
Tuesday, March 18th, 2025 Today, Judge Boasberg holds another emergency hearing over whether Trump defied his order to turn the deportation planes around; a Brown University professor has been deported despite a court order; a Navy veteran and his wife say that TRICARE rescinded a $100K healthcare claim paid over a year ago; what musicians did after an executive order on DEI led to the cancellation of U.S. Marine Band collaboration; the 9th Circuit has denied Trump’s motion to pause a federal court order requiring the rehiring of probationary civil servants who were terminated; and Allison and Dana deliver your Good News.
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Allison Gill
MSW Media. Hello, and welcome to the Daily beans for Tuesday, March 18, 2025. Today, Judge Boasberg has held another emergency hearing over whether the Trump administration has defied his order to turn the deportation planes around. A Brown University professor has been deported despite a court order. A Navy veteran and his wife say that Tricare has rescinded a $100,000 health care claim bill paid over a year ago. What musicians did after an executive order on diversity, equity and inclusion led to the cancellation of a U.S. marine band collaboration. And the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has denied Trump's motion to PA laws a federal court order requiring him to rehire probationary civil servants who were terminated. I'm Allison Gill.
Dana Goldberg
And I'm Dana Goldberg.
Allison Gill
Oh, hey, Dana.
Dana Goldberg
What even was that? I don't know.
Allison Gill
It's just another man.
Dana Goldberg
Hi, guys. It's Allison and Dana. Even though it's Tuesday, I know I feel exhausted. This has already been a really long.
Allison Gill
Week because that's my booze day. I'm gonna totally have a revolver tonight.
Dana Goldberg
Tuesday.
Allison Gill
Man. Schumer canceled his book tour.
Dana Goldberg
No. Shocking, really. He doesn't want to face constituents who are going to show up at his book tours.
Allison Gill
He's like, security threats. You just don't want everybody booing you for doing what you did last Friday.
Dana Goldberg
Yeah. And I know we're being hard on Schumer. I know he's done some good things, but he's done some kind of. Kind of sketchy things lately. And we just really need leadership with a backbone these days. And our interpretation, at least my interpretation. Don't want to speak for my co host. Is that we don't have that in some of our senior leadership. And I'm not sure why they're not pushing back. Like, the country is literally under attack from the inside out. I just don't get it.
Allison Gill
Yeah. If you're going to stop a dictator, you got to do it soon. It's like that, you know, first 48 hours show. You know, you got to find that kid in the first 48. Otherwise, the chances of you not finding them go up exponentially. We got to do this fast. And, yeah, this kind of, you know, the. The interview that Chuck Schumer did with the New York Times, eventually he got to the meat of the point, which was he thinks that we can still work across the aisle with Republicans, and. And that's just. We can't keep, you know, I don't know, practicing 2012 politics in 2025. It used to work. It just doesn't work. Anymore.
Dana Goldberg
Yeah.
Allison Gill
Yeah. And I talked done about that on the next episode of clean up on all 45, which comes out tomorrow. We talked a little bit about. It's not so much whether you think a government shutdown is better or worse than signing the continuing resolution. It's about Schumer, like, leaving his colleagues in the House, the House Democrats who stuck their necks out for this, leaving them hanging out to dry. And that's just bad form. But we also got to speak to Ari Berman about his piece on the Wisconsin Supreme Court election in person. Early voting starts today, folks. So go get everybody and tell them. You can hear that interview again on tomorrow's cleanup on aisle 45 podcast. And judge Boasberg held another emergency hearing today because the Department of Justice didn't turn the planes around like they were supposed to when they were deporting a couple hundred to 300 Venezuelans. People deporting them to El Salvador, where we've got this really great deal that Marco Rubio and Trump hooked up with the President Bukele down there to give them millions of dollars to help them build their supermax detention cent. And so the hearing today, the DOJ refused to say whether the planes were in the air or why they refused to turn them around. It's all national security secrets. We can't say anything. And so the judge said, all right, well, you have to, you have to say these things to me. I'm a judge and I have equitable jurisdiction over this. Not or, you know, I, I am a co. Equal branch of government. I can order the planes to turn around. So you have to tell me by noon tomorrow, which is noon today Eastern time. So by the time you hear this, we may have already gotten a response from the Department of Justice, but he is considering whether or not to hold the Trump administration in contempt for blatant defiance of a court order. And as the ACLU lawyer put it in today's hearing, we're, we're this close, you know, and I'm making a tiny little motion with my hands here to a constitutional crisis.
Dana Goldberg
Absolutely. Absolutely, we are. And I'm not, I'm not sure we haven't gone over that point. But.
Allison Gill
Yeah, I know.
Dana Goldberg
I'm hoping the case is that we have not. We still have some room left to play.
Allison Gill
Yeah. And there is a thing that we can do that the courts can do to circumvent the marshal Service. You know, the U.S. marshals work for Pam Bondi, and they're the ones who arrest people for civil contempt. But the court actually has the authority to appoint and deputize someone else to do that. If you have a rogue U.S. marshal Service, we've never had that before. We've never had to do that. So it's novel. It's a novel concept legally. But it's in the law. It's in the rules that they do have that power. The courts have that power. We'll see what ends up happening. All right, everybody, we have a lot of news to get to. Let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes. All right, first up from Courthouse News, which is a really excellent resource if you are looking for news organizations to follow the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals rejected a request from the Trump administration on Monday for an immediate stay on a federal judge's ruling last week that reinstated thousands of probationary federal employees who'd been fired. In a 12 page ruling, two of the three judges on the panel agreed that pausing last week's order from Senior U.S. district Judge William Alip would disrupt rather than preserve the status quo. The order was unsigned, but the panel included Senior U.S. circuit Judge Barry Silverman, a Bill Clinton appointee, and U.S. circuit Judges Anna De Alba, a Joe Biden appointee, and Bridget Bade, a Donald Trump appointee. Quote, Given that the district court found that the employees were wrongfully terminated and ordered an immediate return to the status quo ante, an administrative stay of the district court's order would not preserve the status quo. It would do just the opposite. It would disrupt the status quo and turn it on its head. And that's what you have to consider when you're thinking about if you're an appellate court, whether or not to overturn a restraining order or vacate preliminary injunction. Baid dissented again. Baid is the Trump appointee, and Baid wrote that Alsop's ruling should be stayed because it would have maintained the status quo since the employees were already terminated. She wrote that blocking the order would keep the status quo while the appellate court takes more time to determine if a stay is necessary. Quote, that order requires the six agencies to offer reinstatement to thousands of terminated employees who may accept and require onboarding, credentialing and other human resource or administrative action. The agencies must also submit a list of all probationary employees who were terminated on February 13th and 14th, along with an explanation of what has been done to comply with the court's order by Thursday, March 20th. That's what Baid wrote in his order from the bench last week. Also blocked the Trump administration from firing thousands of federal employees and ordered the immediate reinstatement of probationary workers who were fired from the Department of Veterans affairs, the Pentagon and many other government agencies at the behest of the Office of Personnel Management. The order was effective immediately. At a hearing last Thursday, a visibly frustrated Judge Alsup said that he believes that the government is obfuscating the truth because it has refused to make Charles Ezell, the acting director of opm, available to testify about his role in ordering the firings of thousands of federal employees. Alsop had previously ruled that the OPM had no authority to tell any agency who it could hire and fire. The plaintiffs in this case claim Azell ordered the firings of thousands of federal probationary workers using a template letter that falsely stated that the terminations were for performance reasons. The plaintiffs claimed that probationary status also applied to federal workers who had just received promotions, not just new hires. Alup said Congress has the authority to use the Reduction in Force act to reduce the size of federal agencies, but that the Trump administration in this case is trying to circumvent Congress to cut employees at federal agencies. Calling it attempt is a sham. Neither lawyers representing the plaintiffs nor the Justice Department responded to requests for comment. And the plaintiffs now have until March 18th to respond to the government's emergency motion with a potential government reply due on March 20th. So this is a huge win for probationary employees from the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Dana Goldberg
That's fantastic. Thank you, Alison. This one's from Melissa Chan at NBC. A Navy veteran and his wife said they were blindsided when TRICARE, and that's the military's health care program, rescinded over $100,000 in medical claims that it had approved and paid for several years ago. Harv Smith, he's 71, received a $470 bill in January for dermatologist visits in 2020. Now he thought it was a one off error until he discovered that Tricare had retroactively denied 26 more claims for a total of about $3,000 worth of services it had already reimbursed providers for since 2019 when he first enrolled in Tricare for Life, a plan for Tricare eligible people who have Medicare. Tricare also reversed approvals for at least 10 claims totaling about $100,400 for his wife Janice, in the same timeframe, while nine other claims that had once been marked as completed are being reprocessed. That's according to records from her Tricare portal. All this is from NBC News. Quote, we don't know where this ends. That's what Janice smith said she's 67, who has had multiple sclerosis and worries the stress will aggravate the autoimmune disorder. The couple, who live in Fallon, Nevada, said that they would have to use their retirement funds or remortgage their home, which they fully own, to clear the debt. Anxiety has kept Harv Smith, who served in the Navy for 15 years until 1994, from sleeping through the night. Quote, it just kept waking me up. That's what Harv said. He's a former lieutenant commander. He said, did I do something wrong? I know now. It's unclear what prompted the reversals, which appear to be legal under federal law. According to two healthcare attorneys in Nevada, recoupment timeframes are usually set by contracts between private health insurers and providers. Las Vegas based attorney Aisha Mehdi that's what she said. The contracts often allow insurers to recoup payments within a year or two and sometimes four years. But because federal law is stronger than state law, Mehdi said this tricare, which is a federal program, is allowed to rescind payments under its regulations, which permit recovery for up to 10 years in cases of overpayment or mistakes. The Defense Health Agency, which oversees tricare, did not say whether it had overpaid or made an error or whether the couple's case was unique. Spokesperson Brenda Campbell said that it cannot comment publicly on individual health cases, but that it would work with the Smiths to investigate further now. HealthNet Federal Services, the former contractor for TRICARE west region, also said it cannot comment on specific cases, citing health privacy laws. And it said, quote, it's actively looking into the matter. TriWest Healthcare alliance, which took over the contract last year, deferred comment to Health Net, which is said to be responsible for processing paying claims before January 1st. TriWest said it has not recouped or tried to recoup any payments from the Smiths and is not allowed to take such actions under its contract with the Defense Health Agency. Millions of service members, retirees, their families and network providers nationwide have felt cascading disruptions following TRICARE's contract changes this year. About 16,000 health care providers on the east coast alone have not been paid this year. That's from officials forcing many to drop tricare patients, completely, reduce their hours or consider closing their clinics. On the west coast, federal officials said beneficiaries are struggling with a host of issues, including long wait times at call center, stalled referrals on authorizations. On January 1st, Tri west began managing TRICARE benefits on the West coast and in six eastern states that were reallocated to the west region. The Defense Health Agency said the new contract would, quote, improve healthcare delivery quality and access for US Beneficiaries. But it has acknowledged that several challenges have cropped up nationwide since then. Sure sounds like it. The Smith said it took weeks of calling tricare before anyone picked up the phone. During one attempt, they said they waited on hold for over two hours. He said, I was exhausted. I just started crying. That was the wife, Janice Smith. I just, this is just awful. A lot of these people are at an age where this is so confusing and they don't have anyone helping them with this kind of stuff. And even if it wasn't that age, this would confuse the shit out of me. Like, what channels do you go to? How do you fight this? And do you have to hire a lawyer, which costs money?
Allison Gill
Yeah. I can't tell you. I'm like seething, writhing around in my seat right now because I was the VA liaison to tricare in the west region.
Dana Goldberg
Oh, wow.
Allison Gill
And, you know, I have to say that from my experience, what I attribute this to is these mass firings. I was removed because Trump didn't like me. I was one of two people in the whole country that helped run TRICARE claims.
Dana Goldberg
Wow.
Allison Gill
And we had a, you know, 10 second hold time and we were, we didn't have a backlog of claims and we certainly didn't go in and try to claw back during contract changes, things that had been paid.
Dana Goldberg
Yeah. And I have to wonder if that's been paid and now they're asking for repayment. I understand that it sounds like the federal government is rescinding their payments. I just have to wonder if some of these insurance, private insurance companies are double dipping.
Allison Gill
Yeah, exactly. That's kind of why we had government employees in TRICARE, Tri West Virginia was to make sure that our contractors, HealthNet, UnitedHealth, Tri west, weren't people over.
Dana Goldberg
Yeah.
Allison Gill
And I, I have to say that that seems to me what's happening here. All right, next up from the Times, a kidney transplant specialist and professor at Brown University's medical school has been deported from the United States even though she had a valid visa and a court order temporarily blocking her expulsion. That's according to her lawyer and court papers. Dr. Rasha Alawe. She's 34, she's Lebanese. She traveled to her home country last month to visit relatives, and she was detained on Thursday when she returned from that trip to the United States, according to a court complaint filed by her cousin, Judge Leo Sorokin of the federal District court in Massachusetts, ordered the government on Friday to provide the court with 48 hours notice before deporting her, but she was put on a flight to Paris, presumably on her way to Lebanon anyway. In a second order filed Sunday morning, the judge said there was no reason to believe U.S. customs and Border Protection had willfully disobeyed his previous order to give the court notice before expelling the doctor. But he said he had followed a common practice in this district as it had been for years, and ordered the federal agency to respond to what he called serious allegations. Thomas Brown, a lawyer representing Dr. Alawe and her employer, Brown Medicine, said that while the doctor was In Lebanon, the US consulate issued her an H1B visa, which allows highly skilled foreign citizens to live and work in the United States. Brown Medicine, a non profit medical practice, had sponsored her application for the visa. According to her you know her? I said her family member filed the complaint. According to that complaint, when Dr. Allowe landed at Boston Logan International Airport on Thursday, she was detained by Customs and Border Protection officers and held at the airport for 36 hours.
Dana Goldberg
Jeez.
Allison Gill
@ the time, the reasons were unclear, but Politico is now reporting that federal authorities say they deported her after finding, quote, sympathetic photos and videos of prominent Hezbollah figures in a deleted items folder on her cell phone.
Dana Goldberg
Thanks so much my friend. This last one is from Consequence of Sound and CBS News. Last year, the Chicago based nonprofit Equity Arc organized a program that invited 30 teenage musicians to perform with the United States Marine Band. This is a long running federal institution that was founded in 1798. The concert was supposed to take place on May 4, but thanks to Donald Trump's wave of executive orders targeting diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives, it was indefinitely canceled. However, thanks to a group of Marine Band veterans, the concert went forward anyway. As profiled on Sunday's episode of 60 Minutes, the initiative began after the United States Marine Band contacted equity arc in 2022. The Marines were looking to foster music education for the youth and to reach out to young musicians of color, as today's American orchestras remain overwhelmingly white, 80% white, 11% Asian, 5% Hispanic and 2% black. The resulting collaboration saw about 60 teenage musicians virtually auditioned a chance to play and study with the band, with about half being selected for the trip to Washington, D.C. but because it was a program focused on diversity and inclusion, one of Trump's Day one executive orders ending radical and wasteful government DEI programs and preferencing, it mandated its cancellation. Quote as long as the executive order is in place. We will not be able to reschedule. That's what Equity ARC Stan Thompson wrote in an email to the Marine Band's commanding officer. He said, I really, really sorry to be the bearer of this bad news. In response to the program's cancellation and to the intentions behind the executive order as a whole, the 30 musicians in Equity Arc planned a makeup concert after 60 Minutes flew them out to conduct interviews for the profile, a common practice, by the way, of the news program. Equity ARC organized rehearsals and booked a concert hall in place of the official Marine Band, who were ordered to stand down. Former members of the United States Marine Band filled in instead. How great is that that the original Marine Band concert would have been seen by hundreds here tonight. These musicians are being heard by millions.
Allison Gill
I love that. It reminds me of those kids, remember, whose play got canceled and they wanted.
Dana Goldberg
Sure do.
Allison Gill
On their own anyway. And, like, Sarah Bareilles was like, hell, yeah. And it got, like, all this amazing attention. Yeah. Just. Can you imagine being one of those 30 kids who auditioned to work with the Marine Band?
Dana Goldberg
No.
Allison Gill
And getting a trip to Washington, D.C. and if you've never seen the Marine Band, Dana, you and I saw him at the White House.
Dana Goldberg
Oh, it was powerful.
Allison Gill
They're just incredible. To be like a kid from an underserved community, to be able to go and play with the Marine Band and study with them and then to be told that it's canceled because you're brown.
Dana Goldberg
Yeah.
Allison Gill
Just devastating. So for these former Marine Band veterans to step up and do this, it's just fantastic.
Dana Goldberg
So I love it. Good people doing good things and causing good trouble. That's for sure.
Allison Gill
Yes. And speaking of good trouble, let's. Let's get to some good trouble. What are you guys doing? You're, like, moving along, Gil.
Dana Goldberg
No.
Allison Gill
You'Re like, I got a segue for you right here. All right. Your good trouble today is from our good friend Charlotte Clymer, who I just have the ultimate love and respect for. As do I, Charlotte Wright. Senator Chuck Schumer of New York has led the Senate Democratic caucus since 2017. Between Election Day and 2024 and Inauguration Day in January, Mr. Schumer completely failed to prepare for the widely anticipated threats posed to the stability of our country by Donald Trump and Elon Musk. In the early months of the 119th Congress, Schumer has been effectively impotent as minority leader, offering no comprehensive plan or strategy to combat the efforts by Trump and Elon Musk to demolish the federal government and harm the American people. Drastic and unnecessary cuts to essential programs and agencies that help the most vulnerable in our country should not be tolerated by any lawmaker, let alone a Democratic one. Mr. Schumer stated approach of waiting for Trump to screw up and continue this inexplicable embrace of the slippery slope is wholly inadequate and an astonishing failure of leadership. With his vote to approve Trump's federal budget continuing resolution, Mr. Schumer has decidedly abdicated his critical responsibilities to the American people. In a moment of compounding crisis for our nation and the world, we the undersigned completely reject Mr. Schumer's approach of appeasement in response to the deeply irresponsible, dangerous and cruel attacks by Trump and Elon Musk on the American people. And until Senate Democrats force Mr. Schumer to step down as minority leader, we will not give a dime to any Senate Democrat, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, the Democratic National Committee, or any other organization or committee that financially support any Senate Democrat. Enough is enough. We need new leadership to meet this grave moment, and we need it now. So that is from the brave and incredible Charlotte Clymer. And what she's talking about is a letter of petition. We've got almost 30,000 signatures, and we're going to include a link to that petition if you agree with it. You know, it's up to you, but we're going to leave a link in our show notes for that, and big hugs and high fives to my good friend Charlotte.
Dana Goldberg
And well said, not all the good trouble applies to everyone. I know some of the things we talk about in the podcast resonate with some more than others. And that's what the joy and beauty of all this is. You know, not everyone's going to have the energy to do the good trouble every time. And not everyone may actually feel like that's their, you know, path. But this is going to resonate with at least one person. And I promise you, one person makes a difference.
Allison Gill
Yeah, I appreciate that, Dana, and appreciate you, Charlotte. Everybody, we have a lot of good news to get to, so stick around. We'll be right back after these messages. We'll be right back. Hey, everybody, it's Ag. I used to feel like I was constantly running on empty. Between work and life and stress and Trump regime and everything in between. I was struggling with restless nights, back pain, waking up drenched in sweat because of menopause. Yay. My apple watch confirmed it too. Low recovery scores, restless sleep cycles, no deep sleep at all. And I knew something had to change. And that's when I discovered Helix. A friend of mine recommended it years ago and after hearing my friend Ray Brave about Helix, I decided to give it a try. And from the very first night, the difference was incredible. My Helix mattress provided the perfect balance of support and comfort and my sleep tracking data started to improve immediately. Now I'm getting longer, deeper sleep phases. My recovery scores have skyrocketed. I wake up feeling genuinely refreshed. My back pain gone. Thing of the past. Night sweats Dunzo Thing of the past. No more tossing, no more turning and no more overheating. What I love the most is how Helix has improved my everyday life. I feel more focused, more energized, and just better overall. It's not just a mattress, it's a game changer. Helix's innovative sleep design and cooling technology have made all the difference and I can't imagine going back to my old mattress. So we want a little good trouble. Get some sleep so you can make those good fights and you know, make your room a sanctuary. Make it amazing and peaceful in a place where you get really good rest. So if you've been struggling with restless nights, it's time to give Helix a try. Trust me, your body will thank you. Go to helixsleep.comdailybeans for 20% off site wide. That's helixsleep.com dailybeans for 20% off site wide again. Helix slee sleep.com dailybeans. You'll be glad you did and this episode is brought to you by IQ Bar, our exclusive snack sponsor. I love snacks. IQ Bar is the better for you. Plant protein based snack made with brain boosting nutrients to refuel, nourish and satisfy hunger. Without the sugar crash. IQ Bar is offering our podcast listeners an exclusive deal. 20% off all IQ bar products plus free shipping. Just text Daily Beans all one word to 64,000 staying energized throughout the day can be a challenge these days, but IQ Bar makes it easy. These plant based protein bars are packed with high quality ingredients that support both brain and body function, keeping me fueled and focused no matter what's on my schedule. Plus, they're completely free from gluten, dairy, soy GMOs and artificial sweeteners, so I know I'm making a smarter snacking Choice. With over 20,000 five star reviews, it's no surprise that more people are turning to IQ Bars, protein bars, hydration mixes and mushroom coffees to start your day strong. When IQ Bar sent me their ultimate Sampler pack, I was immediately hooked on the banana nut flavor. It's so Good. It's like banana bread, but packed with protein and brain boosting nutrients. These bars help me stay sharp, keep hunger in check and avoid the dreaded sugar crash. Whether I need a pre workout snack or a midday pick me up or just something quick before a busy day, IQ Bar has me covered. And right now IQBar is offering special podcast listeners 20% off all IQ Bar products. All of them. Plus you get free shipping. So to get your 20% off, text daily beans to 64,000. Again, text daily beans to 64,001. That's daily beans all one word to 64,000. Message and data rates apply. See terms for details. All right everybody, welcome back. It's time for the good news. Who likes good news? Everyone? Then good news everyone. And if you have any good news stories you want to tell us about a happy thing that's been happening in your life, maybe even something very tiny and small that you, that you or a loved one have done. If you have any confessions or corrections or misheard song lyrics or street jokes you want to tell us, any shout outs you want to give to a family member, a loved one, a small business in your area, your small business, a self shout out. We love those too. And then of course, shout outs to government programs that have helped you or your family or a loved one or, you know, a family member, if you will, whether it's Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Affordable care Act, the PACT act, great VA health care you've received, WIC, Section 8, SNAP, anything at all. And student debt relief too. Send that to us. And all you got to do to get your good news read on the air is to attach a photo of your pod pet, pay your pod pet tax, and if you don't have a pet pet, you can attach an adoptable pet in your area. We'll see if we can find him a forever home. If you don't have that, any photo of any animal off the Internet works.
Dana Goldberg
Yep.
Allison Gill
We're also doing bird watching for the foreseeable future, which is you, family and friends flipping off Trump and Musk properties. And then of course, if you don't have any of that, you can always send in your baby pictures. We should really make baby pictures like the first thing because we absolutely love baby pictures. That's not a last resort. Please send us your baby photos. Send it to us daily beanspod.com click on contact. All right, this first one is a bird watching photo. And by the way, that Tiffany set diamond is gorgeous and so is the manicure. All right, just commenting on that There. This is from Anonymous. She her. I had never contacted a representative before and lo, you've inspired me. All of them are now in my contact list and they hear from me on the regular. I also filed the paperwork with Doge and shared it with my network up Odd Pet Tax is our two rescue kitties, Earl and Jasper. And a bird watching photo from this weekend when I saw the mall had a Tesla dealership. What the hell? I am with you Anonymous. Why are there car dealerships in malls? Oh look at the sweet babies. They're both Grays or Russell.
Dana Goldberg
Very sweet.
Allison Gill
Something like that. And I see you're watching. Thanks so much cuties. Thank you.
Dana Goldberg
All right, this is from Misha G. Pronoun she and her I have a correction of a historical point for my Queens of Beans when we see it through the lens of the Constitution, the internment of enemy aliens and the relocation imprisonment of Japanese Americans are two separate acts. The Alien Enemies act allows the government to detain for investigation citizens and natives of nations we are at war with. During World War II, the FBI rounded up Italians, Germans and Japanese citizens living in the usa. The evacuation and eventual imprisonment of American citizens of Japanese descent was carried out through executive order order 9066, not the Alien Enemies Act. Approximately 120,000 people were quote unquote, relocated from the west coast and held in concentration camps. Many lost their homes and farms because they could not pay property taxes while incarcerated under the Supreme Court ruling. Ex part. Help me with this one. Ex parte endo. Yep, Ex parte endo. The court found that the government did not have the right to imprison these people, most of whom were American citizens, without due process as outlined in the Fifth Amendment. The concentration camps were officially closed the day before this ruling was announced. So here's the text. The the text of ex parte and no thank you. That'll be a link in the show. Notes. Thank you for this. I learn things every day on this podcast.
Allison Gill
Yes, yes I. I do. Wasn't what caused that, but it was part of the legal rationale. The Alien Anom act was part of the rationale for mass internments of Germans, Italians and Japanese. But yeah, it was the Executive Order that put it into motion and then it used the Alien Enemies act to justify it. Sort of, you know, like how you do case citations. Like here's the nine things that give us the power to do that. That was one of them. Thank you so much for that clarification. Misha G. Next up from Alison. Excellent name spelled properly. I see Pronouns she and her hello beans Queens. I'm a new listener with an idea for some good trouble shenanigans. Good shenanigans. Monday, March 17 was St. Patrick's Day. Wouldn't it really be a shame if the Department of Education's End Diversity, Equity and Inclusion portal got flooded with submissions about Schools celebrating St. Patrick's Day elementary party with green snacks. Report it. Students wearing green to celebrate. Report it. School newsletters with shamrocks. Report it. Green grass peeking through the dead earth. Report it. Kidding. Kind of. My pet taxes me and my dog Cooper competing in a dock jumping competition a few years ago. I love these. These dogs can fly. Cooper will be 10 next month and his dock jumping days are over. But I'll always look back fondly on these days when you got ribbons for jumping in the Chunky Dog Div. Thanks for all you do.
Dana Goldberg
I would compete in the Chunky Person division if I had an opportunity just to get a medal.
Allison Gill
Oh, it's great. I love it.
Dana Goldberg
I have a feeling this next one is some more good news. Susan Pronouns she and her beans Queens, thank you for keeping us all informed and engaged. As a follow up to a past submission praising the decision by Philly band Low Cut Connie to cancel their stop at the Kennedy Center, I wanted to share that they have a rescheduled DC show this Wednesday at the Miracle Theater.
Allison Gill
The Miracle Theater. Mueller, she Wrote, played at the Miracle Theater.
Dana Goldberg
That's awesome. And the newly scheduled show will direct some of the proceeds to benefit the D.C. center. That's an LGBTQ community center. Big thanks to lead Adam Weiner for using his platform to speak out and for continually finding ways to support his diverse fan base and community. My pod pet tax is 15 year old Chase and an amazing side eye and snaggle toothpick I was lucky to snap On Thursday I decided this the official response photo at the terrible dad jokes that are being told in my office. And I love that you compared it to this meme because she's one of my favorite children.
Allison Gill
Yeah, you know the little blonde girl with the like, excuse me, look in her face sitting in the car seat. Yeah, this is a really great side by side. Oh my God. That's hilarious. Susan. Thank you. And thanks to Low Cut Connie, we have a link to that band in the show notes. Here is the statement. I'm canceling my upcoming show at the Kennedy Center. I was very excited to perform as part of this wonderful institution Social Impact series which emphasizes community, joy, justice and equity through the arts. Upon learning that this institution that has run nonpartisan for 54 years now is chaired by President Trump himself and his regime. I decided I won't perform there. Our little Rock and Roll act stands for diversity, inclusion and truth telling. My extended Low Cut Khani community includes black, white, gay, straight, transgender, Jew, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, atheist and immigrant individuals, all of whom are wonderful upstanding Americans. Many of these folks will be directly negatively affected by this administration's policies and messaging. President Trump has appointed a new board, not a single member of which has any arts experience whatsoever. Arts institutions are one area that should be immune from our corrosive political culture. I sincerely wish for the Kennedy center to return to a nonpartisan community building model of arts programming. Until that occurs, I won't perform that there. Maybe my career will suffer from this decision, but my soul will be the better for it. Adam Weiner, AKA Low Cut Connie rock and roll artist from Philadelphia. So thank you for that. And again, there's a link to go check out Low Cut Connie. Let's just flood them with like Spotify listens and everybody go check out their DC show. Go to a Low Cut Connie show in your area. That's some really good, good Trouble Trouble. Next up from Judy M. She they hello Bean bays. I love it. Writing in to report Good Trouble event coming on March 23rd the NALC union for letter carriers. They're holding a countrywide rally to fight back against dismantling the Postal Service. As everyone may have heard, Doge has finally placed their rotten illegal sites up on the USPS, terming 10,000 employees as a letter carrier in Santa Ana, California. I can attest that they were not overstaffed. I have long believed they're going to tank these sectors so they have a valid reason for privatization. Judy I agree. If anyone's interested in attending a rally, look up nalc.org March 23 for a rally near you. I will personally at the 15642 Sand Canyon in Irvine at 11am with local 737. Swing by and say hi to the carrier with the blue hair. Again, that's 15642 Sand Canyon in Irvine at 11am on March 23. I haven't heard misheard song lyrics in a while, and though I have many, the one that I still can't unhear is Prince's little red Corvette. I guess I should have known by the way you popped your collar sideways that it wouldn't last. In my defense, it was the 90s. Polo shirts were the rage. We all popped our collars. I just couldn't figure out why? That would be a deal breaker.
Dana Goldberg
Oh, my God, that's funny.
Allison Gill
Although I will say, Judy, why is parking your car sideways a deal breaker too? Thank you for everything you do to put the show on. You are an invaluable source for stories that matter and that go unnoticed or under reported in the mainstream. Thank you so much, Judy.
Dana Goldberg
Thank you so much indeed. This is from Joan P. Pronoun. She and her hello, Queens of the Beans. I'm a relatively new listener. Welcome to the family, Joan. And a patron. And I am so grateful to you both for all the work you're doing. I want to do a shout out to a group of LGBTQ people who have come together to activate against this attack from the GOP and Trump. Trump. We formed a group in 2017 against Trump 01, Trump the first, and we are at it again. We are involved in a variety of organizations here. Invisible Sacramento, Nor Cal Resist. And we do our five calls daily and protest when we can. I try to do the good trouble daily and share to the group as well. The heartbreaking part of our gang is that two of the trans people in this group are seriously talking about moving out of the country. And I get it and I hate it. I've included a pic of our two dogs. Jada is the one with the ball, and short one is Kylie. There's also a pic of my daughter as a toddler, now a public defender. Nice. And me. I have also included a photo of me in my support trans kids T shirt saluting home in Sacramento that I to call the Trump dump. Thank you again with so much love. Oh, my God. I can't believe.
Allison Gill
Yeah, we have one like that out here in the Rosecrans area. Every time I drive by it, I'm like, what the is wrong with these people? It's a cult.
Dana Goldberg
I'm also confused. Why are these flags all in the same house?
Allison Gill
Or is there.
Dana Goldberg
There's like a we the people means everyone and it's got a rainbow flag.
Allison Gill
Yeah. Maybe somebody cool put that one up.
Dana Goldberg
Maybe. Yeah. That's why I'm like, what in the hell?
Allison Gill
Yeah, Trump and then his assassination attempt. Dumb photo and his dare to keep kids off drugs. Truth social.com and then a we the people means everyone. Yeah.
Dana Goldberg
It's very confusing. So I don't know if someone put that flag up and maybe it was our protester here, but thank you for the picture and the birds and an adorable shot. Oh, these with you and the little and the puppers.
Allison Gill
That little is adorable. And your hair color is Fantastic.
Dana Goldberg
Yep.
Allison Gill
And super sweet doggos on the beach. They're so cute. I love dogs. You know I was watching that. Nope. You know what? I'm not going to do any severance.
Dana Goldberg
No, no.
Allison Gill
Just go on to the next. Yep. All right. Finally from Anonymous Pronoun she and her Good morning, Allison and Dana. I want to thank you for what you do. It is a good reminder to stay engaged and not allow myself to wallow, which is very easy to do. Anonymous. I get it. It. Although they don't listen to your show, I'd like to shout out my friends who have sent me various ways to stay engaged. One went with me to protest at the State Capitol in St. Paul on International Women's Day. By the way, St. Paul is a beautiful Capitol building. Another sent me a suggestion to join a Facebook initiated plan to send Trump postcards on March 15th.
Dana Goldberg
Nice.
Allison Gill
At the White House with your fired included. It was very cathartic. Yes. The Ides of March postcard campaign. I remember that that since I purchased multiple postcards and stamps, I feel compelled to use all of them up. So I've decided that since I live in red Minnesota that whenever I'm in a rural town I'll send send him another card so he knows he's not as red as he thinks he is. I'm sharing one of my postcards. Please ignore the grammar because it was a bit heated when I wrote it. Attached for tax is my dog, Scruffy Bear. He just had his second birthday in February. My hubby promised me that he would be a medium sized dog. When I finally agreed, only to find out from the person we were getting him from for free that he was a St. Bernard Husky mix. He's a big sweetie and we love him. I like this Hooters of Minnesota postcard. It's got owls on it. And look at the St. Bernard husband.
Dana Goldberg
Oh my God. So cute. It's a cute puppers.
Allison Gill
Yes. Wonderful. And there's a snap of the postcard in there too. And if you're a patron, you can see these photos if you want to become a patron. Patreon.com Mullershire wrote and it's like three bucks a month. It's like the best deal in the universe. 36 bucks a year. You get all of these shows ad free. You get them early. You get to come to our Zoom Happy hours. You get to come to our galas, our live events, you get pre sale tickets, all kinds of really cool stuff. Plus there's like a merch. There's like shirts and tote bags and mugs and that you get for free stickers if you sign up at certain levels. Anyway, it's rad. Check it out. Patreon.com Muller she wrote. And at $5 a month, you also get unjustified with me and Andy McCabe. All the same benefits. So. So anyway, any final thoughts before we get out of here today, my friend?
Dana Goldberg
No. Let's cut it and go rest. You all go rest too.
Allison Gill
Yes, rest is very important. Sleep is my new favorite thing. It evades me sometimes.
Dana Goldberg
It does indeed.
Allison Gill
With my Helix mattress, I get really, really good sleep. I just have to put my head down on the pillow. That's the thing. I just have to show up to the sleeping position and then I will get to sleep. Thank you all so much. We'll be back in your ears tomorrow. Until then, please take care of yourself, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health and take care of your family. I've been AG and I've been DG and them's the Beans. The Daily Beans is written and executive produced by Allison Gill with additional research and reporting by Dana Goldberg. Sound design and editing is by Desiree McFarlane with art and web design by Joelle Reader with Moxie Design Studios. Music for the Daily Beans is written and performed by they Might Be Giants and the show is a proud member of the MSW Media Network, a collection of creator owned podcasts dedicated to news, politics and justice. For more information Please visit msw media.com msw media.
The Daily Beans: Episode Summary – "Manic Tuesday"
Release Date: March 18, 2025
Host: Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg
Produced by: MSW Media
Key Discussion Points: Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg delve into recent actions by Senator Chuck Schumer, particularly his decision to cancel his book tour amidst escalating political tensions. The hosts express frustration over what they perceive as a lack of strong leadership from senior Democratic figures.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: The conversation highlights concerns over Democratic leadership's ability to effectively counteract Republican strategies, especially in the context of national security and governmental stability. They critique Schumer's approach of seeking bipartisan cooperation, arguing it is outdated and ineffective against current political challenges.
A. Emergency Hearing on Deportation Plans
Key Discussion Points: The hosts discuss Judge Boasberg's emergency hearing concerning the Trump administration's refusal to comply with a court order to halt deportation flights.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: Judge Boasberg is scrutinizing the DOJ's non-compliance, considering holding the Trump administration in contempt. The situation underscores ongoing tensions between the judiciary and executive branches over immigration policies and enforcement.
B. Deportation of Dr. Rasha Alawe
Key Discussion Points: The episode covers the controversial deportation of Dr. Rasha Alawe, a Brown University kidney transplant specialist, despite her valid visa and a temporary court order blocking her expulsion.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: Dr. Alawe's case highlights potential overreach in immigration enforcement, raising questions about due process and the criteria used for deportation. The presence of Hezbollah-related content on her phone was cited as a reason, sparking debates on national security versus individual rights.
Key Discussion Points: Allison and Dana analyze the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals' decision to deny President Trump's motion regarding federal employees' reinstatement.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: The appellate court's ruling is seen as a significant triumph for federal employees, mandating the reinstatement of thousands of probationary workers who were previously terminated. The decision emphasizes the judiciary's role in upholding employment rights against executive overreach.
Case Study: The Smiths’ TRICARE Issue
Key Discussion Points: The hosts discuss the plight of Harv and Janice Smith, a Navy veteran couple facing substantial medical debt due to TRICARE's retroactive denial of approved claims.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: This segment sheds light on systemic issues within TRICARE, including delayed customer service and aggressive claim reversals. Allison Gill shares personal grievances as a former VA liaison, suggesting that political interference and mass firings have exacerbated service disruptions.
Cancellation of Marine Band Collaboration
Key Discussion Points: Due to Executive Orders targeting Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI), a planned collaboration between teenage musicians and the U.S. Marine Band was canceled. However, Marine Band veterans facilitated an alternative concert.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: The cancellation reflects the broader impact of anti-DEI policies on cultural and educational initiatives. The resilience of the musicians and veterans in organizing a successful alternative concert exemplifies community-driven solutions in the face of governmental restrictions.
A. Correcting Historical Facts
Key Discussion Points: Listener Misha G. clarifies the distinction between the Alien Enemies Act and Executive Order 9066, emphasizing the legal basis for the internment of Japanese Americans during WWII.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: This correction fosters a more accurate understanding of historical events, reinforcing the importance of precise information in public discourse.
B. Community Shoutouts and Animal Photos
Key Discussion Points: Listeners share heartwarming stories, corrections, and adorable animal photos. Contributors include anonymous listeners showcasing their pets and sharing personal achievements.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: These segments highlight the podcast's role in building a supportive community, encouraging activism, and celebrating personal milestones.
A. Petition Against Senator Schumer
Key Discussion Points: Charlotte Clymer announces a petition demanding Senator Schumer step down as minority leader, collecting nearly 30,000 signatures. The petition emphasizes the need for new leadership to counteract perceived threats from Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: The petition underscores growing dissatisfaction within the Democratic base regarding leadership efficacy. It calls for accountability and a strategic shift to better address current political challenges.
B. Support for the Postal Service
Key Discussion Points: Judy M. promotes a nationwide rally organized by the NALC Union for letter carriers to oppose the dismantling of the Postal Service, citing recent layoffs and privatization efforts.
Notable Quotes:
Insights: This advocacy reflects ongoing labor struggles and the broader battle to preserve essential public services against privatization pressures.
The episode concludes with Allison and Dana encouraging listeners to take action, stay informed, and support community initiatives. They emphasize the importance of collective effort in driving social and political change.
Final Thoughts: "Manic Tuesday" offers a comprehensive look at pressing political and social issues, blending hard-hitting news with community engagement. Through insightful discussions and active listener participation, Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg create a platform that not only informs but also empowers their audience to effect meaningful change.
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