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Thursday, July 17th, 2025 Today, a federal judge held a hearing in Tennessee on the release of Kilmar Abrego from criminal custody; Democrats scramble to torpedo the confirmation of Emil Bove to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals; Trump continues to lash out over the Epstein files - this time attacking his base as stupid; the Department of Justice requests election data from state officials; the Pentagon retreats from Los Angeles; immigrant activists are suing to stop the arrests of people at their immigration hearings; Republicans are voicing concerns about the government funding bill but will probably vote for it anyhow; a landlord seeks to evict Representative Cory Mills for failure to pay rent. Allison and Dana deliver the good news.
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Alison Gill
MSW Media. Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Thursday, July 17, 2025. Today, a federal judge held a hearing in Tennessee on the release of Kilmar Abrego from criminal custody. Democrats are scrambling to torpedo the confirmation of Emil Bovey to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. Trump continues to lash out over the Epstein files, this time attacking his own base and calling them stupid. The Department of Justice is requesting election data from state officials. The Pentagon is retreating from Los Angeles. Immigrant activists are suing to stop the arrests of people at their immigration hearings. Republicans are voicing concerns about the government fund but will probably vote for it anyhow. And a landlord is seeking to evict Representative Corey Mills for failure to pay rent. I'm Alison Gill.
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Dana Goldberg
And I'm Dana Goldberg.
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Alison Gill
Hey, Dana, how are you today?
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Dana Goldberg
I am good, you know, getting through. I can't say I'm. I can't believe that just came out of my mouth. I just, in this moment, I feel like I'm okay, I guess. So I'm good.
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Alison Gill
It's minute to minute, isn't it?
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah. I got excited because I haven't, I do a lot of galas, but I haven't done a lot of long comedy shows other than the cruise line. And I'm doing it in San Diego and I've been teasing it on the podcast, but tickets are going to be on my website either tonight or tomorrow morning. So if you're in the San Diego area or in driving distance, it's at the Diversionary theater. It's a great theater. Allison knows it well. And it's going to be a really intimate show. There's only 100 seats in the theater. So go to danagoldberg.com and hit my appearances and go find tickets. And if they're not live tonight, they will be tomorrow. So I maybe I'm just excited about getting back on the road.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, it's always fun to go back to long form comedy after not being able to do it for a while, only doing 5 minute chunks at a time. So to have the room to stretch your legs out is always something to look forward to. And I know I'm looking forward to that show. So I imagine everyone else is, too. So we're a little kind of putting the show together. We're kind of building the wings on the plane today because there's just been news breaking after news breaking after news breaking in the last hour or so. It's like a late day news dump. This is pretty rare. But it's happening today because I think a Lot of court things are happening. And so what's going to happen is later in the show, I'm going to be talking with Adam Classfeld from All Rise News. He was in the courtroom today in Tennessee for Mr. Abrego's hearing on whether or not to have a bail hearing. And so he's going to break that down for us. What went down there in that hearing? Also, I need to tell you, Senator Ruben Gallego is introducing a resolution calling on the Justice Department to release its files related to the Jeffrey Epstein probe. John Thune has weighed in on, on television, on, on a major network, saying that he thinks that there should be transparency. Senators are going to weigh this resolution brought up by Gallego behind the scenes. Dana. To determine if there's consent for unanimous consent from all hundred senators to move forward. If there's an objection, which I'm sure there will be, Republicans could, could be forced to raise it publicly on the floor.
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Dana Goldberg
Good.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. So we would have, we would get to know, like, just how we learned in the House which House Republicans don't want the Epstein files released. We would now know about which senators.
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Dana Goldberg
Good.
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Alison Gill
But John Thune, who is the majority leader in the Senate, seems like he's leaning toward transparency. So that's interesting. We also just got a letter from Senator Cory Booker, who's trying. And you're going to talk about this in a little bit in the Hot Notes, but this is an interesting twist. He wants to tie the confirmation of Emil Bovey into the Epstein files by sending a letter to Emil Bovey demanding that he tell the senators what his role was in covering up the Epstein files.
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Dana Goldberg
I, I hope everyone who's involved in this goes down. I mean, the fact that there's so much pressure and that this base is starting to turn, it really gives me, and I hate to say hope because we've had such hope in some things that have never come to fruition. But I really do think this is starting to fracture the base in a way that could damage the midterms. And that brings me joy.
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Alison Gill
Right. And then some. Just also right now, breaking news from Erica Ordon at Politico. One of the top Epstein prosecutors was just fired by the doj by Pam.
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Dana Goldberg
Bonnie.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. Oh, boy. Is right now in Cory Booker's letter to Emil Bovey, he asked Emil Bovey why he put one of the Ghislaine Maxwell Epstein prosecutors on leave back in March. And that's a different prosecutor. Now today, they've fired Maureen Comey. Wow. Daughter of James Comey, who was one of the top prosecutors on the Epstein Maxwell case. So just like, real bad timing and really bad look for the Department of Justice, at least in the eyes of probably the MAGA base.
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Dana Goldberg
So is Gayly Maxwell's conviction federal or state?
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Alison Gill
Federal.
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Dana Goldberg
Okay, so this is what I think is happening. I think they're setting up a ploy to say that the lawyers were compromised, the case was compromised, compromised. And if the Supreme Court's not going to overturn her conviction, we're going to pardon her because this was a hoax. Everyone was compromised. Everyone was in it. So they're setting up these building blocks, and I would not be surprised if you pardons her.
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Alison Gill
Well, then they've already kind of set a little stick of dynamite into their own building block set because they've told the Supreme Court that they do not support her appeal of her conviction.
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Dana Goldberg
Absolutely. That's what they said yesterday. We'll see what they say tomorrow, right?
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Alison Gill
Who knows? But, yeah, because Maureen Comey, Jim Comey's daughter, was one of the prosecutors. I mean.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I just, you know, I don't want this to fizzle out. Gavin Newsom was actually very funny because Trump was like, I just want everyone to know that I talked to the lead of Coca Cola. We're going to get cane sugar back in Coca Cola. I think this is very important, and you'll thank me for it later. Newsom was like, oh, thank God. I've completely forgotten about the Epstein files now.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, man, it's desperate. And he just. He went on another screen on Truth Social today and was like, if you ever believed in the Epstein hoax, you're dumb. I'm calling it the Epstein hoax from now on. You're just stupid that you fell for it. This is another Dem hoax. And if you fell for it hook, line, and sinker, that's sad. I mean, just like he's the one who sold it to everybody, and Pam Bondi's been pitching it since the election, and Kash Patel and Dan Bongino have been selling it. So I guess they were all duped by the big Dem hoax.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah. I just want to say that there have been woman after woman after woman who have testified about what happened. People are just not believing them. And that, again, is part of the core problem in all of this. There's been testimony, truthful testimony from some of the victims, and that should be enough. That should be enough for anyone that has any sort of scruples and moral compass to go lock these sons of a bitch up.
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Alison Gill
One would think. One would think. All right, we have a lot of news to get to today, so let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes. All right, first up from the Washington Post, the Trump administration and its allies have launched a multi pronged effort to gather data on voters, you and I, and inspect voting equipment, sparking concern among local and state election officials about federal interference. About fuckery. Yeah, about fuckery. That's what it should say here in the Washington Post ahead of the 2026 midterms. The most unusual activity is happening in Colorado, a state where the then candidate Donald Trump lost by 11 points, where a well connected consultant who says he's working with the White House is asking county clerks whether they will allow the federal government or a third party to physically examine their election equipment. That sounds really sketch. Yeah. Federal agencies have long offered technical assistance and cybersecurity advice to election officials, but have not examined their equipment because election laws tightly limit who has access. People were arrested for giving unlawful access to, like, Sidney Powell. Yep. To voting machines and Mike Lindell. Like, people have been arrested for this. So now they're just trying to walk right in the front door right now. Separately, the Justice Department has taken the unusual step of asking at least nine states for copies of their voter rolls, and at least two have turned them over, according to state officials.
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Dana Goldberg
Wow.
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Alison Gill
I wish I knew which 2. In addition, 2 Department of justice lawyers have asked states to share information about voters to implement a Trump executive. It would shift some power over elections from the states to D.C. which is unconstitutional. Courts have temporarily blocked key provisions of that order, including changing mail ballot deadlines and requiring voters to provide proof of citizenship. The DOJ attorneys have asked to talk about a different provision, which has not been halted by the courts focused on sharing information. The administration's efforts, fueled by Trump's false claims of the 2020 election was stolen, have rattled state and local election officials from both parties who have spent years contending with these threats and the harassment and litigation. And the reason they're rattled is because it is not the job of the executive or the, you know, the chief of staff or anybody at the White House to oversee elections. It's not your job, okay? That's why election people are rattled in the states. Under the Constitution, as Washington Post says, states are responsible for running elections, and the federal government plays only a limited role, such as by dictating when states must offer opportunities to register to vote that must be spelled out by Congress. Election officials fear the administration could try to build a national file that includes personal information about voters. That's exactly what they're doing.
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Dana Goldberg
Absolutely.
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Alison Gill
Or impose rules that would boot eligible voters from rolls and make it harder to cast ballots. That's also exactly what they're doing. This is an extraordinary imposition of federal power over state election processes that, if it is accepted by the states in this context, will be absolutely used by Democrats in another context. That's what David Becker, executive director of the nonprofit center for Election Innovation and Research, said, who worked in the Justice Department's voting section under Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. Republican election officials in Colorado fielded calls and messages last week from Small, a consultant who has worked with members of Congress, most recently serving as the chief of staff to Representative Lauren Boebert. Small told more than half a dozen GOP county clerks by phone or text that he's working with the Trump administration to ensure the integrity of elections and to advance Trump's election agenda. And that's what county officials told the Washington Post. So this guy who worked for Boebert, named Small, is calling all these county clerks in Colorado saying, I have authorization. Quote, to me it felt like they were wanting to intervene before 2026. That's Justin Grantham, a Republican clerk in Fremont County. Five other Republican clerks raised similar concern. Quote, that's a hard no for me, said Carly Cops, a Republican clerk in Weld county who said she rejected Smalls overtures to allow a federal inspection. Nobody gets access to my voting equipment for security reasons, she said.
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Dana Goldberg
Nice.
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Alison Gill
Fuck, yeah. More than 350 election officials from at least 33 states joined a conference call Monday to learn more from Becker's group and Democratic and Republican lawyers about the potential implications of the administration's moves. Election officials have long bristled at the notion of federal intrusion, and they should it's working against the Constitution. In 2017. During Trump's first term, officials from both parties declined to give a presidential commission detailed information on voters, with Mississippi's GOP secretary of state telling the task force to go jump in the Gulf of Mexico.
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Adam Klassfeld
Wow.
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Dana Goldberg
I hope that keeps up. Stay strong. Hold the line.
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Alison Gill
Hold the line. Well, the Gulf of America. Excuse me?
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Dana Goldberg
How dare you?
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Alison Gill
Right?
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Dana Goldberg
I know it was born the Gulf of Mexico. It has to stay the Gulf of Mexico. From NPR the Pentagon said Tuesday it is ending the deployment of 2,000 National Guard troops in Los Angeles. It's accounting for nearly half of the soldiers sent to the city to deal with protests. Protests, peaceful protests, by the way, at the time over the Trump administration's immigration crackdown. And it was because of ICE rates And them kidnapping people. Yes, that's what it was. Roughly 4,000 National Guard soldiers and 700 Marines have been in the city since early June. It wasn't immediately clear what prompted the 60 day deployment to end suddenly, nor was it immediately clear how long the rest of the troops would stay in the region. In late June, the top military commander in charge of troops deploy to LA had asked Defense Secretary Pete Kegseff for 200 of them to be returned to wildfire fighting duty amid warnings from Governor Gavin Newsom that the Guard was understaffed as California entered peak wildfire season. We need you elsewhere. The end of the deployment comes a week after federal authorities and National Guard troops arrived at MacArthur park with guns and horses in an operation that ended abruptly. Although the U.S. department of Homeland Security wouldn't explain the purpose of the operation or whether anyone had been arrested, local officials said it seemed designed to so fear. And that's exactly what it was. It was also a distraction because Elon Musk and Trump were in that cat fight online and they're like, deploy the troops.
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Alison Gill
The kiat fight. Interesting. So they're retreating. Good, good riddance. Get the fuck out. You know, like, we do not need you here. All right, next up from the Hill, Democrats made a last ditch effort Tuesday to call a hearing with whistleblower Erez Reveni, who said he heard Bovey suggest the Trump administration should consider ignoring court rulings on their plans to send migrants to foreign prisons, with Bovey saying they may tell the courts fuck you, but Bovey looks poised to proceed and be nominated and be confirmed. He's already been nominated. Sorry. As the one Senate Judiciary Republican who opposed the nominee, Thom Tillis, has signaled he's going to back his confirmation now, which would bring the vote before the full Senate. Bovey is expected to have the votes to win confirmation on the Senate floor. Republicans, as we know, have a 53, 47 majority. Dick Durbin said the committee must hear from the whistleblower behind the accusations again. His name is Erez Reveni, who was fired after a disclosure he made in a related related case telling a judge that Kilmar Abrego was deported in error. Quote, I don't think we should move forward with this vote until we've given the whistleblower an opportunity under oath before the committee to tell us what happened. What we have here, Mr. Bovey was in a position where he was encouraging members of the Department of Justice to mislead the judge in the case. That's just unacceptable, unprofessional conduct that's what Durbin said Tuesday on cnn, referencing the planned Thursday vote. That's today. Judiciary Chair Chuck Grassley, however, said the vote will go forward as planned. Bovey, previously a member of Trump's personal criminal defense team, currently serves in the number three spot in the doj. Should his nomination advance Thursday, he would be launched to a sphere of the judiciary from which the Supreme Court justices are often chosen. This is what this is, Dana. He's trying to, he's fast tracking to the Supreme Court to replace Alito or Thomas.
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Dana Goldberg
Absolutely. That's what's going to happen now.
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Alison Gill
Numerous groups have objected to Bovey's nomination. Over 900 former federal judges have signed signed on to a letter opposing his nomination, calling his dismissal of prosecutors involvement in killing the bribery prosecution of Eric Adams and nods to defying court orders telling the court to fuck you is disqualifying.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah, I would think so.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, I think so, too.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah. Thanks so much, Alison. This is from NBC. Rep. Cory Mills, a Republican in Florida, is facing a lawsuit seeking his eviction over alleged failure to pay thousands of dollars in rent at a property in Washington, D.C. that's according to papers. In a complaint filed in D.C. superior Court last week, Busuto Co. Said the congressman did not pay a total of $85,000 in rent between March and July. Monthly rent for the property, according to court filing, is $20,000 a month. Where are you living in D.C. on your salary? Now? The management company is asking the court to allow it to evict Mills and for an order requiring that he submit future monthly payments with the court until the case is resolved. An initial hearing, by the way, is scheduled for September 8th. The lawsuit was first reported by Roger Sullenberger and the Independent Journalist. A resident ledger accompanying the management company's lawsuit appears to show Mills has repeatedly failed to pay his rent on time and then he was frequently assessed fees and late payments. He moved into the property in June of 2023. Police in February opened an investigation into Mills over report of an alleged assault at an apartment building on the same block as that of the rental dispute. Mills office said he vehemently denied any wrongdoing and a police spokesperson at the time said the congressman was not arrested and no charges had been fil filed. Mills has represented Florida's 7th congressional district since 2023. And let me just say there's no shade here for anyone that is having a hard time paying your rent or has missed rent payments. I think there who among us is not probably there is something sketchy about this one in particular. So that's where I made that comment from.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. I don't think that anybody who's having trouble making the rent is paying $21,000 of rent a month in rent. I don't think that's where we are. And it again shows the wealth gap in this country. And Corey Mills, by the way, Florida's seventh. We've had one of the candidates running to unseat him. One of the Democratic candidates running to unseat him in Florida's seventh on the beans recently, Noah Whitman.
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Dana Goldberg
Amazing.
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Alison Gill
So check that out. So just to chalk this up to the list of reasons why you shouldn't vote for Corey Mills in 2026. Hey, Dana. Some key Senate Republicans are expressing serious reservations. Uh huh. With a package of spending cuts requested by Trump as they barrel toward a final vote as soon as the last night, Wednesday evening as we're recording this, almost like right now. But several of those senators say they'll still vote for the bill. Of course they will. It slashes 9 billion in previously approved funding for foreign aid and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funds NPR and pbs. The Senate began voting on amendments to the rescissions package Wednesday, one day after advancing it in a paper thin vote of 51 to 50, with Vice President J.D. vance breaking the tie. Three Republicans, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski and Mitch McConnell, voted with Democrats against the measure. All three are senior members of the Appropriations Committee and complained, among other things, that the White House has not provided details about how they will implement the cuts. You want details of plans from the White House? No wonder Susan Collins was concerned. She furrowed her brow. Enough to get a no vote in there.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh my God. I saw an interview with Murkowski the other day where I was like, the call's coming from inside the House. What are you talking about? She was like, I hope Congress stands to things that blah, blah, blah, like you're part of the problem.
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Alison Gill
You are part of the problem. That means, by the way, all of the other 50 Republican votes are crucial for final passage. And some of those Republicans are leery about the measure, which is advancing under a rarely used fast track process in which Congress can cancel spending on a simple majority vote.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh boy.
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Alison Gill
So I'm sure they'll all fall in line. The the naysayers like Murkowski and and Collins will get to vote no. JD Vance will break the tie and they will cut the funding to npr, PBS and foreign aid.
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Dana Goldberg
That's exactly what's going to happen. It's sad, very sad. State of affairs. Immigrants and Their legal advocates are suing right now to stop unlawful Trump administration policies that have resulted in the arrest, detention, and fast track deportation of potentially thousands of people who appeared for their scheduled hearings at immigration courts across the country in recent months. They are doing what they're supposed to be doing.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And I love this lawsuit. I'm so glad that they're bringing this lawsuit.
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Dana Goldberg
The class action lawsuit seeks to end ongoing collusion between the Department of Homeland Security, DHS, and the Department of Justice, the DOJ that has intentionally stripped people of basic due process rights afforded under our U.S. constitution under U.S. immigration law and the Fifth Amendment in order to place them in expedited removal proceedings and deport them without hearings, no due process. Although the plaintiffs appeared at their hearings intended to request protection or other legal status in the United States, only to have a government attorney unexpectedly ask the immigration judge to just dismiss the cases. When a judge agreed to the dismissal, often over plaintiffs objections, the plaintiffs were arrested and detained by DHS Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers who were waiting at the courthouse. The lawsuit was filed in the U.S. district Court of the District of Columbia by the National Immigration justice center, the nijc, also Democracy Forward Refugee and Immigration center for Legal Education and Services, and the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights of the San Francisco Bay Area. The lawsuits represents 12 people who have been arrested at court hearings along with organizational plaintiffs. Immigrant Advocates Response Collaborative, and that is Immigrant ARC and American Gateways, which provide legal services to people who now face potential arrest and deportation when they attend a court hearing to commit comply with their immigration proceedings.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And we'll see. We'll see how this, how this goes. Because I've been waiting for this. This is, you know, these are the. The ICE agents hanging outside of the courtrooms, dismissing their cases after years of showing up.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah.
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Alison Gill
Like they're supposed to. And following the rules and taking the legal path. Remember how Republicans are like, we just want it to be done legally. No, that was all a lie. Because they'll just dismiss their cases and then rearrest them for expedited.
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Dana Goldberg
That's exactly it.
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Alison Gill
All right. In an interesting merging of two big stories, and I talked about this at the top of the show. Senator Booker has written to Emil Bovey a day ahead of his judicial confirmation to ask him about his role in covering up the Epstein files. So we're taking the confirmation of Emil Bovey, who told the courts to fuck off, and we're merging it with the Epstein.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, boy.
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Alison Gill
And I think that this is fantastic. This is a great move by Senator Booker. He says I write to request information related to the DOJ's handling of the Epstein matter specifically relating to your Emil Bovey's involvement in the review of investigating holdings relating to the Epstein files and decisions relating to public disclosure of those files. You held a key decision making role at DOJ since the beginning of this administration, first as Acting Deputy Attorney General through March of 2025 and then in your current position as PAIDAG Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General, serving as a close advisor to Pam Bondi. In light of the significant public interest in the Epstein files and the Trump Department of Justice and FBI's shifting positions on transparency and public disclosure records and information relating to your participation in this matter are relevant to the Senate Judiciary Committee's ongoing review of your nomination to the US Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. As Acting Deputy Attorney General, you advised and assisted Pam Bondi in formulating and implementing departmental policies and programs and provided overall supervision and direction to all organizations organizational units of the department and were authorized to exercise all the power and authority of the Attorney General. By all accounts, you have continued to fulfill many of these responsibilities as the principal Associate Deputy Attorney General closely advising Attorney General Pam Bondi and you have served in this role at each step of the review and disclosure of the Epstein files. So he sent a bunch of questions. He's demanding answers. It's fantastic. I think this is they're not going to get any answers right now, but now before his confirmation, they can. You know, we are now able to say that Emil Bovey was also part of this.
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Dana Goldberg
Good.
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Alison Gill
So I think that's the whole point there. All right, everybody, it's time for some good trouble.
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Dana Goldberg
What are you guys doing?
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Alison Gill
All right, you're good trouble today, should you choose to accept it from 50501 and our good friends Cliff Cash and Jessica Denson this Thursday, Today, this morning, 10:00am Eastern. Good trouble lives on with Flair USA and Cliff Cash calling for all those in D.C. to show up at Flair USA in front of Union Station, to go to every single office in the House and Senate and then later marching to the White House. We're asking to share the details of this to all of your Washington, D.C. groups because the more we share, the more people will show up and we need to keep applying pressure. Again, that is this morning, 10am Washington D.C. at Flair USA in front of Union Station with Cliff Cash and Jessica Denson. 50501 that is your good trouble should you choose to accept it. And please stick around. We'll be right back with Adam Klassfeld from All Rise News after these messages.
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Adam Klassfeld
We'll be right back.
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Alison Gill
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Adam Klassfeld
Well, one of the biggest takeaways I had about this hearing, Alison, was the first time, one of the first times we've seen his all star legal team in action. And one of his top lawyers is, of course, Sean Hecker, one of the parts of the legal team that won an $88 million verdict for E. Jean Carroll for sexual abuse and defamation against that the verdict against Donald Trump. And today, Shawn Hecker on cross examination just delivered a devastating cross examination against the lead investigator in the government's case who's a Homeland Security Investigations agent by the name of Peter Joseph. And we've spoken on this show a number of times about the fact that the case against Mr. Abrego hinges largely on two cooperating witnesses, one named Jose Hernandez Reyes and his close relative. Now, today we found out that Mr. Reyes first, before being interviewed by Ms. By Agent Joseph, was interviewed by three other Homeland Security Investigations agents. And in those other interviews that happened that today we found out that, that he didn't consult the notes, that when taking the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, he didn't have any interest whether the lead cooperating witness, the man who was giving him the goods, was telling a different story to his peers. He said he wanted to go in fresh. And then right after the interview, he didn't review the notes either. There was no moment to check. Hey, is what this lead witness is telling me consistent with what he told my colleagues at Homeland Security Investigations? And it gets worse. Right after that, Mr. Hernandez Reyes, as we've spoken about was convicted of felonies twice, was deported five times from the country. Sean Hecker asked him if he was aware of Mr. Hernandez Reyes. Record said he was only aware of two of the deportations. So he's not a man for research, Agent. Agent Joseph here is being revealed on cross examination that he's not doing the research. He's not checking to see if the lead witness in front of him, what he's telling his colleagues, what his background is. He doesn't know that he's been deported five times, doesn't know the nature of any cooperating agreements, just what the government is giving him. There was a moment in today's hearing where they dissected his testimony from the last hearing that, well, Hernandez Reyes was at the end of a 30 month sentence, so they sent him to a halfway house. It wasn't a big deal. Today, under cross examination, Agent Joseph acknowledged, no, it's atypical for a man who has been deported five times, convicted twice of felonies, to be just sent to a halfway house toward the end of his sentence. That's now not how the government would usually handle a situation like that. Unless they're giving a sweetheart deal to testify against Kilmar Abrego Garcia in some substance.
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Alison Gill
That's the thing, right? Because two things hit me upside the head when Joseph, the HSI guy, said that he didn't review the notes before, he didn't review the notes after, and he didn't know the nature of any of the deals offered to the main cooperating witness in those meetings or anything that happened in those meetings that granted him the ability to get asylum and a work permit and get out of prison. And what occurred to me, the first thing that kind of shocked me was it sounded to me like almost like creating plausible deniability, like Joseph doesn't want to know if there's anything inconsistent or bad about this guy that makes him a not, not a credible witness. It sounded like when he was like, well, I wanted to go in fresh. I think what he meant to say is I want to keep this clean so that I don't know how terribly inconsistent and awful and impeachable this witness is. It's. It's almost like a protection of himself to be able to say, oh, yeah, I can say with certainty that this is a consistent story because I haven't heard any of the other stories. And that's why. What kind of freaked me out about this, that and, you know, just some of the. Some of the almost high schoolish details that he tried to get in onto the record about things that Envy, who is another witness you can talk about said and you know, just all these other little like things about sharing nude photos with a minor and, and having children in the car. Just trying to paint him as a bad guy in general so that they can reach the burden to get a, a bail hearing and then hopefully in the bail hearing keep him in prison.
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Adam Klassfeld
Right. Well, the magistrate, Judge Barbara Holmes found the allegations of kind of sexual misconduct unreliable. And I should be clear, Mr. Abrego isn't charged with any of those offenses. He has is a two count indictment both related to allegedly smuggling immigrants across state lines. But during her press conference, AG Pam Bondi goes out, makes these allegations involving sexual misconduct toward minors. That comes largely from the testimony of Envy, who says that when she was 15 years old there was a Snapchat that Mr. Abrego had solicited nude photos from her. And the government says that this is backed up by an IP address that is traced to a property where Abrego may have lived at some point.
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Dana Goldberg
Point.
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Adam Klassfeld
That's the corroboration. Well, today Shawn Hecker again in a devastating cross examination says what he points to a part of that the forensic evidence about the Snapchat, that there's a date associated with a birth date. It's not his client, it's not Abrego's birthday. But here's the part that is rather stunning. He asks agent Joseph that Mr. Abrigo's birthday is in July. Right. And the agent says that he doesn't know. Now he's the lead case agent investigating Kilmar Abrego Garcia, and doesn't know, doesn't say that he checked whether there's any consistency between this Snapchat information. He doesn't say. Well, there's an alternative explanation. The government believes that he put in a false birthday for some reason. He just simply didn't know the birthday of the man that he's investigating.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, and. And that doesn't stand up. That doesn't pass the smell test to me. Because if you're trying to verify that somebody with. What was the screen name again?
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Adam Klassfeld
Soytuga.
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Alison Gill
Soytuga on the Snapchat years ago. Five years ago. Right. Was trying to solicit nude photos to a minor. If you're trying to prove that that's Abrego Garcia, that that is Mr. Abrego, one of the things you would corroborate would be his birthday. It would seem like you would know when the birthday of the subject is, if you were trying to corroborate that and match that. So to say that you didn't know, I don't know. That just sounds awfully strange to me.
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Adam Klassfeld
And. And it also reveals why they didn't charge him with soliciting sexual images of a minor, that he is not charged with that offense. And now we know a little bit why, because it hangs on this statement that is totally inconsistent with the. With the forensic evidence.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And we have to remember that that's not what this hearing is about. Obviously, this isn't about getting charges for soliciting a minor. This hearing is about whether or not. Not he can get. Whether the government can get a detention hearing, because they. They don't have that yet. These are all hearings to determine whether they can get a detention hearing or not. And in order to do that, you have to show that somebody is a danger to the community or a flight risk. So that's what all of this is about. There was some triple hearsay about NV also saying she was at a dinner where she heard Mr. Abrego say that he had murdered the mother of a rival gang in another country. And they're trying to use that triple hearsay because this particular agent, this HSI agent, Joseph, was not there for that interview of this NV woman and said he didn't even understand the notes that came out of those FBI hearings with this woman. And so they're trying to use all of this information, which Magistrate Judge Barbara Jones, like you said, already didn't buy it, said it wasn't credible. It's double hearsay. It's triple hearsay. I don't want to hear it. And so they're just bringing this up again in this hearing. I just kind of want to remind everybody, just so they can try to show that beyond a preponderance of the evidence, that Mr. Abrego is a danger to society, and therefore, we should get a hearing to determine whether or not he can be released.
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Adam Klassfeld
Right. And what we. Where we may be going here. The judge did not issue his ruling at the end of the hearing. He said he likely will not issue his ruling before the end of the week. So Mr. Abrego is still in limbo here. We haven't heard yet, as of this taping from a federal judge in Maryland, whether if Mr. Abrego is released, if she will issue an order protecting him from deportation by the government before he could defend himself against these allegations at a trial. I want to just mention something, looking at everything that came out We've had two evidentiary hearings on bail, which, again, as you noted to listeners, Alison, this is about whether he's a danger to community or a risk of flight. And so they have this relaxed standard where they're getting in all of this evidence to dirty him up that would not normally go into a trial because it doesn't relate to the charges at trial. But even if you take the government's best evidence against him, here's what they say, that he got mixed up with a man named Jose Hernandez Reyes, that the car during this 2022 traffic stop was registered to Mr. Hernandez Reyes's name. And today they introduced some new evidence that on Mr. Hernandez Reyes's phone, there was a name Kitmark, potentially misspelled, and chauffeur, that driver in Spanish. Chauffeur. And that in the government's best light of what they've brought to the table, that they have shown that Kilmar Abrego Garcia has some relationship to Mr. Hernandez Reyes, who is a convicted smuggler, that this car had several immigrants in it.
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Alison Gill
It.
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Adam Klassfeld
And that there is something linking these two men, that at this stop, he calls this witness. Now, I want to put this into perspective. The reason that I mention this is this man who they say he's in bed with a bad man, that's their main witness. That is the man who is allegedly at the top of this smuggling operation, who's been convicted of these, of these very serious offenses a number of times and that has been deported from the country five times, and whom the Trump administration has entered into a deal to keep in the country for that sixth time to go after Kilmar Abrego Garcia. And so even in the light most favorable to the Trump administration here, that if Mr. Abrego is guilty of the crimes charged, they are using the man at the top of the chain to go after the man who in the government's own admission, would, in the worst case scenario, be at the bottom of that chain.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And I know Andy McCabe and I have talked about how that is just the complete opposite way that they normally flip witnesses to get other witnesses. You flip up, you go for the bigger fish. You get the smaller fish to go after the bigger fish. So. And you give the deals to the, to the smaller, the people lower on the, on the food chain in those, in those conspiracies. So, yeah, truly weird. And, you know, you and I talked offline, and I agree with you. I think what's going to happen here is that you might hear Judge Crenshaw grants the government a bail hearing on Abrego. I think that that might actually be the correct call in this case to overturn what the magistrate, Judge Barbara Jones, has done to give the government a bail hearing. But I think that he will also say, and he gets bail, that we've had the hearing. You get you. You get your bail hearing and you lose on it.
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Dana Goldberg
And.
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Alison Gill
Right. I think that might be what happens here.
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Adam Klassfeld
Yes. Well, the whole reason we're having this hearing is that the judge thought that there was binding appellate court precedent in the Watkins case, that if there's any evidence and it's a low threshold, that the case involves a minor victim, then the government is entitled to a detention hearing. But under the Bail Reform act, that the defendant must be released on bail if there's any combination of conditions to guarantee his presence at trial and to protect the community. We have to remember that Judge Holmes, a magistrate judge who found that the government did not meet its burden, imposed some pretty strict conditions. He's going to be under home detention, going to be living with his brother. He's going to be under location monitoring, and he hasn't had any offenses before, unlike the government's main witnesses. And so the idea that there's no combination, and he's also one of the most well known people in the news cycle.
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Alison Gill
He's got, e. G. Carroll's lawyers representing him like it's. He. Like everybody knows where he is.
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Adam Klassfeld
Exactly. So I think that it's very possible, and I think the judge kind of revealed today in court where he was leaning on this, that he might find a very low threshold established by the federal court precedent. The government is entitled to a bail, a detention hearing, but he might ultimately come out on the side of his magistrate who found that, that the evidence the government put forward, that he was some sort of danger to the community, that he's a risk of flight, that it's based on hearsay, based on unreliable testimony, and in one case, she said defies common sense. I think that he might ultimately find in favor of his magistrate, even if he finds it through a different path.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And this isn't happening in a vacuum because if this judge does find that, that the government gets a bail hearing and then subsequently finds that Mr. Abrego can be released on bail with certain conditions, then we have the Maryland case and we have ICE waiting to detain him. And we have his other lawyers in his civil case wanting Judge Sinis to guarantee that if ICE does detain him, that they have to give 48, 72 hours notice before they deport him to a third country. Because both Judge Sinis, Anna Brago's lawyers, and the rest of us here on Earth one know that you can't trust the government when they say, oh, we won't send him to a third country just yet. You don't need to put in an order. You can take our word for it that we'll give him proper notice. Because Judge Sinis was like, you've never done that so far. So. But she's working on it. She's trying to figure out if she has jurisdiction because he's still in criminal custody and whether or not she can reach in and have any kind of jurisdiction over immigration courts. I mean, it's a very complex case. And so we're still waiting for. For what she's going to rule on what happens if Mr. Abrego is released from criminal custody.
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Adam Klassfeld
Absolutely. And we were expecting a ruling before today's hearing because she was going to.
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Alison Gill
Bring one and she didn't.
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Adam Klassfeld
Yeah, absolutely. Because the clock is ticking.
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Dana Goldberg
It.
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Adam Klassfeld
Look, it just so happened at the end of today's hearing, we didn't have a ruling, Judge Crenshaw, on Mr. Abrego's release. And it's very possible that as soon as Judge Zinis issues her ruling, it can go up on appeal. And who knows when, if she releases it before. With enough time before that ruling, there could be a big appellate battle over what happens over whether the government will try to deport the man they charged with these two crimes before trial. They claim that he committed these offenses, but they're also saying that it's not urgent enough, apparently, for them to hold off on the immigration, to take a breather, wait for trial, see its conclusion, and do it in an orderly fashion. So we wait and see.
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Alison Gill
And they're just kind of pretending that they can't pick up the phone and talk to each other. Well, I don't even know. We don't know what we're going to do. We have no idea what ICE is going to do, DOJ says. And ICE is like, we're not going to tell you. And DOJ is like, see? We don't even know. It's like, you guys are the same. Anyway, it's.
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Adam Klassfeld
And to emphasize that point, Allison, the lead investigator on the case is Homeland Security's investigations agents Peter Joseph. He's a guy from Homeland Security Investigations. This is a case that was brought by a joint task force, Vulcan, which includes Homeland Security. But the DOJ says they have no control over what Homeland Security does when it comes to Kilmar Abrego, Garcia.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, it is. It's truly. It's truly fascinating. We'll look forward to what Judge Sinise has to say. We'll look forward to what this judge has to say. And, you know, I guess my last question. Question is it probably wouldn't be unheard of for Judge C's to pick up the phone and call Judge Crenshaw and say, hey, are you gonna. Are you gonna have a ruling today or do I have more time to come up with my ruling? And, you know, and, and, and maybe he's like, I mean, he's obviously not going to tell her how he's going to rule because he didn't have the hearing, but he can say, I'm probably not going to rule from the bench today. But who knows if they even are communicating in any way to try to figure out how they're going to go forward or at least when certain things are going to come down on the docket.
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Adam Klassfeld
Right. Well, Crenshaw did say on the public record today that the ruling isn't coming this week. I'm sure that some dutiful clerk in Judge Zenis's office is aware that there are research. We know that Judge Zinis mentioned the context in which this falls, that there is. Right now the need for the ruling is that the defendant might be whisked away out of the country where that happened before without any notice or process. And she's interested to make sure that due process is provided, that the law is followed. So I'm sure that whether or not there's any communication, there's now a public record of when the judge is going to rule. I would be very surprised.
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Alison Gill
She knows now.
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Adam Klassfeld
She would know.
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Alison Gill
Judge Sinise knows now. Yeah, because we all know.
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Adam Klassfeld
Absolutely.
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Alison Gill
All right, well, hey, I appreciate your time. I know you're out on the street. I know you're running around in Tennessee on the ground. And that, you know, that kind of brings me to this point. Everybody, if you are able to support what Adam Klassfeld is doing, you can head to All Rise News at Substack and become a subscriber there. Because this. This kind of play by play in court, we're not getting it from corporate media much, much like all sorts of things right now in this time, in this regime, we have to do these things ourselves. So, again, subscribe to All Rise News and, you know, get. Just send a friendly note to our good friend Adam Klassfeld. All the work that he's doing and we appreciate your time today.
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Adam Klassfeld
Thank you very much, Alison. I really appreciate that.
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Alison Gill
All right. Thank you. All right, everybody, stick around. We'll be right back with the good news. Hey, everybody, welcome back. It's time for the good news.
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Adam Klassfeld
Likes good news, everyone. Then good news, everyone.
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Alison Gill
And if you have any good news confessions, corrections, you want to send in some good trouble. You want to give a shout out to a loved one, Maybe a small business in your area, a self shout out, maybe your small business. We'd love to know what you're making and creating. I know we have tons of makers and creators and entrepreneurs that listen to the daily beans. Just an incredible group we have at this community. Also, if you have a shout out for a government program that's done some wonderful things for you or a loved one, we would love to hear about that, too. We really need to hold up these government programs. I know that right now this administration is trying to dismantle all of them. And I want to get these stories on the record. So send it in to us. And then, you know, any tiny little bit of good news that's happened to you, maybe you returned the grocery cart to the grocery cart corral. I know my. Our friend Charlotte Clymer just wrote a whole big piece on this. Maybe you did that and you feel good. Tell us about it. Maybe you saw somebody else.
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Dana Goldberg
Sometimes it's little things, right?
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Alison Gill
We have to microdose the hope right now. So send it to us@dailybeanspod.com, click on Contact to get your stuff read on the air. You just have to pay your pod pet tariff, which means really just attach any photo that you find on the Internet or you're really.
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Dana Goldberg
We don't, we're not picky with that. Absolutely not picky with that.
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Alison Gill
But we would love to see your pod pets. If you don't have pets, an adoptable pet in your area, we can try to find him a home. If you don't have that, really just capybaras, secretary birds, pandas, the red variety or the black and white variety, frogs, otters, holding hands, floating baby animals, anything like that. And then of course, if you have a picture of your happy place or you and your family and friends flipping the bird to Trump and Musk Properties. We love those pictures. Great signs you've seen at a rally. Have you been to a rally or protest recently? You want to share that? Maybe send us your no Kings or hands off photos. Or maybe you went to the Women's March 2017. We would love to see those Too. Anything at all that you can send to us. Family photos, baby pictures, dailybeanspod.com click on Contact. All right, first up from Beck. Pronouns she and her, dear AG and dg. You are my political news. Go to and historian Heather Cox Richardson. I don't blame you since she's amaz. I love Heather Cox.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh yeah, beyond.
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Alison Gill
Since you deal in news, not clickbait or opinion masquerading as news. Oh, thank you, Beck. Thank you for wading through all the shit so I don't have to in order to be informed. At any rate, no Kings rallies took place on International Knit in Public day. So along with signs and the spouse, I took needles and yarn along, finding many willing to hold my sign while I knit. Oh, that's cool. For many years I've demonstrated, advocated, carried signs and actively pushed for the rights and welfare of people. People who are and aren't like me. All while knitting. My first resisting arrest, jailing and charges came while trying to rescue a knitting project from a cop who was stripping it off the needles as they knocked my middle aged self to the ground and knelt on me. What the fuck, right? I mumbled that clearly they didn't interact with many knitters. Ah, memories. Since fall of 2024, I've been knitting emotional support chickens to gift to family and friends as well as the occasional stranger.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh my God.
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Alison Gill
An emotional support chicken. There's a whole lot of awful. We have no control over here. But there's also a whole lot of good. I took your microdosing hope concept and ran with it. Every day I resist despair by each life affirming and joy filled act. I completely changed my days thanks to that mantra. Every day I'm choosing to add the sum total of good along with other things, one chicken at a time. I need a chicken for bodbed. Terrible. The June and July flock of chickens ready to go to their forever homes. A close up of a pride chicken knit during Pride month. Naturally. Viva la resistance. Look at the chickens.
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Dana Goldberg
Those are so cool.
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Alison Gill
How do I get a resistance chicken? Seriously, I need one, Beck. I need one. Oh my gosh. These are amazing. Thank you so much for this. This makes me so, so happy.
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Dana Goldberg
This is fantastic. Thank you. This one's from Tiffany. Pronoun she they. Good news Beans team. I saved a street dog. Dog. I've never done that before and I'm right chuffed about it. Such a glimmer of joy to experience. This morning this little dog was on the street all night. But now she's ready to be your Bestie. I earned her trust pretty quickly this morning and now she can be yours. She's about £30, cuddly, crate trained, friendly to dogs, cats and even men. She's at the South LA Animal Shelter. After spending the day with me and my pets, I wish I could keep her, but that's not the responsible choice. She deserves the loving household of the legume league that they can provide. So go, go, go get this girl. Pod possible pet tariff snaps of this cutie to inspire your rescue instincts. This dog is so cute. Oh, my God. The last photo. If I could take this dog, I would. Look at this.
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Alison Gill
I am in love with this doggo. Me too. This can be your bestie now. £30. That's a great size. Oh my gosh. This is incredible. I love it. I love this so much. All right, so South LA Animal Shelter. Wonderful. Thank you so much for sending that in this adoptable pod pet. Let us know what happens. All right, next up from Lara Pronoun. She and her. Hello, my friends. I want to give a shout out to my wonderful, amazing husband, a partner who has worked so hard and taken care of me and our beautiful family for 35 plus years. Today is his 60th birthday and he is beginning a bucket list adventure. He's off on a solo motorcycle trip and then I will meet up with him and we will adventure together. All beans listeners, keep an eye out for a wonderful man on a Harley 2 wheels down. This is easy rider PK on his big adventure. And that's me. Bean sprouts out, sending him off.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, my God. This is so cute.
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Alison Gill
Peace. Oh, my God. That's a hell of a Harley Davidson.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah, it is. Have fun. Be safe.
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Alison Gill
Solo Harley. Then you're gonna join him later. Happy birthday, Lara's hubby.
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Dana Goldberg
Yes, 60 years.
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Alison Gill
Wonderful.
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Dana Goldberg
All right, this is from Anonymous. No pronouns given. Hey, AG and dg. I just wanted to share what made my heart happy recently. I have a first kiddo going off to college in a month. Eek. And we recently attended orientation at his soon to be campus at Virginia Commonwealth University VCU in Richmond, Virginia. The diversity, it was everywhere. It was glorious. The entire campus had a vibe that was not one thing, but all things. Maybe that's me having a wishful honeymoon phase, but as a really white woman, I sat in the family presentations thinking, this is clearly not a lily white school. And I am so, so glad. Representation everywhere. And it's also a big art school. The representation is not just racial, it's gender and sexuality too. Anyway, it made my heart so happy there's still good places. May we fiercely protect them. Well said for my pod pet tariff. It amuses me how seamlessly. This is officially switched from tax to tariff. Yep, I'm sending the single best picture I've ever taken a hummingbird I saw at La Jolla Cove on a family trip to California many years ago. I have this blown up and huge hanging on the bedroom wall. Thanks for all that you both do. This podcast is an oasis where I can get what I know I need the news and what I didn't know I needed. Good trouble and good news. You guys are the best. This is a beautiful hummingbird photo.
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Alison Gill
Absolutely beautiful. I love that you blew it up and it's all big and hanging in your house now. La Jolla Cove is gorgeous by the way. When you can catch it with the sun out, there's usually a pretty heavy marine layer, but that is wonderful. Thank you so much for that good news and that beaut. Next up from Jordan Pronouns he and him Good morning Beans Queens I've written before about our company's participation in LA Pride this year. While the experience was terrific, especially traveling there from the Bible Belt, I'm proud to be part of the leadership team that is guiding our company into future into the future on the right side of history. I will include a group photo of all of us in the pictures. And by the way, the Bible Belt Jordan is talking about is Tennessee. The Tennessee 7th congressional district is holding a special election this year after the resignation of Mark Green and his final vote on the Big Bullshit Bill. Remember Dana? He's the guy who was like, I have great business opportunities just leaving Congress after he voted for the billionaire bailout bill. I'm working, jordan says. I am working with the local Democratic Party to help organize phone banks and door knocking to support a Democrat in this seat and deliver a decisive defeat to the current regime in power. So if you're in Tennessee's 7th congressional district, please take the time to look up your polling places, primary dates, and the general election date. This state has been heavily gerrymandered and it'll take every single one of us to say this is not what we want in America. Rooting for Afton Ben for my POD Pet tariff. I'm including our Min pin, who's on his way to the vet yesterday for his final round of puppy shots. Oh my God, Dana. Dana, It's a baby Min pin.
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Dana Goldberg
It's so cute.
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Alison Gill
And that little blue harness is adorable. The ears look like velvet. What?
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Dana Goldberg
Is that velvet photo too?
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Alison Gill
Yes, oh my gosh, look at that photo. That's a lot of love right there.
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Dana Goldberg
Sure is, Jordan.
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Alison Gill
Thank you. And thanks to everybody for this amazing good news segment. Really needed it today and we're gonna need it again tomorrow and the next day and the next day and the.
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Dana Goldberg
Day after that and the day after that. Oh, yeah.
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Alison Gill
Keep sending us your good news. Dailybeanspod.com click on Contact. I am so excited. Tell everybody your website again because tonight or tomorrow you're going to be able to get tickets and they're going to go fast as a diversionary theater in San Diego for your comedy show.
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Dana Goldberg
Yes, it's danagoldberg.com. nice and easy. Go get them. And if you go on my website tonight, you're like, the show's not on there yet. Just be patient. It's going to be on there tomorrow or tonight. I'm just waiting for the ticket link. And like I said, it's only 100 seats. It's going to be a really intimate show. So chances are 100% you'll get to meet me possibly during the show.
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Alison Gill
Possibly everyone will do crowd work with you.
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Dana Goldberg
Probably. Yeah. So come out. It's gonna be a really enjoyable night. It's the night before the human rights campaign gala in San Diego, so I'm gonna bring some comedy before we raise some money the day after and I just hope to meet some of my beans. I'm literally just announcing it here first because I want as many of you in the theater as possible and then I'm gonna announce it to the general public. So I mean it. No one else has heard about this show yet. Yet. This is it.
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Alison Gill
Oh yeah. We're gonna pack it with luminati. That's gonna be amazeballs. Thank you so much.
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Dana Goldberg
Yes, a 7pm show. And if it sells out quickly, we'll add a nine. But right now we're doing seven. A reasonable time for all of us over 40.
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Alison Gill
Yes. Please hold me a ticket for the 7:00pm show. Thank you. Cuz Nana goes to bed at nine.
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Dana Goldberg
Yep.
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Alison Gill
Okay, that's. I take my CB distillery, the stick and sleep gummy and get my helix mattress and fall the to bed like at 9:30. That's my plan. All right, everybody, we're going to be back in your ears tomorrow. Thank you so much for listening. And until then, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health and take care of your family. I've been ag, I've been DG and them's the Beans. The Daily Beans is written and executive produced by Allison Gill with additional research and reporting by Dana Goldberg. Sound design and editing is by Desiree McFarlane with art and web design by Joel Reeder with Moxie Design Studios. Music for the Daily Beans is written and performed by they Might be John Science and the show is a proud member of the MSW Media Network, a collection of creator owned podcasts dedicated to news, politics and justice. For more information please visit mswmedia. Com MSW Media.