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Refried Beans | Crimes On Crimes (feat. Ali Velshi)| Sep 28, 2023
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In the Hot Notes: Judge Tanya Chutkan has denied Donald’s motion for her to recuse herself from his case; Jared Kushner pressured The Washington Post to fire its editor over Russia reporting; the FBI is investigating Senator Bob Menendez canoodling with Egyptian intelligence; Senator Tommy Tuberville has said that the military is not an equal opportunity employer; Congressman Goldman demands Justice Clarence Thomas recuse himself from an upcoming case involving the Koch Network; the DoJ has indicted a four-time Republican candidate for congress on 43 counts of campaign fraud; plus Allison and Dana deliver your Good News.
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MSW Media. Hey, everybody, it's Ag. And welcome to Refried Beans where we play an episode of the Daily Beans podcast from the same week either one, two or three years ago so we can see how far we've come. So please enjoy this episode from days gone by and note the date in the intro.
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Refried beans. I like refried beans. That's why I want to try fried beans, because maybe they're just as good and we're wasting time.
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Whispering.
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Daily beans. Daily beans. Daily beans. Daily Beans.
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Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Thursday, September 28, 2023. Today, Judge Tanya Chutkan has denied Donald Trump's motion for her to recuse herself from his case. Jared Kushner pressured the Washington Post to fire its editor on Over Russia reporting. The FBI is investigating Senator Bob Menendez and his canoodling with Egyptian intelligence. Senator Tommy Tuberville has said that the military is, quote, not an equal opportunity employer. Congressman Goldman demands Justice Clarence Thomas recuse himself from an upcoming case involving the Koch network. And the Department of Justice has indicted a four time Republican candidate for Congress on 43 counts of campaign fraud. I'm Alison Gill.
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And I'm Dana Goldberg.
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43 counts.
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I mean, that's a lot. And he's got what, four unsuccessful bids for Congress? Yeah, yeah.
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I wasn't going to say he was a Republican. I was going to let everybody guess, but it was right after the headline about Menendez, so I kind of had to put that in there. Also, later in the show, I get to chat with one of my favorite anchors, Ali Valchi from msnbc. He also hosts the Velshi Band Book Club podcast and he's got a new introduction out in a book of Donald Trump's indictments. And we also chat a little bit about media coverage. So that's a really interesting conversation. I look forward to everybody being able to hear that chat. There's no patron happy hour tomorrow. That'll be next Friday. I'm traveling to D.C. this weekend with vote vets to lobby against the government shutdown. So I'll be doing that this weekend on behalf of y', all because government.
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Thank you for your service, literally and figuratively.
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You're welcome. And I know you'll be out there raising money for the Human Rights Campaign. So doing our thing. Doing, doing our stuff. All right, couple quick hits. Judge Chutkan has issued a 20 page ruling denying Trump's motion for her to recuse herself from his case. I did a whole Twitter thread on the highlights and of course, Andy McCabe and I will go over it in detail on the next episode of Jack. It's a brilliant piece of legal writing. You should read it. And Congressman Daniel Goldman is leading the charge to pressure Justice Clarence Thomas to recuse himself from an upcoming SCOTUS case involving the Koch network after recent reporting from ProPublica that he attended Koch donor parties. I'm hoping to get the congressman on the Daily Beans next week to discuss that effort, so I look forward to speaking with him. All right, we have a lot of news to get to. Let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes. Federal prosecutors today unsealed a grand jury indictment that accuses a Torrance man who was a candidate for Los Angeles county congressional seat in four federal elections with misusing campaign funds, including funneling tens of thousands of dollars in campaign donations back to himself through his friends and his family. Omar Navarro, 34 years old, is charged in a 43 count grand jury indictment. He's currently in state custody on unrelated charges.
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Oh, boy.
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He's expected. He's expected to be turned over to the feds. Okay, this guy is a perennial Republican congressional candidate. He always runs against Maxine Waters and he always loses. As part of the case against Navarro, FBI agents today arrested Dora Akshari, 59, of Torrance, who is Navarro's mother, Zacharias Diamantitis Abel of Long beach, who is a friend of Navarro, both of whom are accused of conspiring with him to convert campaign donations to personal use. His mom. He got his mom arrested. Navarro unsuccessfully campaigned in the four most recent election cycles to represent South LA county in California's 43rd congressional district. Now, the indictment, returned on September 14 and unsealed today, alleges Navarro, from September 2017 through July 2020, illegally funneled campaign cash to himself. The indictment outlines a scheme in which Navarro allegedly made payments from his campaign to various individuals, including, including his mom and his friend, and then directed the transfer of the cash back to himself for personal use. Gosh, I wonder how the sleuths at the United States Attorney's office figured that one out. No, you know, when. When we follow the money, it's usually more complicated than that. Navarro.
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Yeah, it's not usually like a. Literally a trail of money on the ground, but. Yeah, right. This time. Yeah.
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He also allegedly used campaign funds to pay for personal expenses, including trips to Las Vegas and wine country, as well as two criminal defense attorneys. According to the indictment, Navarro later falsely reported these expenditures as campaign expenses to the fec. Oops. You can't do that now. Akshari And Abel, that's his mom and his friend concealed Navarro's misdirection of campaign funds by frequently cashing checks rather than depositing them into their personal bank accounts. If they deposited the check, they often withdrew the funds shortly thereafter to share with Navarro. In total, from December 2017 to June 2020, Abel and Ashgari allegedly received $49,260, $58,625, respectively, from Navarro's campaign. That's according to checks he wrote or caused to be written to them. According to the indictment, Ashgari also created a shell company to facilitate her receipt of these campaign payments and transfers back to Nefaro and his own shell company. Okay, so I guess they had some shell companies in there. They. It's a little more complicated.
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Yeah, Mom's got some skills.
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According to the indictment, from January 2018 through July 2020, Navarro deposited over $100,000 in cash into his personal bank accounts, even though he had no other source of income aside from the campaign funds. And he frequently made deposits. After Abel and Ashgari cashed campaign checks, Navarro also formed a sham charity called the United Latino foundation as another way to embezzle funds from his campaign for his personal use. All three defendants are charged with one count of conspiracy. Navarro has 13 counts of wire fraud and 26 counts of falsification of records and three counts of prohibited use of campaign funds. Ashgari is charged with six counts of wire fraud, and Abel has two counts of wire fraud. Now, Navarro faces up to 25 years in prison. So oops.
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Oops indeed. All right, this is from Gregory Gord at Bloomberg. US Senator Tommy Tuberville said he objected to efforts by a top military official to recruit and promote racial minorities in the armed forces, saying, and I quote, equal opportunity threatens military readiness. He said, let me tell you something. Our military is not an equal opportunity employer. That was from Tuberville. In his interview with Bloomberg Television, Balance of Power Tuesday went on to say, we're looking for the best of the best. To do whatever. To do.
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Just to do whatever.
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Whatever, Whatever. Whatever you're best at. Ag we're not looking for different groups, social justice groups. We don't want to single handedly destroy our military from within. He said, we all need to be one. It's like a football team I coached. You can't have different groups. Everybody's got to be together to win. There's no second place in war. Wow. That was the worst fucking quote I've almost ever read on this show about military readiness. Now, Tuberville, as we know, is the former head coach at Auburn University. He's been at the center of debates over the U.S. armed forces since placing a block on military promotions to protest Biden administration's abortion policies. He said he voted against Air Force General Charles Brown Jr's nomination as chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff last week because, and I quote, I think he has some woke policies. Brown's nomination passed, by the way, 83 to 11. So apparently a lot of people don't think that. And another quote from the story I heard some things he talked about, about race and things he wanted to mix into the military. This is from Tuberville. He said he specifically objected to Brown's call for more diversity in the ranks of Air Force pilots, only about 2%, by the way, of whom are black. My goodness.
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Now, you thought you read the worst quote ever. Wait till. Wait till you read this one.
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Oh, here we go. Here's Tuberville. He came out and said, we need certain groups, more pilots, certain groups to have an opportunity to be pilots. Listen, I want to be on merit. I want our military to be the best. I want it to be the best people. I don't care who they are. Men, women, doesn't make a difference. Apparently. They can't be trans, though I'm sure according to Tuberville, that's not part of the quote. Catholics, Protestants, he said, uh, don't give me this stuff about equal opportunity because that's not what this military is about.
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Wow, really?
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Yeah. The US military has an equal opportunity policy since 1948, when President Harry Truman signed an executive order desegregating the military and guaranteeing, and I quote, equality of treatment and opportunity for all persons in the armed services without regard to race, color, religion or national origin. And remember, that's the one from 1948. So that has changed a bit. Now, the order that 16 years before the passage of the Civil Rights act was a significant force in the desegregation of US Society as a whole. Representative Jim Clyburn, a South Carolina Democrat, immediately contemned Duvville's remarks, as he should have. And he said he is the worst of the worst. That's what he said in an interview with Bloomberg Television and closed with. The people of Alabama ought to be embarrassed about that. I agree, sir. I agree.
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There's no. There's no equal opportunity policy in the military.
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Yes, for the last 80 years. 85. 75 years. Okay, pal.
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Oh, what a racist piece of. All right, next up from NBC, the FBI is investigating whether Egypt's intelligence services might have been involved in the alleged bribery scheme described in the indictment of Senator Bob Menendez and his wife. That's according to sources familiar. The counterintelligence investigation is in addition to the federal corruption case that accuses Menendez of accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes. As chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Menendez helped oversee billions of dollars in US Aid to Egypt. He stepped down as chairman after he was indicted. Investigators want to know whether Egyptian intelligence officials or their associates tried to gain access to Menendez through his wife Nadine. According to the three count indictment unsealed last week, Menendez accepted lavish bribes to wield his political position for the benefit of the Egyptian government and to enrich a group of Egyptian American businessmen named as co defendants. The three New Jersey based businessmen named as co defendants who are accused of providing bribes from hundreds of thousands of dollars in gold bars to a Mercedes Benz convertible worth More than 60 grand are wail Hanna and Jose Uribe and Fred Dabes or Davis? I can't. I'm not sure how to pronounce his name. But Uribe and Davis are scheduled to be arraigned Wednesday along with Menendez and his wife. Hannah was arraigned Tuesday and pled not guilty in federal court in New York City. By the way, that arraignment did happen. Menendez did plead not guilty. Now, Hannah's lawyer, Larry Lustberg, denied that Hannah has ties to Egyptian intelligence. He says that Hannah and Nadine Menendez have been friends for years and that the friendship will be part of their defense against the bribery charges because, you know, they're not bribes if they're from friends. Clarence Thomas, each of the defendants is charged with conspiracy to commit bribery and conspiracy to commit honest services fraud. Menendez and his wife face an additional charge of conspiracy to commit extortion under color of official right. A lawyer for Nadine Menendez declined to comment when asked whether she might have been used by Egyptian intelligence officials. Menendez's Senate office did not respond to requests for comment. And Frank Feglusi, our friend, an NBC News security analyst, former assistant director for counterintelligence at the FBI, said Menendez's post atop the Foreign Relations Committee put him, quote, in a bullseye position for foreign intelligence services that are looking to have him make decisions in their favor, including military equipment and material decisions on funding. The question here is whether this all started chronologically with the senator's marriage, with the senator needing plausible deniability or an arm's length from any transactions that might have happened with intelligence operatives. And Fogluzzi closed out by saying all of that should be looked at from a counterintelligence perspective. And I agree.
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Thank you so much, ag. And this is from the Guardian. Donald Trump's son in law and senior White House advisor, unscented hand lotion. Jared Kushner trying to persuade the publisher of the Washington Post to fire its editor over coverage of Russia investigation. That editor, Marty Barron, he wrote that in a new book. Well, this is a quote from there. With no delay and without pause. During his four years as president, Barron writes, Trump and his team would go after the Post and everyone else in the media who didn't bend to his wishes. In December 2019, Kushner would lean on Fred Ryan to withdraw support for me and our Russia investigation and went on to say he aims to get me fired. I told Ryan. Now, Barron's book, Collision of Power, Trump, Bezos, and Washington Post will be published next Tuesday. The Guardian obtained a copy. Now the book arrives. Amid renewed attacks on the press by Trump. Last week, the former president turned Republican frontrunner promised action against Comcast, which is the owner of msnbc, and NBC DC for, and I quote, country threatening treason. Man, this guy projects all over the place. Now, the Post won a Pollard surprise, by the way, shared with New York Times for its coverage of the investigation of Russian election interference in 2016 and links between Trump and Moscow. A Pulitzer Prize, remember? Okay. Now, at the end of that investigation in spring of 2019, the special counsel, former FBI Director Robert Mueller, Bob Mueller, did not indict Trump or say he colluded with Russia, but Mueller did lay out extensive evidence of potential obstruction of justice by Trump and secure multiple indictments and convictions of Trump aides and allies.
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He also laid out, though I just kind of want to interject here because that's.
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I know you. I know you take. Yeah, I know you take point with this. Go for it.
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Did not indict Trump or say he colluded with Russia. He laid out hundreds of pages of collusion with Russia. So he did.
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Bill Barr is the one that stopped this.
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Yeah, that's a little bit of wonky reporting there. Sorry, go ahead, please continue.
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No, please. I love when the facts interject our stories. Now, Trump claimed exoneration, which Mueller did not offer, by the way, and called for prizes awarded for Russia reporting to be rescinded. Calls rejected by the Pulitzer board, by the way. Now, Kushner, Barron now writes, this is a quote, suggested the Post issue an apology and there be a reckoning of some Sort as he advised that he himself had made a huge mistake in one standing by a former editor of the New York observer and one of its stories when he owned the publication. Yep, standing by my editor at that time was my biggest regret in the 10 years I owned the newspaper. He wrote in the email to Ryan. Kushner's intent was clear to me. This is from the author. He said he aims to get me fired. I told Ryan now. The Post did not apologize. Barron was not fired. He retired in 2021 after a stellar career that included a Boston Globe investigation of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church that won a Pulitzer and, and became an Oscar winning movie, which was Spotlight, which deserved it. It was incredible. In which Baron was played by Liv Schreiber. I, I don't know why anyone would, I don't know why Jared Kushner would think that he's actually threatening to anyone, like walking into an office and be like, you need to fire this guy. I think he was probably laughed out of the building.
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Yeah, I think my thigh is wider than his shoulders. But, you know, whatever. Hey, you know what? We're not going to bag on anybody for their looks, but he is not a threatening figure. You know, although with that power position in the White House, you know that.
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There'S, there's reasons that that's true.
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Yeah, I don't want to cross. That's, that's all. That's sort of an intangible power.
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Well, he had weight to throw around, that's true. But he wasn't thrown on his weight, I'll tell you that right now.
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All right, everybody, stick around. We're going to be right back with one of my favorite people, Ali Velshi. Stay with us after these messages.
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We'll be right back.
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Hey, everybody, welcome back. I'm so excited. Today I get to speak to one of my favorite anchors ever. Please welcome host of Velshi on MSNBC weekends at 10am Eastern. He also hosts the Velshi Band Book Club podcast. And this week you can buy a copy of the book The Trump the 91 criminal counts against the Former President of the United States, for which he has written the introduction. Please welcome Ali Valshi. Hi.
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It is great to be with you. Thank you. And just to be clear, this book that's just released has not yet been banned by anybody, but I'm sure there are some people who hope it would be.
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Yeah.
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So we aren't going to be hearing about it yet on the Valshi Band Book Club podcast, which is very good. Well, how Much pornography is in there.
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It all depends. Because our. Apparently, according to Texas and Florida and a whole bunch of states, what we thought of as pornography, the whole definition has changed. So I'm not entirely sure. It's got boxes from Mar a Lago and mug shots, but that's about as good as it gets.
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We got some hush money payments. Right.
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Actually, you know what? You're right. So perhaps there's a tangential connection to pornography.
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There could be. There could be. Maybe if we did a graphic novel version of it, we could probably get it.
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That is an almost certain guarantee to get your book banned these days, for some weird reason, because it has the.
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Word graphic in it. I think.
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I truly think that's what it is. Because I don't think, you know, we. Years ago, when I was a kid, we didn't know that they were called graphic novels. I think they were cartoons. But now they're for a different audience. And I think that's it. Because I've interviewed, I think, maybe five or six authors of banned graphic novels, and they're all as perplexed as I am about the whole thing.
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Yeah.
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And if you're wondering, everyone listening, what we're talking about, recently the. The graphic novel of the diary, Van Frank, has been banned. And I truly believe it's because they think it's a graphic novel.
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Yeah. They fired a teacher in Texas for teaching it. And by the way, that's one banned and challenge book, Art Spiegelman's Mouse, which is about the Holocaust. I'm trying to think there's another one about the Holocaust that's been banned. Another one that was challenged was Commander Sulu George Takei's book called they Called Us Enemy. It's also a graphic novel set when he was five years old and lived in a Japanese internment camp in America.
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Yeah.
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All of them have been challenged. And so it's weird to me. It's like, do you guys just not know what these books are? Or. Unfortunately, as you well know, it's more than that. They do know what they're doing. The banners.
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Yeah. And what I think is fascinating, from your work on the ground in Ukraine. Right. To your banned book club podcast, these are things we are doing to push back against autocratic creep, which is what is outlined in this book that you have written, the introduction to, which is the indictments. And I think it's so important that everybody just read the indictments. Talk about why you wanted to write the introduction for this piece.
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Well, there are two things that got me here. The first is I'm like that. I am that guy who reads dense stuff. It might be because I'm a little dense. So it helps me understand it to actually read it. And so the habit I got into, we just literally fell into it here at msnbc, is when these indictments would come out. And because they're long and they're meaty, I read them as a podcast and we were quite surprised at the response that we got from people who maybe don't have the time or would like to hear it in my dulcet tone. So I read all four indictments and then we decided why not publish them in one book. It's quite small, actually, so you can keep it with you and keep it wherever you happen to consume your news because you're going to need to make references to it a lot. And they are very, very well written. But it is, this is sort of where we are. We're at this precipice as it relates to democracy. This isn't. I wouldn't normally cause regular people to read an indictment. I would think that's boring and one shouldn't do it. But in fact, I think at this point we, we have to.
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Yeah, and I think it's so important because, you know, my copy has post it notes all over it, just like my copy of the Mueller report has post it notes and references all over it. And one of the reasons I started the, the Mueller She Wrote podcast and did a 20 part miniseries on the actual report was because I think it's so important that we break these things down into digestible pieces that people want to listen to. Because, I mean, let's face it, the Mueller report, it was a snoozer. Okay, it was kind of dry, but there was so much important, crucial, so much important information in there that people need to hear. And that is why I respect the work that you do so much and why I think, you know, I've read through this introduction of yours to these indictments, why I think that sort of roadmap is so important for people to put their eyes on.
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Yeah, and it's, you know, you mentioned the Mueller report, the January 6th report. Like I said, we're not all lawyers. We're not all going to be lawyers. Most people like me get their law education through, you know, Law and Order or things like that. But these things are actually important in terms of decision making. And because they are, it's not normal to read them. What you end up with is a lot of people who, for better or for worse, rely on Analysis from people who are on cable news or on radio shows. And that's okay, that's okay. But we are now at a point where it would be best if you, to the extent possible, put your eyes on the words themselves, understood what they say. One really interesting thing to me, for instance, is In Jack Smith's January 6 indictment, on the very second page of the whole thing, he articulates the fact that Donald Trump had every right to deny the outcome of the election. He had every right to lie about it if he believed he had lost the election, and he had obviously every right to seek redress, meaning recounts, audits, court cases. So when Donald Trump says, my First Amendment rights are being plundered and all this. No, actually they're recognized on page two. He has a right to do this. He had a right to do it. What he didn't have a right to do is attempt to actually overturn an election. And count four in that one, which is the one that stands out to me the most, it's one page, it's very short, there's no description. And it says, this was an effort to take away the right that people had to vote and the right to have their vote counted. That's what this is all about. And whether it's the hush money payments, it's all an interference with democracy. And once you start, you know, democracy is one of those things, once you give a finger, you lose your whole hand. You can't just say, these infringements upon democracy are okay. Zero infringements on democracy are okay. And until we are all free to vote and to have our votes counted, none of us are right. If you don't count all the votes, then you might as well not count any of the votes. That's how it works in a lot of other countries. They count some of the votes, the ones they like.
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Yeah. And this is so important to not just the preservation of the free press.
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Right.
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But the preservation of democracy itself, as you say, small D democracy.
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Because those.
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Let's talk about the media ecosystem. Because those who would spread disinformation about these indictments, those who would say, oh, they're taking away his First Amendment rights. They're saying he can't say what he wants. When clearly Jack Smith addressed that in page two of the indictment. Those who would spread this disinformation are counting on people not reading page indictments. And so that, I think, is one of the main. Like, that's the crux of why it's so important that it's put out here. And why this introduction that you've penned, which is wonderful, I really recommend everybody you can get this, wherever your books are sold, is so critical to the media. Comment a little bit because you are a member of the media. I'm a member of the media, but I think feel like a different kind of the media. But talk a little bit about where you see the media going in terms of coverage of this completely unconventional party, completely unconventional president. Because as Christiane Amanpour says, we need to be truthful, not neutral. And I think that that is what your goal is.
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Yes, that's exactly right. We're not neutral on democracy in the same way we're not neutral on homicides and hurricanes. Right. We don't, when I cover hurricanes and I'm out there a lot in hurricanes, I'm not pretending like this is fun and we're all going to have a good time. People are going to die. They're going to be, you know, people's homes are going to be damaged in a homicide. We're not, there's not a both sides issue. There is a trial and that we should be cognizant of that. Donald Trump is entitled to a fair trial and we should all be very interested that he gets one. We should hope he gets one. What we don't want to do is take shortcuts and do this like non democratic countries do. But there are at the moment there are binary choices that Americans are faced with. I wish that were not so. I wish there could be good faith debates about what minimum wage should be and whether universal health care should be a thing. I believe it should, but someone may not. And I'd love to have a good faith debate. That's not what's happening. It's not even what's happening with the Republican Party. Even so called moderates whom I interview a great deal, they're very disappointed. They're very worried about their party because in many cases at the state level in Arizona, in Michigan and in Pennsylvania and Georgia, the party apparatus itself has just decided to be on the wrong side of democracy. And everybody following Donald Trump and the people running against him in some cases like Vivek Ramaswamy and others, they're all being sucked into this thing and it's very dangerous. You cannot walk back from that easily. Across the world we've got these Ukrainians who are dying to preserve their hard fought democracy. They don't want to lose it. And we don't have to worry about tanks coming in and missiles coming in. But we have something else. We've Got a disease that's growing from the inside, and it's on all of us to actually stop that. And it's on us in the media. I don't know how to use that. We're talking about a disease. What are we in that operation? The media is the bright lights in the operating room so that the surgeon can see what they're doing. The voter's. The surgeon. The voter's. The one who's going to have to make the decision. But we're going to hope that you make sure you can see everything that's going on.
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On.
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And shining that light means shining that light on the disease if you have to, not pretending all things are equal.
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Yeah. No. And that's one of the things that I love about the way that you do the work that you do, whether it's this introduction, the podcast, your show on MSNBC is because you are pro calm reason and analysis and curating the news and contextualizing the news. Because, you know, so many people want to say, you know, we need justice for Donald Trump, for example, with these 91 indictments. But their image of justice is like they tackle them, shout, tackle him, put him in an orange jumpsuit and throw him in jail when. When you justice you. But you also make the point like he is innocent until proven guilty. And whatever the outcome of the justice system doing with him what they will is that is facing justice. The fact that he is now in the justice system.
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Accountability. Now, that's right. There is accountability. Accountability doesn't mean always that you get the result you want.
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It usually means you don't.
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The Mueller report was a great example of that. Right? Right. So people find that frustrating. But there's a great example, and it was early in Nelson Mandela's presidency and there was a Supreme Court ruling that it was about somebody who had been a really bad guy in the apartheid regime, and this ruling went favorably for them. It was the Supreme Court. A crowd had gathered in Cape Town outside the Supreme Court, and finally Mandela came out himself. He was a president at the time, and he said, this is not the outcome many of us would have have liked, but this is our system of justice. And the justice system did work in this instance. Now, here's the problem. The problem is there are a lot of people in America who are actually questioning whether or not the justice system is fair and works the way it should. And there are a couple folks on the Supreme Court who are not helping with this. Right. They are not giving us the impression that justice is blind and fair. They are giving us the impression that justice is perhaps on the take sometimes and goes to the highest bidder. So that's a real problem. That because we have actual doubts in the way justice is administered in this country, there are going to be some people wherever you stand on Donald Trump who are going to be dissatisfied with the outcome of any of these trials, which is again, a really good reason to read the indictments yourself. So at least you know what's in it, what's shaky, what's solid, what's a slam dunk, what's a layup, what's not. And all of those things exist in these indictments. Some of them are complicated, some of them are obvious. Some of them might be obvious to those of us without a legal education. You're going to have to watch this closely.
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Agreed. And everybody get your copy. It's called the Trump indictments, the 91 criminal counts against the former president of the United States with the introduction by Ali Velshi. Make sure you watch him weekends, 10am on MSNBC. And please check out the Valshi Band Book Club. It's such a great podcast. But yeah, get this book. Put it on your shelf. It'll make you look sexy. I swear to God, people love people with books about justice. I do.
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I agree.
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No problem. And you can also listen to it, right. If you want to go for a walk outside, touch some grass like I like to do on a daily basis. Thank you so much for joining me today. Ali velshi, it's been a wonderful treat.
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Thank you for having me.
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Everybody. Stick around. We'll be right back with the good.
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News after these messages.
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We'll be right back.
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Everybody. Welcome back. It's time for the good news. Who likes good news?
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Everyone.
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Then good news, everyone.
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Good news, good news.
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And if you have any good news, corrections, confessions, you want to give a shout out to a loved one or a small business in your area or your small business or a shout out to yourself if you have a woobie story or a blanket story. I love those little blankie store. Like I still have a blankie. I love these stories so much, Dana. They, they like make my day.
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I know mine too.
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People who find their, their old stuffies and stuff. Also if you have any baby pictures or frog orgies, of course we pet pod pet tax. If you don't have pod pet tax, you can talk about an adoptable pet in your area. Anything at all. Send it to us@dailybeanspod.com and click on contact. First up from Marcy M. Quick correction Good try on that city in northern Wisconsin. I knew it was coming. However, Minocqua is pronounced Minocqua, and I just did it right. I was calling it Manoqua, but I just said Manocqua. Okay, all right. So I. I somehow figured it out in the last couple days.
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Corrected. You corrected yourself before the correction.
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Hmm. I'm attaching a picture of my beautiful dog Remy, who crossed the rainbow bridge last summer. Love her madly.
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I can imagine why. Marcy.
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Remy's beautiful, beautiful red Merle baby with the peanut butter. Lucky dog. I know.
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So cute. Oh, my God. This next dog. I know. This is from Sarah. R. No pronouns from Sarah. Hello again, friends. It's Pal's mom again, I hear. I forgot to tell you exactly what breed he is. And, well, we don't know. We think Frenchie and Pit mix with a mix of other things, so. You're right. Thank you for being a light in all the chaos. We need more voices like yours. Here's another pick of Pal, because who doesn't need more cute animal pics in their day? This dog is definitely Pitbull Frenchie. I mean, look at the ears. The ears, right? Oh, my.
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I was like, what is happening? Yeah, I love this dog. Pal is great. Pal should have their own Instagram account. Next up, from Rachel Pronoun. She and her Hello, Liguma hotties of the Internet. Hey. Hey.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, right. Good news. I'm writing to you after my first day of grad school in what is arguably the best educational policy program in the country. As a loudmouth educator turned advocate, I'm always so inspired by the work you women do day after day to actually get shit done. Thank you, Rachel. A good friend once told me, you refuse to accept any less than better for the future. Love it. I'm proud to be entering a field where there is so much good work to be done and with so many brilliant, opinionated women here to do it. P.S. if MSW is looking to hire an intrepid young education correspondent in a year, I'll be the first in line. Thank you, Rachel.
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Nice. Very, very nice. All right, this one's from anonymous attorney pronoun. She and her. Hello, ladies and team. Donnie's noted about her retired Icelandic horse. Made me snort laugh. Have you seen the service you can get to have an Icelandic horse send your way from the office, Notifications, emails. It's called outhorse. Your email. I've not done it. I'm a lawyer, so. But just search it online and you'll see how glorious it is. Also that's my pet tax today. The link to a video of Icelandic horses writing emails. And we've got two links for you in the show notes. This is hysterical. Oh my God. Icelandic horses are absolutely beautiful, by the way.
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Yeah, we have.
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And if you've been to Iceland, there's a certain horse like you won't see a lot of giant horses because you're not allowed to. From what I understand, you're not allowed to bring horses into the country.
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Yeah, they're small and they've been there for like thousands of years or something. Yeah. And they're beautiful. Yeah.
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Huh. Yeah.
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A service you can get to have an Icelandic horse. Send your away from the office notifications.
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That's so great.
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So you can have an Icelandic horse. Have your do your out of office alerts. That's great. I love this so much. And we'll link in the show notes like Dana said. All right, next up from Anonymous, she and her fellow birder here. I started my journey in my early 40s when my son and I volunteered at a local state park. I feel like it's learning a new language and always fun when you travel to a new part of the country or the world. May I suggest a new category called wtf for what? The fowl. To get us started, I present my favorite bird. I love them because they're masters at camouflage and can be difficult to spot if you don't know what you're looking for. They like to stretch their necks up and sway with the reeds. They also make great a great galump sound if you're lucky enough to hear them. Hopefully you can spot it in the picture. It's called an American bittern. Oh, there he is. Hi, buddy.
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Yeah, that is good. It does camouflage well. Yep.
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I liked when I was staying in Maine for the Maine Comedy Festival. We were staying at a lake house and the loons were so cool to hear at night. My favorite bird is the secretary bird. I love that guy. It's such a weird looking bird. Looks like a dinosaur and he's got these little funky things that come up out of his head like ram wrongs. I love secretary birds.
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Oh my God. There's so many different birds out there. I saw a video of a giant stork where I was like, that is a human in a costume. And it wasn't. It was a big giant bird. All right, moving on. There's no end to that story. Just so I have no transition. This is from Keith pronouncing him. You not only give us the News with fucking swearing. But your pop culture references make me laugh so hard, I snort. My wife and I both turned 50. She In December, me in April. Same week as Dana's birthday. My little Aries brother. We met in the 90s and have now been married 22 years and are proud parents of a 21 and a 19 year old Eagle Scouts. I currently work with a lot of 20 somethings in tech and they never get my references. Like if something has jumped the shark or when I bust out a what you talk about, Willis. So I instead torture them with the corny jokes, like what kind of apples grow on trees? All of them. And talk about how much I loved my Atari 2600.
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Keith, I have. I have a great joke for you to. To torture your children with. What. What is. What is red and smells like blue paint?
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It's.
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It's red paint.
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Oh, well done. It's so dumb.
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I love it.
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I love good dad jokes. Oh, this is my. Okay, this is my favorite stock joke. That and I'll get back to the submission. But this. This turtle got jumped by three snails. And when the. The cops asked him what happened, he said, I don't know. It all happened so fast. And it's my favorite joke of all time. All right, back to Keith. Dana, I want you to know that everyone in our house got T shirts from the HRC store last Christmas. I also proudly display both an HRC logo and a Love is love sticker on my work laptop so my coworkers know I am an ally. Keith, you're fucking awesome, ag. I know you want frog orgies, but would you settle for turtle porn? I took this picture at Van Son park zoo in Paramus, New Jersey about 20 years ago. Some little girl nearby loudly proclaimed, they're playing leapfrog. Which made my every adult laugh out loud. And if you took this picture 20 years ago, Keith, they're probably almost done having sex.
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It all happened so fast.
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It all happened so fast.
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Keith, I don't know if you know this or not, but when I was a kid at the Cleveland Zoo, I saw two turtles doing this. And I said, oh, they're loving each other when I was like three. So that's really weird that we have a picture like this as well. And every time anybody mentions Paramus, Dana, I think of Ghostbusters when he's on his television show, Bill Murray, and he's talking to the lady and she's like, I was abducted by aliens. They. They had a spaceship set up to look like a room at the holiday Inn in Paramus. Yeah, they told me that the end of the world is February 14th, and he's like, Valentine's Day. Bummer. It's just more pop culture references. For those of us about to turn 50.
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As smart as you are and as much as you actually do every single day, it blows my mind how many pop references you still keep in that noggin of yours.
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I can't.
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Not that. Not that. Unintelligent people. No pop references. I'm just saying, like, there's only so much room in someone's brain for information. But you seem to have a lot in every aspect.
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Yeah. I don't have a photographic memory, but I have an. What I call an audio graphic memory. If I hear it, especially songs or poems, if it's got a rhythm or a melody, it's in my head forever. It's just in my head forever. That's why I was able to memorize Mitch Hedberg routines. I would do Mitch Hedberg tribute comedy shows. Right. Like, because he's so, like, sing songy, you know?
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Yeah, he has a cadence for sure.
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Yeah. So I've just. I just. I don't know. I've always been able to memorize stuff like that. It's weird. All right, next up from Anonymous Pronoun. She and her. Hello, beans. Queens of the beans. Just wanted to share a story from last week. A couple teachers I used to work with asked me to help chaperone a group of high school freshmen to a ropes course in the Foothills. We're in Colorado. I agreed, and it was a great time. But earlier in the day, most of the students had sat down for lunch when suddenly I hear a student shout out, is that a fucking moose? It was, in fact, a fucking moose, which is both cool and absolutely terrifying. You do not fuck around with the moose. This one decided to hang out for a while, so we eventually had to move back to the cars so the park's people could try to move him along from their truck. We ended up having a great rest of the day and an awesome story to share. Included a couple pics of the fucking moose. Thanks for all you do to keep us informed. Hey, moose.
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Anonymous. This is a fantastic submission. And that is a big fucking moose, by the way.
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Is that a fucking moose? Yes, indeed it is. Oh, my God.
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This guy just. This guy's sitting at the picnic table.
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Yeah, that moose is like 20ft away from him.
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Jesus.
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I love ropes courses. We used to do that. I used to be a Girl Scout camp counselor. Of course you did ropes course and rappelling. So fun. Like, really good for, like, trust stuff.
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Yeah, we used to do that. Yep. We used to do that soccer camp. We go ropes courses when we had our soccer camp.
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Yep.
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Yep. All right, cool. Thank you so much, everybody. We got a picture of a moose today. That's fantastic. Thank you, everybody, for sending in your submissions. I love all of these photos. We got a couple of links in the show, notes for you to check out. So you want to have an Icelandic horse. Give your out of office notifications for your email. All sorts of great stuff. Whatever you want to send into us, please do so@dailybeanspod.com and click on contact. We'll be back in your ears tomorrow. Do you have any final thoughts before we get out of here, Dana?
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No final thoughts for today, but we'll see you tomorrow. Hear you tomorrow. You'll hear us tomorrow. Whatever we do.
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All right, everybody, stick around. No, don't stick around.
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Go away.
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It's the end of the show.
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Please leave that in there. So famous feelers day off. What are you guys still doing here? The show's over.
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Go home.
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Hang up your phone. It's over. What do you get? Why are you here? Stick around. What am I doing?
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Everybody, please take care of yourselves. Take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health. Vote blue over Q and take everyone.
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You know with you right now.
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Go.
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Stick around. I've been AG and I've been dg and them's the beans.
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Refried beans. I like refried beans.