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Refried Beans | Fit For History (feat. Adam Klasfeld) | June 13, 2022
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June 13,2022 Hot Notes: a Daily Beans exclusive about Enrique Tarrio’s phones; the 1/6 Committee releases the witness list for this morning’s hearing; more emails from Ginni Thomas to Arizona lawmakers are released; Rudy Giuliani is hit with ethics charges in DC over election fraud claims; 31 white supremacists have been arrested in Idaho and charged with planning a riot at a Pride event; a bipartisan group of senators reach a deal on gun legislation; plus Allison delivers your Good News. Adam Klasfeld
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Alison Gill
MSW Media. Hey, everybody, it's Ag. And welcome to Refried Beans, where we play an episode of the Daily Beans podcast from the same week either one, two or three years ago so we can see how far we've come. So please enjoy this episode from days gone by and note the date in the intro. Refried beans. I like refried beans.
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Adam Klassfeld
That's why I want to try fried.
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Alison Gill
Beans, because maybe they're just as good.
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Adam Klassfeld
And we're wasting time. Jelly beans.
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Alison Gill
Jelly beans. Jelly beans.
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Adam Klassfeld
Daily Beans.
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Alison Gill
Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Monday, June 13, 2022. Today, a Daily Beans exclusive about Enrique Tarrio's phones. The January 6th committee releases the witness list for this morning's hearing. More emails from Jenny Thomas to Arizona lawmakers are released. Rudy Giuliani is hit with ethics charges in D.C. over election fraud claims. 31 white supremacists have been arrested in Idaho and charged with planning a riot at a Pride event. And a bipartisan group of senators reaches a preliminary deal on a framework for gun legislation. I'm your host, Alison Gill. I know, I know, I know. Dana is not back yet. She had to last minute change a bunch of travel plans. So she's going to be back with us Tuesday morning. And she sends her apologies and her love and I look forward to seeing her. I miss her. So you're stuck with me today. I'm going to bring you all of this news. And then later in the show, I'm going to be talking with Adam Klassfeld from Law and Crime, host of the Objections podcast on why Scott Perry might have sought a pardon from the White House, as revealed in Thursday's hearing that we, you know, we all watched. I know we all watched it. So I have a lot of news to get to today. A lot of stuff has happened over the weekend. So let's do it. Let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes. All right. We're starting off with the January 6th Committee. They kicked off their series of six hearings this month last Thursday, June 9th at 8:00pm Eastern. And it was welcomed by over 20 million viewers. That's just on television. Those are huge ratings, by the way. That is normally like what a Sunday Night Football game would get. That's big. Most congressional hearings get less than a million, and that doesn't account for streaming numbers. I watched the hearings with five other people. It doesn't account for group watching situations. We were up at Kathy Griffin's that night. Thanks so much. Shout out to Kathy for being so hospitable and inviting us up there to watch in her screening room. It was really, truly an historic event. And then I jumped on the Mary Trump show to discuss that. And if you caught that coverage, you would have heard me say the hearing was fit for history and that I was surprised by how well the committee presented their facts. The second hearing takes place at 10:00am Eastern Time today and could be even more explosive than the first. I'll get into that in a minute. But I wanted to go over some of the standout moments for me in the Thursday hearing, you know, as arose from some of the discussions I had with Mary Trump and her group of folks and then, of course, the people I was watching with at Kathy's. And first of all, one of the lines that stood out to me early on came from the chair, Bennie Thompson, his opening comments when he said, quote, January 6th was the culmination of an attempted coup. And it took my breath away a little bit that the committee has decided to use the correct language. Right. So many times they fall back on political soft language like attack on the Capitol or riot. He said, make no mistake, January 6th was a culmination of an attempted coup. So important to meet the moment by calling it a coup and not using that softer language. So that was very impressive. Same with Liz Cheney talking about lies. When Donald Trump said he had called out the National Guard. But Nancy Pelosi, you know, put the kibosh on it, quashed it, and Liz Cheney called that a lie. She didn't say he misled us or any kind of New York Times language like that. I think the taped deposition of Bill Barr was very important. It stood out to me. We knew he said that, but to watch him say it was different. Now, we all know Bill Barr is a dickbag that did Trump's dirty work for years. But using his testimony against Donald, someone who was so up his butt, who is and will be Donald, by the way, who is and will be the central focus for these hearings, I think was incredibly effective. So the committee showed Barr testifying. He told Trump there was no voter fraud, no widespread voter fraud, and that his claims about it were bullshit. Use the word bullshit. Then there was a tape testimony of Mark Milley. He's chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. That stood out to me, too, was a little bit chilling. And it goes back to that thing I was talking about where how Cheney said Trump lied about calling the National Guard. Milley testified the only calls he got from about that were from Mike Pence, and they were persistent and urgent. The only call he got from the White House on Donald's side was from Mark Meadows, who was worried about the political spin. It's very telling. And at one point, in one of the most potentially damaging moments of the videotaped interviews, Donald's son in law, Kushner, is shown dismissing the threats of Pat Cipollone. The White House counsel to resign dismissed them as whining bunch of lawyers whining. I was busy trying to, you know, get pardons set up, corrupt pardons for criminals and. But, you know, Pat Cipollone's there, just whining, just whining. He would always threaten, just whining. And to me, showing that clip, that was for an audience of one, and that audience was Pat Cipollone, who has said he would be willing to testify as to Donald's attempt to oust Acting Attorney General Rosen and replace him with Jeffrey Clark. But that was it. That's all. He was going to testify to Jeffrey Clark, by the way. The committee made sure to refer to him as an environmental lawyer, which I thought was a nice dig. But if the committee could get testimony from Cipollone on other things Trump did and said or didn't do that day, he was there, that would be important also. I mean, his, his testimony about the Rosen stuff is important, but that would be really important. And I think the committee was baiting him with that Jared clip. We'll see what happens. Then there was a part where Liz Cheney said in her opening statement that while Donald was watching the violence and heard about the chance of hang Mike Pence, he said, maybe our supporters have the right idea and that Mike Pence deserved it or deserves it. That was. We knew about that, but just to hear them say it in that setting was pretty shocking. And of course, there was the harrowing testimony of Capitol Police officer Caroline Edwards, absolute hero. One of the first officers or the first officer injured in the line of duty. She suffered traumatic brain injury, concussion. She had that bike rack pushed up on her, fell backwards, hit her chin on the railing, and then clipped her head on the concrete stairs. Another thing I didn't know was the number of proud boys headed to the Capitol before Donald even finished his speech. And that number was 250 to 300, far more than I'd previously thought. It just shows the coordination. Another big moment was when Cheney said Rep. Scott Perry had called the White House to ask for a pardon for his participation, which Scott has called a soulless lie. But the committee would not have made that accusation if they did not have the ironclad proof. I'LL be speaking with Adam Klasveld later in the show about why Perry wanted and needed that pardon. One of the most surprising things to me, though, the committee says it has proof that the violence at the Capitol is connected to the White House. And I'm very much looking forward to the committee making that connection. All in all, a really powerful presentation with new video footage that we hadn't seen before, including that really stunning overlay of a Trump speech where he said that there was nothing but love pouring out of these people. Look at how peaceful and wonderful people as we're watching the violence in front of us. And I think that really resonated with people, whether they're steeped in the details or not. Right. Whether they're wonks like me and you or whether they're, you know, just average Americans who've never heard of, you know, a lot of these folks. So the second hearing airs today, 10am Eastern. It's set to include testimony from Bill Stepien, that's former Trump campaign manager, who assisted with the plot to pressure Pence to throw out electors or delay the count. He seems to be very cooperative. That's very interesting. And he also is the guy who replaced Brad Parscale. Remember when Brad Parscale was tackled holding a beer outside of his house by the cops? Yeah. He replaced that fine person. Then we will also have Chris Stirewald, that's a FOX News guy who called the Arizona race for Biden earlier than at first and than any other networks did and was unceremoniously fired for it by Fox. Fired him. Benjamin Ginsburg, Ben Ginsburg, conservative election attorney. And his testimony is going to be extremely important to prove intent. You're going to want to watch that closely. Then there's BJ Pack. He's a former U.S. attorney from Georgia who resigned shortly after that call to Raffensperger went public. And it was before the attack on the Capitol. I think it was January 4th. I've been waiting for answers on his resignation since it happened. So I'm very much looking forward to the BJ Pack's testimony. And Al Schmidt, former city commissioner for Philadelphia. I'll be live tweeting some of the hearing, so I'm sure we'll all be tuned in for that. Now, next up, I have a little Daily Beans exclusive. According to sources, Enrique Tarrio actually used photographer and girlfriend Amy Harris's phone that night in the parking garage when Tarrio was meeting with Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes and others. And then afterwards, at about 8:30pm Tarrio bought a new phone after returning to Baltimore, presumably the one he used to communicate with the MoSD, the Ministry of Self Defense chat group on January 6. His phone had been confiscated by law enforcement on the 4th. So we were all sort of wondering on Twitter, like, what the fuck phone was he using? He ended up having a text exchange on the night of 16 with person one, who we now know as Proud Boy Bertino, who we saw in a video deposition, by the way, during the committee hearing last Thursday, leading me to believe Bertino is cooperating. He was raided the same day Tarrio was arrested, along with another proud boy in Pennsylvania named Stewart. His last name is Stewart. I think he's cooperating with the doj, and perhaps that's where they got the signal chat for the group called the mosd. Now, this reporting about Amy Harris that I have shows that she was more involved than previously known. She had sued to prevent the committee from getting her phone records, but I don't know whether the committee already has them. I'm sure we'll learn more in the weeks to come. In her lawsuit trying to prevent the committee from getting her phone records from Verizon, she says, yeah, I lost my phone that day and the chaos and the violence, and I picked it up at a hotel desk where it had been turned in by a proud boy. What a fucking lucky coincidence and something that likely won't come up in the hearings. Jenny Thomas emailed 27 more Arizona lawmakers than previously known. We knew about the two, now there's 27 more. And she did that to pressure them to put forth their own slate of fraudulent Trump electors. Thomas sent the messages using freeroutes, which is an online platform intended to make it easy to send pre written emails to multiple elected officials at once. New documents show Thomas indeed used that platform to reach many lawmakers all at once. On November 9, this was November 9, she sent identical emails to 20 members of the Arizona House and seven to Arizona State senators. That represents more than half of the Republican members of the state legislature at that time. The message, just days after media organizations called the race for Biden two days. Her messages urged lawmakers to, quote, stand strong in the face of political and media pressure. They claimed that the responsibility to choose electors was yours and yours alone. They had, quote, power to fight back against fraud and ensure that a clean slate of electors is chosen, she said in her email. Among the lawmakers, by the way, who received that email was then Rep. Anthony Kern, a Stop the Steal supporter who lost his reelection bid in November 2020 and then joined U.S. rep. Louie Gohmert and others as a plaintiff in a lawsuit against Pence that was a last ditch effort to overturn Biden's victory. Kern was photographed outside the Capitol during the riot on January 6, but is said he did not enter the building. That puts Ginnie on Team Sidney Powell. Just weeks before Sidney Powell was ousted from the crack and strike force by Jenna Ellis and Rudy Giuliani because Jenna and Rudy did not want to challenge the Electoral Count act in court for fear that the courts would rule that Pence couldn't throw out electors. That would sink the entire Eastman plot. And we learned about that from an email that has been described as falling under the crime fraud exception in Judge Carter's court ruling on the second batch of Eastman emails has to be handed over to the committee. But Powell forged ahead with Rep. Louie Gohmert and that Arizona fraudulent elector Kern to sue Pence in court. Now the case was thrown out on standing and the court never ruled on the merits of the Electoral Count act being unconstitutional or not. Speaking of Rudy, the attorney discipline arm of the DC Bar has brought a case against Rudy Giuliani for pushing unsubstantiated election fraud accusations in Pennsylvania federal court on behalf of Donald Trump after the 2020 election. The disciplinary office filing called a charge ethics charge further puts Giuliani's status as a lawyer in jeopardy. Giuliani had already been suspended from practicing law by the New York bar as that office also investigates his election fraud efforts on behalf of Trump in court. And in the new Filing from the D.C. bar, Giuliani is accused of violating Pennsylvania's rules of professional conduct. He did so, the filing said in that he, quote, brought a proceeding and asserted issues therein without a non frivolous basis in law and fact for doing so and quote, engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice. Cnn, who's reporting this story, reached out to Giuliani's attorney but did not receive a response to its inquiry about the ethics charges. And Andrew Torres and I are going to go over this in detail on this Wednesday's cleanup on aisle 45 podcast. That's right, he is back. Andrew is back. He's feeling better. All right, next up from the Washington Post, police In Idaho arrested 31 people who had face coverings, white supremacist insignia, shields and an operations plan to riot near an LGBTQ pride event on Saturday afternoon. Police say they were affiliated with Patriot Front, a white supremacist group whose founder was among those arrested. Bummer. Authorities received a tip about a Little army loading into a U Haul truck at a hotel Saturday afternoon. That's according to Lee White, the police chief in Coeur d' Alene, Idaho, a city of about 50,000 near the border with Washington. Local and state law enforcement pulled over the truck about 10 minutes later. Many of those arrested were wearing logos representing Patriot Front, which rebranded after one of its members plowed his car into a crowd of people protesting a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville in 2017, killing Heather Heyer and injuring dozens of that's them. The group's founder, Thomas Ryan Rousseau, or Rousseau, was among those arrested. Like the others, Rousseau was arrested on a charge of criminal conspiracy to riot, which is a misdemeanor. The arrestees were held on $300 bail. Some of the other men arrested also have been linked to the group in photos and video posted on social media. A group of men dressed in hats, sunglasses, Patriot Front signature khaki pants, of course, were seen kneeling on the ground with their hands zip tied behind their backs as police officers kept watch. An onlooker taunted the group, yelling, losers. White said the people were headed to City park, which was hosting a Pride in the park event advertised as a family friendly community event celebrating diversity and building a stronger, more unified community for all. Organizers did not immediately respond to telephone and email requests for comment from the Washington Post, who's written this story on Saturday evening, but they wrote in a post to the group's Facebook page that it was a successful event. The group, North Idaho Pride alliance, urged people to stay aware of your surroundings this afternoon and evening. In the city, authorities had been aware of online threats leading up to the weekend, according to White, so police had increased their presence in cities downtown. Two SWAT teams and officers from the city, county and state assisted in the arrests. The Panhandle Patriots, a local motorcycle club, had planned a Gundelane like Coeur d' Alene, but Gundelane event the same day as Pride in the park to, quote, go head to head with these people, an organizer said in April during an appearance with state Rep. Heather Scott, Republican. The organizer was not identified by name in a video, but wore a vest bearing the alias Mad Dog and the insignia of the Panhandle Patriots group. He lamented that the Pride gatherings would be, quote, allowed to parade through all of Coeur d' Alene, saying that a line must be drawn in the sand against such LGBTQ displays. Scott did not immediately respond to a quest for comment from the Washington Post late Saturday. In a news release posted on the group's website, the Panhandle Patriots, encouraged the community to take a stand against the LGBTQ agenda. It also suggested, without evidence that, quote, extremist groups were just trying to hijack the event to provoke violence, and said the group would change its event name to North Idaho Day of Prayer in response. Okay, so Mad Dog changed his gun delane to the North Idaho Day of Prayer event. Mm. Reached by phone late Saturday, a representative for the Panhandle Patriots declined to comment, telling the Post, we aren't answering questions right now. Yeah, I bet. White, the police chief, did not mention a connection between the Panhandle Patriots and events in the arrests, and he said those arrested had come from several states to riot downtown with riot gear, at least one smoke grenade, and documents similar to an operations plan that police or military group would put together for an event. He did not see firearms at the scene of the arrest, he said, but emphasis on the situation was, quote, very fresh. However, firearms were present in the vicinity of the park. Police had been in contact with the FBI all day, he said. White noted that the authorities understanding of the situation was still developing and said at the news conference that law enforcement had not yet interviewed those arrested. Representatives for Patriot Front were unable to be reached for comment. More charges are possible. They'll likely make their first court appearance sometime today. So that's very interesting. We don't know what weapons they had, where they were. We just know about a smoke grenade and shields. But they were first picked up on misdemeanor charges. And by the way, this came from a tip a citizen. Why we got to keep doing all the work. Finally, a bipartisan group of senators announced Sunday it had reached a tentative agreement on legislation that would pair modest new gun restrictions with significant new mental health and school security investments. A deal that could put Congress on a path to enacting the most significant national response in decades to acts of mass gun violence. 20 senators, 10 Dems, and 10 Republicans signed a statement announcing the framework of a deal. The move indicated that the agreement could have enough GOP support to defeat a filibuster, which is, as we know, the Senate super majority rule that has impeded previous gun legislation and pretty much anything else that would help Americans, quote, families are sacred. It's our duty to come together and get something done that will help restore their sense of safety and security in their communities. That's what a statement read, in part. Most importantly, it says our plan saves lives while also protecting the constitutional rights of law abiding Americans. Under the tentative deal, a federal grant program would encourage states to implement red flag laws that allow authorities to keep guns away from people found by a judge to represent a potential threat to themselves or others. While federal criminal background checks for gun buyers from 18 to 21 would include a mandatory search of juvenile justice and mental health records for the first time. So it's enhanced background check. It's not universal, though. Other provisions would prevent gun sales to domestic violence offenders other than spouses, closing what is called the boyfriend loophole to clarify which gun sellers are required to register as federal firearms dealers. That's something else it does. And thus run background checks on customers and establish new federal offenses related to gun trafficking. The agreement does not include a provision supported by Biden, congressional Democrats and a handful of Republicans and me that would raise the minimum age for the purchase of long guns from 18 to 21. Senator Chris Murphy, the lead Democratic negotiator, said in an interview Sunday that the compromise would have detractors on both the right and the left, but that it would ultimately make meaningful differences in combating gun violence. Quote, this is also the moment where we break the log jam. This is the important part, right? He says this is the moment where the 30 year impasse is broken. I think folks are really anxious about the state of violence in this country and I think they really want Washington to show it can deliver. Other provisions in the framework would funnel billions of new federal dollars into mental health care and school security programs, funding behavioral intervention programs, new campus infrastructure and armed officers. One cornerstone of the deal is legislation sponsored by Senators Roy Blunt and Debbie Stabenow to establish a nationwide network of community behavioral health clinics, though the framework does not yet include an agreed funding level for that program or some of the others. So no, this bill does not go far enough. But what it does do, as Chris Murphy said, is opens the door to more legislation down the road now that Republicans have conceded effectively that the Second Amendment is not absolute. They did this back in 2004. They're doing it again now. David Hogg, Shannon Watts, Fred Gutenberg, they're all optimistic. So so am I. This is how things go in a democracy. You do not get everything you want all at once. You can only get that in an autocracy. So this bill once again shows the world that democracy can work. Another very important message. All right. I'll be right back with Adam Klassfeld to discuss the bomb Liz Cheney dropped on the committee last week when she said Rep. Scott Perry called the White House seeking a pardon for his role in the attempted coup. Stay with us after these messages. We'll be right back, everybody. Welcome back. I'm happy to be joined today by my friend, host of the Objections podcast and writer for Law and Crime and editor at large, I believe. Please welcome Adam Klasveld.
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Adam Klassfeld
Hi. Thank you for having me.
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Alison Gill
I am so excited to talk to you because of a piece that I saw on Twitter that I immediately wanted to ask you about that you wrote. It says Rep. Scott Perry is the only GOP congressman named so far for allegedly seeking Trump's pardon. Here's why he might have wanted one. Can you tell us a little bit about. It's cuz he's totally innocent, right?
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Adam Klassfeld
Well, you know the natural question that arises after Liz Cheney announces as vice chair of the committee that Perry has requested a pardon from former President Trump. The natural question is why? And you know, in researching the article, there's the benefit of, hey, there's a public record about this. The January 6th committee has sent Representative Perry two letters and one of them is actually quite detailed. If anyone wants to check out the letter, it is embedded in the story. You can see for yourself the kind of evidence that the committee is looking at. And it basically goes into his alleged plot to install Trump loyalist lawyer Jeffrey Clark in the Department of Justice. Now, if you watched the first debut hearing of the January 6th committee, you know, and also if you haven't frankly been living under a rock, you also know because it's been widely reported that former Attorney General Bill Barr had resigned. And I'm going to take advantage of the tagline again, Alison Newswith, swearing before resigning, he called Trump's election fraud claims bullshit. And now we have the video evidence which emerged after that. Now, the plan after that and certain parts of Trump's circle was allegedly to install Jeffrey Clark as someone who is more amenable to Trump's conspiracy theories about the election. And that's what the committee's letter focuses on.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, we all remember that January 4th meeting with Engel, Donahue, Rosen, where they had said, because we reported on this extensively on the beans and the listeners know that they said, look, if you do this, we're all going to resign and you're going to be presiding. He's going to be in charge of a graveyard, I believe the words were. And yeah, and we know that Scott Perry had something to do with that. So where's this why would you need a pardon for helping try to install Jeffrey Clark?
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Adam Klassfeld
Right, Right. Well, so here is where I had reached out to a trustee source, Mitchell Eppner, former federal prosecutor, who LED intake on a section of federal fences at the District of New Jersey, told him to take a look at this letter, see if any potential areas of concern jump out at him. And he rattled off a number of statutes, he said, essentially. And he wasn't necessarily accusing the congressman of it, but he said if the congressman took those actions to a criminal defense attorney said, hey, where do I have exposure? And the defense attorney took a look at it. That defense attorney might see conspiracy to defraud the US Government of certain honest services. So there, there is that. There is the fact that the letter said that he was communicating with the. I believe it was Mark Meadows. I'll have to check the letter a little bit more closely, but certainly senior Trump officials via Signal. Now, any of us who use Signal, every journalist pretty much uses it for secure communications. And it has certain features like disappearing messages, which may be a problem if you have to comply with the Presidential Records act, that is storing communications, because these are records that have to be memorialized. So that could potentially be another area of concern.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. Because you don't. You run into a little bit of a problem where you say, no, no, no, these aren't presidential records. We have to turn over to the archives. But also using Signal, but, you know, also trying to say, no, these are legitimate deliberative processes that need to be privileged. Right. You can't have it both ways.
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Adam Klassfeld
Right, Right. So it's another thing that, of course, only a Representative Perry will know what was on his mind if he spoke to a lawyer, what that lawyer told him to be concerned about. But, and as a matter of fact, right now, his claim about this revelation by Congresswoman Cheney is that it's a quote, and this is from his press secretary, a ludicrous and soulless lie. So he denies it. It later came out from the Los Angeles Times that Liz Cheney says she has proof of it. So their chips are on the table. Will find out in the upcoming hearings what that proof is. But if this is what it is, that there are former federal prosecutors who identify multiple potential areas of concern. Another one that Mitch Eppner mentioned during our interview, and he said this one was a stretch, but perhaps he was concerned about seditious conspiracy, the same statute that was deployed against the proud boys and the Oath Keepers. This is basically what Eppner was saying, is that a defense attorney who was presented with the facts that the January 6 committee has been looking at might take a close look at that and see certain exposure and advise him to get a broad pardon and say, and request A pardon for actions taken from the election through the end of Trump's term. And of course, that is exactly what Vice Chair Cheney is alleging with the first hearing of the January 6th Committee's public hearings. And of course, we're going to hear more going forward.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And we also know Department of Justice, Office of Inspector General launched an investigation mid January was either the 15th or the 25th. They launched two investigations in the Department of Justice, the former Department of Justice, about their involvement in January 6th. And Merrick Garland testified under oath last October that whatever recommendations that Office of Inspector General made to him, he would follow. So there's also potential culpability there. And also, not to mention, besides seditious conspiracy, which is tough because you have to, you know, that's by force. But there's also obstructing an official proceeding, which Liz Cheney has cited on multiple occasions, that doesn't require force. It's seditious conspiracy without the force element is basically what it is.
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Adam Klassfeld
Absolutely. And that's why Eppner said that particular charge is a stretch. Now, he also said another one he might be concerned with is obstruction of justice. And this is a quote from him, depending upon what he actually did with regard to the attempt to replace the acting attorney general. So there are a lot of variables here, but it's essentially, there is a public record. What I wanted to highlight in this article is that essentially that the January 6 committee has looked at him before and has released the evidence that they have compiled in a pretty navigable, user friendly form, and that that's there as a window into their thinking. And that, you know, when Liz Cheney says in front of a, you know, tens of millions of people who, who tuned in for the first hearing that there was this search for a pardon, now's the time to dig up those old letters that are now a public record and get a window into their thinking. And I think that this will not be the last time, particularly now that we know that there are other GOP representatives that will be named. She hasn't named them yet. There have been certain reports about others who made may be or whose sources say are the GOP reps who wanted a pardon. But once their names are released, there's a broad record. They have been investigating for many months, as you know. And I think now's the time to really look at that record as the January 6 committee builds a case and puts all the different pieces that we've been seeing together.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, excellent. Amazing piece. I recommend everybody read it. And it's funny, you bring up obstruction of justice. I've been, it's been sort of dawning on me slowly, you know, Watergate, it wasn't the burglary, it was the COVID up. It was the obstruction of justice. The Mueller investigation, yes, there was an investigation into the Trump Russia contacts and collusion and conspiracy there. But the beef, the beefy charges could have come out of obstruction of justice. There was a whole other obstruction of justice investigation. I think we might be naive to think that there isn't an investigation into obstruction of justice of the investigation into January 6th as well. We just don't know about it because it's not a special counsel and he's not required to report it. In fact, he's keeping it very quiet. We'll see. But I appreciate your time today. Look forward to talking to you about future hearings when these names come out. What the proof Liz Cheney has is and she has it. She wouldn't say she had it if she didn't have it. I don't reckon so. Until then, I urge everyone to listen to the Objections podcast. Check out Law and Crime. Follow Adam Classfeld, Klassfeld reports on Twitter. Thank you so much for your time, my friend.
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Adam Klassfeld
Thank you for having me.
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Alison Gill
Everybody. Stick around. We'll be right back after these messages. We'll be right back. All right, everybody, welcome back. It's time for the good news.
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Adam Klassfeld
Who likes good news?
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Alison Gill
Everyone? Then good news, everyone. Good news. And if you have any good news, corrections, confessions, things. Hey, we should re up. How dumb is Louie Gohmert? I mean, he's about to get called out, called to the carpet for what he did with that, that suit against VP Pence. So send in that. I love those, you know, new swears that you have. I love that Halloween photos I take all year. Whatever you have for us, you can send it in by going to DailyBeansPod.com and clicking on contact. Little housekeeping issue. If you are among listeners who listen on Apple podcasts and you are not a patron or a supercaster. Again, if you listen on Apple and you're not a patron and you don't have a premium feed, go to Apple Co Beans, all lowercase, and follow that particular version of the Daily Beans. There's two out there right now. There's two versions out there. One of them is going to go away very soon. So you definitely want to make sure you're following the right one. All right. First up from Alison Pronoun. She and her I am watching the January 6 hearing on holy crap. I am surprisingly not surprised by much of what's being shared because I've been listening to you for years and you do such a great job of providing us information in a much more timely manner than our elected officials in mainstream media. This is my first time writing in and I'm so glad I found you. And Mueller, she wrote years ago. And then the daily beans. Here's a pet tax pic of one of our menagerie journey. We believe she's a boxer shepherd mix. Thanks for all you do. Yes, I concur. Looks like a Boston shepherd. What a beautiful baby. Oh. Ooh. That one with the sand. That's a really nice photo. That's like prize winning photo. Ah, in the fields. Look at all that space to run. How exciting for that doggo. All right, next up from Tamara Pronoun. She and her greetings from DeKalb county in Georgia. DeKalb. You're so close to getting that pronunciation right. It's DeKab, not DeKab. DeKab. I'm a 30 plus year resident of this lovely blue enclave and it was my great joy to be represented by John Lewis. We will be moving soon though as my husband nears retirement, we seek something a bit more pastoral. Oh, that'll be so beautiful. We recently purchased land on a lake covered in oak trees. That's my good news, by the way. We have affectionately named it Blue Oaks because we will be taking our blue votes to that reddish area of this state. Sadly, we will have to put up with some bad GOP representation for a while, but we hope that we'll still have Senator John Ossoff and Senator Raphael Warnock. The latter is up for reelection this November. As you know could use the time, talent or financial resources of anyone who wants to help. Please go to warnockforgeorgia.com Spell out the word for warnockforgeorgia.com to help. Thanks for all you do to break down the news in understandable segments and to promote good candidates. DeKalb County. DeKalb podpet tax my 14 year old cat, Trixie during the 2 months my husband was off work at the beginning of COVID he secretly taught her to sit for her food. Apparently you can teach an old cat new tricks. Read below if you want to guess. Look. Looks like a Russian blue or I had a cat with this exact coloring named Emma Sue. She was long haired though. This is a Torby, a cross between a Torti and a tabby. Oh, she's so pretty. Next up from Christina Pronoun. She and her hello longtime listener first time Submitter like so many of your listeners, I've been with you since the kitchen days. You have been a welcome soundtrack to many of my physical tasks like painting, gardening, and driving. A wee correction clarification in a recent episode with lb. But first, can I just say that I love how lb, Greg Oliar and the other democratically minded Twitter folks have come together in real life. Such fantastic insights and intellects. I'm so happy that today's tech makes such wonderful unplanned collaborations possible. I'll bet you never conceived of such adventures while working in the government. I know I didn't know. And you're right, I did not. Now, the correction in response to a good news story about Niagara Falls, LB mentioned a small town near Niagara Falls that is forever Christmas. Well, not exactly. She's talking about Niagara on the lake. It does have a shop in it called Just Christmas that sells Christmas holiday gear year round. I guess the war on Christmas hasn't moved north. I highly recommend traveling to Niagara on the lake. Or notl It's a famous theater town, home of the Shaw Festival, which stages plays by Shaw and his contemporaries. World class theater. Seriously, because it draws tourist traffic from all over North America and the world, it can support wonderful eclectic shops and eateries. I recommend the Apothecary Museum there, which is free to view and contains all kinds of real old timey pharmaceutical materials. So it's not all Christmas all the time. Except for that one shop, but far better. One of Southern Ontario's gems, Pet Rex the Floof and Rosie the Brain or the one in charge, both 12. Rosie is toothless, six pounds and an early stage renal failure, but still a fearsome hunter. Only indoor crinkle balls. Now, as we live on a busier street, Rex is two times Rosie's size and part rag doll. Aww. We think because he allows all manner of humiliating holds, whereas Rosie squeaks pathetically until she's released, though she sleeps on me at any opportunity. They are the sweetest, quietest, well behaved kitties I've known. Both rescues. Thank you for all you do. LB back whenever you can have her back. She's such a pistol like you all and her laugh brings me joy. Her laugh is so unique and wonderful. I have to agree. Look at these babies. Oh, it does look part rag doll. What a sweetie. Look at the little grumpy puss. So adorable. Thank you for that. And I'm gonna have to check out N o T o when I'm up there. All right, next up from Cheryl Pronoun she and her hello Beans Queens. I'm a longtime listener. I always appreciate your unique perspective on the news. I haven't felt the urge to write in the past, but with the addition of your digital frame sponsor, I have a story to share. Excellent. My father is a lifelong Republican and he particularly dislikes Hillary Clinton. We gave dad a digital photo frame that allowed you to send photos to an email address which would sync with the frame and display the photos. At the time of the 2016 election, there were hundreds of family photos on the frame that would each display for a few seconds. I started sending photos of Hillary Clinton to the frame. It drove my dad nuts trying to figure out who the stranger was, how the hell the photos were got on his frame, and who did it. We kept it going with a few deep states conspiracy theories before I finally confessed. My pet tax is Lucy, a wonderful dog kicked out of her home when she was 8 and the family decided they didn't want her anymore. I love her, spoil her, and appreciate the joy she has brought into my life. Oh, amazing. Thank you, Cheryl, for that. That is hilarious. I used to tell people when they go home to Thanksgiving to grab their conservative relatives phones and subscribe to the Daily Beans. Just a thought. All right, next up, from Gigi or Jean, pronouns he and him. Hi there, A.G. and D.G. i'm writing from North Carolina congressional district 11, home of Madison Cawthorn Q. Retching I wish Dana was here. She does it so much better than me. I know sometimes the country can seem like a hot mess, but it's not irredeemable. Which brings me to my good News. Yesterday, around 12:15pm Eastern Time, my wife became an American citizen. It's been a long and arduous process, but it's finally reached its conclusion. We are over the moon, cherry on top. She can vote now. You want pet tax, you got pet tax. I submit to you our cat Sammy and our flock of Senegal parrots, Lily, Addie, Punkin, and Chewy. As a bonus, I'll throw in a photo of my beloved Sheba, Percy. Alas, no longer with us, but eternal in my heart. Okay, let's see. Oh, that's a lovely pose from the cat, Sammy. By the way, thank you for the lewd. The parrots are adorable. There's Punkin. There's Percy. Aw, Percy. In the box fit sits so adorable. Lily wants to play word poems, magnet poetry, that stuff. So cute. There's Addie, Chewy. I love how you can tell them all apart. That's pretty amazing. And congratulations on the citizenship. That's fan fucking tastic. All right, finally from Rebecca. Pronouns she and they hello Leguminati. I am an English language teacher partnering with educators and tutors who are willing to volunteer to teach those fleeing Russia's war in Ukraine. Language skills will be vital to those who need to plant new roots in different countries or live comfortably while they wait out the conflict in a new place. I am looking for volunteers to teach English to all ages and I'm looking to recruit new students as well. If you're willing and able to volunteer a few hours a week teaching English or another subject, please email me sunflowersocietytutorsmail.com Again, that's sunflowersocietytutORSmail.com Many thanks to the whole Beans team for all the information and laughs over the years. Rebecca, what you're doing is truly, truly incredible. Thank you for that. All right, everyone, thank you so much for your submissions. I really appreciate it. And please keep sending them in. I'll be back tomorrow. In your ears. There is a new episode out yesterday for the MSW Book Club and Mueller, She Wrote, Muller, She Wrote's kind of off the hook this week, so you might want to check it out if you haven't yet. And of course, Wednesday I will be back with Andrew and we're going to go over all this Rudy Giuliani stuff and the Eastman stuff and probably some of the stuff that comes up in the hearings. I'm looking forward to talking to him about that as well. I missed my friend. So Wednesday I will be in Washington, D.C. to say it like they do in the movie Clue. Monkeys, brains, though popular in Cantonese cuisine, are not often found in Washington, D.C. Mrs. Peacock, I need to have her dress, by the way. I think I should wear that to the hearing, but I'm going to try to attend those hearings. It's. I hear it's a very hard ticket to get. But I will be reporting from D.C. right there, right there at the Capitol. And I'm looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to meeting and hanging out with some of my friends who live there as well. And then Saturday, June 18, we're going to have a meetup for patrons and supercasters, and that's going to be at a location that I will disclose to patrons through their emails that they use to sign up for Patreon. So if you're a patron or supercaster, check your spam, because sometimes our emails get dropped into the spam folder and they end up in your junk. So check there for the location of that meet and greet and come have a cocktail with me. We can hang out and chat. It'll be fun. And that's going to be right in downtown D.C. so that's where that is for the for your information. Now, everybody, I'll be back tomorrow, and I'm looking forward to the hearing because the hearing, you know, today's actually Sunday. The hearing's tomorrow morning. I'm looking forward to live tweeting that. And so I'll be talking to you then and on the bean. So until then, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health, and vote blue over. Q. I've been ag and them's the beans. Refried beans. I like refried beans.