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Tuesday, July 29th, 2025 Today, Senators Durbin and Whitehouse demand tapes of Todd Blanche’s witness tampering meeting with Ghislaine Maxwell; a Texas man sues a California doctor testing a new angle to crack down on abortion pills; another federal judge blocks the Trump administrations attempts to defund Planned Parenthood; Democrat Roy Cooper launches a bid for the North Carolina Senate seat while Republican Mike Collins throws his hat in the ring to challenge Ossoff in Georgi;, Lauren Boebert’s son has been charged with child abuse; Doctor Phil’s anti-woke network files for bankruptcy; in a landmark ruling a Ukrainian court recognizes a same sex couple as family; and Allison and Dana deliver the good news.
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Allison Gill
MSW Media. Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Tuesday, July 29, 2025. Today, Senators Durbin and White House demand the tapes of Todd Blanche's witness tampering meeting with Ghislaine Maxwell. A Texas man is suing a California doctor, testing a new angle to crack down on abortion pills in the state. Another federal judge blocks the Trump administration's attempt to defund Planned Parenthood. Democrat Roy Cooper launches a bid for the North Carolina Senate seat while Republican Mike Collins throws his hat in the ring to challenge Jon Ossoff. In Georgia, Lauren Boebert's son has been charged with child abuse. Dr. Phil's anti woke network has filed for bankruptcy. And in a landmark ruling, a Ukrainian court recognizes a same sex couple as a family. I'm Allison Gill.
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Dana Goldberg
And I'm Dana Goldberg.
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Allison Gill
Hello, Dana.
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Dana Goldberg
Hello my friend.
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Allison Gill
I'm so excited because later in the show we get to talk to Charlotte Clymer.
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Dana Goldberg
Woo hoo. She's one of my favorite people. I mean, y' all just get on board. Go to follow the substat. You're gonna understand. You just have to go experience it for yourself. Charlotte's incredible. I'm glad we have her.
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Allison Gill
Yes. And she has written like 16 essays, 17 essays, something in the last month or something like that. And you know, we're gonna talk politics in this show. But she has a really great essay about the Titanic movie that you absolutely have to read. And I guess it is political because it has to do with misogyny, but you definitely wanna subscribe to her substack. We'll talk to her later in the show. Also, CBS says Roy Cooper, as we know, the former Democratic governor of North Carolina officially launched his Senate bid.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, amazing.
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Allison Gill
For Republican Senator Thom Tillis's open seat in 2026 on Monday. As for the Republicans pick, multiple sources tell ABC News that RNC chair Michael Watley is planning to launch a bid after being asked directly by Trump to run. And you might say what I said, excuse me, who? Yeah, Michael Watley.
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Dana Goldberg
I mean, North Carolina knows Roy Cooper. This is, I'm hoping a landslide.
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Allison Gill
I hope so too. But yeah, Michael, what? The RNC chair with Lara Trump member. He's kind of just a puppet there to make sure they can get all that Guam Republican money in there.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. And speaking of the Senate, we've got Rep. Mike Collins, who's that Republican in Georgia on Monday announcing his bid for Senate next year's midterms. He's joining a now contested GOP primary of hopefuls attempting to, of course, unseat Senator John Ossoff, our Democrat, who we love. And I quote, we need a senator who works for Georgia, not the California crazies or New York nutjobs. I wonder how long they workshop that quote. That's from Collins. He said that in an announcement posted on Twitter and in a video posted on Twitter to Collins's campaign account at Team Overhaul Georgia. And by the way, they misspell the word Georgia. I can't.
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Allison Gill
That just about sums it up.
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Dana Goldberg
It really does. My God.
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Allison Gill
All right. And we're going to talk to Charlotte about Roy Cooper, and I can't wait to get to that. But first, we have to hit the hot notes. Hot notes. All right, first up from the time, Senator Richard Durbin. That's Dick of Illinois. The the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee on Monday demanded all recordings and transcripts of the July 24th and 25th Justice Department interviews. I'm putting interviews and quotes because I think it's witness tampering with Ghislaine Maxwell, longtime partner of Jeffrey Epstein, who's serving a 20 year sentence for sex trafficking. She raped kids is what she did. In a letter to Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, who conducted the interviews, Mr. Durbin also demanded the Justice Department commit to offering no pardon or commutation of Maxwell's sentence in exchange for information, citing, quote, serious question about the potential for a corrupt bargain between the Trump administration and Ghislaine Maxwell. The letter, a copy of which was obtained by the Times, was co signed by Senator Whitehouse, Democrat of Rhode island, who also sits on the judiciary. Because Democrats are in the minority and have no subpoena power, their demands carry little weight with Mr. Blanche. But the letter reflected how Democrats are trying to keep pressure on the Trump administration on an issue that has, at least for now, cleaved from the President a portion of his typically loyal MAGA base that is demanding a release of the files that the administration has refused to make public in a letter. In this particular letter, I should say Mr. Durbin noted that the meetings between Blanche and Maxwell last week were highly unusual. That's putting it lightly. Such interviews would typically be conducted by line prosecutors more familiar with the details of the case and more able to determine on the spot if Maxwell was lying. That's what he noted in his letter. But they fired the line prosecutor in this case. Yep, Maureen Comey. And they also didn't have an FBI agent sitting in on this, which is also something that doesn't happen that Mr. Blanche himself conducted such interviews. Mr. Durbin writes led him and Mr. Whitehouse to believe that the meetings were another tactic to distract from the DOJ's failure to fulfill Attorney General Bondi's commitment that the American people would see the full Epstein files. Durbin also wrote that there were serious concerns that Maxwell may provide false information.
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Dana Goldberg
Why would they think that? Maybe because she's lied under oath before.
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Allison Gill
Or selectively withhold information in return for a pardon or a sentence commutation. So I'm really glad that even though they can't do much here because they don't have subpoena power and they aren't in the majority, they're putting it in writing, right, that this is a corrupt bargain for a pardon. Now, in the letter, the senators also demanded the names and titles of everyone present during the two days of the interviews with Maxwell. And they questioned why the Justice Department believed she would be truthful when the Trump administration previously argued in court about her willingness to brazenly lie under oath about her conduct. They also requested the complete terms of an offer of limited immunity that was made to Ms. Maxwell to secure her cooperation in the interviews. And they demanded the Microsoft SharePoint online collaborative file that Mr. Blanche's office reportedly maintained to log mention of Mr. Trump in the Epstein related records that have been reviewed by the Justice Department and the FBI. And by the way, I have also put in a FOIA request for that master file. And the reason that he knows that there's a master file is either because of the whistleblower that came and spoke to Mr. Durbin's office or the sources that I reported out. I think I'm so far the only one that is still reporting that there is a master Excel spreadsheet on a SharePoint drive with all of the Trump mentions. Now, not only Dana have I FOIA that, but I also FOIA the video trainings that live on that SharePoint that are embedded in PowerPoint presentations that instruct FBI analysts on how to flag Trump mentions in the Epstein files. So I've got a FOIA out for all that. It's unlikely that Durbin and White House will receive any of that information. But Democrats are eager to call for transparency and force the administration to explain why it's unwilling to offer it. Now, unlike Senator Durbin, if I don't get that list of Trump mentions in the Excel spreadsheet, I can sue in federal court. And I plan on it.
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Dana Goldberg
Nice quote.
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Allison Gill
The victims and survivors of Jeffrey Epstein have been repeatedly let down by the criminal justice system. That's what the letter states. And that's an understatement. Rather than engaging in this elaborate ruse, DOJ should simply release the Epstein files as Attorney General Bondi promised to do.
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Dana Goldberg
Thank you so much, Allison. This next story is from the Texas Trib. Galveston man is suing a California doctor for allegedly providing his girlfriend with abortion inducing drugs. The latest effort to test Texas's anti abortion laws against blue states protections for abortion providers. Unlike other ongoing legal challenges in state court, the suit was filed in federal court, which opens up a new avenue to stress test these so called, quote, shield laws. This is what legal experts are saying. After the overturn of Roe v. Wade, as red states like Texas were banning abortions, blue states passed these laws to protect abortion providers who mail medications into restrictive states. And I quote, this is one of many pronged strategy to test these shield laws in as many ways as possible. This is from Rachel Robush, the dean of Temple Law School and an expert on shield law. She went on to say about whether this case will go to the way they're expecting. That's a lot we don't know yet. Now, Jonathan Mitchell, a prominent anti abortion lawyer who helped design Texas's abortion laws, he brought the suit on behalf of his client, Jerry Rodriguez, seeking damages as well as an injunction on behalf of, and I quote, all current and future fathers of unborn children in the United States. The complaint filed Sunday accused Mr. Remy Couteau, I think so, of mailing abortion pills to Rodriguez's girlfriend. And obviously this is the doctor we're talking about. In September of 2024, she allegedly used the medication to terminate a pregnancy that month and later terminated a second pregnancy. Rodriguez says those abortions happened at the direction of his girlfriend's estranged husband. Okay. She's currently pregnant, the suit says, and Rodriguez fears that the husband will again pressure her to kill Rodriguez's unborn child and obtain abortion pills from Couteau to commit the murder. That's a quote, not my words. You know how we refer to fetuses here on this show? A man who answered the phone at Couteau's office said the doctor had no comment before hanging up. Rodriguez is asking a judge to award him at least $75,000 in damages against Couteau for causing the, quote, wrongful death of his unborn child. The lawsuit also alleges Couteau is in violation of the Comstock Act.
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Allison Gill
There it is.
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Dana Goldberg
Yep. An 18th century anti obscenity law. The Comstock act has not been enforced for more than 100 years with some legal experts arguing it's entirely unenforceable as a result, while others, including Mitchell, argue it can be used to federally criminalize mailing abortion pills.
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Allison Gill
Well, if they're going to reenact the Comstock Act, I think it should apply to Ryan Walters as well. Yeah. By the way, I don't think they should. And the Comstock act is stupid. And some better news from the Associated Press. A federal judge on Monday ruled that Planned Parenthood clinics nationwide must continue to be reimbursed for Medicaid funding as the nation's largest abortion provider fights President Donald Trump's administration over efforts to defund the organization in his signature tax legislation. And I really don't like that. The Associated Press refers to Planned Parenthood as the nation's largest abortion provider in the same sentence with reimbursed for Medicaid funding.
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Dana Goldberg
Agreed.
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Allison Gill
Hmm. Because they aren't reimbursed for that at Planned Parenthood. The new order replaces a previous edict handed down by Judge Indira Talwani in Boston last week. We talked about it. Talwani initially granted a preliminary injunction specifically blocking the government from cutting Medicaid payments to Planned Parenthood members that didn't provide abortion care or didn't meet the threshold of at least $800,000 in Medicaid reimbursements in a given year. And so she's turned this preliminary injunction into a permanent one. Quote, patients are likely to suffer adverse health consequences where care is disrupted or unavailable. That's what she wrote in the Monday order. In particular, restricting members ability to provide healthcare services threatens an increase in unintended pregnancies and attendant complications because of reduced access to effective contraceptives and an increase in undiagnosed and untreated STIs. In a lawsuit, Planned Parenthood had argued that they'd be at risk of closing nearly 200 clinics in 24 states if they're cut off from Medicaid funding. They estimated this would result in more than a million patients losing care. Quote, we're suing the Trump administration over this targeted attack on Planned Parenthood health centers and the patients who rely on them for care. That's what Planned Parenthood's President and CEO, Alexis McGill Johnson said in a statement on Monday. Quote, this case is about making sure the patients who use Medicaid as their insurance to get birth control, cancer screenings and STI testing and treatment can continue to do so at their local Planned Parenthood health center. And we will make that clear in court.
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Dana Goldberg
Thank you so much, Allison. Now this next one, some good news. This is from Kiev, Kiev Independent, actually a District Court in Kyiv has formally recognized a same sex couple as a family, marking the first legal precedent of its kind in Ukraine. Human rights organization Insight LGBTQ. That's what they announced on July 3rd. Ukraine does not currently recognize same sex marriages or partnerships in this court ruling may serve as a critical legal milestone in expanding those rights for LGBTQ families. The case involves Zorian Kiss, first Secretary of Ukraine's Embassy in Israel, and his partner Timur Levchuk, who have lived together, by the way, since 2013 and were married in the United States in 2021. The court ruled on June 10 that their relationship constitutes a de facto marriage, establishing them as a family under Ukrainian law. The ruling comes after Ukrainian's Foreign minister refused to acknowledge Lovechuck as Keyes family member, denying him spousal rights to accompany Keyes on his diplomatic posting in Israel. His response? The couple filed a legal complaint in September of 2024. In its decision, the court cited both Ukrainian constitution and precedents from the European Court of Human Rights, which is the echr. Both of those require states to ensure legal recognition and protection for same sex families. So that is a wonderful thing that has happened. And Allison's about to follow it up with some horrifying news from the Bobert family.
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Allison Gill
Is there anything but horrifying news from the Bobert family if we're being honest. But anyway, that is such good news Dana. I'm so glad to hear that because that sets a very this is like one step to recognizing all same sex marriage in Ukraine as as family. So very, very good news. And yeah, just content warning because you have to hear about it from the Independent Rep. Lauren Boebert's son has been charged with child abuse following an incident involving her grandson that she described as a miscommunication. So real mama bear energy here protecting her grandson. Tyler Boebert, who's 20, the eldest son of the MAGA congresswoman, was cited for criminal negligence where no death or injury occurred, which is a misdemeanor for the July 11 incident. And that's according to the Windsor Police Department records obtained by Denver Westward. Authorities have not yet shared details about the incident, which the 38 year old congresswoman brushed off as a miscommunication on monitoring my young grandson that recently led to him getting out of the house.
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Dana Goldberg
What?
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Allison Gill
In a statement, the congresswoman described her son's legal trouble as a one time incident. One time incident. No it's not. This is not the first run in with the law for the congresswoman's 20 year old son whose girlfriend Became pregnant with his child when he was just 17 years old. In September of 2022, Tyler Bobert flipped his father's SUV into a creek, leaving the person in his passenger seat with multiple concussions and a severely lacerated hand. He was ticketed for careless driving. The case was eventually dropped down to defective vehicle for headlights ticket under a plea deal. Okay. Then in January 2024, he called the police to report that his father Jason was assaulting him, leading to his arrest. Now, during the incident, Jason allegedly, quote, pushed Tyler to the ground and pushed his thumb into his mouth, according to the arrest affidavit. A month later, Tyler was slapped with more than a dozen felony charges. Although this new misdemeanor is a one time thing. A dozen felony charges for a series of thefts from vehicles and for using stolen credit cards at local gas stations.
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Dana Goldberg
Just a fine.
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Allison Gill
Upstanding citizen Tyler Boebert pled guilty last October to a single charge of attempting to commit identity theft and was given a two year deferred judgment allowing his felony to be cleared from his record after completing his 24 month probation. So rap sheet on this guy is a mile long, but he just keeps getting off with slaps on the wrist. He's due in a Weld county court on September 8th. We'll see what happens.
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Dana Goldberg
Thanks so much, Allison. We've got one from The Independent. Seems Dr. Phil McGraw, you know Dr. Phil. Thanks for that one, Oprah. Not your fault, but you know, we're sorry, he's here. He's that conservative leaning cable network, Merritt Street Media, and it's filing for bankruptcy barely a year after its launch and also suing its distribution partner Trinity Broadcasting for a breach of contract.
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Allison Gill
Trinity. Trinity Broadcasting, really, In its lawsuit against.
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Dana Goldberg
The Christian broadcaster Merit street alleged that Trinity, and I quote, reneged on its obligations and abused its position as the controlled shareholder of Merritt street, leaving the upstart channel with over 100 million dol in debt. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
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Allison Gill
Oh, so it's not because his show sucks. No, it's because the Trinity Christian Broadcasting Network reneged on what obligations to make you better at TV.
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Dana Goldberg
The stories of Dr. Phil and what he did on his show are horrifying. Following a two decade run as a syndicated daytime talk show host, McGraw announced in late 2023 that he was starting up his own multiplatform media company, which would include a cable television channel featuring who Dr. Phil Primetime program as its flagship, Claiming that Merritt street would become, and I quote, one of the most widely distributed Startup networks in modern history. The company revealed before its official launch that it was partnering with TBN. Besides McGraw's week night show, the channel would focus on true crime and cultural programming and boost a lineup of familiar TV personalities. Like who? Nancy Grace, Steve Harvey. Interesting. And Bear Grylls. Do you know Bear Grylls?
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Allison Gill
Yeah. Isn't he like the survivalist guy that goes out into the nature and eats live animals? And Bear Grylls? Me neither. I think that's right.
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Dana Goldberg
All right. After officially launching, by the way, in April 2024, the network soon found itself in financial turmoil pretty quickly. Just months after McGraw's high profile and fawning primetime interview. With who? Donald Trump. Merritt street laid off roughly 40 employees in August of last year, representing one third of its total staff. And just last month, amid Dr. Phil Show's summer hiatus. Okay, that's what we're calling it. You're like, it was just a break. No, you broke up. Another 40 staffers were given the pink slip. So it would now appear, though, that it was due to more than just McGraw's Primetime program taking a break. Dr. Phil, meanwhile, has made headlines in recent months for embedding himself with ICE agents for raids amid the Trump administration's immigration crackdowns in large American cities. After joining immigration enforcement for ride alongs in Chicago in January, with footage of migrant arrests being used for content for merit, the network boasted that McGraw, Mr. McGraw and his camera crew got, and I quote, firsthand look at the targeted operations in Los Angeles that led to fiery protests and Trump mobilizing the National Guard. Oh, my, what a opportunist and a douchebag.
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Allison Gill
Yeah. And speaking of those LA protests, you really got to listen to the latest Unjustified podcast. I know I said this yesterday, but Andy and I talk about the fact that Trump's prosecutor, U.S. attorney in Los Angeles, has tried to get 38 people indicted by grand juries. And like, he's failing miserably. And no one's indicting any of the protesters. And so it's, it's pretty, it's pretty fascinating. And, and everybody's really mad. Like, why won't the grand juries indict these protesters?
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Dana Goldberg
It's.
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Allison Gill
Well, first of all, some of the ICE agents lied. Their cases are full of holes. There weren't assaults and the protests were peaceful. Yeah, maybe. Anyway, definitely check that out. And I think it's important to note that our media company, MSW Media, has lasted seven times longer than Dr. Phil's.
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Dana Goldberg
I love that we're almost measuring it in Scaramucci's. What a douche. God. Dr. Phil. Hmm.
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Allison Gill
Yeah. Fuck that guy. All right, on that note, time for some good trouble.
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Dana Goldberg
What are you guys doing?
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Allison Gill
Getting into trouble. All right, this is from a listener. Dana, your favorite clinical psychologist, John Gartner and Harry Siegel discussed the implications of sexual perpetrators in power with the ever inspiring Matthew Diddy, who's a trauma expert and a therapist and an educator on their latest podcast. And Mr. Diddy said, quote, I know we don't want to talk about it, but we're all going to have to start practicing talking about it. And I'm curious what you think. I've been doing a thing. It's a little devious. He said, I'm ready to. I'm ready to come out. It was me. I did this. And if you want to know what I've been talking about, I've been driving by homes that have Trump signs writing down their addresses and sending them letters anonymously saying that I'm very concerned about their support for a pedophile. And I really hope they could clarify for the sake of the safety of the women and children in the neighborhood.
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Dana Goldberg
Love this.
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Allison Gill
So there you go. If you, if, if you feel like you want to do this anonymously, send letters to addresses of people with Trump signs and MAGA signs in their yard and just tell them you're very concerned about the children and the women in the neighborhood that they're supporting a pedophile.
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Dana Goldberg
So there you have it.
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Allison Gill
Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Diddy, and thank you to our listener and everybody. Stick around. You do not want to miss this discussion with Charlotte Clymer. We'll be right back after these messages. We'll be right back. Hey, everybody, it's ag. There's nothing like showing up to a party with a bottle of wine that actually impresses people. No more grocery store roulette for me. I've been getting all my bottles from Naked Wines. I love Naked Wines. It's my favorite subscription service. Naked Wines is a service that directly connects you with the world's finest independent winemaker so you can get award winning wine delivered right to your door. Go to nakedwines.com dailybeans. Use promo code dailybeans for the code and the password, and you will get the incredible deal of six bottles for just $39.99. Now, here's the thing. I am not a wine expert, but I love wine. And Naked Wines makes me feel like I know what I'm talking about, which is kind of cool. I rate each wine I Get. And somehow the next box is even better than the one before. Sometimes a dry red is exactly what I'm looking for. And I found one I love in the Christian Vallejo Chile Cabernet Sauv. It's a 2020 grape. It's fresh, it's vivacious. It is a perfect wine for the back porch and a good book, which is, like, one of my favorite things to do at sunset. Now, they've been around for, like, 15 years backing real winemakers instead of big brands and box stores. Over 90 independent winemakers get support from Naked Wines so they can focus on making amazing wine. And there's no membership fee. There's no commitment. There's no contract. It's just good wine delivered straight to your door for way less than you'd expect. So now's the time to join the naked wines community. Head to nakedwines.com dailybeans Click enter voucher. Put in my code dailybeans all one word for both the code and the password. And you get six bottles of wine for just 39.99, with shipping included. That's a hundred dollars off your first six bottles. That's nakedwines.com DailyBeans and use code and password DailyBeans for six bottles for 39.99. Again, six bottles of wine, everybody, for $39.99. Head to nakedwines.comDailyBeans and use code DailyBeans for the code and the password. You'll be glad you did. Hey, everybody. Welcome back. I'm so honored today, and I know Dana is too, to be joined.
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Dana Goldberg
Always join the interviews. But when Allison says, hey, are you available today? I said, absolutely, yes, I am.
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Allison Gill
Yes. Because one of my favorite authors, one of my favorite essayists and activists and just all around amazing people is here. Joining us on the Daily Beans, it is Charlotte Clymer. Hi, Charlotte. How are you?
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C
Hey, ladies. Oh, my God. Think about all the history between the three of us. My goodness.
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Dana Goldberg
Amazing. It's my favorite threesome. It might be my only threesome. It's my favorite threesome this year.
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Allison Gill
For me, it's probably not Ryan Walters's favorite threesome, though.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, man.
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C
Well, we don't know. We don't. You know, you never know.
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Allison Gill
Let's start there. Because you wrote one of the best pieces of news on this. We covered it yesterday on the Daily Beans, Charlotte. And over on Charlotte's Web Thoughts. It's your. Your substack, which is an incredible substack. Everyone should subscribe. You wrote about Ryan Walters Bible Thumping just all around, total, complete dickhead with porn in his office. And I loved your take on it, so talk a little bit about that.
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C
Well, okay, so this guy is easily the biggest culture warrior among state officials in the country, and that's saying something for the Republican Party at the moment. He came blazing in as the superintendent of public instruction for Oklahoma public schools, and from pretty much day one, he has made culture war issues his top priority. Now, meanwhile, Oklahoma is, like, in the bottom five states for public schools across the board. Fourth grade meeting, fourth grade math, eighth grade reading, eighth grade math. Just across the board. Every educational survey says that Oklahoma public schools are in really bad shape. And so you'd figure that this guy who is currently the superintendent of public instruction and before that was the Secretary of Education for Oklahoma would have been more focused on that over the past five years. Instead, he's doing things like trying to ban the Kite Runner from public school libraries. He's accusing librarians of trying to force pornography on the shelves in public schools. He got an elementary school principal to resign because the principal was performing as a drag queen in his off time away from kids. Privately, I mean, you know, just across the board and. Oh, my God. And I cannot believe we have to mention this. He issued a mandate to have a King James version Bible put in every classroom in every public school in the state of Oklahoma. And on top of that, it can't be any King James version Bible.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, no, no. It was made by who?
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C
Oh, Lee Greenwood. And I'm sure that some of y' all's listeners are thinking, wait, the Lee Greenwood? Yes, the Lee Greenwood. The guy who wrote God Bless the usa.
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Allison Gill
I'd like to be an American.
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Dana Goldberg
We're.
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Allison Gill
At least I know when I was in the military in the 90s, they picked up the. Played that at us every day in bootkin basic training. And I'm like, oh, my God, I.
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Dana Goldberg
Love that you just said they played that at us, which is a perfect description of the song.
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Allison Gill
It is.
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C
It violates the Geneva Convention at this point. I think it does. And by the way, Greenwood has made different versions for other countries. Did y' all know that?
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Allison Gill
He has. Yeah.
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Dana Goldberg
No, I did not.
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C
I did know that he released. He released a Canadian version of that song.
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Allison Gill
I'm proud to be a Canadian.
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C
I think he released a couple other versions, too. I mean, the guy is just a complete opportunistic, but whatever. So he published his King James version or his version of the King James version Bible, and Trump endorsed it, and Trump gets royalties. So Ryan Walters, on top of asking that a copy of the King James Bible be put in every classroom, says that it must be this one. It must be the Lee Greenwood branded. Trump endorsed King James Bible, $70, made.
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Allison Gill
In China, King James Bible, $3 million.
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C
He asks for Oklahoma Public Schools to carry this out. So across the board, the guy is just, you know, the most. Pick me. Trump supporting right wing extremist, faux Christian nonsense, bullshit artist. But then this week, it's revealed. On Thursday, in an executive session for the State Board of Education, two board members are sitting there in the audience listening to Mr. Walters drone on and on, as I'm sure he does, and they notice there's pornography playing on a television screen next to his desk in his office. Now, from their vantage point, they were the only two ones who saw it. And they're immediately like, hey, there's porn.
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Dana Goldberg
I would like to play the part of one of these women where she was like, is that a nipple? Is that pubic hair? Are those women naked?
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C
Is that a bodysuit?
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Dana Goldberg
Get that off the screen. What are we watching?
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C
The one board member, she said she told the reporter that she thought they were bodysuits at first.
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Allison Gill
Like, that's how Carson.
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C
Yeah, that's how aggressively she was trying to rationalize what she was seeing. Like, it can't be porn, right? I mean, these must. This must be some random weird comedy video with two women wearing bodysuits or something. You know, something's going on.
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Allison Gill
Adam and Eve type of a Bible show.
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Dana Goldberg
An even Eve type of a Bible show.
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C
You know, we gotta show what's wrong for science. Right? Or for the good Lord. We have to show some lesbian sex. So, I mean, it's just crazy. They alert Mr. Walters, and he, for his part, says, what are you talking about? And then he looked behind him, apparently, and saw what was playing on the television screen, realized what had happened, although we don't know the full details yet of how that occurred. We can assume, but we don't for sure know. And then he just figures out a way to turns it off and calmly comes back and continues the meeting like nothing happened.
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Dana Goldberg
Yep. Banana pants.
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Allison Gill
What? No.
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Dana Goldberg
Hey.
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Allison Gill
Hands in the air. Like, no, no, no, no. What? How did that happen? It was just. It's ridiculous.
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C
This isn't my. This isn't even my tv. It's not even my office. What are you talking. I have no idea.
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Allison Gill
I'm not even Mr. Walters. It's, you know, who knows?
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Dana Goldberg
It was for those pesky kids.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, those meddling everyone.
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Dana Goldberg
I would have gotten.
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C
It wasn't for the. A Kite Runner.
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Allison Gill
Right, right. And now he's under investigation, though. I bet when he heard he was facing a probe, he got really excited for a second, but then realized that it was probably the. Not the kind of probe he was hoping for.
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C
Oh, Lord.
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Allison Gill
So we, we, we had that this week.
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C
We had that this week. And, you know, fortunately, Republican leadership of the Oklahoma State Senate, which is overwhelmingly Republican, are also embarrassed and mortified by this. Hard to say what's going to happen next. You know, I imagine Oklahoma Republicans would really love to sweep this under the rug as quickly as possible, but it's kind of hard to do when, you know, you have two Republican appointed board members who are crying foul. So who knows? You know, Mr. Walters went from the past two years of clearly trying to pitch himself as Trump's Secretary of Education, and then he got passed over for that position, and now he may be facing, you know, resignation in the near future. We don't know.
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Dana Goldberg
Nothing would make me happier in this moment. And I say that even knowing what's going on in the world, because I think this is much more realistic, like, this could actually happen sooner. So I would love to see him be out of a job. I think it's up for reelection next year. Is that right?
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C
Oh, that's right. Yep.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, they'll probably run like Riley Gaines or something. I don't. Who knows?
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C
But she'll come in fifth.
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Allison Gill
She'll come in fifth. She'll tie for fifth.
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Dana Goldberg
I had to back away from the mic because that was so funny and perfectly timed.
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Allison Gill
That was a good one.
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C
Yeah.
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Allison Gill
So now let's move on to something else, because today, today, thank you, Donald Trump, for talking about the Epstein files for another half an hour or whatever he did during that press conference. He won't shut up. I. I don't know if he's talking to a PR firm on how to handle a crisis, but he's handling it exactly backwards and wrong, which is great for everyone, you know, in the free world, but, you know, obviously terrible for him, but he will not shut up about it. And today he said, I didn't have the privilege of visiting Epstein's island. And I imagine he was trying to be sarcastic or I'm not sure, but I just want to think. I just want to put that on a loop. I just want to put that on a loop in every Dem ad from now until forever.
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Dana Goldberg
But then he went on to say, the problem with Epstein is that Epstein's. Not that he was raping girls, not that he was Sex trafficking girls, that he stole employees from Donald Trump, and that's when Donald Trump kicked him out of his club.
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C
He stole a different kind of chattel.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah, yeah, that.
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C
That was. That was where he went wrong. I can. I can. I can accept sex trafficking, but I draw the line at, you know, oh, how dare you. Sniping him, stealing my indentured labor, you know, but, you know, he also said that he had rejected an invitation to the island. Not just that he hadn't gone, but that he had declined an invitation. It was one of his proudest moments, that's what he said. And, you know, the implication there seems to be that he knew what was going on there, and so he decided not to go because it made him uncomfortable, and that's why he didn't want to go. So if he knew what was going on there, why in the hell.
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Dana Goldberg
Why didn't he report it, say something? Either way, you're a monster.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, yeah, well, because, you know, we share wonderful secrets. He admitted to it in a letter.
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C
So I'll tell you what's so fascinating about this whole thing is, you know, for eight years, we have seen God, someday someone's going to chronicle every single scandal or every single gaffe or whatever that have come out of this man's mouth over the last eight years. But this is the first time when he truly does seem lost. He doesn't seem to know how to get out of this one, because every other time, even with the impeachments, he was able to kind of triangulate, distract people, you know, shift the attention of corporate media or legacy media, which is not that hard to do, apparently, as we've discovered. But, you know, he. He was able to do it. And this time, he just doesn't seem to be able to unscrew himself.
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Allison Gill
No. Right. Criminal indictments don't stick. And I think the reason is. And this is just my opinion on this, is that MAGA is upset, and that's when the media grabs onto him. MAGA gave the corporate media the permission structure to go after this full bore, whether it was Murdoch or Thiel or Vance or just MAGA in general. Once maga's upset with Donald Trump, oh, then the corporate media can come in and grab onto this and not let go. If the Dem. If it's just the Democrats or judges or the law that's upset with Donald Trump, fuck it. It doesn't matter. But when, Matt, when MAGA is upset, I think that gives the oligarchs who run the media pause. Right. And they and they need a. They need a plan, they need an escape route. They need to figure stuff out. They need to fly JD Vance out to Montana to meet with the Murdochs or whatever. So I think that's why this issue isn't going away, is because it's not the Democrats yelling about it. I mean, we are, and. But, you know, and we like to take credit for this not going away, but Trump won't shut up about it.
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C
That's right. I mean, he called him Stu. He. What did he. What did he say? He didn't want the support of. Of the MAGA base. Yeah, the losers who were criticizing him over this. I mean, you know, the man is abysmally incompetent on this topic. And I, I gotta say, and again, you know, not to be, but, God, legacy media is just so thoroughly embarrassing. I mean, just completely embarrassing. You know, there's some great reporters doing amazing work at the New York Times and a couple other outlets, and I respect them. But on the whole, you know, on balance, legacy media has never been more pathetic than they've been this year.
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Allison Gill
That's like fantasy for me. It's like fantasy baseball or like, when I was a kid, I didn't follow teams necessarily. I followed players like, I love Nolan Ryan and, you know, specific players. And that's kind of how I feel about the media. There are certain reporters for, you know, outlets that run the gamut from corporate to independent. And I follow those reporters because I trust in their reporting and I trust in their sources, and I know they're not just there for access. You know what I mean?
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Dana Goldberg
So that's a great way to say that.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, that's kind of how I. I feel about media in general. It's like fantasy baseball to me.
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Dana Goldberg
I love that. I don't love. I didn't love the Dallas Cowboys, but I'd like Johnston. And I didn't love the Dallas Cowboys, but I liked Evan Smith. That's right, Novacek. But, yeah, as a whole, and no offense to Dallas Cowboys, but, you know, they've had some sketchy shit over the years. And the Cowboys fans, I was Dallas, Honestly, I was Dallas and Denver because I grew up in New Mexico. We didn't have a pro football team, so I either went to the right or above. Now it's either Denver or Dallas.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, nice. Let's do one. Well, maybe. Maybe two other things. I want to talk really quick about Roy Cooper, who has announced his bid for Senate. And I'm very happy about this. I know you're very Happy about this. I was wondering if you could explain why this is such a great thing for North Carolina.
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C
Roy Cooper is just exceptionally gifted. He. He has incredibly attuned communications with the people in North Carolina. They know him, they love him, they respect him. They feel like he's on their side, which, you know. And again, I'm a proud Democrat. I will go ride or die for the Democratic Party. But let's face it, a lot of Americans don't really feel like a number of their Democratic leaders are on their side right now, or at least seeing their struggles with Roy Cooper. North Carolinians look at him and say, that's our guy. I mean, we basically just won the Senate seat for North Carolina. And I know I'm not supposed to say that. I know I'm supposed to say that it's important everyone get out and vote. And that's true. And yes, we need to work hard and canvass every door, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But if we do what we need to do, Roy Cooper is going to be a Democratic pickup for the Senate next year. So this is extremely good news. I am over the moon. There was, there was some time there when we weren't even sure that Roy Cooper was going to run for the seat and that, you know, we were going to have to rely on a plucky Democrat to come in and, you know, try to get this, try to rest this seat away from Republicans. But now we have Roy Cooper, who is the, who is the superman of North Carolina Democratic politics. So we just won. We're good to go for this seat.
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Dana Goldberg
Your mouth to goddess's ears. Whoever's listening, hopefully it's the Electra in the voters because we really need this. But. But I hope you're right. It would be a beautiful thing to see. He's done wonderful things for the state when he was in his other position. So.
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C
And by the way, the North Carolina Democratic Party is fantastic. They really are. Ms. Clayton, who is the chair of the North Carolina Democratic Party. I think she's 26.
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Allison Gill
If I'm not.
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Dana Goldberg
She's amazing. I think she spoke at the last HRC gala. She is a young spitfire, brilliant, smart, wonderful woman, dynamo.
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C
She is. She is cut from the old school cloth. Back when you had, you know, political operatives, their mid to late twenties who had their shit together and knew what they were doing. And at that level, I mean, I mean, we have plenty of organizers in their 20s who are not being promoted and given the responsibility they deserve. But she was, and she has done Some remarkable things with it. I think that part, that state party is so adept. Really, really works hard, knows what they're doing. And now they have the dream candidate to get into that senate seat. So I think we're all pretty happy.
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Allison Gill
26, Michael. When I was 26, I think I was selling phones at a kiosk in a mall. Like, this is amazing. These brilliant, brilliant people who are.
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Dana Goldberg
I was bartending at an Applebee's. I don't like to brag, but I was.
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Allison Gill
I mean, yeah, amazing.
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Dana Goldberg
That's.
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C
That's just. That's just great fodder for writing, though. I mean, that's a whole book of essays.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, it is, Trust me. The story. Stories, Charlotte. The stabbings and the bar fights. And this was in like an affluent middle to upper class area of Albuquerque. We called it the Northeast Whites, and it was the Northeast Heights. And I mean, the stories that I have. Don't worry. I'm writing an A show for our Off Broadway. It's all in there.
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Allison Gill
Oh, excellent. I cannot wait to see it. Because people in those kinds of areas getting shitty at an Applebee's.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, that's the best.
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Allison Gill
I mean, the stories. The stories, Leslie.
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C
At the Applebee's.
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Allison Gill
Well, thank you, Charlotte. It's always truly an honor to talk to you. And I'm so, so grateful that to. To. To just to be able to call you friend and colleague. So everybody must go and subscribe to Charlotte's web thoughts over on her substack. And I appreciate your time today.
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C
Alison, Dana, my angels. I adore you both. I love you both.
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Dana Goldberg
It's always nice to see you. Yes. Love, back at you. Take care of yourself. You're doing a lot of. Alison. I say the same to you. The amount of work they're doing on their substacks and writing and putting things out there, you know, Charlotte and I met when she was the rapid response director for the Human Rights Campaign. I believe that's when we met. That's right. And you're just incredible. You both are. And you're doing exactly what we need and informing the people about what's really going on. So definitely subscribe to both of their substacks. I could never. I don't believe I could write as well as either of them do. They're phenomenal. So kudos to you both. I tell the jokes. I tell the jokes.
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C
That's writing, my friend.
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Allison Gill
That's writing. They don't just cut. They don't just happen. They don't just spontaneously.
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C
Your humility has no currency here.
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Dana Goldberg
How dare you. We are ending this call.
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Allison Gill
All right, with that, everybody, please stick around. We'll be right back with the good news. All right, everybody, welcome back. It's time for the good news. Who likes good news?
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C
Everyone?
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Allison Gill
Then good news, everyone. And if you have any good news, confessions, corrections, any small little awesome thing that happened to you this week, I'll tell you mine in a minute. But really, anything counts as good news. We need to microdose hope, right, like we've been saying. So if you have like a shout out to a loved one or a kid or a, you know, a spouse or yourself self shout outs or amazing toot your own horn, we want to hear it. Talk about your small business. Or maybe a small business in your area that could use a boost, a shout out to a government program that's helped you or a loved one, or just a government program in general that you think has helped a bunch of people that you really want to spotlight. Or maybe there's a great nonprofit in your area that really needs some help or just you want to shine a light on them, let us know about it. We will talk about them and we will see if we can help boost their profile. Send it all to us@dailybeanspod.com Click on Contact and to get your submission on the air, you just got to pay your podpat tariff, which really means literally attach a photo of anything within reason. No Ryan Walters photos, please. No, but seriously, your pet. If you want us to guess the breeds of your shelter pup, we'll try to do that. We're not very good, but we love, we love guessing. If you don't have a pet, an adoptable pet in your area, just grab any random animal photo off the Internet. We love bird watching pictures, which can be an actual bird, or you and your friends and family flipping the bird to trump or musk if you don't have any of that. Family photos, Awkward family photos. Weird Santa and Easter bunny photos are always fun. Your happy place, maybe your garden. Show us what herbs and spices you're growing with. Just really anything and whatever makes you happy. Send it to us dailybeanspod.com and click on contact.
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Dana Goldberg
This first picture of this kitty is so amazing.
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Allison Gill
Oh my good thing that happened to me. This week I got to host a really amazing town hall with Congresswoman Sarah Jacobs in the 48th district. For it was a Darrell Issa empty chair town hall, but Sarah Jacobs showed up to answer the questions of Darrell Issa's constituents. And it was a really great event.
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Dana Goldberg
That's because you're amazing. I'm glad you got to have that opportunity. Those seats need to be filled with people who actually care about the voters.
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Allison Gill
I thank you for the kind words, but it was all Sarah. Everybody was so excited to see her and hear from her, and she had some really great answers for those constituents. But that's my little good news, so send it to us. Send your good news. First up from Anonymous with this amazing photo. Hello, Beans Queens. Today you reported on a school superintendent who was detained illegally in Houston. This story shook me as I'm married to an immigrant who is naturalized, but from a country that the US doesn't really like and happens to be a superintendent as well. He won't leave the US because of this bullshit. How the hell can they say that he had no rights? What can be done to stop this madness? Can this man sue them? This just hit so close to home and I'm so worried. Anonymous. I don't know. I don't know if you can sue ice. And I think that the reason Donald Trump is expanding ICE and wants to use ICE as his own personal secret police is because they don't have the restrictions that normal law enforcement does. You don't have a lot of rights when you're detained by ice, unfortunately.
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Dana Goldberg
And unfortunately, there's a weird loophole when you are out, like when you're not yet stepped on American soil. So when you're coming back into a country, there's some weird thing within the airports that they have more wiggle room with constitutional rights. It's unfair, but it's true. This next one's from Anonymous. Hello, Beans Queens. I just got done listening to the Sup porn Intendant episode and wasn't sure if hubby had heard the whole story about Ryan Walters. So I caught him up quickly and he had heard it and helped me finish the story. And then he says, sounds like a happy ending. I love him. Here's our pets here of doodle. Truman Capoodle, whom you've seen before. Piebald kitty, all of that. We've talked about this before in their natural poses and baby tariff. Our two youngest grandchildren.
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Allison Gill
I love Truman Caputo. There he is.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah. Cutie pie, Cutie pie.
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Allison Gill
And all of it for. Oh, look at this. These kids. This is like. This is an advertisement for something. These children are so beautiful. Oh, my goodness. Two youngest grandchildren. How adorable. Thank you so much for that and I appreciate your submission. Next up, from Amanda. Pronouns, she and her hi, Queens of the Beans. I would like to shout out My amazing mailman husband, Sean. He's too amazing for words and his actions speak louder. Anyway, we went to Shakespeare in the Park. A free Shakespeare performance at a beautiful park by amazing actors. Things are rough but we get each other through. Keep being a highlight of our day and fighting the good fight as our pad pat tariff. Our lawn goose dressed up for for post office. 250 years of service. Amazing. And by the way Amanda, excellent, excellent. Good news submission. We went to see Shakespeare in the park and it was awesome. That's it, right?
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Dana Goldberg
That's it.
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Allison Gill
This amazing photo is wonderful. And look at the lawn goose dressed up as a mailman. I love it and thanks to your service, your whole family as a matter of fact, really appreciate it.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah. All right, we've got Rachel Pronoun. She and her hi Ag and Dana. Love the podcast and so grateful to both of you for your honest, relatable content. I have good news. My son was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes about a year ago and of course it's been a major life change for our little family, but he has handled it with courage and grace and didn't realize was packed inside this little teenage body. He is the only child in his school with type 1 diabetes. He doesn't know anyone outside the school with it either. Earlier this year he received a full scholarship to attend two weeks of a sleep away summer camp for tween and teen boys with T1D single mom here. The tuition is $3,000 and would have otherwise been completely out of reach. The camp is staffed by counselors with T1D, nutritionists, nurses, therapists, et cetera and daily routines. Activities are completely typical of what one thinks when hearing summer camp. The stigma of quote being different around highs and lows, medicating for meals is completely removed and the kids just exist. He had a blast. He made friends. He learned independence around his condition. He relaxed into himself in a way he needed very much. I'm beyond thankful for our anonymous donor for making this possible for my kid. I'm beyond thankful for the simple existence of this camp. I'm hoping I can organize a way to allow him to camp again for years to come. Thank you for your time and attention. Thank you for this platform. Keep doing what you're doing. Both of my kids love the podcast too. By the way, picture attached of him walking away from me me mom sobbing with his counselor after check in. This is awesome, right Rachel? This is so cool. I love that he got to do this. It's just to be able to normalize things that you have experiencing in your body when they seem to be different than everyone else. It's a gift. This is beautiful.
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Allison Gill
Yeah. That's the power of you're not alone.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah, right.
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Allison Gill
We talk about it all the time. Just fantastic. That is wonderful. Let us know when it comes around again and maybe we can see if we can get some help to go to camp again. Rach. Next up from Anonymous. Hello. I'm writing again with a PSA for a rare disease more people should know about. About being an advocate for your loved ones. In mid 2024, my dad, always an active and healthy person, started getting strange symptoms that he and his primary care physician couldn't figure out. Swelling in his legs, known as edema, and then a bit later, a mass in his abdomen near his liver. A few tests and images later, cancer was ruled out, and the specialist he was sent to quickly diagnosed him with alcoholic cirrhosis. But wait, that didn't make sense. He's never been a heavy drinker. But the specialist was confident he was right, and so my dad was sent on his way with a treatment plan to cut alcohol out completely and keep mindful with a few dietary instructions. Fast forward to a mere two months later, and my dad was in the ICU facing liver failure, kidney failure, and heart failure. My dad passed away in August at the age of 64, with doctors making him feel ashamed and embarrassed and not listening to him, saying that none of it made sense. They simply made assumptions. It's cirrhosis. You never stop drinking when you were told to. My mom insisted on an autopsy and at a different hospital. Yeah, I don't blame her. Well, my dad did not die of alcoholic cirrhosis. He had a rare disease called al. Amyloidosis. Amyloidosis. Scar. Sorry, I know how to say this. Amyloidosis, where your body produces misshapen proteins that collect in your organs and get them all jammed up, causing organ failure. Because the first organ that was affected for him was the liver, and because it was presenting similarly to cirrhosis, that's what he was diagnosed with. But here's the rub. Despite my dad insisting it didn't make any sense, the specialist was so convinced, without any evidence, he never did a biopsy of the liver, and a biopsy would have shown the amyloidosis. And even though because of how far along the disease was, he was likely going to die, we could have approached his final months in a way that didn't cause him an incredible amount of pain, suffering, and cost him his dignity. So my call out to everyone in the Leguminati is take a quick read through about what al amyloidosis is because it's sneaky as fuck. And two, if a doctor's not listening to you or a loved one and things aren't making sense, walk to the end of the earth to get your message across. Because even though they have the knowledge and the power, doctors are not infallible and you know your body best. And as my dad used to say. Well, that's enough of that. For my pod pet tax and a shout out, I'm sending in photos of some past and present adoptable pups being fostered by my friend Kyle. She and her counterpart run a non profit foster for special needs puppies. Mostly puppies just days old with cleft lips and cleft palates occasionally others like see hydrocephalus and heart conditions. Surgery for clefts has a low success rate in dogs and they come to her very weak because they haven't been able to latch on to mom. I never thought of that. So for weeks she tube feeds them every two hours and once they make it through that they transition to kibble and then they can live totally typical lives. Her work is so important for these little ones that are often not given a chance and they're usually euthanized. So thank you to Kyle. Their Instagram is Echs T E C H S Tex 4 the number 4 clefts C L E F T S.
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Dana Goldberg
I can barely handle these photos. My heart, these puppies.
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Allison Gill
Oh my goodness. I know. What an incredible story. Anonymous. And thank you for taking what just is such a horrible series of events and trying to make sure that it changes the lives of other people.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah, absolutely. This one's from Anonymous. No pronouns given. I'm a huge fan. That's the end of the submission. I'm kidding. It's not the end of submission. I discovered you Alison and Dana after my physics and maths loving Gen Z Aussie daughter phoned me distraught because Trump had broken directly into her world. She was 3,800km away from home at the time, researching at Australia's national science organization. I want to call it Cicero because I think that'd be fun, but it's C S I R O. Maybe it is Cicero. And because of its affiliation with NASA, she received the early email from Trump bullying workers to quote, snitch on their co workers for being dei. My daughter is sweet, kind, hardworking, shy, very progressive and gently coming out at her own pace as a lesbian. I love her so much. She's just the best. She went on this trip way out of her comfort zone to encourage herself to gain social confidence. I think this experience set her back on her path. Finding your podcast gives me so much comfort. I have shed many tears listening as things have gotten worse and worse since then. A single email seems so little now, but just that was big in our world. So I can't begin to fathom the horrors of people losing their jobs and people being disappeared. My heart went out to Andrew Hernandez Romero and his mother. I wish Trump understood how what he is doing makes assholes around the world feel like they have been given license to openly discriminate. But if he doesn't care at home, why would he care about the rest of us? But still, I find that I feel, against all odds, that I'm supporting by listening to YouTube. Because when you express so much love for the LGBTQIA community, I could see that there are people who will wrap my precious daughter in impenetrable love. Recently, she showed signs of resilience in light of this and came out to her close friends at work. She's such a ray of sunshine. I love it so much when you two share a belly laugh. It makes me happy. Thank you. It makes me happy as well.
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Allison Gill
I'm so glad we can help you feel supported.
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Dana Goldberg
Anonymous. Give your daughter love from both of us. I wish that I could just wrap all of these young queers in lgbtqia plus kids in a hug and be like, you're all right, you're all right. Not just that. You belong here, and we need you individually. We need everything you have to offer to this world.
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Allison Gill
So true. So very true. Thank you so much, Anonymous, for that, and thanks to all of you for your incredible submissions. This was a really, really great good news sesh, I think. I feel so much love and joy. So just thank you so much, everybody. I really appreciate you. And thanks to our good friend Charlotte for joining us today. Always a pleasure to speak to Charlotte.
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Dana Goldberg
Always is.
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Allison Gill
She's wonderful. I hope you get a chance to subscribe to her substack. It's. It's well worth it. And that's all I have. Do you have any final thoughts today, my friend?
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Dana Goldberg
No, not today.
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Allison Gill
All right, everybody, we'll be back in your ears tomorrow. Until then, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health, and take care of your family. I've been ag.
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Dana Goldberg
I've been dg.
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Allison Gill
And them is the Beans. The Daily Beans is written and executive produced by Allison Gill, with additional research and reporting by Dana Goldberg. Sound design and editing is by Desiree McFarlane with art and web design by Joelle Reader with Moxie Design Studios. Music for the Daily Beans is written and performed by they Might Be Giants and the show is a proud member of the MSW Media Network, a collection of creator owned podcasts dedicated to news, politics and justice. For more information Please visit msw media.com msw media.