Beans Talk | Trump Lies About 2020 Election Interference and Election Vulnerabilities

Summary

The Daily Beans: Beans Talk | Trump Lies About 2020 Election Interference and Election Vulnerabilities

Date: July 17, 2026
Hosts: Allison Gill & Dana Goldberg
Podcast: The Daily Beans (MSW Media)

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Overview

In this incisive and characteristically snarky episode, Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg dissect Donald Trump’s most recent speech, wherein he made sweeping, unfounded claims about U.S. election vulnerabilities and supposed foreign interference. Amid a climate of heightened political anxiety ahead of the midterms and in the wake of media skepticism about broadcasting Trump’s statements live, the hosts break down both the content and the context, exposing misleading statements, factual inaccuracies, and the recycled nature of Trump’s narratives. The show maintains its trademark blend of sharp political analysis, humor, and progressive commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Media Reaction to Trump’s Speech

• Networks' Stance: Major networks (ABC, NBC, CNN) either refused to air the speech or provided significant disclaimers, stating outright that the 2020 election was legitimate and that claims of interference had been debunked. CBS covered it with strong caveats ([01:41–01:56]).
• Legal Awareness: Media is wary post-Fox News Dominion settlement, fearing lawsuits if they broadcast proven falsehoods ([01:56], Dana Goldberg: “they can get sued just like Fox News did”).

2. Mark Elias’s Five-Point Prediction

• Pre-Speech Checklist: Attorney Mark Elias predicted Trump would attempt to:
  • Undermine election integrity
  • Scrutinize voting machines
  • Invoke “national security” to justify federal intervention
  • Amplify claims to make Democratic victories challengeable
  • Push for the SAVE Act ([02:22–02:40])
• Hosts confirm: Trump touched on each point during his speech.

3. Main Claims from Trump’s Speech

• General Themes: Trump repeated old talking points: economic self-congratulation, border security, the military, and—most urgently—“shocking” election vulnerabilities ([02:40–03:35]).
• Election Claims Breakdown:
  1. Compromised Data / Foreign Interference:
     • Trump alleged China acquired 220 million U.S. voter files; did not claim any manipulation of actual votes ([07:04–07:49]).
  2. Deep State Suppression:
     • Accused the "deep state" of hiding evidence of Chinese interference ([07:49–08:17]).
     • Hosts note these accusations often project Trump’s own history ([05:12], Allison Gill: “every accusation from this government is an admission of guilt”).
  3. Unproven Ballot Schemes:
     • Reference to Chinese plans to manufacture Biden ballots—no evidence provided ([10:07–10:20]).
     • Mockery of ‘burn bags’ and document handling ([10:22–10:50]).
  4. Voting Machine Vulnerabilities:
     • Rehashed claims that U.S. adversaries could hack machines; admits no actual evidence of tampering ([12:09–13:34]).
  5. Alleged Voter Fraud in Michigan:
     • Trump cited unsupported stories of swapped voter registrations and noncitizens on voter rolls ([14:11–15:59]).

4. Critical Rebuttals from the Hosts

• Factual Corrections:
  • Data on “vulnerabilities” is old and well-known; no proof any were exploited to change votes ([04:45–04:53]).
  • Official reports confirm no successful interference ([08:17]).
• Projection:
  • Pattern highlighted: Trump's claims resemble tactics and actions attributed to his own 2016 campaign ([09:29], Dana Goldberg: “every accusation is a confession”).
• Trump’s Corner:
  • Trump sets himself up; with only four months before midterms, if vulnerabilities remain, he is responsible ([06:48–07:02]).
• Media Pushback:
  • Fox News and even conservative networks are avoiding uncritical amplification of these claims after the Dominion case ([18:48–19:18]).
• Legal/Ironic Commentary:
  • Gift card claims and voter impersonation accusations are more provable among Trump’s own supporters ([14:11]).

5. The Save Act and Future Strategy

• Trump concluded with a call to pass the SAVE Act, continuing to build a pretext for contesting future election results ([17:13]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Network Disclaimer:

  • Dana Goldberg: “CBS started this whole thing by saying, no matter what you about to hear, we're just going to tell you Trump lost the election. That has been proven. There was no election interference. That has been proven.” ([01:56])

• On Trump’s Pattern:

  • Allison Gill: “Every accusation from this government is an admission of guilt.” ([05:12])

• On Deep State Claims:

  • Dana Goldberg: “The deep state. And then he was like, you know who those people are? The bad people.” ([07:49])

• On Old News:

  • Allison Gill: “That's old news.” ([04:45])

• On No Evidence:

  • Allison Gill: “If he had evidence that votes were manipulated and he had a document that he declassified showing that he would have put it up on the screen, there would have already been indictments.” ([18:02–18:15])

• On Recycled Lies:

  • Dana Goldberg: “Same lies that were provably false. When Jack Smith subpoenaed all the reports and Donald Trump tried to sue. Sue 60 something times and lost all of them. He had no evidence of it.” ([15:21–15:59])

• On Trump’s Health:

  • Dana Goldberg: “He definitely looked, I don't know if you saw it, like he was holding himself up by the podium… one of his arms was working and the other one wasn’t.” ([17:30–17:57])

• On Fox News’s Reluctance:

  • Allison Gill: “Fox News talked about it for a few minutes, just rehashing what was said, and then moved on to different stories. They didn't want to touch it, so not even Fox News is touching this.” ([19:18])

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Timeline of Important Segments

• 01:27: Trump’s speech overview and network reactions
• 02:22: The Mark Elias five-point checklist for Trump's speech
• 03:35: Trump’s opening lies: inflation, jobs, economy, military
• 04:44: Initial claims about voting vulnerabilities
• 05:12: Deep state and projection patterns
• 07:04: Major allegations about China acquiring voter files
• 08:17: Hosts cite official reports debunking Trump’s claims
• 10:07: Accusations of manufactured ballots, burn bag insanity
• 12:09: Voting machines and hacking—debunked
• 14:11: Michigan fraud tales and noncitizen voter roll claims
• 15:59: LA Mayor election complaints and media avoidance
• 17:13: The finale and SAVE Act push
• 17:30: Observations on Trump's physical demeanor
• 18:15: No real evidence, commentary on the recycling of lies
• 19:18: Fox News and conservative media reaction

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Conclusion

Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg thoroughly debunk Trump’s litany of election conspiracy claims, emphasizing their recycled, evidence-free nature. They highlight the increased caution of mainstream and even conservative media in giving Trump’s falsehoods a platform, especially in light of recent legal battles. The hosts’ blend of factual rebuttal, sharp wit, and concern for democratic norms gives listeners not just a recap of Trump’s speech but a toolkit for critically examining similar political rhetoric.

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For a dose of clarity, camaraderie, and progressive snark, this episode delivers—reminding listeners that vigilance, facts, and a sense of humor remain crucial during these turbulent times.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Barbecue sauce. Hey, everybody. It's. It's Friday, july 17th, 2026. I'm alison gill.

[C]

I'm dana goldberg, and this is beans talk.

[A]

Okay, we just finished watching Trump's thing.

[C]

I mean, did we finish it or did we, like, CBS did, cut away from it because he's absolutely insane.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Okay, so first of all, ABC, NBC refused to air it. Then last minute, CNN's like, we're not going to carry it. Will bring you updates as it happens. Not even cnn. ABC cut away, or cbs.

[C]

Excuse me, it's cut away. And CBS started this whole thing by saying, no matter what you about to hear, we're just going to tell you Trump lost the election. That has been proven. There was no election interference. That has been proven. And so they save their ass because as we know, Barry Weiss is running this, and she's not dumb. They know if they let this run without them saying this is not true, they. They can get sued just like Fox News did.

[A]

Yeah. And so we promised you that we'd watch this thing and bring it to you a little bit later. So thanks to our patrons who get this the night it comes out for. For waiting a minute. We. We promised we'd bring it to you after we watched it. I honestly, Dana, I texted you and I was like, if he's not there by 6:30, that's the story. Him. I'm not reporting on but he came on, started on time, finished in 25 or so minutes. So let's talk about what he said. First of all, I want to go over what Mark Elias said to look for five things before this whole thing happened. Marcolia said, watch for this. He's going to try to undermine election. He's going to put voting machines under scrutiny. Check. He's going to create a national security excuse for federal intervention. He did that. But he hasn't made the federal intervention yet. He's going to make dim victories easier to challenge. Right. By saying all these things. He's going to try to revive the SAVE Act. Check. He did that at the end. And build an election control agenda for 20, 28. So let's go over some first. He opened the speech with a, like the America's the hottest country. And he lied about inflation and jobs and how great the economy is and touted border security and took credit for the best military that unfortunately we have to use now because of him.

[C]

Right. But it can't be the best military because apparently the testosterone levels are very low.

[A]

Everybody low T in the military.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

We're winning big in Iran, and you'll see the fruits of that labor shortly.

[D]

No.

[A]

Okay. It's been five months. But then he got to elections, right, Dana?

[C]

Yeah. So he basically said the system that we have falls catastrophically short of security. Not true, by the way. Our system has been fine, apparently. Except the election that he lost. He said that he's declassifying intel, revealing shocking vulnerabilities, and then he listed like, five different categories of tranches of documents that he was going to declassify.

[A]

Yeah. And I think we should, actually, since we're, we do have a great editor who can do this in post, that maybe we should add a laugh track to, to everything that we're talking about. Like a 90s sitcom laugh track. I'm thinking Roseanne. I'm thinking Friends.

[C]

I love it.

[A]

Something like that. So first of all, he said that, you know, like you said, the evidence shows the system exposed exposes us to hacking and, and foreign interference. Now, he didn't say we've been hacked.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And that there was change. There were changes in votes. Just that we have vulnerabilities, which we've known for decades. That's old news.

[C]

Yeah. And I'm wondering if we had those vulnerabilities that existed in the last election, wouldn't anyone be able to hack them? Like, I don't know, Elon Musk? I mean, if those vulnerabilities were there, it makes you question things, doesn't it? Because every accusation from this government is, Is an admission of guilt. We already know that.

[A]

That's so true.

[C]

We already know that.

[A]

And he's also saying that it's been covered up and hidden from you even though he was the President.

[C]

He was the president. I was thinking about that too, while he was saying it.

[A]

And he's, he says that his, his intelligence apparatus, which is a mortgage guy and, you know, like the CIA director. I don't know. Was it still Ratcliffe? I can't even keep track.

[C]

I have no idea.

[A]

Rack revolving door of idiots. Have confirmed fully the authenticity of the documents you, you are about to see. And you can get them all at the White House, at the White House website. But he says it's not. What he's doing is not to weaken confidence, but to build confidence by correcting problems.

[C]

Yeah, and that's my question. And that's what even cbs, who we know is compromised because they're in his pocket, said at the end of the, okay, you laid out all of this alleged interference. What are you going to do about it? What are you going to do to stop it from happening in the midterms instead of going, there's nothing. We, we couldn't figure out how to stop this. So the midterms either aren't, you know, we can't certify them because obviously there was interference, or they're going to say that we have to have a national emergency because we're, you know, like you said, that they're going to do a national emergency or the National Guard has to be deployed because we have to make sure our elections safe. And by the way, that ridiculous number he said of people that were not American citizens that were on the voter rolls is a lie. Yeah, the whole thing's a lie.

[A]

Because here's the thing, he's kind of painted himself in a corner. You know, we've got July, August, September, October, November, December. We got the five, four months to the midterms.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And he says we're going to correct these problems before the midterms. So if there are problems with the midterms, it's because he failed to correct them.

[C]

So let's go. Good point.

[A]

Let's go over these five major areas, five major areas of problems that he talked about. And this is where we should bring the laugh track in. He said, In 2020, China carried out a compromise of election data, resulting in acquisition of 220 million voter files. Election security nightmare. Okay, so he didn't say they did stuff with it and then used it to manipulate vote. When you have voter data files, which, by the way, I think he sold, Manafort sold to Kilimnik, who gave it to, remember, Deripaska and Russia. Like, okay, so how many millions of voter files and internal polling data did you give to the Russians when you were running in 2016? He didn't cover that.

[C]

And then this sounded wild. I can't believe he actually said this. The deep state. And then he was like, you know who those people are? The bad people. Basically, the deep state actively suppressed information about China's meddling in and covered it up. That's what he's saying. Now, this happened in 2020 when they discovered the voter data in 18 states were bought, stolen, or hacked by China, but the IC kept it secret. That's what he's saying.

[A]

Okay, that's also laughable because I'm right now looking at a 2020, 2021 report from the DHS, CISA, the FBI, and the Department of Justice saying China tried to interfere in our elections, try to manipulate voter data and tried to get into certain states, voters, you know, voting systems, but they failed. So they didn't hide it. It's it. I'm looking at the report on my computer screen right now. Next up, CIA reporting states that in mid-2018. So now he's trying to go after the 2018 blue wave midterm elections.

[E]

Right.

[A]

The Chinese policy was to prevent Trump's reelection. Okay, they didn't say. He didn't say that they did prevent Trump's reelection, just that that was their policy. Everybody's known this. They also worked to influence the 2018 and 2020 election. Yes, they did. We know that. It's been reported. That is public information. They failed in 2019. He said they focused on undermining confidence in Trump. Quote, efforts to use Chinese contacts with big companies to urge companies to go against Trump. And they paid journalists large sums of money to publish negative stories about Trump. Again, these were efforts. No evidence that it was successful, nor did he provide any evidence that it was.

[C]

And if you go back to the 2016 election, I don't know why people aren't making the connecting the dots. This is everything that Russia was found guilty of, everything that Russia was found guilty of, including bots putting out articles, paying journalists. And if you followed the journalist ip, it went back to somebody in Russia. I'm telling you everything. Accusation is a confession. The next thing, raw intel From FBI in 2020 got buried saying that China attempted to manufacture illegal ballots For Joe Biden again attempted.

[A]

So China wrote down somewhere that we're going to try to manufacture ballots, but they have no evidence that it happened. And I guess because that didn't show up in a report somewhere, then that's the deep state. I got to text Andy McCabe and be like, hey, deep state, what's up today?

[C]

Yeah, what up, deep.

[A]

Next thing we found, we found. Here's the next one we found burn bags used to destroy info given by Obama to be burned, but they weren't burned.

[C]

I don't know if it was incompetence or what happened, but it didn't happen. And it's good that didn't happen. And I'm sure Obama and Michelle, who are not watching this, Obama might have been. Michelle was like, I got better things to do. But I bet you Brock was like, what the fuck is he talking about?

[A]

Okay, here's what I know, because I happen to be good friends with somebody who used to be the acting director of the FBI. Burn bag stuff is generally duplicates, right, of stuff that you have in a, in a computer system. And you put them in burn bags to incinerate because you know when you're leaving, it's not like you're trying to destroy evidence. It's very, very normal to, to have burn bags full of stuff.

[C]

Right. He didn't have burn bags. He took boxes out and put them in a shitter at Mar A Lago of the actual documents.

[A]

And by the way, probably all of the stuff that he's claiming is a big red flag is probably stuff that he stole.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So what are you doing about it?

[D]

Right.

[A]

He's. He's apparently asking dni, the mortgage guy, the Department of Justice, right. Todd Blanche will do anything for him. FBI, Kash Patel, if you can wake him up with a battering ram because he's been drinking too much. And the CIA there, he's asking him to investigate. The info was hidden because it was classified. You just said you declassified. Was classified. And to file criminal charges if appropriate. Good luck with that.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Now the third set.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

The third set, according to Donald, the third set of documents proves Americans were lied to about voting machine security. We knew it was going to come

[C]

up and this is what he said. They're vulnerable and people knew that. No, that's not true. Reports prove the government has long known the machines are vulnerable. Not true.

[A]

Well, it, I mean, they're not. They are, but they. There's no proof that they were correct.

[C]

Hacked. Of course they're Vulnerable.

[A]

I mean, we've known that for decades.

[C]

Yes, absolutely. But this is the quote, the US adversaries, including Russia, China, Iran, notice how he got them in there, et cetera, had the capability to compromise election infrastructure. Again, but they didn't.

[A]

The capability. Oh, they have the capability, but it didn't happen. So apparently there was some sort of intelligence report that voting machines are, you know, have vulnerabilities and need to be updated and make sure that they're air gapped. But they, you know, nothing beyond that. And we already knew that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

We assess that centralized databases, like voter data, are most vulnerable to exploitation that doesn't flip votes, by the way. Yeah, bad guys could use that info to disrupt elections. They did in 2016. On your behalf. Thank you, Russia. But he says it started in 2020 and people are wondering if people could manipulate vote totals. Oh, people were wondering if people could manipulate vote totals, but found no evidence that vote totals were manipulated. And there was a plot to do a big number in favor of Maduro in his elections. And that's what happened. They digitally rigged their own elections in Venezuela, not ours.

[C]

I can't. Okay, so the fourth set of all of these documents is evidence of fraud that has been covered up. He's saying FBI files detailed alleged voter fraud in Michigan. He's very specific about Michigan here. Alleged, alleged voter fraud in Michigan. Just making this up. The documents state that some canvassers admitted they signed registration forms in other people's names and got gift cards for it. What does that sound like?

[A]

Those are Trump voters, actually.

[C]

Yeah. And doesn't it sound like what Elon Musk did by giving people bonuses for getting people signed up and registered? By the way, there's no evidence that it altered any of the vote total. And asking FBI director to investigate with DOJ to prosecute. His FBI director right now, Kash Patel and his own DOJ to prosecute is going to be really interesting to see who's about to get a federal, you know, indictment subpoena based on this.

[A]

Next up, results of the DHS investigation say voter rules identified 278,000 non citizens. That's a complete fabrication.

[C]

100% fabrication. I think they said 25,000 within the entire voting, like, apparatus. Like 6. No, not even 68 million voters. They maybe found 25,000. Maybe found 25,000. This number is.

[A]

They didn't vote. They were just registered.

[C]

Right. And this number Trump even admitted because the blue states won't hand over their voter rolls, means all of these 278,000 supposedly live in red states.

[A]

What now? Yeah, and. And the, the thing is, is that to have somebody who can't vote on your voter rolls is not a problem unless they actually vote. Right. And there's not an instance of that here. No proof they voted at all. And China has been trying to interfere. Same lies here he told in 2020 about dead voters and illegal voters, etc. I mean, just went on with a bunch of lies. Same lies that were provably false. When Jack Smith subpoenaed all the reports and Donald Trump tried to sue. Sue 60 something times and lost all of them. He had no evidence of it.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Let's see what, what's next on here.

[A]

The LA Mayor election. Still mad about his buddies.

[C]

The LA Mayor election. Basically he was saying it got completed just on July 10th. And that's.

[A]

Yeah, he was complaining.

[C]

This is because that's what we do to certify elections here.

[A]

That's when we do it. That's when we certify our elections here. We were done counting a while ago. Yeah, we certify on July 10th. That's our rules. Which we're allowed to do. And then.

[C]

Because states control their own elections.

[A]

Isn't that crazy?

[C]

I know.

[A]

And then he complained about nobody carrying his bullshit. NBC and ABC did cover my speech because they don't like the topic.

[C]

No, they want this to stay covered up. Okay. The media is part of the plot to continue this fraud. The guy sounds like a crazy grandpa.

[A]

Fox News had to pay $787.5 million for spreading what you are saying tonight. Donald Trump as the truth.

[C]

Right. That's why NBC was like, no, thank you. ABC was like no thank you. And CBS covered their ass before this speech even started. And then he goes on to this bullshit about we should be united and not divided.

[A]

Yeah, we're united. And knowing that you're full of shit.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Then of course, as Mark Elias predicted and as everybody could have seen coming, he said we must pass the SAVE Act. Everyone call your reps to pass it. And so, I mean, that's kind of how it ended. Yeah, he was just reading poorly. He looks terrible.

[C]

The gargling in his lungs, I mean. Yeah, it feels like. Sounds like pulmonary, like edema. I don't even know what's going on with him, but he definitely looked, I don't know if you saw it, like he was holding himself up by the podium and then when he would let go, he would sort of slump and just sort of sit there and then

[A]

somebody would probably give him a high Sign from the thing, like, hold yourself up, sir.

[C]

Yep, probably. And then he was like this the whole time. Like one of his arms was working and the other one wasn't.

[A]

He's got a dead right arm. And like.

[C]

Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah. It looked like the right arm was just like, we're not helping here.

[A]

Anyway, that was it. You didn't miss anything. It's the same old shtick. No evidence. If he had evidence that votes were manipulated and he had a document that he declassified showing that he would have put it up on the screen, there

[C]

would have already been indictments.

[A]

He would have had big things behind him with these documents. Nothing. Nothing. It's big.

[C]

Nothing.

[A]

Burger. All he's doing is setting up pretext for, you know, to. To say it's rigged, which is what he did in 2020. It's what he did in 2016. He was already willing to do that. He always complains about fraud ahead of an election so that he can say it was rigged if it doesn't go his way.

[C]

And they're. They're trying to. They're figuring out a plan now. There was what, 12, 12, I believe, election deniers that met at the White House. We covered it on the long beans. They're trying to figure out what the plan is. They're getting their messaging now, and they're going to figure out what they're going to say for the midterms when they get their ass handed to them. And China already put out a statement before this ever happened. It was like a prebuttal is what they're calling it, where he was like, we do not interfere with other countries elections. This is an internal matter within the United States. The States people will decide their elections. China has not and will never interfere in a United States election.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, and by the way, a friend just told me, a friend of mine got real brave and watched it on Fox News because, like I said, they had to pay $787.5 million for these lies. He says, I went through the race channels. Fox News talked about it for a few minutes, just rehashing what was said, and then moved on to different stories. They didn't want to touch it, so not even Fox News is touching this. Donald Trump was reported, reported reportedly apocalyptically angry that everyone is calling the diarrhea pandemic Trumperia. Okay.

[C]

Oh, my God. That's funny.

[A]

That's different. I was kind of hoping somebody slip him some poop lettuce before this address.

[C]

Oh, man. You know what I was hoping for? Live tv.

[A]

I know. I know what you're hoping for.

[C]

I'm not going to say it on here.

[A]

I know what you. I know. And, hey, I know I'm not the only one. We all have dreams. All right, everybody. We do have a moxie moment for you today. Thank you so much, by the way, for sitting through this. Of course.

[C]

Why wouldn't I? You got we. Oh, you were talking to them.

[A]

No, I was talking to you. I was like. I was like, would you stay up late with me to cover this just in case he tries to cancel elections or something? It's all just all bullshit.

[C]

But you're giving me my favorite volleyball player.

[A]

It is Favorite volleyball player ever. Hailing from Hacienda Heights, California, an outside hitter for Cal State Northridge. Watch this.

[D]

Although I don't never so I don't take shit I got no love for the faith is if you want to play tough and want to hate this Although we show up and make a statement I don't never so I don't take shit I got no love for the fake news if you want to play tough and want to hate this alo we show up and make a statement Everything I do so instinctive and so passionate Every word I move so descriptive like an adjective I got a vandetta against people who patent it being negative when you should be getting after it. I got facts over facts over tracks. Isn't that spitting Slow, speaking fast I could roast, I could gas Think I'm okay, alas But I don't know if that can erase all the past and the pettiness A reflection of the emptiness. Hilarious. You think you're worth my time? You're delirious, mysterious because you are behind a fake exterior inferior. You know I'll always be a bit superior. Get off of me. This ain't.

[C]

It's the turn. It's the. And the turn.

[A]

And the hair.

[C]

I love him.

[A]

That is Jordan Lucas, everybody. And he is one of my favorite human beings.

[C]

He's fabulous. Fabulous, fabulous, fabulous.

[A]

All right, everybody, that's your moxy moment. Thank you. Nothing new to report. And thanks to the networks for not carrying it. We really appreciate it.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Everybody, we'll see you soon. I'm Allison Gill.

[C]

I'm Dana Goldberg. And that was Beans Talk.

[D]

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[E]

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