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Friday, September 5th, 2025 Today, ten federal judges criticize the Supreme Court’s use of the emergency docket in rare interviews with NBC; the District of Columbia has filed suit against the government over Trump’s National Guard deployment to the capitol; the Justice Department has issued subpoenas in its investigation into Fed Reserve Governor Lisa Cook; Republican discontent with RFK Jr is growing after embarrassing testimony on capitol hill; Florida moves to end vaccine mandates for school children; Trump is looking to ban guns for transgender people; Republican leader John Thune keeps the door open to extending Obamacare tax credits; a federal judge orders the Trump administration to unfreeze $2.2 billion in federal grants to Harvard; and Allison and Dana deliver your Good News.
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MSW Media. Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Friday, September 5, 2025. Today, 10 federal judges criticized the Supreme Court's use of the emergency docket in a rare interview with NBC. The District of Columbia has filed a lawsuit against the government over Trump's National Guard deployment to the Capitol. The Justice Department has issued subpoenas in its investigation into Fed Reserve Governor Lisa Cook. Republican discontent with RFK Jr. Is growing after an embarrassing showing and testimony on Capitol Hill. Florida moves to end vaccine mandates for school children. Trump is looking to ban guns for transgender people. Republican leader John Thune keeps the door open to extending Obamacare tax credits. And a federal judge orders the Trump administration to unfreeze $2.2 billion in federal grants to Harvard. I'm Allison Gill.
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And I'm Dana Goldberg.
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Hello, my friend. Happy Friday. We made it.
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Happy Friday to you. As you are listening to this, I will be going on stage tonight with Rita Rutner and Kara Leifer, Kathy Griffin, Stephanie Miller to raise money for the Los Angeles Reproductive Guild, which is an umbrella for five other reproductive health organizations. So I'm excited about that tonight. As you listen to this podcast, I'll let you know how it goes next Monday morning.
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That is a Beast Mode lineup. I can't even.
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It's ridiculous. It's a ridiculous. And that's not even everybody, Cathy Ladman. I mean, it's just. It's an insane lineup. Yeah.
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That's incredible. I hope you raise a whole ton of money, and I look forward to hearing about it on Monday.
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Thank you.
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It's Friday, so it's Fugl saying Fridays here on the Daily Beans. I'm going to be joined by John Fugal saying later in the show, we do have a ton of news to get to today, so we should probably just get right to it and hit the hot notes. Hot notes. All right. First up from NBC. Federal judges are frustrated with the Supreme Court for increasingly overturning lower court rulings involving the Trump administration with little or no explanation, with some worried that the practice is undermining the judiciary at a sensitive time. Narrator it is. In rare interviews with NBC News, a dozen federal judges appointed by Democratic and Republican presidents, including Trump and serving all around the country, pointed to a pattern they say has recently emerged. Of course, Steve Vladik's been tracking this pattern for a while. Lower court judges are handed contentious cases involving the Trump administration. They painstakingly research the law to reach their rulings. And when, when they go against Trump, the administration officials and allies criticize the judges in very harsh terms. Then the government appeals to the supreme court with its 6:3 conservative majority. And then the Supreme Court in emergency rulings, swiftly rejects the judge's decisions with little to no explanation. 10 of the 12 judges who spoke to NBC News said the Supreme Court should better explain those rulings, noting that these terse decisions leave lower court judges with little guidance for how to proceed. But they also have a new and concerning effect. The judges said they validate the Trump administration's criticisms of the lower courts. A short rebuttal from the Supreme Court, they argue, makes it seem like the lower court judges did shoddy work or are biased against the Trump administration with tensions so high. 4. The judges said they believe the Supreme Court and specifically John Roberts, the head of the judiciary, the, you know, the, the head of the ring wraiths should do more to defend the courts. The Supreme Court, a second judge said, is effectively assisting the Trump administration in undermining the lower courts, leaving district and appeals court judges thrown under the bus. The Supreme Court has an obligation to explain rulings in a way the public can understand, a third judge said, adding that when the court so frequently rules for the administration in emergency cases without fully telling people why, it sends a signal. The court has had strong left leaning majorities in the past, but what is different now is has it had strong left leaning majorities in the past, but what's different now is the role emergency cases are playing in public discourse. The Supreme Court, the judge said, is effectively endorsing Stephen Miller's claims that the judiciary is trying to subvert the presidency. Quote, it's almost like the Supreme Court is saying it's a judicial coup, the judge said. So it's really brought this story to you today because it's just so unheard of that one, let alone 12 judges, would talk to the press, right?
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Yep. And I'm glad they are.
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Me too.
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This next one, what a circus this was today. This is from Politico. Republican support for Health Secretary RFK Jr. On Capitol Hill. It's starting to waver. Most Republicans on the Finance Committee had Kennedy's back during his first appearance in the Senate since he cut funding for MRNA vaccines, restricted access to Covid shots, and fired his CDC director. But numbers of his critics, they're growing. In addition to Louisiana's Bill Cassidy, who sparred with Kennedy since voting to confirm him in February, John Barrasso of Wyoming, you got the Senate's second ranking Republican and Thom Tillis of North Carolina, they all took issue with Kennedy's leadership. And I quote, in your confirmation hearings, you promised to uphold the highest standards for vaccines. This is from Barrasso. Since then, I've grown deeply concerned.
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You and Susan Collins.
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Yep. What are you going to do? Write a letter? Never send it. Now, both Cassidy and Tillis pointed out President Donald Trump's role in developing the COVID vaccines that Kennedy has in the past disparaged. Kennedy once said that they were, in a, quote, deadliest vaccine ever made and has now made more difficult for young, healthy people to even get them. They now need a prescription from a doctor in some cases. And I quote, I for one think that it was a signature achievement of President Trump. This is from Tillis. Now, Cassidy said he thought Trump deserved a Nobel Prize for his operation Warp Speed, which provided billions in funding to get the vaccines to market less than a year after Covid started killing Americans. Kennedy said he agreed, but he struggled to explain the policy contradictions. I know. Well, as Politico was previously reported, senior Trump aides believe Kennedy's quote, make America healthy again. Those loyalists, they helped deliver the popular vote to Trump last November and that keeping them in GOP tent will be crucial to ensuring the party holds onto power come the midterms. But GOP senators concerns at the hearing, they may be driven by an August memo from Trump's longtime pollster, Fabrice Award.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Uh huh. That memo said that the overwhelming majority of voters support vaccines with the exception of COVID shots, where opinion is polarized along party lines. Well, during the hearing, Barroso appeared to cite the polls finding that 89% of voters agree that vaccine recommendations should be made by experts. Which Kennedy is not one of.
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No. And you'll remember Tony Fabrizio. He was a guy who used to rig polls for Trump during the first Trump administration. He was also behind that Wall Street Journal poll that Kornacki and Nate Silver and everybody was endlessly and breathlessly talking about in the summer of 2024. That said, just Biden is just too old. That kicked off that entire thing and eventually pushed Biden out of the race. All right, next up, in a related story from the Times, Florida plans to become the first state to end all vaccine mandates. Why the hell not? Including for school children. Rejecting a practice that public health experts have credited for decades with limiting the spread of infectious diseases. That's a nice way of saying kids don't die. Like you don't lose half your kids to disease because we have vaccines now. Joseph Ladapo or Ladapo, I can't, I don't know how to say his name, but he's the Florida Surgeon General. He made the announcement on Wednesday alongside DeSantis. DeSantis rose to national prominence, as we know, during the coronavirus pandemic and over time has espoused increasingly anti vaccine views. And here's a quote. Who am I to tell you what your child should put in their body? First of all, your child doesn't put vaccines in their bodies. Doctors do. But that's what Dr. Ladapo, a vocal denigrator of vaccines, said to applause during an event on Wednesday in Valrico, Florida, near Tampa. Your body is a gift from God. That's what he said. He added that the administration would be working to end all vaccine mandates. Every last one of them is wrong and drips with disdain and slavery. That's what ladapo said, without elaborating how that's at all true. This just seems to me, Dana, like an effort to, like, if I lived in Florida and they stopped mandating vaccines at schools, I would want to homeschool my kid.
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Well, absolutely.
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And so when you do that, when you send all the kids home from public school, you're isolating people from their community.
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Yes. And I'm curious about charter schools, if they're gonna do the same thing there, or if these, you know, quote, unquote rich families are gonna make sure that their kids are vaccinated. So it's not survival of the fittest. Also, how are these fucking kids gonna be traveling around on planes with their no vaccines and their little petri dishes infecting everyone else around the country who believes in vaccines?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Anyway. All right. This is from the Associated Press. The Justice Department has begun examining mortgage fraud allegations against Lisa Cook, the Federal Reserve governor who is challenging a effort to remove her from her job and erode the central bank's independence. Investigators have issued subpoenas as part of an inquiry into Cook spawned by a criminal referral from the country's top housing regulator. This is according to a person familiar with the matter who was not authorized to discuss the probe and of course, did not give their name because of it. A Justice Department spokesperson declined to comment on the inquiry, which was earlier reported by the Wall Street Journal. They are going to try and find any bullshit reason they can because under law, they cannot fire her without cause.
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Yep. Also happens to be a black woman. So, indeed, there's another prominent black woman who's being investigated for mortgage fraud. Her name is Tish James. So, all right, this is from the Independent. And this has my blood boiling. Today, the Department of Justice is reportedly considering a proposal to restrict transgender Americans from possessing firearms, making a dramatic reversal of the Trump administration's pledges to preserve the Second Amendment rights of people while escalating the president's attack against trans Americans. Since taking office, Trump has issued a series of directives targeting trans Americans, as we know, including an executive order that erases federal recognition of trans people and other measures that restrict gender affirming health care and ban trans athletes from competing in women's sports. The Department of Defense, as we know, has also forced out thousands of amazing trans service members from all branches of the military. Trans people are not linked to to higher rates of violence, and the overwhelming majority of mass attacks are committed by cisgender men. Trans people are more than four times likely to be victims of violent crimes, including rape and sexual assault. And Dana, I think that since the overwhelming majority of shootings are committed by cisgender men, we should take their guns first.
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Absolutely.
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Just my two cents.
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Yep. And God forbid this is never going to happen. It's not going to happen, first of all. But you'll see the mass shooting number drop by a minuscule percentage point because that is exactly what the number is of transgender people that are responsible for mass shootings. 4. And I think 5,000 that we've had. 4. 4. I'm just so tired of them attacking my family. Okay, me too. This is from NBC. Senate jury leader John Thune is keeping the door open to a potential extension of tax credits under the Affordable Care act that are scheduled to expire at the end of 2025. The issue has divided Republicans, with some calling for extending the funds to avoid insurance premium hikes next year, an idea that numerous conservatives in the party oppose. The issue has risen a concern for many Republicans ahead of the 2026 midterm elections, which some strategists in the party warning that voters will punish them if the subsidies expire and Leeds premium increases next year. Absolutely they will. House Speaker Mike Johnson has been non committal shocking on the issue, but he similarly kept the door open to a funding extension.
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Yeah. Oh, so you want to seriously hike health insurance premiums right before the midterms. And it's going to be up to Republicans to make sure that doesn't happen. So that's why they're leaving the door open. I hope they extend them.
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I hope they do, too.
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All right. Some better news from the Associated Press. The District of Columbia on Thursday challenged Trump's use of the National Guard in Washington, asking a federal court to intervene even as he plans to send troops to other cities in the name of driving down crime. Brian Schwab, that's the District's elected attorney general, said in a lawsuit that the deployment, which now involves more than a thousand troops, is in illegal use of the military for domestic law enforcement. Quote, no American jurisdiction should be involuntarily subjected to military occupation. That's what Schwab said. Members of the D.C. national Guard have had their orders extended through December, according to a Guard official. While that does not necessarily mean all these troops will serve that long, it's a strong indication their role will not wind down soon. So I think that's a great idea. Keep these folks away from their families and their jobs during the holidays.
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Yeah, that's going to go over very.
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Well now, bowser said on Thursday. That's the mayor. Muriel Bowser said her focus is on preparing for when the emergency ends, which under the law would be September 10th unless Congress extends it in the order she issued this week. That preparation centered on how the District could best coordinate with and communicate with federal law enforcement agencies that will likely remain in contact with the city's citizens. Schwab's filing contends the deployment also violates Washington's Home Rule act, signed by Nixon in 1973, and wrongly asserts federal control over units from other states. So much like Ag Bonta in California sued on behalf of Governor Gavin Newsom about the troop deployment in la, which Breyer just said violates the Posse Comitatus act, some of it DC Is also suing.
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Good. And speaking of fighting back, it pays to fight back. Finally, some good news. This is from NBC. A federal judge in Boston ordered the Trump administration on Wednesday to unfreeze nearly $2.2 billion in federal grants to Harvard, and I quote, all freezes and terminations of funding to Harvard made pursuant to the freeze orders and termination letters on or after April 14, 2025. They're vacated and set aside. This is from U.S. district Judge Allison Burrows. That's what she said in an order. Now, the 84 page order conceded that Harvard has been, and I quote, plagued by antisemitism in recent years and should have done a better job of dealing with the issue. But it said that there is in reality little connection between the research affected by the grant determinations and antisemitism. In fact, review of the administrative record, it makes it difficult to conclude anything other than defendants used antisemitism as a smokescreen for a targeted, ideologically motivated assault on the country's premier universities and did so in a way that runs afoul of the APA, the First Amendment and Title 6. Okay, this is all from Burroughs. The Administrative Procedure act, or apa, gives federal courts oversight over all agency actions. Title VI prohibits discrimination based on race, color, or national origin. Harvard President Alan Garber said in a statement that the ruling affirms the university's First Amendment and procedural rights and validates our agreements in defense of the university's academic freedom, critical scientific research, and the core principles of American higher education. The Trump administration, of course, said it's going to appeal this egregious decision.
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You lose. I'm glad Harvard fought.
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Yeah, me, too.
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They're fighting a good fight instead of rolling over like some of these other universities. All right, everybody, your good trouble is going to be first up in the Good news segment, which we'll get to after John Fugal sang after this quick break. Stick around. We'll be right back after these messages.
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We'll be right back.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back. It's Friday on the Daily Beans, which means it's Fugal saying Fridays. So joining me is the host of tell me everything on SiriusXM progress channel 127. You can hear that show weeknights at 9pm Eastern, 6 Pacific. If you don't have Sirius, you can always check out the John Fugelsang show podcast, which is free wherever you get your pods. If you don't have that, he has a substack, the Fugal Stack. I don't think it's called that, but that's what I call it. And of course, your book coming out next week, September 9, separation of church and Hate. I can't wait to get my hands on a copy. It might be in my mailbox right now. I got something from Simon and Schuster.
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Ah, I hope that's mine.
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So we'll see. I'm on, I'm on snail mail speed dial with Simon and Schuster these days. But please welcome John Feigl, saying hi, my friend.
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Thank you, Dr. Gill. It's so nice to see you and be back on your show. Thanks so much. Yeah, my resume is getting longer every week.
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Always good to see you. Always good to see you. And, and we'll have you on, you know, next week. We'll talk, we'll dive into the book a little bit once I chew through it, which I'm sure it is a pretty amazing page.
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I mean, if you, if you want, I'm happy to talk about how Snoop Dogg is terrified of cartoon lesbians as well. Whatever you want to do. I'm happy to go there.
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I don't know what's going on with Snoop Dogg.
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Oh, I know what's going on with Snoop Dogg. I know what's going on with Snoop Dogg. Snoop Dogg was homophobic in the 90s, and we all defended him because he was a great artist. And when he talked about being a pimp and owning hoes on Howard Stern, we laughed because he doesn't mean that. Right. But he made great music. And then under Barack Obama, embracing marriage equality, Snoop Dogg became pro gay, appeared on two episodes of the L Word, played himself, took a check when it was lucrative to be pro diversity. And then he went down to tap dance for racists at Mar A Lago for Donald Trump's reelection called called entertainers who supported Trump uncle Tom's in 2017. But for the second term, he flew down to play at Mar a Lago for a bunch of racists who don't know any of his songs. And now he watches Lightyear, the Disney movie where Buzz Lightyear's lady friend has a wife, and suddenly, ooh, we can sing in the living room. Getting it on. Because that's for male entertainment. But two moms holding hands, who will think of the children? And that's how an artist backslides and sells out 20 years after he realized he could cash in for being pro lesbian.
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Yeah, okay, well, there's the explanation.
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There you go. Yeah, sorry. That's the gangster rap. We never knew what a high moral bar he had set back then.
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Yeah, well, I remember those days. And was. Was happy to see him turn it around, but then he turned it back.
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When Dionne Warwick read Snoop Dogg the riot act. And he. He turned it around and said he was going to be better. And he was for a long time. And now this is just like, you know, I'm watching Light year and these lesbians. What am I going to tell my grandkid? It's like, tell them sometimes two women love each other. Finish your popcorn. What? What do you mean, what? You got to tell them. You're going to tell them about all the copies of your pimp DVD that you have in the garage. Tell them about that, Snoop. Who'll think of the children?
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Think of the children. Let's talk a little bit about some stuff that happened this week, because I know on our bonus episode of cleanup on all 45, I talked to Harry about this because Harry was at the Capitol. Harry Dunn was at the Capitol when the survivors of Epstein and Maxwell gave their press conference.
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Yes.
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During which Donald Trump scheduled a military flyover. By the way, oh, yeah, try to drown them out and interrupt them. Nevertheless, they persisted.
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Are you asking a weak man to not be weak? Is that what you're criticizing him for?
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No, I would never, never let me know. But I watched that intently as a survivor myself, and it was difficult to watch, but it was so important. And those women are just so brave.
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I would like to find a way to make every male in America over the age of 13 watch the press conference of those women yesterday. I mean, they survived some of the most gut wrenching abuse you can imagine. And they showed up and showed their names, showed their faces, which is more than the cowards on Twitter will do. And they more or less says, if you cowards won't release the files, we're going to release them ourselves. And Epstein's former bro calls them a Democrat hoax. These crying women begging for justice, relieving trauma, hydroxychloroquine and sharpie weather maps, those are science. And then the cowardice is Speaker Mike Johnson telling these women, we'll leave no stone unturned. And then 10 minutes later, he turns the stone over and crawls under it. I mean, all the stones are classified. Congress has a hundred thousand pages of information on this. Rupert Murdoch has told the world that Pam Bondi told Trump he was in them last May.
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Well, Congress doesn't have all 100,000, by.
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The way, but they'd rather hide them than read them. I mean, they, every member of Congress but one voted to protect the pedophiles.
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4.
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It was one from North Carolina.
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Oh, you're talking about the meaningless, non binding resolution to keep investigating.
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Oh, yeah, that. An important vote to know where these guys stand one year before midterms. And I mean, this is the discharge petition.
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There, there still aren't enough votes for that. They. I have a thing that would actually do something.
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Correct. But again, they're, they're on the record.
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They've no right. They are on the record. I'm not contesting that they're on the record for a meaningless non binding resolution. But they're on the record.
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Yes. And to me, they're promising to show names. Like this is the part in the horror movie where, where the only one left alive is the shy girl, but she's not running anymore. She comes back with the A. Like it's, it's so exciting because this is not going to be about Epstein. This is going to be about everybody who partied with him and profited from him or covered for him. And that's why these women scare the hell out of Washington. And there's Democratic donor names, I'm sure on these lists. But the Democrats are unified in saying release the names anyway.
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Right, but the Republicans are not. And they, you know, Trump was making personal phone calls to Republican members of the House saying not to sign the discharge petition.
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That's right.
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Because it would be considered a hostile act toward him. I'm not sure how releasing documents that exonerate you is a hostile act.
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That's it. I mean, if there's nothing in the files, why are they fighting so hard to keep them sealed? That's the only question we have to have.
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Yeah. And the, of course the, the first release of documents is nothing more than phase one Bondi binder of documents. We've already seen.
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Yes. Remember when, when she g those binders as props to a bunch of right wing influencers who didn't realize they were also props. Yeah. I mean, Pam Bondi just played those people for stooges and I think they know and I think they don't mind.
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Yeah, I'm, I'm pretty sure that's the case.
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Yeah.
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But hats off to these, these brave women. They, they, there were reporters shouting questions at them, doubting their sincerity and their honesty and, and attacking them.
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These women are so damn brave. Like I think of the, of the altar boys who come forward, men who have even more hang ups and to show your name to, to have them know your face and actually stand there. I mean, imagine surviving Epstein and then having Donald Trump calling you a liar. Like these women are so much stronger than all of these men who come on now. Loyalty to Trump is going to turn into smearing these women. You know, that's the next phase. If this gets tighter, it's going to come into these women's names becoming very famous and the good Christians of Maga hating these women as much as they've hated other women for Trump in the past. I mean, this is not going away and Trump's trapped. He can't be honest and he can't make it disappear.
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So no, there's only one way to make this disappear and that's to release all 300,000 pages of the Epstein files. You know, redacted, except for the survivors names.
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It's worth remembering. When Donald Trump dies, I don't care how many millions of dollars you donate him. I don't think he's going to heaven. But thousands of NDAs will go to heaven that day and thousands of people will be able to start talking a whole lot. Oh, the books we will read.
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Yeah, agreed. All Right. Let's talk a little bit about a couple other things that happened in the courts this week. Judge Breyer, who is former Justice Breyer's brother.
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That's right, It's.
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A judge in Northern District of California ruled that the Marine deployment and the Guard troop deployment kind of violates the Posse Comitatus Act.
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Yeah. He more or less said, you don't get to play Darth Vader with the Marines as your stormtroopers. I mean, I, I mean, this whole mishigos of moving the troops like it's a Taco Bell drive through in LA for this. What was it, four square block area. Like, there's magic conventions in Vegas that take up more acreage than this. And you got Kristi Noem going on Meet the Press last weekend saying the entire city would have burned to the ground. I mean, the media is going to let these people keep lying about things. But this judge, he pretty much said, dude, your name's not on the Constitution. You're not getting in. I mean, Breyer torched him. He said that Trump was trying to create a national police force with himself as chief. Allison, I spent half the night trying to think of the right word for a national police force with the ruler as chief, and I came up with it. Gestapo. Yeah, that's what this was. That's what this is. And the ruling said there was no rebellion in la, and there's no rebellion in DC and there's no rebellion in Chicago. I mean, you look at, look in DC at the photos. Did you see the pictures of the soldiers and National Guardsmen called to do regressing park areas, like carrying sod. Like they're wearing camouflage. And then over their camouflage, they're wearing orange reflective vests. Alison, think about the message. We're said they're wearing camouflage to blend in with the DC architecture. And then bright orange reflective vests over the cab. I have not seen a better metaphor for how this thing is planned out than, than that visual. I mean, the only thing Trump has deployed successfully is mulch. It's so ridiculous.
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Yeah. And that rebellion that you're talking about, what Judge Breyer is saying is actually you can deploy the troops here, they just can't do law enforcement stuff, riot control, crowd control, arresting people, detaining people. So there actually isn't this ruling kind of leaves more questions than answers because we still don't know whether it's legal for him to send them there at all.
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Well, I mean, his lawyers admit it. They said they certainly understand that the President can't Just deploy troops whenever he wants to order the military around. And his lawyers basically said, we know he can't do it, but he wants to. That was essentially their argument to the judge.
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But again, Judge Breyer said you can as long as you're not doing these 10 things.
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Yeah.
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And again, see how that further gets litigated.
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And Pete Hexith is trying to get him to take live ammo with them. I mean, so they can shoot Americans. So the National Guard can shoot Americans if they have to. I mean, like this is why. Please.
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Sorry to interrupt. Did you notice that we, you know, JB Pritzker came on after the press conference with the Maxwell Epstein survivors and said that Greg Abbott is planning, his understanding is Greg Abbott is planning on deploying the Texas National Guard to Illinois. Texas is going to invade Illinois. And there are a couple of things, and I talked to Steve Vladik about this, that make that illegal. These are unfederalized guards, Title 32, not Title 10 like they were in Los Angeles. So when you're not federalized, that takes the Posse Comitatus act out of it. But you also can't do that under Article 4 of the Constitution. It's a pretty big legal hurdle to climb. You could. Texas National Guard can't send, can't go into Illinois without a request from Illinois asking for the help. So I saw Donald Trump say, well, we're rethinking that. We're rethinking Illinois, but maybe New Orleans. Yes, the wonderful Jeff Landry who wants us there. So now I think the plan is blue cities in red state.
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Blue city in red state. Exactly.
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Where there's no Democratic attorney General to sue you to stop.
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The five most violent cities in America are all in red states with red state governors. And we don't hear a thing about that. You know, in the case of Greg Abbott sending the Texas National Guard to Chicago, I almost want to say, let them do it. Let them take all these hardworking men and women away from their jobs, away from their families, away from their communities, take these people away, put an undue burden on them and their families and their finances by sending them off to Chicago, where I guess the taxpayers of Texas will pay to put these hardworking part time military up in hotels at Chicago rates for months and months while their families and businesses struggle without them. I think the good people of Texas who vote deserve to know just how much Greg Abbott prefers persecuting black people over there than helping Texans over here. And regarding the Chicago thing, I think the very fact that Trump is Now, talking about New Orleans shows how scared he is of Pritzker. Folks, they will back down. We keep seeing it. We saw it with Harvard University. I mean, we're seeing it with the judges. Punch the bully back and the bully backs down. They don't. I mean, I think they know how expensive and ugly this would be. What scares me the most. And we talked about it last week, Alison, with Trump's completely bogus flag burning amendment. I was talking about this on MSNBC the other night. He wants you to burn the flag. He signed that for one reason. He knows it's not legally binding. He wants liberals to burn the flag to show a lesson about the First Amendment. And then they'll get the visuals for Fox News and oan that night of these liberals burning the flag. And only Trump can help you. By the same token, he, he wants protesters to throw a rock at a National Guardsman. Of course, once. He wants the Gorman massacre in Andor have you watched season two of Andor yet, Doctor?
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Have you seen it?
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I'm telling everybody. If you haven't watched it yet, all Star wars geek stuff aside, you have to watch through the Gorman massacre episode because they want the violence so they can crush people. These are weak, terrified people. They know that tariffs are going to do a number on them in the next six months. They know Epstein's not going away. They're so terrified of the midterms they're trying to cheat in Texas now. I mean, they, they are counting on violence. And I really hope that we can, we can keep cool heads long enough to not give them what they want.
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Right. That violence gives him the pretext to invoke the Insurrection act, which makes him not liable under the Posse Comitatus act so he can federalize the troops and send them wherever he wants.
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And talking about.
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Sorry, go ahead.
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No, we're just being invaded by Americans.
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Please. Yeah, well, no, we are, but I want to, I want to talk also about something else pretextual that happened this week. You remember back in March, in the middle of the night, Donald Trump, Stephen Miller loaded a bunch of 250 men on a plane, on planes and tried to send them to El Salvador to put them in Seacoat Prison, which he was successful at doing because Emil Bovey told the Department of Justice lawyers to tell the court to, to off when Boasberg said turn the planes around and bring them back.
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Correct. We've. We've seen that our DOJ has to be forced to comply with the law. We've seen that, yes.
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So that's under what? The power that Trump used to do that is the Alien Enemies Act. And now that act can only be invoked when we're at war. And the very conservative Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals just came back after the Supreme Court ordered them to do this. You decide 5th Circuit on whether the Alien Enemies act was used lawfully here. And the Fifth Circuit said, no, it wasn't. There is no incursion, there is no predatory invasion and there is no war. This is a wartime thing. You can't do this.
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We haven't legally declared war since 1941.
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But what happened this week? Marco Rubio and the Navy hit a boat.
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Yeah.
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Of Venezuelans coming to the United States.
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Oh, yeah.
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To escalate the conflict now.
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Oh, no, no. Donald Trump's the anti war president. I heard this on Fox.
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Right. He's. He's ended six wars. Name them. Six of them.
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Oh, it's up to 10. But nine of those are games of Battleship where Stephen Miller let him win. By the way, India Modi's not really too thrilled about Donald Trump running around taking credit for his ceasefire. They're.
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Oh, no.
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And they're playing kissy face with Putin and XI right now. They had a celebration for the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II and the United States wasn't invited. I mean, but so now, now we.
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Have Donald Trump trying to argue that he can deport and render anybody to sea coat to any foreign land under the Alien Enemies Act. He can use it to intern brown people here in the United States in concentration camps. The courts are saying he can't because we don't have an incursion or an invasion. So what do you do? You create one by blowing up a boat.
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That's right.
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That was actually full of migrants, not drugs.
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That's right.
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And that's.
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He murdered people. He murdered people. And Pete Hex had this brag to.
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Be able to say that there's an incursion happening from Venezuela and Trend Iragua. He specifically mentioned.
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Yes.
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Trend Iragua gang members when he said that that's why they blew up the boat.
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Yes.
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He. That's his protect.
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He murdered them and then he maligned them and smeared them and lied about them to justify his murder. Yes. And this is Pete Heath's doing as well. And again, it's very important for Donald Trump's lieutenants to all be on the record about this. And I'm going to be voting for the Democrats who promise deep accountability starting in January of 2027. Because I've said This on your show last week, Allison, I, I've started to kind of think the oligarchs are done with Trump. I think they got everything they wanted. And the billionaire class who owns this country, our landlords, they're not interested in this tariff stuff. They're not interested in all this deploying the troops to cities. None of this is business Fed Reserve nonsense. And the Fed came out yesterday and said that increase in prices due to tariffs have affected every single sector in the United States economy. And the Fed came out yesterday and said that that consumer shopping has flatlined or gone down because of the tariffs. The owners of this country didn't sign on for this. They got their big tax cut, they got their filthy pollution allowance, they got their crypto loophole. And I don't think the landlords are going to put up with this much longer. It's very important to me that we know all of the Republicans who are calling for and supporting all of these human rights violations because we didn't take care of the Confederacy and we didn't take care of Nixon and we didn't do anything about Iran Contra and we didn't do anything about the Iraq War and we didn't do anything about the higher ups in Trump's first administration. We just sent the low level confederates, not the plantation owners, to jail. The Democrats who get win in the fundraising are going to be the ones who promise accountability for this nonsense. I don't want to just make peace after this. I want a whole new generation of Republican who are terrified of fraud and terrified of giving their middle finger to the courts like this. I want Republicans to be scared of corruption for a generation. And I'm going to throw my support behind the Democrat who is going to beat them up for this the most. I think that's what's going to win.
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I, I concur that. And obviously the, because that is, you know, inextricably intertwined with the ruling class versus the rest of us.
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Do you see the Pentagon going along with this much longer? I mean, I just. What's going to happen when some scared National Guards person who's never seen combat shoots an American? What's going to happen when someone hurts a National Guards trooper? I mean, like we're going to be paying class action lawsuits for Donald Trump's choices for decades after he's dead.
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Yeah, Agreed. Thank you, my friend.
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Thank you.
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The best for joining me.
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Thank you.
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And if you want more John Fugal saying, which everybody wants more John Fugal saying, you can find it at tell me Everything.
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Only ranting about Snoop Dogg and cartoon lesbians. That's all I'm talking about anymore.
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That's serious. XM progress channel 127, right. 9:00pm Eastern, 6 Pacific. John Fugle Sang show podcast, sub stack. You're everywhere. You got a book coming out. You can pre order it. You've been able to pre order it. It's called the Separation of Church and Hate. So you look for that wherever you get your books. I like to go to small independent bookstores and order.
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Me too.
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Or you know, Simon and Schuster sends.
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Them directly or not. Non evil websites are good too.
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Exactly. Thank you so much, my friend. It's always a pleasure to see you and we'll see you again next week and see what happens between now and then.
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Thank you, Allison.
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Everybody, stick around. We'll be right back with the good news. Everybody, welcome back. It's time for the good news. Who likes good news?
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Everyone? Then good news, everyone.
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Good news, good news. It's a good news Friday roundup. I would love to hear your good news. Dana would love to hear your good news. So if you have good news, you can send it into us. Whether it's something small or big that's happened to you whenever, it doesn't matter. It could be Yesterday, could be 10 years ago. We would love to hear about it. Maybe you have a shout out to a loved one. Maybe you want to shout out your spouse or partner, maybe a small business in your area, maybe yourself, tell, you know, toot your own horn. We love that. If you have a shout out to a non profit you want to let everybody know about and the good work that they're doing, tell us about it. You can shout out a government program that's helped you or a loved one and all you got to do to get your stuff read on the air in the good news segment is pay your POD pet tariff, which means attach a photo of your pet and we can try badly to guess what breeds are in your shelter dog. We're not very good at it, but we love trying. If you don't have a pet, you can send an adoptable pet in your area. If you don't have that, seriously, just grab any photo of a cute animal off the Internet and send it to us. Especially baby animals. We love otters, especially mamas and baby otters together, holding hands and floating around. So cute. Capybaras. I love secretary birds. Frogs, pandas, black and white, red, whatever. Send it all to us. If you don't have that, family pictures, baby pictures, pictures of your happy place. Maybe you're growing stuff in your garden or plants or flowers or whatever. We would love to see that pictures of rallies that you've been to or going to. There's another no Kings rally on October 8th nationwide. I'll be going to that one. If you have pictures of sunsets or stuff you're making, right? Or creating or like stuff you do for a hobby. We have so many amazing makers and creators and artists and photographers that listen to this show. Send it into us and that's all you got to do. It's DailyBeansPod.com and click on Contact and just another quick reminder to our Supercast subscribers. Again, something wrong with the email. Supercast is not sending them out. We're trying to get it fixed. Supercast is kind of slow with that. Not sure how long it'll last. But you can still see the pod pics. If you log into Supercast and click on the episode, we'll have a link in the show notes dailybeans.supercast.comsubscriber and you just click on the episode title to see the show notes and the pod pics. Also, you might want to bookmark that link just in case and if you're not a subscriber, become one. Patreon.com mullershiroad or dailybeans.supercast.com we would love to have you as part of the Leguminati. It's a really great community and we do a lot of fun stuff. We have a lot of parties and galas that only patrons get first tickets to and live events and you get to show early. You get it ad free. You get a weekend bonus episode. There's all kinds of cool stuff. So again, that's patreon.com millershirerote all right, you're good. Trouble as I promised Dear Magnificent Beans Ladies, we love your good News segment and wanted to offer up our latest idea. We are posting copies of Know youw Rights cards at our local library with tear offs for folks who want to go print their own. We'll have a link to the printable version in the show notes and you can do this too, especially at local libraries, supermarkets, bulletin boards, at your local coffee houses. Everyone should know their rights, especially when it comes to the mass dudes in unmarked vans coming in and kidnapping our neighbors. Our pet tax photo features our kitties and butterflies. It's high butterfly season out here in Oklahoma City this week and here's a photo of two beauties in a moment of conjugal bliss. Do you want to guess their species? We'll put the answer at the bottom. The other photo is our cat Wally. Obviously age 12. He's given up on dieting. Same Wally. And in fact, he's attempted to adopt an all snacks diet. I resist his obsession as far as I can, but. Well, you know. All right. I don't think I recognize these butterflies, do you? Oh, you're on mute, my friend. So if you've tried to say anything in the past.
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I have. I've been talking. I have been talking. Sometimes I mute so that because there's construction going on, I've just been chatted up on the other side. So if you think Allison was just real quiet and I was being respectful. Nope. I just don't know how to use technology. The only kind of butterflies I know are monarch butterflies. And there's probably no way.
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Yeah, the only butterflies I know are all the butterflies that you can get in Animal Crossing. And I don't recognize these ones, but the kitty sure is cute. Okay, these are Gulf.
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I want you to say this.
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Gulf Fritillaries.
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There you go.
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They're adorable and beautiful.
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Of course they are.
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I'm glad they're having a good time.
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Yeah. Thank you for that. All right, we've got the missing pod pet tags from yesterday. And I'm glad we have it because they're adorable. My pet tariff is 5 year old Gabby, the brown dog who I think used to be a hunting dog because she will point at squirrels found chilling in Oklahoma. Panhandle. She's winking to let you know everything's gonna be okay. And 10 year old Luna, a big old white dog rescued from a hoarding situation, shown in the car on the ride home. Guess the breed brew in this crew if you must, but to me, mutts are the best.
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They're adorable. And I'm guessing this just part pity, part staffy. And then the other one is just rad dog healer. Pity, amazingness, floppy ears, some sort of hound. But there's no answers.
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So we're right.
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And there's the no King anytime parking sign mentioned yesterday. Awesome. Next up from Anonymous. She her heads up for good news, junkies. Daily kos. Is it KOS or kos? Daily Koss shared good news in a newsletter every morning. And on this Tuesday, Allison was mentioned. If you check out the Daily Diary, you'll find links to so much good news. This photo photo is of Frosty, who I lost yesterday. I'm sorry. Anonymous. What a beautiful, sweet baby. No. Hopper. Yeah.
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Thank you for that. All Right. This is from Deborah M. Pronoun. She and her. Hello laguma ladies. I wanted to shout out to my incredible wife, Charity. Five weeks ago, I took an amazing fall and broke my tibia, fibula and ankle and required emergency surgery. My goodness. When I fell, our puppy Dodie, who was three days from her vaccinations, got loose and found some parvo. Basic parvovirus.
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That's parvovirus?
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Yeah, that's parvovirus in the ground. So when I came home from the hospital, the puppy went to the animal er. She nearly died on day two. We were called to say goodbye, but she fought hard and spent eight days in critical care. For that entire week, Charity took amazing care of me. And every day when I took a nap, she drove the 30 minutes to visit Dodie at the the vet and encourage her to come home. Charity carried all that stress and fear, telling me only the good news while I healed and tried not to blame myself. I'm happy to report that Dodie is back home, healthy as ever, and with vet bills, she's worth as much as my first car. Meanwhile, I'm still on crutches and basically helpless and useless. But Charity is there for me whenever I need a drink, a blanket, and anything else. She's always been a wonderful partner, but in the last few weeks, I've truly realized how lucky I am that she picked me. Thank you for all you do. I never knew how much I needed news with swears until I found you. Now I listen first thing every morning. Yours in Fuck yeah, Deb. For my Podpet tariff, I give you a picture of Charity. She's the shorty in the vest on our wedding day with my three kids. Her dating profile said no kids, but I conned her into marrying me anyway. She's taken to parenthood like a champ, and I'm so grateful for how she loves our kids. For fun, I'm adding the X ray of my leg post surgery with a new metal rod and seven pins and screws. I'm bionic. Finally, I'm adding a picture of Dodie, this $15,000 dog. Guess your breed and I'll put the answers below.
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My goodness.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Beautiful photo. Gosh, everyone looks so amazing in this photo, I can't tell you. I know the metal pin and screws is makes my. That gives me, like, empathy pains. I know the dog Dodie is adorable.
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Beautiful black lab staffer.
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I don't know. Ciao.
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What do we have? Rottweiler and border collie.
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Very cool mix.
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Very cool mix.
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Beautiful mix and that's just amazing. I'm so glad Dodie pulled through and what a great partner, right? This is my biggest fear living alone being the single over educated cat lady in menopause is that one of my cats will try to kill me and there is no one to rescue me. I'll just have my best friend drop in on on the our robot overlords. Maybe that. Maybe that'll help. Thank you so much for that. Next up is Sue Pronoun. She and her hi from Wisconsin. One of the elementary schools in our city just installed this communication board on the playground picture attached, the school wrote, quote, this will allow students to better communicate with peers and staff during recess, no matter their communication differences. Students can point to the icon to share how they feel or what activity they want to do, as well as interact socially with peers. The board includes both English and Spanish translations, American Sign Language Alphabet, and an Alphabet board that allows students to spell out words. Five schools in our district have Newcomer programs for students who have recently arrived in the U.S. our city has a history of welcoming those from other countries and helping them integrate into our community, which makes life better for all of us. I'm happy to be raising my kids here where the teachers and school staff treat all students with care and respect they deserve. Thank you for your podcast. I listen on my way to work each morning and it helps give me hope in these unreasonably stupid times. Look at this communications board. That's so cool. That is so great. I bet that's like really? I mean, I think it just sort of opens up all sorts of access to all the kids. Thank you, Sue.
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Yeah. All right. This is from Fix it Dave. Pronounce it.
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Fix it Dave. I might need Fix it Dave.
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I know. I thought you and your legumers might want to know that there's hope for progress through the generations. My 19 year old granddaughter and her dad, my son, are semi regulars at an open mic in Ottawa one evening. Another regular, let's call him Mike, shows up wearing a dress. That's different, says my son. To which his daughter replies, oh, I forgot you guys still noticed stuff like that. For my terror, if I attach a photo of Humphreys boarding a banana, he dawned in a bandana. Sorry, A bandana he donned in June and doesn't seem to want to take off. As a Canadian, I considered adding 35% to my tariff, then decided to fuck it. I will not obey in advance. However, I thought you might enjoy a snap of our aforementioned granddaughter when she was new to the world. And I was a new grandparent. Love you both. Love the show. Bond courage to all resisters everywhere. You, sir, are a handsome bloke with that granddaughter.
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Mm. That baby and the doggo. So adorable. I love that. Oh, I forgot you guys noticed stuff like that.
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Yep. That's great.
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Thanks. Fix it, Dave. Let me know what you can fix. Send a list of things you you can fix. But I don't know. You'd have to travel to the United States. Who wants to do that? All right, next up from Jay Pronoun she and her for the good news section. Dear AG and dg, you recently read a submission about a young man who narrowly escaped being run over when he went into a busy street. And an incensed passenger in the car hollered, you, you dummy. It made me laugh and reminded me of the following gem of a story that took place when I was little. My patient and loving mother was driving somewhere when she was cut off by another car at an intersection. Silently incensed, my mom carefully proceeded through the intersection. When it was safe, put on her turn signal in order to pull over to the side of the road, safely rolled down her window and yelled, shit ass. In the general direction of the long departed car. She then rolled her window back up, put on her turn signal, and pulled away from the curb to continue on her way. Our parents never swore, so we were dying of shock and silent laughter in the backseat. The story made its way through our whole family, and we teased her about it for decades. To this day, whenever two or more of our offspring are gathered in a car and another driver cuts us off, we immediately start rolling down the windows and say, shit ass. And then we laugh and laugh. She has since passed on, but we can hear her chortling away with us. Oh my God, that's so hilarious. When I first heard my mom swear, it was Dana, it was after I had graduated high school is the first time I heard my mom swear.
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Oh, wow.
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And what she said was, I was like, I just asked her kind of out of the blue because, you know, I went to Catholic school. We went to Mass every week. I went to mass in school on Thursdays every week, and then on Sunday with the family, Mass every week. And I said, you know, since I graduated, we haven't, why haven't we gone to church? And she said, oh, fuck, Ally, I was never Catholic. We just went to church because it seemed like the right thing to do. But to be fair, dad was Catholic, and Dad's very Catholic parents wanted to have Catholic babies So there we were.
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Oh my gosh.
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So funny.
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That is very. I love those stories, though.
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So good. Everybody, thank you so much for your good news. We needed a really, really good, good news dump this Friday and we got it. So. So hats off to all y'.
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All.
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Please send your good news in so we can have equally as awesome good news segments on Monday and Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. You can send it in to us@dailybeanspod.com click on Contact. Do you have any final thoughts? I'm so excited for your show tonight. Are you nervous?
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I am a little bit nervous. I'm standing on stage with a bunch of powerhouses, but I get to also do the live auction, so I'm sort of in my wheelhouse and I've got a little tool that the rest of the room doesn't, so I just got to sit in that sweet spot.
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And you are always just so funny. Like deadass without failure. Like, my thing I'm most excited for is for them to see you.
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Thank you. Everyone seems to be very excited that I'm at the event. That's what the event people keep telling me. Everyone's really excited you're going to be here. I'm like, great.
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So good. All right, everybody, we'll be back in your ears on Monday. You can listen to Unjustified Sunday. There's a bonus cleanup out this weekend. I'll have the Beans bonus out this weekend for Daily Beans patrons. And until then, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health, and take care of your family. I've been ag. I've been dg and them is the Beans. The Daily Beans is written and executive produced by Allison Gill with additional research and reporting by Dana Goldberg. Sound design and editing is by Desiree McFarlane with art and web design by Joelle Reader with Moxie Design Studios. Music for the Daily Beans is written and performed by they Might Be Be Giants and the show is a proud member of the MSW Media Network, a collection of creator owned podcasts dedicated to news, politics and justice. For more information, please visit mswmedia.com msw media.