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Friday, June 26, 2026 Today, another federal judge has permanently blocked Trump's order restricting mail-in voting; the Supreme Court has stripped temporary protected status from 350,000 Haitians and Syrians, and blocks asylum seekers at the border; vendors have been told to begin dismantling the Alligator Alcatraz concentration camp; massive earthquakes rocked Venezuela, Japan, and California; the Pentagon restored flu vaccines after hundreds fell ill; Senate Republicans caved on yesterday's War Powers Resolution; US Park Police seek to identify a person who touched the water in the reflecting pool a week ago; Jamie Raskin will open a discharge petition to force a vote on the $1.8B Slush Fund; a judge wants answers on why the tarp hasn’t been removed from the Kennedy Center facade; plus Allison delivers your Good News.
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Amanda Sturgill
It's no surprise that newsmakers try to manipulate the audience. They want you to believe that they are the one holding the line, and they'll use any trick they can to get you there.
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Alison Gill
But don't let them fool you.
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Alison Gill
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John Fugelsang
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John Fugelsang
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Alison Gill
Daily Beans. Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Friday, June 26, 2026. Today, another federal judge has permanently blocked Trump's order restricting mail in voting. The Supreme Court has stripped temporary protected status from 350,000 Haitians and Syrians, and it blocked asylum seekers at the border. Vendors have been told to begin dismantling the alligator Alcatraz concentration camp. Massive earthquakes rocked Venezuela, Japan, and Californ. The Pentagon restored flu vaccines after hundreds fell ill. Senate Republicans caved on yesterday's war powers resolution. US park police seek to identify a person who touched the water in the reflecting pool a week ago. Jamie Raskin will open a discharge petition to force a vote on the $1.8 billion slush fund in the house. And a judge wants answers on why the tarp has not been removed from the Kennedy center facade. I'm your host, Alison Gill. Hey, everybody. Another record breaking news day. The stories just keep piling up and piling up. If you want to get all of the headlines and all of the articles that I cite in these podcasts that Dana and I do, you can subscribe for free to my substack@melisserote.com and write in your inbox every morning all the headlines, a link to the show, and a link to every single news source that we cite. I think a lot of people are finding that helpful, and it's just a little bit of a extra work on our part, so I figured it would be useful to you. Again, you can subscribe for free@melouchyrogue.com and get all those headlines right in your inbox so you can see what the upcoming Daily Beans is going to be about. It is Friday, and so that means it's fugal sang Fridays we'll be talking to John Fugal sang later. Dana is still out. She'll be back next week. She's traveling, doing some work. And we have some late breaking news before we get to the hot notes. This is from the New York Times. Cruz began dismantling a state run immigration detention center in the Everglades on on Monday in Florida, signaling its closure even as state and federal officials continued to say little about the shutdown of a year old facility that they once praised. On a near daily basis. State officials informed vendors in a call Monday morning that they could begin demobilizing or taking down the tents, fences, trailers and other structures at the detention center known as Alligator Alcatraz, according to three people familiar with the call. Vendors are supposed to make significant progress on the work by Wednesday, according to two of the people. This directive came days after the Department of Homeland Security said that all detainees had been transferred out of the remote center, which opened a little less than a year ago. Too much fanfare From Trump and Governor Ron DeSantis last week after Homeland Security said that the detainees had been moved out. A lawyer for the environmental groups that sued vowed to continue the lawsuit over what he called the secret gulag in the Everglades. Quote, they hope that they can slink away in the middle of the night without explaining to anyone what they did, why they did it or how they proposed to clean up the mess that they've made. That's the lawyer, Paul J. Schweep, and that's what he said at a virtual news conference on Wednesday and concluded with and we don't intend to let them get away with it. And a blockbuster story that's breaking right now. Remember our friend Katie Fang who's over on the Midas Touch Network? She sued to get at the Epstein files that Todd Blanche and the Department of Justice have either redacted or withheld. She said, I am a journalist. I am unable to do my job as a journalist reporting on the Epstein files. I have been harmed. Therefore I have standing. I don't have alternate remedies such as the Freedom of Information act that won't work here. So I am asking you, the court to force the release of these files. Judge Emmett Sullivan today has granted Katie Fanck's motion to release the files or at least explain the redactions. He concluded she has standing, she has been harmed. There are no alternate remedies and has given Todd Blanche until July 2 to put up or shut up. And I'm going to be interviewing Katie this Sunday at noon Pacific Mark your calendars this Sunday at noon Pacific live on the breakdown, which is aired on the Midas Touch Network so you can mark your calendars again. Join us live Sunday at noon Pacific. And I'm going to be posting a link to how you can join us on my Blue sky account about an hour before we go live. You should also see it in our couple of Facebook groups on my Facebook page. But that's where you can get that information. Highly recommend you check it out. That's just an incredible story. Very novel legal case mostly. You know, we kind of all figured that the judge would come back and say, no, I can't issue a preliminary injunction because you could always use the Freedom of Information Act. You could always make a Freedom of Information act request. That's not what Judge Emmett Sullivan has done here. And so we're going to keep an eye on this. Of course, a lot of folks are asking what happens if he ignores the court order? Same thing that always happens when the government ignores a court order. Katie could file a motion, the judge could issue a show cause notice, an order to show cause for the government to come in and say why they aren't complying with his order. Contempt proceedings could open. It's a very long process, but every single paper cut, when you're trying to cause death by a thousand paper cuts is important and meaningful. And here we have an independent journalist filing a lawsuit, taking her time and her resources along with her lawyers and to file this lawsuit. And she got her preliminary injunction. I can't wait to speak with her again Sunday noon Pacific time. There'll be a link out on my socials for it. All right, we have a lot of news to get to. Let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes. All right, first up from the American Immigration council. Today the US Supreme Court issued two seismic immigration law decisions ruling 6 to 3 in the Trump administration's favor in each case. The first case, Mullen v. Doe, overturns lower court decisions blocking the Trump administration's move to end TPS Temporary Protected Status for roughly 350,000 Haitians and 4,000 Syrians. The second, Mullen v. Al Otolato, that endorses a policy dating back to the last months of the Obama administration, which permitted border officials to turn away asylum seekers arriving by land to ports of entry along the U. S. Mexico border. Here is what you need to know about each temporary protected status and Mullen veto. When President Trump took office, roughly 1.3 million people were present lawfully in the United States on TPS, including 350,000 Haitians, the majority of whom entered legally during the Biden administration and were granted TPS following the assassination of Haitian President Jovenel Juaz in July of 2021 and as a result of the ongoing crisis which enveloped the country in the aftermath. Now, when the Trump administration terminated TPS for Haiti, Syria and other countries, the courts determined that the administration failed to abide by required procedures established by Congress. Under those procedures, TPS should only be terminated if an interagency review determines that conditions in the country have improved, meaning Haiti. Documents uncovered during the Haitian TPS case revealed that the Trump administration failed to follow required legal procedures and ignored ongoing dangers in Haiti. Despite this, the Supreme Court ruled 6 to 3 that a provision of the TPS statute limiting lawsuits challenging TPS determinations prevented courts from hearing any lawsuits challenging the Department of Homeland Security Secretary's failure to follow the required legal procedures. In addition, the majority opinion declared that Trump's repeated public denigration of Haiti and Haitians did not rise to the level of unconstitutional racial animus that would permit a court to set aside the TPS decision. And that blows my mind. Crucially, the court did not rule on whether former DHS Secretary Kristi Noem had gone through the required procedure set out by law. Rather, the court said that questions of whether DHS Secretary followed the law cannot be heard by courts in the first place, meaning that in the future, even an openly unlawful decision to grant or terminate TPS could be entirely insulated from judicial review. Once this decision goes into effect in the days or weeks to come, hundreds of thousands of people lawfully present in the United States will lose their status. Many will become undocumented for the first time ever. The decision will also permit the Trump administration to return to federal court in other cases and overturn decisions ruling against the termination of tps. For countries such as Venezuela, Somalia, Ethiopia and others, the impact of this decision is likely to be very significant. In communities with large numbers of TPS recipients, healthcare groups have flagged that thousands of Haitian nurses, home health aides and other healthcare workers are expected to lose their jobs. Beyond Haitian TPS, over 600,000 Venezuelans granted TPS. We're also hoping that a favorable decision would permit them to resume their lawful status in the country. Those hopes seem likely to be dashed now. As of today, nearly 300,000 people still retain TPS that has yet to expire or be terminated by the Trump administration, including almost 200,000 Salvadorans who have had TPS for over 25 years and and 50,000 Ukrainians who have had TPS since the outbreak of the war. They are all now at further risk of losing their protections as the Supreme Court hands a green light to the Trump administration to make pretextual decisions, safe in the knowledge that no court can stop them unless Congress takes steps to provide permanent legal status to TPS holders, hundreds of thousands are now vulnerable to losing work authorization and facing deportation. Now onto turnbacks of Asylum Seekers at the border U.S. law provides that any person who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States may apply for asylum. Congress further directed that immigration officers must inspect any non citizen who arrives in the United States to determine if they should be admitted into the country, a function U.S. customs and Border Protection officers carry out thousands of times per day at ports of entry. Despite These commands, since 2016, the Federal Government has at times turned away new asylum seekers attempting to enter lawfully at ports of entry along the U. S. Mexico border without inspecting or permitting them to access the asylum system. To carry out this metering policy, CBP officers have been stationed at the physical borderline, preventing people perceived to be asylum seekers from physically stepping onto US Soil. Although CBP has at times claimed that this policy was required because of capacity restrictions, DHS's Office of Inspector General found in 2020 that CBP officers routinely turned away asylum seekers despite empty processing cells and ample capacity. OIG also raised concerns, echoed by the courts, that this metering practice incentivized many migrants to cross the border illegally because it was too dangerous to wait in Mexico for months for an opportunity to seek asylum at a port of entry. Today, the Supreme Court blessed the practice of metering, overturning a 9th Circuit decision which had found that CBP had an affirmative obligation to process people who arrive at ports of entry but who have not yet stepped on US Soil after CBP officers have blocked their passage. The court found that there was a difference between arrives in and arrives at the border and declared that only those individuals who have physically set foot in the United States have a right to be inspected and apply for asylum. What the end result of today's decision is that future administrations may now adopt or expand the previous practice of preventing asylum seekers from accessing ports of entry. Although the opinion is careful to explain that, in the court's view, the prior metering policy only delayed rather than denied access to the asylum process during previous periods of metering at the border, thousands of asylum seekers were forced to wait weeks or months in squalid refugee camps along Mexico's northern border and were often preyed on by cartels. Should there be a surge of migration in the future following another crisis in Central or South America, these camps could return if metering resumes. Everybody that is from the American Immigration Council, I highly recommend you sign up for their alerts and that you go to their website and check out everything that they put out. It's always really, really important information. In a related story from HuffPost, Justice Elena Kagan put President Donald Trump's most racist and inflammatory remarks over the last decade about Haitians into the permanent record Thursday, blasting her conservative colleagues on the bench for refusing to put them in print. In a blistering dissent in the Mullen v. Doe case, which we talked about writing for the liberal minority, Kagan quoted Trump directly and noted remarks the conservative majority found too repellent to include. So the majority found these remarks too repellent to include them, but concluded that they aren't at all racist. Quote, the evidence they have offered includes statements by the president so repellent and racially inflected that the majority declines to put them in print. Her dissent included when Trump said, Haitians probably have aids. Haiti is a shithole country. She read this from the bench, haitians are poisoning the blood of America. Haitian immigration is like a death wish for our country. Other statements resurfaced by Kagan included when Trump confirmed at a 2025 rally the remark he made during his first term saying, why is it we only take people from shithole countries like Haiti and Somalia? Why cannot we have some people from Norway and Sweden? Kagan's dissent was a direct rebuttal to Alito's majority opinion, where the majority referred only vaguely to, quote, cited statements Kagan named them, printing the remarks plaintiffs had claimed as evidence of racial discrimination by the Trump administration and that her colleagues had declined to put on the record. Quote, the evidence they have offered includes statements by the president so repellent and racially inflected that the majority declines to put them in print. The statement fairly shout, in their racial undertones and overtones alike, that race entered into the president's resolve to remove Haitians from this country, unquote. All right, next up from the Times, a federal court in Massachusetts struck down crucial components of Trump's executive order that sought to place significant restrictions on mail voting as unlawful, null and void. The order had, in part, tried to use federal oversight of the U.S. postal Service to regulate mail voting. The ruling from Judge Indira Talwani amounted to a broad rejection of the Trump administration's attempts to change federal election procedures through an executive order repeatedly emphasizing that the Constitution grants authority over elections not to the executive branch, but to individual states and Congress. That is why whenever you hear a Republican with their arguing talking points about the SAVE act or about why are you so against voter id, that's not the point. The point is that states set their election rules and if you in your state want to have that rule, go ahead, make it happen, work on that. But the federal executive has no role in administering elections. That's what it boils down to. Whether you want to let everybody vote or let nobody vote. That is a state level and state legislature decision. End of story. It doesn't matter what it is voter id. It doesn't matter. Now on the national level, when you talk about protections for voters, that's when we can start talking about stuff. Protecting the right to vote is the job of the Fed administering the elections. It's up to the states. The Constitution does not grant the president any specific powers over elections, judge Talwani wrote, adding emphasis by underlining the words does not. More than 20 Democratic attorneys general representing states across the country brought the legal challenge in front of federal court in Massachusetts. Now, the ruling focused on two sections of the executive order that sought to create state by state citizenship lists within the Department of Homeland Security and direct the Postal Service to use an unapproved list of voters to guide election mail. Judge Talwani found that the authority to create voter lists and determine voter eligibility rests with the states writing that, quote, the Constitution reserves the power to determine voter eligibility to the states alone. That includes voter id. But she also questioned whether records that the government would be relying on would be able to, quote, track name changes, such as when a woman changes her name at marriage or residence changes when citizens move from state to state. Regarding the provision directing the Postal Service to take more direct roles in overseeing mail voting, Judge Talwani found the agency lacks authority over elections. Quote, no law enacted by Congress delegates authority to control mail in voting to the United States Postal Service. That's what she wrote, adding that the service, quote, lacks statutory authorization to promulgate any binding regulations on mail in voting. Do not have the authority. The judge's ruling comes a day after the Postmaster General, David Steiner, confirmed in a hearing before the Senate that the proposed rule would block mail ballots in states that don't hand over sensitive voter data to the federal government. Where are the don't tread on me people? What do you think this is a national voter registration list with all your personal information? You want the government to have you on a list that is nuts. It's just so bonkers to me that the don't tread on me people are like tread on us daddy and put some stank on it the hell next From Ms. Now President Trump's name is off the John F. Kennedy center for the Performing Arts, but the judge who ordered the center to be restored to its proper name wants to know why the tarp and scaffolding are still covering it. In a new order on the court docket Wednesday, U.S. district Judge Chris Cooper demanded answers on, quote, the purpose for and status of the tarp and scaffolding that Trump and his fellow defendants have erected on the front portico of the center. To the extent they remain by the court ordered deadline of July 31 or within seven days of the Kennedy Center Board of Trustees meeting, whichever is sooner. Cooper, an Obama appointee in Washington, said the information must appear in a joint status report due by that time from the parties in the case brought by Rep. Joyce Beatty, who's a badass Democrat from Ohio, a member of the center's board. She was the one that they put on mute during their calls. She serves as ex officio by virtue of a position in Congress and who was a trustee at the time of the center's purported renaming. Now, the judge also said the forthcoming joint status report, quote, shall apprise the court of any pertinent factual developments as to plans for future construction and operation at the Kennedy Center. But we were talking about this like they took the name down but they left the tarp up because he's, you know, got some tender fifies. And so, you know, somebody's like, well, what's it going to take to get the tarp down? I'm like, probably another court order. So I think that may be where we're headed. And then of course it'll be appealed. And then before it can even be decided on a circuit court, he'll run to the Supreme Court and ask his daddies for the shadow docket to intervene and stop the tarp from coming down because of national security or some shit. Watch. It'll happen anyway. What a baby. All right, next up from the Times, two powerful, powerful deadly earthquakes struck Venezuela just like 39 seconds apart on Wednesday. But in addition to those, two other strong earthquakes struck across the world in less than 24 hours. There's a 5.6 in Northern California at 8:10 in the morning with some reports of injuries and power outages and a 6.9 magnitude quake off the coast of Japan. No reports of serious damage though, but that was soon after the Venezuela. Now experts have said these are all coincidental, right? They don't have anything to do with one another. But at least 188 people have died and 1,500 are injured after a devastating pair of those earthquakes struck Venezuela. It is hard to look at that footage. The second quake was Venezuela's most powerful in more than a century. Now the US has deployed elite rescue teams as Venezuela receives aid from the un, Latin American neighbors and the Vatican, among others. Meanwhile, millions of Venezuelans living abroad are scrambling to contact loved ones. Just terrifying. Sending thoughts and all the positive energy to the folks down there now. Next up from the Associated Press the Pentagon said Wednesday that boot camps for all the military services are once again going to require the flu vaccine for all recruits after Pete Hegseth made the shot optional for the military at the end of April. The development, confirmed by the Associated Press by a Pentagon official, comes amid a growing weeks long flu outbreak at the US Air Force boot camp located at Lackland Air Force Base. It is sick in nearly 300 people now. We first reported on it. It was dozens. The official, though, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss details not cleared for public release, maintained that the permission mandate the vaccinations was unrelated to the outbreak. Taking away Making vaccines optional isn't why we have a flu out. Making flu vaccines optional has nothing to do with why there's a flu outbreak on military bases where 80 to 100 people sleep in bunk beds in one giant open room and all shower together and all work out together and all eat together. It's a mystery that they'd have nothing to do with one another, but we're going to bring the flu shot back just anyways. When Hegseth first announced the repeal of the flu vaccine in April, citing medical autonomy but not for women and religious freedom but not for women, he allowed the services to ask for exceptions or permissions to keep the vaccine mandatory within 15 days of the rollout. The Pentagon official explained that the decision on those exceptions were being finalized earlier in June and the timing with the outbreak at Lackland was just a coincidence. Only 40% of the new trainees moving through the boot camp at Lackland opted to receive the shot once it became optional, according to a source familiar going from 100% to 40% and then you get an outbreak. Completely coincidental, right? Man, everything, they just fuck it up and then they have to go back and fix it. Whether it's doge and they fire too many people and they got to bring them back or they Fire. Too many people from the Nuclear Regulatory Agency. Oh, shit, we got to bring them back. Or they pull the water out of the reflecting pool and fill it with city water that feeds algae and there's a bloom up. We got. Oh, it's vandals. We'll have to fix it. Stuck with this ridiculous and deadly war in Iran. Oops. Ah. Anyway, I know y' all are just as frustrated as me, and I'm preaching to the choir. Next up from abc, US Park Police are seeking assistance in identifying a person wanted in connection to a destruction of government property investigation related to the attack on the Capitol.
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John Fugelsang
No.
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Alison Gill
Related to the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool. Park Police posted on social media Wednesday a video of the alleged incident that shows a person in a big crowd of people in a hugely crowded area kneeling down and reaching into the reflecting pool and appearing maybe to pull something from the water. Although the video is kind of blurry and shot from a really long distance. ABC News has reached out to the National Park Service and Park Police about the source of the video. Did you make it? Is it AI? If you're going to do an AI video show somebody in scuba gear slicing a 300 foot violent slit down the middle. Still no evidence of that. Bullshit. Apparently this incident occurred in the dark of night at 3:30 in the afternoon on Friday, June 19th. Park Police said anyone with information on the identity of the random individual among hundreds of people at the Lincoln Memorial who touched the water should contact their tip line. The White House has yet to provide evidence that showed the alleged vandalism to the site. And from Politico, Jamie Raskin, top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, is launching a campaign to force a floor vote on legislation that would formally block The Trump administration's $1.776 billion anti weaponization slush fund. He wants to put these guys who are running for office this midterm election on the record whether or not they support the slush fund and the tax immunity for Donald Trump. It's called the no Carte Blanche Act, a tongue in cheek nod to Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche. Get it spelled the same. Also would explicitly bar payouts from the judgment fund, a preexisting account for settlements to people who stormed the Capitol on January 6th. So you might have heard us report this a little bit earlier, that, folks, January 6th defendants are seeking an alternate way to get paid by the government using the Federal Tort Claims act, which is, you know, you just file this thing with the government and the DOJ says, yeah, you get money, you get money. It's it's how Carter page got $1.25 million and Michael Flynn got $1.25 million. So what he's saying here, what Jamie Raskin is saying here, is that not only can you not just use taxpayer money and create an anti weaponization slush fund, but you aren't allowed to use the judgment money in the treasury at all. For anyone who stormed the Capitol on January 6th. I love this. I love this so much. Now, while Blanche, who will sit in for confirmation hearings on July 15 to run the Justice Department in a more permanent capacity, he recently told lawmakers that the administration is abandoning the effort amid bipartisan backlash. And he. But he refuses to put it in writing. Quote, this is why Congress must act to comprehensively shut down the shameful shakedown once and for all. That's what Raskin said. He went on to say, the people's representatives must decide whether to uphold the rule of law and protect taxpayer dollars or stand aside as this unprecedented corruption spins out of control. Raskin is attempting to compel a floor vote on his bill through what's called a discharge petition, where if 218 members sign it in support, it requires Mike Johnson to bring the measure up for a vote. It's a maneuver that members of both parties have deployed with success in recent months due to the GOP's slim majority. And it's possible it could work this time, too, with a small number of House Republicans on record opposing the fund. They got to go run for office. Not all senators do, but every single member of the House of Representatives has to win reelection every two years, including this year, and he wants to get them on record. I love this. It will likely face an uphill battle getting the necessary 60 votes in the Senate to become law. But an earlier attempt from Democrats to block the anti weaponization fund from going into effect failed 50 to 49 in the Senate. But again, it's not really about that. It's about getting all these House members on the record about whether they want to pay cop beaters out of taxpayer money, whether it's through a weaponization fund or whether it's through federal Tort Claims Act. I think this is brilliant. I hope he gets the signatures he needs to to force this discharge petition. I think we've had 14 or 15 discharge petitions this Congress. I've never seen anything like it. I mean, throw that on the pile of shit that we've never seen anything like, but you catch my meaning. All right, everybody. It is Fugal Sang Fridays. We're going to talk to John right after this quick break and then we'll have the good news. Stick around. We'll be right back after these messages. We'll be right back. 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Rainy Day Rabbit Holes is a history podcast about unhinged stories that make you stop and ask, wait, is this real life? From crazy disasters and tasty scandals to enlightening and surprising, heartwarming tales, we explore the moments where people behave badly and sometimes beautifully. We've Got naughty politicians, cultural chaos, and a deep love for the Pacific Northwest, including Bigfoot. It's thoughtful, irreverent, occasionally serious, and always entertaining. Let's fall down the rabbit hole. MSW Media. Hey everybody, welcome back. It's Friday on the Daily Beans, which means it's feagle saying Friday. So joining me, New York Times best selling author of the New York Times best selling book, Separation of Church and Hate. Also, he hosts Tell me everything on SiriusXM progress channel 127, weeknights, 9pm Eastern, 6 Pacific. He also has the John Fugelsang show podcast if youf don't have Serious. And he also has a substack. And I mean, pretty much if you Google John Fugelsang, you're gonna find.
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John Fugelsang
Yeah, there's way too much out there. I mean, I should, I could stop now. I mean, I've overscaled. It's, it's too much.
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Alison Gill
I don't think so, my friend. Please welcome John Fugal saying Hello.
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John Fugelsang
Thank you, Dr. Gill. Thank you to your very attractive audience. And boy, how much fun is it to watch Donald Trump and the Republicans at the finding out part of their toxic relationship. I'm glad we live to see this.
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Alison Gill
Their literal toxic relationship. Cyanotoxic relationship.
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John Fugelsang
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've reached the finding out part and they're doing it on C Span.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, and you and I were talking offline like you're, you're like, I can't. Resistance is futile. We have to talk about the reflecting pool.
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John Fugelsang
You know, I do this show every night at what the hell o' clock on SiriusXM progress. Dr. Gil. And, and I like to pride myself on having standards. I try not to indulge in too much trash. And for a long time I just said this is a non story. Come on now, come on. There's, there's people dying. We don't need to talk about the fact that our government is losing the war on pond scum. There's, there's serious things. There's, there's, My God, the Iranians are laughing at us, right? Like, like, I mean, but now it's, it's, it's too beautiful. I, I, I'm talking about it every night now. I mean, we've entered that magical stage where the COVID up is somehow worse than the fuck up. It used to be the COVID ups worse than the crime. Now under this regime, it's. No, the COVID up's now worse than the fuck up. This was going to be the most beautiful reflecting pool. Do you Remember the promises we were given, Dr. Gill? Tremendous. The best. The best pool anything has ever reflected.
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Alison Gill
Big strong man came to me with tears in his eyes and said it
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John Fugelsang
was going to be $14 million. Mr. Trump, please, I. Tears in my eyes. Only 14 million for a large tiled rectangular puddle. Let me just say, after all I've learned About this, for 3 million, Allison, I could have personally filled that thing with Evian water and rented two live dolphins. For 3 million. I've looked into it. I could have done it for three. And normally it's another great metaphor for Trump, right? Like they don't know what they're doing. They're completely dishonest. It's all a grift, you know, he's getting a taste of whatever this 14 million is going to be. But then the COVID up, then the lies and then the dead ducks. Alison, they're killing the ducks. They're killing the ducks. Do you understand? For him to claim now that this is vandalism, not poor filtration, which causes algae. But there's this shadowy cabal of algae extremists who are sneaking up to a giant public fountain to deploy phosphorus late at night. George Soros, while Hunter Biden distracts the police. They're going. The aquatic terrorists, the Al J antifa. They're not sabotaging Congress, Dr. Gill, not the White House, not the Pentagon. They're sabotaging a pond. They're sabotaging the reflecting pool. That's the antifa agenda. The entire world knows how stupid we are. These people don't believe in climate science, but they want us to believe in antifa aquatic biology. And at this point, they're pouring chemicals into the reflecting pool. All the hydra. The reflecting pool has now had more treatments than Wayne Newton's face. Donald Trump comes out and says, well, someone came in there at night and cut a 300 foot slit in the.
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Alison Gill
Violently.
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John Fugelsang
Violently. And that. It's awkward. That was my wife's punk band in college.
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Alison Gill
That's my joke. I made that joke.
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John Fugelsang
But, but like, again, it, it's, it's perfect. I mean, for the ducks. It must be crazy for the ducks. They were like, this was already water. What are you doing? I'm waiting for Jeanine Pirro to start arresting suspicious geese. Like, there's three duck corpses now. And Trump's like, look what the vandals did. But this is the greatest metaphor we've had. They keep topping themselves, metaphorically. This is massively over budget, constantly breaking. Nobody asked for it. No one takes responsibility. Wildlife is suffering. And the blame lands on imaginary enemies. This is hitting the trifecta of everything Trump and I. I've been totally converted to this and now I'm making jokes all night about this giant, you know, matcha blend in our reflecting pool. Well, they're arresting people for this. It's like, it's like when the fascism and kakistocracy reaches this level of stupidity, I think that becomes the real story more than pond, Scott.
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Alison Gill
It is, it's that. And like you said, it's the literal, physical, tangible manifestation of corruption, idiocy, not believing in science, all of it. Just toxicity, if you will. Everybody knows. And the Park Service has admitted that when he refilled the thing, he refilled it with city water, which contains phosphates. Because D.C. city Water is treated with phosphates.
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John Fugelsang
Yeah, that's why he gets to say the word Hussein a lot to keep
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Alison Gill
water leaching from the old lead pipes. Right.
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John Fugelsang
But then he can say, Barack Hussein Obama tried to move in water from the river, and that allows him to say Hussein, which is the clip that Fox News needs.
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Alison Gill
Right.
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John Fugelsang
That's how they win through this.
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Alison Gill
You want to use the river water because it's got fewer phosphates in it. But of course, violent vandals. And now, by the way, the Park Service on, on Twitter has put up a video of what they bill as the vandalism to the pool, thinking, oh, they have video of the violent 300 foot slit. No, it's one person kneeling down and just kind of touching the water on the edge of the.
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John Fugelsang
Yeah. I mean, and it's like, and, and why shouldn't they, like, why shouldn't they help us find these terrorists? This outrageously stupid. Like, I mean, when, when you can come out and say that Renee Good and Alex Preddy were domestic terrorists and there's no consequence. Why not lie about the park system? Right? I mean, like, like this is how it is. There's not going to be any adult coming into the room. We're witnessing the consequences of other adults overseas right now. I mean, Italy's had it with us, the Iranians. I mean, I'm now believing that this whole thing is just like. I think Trump is feigning dementia just to humiliate J.D. vance at the Iran negotiations. God help me, Alison, I'd respect it if that's what Trump is doing. But the lies he's telling there while we're in negotiations, it's like, it has an impact in other societies. But here's no, come on out and come on out and say that they're. They're giving transgender reassignment surgeries to kids at public schools during school hours without parental consent. Just say that. Say that shit. No one cares. The media doesn't care. You'll suffer no consequence for saying that women are giving birth to babies and they're now murdering the newborn babies. If you want to come out and say Haitians are eating pets and it's proven to be a lie, and it's proven by the Wall Street Journal and the police department and the governor and the mayor, and the lady who lost her cat comes out and says, I found my cat in basement. And J.D. vance even admitted that this was all because they had to have this narrative. They were defending the truth, so they had to lie to defend the truth. And these Haitians, 350,000 souls invited to this land after the earthquake, after the instability of their government. Our own State Department won't let Americans visit Haiti right now. I've been there. These are the most beautiful people in the world. And our own State Department will not let Americans visit Haiti. The advisory is it is not safe to go. And they have been trying to deport these 350,000 souls to a place they admit isn't safe for us to go. They don't care what's going to happen to these little girls. They don't care what's going to happen to these families and children. And we've been witnessing this. And God bless the people of Ohio, these Republicans who've realized, oh, these Haitians have really integrated themselves into our healthcare system. They've all got jobs, they're paying taxes, they're contributing to the community. They're stimulating the local economy. And if we deport them all, we're going to have a lot of sickle white folks with no one to take care of them at this point.
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Alison Gill
We're going to have a home health crisis. We are.
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John Fugelsang
And then the John Roberts Supreme Court just came out and said, go ahead and send them back. Joe Biden and this country welcome these people here. They have suffered racism and lies from this godless administration. They have suffered so much abuse, and all they've wanted to do is pay taxes and work hard and contribute to their communities. And that's what they've done. The Republicans in Ohio don't want them gone now because they're so integral to the economy. But this is the racism. And the hero of the week for me is, is Justice Elena Kagan, because they tried to pussyfoot around this in the Supreme Court, and Justice Kagan made sure to personally read into the Supreme Court record the list of Donald Trump racist comments about the people of Haiti. So history would know exactly what was going on here.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, but Alito says, well, yeah, that's not racist. When you break up Memphis and send, you know, dilute the votes into three things, of course.
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John Fugelsang
Yeah. Well, no, I mean, you know how it works. It's not racist until a conservative white person hears another white person say the N word in a recording.
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Alison Gill
Right.
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John Fugelsang
Only then is it, did, you know this? This is how. This is science. Only when a white person hears the N word does anything, systemic or otherwise, actually become racist. So Alito's exactly right. He hasn't heard the N word. So there can't be racism. There's a black president. There's no more problems.
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Alison Gill
Right.
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John Fugelsang
I think this is what they're doing, and they tell each other this, and everyone's saying, no, no, that's not true. Y' all are just some damn racists. And we're too afraid to say it.
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Alison Gill
And I think a lot about this because obviously the racism is the point. The cruelty is the point. The ethnic cleansing is the point, you know, which is Stephen Miller and Alito and their ilk. But also, you know, I sit and I think, to what end? And my, you know, my number one. I should say the number one thing for them is to. To retain power. To. To continue to retain a minority. Majority. Correct. Of power. Minority meaning Republican only.
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John Fugelsang
Religion. That's their only. That's. That's all Christian nationalism is. It's just about power.
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Alison Gill
And here's how this helps them with that. When you deport as many people as you can and we recount people in the census in 20, 30, those folks count. When you talk about how many districts a state gets, that's true. You don't have to be counted as only a citizen. Any person living in that district is counted for census purposes. And when you.
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John Fugelsang
Well, that's the scandal of prisons, too. That's the scandal of private prisons.
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Alison Gill
Private prisons as well. And so when you imprison people in the red states and deport people from the blue cities, guess what happens? Guess what happens. You get more Republican seats in Congress.
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John Fugelsang
Yeah, of course they know what they're doing. I mean, yeah. You know, they don't care about the tax base shrinking. They just care about them becoming greater in power to shrink the tax base for their donors. Let me quote Congressman Don Bacon, Republican, who said In April, removing TPS status for Haitians living in the U. S. Would cost350,000 workers, their ability to work at a time when we're already facing serious war workforce shortages. I've heard from healthcare providers and business leaders across Nebraska concerned about the impact this would have on patient care and our economy. I don't see the goodness of deporting people who are here legally working and contributing to our country. That's a Republican. And that used to be the conservative point of view. And the only reason they're deporting these people on whom local economies depend is the color of their skin. They're doing it. It's happening. White people can't play dumb about this anymore. I know that a lot of establishment Democrats have Republican friends and one wishes to be tasteful in D.C. but if we don't start saying our word more, I mean, again, everybody read Elena Kagan's dissent and, and the actual quotes of the President that prompted all this that she read into the record. If you're a white Africaner, come on down. But if you're from Haiti, the President will make sure the words country are set into a microphone.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. With Alito with his fingers in his ear saying, la, la, la, la. That's not racist.
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John Fugelsang
That's what he has to. That, that, that's, that's his whole life, isn't it? He's got flags to fly.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And, and again, just drives home the point. We absolutely have to get the Senate back. We have to block every single Supreme Court nominee that Donald Trump puts forward. When Thomas and Alito do retire in the next two or three years, then we have to elect a Democratic president, and then we have to make sure we hold the House and the Senate, kill the filibuster and it, and add four seats to this.
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John Fugelsang
And listen, I mean, the Democratic Senate, I want assurances, I want assurances from Schumer or whoever's running the Democratic Senate after January because I kind of get the feeling it'll be different leadership after the midterms. But I, I want to know that Merrick Garland is now going to be a verb and that any Supreme Court nominees to replace a retiring or God forbid, ailing Alito or Thomas is met with Merrick Garland as a verb. They are going to Merrick Garland, what we call the out of any nominee Trump tries to put forward and not allow a vote the same way.
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Alison Gill
Block them all.
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John Fugelsang
Go ahead. I mean, Mitch McConnell decided for one year that America would have an eight justice Supreme Court and the black guy was the president who was denied just an up or down vote on his duly appointed nominee. So again, it's not about petty revenge. I don't believe in revenge. I believe in policy and I believe in justice and balance and restitution. And once we have all of it, if the Democrats line it all up, up. We've talked about this. I think we've reached the point where the ones who talk about adding judges to have 13 to match the appellate number, I think those guys are going to. And those women are going to do better in fundraising. I think they're going to generate more excitement. Look at who won in New York State on primary.
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Alison Gill
Yep. I was just going to bring it up.
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John Fugelsang
Nothing against Dan Goldman, you know, great prosecution of the impeachment. He's great on tv. He, he, I, I'm not a fan of all the APAC money, but he's someone I've always respected. But I mean, Brad Lander, it wasn't even close. It was like 19,000 to 11,000 when they called it. And Dan Goldman's famous, like, this is young people showing up. This is a whole different kind of agenda. And it's not about hating the right. It's about let's cut this out and get back to FDR time. I think Franklin Roosevelt is going to be the real star of the next two years in this country. And I think more and more people are going to have to learn that if government policies got us into this mess, then government policies can bloody well get us out.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And here's the thing too. You know, I'm looking back at some previous election cycles. In this election cycle, when you talk about progressive candidates or Democratic socialists versus centrist or establishment candidates, you get to a point where if in the primaries you elect progressive candidates, centrist candidates will still, the olds will still come out and vote.
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John Fugelsang
Yeah.
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Alison Gill
For the progressive candidates. Whereas if the opposite is true and
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John Fugelsang
they help the centrist, if more young people are showing up because of exciting dynamic style candidates, that's only going to help the centrists in their district. When young people show up to pull the lever for D anyway.
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Alison Gill
But if the opposite is true and you get a centrist candidate, you aren't going to get all progressives voting for that centrist candidate.
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John Fugelsang
Fair enough. You bear, you won't. And that's. Then that's.
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Alison Gill
The winning combo is to elect progressive candidates. I mean, that's just, it's not even a combo. It's just a one thing that you need to do.
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John Fugelsang
But you know, well, the winning can, I think the winning, the winning combo is to elect candidates who are talking about dramatic policy changes. To help non millionaires.
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Alison Gill
That's kind of what I mean by progressives. But.
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John Fugelsang
Yeah, yeah, I mean, but that's progressive now. I mean, if a Republican talks about policies to help exclusively non millionaires, they would be called woke and progressive by Fox News and Tucker Carlson, who are still the same thing.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. But they will come back and change their votes on a War Powers Resolution if they're yelled at to.
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John Fugelsang
Well, this was fascinating to me because, like, like, I, I just, I gotta tell you, man, what a st. I mean, they vote 50 to 48 to tell Trump that Congress still exists. Right. This was so humiliating for Trump. Like, they actually said, hey, Grandpa, close your robe before. Before you start World War iii. Do some damn paperwork. First time and since War Powers Resolution came law that Congress has done this. And, and you know why they did it? These four Republicans crossed over because they. They see the midterms. John Thune knew exactly how this vote was going to go. John Thune knew that four of them were going to cross over. This is what John Thune wanted, too. These guys sense the midterms like farm animals sense a tornado. Yeah, right. Like they know what's coming. So they passed this bill and now it's like, oh, we've done something. The Republicans needed to have something they've done legislatively this year to go home and tell the folks, even if it is bipartisan, which they used to brag about. So, so this passes and it was delightful. And then first Trump comes out and says, well, no housing bill is going to be signed until Congress passes the SAVE Act. You know, the toddler's flipping over the monopoly board again. It's like. And. And this is what he did with Ukraine. This is what he did with Zelensky. Approved munitions six years ago, Congress had approved it, and he blackmailed an ally so the ally would help him cheat in an upcoming election. And this week, he did it to his own party. You can't have this legislative victory you've had until you pass the SAVE act, which is going to make it harder for women to vote in the election. They're like, we're literally trying to win the election by doing shit.
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Alison Gill
Both in the War Powers resolution. Walk back. And in the housing.
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John Fugelsang
Yes, yes. So then yesterday is this insane meeting where Trump comes to the Capitol and Bill Cassidy's screaming at him. And Bill Cassidy feels so confident, he comes out and he brags to the media how he was screaming at Trump.
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Alison Gill
And then he changes his.
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John Fugelsang
And then something happened, and somehow Rand Paul decided to turn in his Libertarian card by last night. And they did the vote again. They did the vote again after Congress came out and said, no, Trump, you're not a king. We have to approve this. And. And Trump keeps saying, the war is over. So he had no skin in the game. This is just purely for ego. They did the vote again, and this time Rand Paul votes present. That's Rand Paul. That's how deeply he takes his libertarianism. I mean, he.
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Alison Gill
He.
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John Fugelsang
He voted present. He had to be a coward. He couldn't even flip all the way. He had to be a coward and just have no conviction the next night and make up some BS excuse for it. And Cassidy flipped. It's like, whatever they have on these guys, whatever they have on these guys, they deployed it between yesterday afternoon.
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Alison Gill
Cassidy doesn't even have to run again. Maybe that's what he. Maybe that's why he's like, well, I don't got to convince any voters that.
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John Fugelsang
But Cassidy doesn't have to run again.
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Alison Gill
So that's what I'm saying. He doesn't have to run again, so he doesn't have to convince voters that he is against the war. So.
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John Fugelsang
I know. I mean, so Cassidy. I mean, like, yeah, I expect this from Cassidy. I'd like to see it from John Cornyn, too. And. And Cassidy did it. Cassidy told him off about the Iran war. It wasn't about endorsing his opponent, wasn't about the fact that Cassidy's career is over in the Senate. Cassidy went after him for the war. And then a couple hours later, Cassidy, who's leaving anyway, had changed his mind about Trump.
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Alison Gill
What made him flip?
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John Fugelsang
What could have made him flip in, like, six hours? A guy who's already on his way out. What made him flip? Yeah, this is some Michael Cohen right here, if you know what I'm saying.
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Alison Gill
I do. I know what you're saying. I'm picking up what you're putting down, my friend. All right, well, thank you so much.
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John Fugelsang
Thank you so much.
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Alison Gill
It's always a pleasure to talk to you, and I hope you get some rest. I know you're finishing up this second book and you got a lot of work to do, but everybody.
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John Fugelsang
Oh, listen, I'm. I'm just like you and your listeners. So excited about the. The Iranian ceasefire. I mean, what a great peace deal. I'm like the rest of you. It's just so wonderful to see this happen. We live to see this day. We're losing the war on algae, but we're. We're winning so much.
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Alison Gill
Oh, my goodness. There's just. It's.
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John Fugelsang
It.
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Alison Gill
It gets exponentially worse every day. As you said, how many what the Ago was this one?
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John Fugelsang
But that's the thing. Only allow yourself to be outraged about three what the A day. This is my thing. My fitness tips. Just every day, pick three what the. That you're allowed to be upset about and then commit to it. Okay, if you pick your three what the before the Supreme Court went full Revenge of the Sith on Thursday, then. I'm sorry, there were three what the
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Alison Gill
on the Supreme Court alone.
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John Fugelsang
No, this was the Supreme Court went full Revenge of the Sith. Star Wars Episode 3. I don't like to go Star wars in front of your audience. Your audience deserves something more than that. But I got to do it. I mean, this was like collapse of Republic to hit day. So pick three what the A day that you're going to be outraged about and everything else has to bounce off you. Sorry. You can't get mad about anything else. And that's. That's how I do it. Let. Let. Let anger about three what the. Be your fuel for the day and then protect your soul otherwise, because it's going to get worse. How scared is he that he's whatever. Whatever compromise they burned on Cassidy? I mean, the war's over anyway, right? Like, this shouldn't matter. This is how desperate and scared they are, and this is what the summer is going to look like. Like, this guy is just grievance wrapped in rotting deli meat and he's falling apart, and it's all about ego. His staff is leaking, the cabinet is leaking all over the place. Stop and smell the train wreck, folks. They're going to hurt a lot of people and do a lot of evil things, but, man, it's. It's on its way out. I don't know how this guy's still president in 2029.
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Alison Gill
Man. Ranking what the Is is my scripting.
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John Fugelsang
Ranking what the. Yeah, this is what.
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Alison Gill
That's my scripting method, by the way, honestly.
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John Fugelsang
And this is the era. I've said it before. What the fatigue. That's what I'm calling it. I got Adam Schiff to say it on stage once. It's what the fatigue. Our outrage circuits are burned out. This is what gaslighting is. This is flooding the zone. They want our brains so filled with static, we give up, start vaping and watch Kardashians and check out of the system. So pick three what the. And then protect your heart from everything else the rest of the day and be angry about those what the. Tomorrow.
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Alison Gill
Yep. That's what I do. I. I rank. What the. I get 30 of them and then I say I only got room for four or five headlines today.
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John Fugelsang
You should be on the charts for a self help podcast. We were on the wrong charts. We should. This is holistic, what we're doing here.
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Alison Gill
I've got to pick the correct. What the fucks.
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John Fugelsang
Yeah, some days you pick the wrong what the fuck. And then it's really embarrassing that night at the card game. But what are you going to do?
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Alison Gill
Speaking of gaslighting, Blade runner was released 44 years ago today. And I'd like to quote one of my favorite quotes about this. I think it's Nathan Anderson who said, convincing your girlfriend she's crazy or paranoid is called gaslighting and it's a dick move. But convincing her she's a robot with artificially implanted human emotions is called Blade Runner. And that's a Philip K. Dick move.
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John Fugelsang
That's hilarious.
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Alison Gill
I'd throw that out there for you since you brought up Star wars and we were in the sci fi.
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John Fugelsang
I could talk about Blade Runner for days. Harrison Ford and Ridley Scott still fight over Rick Deckard being a Replicant. They still. They still fight over it.
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Alison Gill
That's fantastic. I would love to be a fly on the wall for that. I am. Director's cut all the way.
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John Fugelsang
That's the whole thing. He is a Replicant and doesn't know it and he starts to figure it out. That's what the. When Edward James almost makes the little unicorn in the end of Origami. That's like, we know your memories. Like, that's how you. He's a Replicant in the end of the movie. And the sequel, which is breathtaking, by the way. The Blade Runner sequel. Everyone should see it. It's astonishingly good. And it continues that. And Harrison Ford still fights Ridley Scott over that.
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Alison Gill
Well, director's cut all the way. When they take that narration out.
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John Fugelsang
The final cut. The final cut. There's Blade Runner and then there's the director's cut. And you gotta watch the final cut
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Alison Gill
of the original Blade Runner.
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John Fugelsang
Yeah, Ridley Scott did two. I am such a nerd. Look what I'm. I'm bleeding my nerdom all over your audience. I try to protect you from deciding
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Alison Gill
and I'm writing it down. Final cut. Watch.
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John Fugelsang
Yeah, they're actually doing a screening in Brookly with a symphony orchestra and a bunch of synthesizers for Blade Runner's anniversary this year.
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Alison Gill
Where is that? New York.
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John Fugelsang
Yeah, New York. That's the most 80s thing you've ever heard, right?
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Alison Gill
Yeah. I wish I could go. All right, my friend, it's been wonderful to speak to you.
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John Fugelsang
Thanks. I know.
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Alison Gill
We'll be back next week, everybody. Tune in to Tell me everything on SiriusXM progress channel 127 weeknights, 9pm Eastern, 6 Pacific. Incredible discussions, incredible guests, and you can call in and give your two cents as well. Also purchase the New York Times best selling book Separation of Church and Hate, available wherever you get your books. But you should probably buy them at independent bookstores and get 10 copies and put them in your little free libraries. Thank you so much my friend John Feiglsang. Appreciate you.
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John Fugelsang
See you soon.
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Alison Gill
Peace everybody. Stick around. We'll be right back with the Good News.
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Amanda Sturgill
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Alison Gill
But don't let them fool you.
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Alison Gill
Everybody, welcome back. It's time for the Good News, everyone.
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John Fugelsang
Then Good news, everyone.
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Alison Gill
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And again, Trevor project.org beans if you want to help us match my $10,000 contribution to the Trevor Project before Pride Month is out, we We've got five days left to raise as much money as we can to help the LGBTQ+Youth. Again, that link is TrevorProject.org beans your donation is tax deductible. All right, first up into good news. Ancient jarhead in Albuquerque pronouns he and him. We should accept people who switch from MAGA to progressive action. As long as the change is sincere and lasting, we should all be able to admit wrongs and make amends, even when they're partly reacting to changes in the political wind. We want to win. We do better when we're pragmatic. For my pet tax, I'm sending a Picture of my late brother's dog Duchess. I don't know if this is where I put her breed, but she's a blank mix. She looks like a yellow lab or a golden retriever by ancient jarhead. Thank you so much for that submission. A golden retriever coyote mix O Randy with the coyotes. Thank you so much. Next up, from Laura Pronoun she and her I'm responding to your request for opinions on whether to support ABC's fight against the FCC. I look at it like I do. Constitutional protections for dirtbags, even the worst people deserve due process, the presumption of innocence, etc. If we start deciding only some people deserve constitutional protections, we're doing the same thing as the Trump administration. I don't care if ABC did shitty things, including donating millions to Trump Trump. If they're being politically targeted by the fcc, we must fight back against that abuse of power. Even if it were Fox or Oann or any of the other horrible propagandist media companies, if it's clear they're being politically targeted, we have to defend it. Think about how the ACLU takes cases that are absolutely abhorrent in some respects because they're fighting for First Amendment rights, even when the people are saying some of the most awful things a person can say. With so many of our rights being eroded and lost, lost, we have to fight every battle to rein this administration's corruption in. We cannot allow Trump to use the government that we're funding with our money as his personal retribution army, no matter who he's targeting. P.S. i'm attaching a photo of my late Grandpa Sandy and OG Antifa World War II veteran Laura, well put, my friend. Really, really well said. Look at this incredible photo of your grandfather standing in front of what looks like a MASH tent. Yeah, incredible. Laura, thank you so much for that input. Next up, Tracy, she and her regarding ABC's fight with the FCC, I believe we all need to stand with them. The View has always tried to allow points of View on its show, and while I don't always agree with their choices of guests, it shouldn't be up to the government to decide who gets to appear. Yeah, ABC capitulated to Trump at the beginning, but kudos to them for standing up since we should try to support that. Tracy, Love it. And from G pronouns he and him. And just to let you know, we had to edit this one for length a little bit. You asked for thoughts about ABC and Disney turning to the people for help. It's pretty clear for me. Please encourage everyone to help them out. In the early days of Trump, what Trump was doing was unprecedented. Even more for Trump 2.0 Trump 2 corruption boogaloo. Since he has clearly learned in the intervening times time and has found allies together with whom he's ramping up the weaponization exponentially it seems. And it'd be one thing if it were just Trump and the FCC they felt like they had to go against. But depending on the day of the week, who can tell whether SCOTUS would defend the Constitution or not? Very good. Very good point. I believe abc, Disney reaching out to their viewers now is an innovative approach to solve the problem. If it's successful, it could set a major precedent for others and that's how we learn as a society how to deal with this. Who says all consumerist protests have to be boycotts and other negative actions? We can organize positively and actively support those companies who are trying to do the right thing. I think asking for our help is one of the most responsible, profound things they've decided to do. It feels to me like they're thinking like a small broadcasting company in trying to involve their community. Look at Disney's prior actions in Florida holding off Ron Baby Trump dedudoos Desantis for as long as possible. And what good was saving Kimmel if we let the rest of the network go down when they asked for help? It turns out that just like the famous mustache with Wilford Brimley attached used to say, it's the right thing to do and a tasty way to do it. Thank you so much guys. Please keep the essential work you guys do. Please keep it up. And even though we all come here for the beans, let's please remember, don't let the bastards grind you down. Cheers, G PS Kitchen Table Days Listener so even though I'm answering your question, I felt I still owed a pet pit tax. So attached his little duck family I get to visit every time I leave work and head to my car. Thanks again. So well put G. You all are incredible. Gotta say, Next up, Francie Jane Regarding ABC and asking people to use their voice, I don't feel compelled to support a private media corporation with my voice. I suppose if you watch a lot of ABC programming, feel connection to the network and that it's done good things for you, maybe it's worth supporting them against a fight with the Trump administration. My sense is that we all pay to watch network programming via the advertisements and as a result they're on their own to fight the government with the profits they make from their programming decisions and advertising revenue. There was a great recent episode of the podcast Organized Money where the guest and the host discussed the liberal inclination to protect liberal corporations. I agree with them. Let the corporations figure it out on their own. We may be in a time of creative destruction where institutions that rode the Post World War II wave are coming to an end. And I don't really know. My approach is that I save my energy to fight for American rights like freedom of speech, bodily autonomy, et cetera. Thank you, Franci. Jane. Next up from Anonymous. Regarding abc, the payout to Trump wasn't over the Harris interview. That was cbs. It was over the George Stephen Stephanopoulos comment. Oh yeah, that's right. That's right. I say we support them now. I believe they've seen the light. Anonymous well corrected. I can't keep all of the lawsuits and capitulations straight in my head. Next up, d from Maryland AG first asked patrons input as to whether we accept ABC's turnaround after early capitulation and my opinion is yes, to take them back into our circle of media acceptance only due to their handling of the Kimmel incident. Incident. They need to stay on track, stop paying Trump and fix the view back to the way it was before the Trump regime. Influence and threats. I do not trust the FCC with my personal information or opinions. Sending an opinion to ABC should suffice. Then they can send opinions from anonymous citizens. Not to be dystopian, but those detention centers are not yet full and I'm not convinced they don't want Democrats in them. Signed one of your longest listening and oldest patrons. No tax. Thank you. Next up, Dave. Dave. Dave's not here. That's what it says. I asked our 10 month old puppy, Francis Bean if she had any thoughts on abc. My thoughts on abc? I don't think about them at all, she said. Look at this sweet puppy. Oh yeah, that, that baby's thinking about scritches and walks and dog park and and whatnot. I hope I didn't just by saying those words drive somebody's dog into hysterics. All right, next up from Anonymous. He, him, hi AG and dg. Regular listener, doing my gigs, driving things to people and people to things. Just wanted to give a shout out to my parents, John and Jackie, who on Friday are celebrating their 60th wedding anniversary. 24 years ago we put together a 60th birthday celebration for my dad who'd been very ill and we thought it might be his last celebration. Now two dozen years later and he made it to his 60th anniversary and we couldn't be happy happier. His health isn't the best these days, but he's still kicking it as a curmudgeonly blue dot in a very red Idaho. My lady love and I are road tripping from our home in Southern Oregon and my brother from his home in Portland to the Idaho Oregon border town of Ontario, birthplace of the Tater Tot, where we've got a VRBO for the family since we won't venture into the handmade state anymore. For my pod pet tariff, I'm submitting a picture of our GMC Barcadian guarded by our chaos of four obvious Chihuahuas ready for the road. I I assume a chaos is a collective noun for a group of Chihuahuas.
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