long time ago here in California. The. The murderer was a. Had been a Jeopardy. Champion, and he poisoned his wife with nicotine. And she was sick for a long time, and the doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong with her. And her friends were saying to her, I can tell you what this is. This is your husband. He's trying to kill you. He's making you sick somehow. And she said to them, oh, he wouldn't do that. He loves me. That wouldn't happen.

[Andrea Canning]

But.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

But she took him off her life insurance. She made her sister the beneficiary of her life insurance, and she didn't tell him.

[Andrea Canning]

Did he know?

[Josh Mankiewicz]

He did not know, no.

[Andrea Canning]

You got. You got to tell. You got to tell the husband.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

A couple of days after she died, he's on the phone with the life insurance company, and he's like, I'm sorry. What? Right.

[Andrea Canning]

So, like, I mean, no, no, no, no, no. If you're going to do that, you need to say something.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

My point is thinking to yourself, I need to protect myself is one thing, or I'm uncomfortable with this, or I'm going to take my husband off the insurance. That's sort of easier to do than to confront someone and say, I want you to know something. I've taken you off my insurance. And the reason is, I don't think you have my best interest at heart. That is so much harder than. Than calling the insurance company and saying, switch the beneficiary to my family member.

[Andrea Canning]

Very, very true, Very true. You know what's interesting, Josh, that the jury said in the end that they didn't think Chacey killed Bob for money.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Right.

[Andrea Canning]

Which I didn't really get because she stood, you know, to gain this money. And then the jury. I didn't. Did you get that?

[Josh Mankiewicz]

I mean, that is correct. That the jury did not believe that. Prosecutors did believe that this was, this was for financial gain. He had a, he had a, you know, insurance policy of between 500,000 and a million dollars. But, you know, I would say that it's reasonable to believe that they didn't really know why they were killing him. I mean, I'm to suggest that this was just for money. Like I, like, I never believed that this was about her and Michael Garza being together. I mean, she had a bunch of other guys that she was seeing too. Like, this is not like we're going to get this money and run off together. Like she wanted to be free. I think she thought maybe the money might make life easier. But like the idea that the money was the motive for this, I don't know. But yes, they were. She was not convicted of murder for financial gain.

[Andrea Canning]

All right, Josh, up next, you are going to take over for a special talking DATELINE challenge. You do not want to miss this.

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[Josh Mankiewicz]

Okay, welcome back to Talking dateline. Now instead of taking your social media questions, Andrea and I are going to play a game and it is one that you and I talked about a year ago back on this podcast. So let's, let's go back in time here. Andrea was talking to me about a lawyer, an attorney that she had interviewed for her episode called Poison Twist, which was about a chiropractor's poisoning death in New York. So let's listen to what Andrea and I were talking about after that on Talking Dateline.

[Andrea Canning]

She's fellow Canadian, and I picked up on her accent immediately during our interview. She was saying a boat. And, you know, I said, you're. You're Canadian, aren't you? And she's from Niagara Falls.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Can you automatically, instantly tell when somebody's Canadian?

[Andrea Canning]

I feel like I have that radar. You know, that special is. Would you call it radar? I don't know if that's the right term, but absolutely. I mean, I can pick out actors, I can pick out lawyers. I can pick out anybody pretty much instantaneously as soon as, like, you know, I just need a few words, choice words, and then we're good.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

I know this feels, by the way, like a social media contest that is upcoming. Right. I can, I can see this coming. I'm going to be the moderator. So, yes, this is. This kind of thing is sort of why Talking Dateline exists, in my view. So we have outsourced a task to some of our fabulous Dateline ambassadors, the people who tell you on social media this episode or that episode is upcoming and who's gonna be on.

[Candy (Bob Poynter's mother)]

Okay.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

And we have had some American and Canadian Dateline viewers and listeners.

[Candy (Bob Poynter's mother)]

I know.

[Andrea Canning]

What if I get this wrong?

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Send us voice recordings.

[Candy (Bob Poynter's mother)]

Oh, my God.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Of the same sentence. And the sentence is, for the record, I have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.

[Andrea Canning]

Now I'm feeling the pressure, though, because of that statement that I made.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

So, Andrea, we are going to play some clips of people saying that line, and you, little Miss Canadian, and can identify other Canadians, you're going to guess whether the person speaking is American or Canadian. Here is clip number one.

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For the record, I have no idea

[Andrea Canning]

what you're talking about.

[Simplisafe Announcer]

Sorry.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

American or Canadian?

[Andrea Canning]

I mean, she sounds like. That's not how they would say it in my town. So she sounds American to me.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

American is correct.

[Andrea Canning]

Yay. Okay.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Okay.

[Andrea Canning]

Thank you.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Okay, that's good.

[Andrea Canning]

All right. Okay.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Clip number two.

[Andrea Canning]

For the record, I have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry. She's definitely Canadian.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

The sorry gave it away.

[Andrea Canning]

I think both the sorry and the about. Yeah.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Okay. So that person is Canadian.

[Andrea Canning]

Okay.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Yes. So far you're batting a thousand. Yeah. Would you like to risk it all, Andrea, and go for clip number three?

[Andrea Canning]

I would.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Here we go.

[Andrea Canning]

For the record, I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm sorry. She definitely. She sounds American, but if she's Canadian, then she's. She's not saying it how Canadians say it.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

That's not an answer. Judges, Sorry.

[Andrea Canning]

Fine.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Andrea did not choose.

[Andrea Canning]

Fine. American. She's American.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

American is correct. Okay, Andrea, three for three.

[Andrea Canning]

You know what's funny, Josh, is that I was. When I was in Taiwan recently, on my other story, I was at the national park, and this man came up to me and started talking to me, and I said, you're Canadian? And he said, yes, I am. How did you know that? And I said, because I' Canadian, and I can pick a Canadian even out of a Taiwanese national park.

[Grainger Announcer]

There you go.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

So you are three for three now in baseball, you know, three for three gets you in the hall of Fame. If you can do that, you know, your entire career. So. All right, here's clip number four.

[Simplisafe Announcer]

For the record, I have no idea

[Andrea Canning]

what you're talking about.

Sorry.

She's definitely Canadian.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

That person is American.

[Odoo Announcer]

What?

[Andrea Canning]

That. How is that possible? She said. She didn't. Is she, like, from Minnesota?

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Oh, yeah, I see.

[Andrea Canning]

Josh, that. That was a. That was a red herrings ringer because she's too close to Canada and they talk so much like Canadians. That's the one. Fly in the ointment.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Judges. They don't care. Also, there's no one over here that I'm looking at.

[Andrea Canning]

See, I. I can't. I don't know enough people from Minnesota, I guess, to be able to separate the Canadian Minnesota accent.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

I'll give you a little grace. Here's clip number five.

[Candy (Bob Poynter's mother)]

For the record, I have no idea

[Andrea Canning]

what you're talking about.

[Candy (Bob Poynter's mother)]

Sorry.

[Andrea Canning]

Definitely sounds Canadian, unless they're from a northern state. But I'm going to go with Canadian.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Canadian is correct.

[Andrea Canning]

Okay. Okay. All right. At least I got. I got four out of five, so.

Right.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

And now, finally, for all the money in the world, plus an RV and a chaperoned trip to Puerto Vallarta.

[Andrea Canning]

How about to Minnesota?

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Okay, sure. And a gift certificate from the Spiegel catalog. Spiegel. Featuring value selection and economy. Spiegel, Chicago, IL, 60609. Can you tell that I watched a lot of game shows growing up? You probably can.

[Andrea Canning]

Yes, yes. Roll it.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Number six.

[Andrea Canning]

For the record, I have no idea

[Simplisafe Announcer]

what you're talking about.

[Candy (Bob Poynter's mother)]

Sorry.

[Andrea Canning]

That one's kind of in between. I'm going to go with American. But it could be, could go either way.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

I hate to see you go out on a losing note, Andrea. Oh, no, that person was Canadian.

[Andrea Canning]

But where she, I wish I knew where these people were from.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

But I have to say, you, you backed up your claim. I think, I think you do for the most part. I think, I think you're, you're able to say that you've got, you've got a fail safe or pretty close to it sense of who's from Canada and who isn't.

[Andrea Canning]

So, yeah, I gotta study the dialect a little more. You know, the northern states.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

We want to thank you for playing. We have a home version of our game.

[Andrea Canning]

Could you imagine, Josh? Well, thank you so much for this. It was very fun, as always. Fun and also interesting and fascinating because we are dealing, of course, with very heavy subject matter. So it's nice to have a little moment where we can smile. Right?

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Yes, it is also right. Keith, you would have crushed Keith in that competition, by the way, that, you

[Andrea Canning]

know, that would have been interesting to have Keith and I go head to head. I wonder what he would have, how he would have done actually this. Well, this is not airing while we're taping this right now. But it is Keith's birthday.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

It is Keith's birthday. Yes.

[Andrea Canning]

Everybody wish Keith a happy birthday. It'll be a little belated when this comes out, but happy birthday to Keith.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Happy birthday.

[Andrea Canning]

Well, that is it, Josh, for talking Dateline. Thank you.

[Josh Mankiewicz]

Thank you.

[Andrea Canning]

And thank you all for listening. And thank you to the DATELINE ambassadors who shared their voices for this challenge. Thanks, Jessica McCourt Hughes, the slickest Rick, Jojo Montana, Caitlin Clark, Anna Falkowski and Erica Grimaldi. And remember, if you have any questions about our stories, you can DM us your audio or video on our socials and DatelinenBC or leave us a voicemail at 212-413-5252 for a chance to be featured right here. And you can watch the video version of Talking Dateline on Peacock or YouTube or subscribe to the NBC News app. We will see you Fridays on Dateline on NBC.

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