Sarah Parker (27:40)

Thank you so much for having me on. I'm doing all right sitting here in LA right now.

Alison Gill (27:44)

Yeah, that's what you were saying before we went online is that you're up in la and I'm so glad that we got to talk to you today because I know a lot of folks who may not have thought to come out to the no Kings rally this Saturday have changed their mind and want to go out and peacefully protest. And this is something that you know a lot about. So coupled with the Teen Vogue article that I went over earlier about knowing your rights and what to do during a protest, I wanted to bring on an expert. So talk a little bit about your expertise, your experience, what you've been doing, you know, the stuff that you're organizing and your role in all this.

Sarah Parker (28:20)

Yeah. So I actually, you know, it's crazy to be called an expert because it feels like I can close my eyes and go back to Occupy. Right. And being 18 year old. Sarah. So I have been a activist because there's a difference between being an organizer and activist. And people don't like to Talk about that. But I've been an activist since Occupy. And a little after that I started to be an organizer, meaning I was organizing protest, being on the ground, organizing safety. So that's since 2000, I want to say 11. And I was also a part of BLM in my local chapter, Black Lives Matter Minnesota. And eventually I started my nonprofit with a bunch of friends. We were in a nonprofit to begin with. We were just a bunch of activists that got together to, to push back against an abortion ban in Manatee county in Florida. So I was thinking the other day, I was like, I've probably been to over 100 protests and I've probably organized at least half of those or been a part of some kind of organizing with that. I've seen things from sleeping outside to the BLM protest and then we slept outside again, a lot of different direct actions, such as dropping abortion stories onto the house floor in Florida. So I have been, I've been involved in the activist community for a long time. It's something that fills my cup sometimes empties it, but most times it fills it.

Alison Gill (29:44)

So talk a little bit about stuff you've learned in this history that you have of your activism about being at protests. Because at some point we all went to our first protest. I think mine was at City hall in Arizona when, you know, the first Gulf War, the two week shock and awe thing in Kuwait. So every, everybody has a first time when they're at a protest. And what are some of the things that you've learned, lessons that you've learned about protests and activism that you want to share with some folks who might be headed out to a protest for their first time this Saturday.

Sarah Parker (30:20)

Number one thing, drink water. Drink water. Do not, do not feel bad when someone offers you water and you're like, I don't need it. No, you need it. Drink it. You do not want people to. You don't want to pass out, eat food before you go. I know this sounds like very basic, but it's incredibly important because it's going to be hot in a lot of areas and you may very well pass out. And we don't want that to happen. Number 2A, I guess, is you're not there to fight against your opposition. Right. Your opposition is the Goliath, the federal government, your state government.

Alison Gill (30:52)

Government.

Sarah Parker (30:52)

You're not there to go fight with the proud boys that are across the street as much as you want to. You're not going to convince them in that moment, in that time to come over to the other, to the Other side, there's a 99% chance you will not convince them. If you want to, like, gamble that 1%, you're just not a really good gambler, in my opinion. And you should probably not hit up Las Vegas. Go be in the crowd. Go be in community. Make your voice heard. Don't spend half of your day arguing with someone that is coming out because they're just as passionate as you. They're wrong, right? We know that, but they're just as passionate as you are. So that would be two. Let's say three. Dress like you're going to a protest. That's one thing that I can say, like, definitely, with everything being heightened, make sure you wear, like, long, like, pants, you know, or leggings, short to long sleeves. Those are things. Those things are important. If you have a jacket, wear your jacket. But also, like, make sure you have short sleeves under that. Because again, we go back to. We don't want you to pass out. We don't want you to overheat. Listen to the organizers. They have your best interest at heart, right? In BLM days, I was not one of those people that listened to the organizers. I'd, like, go around them and then get in front. Get in the front line of the cops. Definitely almost got tear gassed because of that. Definitely had to hide behind a tombstone because of that. So listen to your organizers. That's really important. They want to keep you safe. They want to keep the community, your community, safe. Another thing is the organizers are just as responsible to you to keep you safe, but you're also responsible to keep the people next to you safe. So if you see something, say something, right? That's incredibly important. If you see someone about to pass out, call for a medic. If you see someone needs water and you have an extra water, give them a water, right? You're in community. Like, everyone has. Everyone's a piece of this puzzle to keep people safe. Then one of the things is, like, you know, in some cases, depending on where you're going, wear a mask. If definitely, if you have, like, a job that does not want you to be protesting, like, make sure that you're wearing, like, a 95 mask or just a regular, you know, just a regular mask. Because there's likely chance that media will be all around and there's a chance that you can go wind up on the front screen. If people try to interview you in the crowd, ask them who they're with. Don't just go up to them and be like, I trust you. We had something Very recently happen where Caitlin Bennett, I don't know if we remember her. You know, I'm not going get into her. But she was going around and she was saying she was occupied Democrats. Multiple people from my safety team told people, no, she's not. And there's a video of this lady literally going back up to her being like, I don't believe them. I believe that you're with occupied Democrats. And she started asking her trick questions. Here's the thing, even with that, what they're going to do, definitely their opposition and they're interviewing you. No matter what you say, they're going to cut it up and you're still going to look bad. So make sure we're asking. We're asking who, who they are, who they're with and double and fact checking all of that. So, like that's.

Alison Gill (33:51)

Yeah, because press has credentials that you can look at.

Sarah Parker (33:54)

100%. Yep. 100%.

Alison Gill (33:56)

Mm. Man. I think that that's so important because what I've learned through the marches and rallies and protests I've been at is to, like you said, just be with the community and protect each other. It's almost like mosh pit rules. Right? Like we all just have to take care of each other and to try not to engage with counter protesters because that is actually what they want. That's what they're there for. Right. Is to create issues and problems. So what do you suggest when the umbrella brigade or whatever pop up like these, These folks who are actually there to try to cause problems, Just avoid them at, with. At all costs.

Sarah Parker (34:37)

Yeah, avoid them. You know, don't talk to them. I mean, in certain places, like they can get into your crowd. Don't engage. You know, it's not worth it at the end of the day, like, you could be endangering someone else. You can be endangering yourself. I used to be really against non engagements. I used to be like, no, engage, engage, engage, engage. But then I started realizing that was just selfish of me to want to engage all the time because I was harming other people or potentially harming other people by getting this person hyped up. Right. And a lot of those people are emotionally volatile. So you don't want to cause them to become even more so emotionally volatile and say, push you. Because if someone sees you being pushed, they may come over there to try to protect you. Right now you have two people over there. Once you have two people, it's a screaming match. Now people are going to start to surround. Don't engage with them. You're not there for that. Not that day. You're not there for that. And if they continue, depending on how your organizers say to call for safety, call for safety, call for safety, move away from them. You're not there for them. Don't give them power. All they want is that clip of you yelling or freaking out or you touching their phone to get their phone out of your face so that they can either call the cops on you or so that they can post this online and say, look at the, the, the tolerant left. So yeah, don't engage with them.

Alison Gill (35:53)

Yeah. Something else I learned too, don't spit on people. That's actually assault in some places. So, yeah, 17 year old Allison, if I could go back and tell her anything, it would be that. In your position, in your leadership position at your organization, how do you see the recent actions with ICE and what Trump is doing with calling the troops out against citizens? How is that sparking a lot of first time organizers, do you think?

Sarah Parker (36:18)

Yeah, I believe so. I think we're seeing something very similar to 2020. I came out here to LA because as you probably know, I don't know if the viewers do know or listeners. I am also a national organizer with 5051. We're a national partner, Voices of Florida. And a long time ago when we first started, I said, you know, if anything ever goes south somewhere, like, I will, I'll come. Because like, as an activist, as a seasoned organizer, I felt like it's my duty to not only pass around, pass down the lessons that I was given, but to be there and hand in hand with people that may not know how to navigate a situation like this. And I'm seeing a lot of new organizers on the ground here in la. I'm seeing a lot of new organizers popping up across the country. This is, for lack of a better word, this is a fire that is spreading across the country. And this is, you know, the same thing happened with blm. We saw a lot of new organizers pop up and they've still been organizing. I mean, look at me. Like I was one of those people that, you know, it pushed me, it changed me. Occupy radicalized me, but BLM again radicalized me. And now I'm even sitting here in LA and I'm like learning new things. And I had that same passion that I did when Sarah was in her 20s.

Alison Gill (37:32)

Well, I'm glad to see it and I want to thank you for all the work that you're doing in Florida and nationally with 50:51. We're going to be having a big rally here in San Diego at the county administration building. And you know, shortly before what happened in Los Angeles, and we should be clear, the thing that sparked the protests in Los Angeles was the unlawful abduction of people who were showing up for their immigration appointments and then thrown into a basement and held. They were tricked into coming in. And this is going to, I think, drive people underground and make them afraid to show up for their hearings and things like that. And so before all that went down, just the week prior, a couple blocks from my house, we had ICE come and raid a restaurant on a Friday evening where families were eating. And they zip tied all of the employment and the staff at the restaurant at Buona Forchetta and then used flashbangs when about a hundred people started to gather to peacefully protest what was happening at the restaurant. And they're doing this in our towns and our neighborhoods. And to be clear, Sarah, as you know, this has been going on for a long time, but now we're all sort of seeing it and hearing it because, you know, everybody's got a phone, everybody's got a camera in their pocket. And I really want to encourage people and tell me if I'm wrong here, but I want to encourage people to get the video of the peaceful, awesome things that are happening and put those out there. Because I don't think we can rely on corporate media to share what's really going on on the ground.

Sarah Parker (38:58)

Yeah, I think it's double sided. I think we need to get those peaceful protests out there. I think also when you see police being violent, I think we need to. And ICE agents being violent, we need to get that out there. We live in a time of social media media where we can be the reporters, the citizens can be the reporters. And I think it's important too, because if you look at the percentages of like, how, like what's a trusted source? A lot of people do not trust mainstream media on both sides for a good reason, you know, And I think to like your point earlier, you're like, a lot of people are seeing this and they're coming out. I keep hearing, like, what would you have done during Nazi Germany?

Alison Gill (39:33)

Right?

Sarah Parker (39:33)

And I think that we're kind of past that. It's what would you do? Where at? What would you do? So if you're not taking the streets, like that's what you would have done. You've made that decision. You're making it very clear. You know, obviously people that cannot take the streets, your job is to digitally organize. Your job is to get out there. And when I say get out there, get on your computer, get on your phone and to share the things that are happening and to share the protests that are going on, to call your legislators. So, like, everyone has a piece right now and one piece of that is recording and sending out those videos and posting those videos on both sides.

Alison Gill (40:03)

Yeah. I don't think Derek Chauvin would have been convicted of the murder of George Floyd were it not for a citizen with their phone.

Sarah Parker (40:09)

Period. Period.

Alison Gill (40:10)

Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming on today. Would you let everybody know how they can find, follow and support your work at your organization?

Sarah Parker (40:17)

Yeah. So my name is Sarah Parker, Voices of Florida. That's V O I C E S of of Florida. F l O r dash I D a dot org. You can follow us there on all social medias. Also check out 50 51. So that's 5050.1 online. And then you can look at, look us up on Facebook, Instagram, Reddit. We're everywhere. Get involved. You don't have to get involved with us. You can get involved with anyone. It is now time for us to all work together. Get involved. 5051. Start your own organization. I don't care how you get out there, just get out there.

Alison Gill (40:50)

That's the key. Right? We show up in March, but we also have to organize in the way that we all can contact each other the next time we need to take action. And we do that by joining our clubs, joining our local indivisible chapter, getting on 50:51, which is F I F T Y F I f t y1 and making sure that we are contactable and working together in that community. So I really appreciate your time today. It's been fascinating to talk to you. Thanks for all your work. Executive director of Voices of Florida, Sarah Parker. Thank you.

John Fugelsang (41:24)

Thank you.

Alison Gill (41:25)

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John Fugelsang (43:48)

Oh, Dr. Gill, thank you so much. It's good to see you. And thank you for recording at a different time than we usually do because things are so crazy here.

Alison Gill (43:56)

It's my pleasure. We're all doing a lot of work and a lot of planning. I know I'm doing a lot of planning for no Kings Tomorrow. Yes, and Teen Vogue. Just put out an excellent article about what to know about your rights. Teen Vogue has been killing it lately in the media sphere.

John Fugelsang (44:14)

By lately you mean the last seven years, right? Because Teen Vogue puts ABC News to shame this particular week.

Alison Gill (44:22)

Why don't we open with abc? We're obviously going to talk about what's going on on the ground in California, but let's talk about abc. And Terry Maran is now free, free at last. Over on Substack, out from under the thumb of the corporate overlords there at abc. The capitulating knee bending overlords at abc. What are your thoughts about that?

John Fugelsang (44:43)

Well, I have a whole song about those people I've been working on. But you know Terry Moran, God bless him. Look, when you go to work for corporate media, which I've done many times, you know that if you say certain things you will threaten corporate media's overhead and that's understandable. It is a commercial marketplace we are in. So I've been fired from corporate media jobs and I, I was impressed very much with Terry Moran's interview with Trump in the Oval Office. And I thought, wow, he's making me want to watch more NBC News because he's actually asking follow up questions which a lot of major league news organizations seem to have become allergic to. This is the whole process. You trade information for access. I learned this when I worked at cnn. So when Terry Moran made these comments about Stephen Miller, I thought, well, wow, he told the truth. And I don't see how he doesn't get fired. And he got fired and that's ABC's right. He, they work, he works for them. They have to protect what they feel they have to protect. And so I'm not surprised he got fired. It's pathetic. He did. I wish that they had kept him. We all know that if anyone at Fox News had said the same exact words about Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders, they would have been promoted. But Terry Moran works for a news agency. So it's a different standard than being able to lie and hate for profit at Fox. So it's very frustrating. But this is the price of being the good guys and it's not fair, but this is how it is. I'm proud to be on the side that follows the rules and gets it. And again, I hope he has a great career. I'm sure he'll land someplace and I'm sure like everybody else who's paid the price for telling the truth, he will earn a legion of fans who he wouldn't have earned otherwise playing it Safe. And that's who people are looking for. Three weeks ago, we were all mocking Gavin Newsome all the time for playing kissy face and with fascists and giving Charlie Kirk a pedicure and calling it a podcast. I think I said I'm waiting for his new reality show, Dancing with Nazis. It's amazing to see how well he does and look how swiftly Gavin Newsom changed the narrative, or rather had a change narrative thrust upon. We're so starved for this. You know, there's a reason why the only Democrats that are really turning people on right now on the national level, who is it? I mean, it's Bernie and aoc, it's Chris Murphy, a handful of others, but, you know, the Schumer way, God bless him. We're not in 1996 anymore and it's not gonna work. People are really looking for leaders right now. People are really looking for someone who can tell them, no, there will be an America after all this is gone. The Democrats are in a bit of a lucky spot for all their disarray because, number one, their policies are much more popular than Republican policies across the board. And the media doesn't want to acknowledge that. We've talked about this. From women's reproductive rights to paid family leave, to decriminalizing weed, to taxing billionaires more to having Medicare covered, vision hearing in dental, to protecting the air and the water, these are popular positions Democrats have. But they're also lucky because they've got two years to figure this out. They've got a year and a half until the midterms, and they're not really going to start to coalesce around the new leader until the summer of 2028. Right?

Alison Gill (47:58)

Right.

John Fugelsang (47:58)

So, I mean, like, there's going to be a long, long midterm battle and then there's going to be a long, long battle for the presidential nomination. Who knows if Trump will still be the incumbent at that point. Let's not forget the 6 inches of plaque that encase his heart are going to decide all of this for the rest of us. But in the meantime, while they're trying to find leaders, it's going to be so inspiring to just give praise where it's due. You know, when Cory Booker gives a great filibuster, we'll praise him and then when he votes to approve Jared Kushner's daddy, we'll call him out. Same with, same with Newsom. When he does the right thing, we'll praise him when he's doing something self serving to appeal to moderates we'll note it. And I mean, that's the price you pay for not being in a cult of obedience. So Newsom's doing great and I'm so proud of all the people in la. I left LA last week and I wish I had stayed. Although if I had stayed, I might not know it because this whole bro. This whole riot. 97% of Los Angeles would not know this was happening if it wasn't for the TV and the coverage. I mean, there are magic conventions in Las Vegas that take up more square feet than this area they've sent the National Guard and the Marines to.

Alison Gill (49:04)

Yeah, then that's what, you know, kind of why I wanted to kickoff with the media. There's a picture going around from the Washingtonian that we saw in 2017 and it's like 20 different reporters taking close up photos and footage of a small trash can fire. Yes. Ignoring the rest of everything else, my.

John Fugelsang (49:22)

Friend sent me a photo of cops harassing her in her car. And there's like two cops with their rubber bullet gun harassing motorists. And then she pans the camera over and you see like 40 media filming the two cops harassing the motorists. It's just, it's such a spectacle and that's all it is. It's not border enforcement, it's a trial balloon for tyranny. And it's a media feeding frenzy.

Alison Gill (49:43)

Yeah, oh, 100%. And. But I don't think that that's going to stop us. I know that there are a couple of folks out there saying, oh, you should just stay home and do nothing.

John Fugelsang (49:52)

Because the numbers are brutal on this. Only 25% of Americans think the federal government should even be involved in these protests. Only 36% approve of what he's doing in LA. That's not a mandate. That's like a Yelp review of a cracker barrel in Van Nuys.

Alison Gill (50:05)

I mean, he's down in the 20s for golf, Gaza and Ukraine and he's underwater on immigration.

John Fugelsang (50:11)

Finally. And this thing's costing 134 million right before his, what, $100 million military parade for himself. Boy, they're doing a good job of saving money and cutting out government waste. Right? 4,000 National Guard troops and 700 Marines for a protest that's smaller than the last time somebody said the word Latinx in West Hollywood. Like, it's not a large protest. This is all a trial balloon. And I think even a lot of conservatives know it.

Alison Gill (50:38)

There's more chaos at my house during Zoomies time with the cats. If I'm being honest. So I'm gonna need the National Guard to come and, you know, post up around my house to show the cats that Zoomies are not the way.

John Fugelsang (50:52)

What I love about this is it's so symbolic. In fact, that's all that's happening here is symbolism. But I want to remind everybody that Los Angeles, in particular, we should recall, is twice stolen land.

Alison Gill (51:03)

Okay?

John Fugelsang (51:03)

First, it was stolen from the native people, specifically the Chumash and Tongva, the folks who were there long before palm trees and valet parking got imported. And then, you know, in 1850, President James K. Polk, one of our greatest land hungry, Zillow addict presidents, decided, oh, California looks cute. So he marched General Zachary Taylor over their Frontera. He pulled the original don't ask, just invade, right? And Mexico said, what the hell? And they fired back, because that's what happens when you march an army into someone else's territory. The headlines back home in 1850 read that our boys were being fired upon, like we accidentally tripped and fell into Baja. The public of 1850 got whipped up into a war frenzy. And this was not because we were attacked. We went in there in the first place because Polk wanted more land for more slave states. So now, 175 years later, we're calling this a war after taking California to add another slave state, and we're sending troops into the exact same land, and we're calling people there the invaders. I mean, Trump is out here talking about illegal immigrants like he's the bouncer in a club he just broke into. He's trying to evict people from land that our ancestors stole from people who already stole it. And it's like he's showing up at a stolen Airbnb with a SWAT team and yelling, who let these illegals in here?

Alison Gill (52:26)

Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I live. I live in San Diego, and. And the. The feeling down here is we didn't cross the border. The border crossed us. We've. We've been here. So, yeah, yeah. I mean, you bring up all really, really important points, and when we talk about Gavin News and what he's doing now, what we thought about him a couple weeks ago, I just want to. I feel like I want to kind of remind everybody that leaders aren't made in a lab, in a DNC lab, and. And if one great thing came out of what the. The, you know, all this BS that went on with the dnc, if we have one silver lining, is that now the DNC is going to not participate in the primaries and, and this was the direction they were headed because of what happened in 2016 already. But this solidifies it. And everybody's going to be watching to make sure that they don't interfere in the, in the primary elections in 2026, which I think is important. But leaders aren't created just like, you know, these rich, you know, Democrats trying to pay 30, $40 million to create the next Joe Rogan of the left. These things happen organically through movements and organization and grassroots. Our leaders will emerge. Some are already emerging. And, and, you know, who knows? But six months from now, perhaps Gavin Newsom will be back in the House. And, or, you know, we don't, we don't know to already horse race this the way the media wants us to, I think is the wrong solution. We just need to listen to the leaders that inspire us and follow them. I mean, that's it. Point blank, period.

John Fugelsang (54:03)

We also have to try to not hate people on our own side quite so much. I mean, the thing that's plaguing the left and will always plague the left is this, I've said it before on your show, this conviction, this mentality, this belief, which I call you for only agreeing with me on 85% of issues. And you know, Bernie's fans and Hillary's fans are still fighting in their own way. And it's like every time you look disagree with people on your own side, debate, fight like a bunch of rabbis over the text.

Alison Gill (54:31)

Well, and this is what Russia does.

John Fugelsang (54:33)

When you hate each other, you give Donald Trump an erection. Divide and conquer is how they do all of this.

Alison Gill (54:37)

So, please, this is what Russia does. This is, it's in the Russia playbook. We go in, split the Democratic Party, split the parties on issues that, you know, are emotional issues. Blm, gun rights, abortion. Get the Democrats, get, well, get the, make them fight culture wars.

John Fugelsang (55:00)

Yes.

Alison Gill (55:01)

So that they don't see us laughing all the way to the bank.

John Fugelsang (55:03)

That's how it always works.

Alison Gill (55:04)

It's all written out right there.

John Fugelsang (55:06)

So rich people pay FOX people to make working people blame poor people 100%.

Alison Gill (55:12)

And also this Saturday, aside from the baby boy birthday parade that's happening and all of the no Kings protests, marches and rallies that are going to be happening around over 2,000 locations in the country. We also have a livestream of the Pope.

John Fugelsang (55:29)

Yes.

Alison Gill (55:31)

Something like tens of thousands of tickets purchased to go and watch this live stream in person. And I was immediately taken back to the 80s. I think it was 86, 87. Pope John Paul II was on tour. He came to Dodger Stadium and I remember and spoke to a crowd of 65, 000 or something. And I, and people are like, what the. And I'm like, I gotta, I have to explain. I don't know if I can explain how important the Pope is to Catholics, but it's like, you're gonna go see God?

John Fugelsang (56:05)

Oh, well, I mean, maybe, I mean maybe the president of God's biggest unauthorized fan club, but.

Alison Gill (56:10)

Yeah, right, but like he speaks directly for God. You know, it's, it's a, it's a big, it's a big damn deal.

John Fugelsang (56:15)

Some millions feel that way.

Alison Gill (56:17)

Yes, but they got a photo of him wearing a ball cap, wearing his White Sox hat. I think, I think the, the people like this particular Pope. But before when we were talking offline, he's appointing someone here in Southern California to be bishop. Talk about that.

John Fugelsang (56:32)

Well, you know, it's interesting with this Pope, liberals are angry that he's not as liberal as Francis. Conservatives are angry because it turns out he's.

Alison Gill (56:39)

They're always angry.

John Fugelsang (56:40)

Yeah, they're always angry. But it turns out like the maga's angry because he's a conservative. He's not right wing, he's a conservative. And we're seeing how deep the fissures are in the party. You look at those Republican senators who are still conservatives going after Pete Hegseth this week over Ukraine. Well, look at all the MAGA Catholics and Christians who are despising this Pope. Not because he's a flaming liberal, because he's a conservative. And MAGA has moved so far to the extreme right that they're going to call conservatives a bunch of globalist cucks. But here's the best thing to think about, and this is for you, Dr. Gill in beautiful San Diego, because we know that the man the Pope has his first bishop appointment is Reverend Michael Pham, who is a Vietnamese refugee. His first bishop appointment is a refugee from Vietnam and in your diocese. And Bishop Designate Pham has put out a letter yesterday to fellow priests, deacons, ministry leaders of parishes about June 20, which is international Refugee Day. And Bishop designate Pham has invited all priests and faith leaders to stand in solidarity with migrants at the courthouse on June 20th. So that's really all you need to know about where this Pope comes down. And for your non believing listeners, this is useful because the majority of the people who are trying to drive these refugees out of our land are people who identify as Christians. Now I've said this before, which is just bonkers.

Alison Gill (58:13)

Bonkers because we know we, because we know what the Bible actually says.

John Fugelsang (58:17)

The God of the Hebrew scriptures, the God of the Hebrew scriptures relentlessly says that you have to treat the immigrant, the stranger, the alien, as you would treat one of your own, as you would treat yourself. God is unambiguous about this. Three different times.

Alison Gill (58:31)

Oh, he beat us over the head with it.

John Fugelsang (58:32)

He said you were strangers in Egypt. Three times he says you were strangers in Egypt. So he doesn't really mince around about this. And his son doesn't make things much easier for the haters either. Jesus says in Matthew 25 that how individuals and nations treat the stranger is how we treat him. And we're gonna be judged on whether we go to heaven or hell based on that criteria of how, not how much money you give the church, not how much you scream at women outside clinics. So when you're dealing with a Christian who's all into getting rid of these illegals, obviously the first thing to say is, can you find any time Fox News ever called a white lawbreaker illegal? But the main argument to make is, why should I agree with you and Donald Trump instead of God and Jesus, make them argue against God on this issue. Now, I'm not saying that we should have open borders and give amnesty. That was Ronald Reagan and no national president.

Alison Gill (59:27)

I'm saying that I don't even get why we just don't like, give everybody amnesty.

John Fugelsang (59:33)

That's how the indigenous people thought about it. Amnesty with a passage to work. Get these people paying it to Social Security already. They're already paying state taxes. They're paying, they're paying local taxes and they pay sales taxes. We take in over 4 billion with a B dollars a year in taxes from undocumented immigrants in this country.

Alison Gill (59:51)

More taxes than the wealthy.

John Fugelsang (59:53)

And of course the Democrats are just way too horrified to ever, ever, ever bring that fact up. But also remember, don't call them illegals. Okay? That plays into all of this. Please stop it. That's a slur that's only used on non white people. I carry around a hundred dollar bill that I will give to anyone who can show me a Fox newscast where someone calls a white lawbreaker an illegal. Call them Christian refugees. It's moral and it will infuriate the right to pay Christians.

Alison Gill (60:22)

That's interesting with Refugee day coming up on the 20.

John Fugelsang (60:25)

Make them argue against God, because that's who their argument is. God doesn't mince around. God will judge you by not welcoming these people. And again, we have to have standards. Just let people in. I'm Not Ronald Reagan. But. But my objection is to the criminalization of migrants. If you're standing on this soil, you are allowed to claim asylum. So these people's arguments are with the Bible and the Constitution.

Alison Gill (60:48)

Yeah, well, and. And being here. Undocumented is not a criminal offense. They keep saying that it's a misdemeanor. It's civil.

John Fugelsang (60:55)

How many misdemeanors can get your kids taken away in the rest of our legal code?

Alison Gill (60:59)

And that's why I've been urging our leaders kind of behind closed doors. I put out a video the other day, you know, where all of the media people asking questions of our leaders, like, what about this graffiti that you see? What about the. You know, And I'm like, all right, you know what? I'm not talking about misdemeanors today. I'm talking about felonies. The felonies that the President of the United States is committing. The high crimes, the impeachable offenses that he is committing.

John Fugelsang (61:22)

He's a filthy illegal.

Alison Gill (61:24)

The military against American citizens.

John Fugelsang (61:27)

Yes.

Alison Gill (61:27)

Against the Constitution. Let's focus on that instead of, you know, who's going to clean up the graffiti? And look, we can. If you want, we can talk about exactly who will be cleaning up the graffiti. Do you remember everybody who was cleaning up the Capitol after January 6th? Yeah, so.

John Fugelsang (61:42)

And by the way, also, let's remember. Holy crap, they have Mexican flags in Los Angeles. People own Mexican flags.

Alison Gill (61:49)

Oh, my God.

John Fugelsang (61:49)

Are you telling me people in Southern California own Mexican flags?

Alison Gill (61:53)

Have you. Dude, have you been to Chicago on St. Patrick's Day?

John Fugelsang (61:57)

It's not illegal to fly a Mexican flag. Just like it's not illegal to fly the racist, filth flag of a confederate enemy nation.

Alison Gill (62:04)

But have you seen the Morrissey flags, though, sir?

John Fugelsang (62:07)

Oh, well, come on. Morrissey. Yeah. Well, that's. That's Morrissey. I don't even know who the traitor is to that nation anymore, but.

Alison Gill (62:14)

Well, to. To fill everybody in, because Morrissey broke my heart. Big fans of Morrissey. Everyone with waving Mexican flags.

John Fugelsang (62:23)

Oh, yes.

Alison Gill (62:24)

Why? I don't know, but that's the way that it is. It's just bizarre to me. I live 20 minutes from the border. It's just bizarre to me that they were like, oh, they're flying Mexican flags.

John Fugelsang (62:32)

It's all performative. They're gonna play. They're gonna complain about the street names having Spanish names in California.

Alison Gill (62:38)

And we saw it when they were had a Ukraine, a Ukrainian flag on the. Well of the House floor or whatever. They flipped out about that. As well. It's like, what is your problem with other people's flags? I'm done with opf.

John Fugelsang (62:51)

Robert E. Lee killed more Americans than Adolf Hitler. Robert E. Lee killed more Americans than Joseph Stalin. Robert E. Lee killed more Americans than every terrorist attack in history combined. And they will proudly wave his plaque. It's not about law. It's not about America. It's not about Jesus. We know what it's about. It's about white people becoming a minority in 2045.

Alison Gill (63:13)

It's about racism and the great replacement.

John Fugelsang (63:15)

And they're terrified of it. And if they wanted to make it better for white people and have more white people, they'd make it cheaper to have children and raise them in this country.

Alison Gill (63:23)

They will vote against their own interests.

John Fugelsang (63:26)

We've seen always, it's the punching yourself in the face belt. And that's the one thing that unites them. They hate liberals, and Donald Trump legitimizes their hate and gives them a permission structure to hate. And they're stupid and they're going to fail. And there's no way they look good in the history books because Fox News doesn't care. What. I mean, history books don't care what Fox News is telling people now.

Alison Gill (63:47)

Yeah, follow the money. It's all about the money, always. That's. That's the root of all our problems.

John Fugelsang (63:52)

And follow the racial panic as well.

Alison Gill (63:54)

Right. Which is inflamed for the wealthy to continue to make money.

John Fugelsang (63:59)

Yeah.

Alison Gill (63:59)

It kind of all comes back to that. Citizens United, et cetera. I mean, we could, you and I could talk for hours, but.

John Fugelsang (64:04)

Yeah, but again, as you keep telling everyone, I mean, Donald Trump, he doesn't care about Los Angeles. He hates people who live in cities because people in cities are the people who have never bought into his bullshit. Right? People in cities. He couldn't fool people in cities. He tried his whole life. He tried to be popular in New York and la, and we weren't buying it. So first you manufacture the threat, then you militarize the response. Right? You invent this chaos. You march in the boots and then you wave the flags and you dare anyone to call this what it really is. So where are the don't tread on me douchebags now? Where are the gads and flag threatens now? Right? I mean, the only thing getting tread on now is the Constitution.

Alison Gill (64:44)

Don't read to me. Remember? Have you seen that one?

John Fugelsang (64:46)

Yes, I have. I have.

Alison Gill (64:49)

Oh, my friend, what are your plans for this weekend?

John Fugelsang (64:53)

I'm really looking forward to the protests. I'm Hoping to find some good ones to take my son to if I'm not. Collapse of exhaustion. I began recording my book on tape this week. Dr. Garfield.

Alison Gill (65:02)

Oh, excellent.

John Fugelsang (65:03)

Very draining. Yes. And just crazy. We just did a pre tape with Jonathan Price yesterday, which is great. So I just had a crazy work week and running around and performing. So I'm really hoping for the weekend to take my kid to another Trump protest, which we haven't done since the last time Trump was in office. And I took my kid to the Muslim ban protests when he wasn't but 4 or 5 years old. Took him to the Millions march, took him to mom's demand. He's been to so many great marches. And I'm really, you know, I'm trying to raise a white cisgender male to be pro feminist, LGBTQ positive, anti racism, pro democracy, sex positive and to recognize that we get to gather and petition the government for redress of grievances. It's in the Constitution. And we do it non violently because violence is what they want. And if you're violent, then they know how to deal with you.

Alison Gill (65:55)

Yeah. And everybody, because corporate media is going to be filming the single burning trash can. It's really up to us to get all the footage of the amazing peaceful protests and marches that we're seeing, some of your favorite signs and just flood the Internet with them.

John Fugelsang (66:09)

Yes. Thank you.

Alison Gill (66:10)

We need the world to see that we aren't okay with what's happening in our country. And it seems that. But the powers that be don't want the world to know that. They want us to feel isolated. So it's going to.

John Fugelsang (66:20)

Yeah. And by the way. And we have to be the ones to bring up the logic. Right. Like ICE is conducting these raids in cities like LA and Chicago where they have this huge opposition, but these huge agribusinesses like in Alabama, like in Kristi Noem, S.D. oh, not being those don't get touched or disturbed. I say it on your show all the time.

Alison Gill (66:39)

That's because nobody's gonna turn up to protest. And there's no pretext for invoking the Insurrection Act.

John Fugelsang (66:44)

No, no. That's because our economy depends on exploited labor of migrants. Our entire economy is propped up by these so called illegals. And as I always say on your show, if Republicans really cared about this issue, they pass a lawyer making it a felony with one year in jail for hiring anyone dying. They won't do it. They'll never go after the employers.

Alison Gill (67:04)

I will say, you know, you and I, you said that for so many years now. Why aren't we going after the business owners? Democrats won't talk about it, but it's starting to. It's starting to become a message. I'm seeing it more and more. Why? Why are you ignoring the people who own the businesses? Yeah, I think that now's the time for that message to get more traction.

John Fugelsang (67:24)

These violent, criminal, illegal aliens, well, they're picking them up at their jobs. If they're in their workplace, how are they takers looking for free stuff? These are human beings who are working back breaking jobs below minimum wage to feed their kids, you pro life succubi.

Alison Gill (67:38)

To feed our kids. To feed everybody's kids.

John Fugelsang (67:40)

They're trying to feed their own kids too. We had a woman just kidnapped in lower Manhattan and her daughter was left on the sidewalk. I posted the video on threads and you can hear her scream, me, Iha, Miha. And they didn't care. These people are not pro life. And finally, so remember, they're not going after the people picking the food. These people are working. They're not violent criminal gang members. And Donald Trump pardoned 169 terrorists who assaulted law enforcement officers. But he's calling on the National Guard now because people are throwing rocks at cars to round up illegal aliens. Why didn't Nancy Pelosi send the National Guard into LA days ago? Alison? I mean, the media is letting him get away with this level of stupid and they're firing guys like Terry Moran.

Alison Gill (68:24)

I know, I know. Well, I'm glad you're here and I'm glad that you.

John Fugelsang (68:28)

I'm glad you're here.

Alison Gill (68:29)

On Sirius XM progress channel, 127 weeknights at 9pm Eastern, 6 Pacific. I'm glad you did your show.

John Fugelsang (68:34)

I'm glad you do your show. Thank you.

Alison Gill (68:36)

And of course, the John Feeblesang show podcast. Thanks for getting the truth out there and I appreciate you. And we'll see you next week after these marches. I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. And that's the purpose, right? Community. To make sure we aren't isolated and to participate in our First Amendment. Right.

John Fugelsang (68:55)

And may it rain relentlessly on Washington D.C. for the $134 million birthday parade for Trump. May it not rain on the Pope's giant video screen and on all the protests around the country.

Alison Gill (69:08)

I'm lighting a candle for rain in dc.

John Fugelsang (69:10)

God could literally send a plague of locusts and frogs to that parade, right to Donald Trump's stand. And MAGA would ask why God isn't a better American.

Alison Gill (69:19)

Oh, well, they would probably blame Gavin Newsom. He turned on the giant locust faucet and freed all the locusts into my parade.

John Fugelsang (69:30)

And by the way, National Guard troops, remember your oath. You swore an allegiance to the Constitution. Not a man, not a network, and not a failed casino clown with a Mussolini kink.

Alison Gill (69:42)

Nice. Nice. All right, my friend, we will see you next week and I hope you have a great weekend.

John Fugelsang (69:46)

Thank you, Allison.

Alison Gill (69:47)

Everybody, stick around. We'll be right back with the good news, everybody. Welcome back. It's time for the good news, everyone. Then good news, everyone. Good news, good news. All right, new listeners, this is the good news portion of the show. This is where you send in your listener submitted good news. And it can be anything, anything small, anything huge, anything medium that's going on in your life. That is good news. We want to hear about it because we need to microdose hope to get through this together. We're a community and we're going to do this. But if it's the last thing we do, we're going to do this. And the good news really helps us out. So you can send out like a shout out to a loved one, a family member, a small business in your area, your small business. Tell us what you're making and creating. We have so many thousands and thousands of incredible entrepreneurs and makers and creators that listen to the daily beans. We want to hear about it. We love hearing about each other self Shout outs are great shout outs to government programs that have helped you or a loved one. And you know, it's not limited to democratic government programs. Although the only Republican government program I could think of that might have helped someone is emtala. But it doesn't have to be a federal program. It can be state, it can be municipal, it can be county level. Whatever it is that you want to send. You know, I like to talk about great VA healthcare that I've received. You can also send in your student debt forgiveness stories. If you've had a student loan forgiven in the last few years, we would love to hear about that and how it's changed your life. So send it all to us dailybeanspod.com and click on contact. All you gotta do to get your submission read on the airline is pay your POD pet tariff, which means attach a photo of your pet. If you'd like us to guess what breeds are in your shelter pet, let us know and then give us the answers and our producer puts them at the bottom so we can't see them. If you don't have a pet, you can send an adoptable pet in your area. We're very good at finding forever homes for adoptable pets in your area. If you don't have that, any animal photo off the Internet will do. Really? Bird watching photos, which can be an actual bird or you and your family and friends flipping the bird to Trump and Musk Properties. And of course, if you don't have any of that, you can always just send us baby pictures. You as a baby, awkward family photos, anything at all. Send it to us@dailybeanspot.com and click on contact. Oh my gosh. This first picture. This is from Anna Pronoun. She and her I just wanted to shout out a small woman owned business. Natterdoodle. Nattr. Natterdoodle in Columbus, Ohio. Natalie makes designs, ships, markets, her own fabulous earrings, stickers, art, etc. And she does lettering workshops. Oh, that's so cool. She recently had a customer who ordered a grab bag from her but wrote don't put anything gay in it. So Natalie politely canceled the order. I would have just filled it with all the gayest stuff ever and a bunch of glitter. The trolls have come for her in spades. So head over to her website or Insta to show her some love and Support. She's at natterdoodle.com for Pod Pet Tariff. I've included our two rescue doggos, Gunnison Black and Gus White. You're welcome to guess their breeds if you like. All right, Gunnison, which is a great name, looks like he's part German shepherd, maybe healer mix, maybe a little rotty. And Gus looks like a straight up lab, maybe some Kuvas or Pyrenees. I can't tell how big he is. Let's see what we got. 78 German Shepherd, Australian shepherd and then some weird things. Gus is a great Pyrenees lab.

Sarah Parker (73:25)

What?

Alison Gill (73:26)

I got a dog. 100%, right?

John Fugelsang (73:29)

Yeah.

Sarah Parker (73:30)

Allison.

Alison Gill (73:32)

Yeah. Coming again to guess the dogs.

Sarah Parker (73:35)

Yeah.

Alison Gill (73:36)

Okay. I'm super excited. I never get these right. Thank you. Thank you for that opportunity. I know there were only two breeds in there and it wasn't very hard, but still very proud. All right, next up from Stacy Pronoun. She and her my daughter and I got to spend the last couple of days in New York City for some much needed self care and a reboot. While there I had two goals. Visit the moma for a dose of cultural sacrament. Art is my religion and to do some bird watching. I live in Oregon and bird watching is fairly limited to the rando Cheeto dust baby fingers flag still on display. I am glad to report. Check. We went to moma. Check. Got the bird watching while my lovely daughter stood guard to protect me from rogue Trumpers that might take me down while gawking on fifth Avenue seeing what I was doing. Check. We got to pet several puppies, including a little pup named Pip while we were quaffing a cold beer in the crazy humidity. Now that's not pictured, but you have Van Gogh's Starry Night. That is one of my all time favorite paintings. Maybe that makes me top 40. I don't care. I absolutely love Van Gogh. I have since I was a kid. I liked him before. It was cool, man. No, he's always been awesome. But that is just an incredible painting to see live. Any of Van Gogh's work if you can see it in person, I highly recommend. And there's the bird watching photo at Trump Tower. Thank you for that. I have one of those in my bird watching collection as well. I appreciate that, Stacy. I'm so glad you got to spend some time with your daughter. Shout out to her, by the way. All right, next up, Natalie pronouns she and her hello. My good news is about the community. In my hometown of St. Louis, Missouri, they had a tornado on May 16 and a few neighborhoods saw extreme damage for the last three weeks. Recovery efforts have been spearheaded by volunteers Action St. Louis and the People's Response Hub are two groups that showed up day after day to distribute food, help people tarp their roofs, and provide a place to go for answers while the process to declare the tornado a federal disaster dragged on. I moved away at the start of May and it was very jarring to have this happen right after I left, but it is great to see my community stand strong together as I know they'll continue to do in the future. Natalie, thanks for this. For my pet tariff, I'm sharing a picture of my cat I am pet sitting named Sirin. She has twitchy cat syndrome and is prone to lashing out if anyone gets too close, but I have been loving her from a distance all week. P.S. i have some catching up to do on the podcast, so my apologies if this topic has already been sent for good news. No, Natalie, it hasn't. And don't let the concern that maybe this has already been sent in stop you from sending in your good news. I don't need that bystanders thing that happens, you know. Just send it to us. Next up, Leah oh my God. Birds Leah pronoun she they. Thank you ladies for keeping us in the loop. My little bit of Good news is that I just got to see a friend who I don't see very often. She's a licensed bird nest surveyor with the British Trust for Ornithology and today I went out surveying with her. That is the best ride along I have ever heard. It is illegal to disturb bird nests in the UK without a license, so getting to do this with her is a real privilege. I'm sharing this photo of some swallows. These guys are still too small to put rings on, but they grow so fast that they might be ready in a few days. And there is just a handful of tiny baby sparrows. Oh how cute. I can hear them. I can hear their little cheeps in my ears right now. Leah, that's fantastic. How cool. So glad you got to do that. Next from Anonymous Next week, June 16, 17, 18 and 19, the Transgender Representation Project, with support from the National Institute for Military justice, will be hosting training sessions for attorneys looking for ways to help trans service members facing separation. We're going to have a link to that info in the show notes. You can register by email. Thank you so much for this Anonymous. We will have that link in the show notes again. That is June 16th through the 19th and it is training sessions for attorneys who want to help trans service members facing separation. Brilliant. You guys are amazing. Next up, Jenny pronouns she and her hi beans I have a story to tell that falls under cute shit. Kids say. I work in a large retail store in bright red Florida. Long sigh. I have some customers who I wait on quite often and I've known some of their kiddos since they were in utero. One little girl in particular is quite precocious. We'll call her M. She was in the other day with her mom and looking into our glass jewelry case and said, look Mama. Those are so rad. Rad not being a typical part of the vernacular of most three and a half year olds. I said, M. Where did you learn the word rad? She replied, Ms. Alwason on the beans. That's me. I asked, do you listen to the beans with your mom? And she shook her head yes and then said, Ms. Allison says rad. And Ms. Dana says a lot, but sometimes they both say too, I wish Dana were here for this. Can we insert some Dana? Laughter oh my goodness, this is so good. I couldn't say a word after that. I simply asked her if she wanted some stickers and she said yes, thanked me and was into the next conversation about her soon to be little brother. I looked at her mom who I've Known for many years and said teach him young. I'm submitting for my tariff photos of our American foxhound, Gracie, because she's so cute. Our daughter's poodle, who we swear is asking for the manager because the barista put too much cream in her coffee. And the newest addition to my daughter's family, Bean. Someone was watching my son in law when they put this baby in their yard because they knew this kitty would find a forever home as soon as they laid eyes on him. We call him Mr. Bean. Okay. My new cat Jenny is named Mr. Bean as well. Mr. Bean, Teeny Beanie Beanie Baby. And my personal favorite, Lieutenant Beanson. Thanks for all you do to keep us informed and motivated to raise our collective voice and march forward to the midterms and on to 2028. Ms. Alison says rad. And Ms. Dana says, but sometimes they both say and shit too. Oh, this kitten is adorable. The poodle is adorable. I especially love the visor. This reminds me of my mother in her garden with that visor and the beagle puppy. So adorable. Ginny. Thank you. I needed that. Now, if you see M again, please tell her I said hello and that she's rad because I appreciate that so very much. Okay, everyone. Oh, and by the way, if you're Em's mom, send us a note. Say, hey, I'm the mom. Ma' am. Bam. Ma' am, send us a note. All right, everybody, thank you so much for listening. It's going to be a busy day tomorrow with the no Kings rally. I'll see you in San Diego. If you're coming to the San Diego no Kings rally, it's down at the county administration building on the waterfront. We'll be in front of the stairs facing the water. Right before we march, we'll have a blessing from the Kumiye because we're on their land. And then we'll. Then we'll march. And then afterwards, I'm hosting a little event for our patrons of the Daily Beans. We're going to have an event called no Kings, just Queens. It's drag queen bingo. And I look forward to seeing you all there if you're going. If you want to become a patron, it's like three bucks a month. Please do. 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