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Jan 23, 2022 Rep. Bennie Thompson tells New Day the committee has had conversations with Bill Barr, and hearings will begin in the spring; the committee has all the documents from the national archives and they include an executive order for the DoD to seize voting machines; Mike Flynn allegedly worked to extort election fraud cooperation out of Republican members of Congress from Pennsylvania; Giuliani associate Igor Fruman is sentenced to one year in prison; and the Arizona Dems censure Kyrsten Sinema; plus Allison and Dana deliver your Good News. Follow our guest: Mary Trump https://twitter.com/MaryLTrump Amazon.com: Who Could Ever Love You: A Family Memoir (Audible Audio Edition)
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Alison Gill
MSW Media. Hey, everybody, it's Ag. And welcome to Refried Beans, where we play an episode of the Daily Beans podcast from the same week either one, two or three years ago, so we can see how far we've come. So please enjoy this episode from days gone by and note the date in the intro.
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Dana Goldberg
Refried beans.
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Alison Gill
I like refried beans.
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Dana Goldberg
That's why I want to try fried.
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Mary Trump
Beans, because maybe they're just as good.
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Alison Gill
And we're wasting time. Daily Beans. Daily Beans.
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Dana Goldberg
Daily Beans. Daily Beans.
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Alison Gill
Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Monday, January 24, 2022. Today, Rep. Benny Thompson tells New Day the 16 Committee has had conversations with Bill Barr and hearings will begin in the spring. The committee has all the documents from the National Archives, and they include an executive order for the Department of Defense to seize voting machines. But more documents could be on the way. Mike Flynn allegedly worked to extort election fraud cooperation out of Republican members of Congress. From Pennsylvania. Giuliani associate Igor Fruman is sentenced to one year in prison and the Arizona Dems censure. Kirsten Cinema I'm Alison Gill.
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Dana Goldberg
And I'm Dana Goldberg.
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Alison Gill
Hello, Dana. Happy Monday.
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Dana Goldberg
Happy Monday. I. I hope you had a good weekend. I enjoyed watching Aaron Rodgers lose his ass in a football game. One of the funniest tweets. I said, green Bay looks really lethargic. They could really use a shot in the arm.
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Alison Gill
I liked. Green Bay would have won if Mike Pence had more courage.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, my God. So funny.
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Alison Gill
Yep. I'm.
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Dana Goldberg
I'm. I'm not. Now. We're recording this during the Bucs game, so I'm not sure what's going to happen. However, if I could have my way and this may come to fruition by the time you're hearing this, I would be more than happy to see Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers lose in the same weekend.
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Alison Gill
That would be fantastic.
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Dana Goldberg
I'm just tired of seeing him in the Super Bowl. Like, let's. Let's get someone else there. You know what I mean?
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Alison Gill
I do. I do know what you mean. And I know we probably don't have a lot of sportsball fans listening.
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Dana Goldberg
You'd be surprised.
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Alison Gill
I would be. I'm from Cleveland.
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Dana Goldberg
So by default you're like, you're right, Dana. I would absolutely be surprised.
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Alison Gill
But yeah. And. And I think that the. I like when Travis Akers, who's a good friend of mine, like, tweeted out. Due to overwhelming demand, dunking on Aaron Rodgers will be extended throughout the week.
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Dana Goldberg
Fantastic.
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Alison Gill
Keep doing that on Twitter because it was Pretty amazing. And it's still going. Later in the show, I'm going to be talking with our friend Mary Trump. We're going to discuss who's going to throw who under the bus, you know, like what's most likely. Because she knows best, right? So I was like, if, you know, if they have enough to charge crimes on the kids, will they roll on their dad? Like, so she's gonna, we're gonna talk about that and when she's gonna give us an update on her lawsuit. You know, she sued Donald and her aunt Maryanne for defrauding her. So we're gonna talk a little bit about that. It's a really great discussion. And then of course, we have good news. So, you know, wonderful.
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Dana Goldberg
Let's do this on a Monday. You ready?
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Alison Gill
Yeah, let's do it. Let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes. All right. Big news over the weekend is that within of documents sent to the committee from the National Archives after the Supreme Court refused to block them on behalf of Donald was an executive order. It was never signed and it was ordering the military to seize voting machines and have a special counsel appointed, Sidney Powell. Okay. And Representative Benny Thompson, you know, chair of the 16 committee, says the panel has already had conversations with former Attorney General Bill Barr, presumably about that memo, but also members of the Department of Defense. Now, language from the executive order, this one to seize the voting machines matches language drafted by Sidney Powell, who's currently under criminal investigation by Department of Justice. And the language also matches a redacted affidavit from Phil Waldron, that's the distributor of that 38 page coup, PowerPoint, he briefed Congress on, and not all of Congress, just certain special members. And it was coordinated by Patrick Byrne, former Overstock CEO that helped with the Arizona fraudit Now, just a few moments ago, Rep. Zoe Lofgren went on an interview with Acosta on cnn and she clarified the bar conversations because there was a little bit of question this morning on social media what the conversations were. Did he testify? Was he forthcoming? Is he cooperating? Someone said he's coo. You know, we weren't quite sure. Could it have just been, you know, conversations, negotiating whether or not he's going to talk to them, you know, knowing he's got a book coming out March 8th. Well, Zoe Lofgren gave us a little clarification. She said Barr had spoken to the committee on more than one occasion, that he spoke voluntarily with committee staff and attorneys, and she was glad about his willingness to help the committee get to the truth. So it sounds like they got at least something out of Bill Barr. Like I said, he's got his book coming out March 8th. Don't buy it. But that's good because that could be before public committee hearings. Right. And he may want to bolster his book sales with some kind of heroic public testimony. But make no mistake, Barr is no hero.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, no.
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Alison Gill
But, you know, it reminds me of when Bolton wouldn't testify to the committee because he wanted it to come out in his book later. It doesn't seem like we're running into that problem here. And I could see Bill Barr trying to paint himself a hero. I don't give a shit. As long as he tells everybody what he knows, he's never going to be a hero in my book.
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Dana Goldberg
No, he's a cocky, self indulgent son of a. Yeah, he just is. He thinks he can get away with everything, you see. I mean, even being questioned by, you know, Kamala when she was a senator. It was just gross.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, he is awful. Now, what interests me also about Benny Thompson's statement this morning is the DoD officials part that they've talked to, because we know, you know, Kash Patel has talked to the committee. He was installed after the election and. As was Chris Miller. I'm not sure about Chris Miller's cooperation at this point, but I remember distinctly in the weeks leading up to the election, I think October 20th, actually, Chair of the Joint Chiefs Mark Milley told NPR, hey, the military plays no role in election outcomes and that they will obey lawful orders when given by the President. Lawful.
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Dana Goldberg
That's a key word there.
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Alison Gill
And he said that unprompted, like, you know, the meme, nobody. Yeah, General Milley, we don't get involved. And then also all former living secretaries of defense, all of them wrote in a letter attesting to the same stuff, you know, hey, we only, you know, don't do this. We don't get involved in elections just three days before the insurrection. Sounds like everybody knew except us. Quote, american elections and the peaceful transfer of power that result are hallmarks of our democracy, with one singular and tragic exception that cost the lives of more Americans than all of our other wars combined. The United States has had an unbroken record of such transitions since 1789, including in times of partisan strife, war, epidemics, and economic depression. This year should be no exception. That was January 3rd.
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Dana Goldberg
Interesting, right?
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Alison Gill
Like, what do you know? It was at that time when I said, look, there's not going to be a military coup in this country, but, boy, did we come close.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah.
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Alison Gill
The committee is still going to be receiving documents from the National Archives in the days and weeks ahead. They haven't gotten it all, apparently. They haven't gotten yet in their hands, the outtakes from the video Donald was forced to put out, asking rioters to go home. Remember, there were apparently outtakes where he was just a dick.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, my God. I did not actually know that. And now I want to see all of them.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And they thought they were going to get him. Zoe Lofgren mentioned that they have evidence that Trump allies in the White House were advised by White House counsel that they had to turn over all information to the Archives in accordance with the Presidential Records act, which makes me think the committee is maybe seeing some shit missing, like perhaps these outtakes. And it is of note that the committee attached that memo through Don McGahn back from 2017. You gotta preserve all your presidential records. We hear you like to eat stuff and not write stuff down. So they actually were advised in a document, an official document. And that memo, that document was attached to the letter to Ivanka Trump from the 1 6th Council. So I'm wondering if she specifically has maybe failed to turn over some records which could put her in legal trouble.
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Dana Goldberg
That would be lovely. I feel like the outtakes are like Trump being like, yeah, you morons, Burn the son of a bitch down. And someone's like, cut.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, that'd be a great SNL sketch.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, my God. They really should do it. Like, what? The outtakes from that, you're all, you know, find people, go home. Oh, God. You know, there was some good ones. All right, thank you so much, ag, for kicking us off with that. This next story, the FBI agents in the House panel investigating the January 6 attack on the Capitol have both learned of an alleged plan by allies of retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn to gather, quote, intelligence on top Republicans to move them to back election audits in key states. Trump lost, said ex whistleblower Everett Stern, who talked to the panel and the FBI. And there's probably a good chance he had information because of that hacking of the RNC back in 2016, was it 16? Yeah. All right. Stern, who runs the intelligence firm Tactical Rabbit, it's a Republican vying for a Senate seat in Pennsylvania at the moment. In multiple interviews with the Guardian, said two Flynn associates with the right wing Patriot Caucus Group enlisted his help in April in a scheme to seek potentially damaging information on two Republican members of Congress to prod them to back an audit with the 2020 vote that Joe Biden won. Now Stern told the Guardian he spent several hours in November telling House panel investigators about the alleged drive Bieflin associates who sought campaign finance and other dirt on Pennsylvania Senator Pat Toomey and Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick to win their support for an audit to bolster Trump's debunked charges that Biden's win was fraudulent. So Stern expressed his may that Flynn's Patriot Caucus associates, quote, don't understand that Biden is the president. They wanted to collect information through Tactical Rabbit and my campaign to turn up the heat on Toomey and Fitzpatrick to back an audit which Stern viewed as potentially extortion.
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Alison Gill
Oh, yeah, Yeah.
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Dana Goldberg
I think it was more than potentially extortion.
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Alison Gill
Keep crime and Flynn Keep crime in oh man. From the Washington Post the retired federal judge assigned to review the contents of 18 electronic devices seized from Rudy Giuliani's home and offices in Manhattan in April last April, has withheld about half of what former President Donald Trump's personal lawyer argued should be kept out of the hands of investigators because it was privileged. More than 3,000 communications were released to prosecutors on Wednesday in an action reflected in a four page report submitted to a judge overseeing litigation on the FBI's April 28 seizure of Giuliani's phones and computers. The contents of the devices were not disclosed. The Manhattan U.S. attorney's office has been investigating Giuliani's dealings with Ukraine while while he was representing Trump. Prosecutors have said Giuliani might have acted as an unregistered foreign agent, which was the basis for the agent's search. Giuliani's attorney, Robert Costello, is dumb. He said his review of the contents of the devices revealed no messages between Giuliani and the former president and no proof of any crime. No messages, no crimes.
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Dana Goldberg
They've never spoken. He doesn't even know who the guy is.
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Alison Gill
3000 messages were handed over. Okay. Trump is known for his avoidance of electronic messages, a habit that has frustrated state and criminal civil investigators in New York who are evaluating his business practices. Quote, there's no Foreign Agents Registration act violation. Costello said Rudy Giuliani didn't do anything illegal or unlawful. Period. Barbara Jones, in her progress statement filed Friday, reported that of the more than 25,000 chats and messages contained on a cell phone dating to the beginning of 2018, Giuliani initially asserted privilege, or, you know, privilege over about 96 of those 25,000 items, 40 of which she granted. His attorneys withdrew their assertions on 19 items, and Jones said 37 were not privileged. So there were 37 that he objected to that, she said, that's not privileged, bro. From that set of records, 56 items were released to federal prosecutors. On another set of Giuliani's devices, more than 3,000 communications from Dec. 1, 2018, to May 31, 2019, were reviewed, but he did not assert privilege on any of those. Those were also released to prosecutors this week. Previously, Jones sided with Giuliani with respect to three items. He said, we're privileged three out of 23,000. In October 2019, two of Giuliani's associates, Parnas and Fruman, were arrested at Dulles on campaign finance violations, including for using foreign funds to support political candidates Trump. Parnas and Fruman also were said to have assisted Giuliani in his efforts to pressure Ukrainian officials to make an announcement that they would be investigating Joe Biden. Fruman pled guilty in September to soliciting a contribution from a foreign national. On Friday afternoon, Fruman was sentenced to one year in prison and fined $10,000. In court, Fruman said his actions are a shame that would live with me forever. Harness was convicted in a trial in October and is awaiting sentencing. By the way, Dana, I just found out Rudy is now selling autographed 911 T shirts for $911.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh my God. He really is a disgusting human being, isn't he?
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Alison Gill
Autographed 911 T shirts.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh God.
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Alison Gill
Hmm.
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Dana Goldberg
All right. And in this segment, we are going to Arizona with one of my least favorite people on the planet, the Arizona Democratic Party's executive committee. They have formally censured Senator Kyrsten Sinema on Saturday morning as a result of her inaction on changing the filibuster rules to pass voting rights reform. This is some little statements from there on the matter of the filibuster and the urgency to protect voting rights. We've been crystal clear in the choice between an archaic legislative norm and protecting Arizonans right to vote. We choose the latter and we always will. And that's from Chairwoman Raquel Turan, I think.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, I think so.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah. She said that in a statement, went on to say, while we take no pleasure in this announcement, the ADP executive board has decided to formally censure Senator Sinema as a result of her failure to do whatever it takes to ensure the health of our democracy. Now Sinema is facing renewed heat from those who helped elect her after she and Senator Joe Manchin this week were the only two Democrats to vote against filibuster reform, effectively derailing passage of voting rights legislation. Now, the slim Democratic majority in the Senate meant filibuster reform was seen as crucial for passing the Freedom to Vote John R. Lewis Act. And those are a top priority for Democrats and President Joe Biden. Arizona Democrats, they organized heavily. Okay, so now I was part of this with the hrc. All over the country people did. But in Arizona, the Democrats organized heavily to elect Sinema to the Senate. She previously served in the U.S. house, helping give her a narrow victory. They lobbied Sinema for months to change her stance on the filibuster, but many weren't able to get a meeting with the senator. Interesting. Now, Sinema lost a major endorsement this week from Emily's List, a large political organization that bankrolls campaigns they endorse, including those who support abortion rights. A coalition of groups made of Democrats in the state. They wrote the group asking for to act on the issue before the vote. Emily's List announced it would not endorse Cinema again if she didn't change her position. You know, Ag, I would, you know, put beans on this here. I don't even think Cinema's gonna run again. I think she's making so much fucking money right now from dark money and I would be shocked if she ever ran for political office again.
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Alison Gill
Yeah.
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Dana Goldberg
And if she did, it would be as a Republican.
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Alison Gill
I'm actually wondering if they were like, she's a good target and dark money poured a bunch of money at her to run for Senate.
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Dana Goldberg
I absolutely think that's what happened.
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Alison Gill
I met her, put her in and then flipped a switch.
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Dana Goldberg
I met her. She craves attention. She wants people to know her name. She wants to be the belle of the ballots. She stands out with her fashion and everything else that she does. I guarantee they sell her as an easy mark. That would be my beans 100%.
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Alison Gill
That's my beans too, that this started before she even ran.
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Dana Goldberg
Yep.
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Alison Gill
All right. I will be right back with Mary Trump to discuss who's going to throw whom under the bus. And I'll ask her for an update on her lawsuit against her aunt and uncle. You don't want to miss it. Stay with us after these messages. We'll be right back, everybody. Welcome back. Happy today to be joined by my friend, author of the Reckoning and Too Much and Never Enough, Very both required reading and host of the new Mary Trump show podcast. Please welcome Mary Trump. Hi, Mary.
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Mary Trump
Hey, ag, how's it going?
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Alison Gill
It's, you know, it's been wall to wall news, really. I know that it has been for five years but like it feels like it's heating up, especially right now.
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Mary Trump
I have to be honest with you, I feel the same way. Something. And again, this could just be hope or just because we're tired. I'm not really sure. But three weeks ago, it felt like a flip switched or something shifted and I was like, you know, I know that there's not more news than usual, as it's always, as you said, for the last five years, non stop tennis ball, fire hose of news. But it did feel qualitatively different. Some things felt like they were definitely getting worse and some, and in some ways it felt. Or in other areas, it felt like we were moving towards something better.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. Yeah. I have to agree. And that's sort of the basis for why I wanted to speak to you today, because there is so much going on in the news right now with Donald, Ivanka Jr. And Eric. And before it was always the Trump organization or lieutenants or folks below, but now they seem to be front and center. I mean, we have the 16 committee letter to Ivanka asking for her cooperation. We have the recent New York attorney general filing 115 pages to compel Donald Jr. And Ivanka because Eric's already testified to testify to be deposed in that civil state.
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Mary Trump
But did Eric really testify?
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Dana Goldberg
Is.
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Mary Trump
Is claiming the fifth 500 times testifying or just wasting people's time? I'm not sure.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. And you know what's fun is that while invoking the fifth can't be used against you in a criminal investigation, it can in a civil investigation. So that's fun. And then, of course, the work in the Manhattan DA's office, which is, you know, hand in hand with the New York Attorney General right now. And I was positing that, you know, it feels like the kids and, or whatever you want to call them, the grown adult children, the crotch goblins.
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Mary Trump
Oh, Jesus.
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Alison Gill
It feels like they used more written communication and more, you know, phone communication than their dad did. And so I feel like they are more susceptible to criminal charges than Donald would be. And that made me wonder, and I figured you would be the perfect person to answer this question if I were a prosecutor. And I said, all right, Ivanka, I've got this crime on you, or you can have immunity and testify against Donald. Do you think the kids would flip? Would all of them flip? Would some of them flip? Are some more likely to stay out of prison that knowing that they might be sending Donald to prison? What, what's sort of the dynamic there?
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Mary Trump
Well, first of all, I saw your tweet earlier about that very issue that they're, you know, they're millennials. They're plugged in to modern technology in a way Donald's not. They use it in a way he doesn't. And there's definitely more of a trail there. I'm pretty sure there are people who have access to their communications. That having been said, I think there's no doubt in my mind that under the right circumstances, all three of them would flip. Because in all seriousness, what do they owe Donald other than, you know, all of their money and power. But seriously, like in terms of filial relationship, in terms of love and affection and support, because let's face it, he would. He's not protecting Ivanka by, you know, claiming, going after, quote, unquote, children, even though she's a 40 year old woman with children of her own and worked for the administration. You know, he's not doing that to protect her, he's doing that to protect himself. So if the roles were reversed, he would throw them under bus. The bus in a second. What is important though, is investigators don't go to the big fish first to get smaller fish. So they don't need him to flip on people, they need people to flip on him. I think, though I'm not suggesting at all that it would happen easily. There would need to be lots of compelling ironclad evidence. I think because of her position in both the business and, and the administration, Ivanka probably has the most exposure because of the fact that both of them were there that day on January 6th. And Donnie spoke at the, I don't know, what do we call it? Hitler rally. What else to call it, you know, he has more exposure. The only one of the three I think might not flip so easily is Donnie, though, because there's something so wrong with him in terms of his still, for whatever reason, desperately striving for his father's approval. It's quite weird. But yeah, I'm with you on this. I don't see. I don't even understand why it's a question. It seems pretty obvious to me. And by the way, just as a, an aside about family, the parent in a crime family should encourage the children to save themselves. Right, right.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, that you would. One would think. But I, I believe Cohen had said, I, I think on a recent program I saw him on that he has that at one point Donald said, you know, make sure that, you know, the kids go down and not me or something. Something, you know, or one kid in like, make sure it's, you know, Don who stays.
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Mary Trump
Yeah.
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Alison Gill
Or make you protect evac. It was Something like that. I can't remember the exact verbiage, but. But this sort of treachery runs in the family, right? Like, if I remember correctly, didn't Donald and his siblings drain their father's wealth and like, kind of screw him over toward the end or.
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Mary Trump
Well, actually before that. And by the way, it wasn't to screw my grandfather over because he was in, you know, in his late 80s. He had Alzheimer's. It's not like he was running out of money. It was too deep. Basically siphon money out of the company to lessen its value so that they would have to spend, I don't like, hundreds of million dollars less in estate taxes, what they were really doing and screwing over the Federal government and U.S. state and federal governments, and yeah, the American people. And just as a small side benefit, they were screwing over me. But many years before that, not that many. But in the early 90s, when my grandfather was already suffering from Alzheimer's, Donald tried to add a codicil to my grandfather's will, which would have made Donald the sole executor of the will and put him in control of the entire estate. And he got found out. But if he hadn't, I mean, my grandfather was having a rare lucid day and didn't know quite what was wrong, but knew something was wrong. And my grandmother told my aunt, if that hadn't happened, Donald would have taken over everything, impoverished, well, probably not impoverished, but would have kept my aunts and other uncle out of the inheritance entirely and probably would have squandered it within a year or two, because that's kind of what he's good at.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, he's not good at keeping money and making more money off of it. Really, he's not. Okay.
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Mary Trump
Weird, right?
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Alison Gill
I know. And. And speaking of defrauding the family, I haven't heard a decision yet as to whether or not your lawsuit against your uncle and your aunt can go forward. Do you have any updates on that that you can give us at this time, if many time frame or. I've. I thought it would go a lot more quickly. Maybe. Maybe the judge is writing up a book about how wrong they are. That's kind of what I'm hoping.
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Mary Trump
Well, I mean, first of all, we filed a lawsuit in September of 2020, which seems like 500 billion years ago, I swear to God. But the problem is the first judge, after eight months of doing basically nothing, retired. So a new judge had to come on. And so it's been about a year of the new judge, and this is the very. We had a hearing a couple of weeks ago, which, by the way, has nothing to do with the lawsuit. It's only about whether or not the lawsuit could go forward. So technically speaking, the lawsuit hasn't even started yet because there are two issues. One is a statute of limitations issue. In other words, did I wait too long to file? Because the statute of limitations is, I don't know, two to five years, something like that. But we're saying I didn't know that fraud had been committed until the New York Times came out with its amazing piece in 2018. And the other issue is the non disclosure agreement I signed when I settled with them over my grandfather's estate in 2000 or 2001, which we're claiming is completely invalid and obviously they're claiming isn't. So I believe that the hearing went well to this extent. The judge really knew his stuff. He was totally plugged in and I thought, asked really excellent probing questions of both. Both sides or all three sides, I should say, because my.
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Alison Gill
Your lawyers were absolutely fantastic.
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Mary Trump
My lawyer, John Quinn was. I mean, it was a performance for the ages. He was.
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Dana Goldberg
And I rem.
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Alison Gill
I remember them being like, hey, okay. Because I think one of their arguments, at least on the statute of limitations thing was like, well, she could have figured it out, right? And the judge was like, look, I, I give that she's probably a brilliant psychologist, but she's not a real estate and banking expert. And it took a team of experts at New York Times 18 months or something to go through those documents and to expect you to have. She just didn't do her due diligence. She should have figured it out. The way that Quinn presented that argument and the questions the judge asked, I thought went really, really well. And I honestly think the NDA thing is something that should be figured out in the merits of the case, not a motion to, to stop it at the beginning. So I'm just, I'm really excited to see what the decision is.
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Dana Goldberg
Me too.
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Mary Trump
I think that's what the judge was driving at. I actually think, though, that based on what I. My understanding of somebody who, as somebody who knows nothing about this stuff at all, it did seem, though, that, that the NDA was more of an issue than the statute of limitations. But that's okay. I also feel like the NDA issue has been not adjudicated exactly, but discussed enough that it shouldn't be anything to trip us up. But, you know, as we all know, to our incredible frustration, legal time crawls on its hands and knees. While the world spins. Yeah. So it could be weeks, if not months before we get a decision. If it's a decision in our favor, they will appeal. So. And on we go.
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Alison Gill
Yeah, of course. Yes. Just justice is tantric, I'm convinced.
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Mary Trump
Oh, by the way, just as a quick aside, it turns out, though, that the case that was the lawsuit against Andrew. I don't. What Windsor, whatever, the former prince guy in England and best buddies with Jeffrey Epstein. The case against him is going forward because I believe Judge Kaplan is in charge of that case, decided that that NDA wasn't valid. So that helps us too, in an interesting way.
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Alison Gill
And you have Several other previous NDAs from people who worked in the White House that were determined to be invalid as well. So I think all of that precedent shoved up together.
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Mary Trump
Yeah.
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Alison Gill
Wrapped up in a nice big bow. It's going to be. It's going to be interesting. You shoot me a text, let me know what, what comes down. I'm sure you'll hear about it before we do.
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Mary Trump
Absolutely.
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Alison Gill
And everybody needs to check out the Mary Trump show. It's so fantastic. It's a Politikon joint. You're going to love it. It's one of my favorite podcasts. And of course, the Reckoning. Everybody has to check out the Reckoning. And that's all I have for you today, other than I just wanted to, you know, wish you a happy week because I think the news is just going to keep going at. At an avalanche type pace.
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Mary Trump
So, yeah, I honestly, I do my podcast once a week and now that I'm doing one, I do not understand how you do what you do. I don't. I mean, I often feel overwhelmed by having to keep up with everything, but I don't have to talk about it every day coherently. So between the daily beans and cleanup on aisle, I'm going to Forget the number 54.
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Alison Gill
51. 45.
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Mary Trump
45, whatever. Sorry. That makes perfect sense, doesn't it? And the book club, I mean, it's so impressive. So you guys listening are so lucky that you have Allison doing the heavy lifting for the rest of us every freaking day.
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Alison Gill
Pshaw. Thank you so much. And I absolutely love yours too. We need to do some more swapsies. It'll be great.
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Mary Trump
Absolutely.
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Alison Gill
And I look forward to hearing this decision. And we'll see what happens with the grown adult children. It's going to be interesting.
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Mary Trump
I mean, Jesus Christ. Talk to Hunter Biden about whether or not we should be leaving children alone, right?
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Alison Gill
Yeah. Okay. Well, he's a grown up okay, well, then.
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Mary Trump
Then what does that say about you three?
- [31:40]
Alison Gill
And didn't he also serve in the administrative.
- [31:43]
Mary Trump
Oh, wait, no, no, that was Ivanka and Jared.
- [31:47]
Alison Gill
See, I think. I think it was Asha. She tweeted. It's like, ooh, I guess bring your daughter to work day was a bad idea. Oh, that's brilliant.
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Mary Trump
That is brilliant.
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Alison Gill
All right, we'll talk soon, my friend. And please take care.
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Dana Goldberg
You too.
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Mary Trump
Stay safe.
- [32:03]
Alison Gill
All right, everybody, stick around. We'll be right back with the good news.
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Dana Goldberg
We'll be right back.
- [32:13]
Alison Gill
All right, everybody, welcome back. It's time for the good news, everyone.
- [32:19]
Dana Goldberg
Then.
- [32:19]
Alison Gill
Good news, everyone. Good news, good news. If you have any good news confessions, corrections, photos of anything, really. I mean, at this point, why not? You can send it in to Daily Beans Pod and click on contact. You know, we're all grown ups, really.
- [32:41]
Dana Goldberg
Are we? Well, most of us.
- [32:42]
Alison Gill
Sometimes.
- [32:43]
Dana Goldberg
I'm not.
- [32:45]
Alison Gill
When it comes to, like, fart jokes, I'm very. I'm 12.
- [32:48]
Dana Goldberg
But hey, we've been told we have the best fart jokes on podcast, so. Oh, the smartest. We've been told we have the smartest fart jokes out there.
- [32:55]
Alison Gill
And the. Yeah, and the most clever dick jokes as well.
- [32:58]
Dana Goldberg
Exactly.
- [32:59]
Alison Gill
Yeah, I concur. I concur wholeheartedly. And so, yeah, again, DailyBeansPod.com click on Contact. You can send that in corrections too. If I get something wrong, please let me know. I'm happy to make those corrections. I think it's important that we get shit right, especially coming up, you know, on these elections where disinformation is going to be king.
- [33:16]
Dana Goldberg
Oh, yeah.
- [33:17]
Alison Gill
I'm going to kick us off with Matt Pronouns he and him. Hello in an ag voice. You leguminous purveyors of flying hope monkeys. I love all that you do. And now listen to all the pods. Every week I do have a quick correction for he. I've heard you do this on a couple of the pods, most recently on the MSW book club. When it comes to suppositions, in reading between the lines, the person conveying the idea or the concept implies the meaning, and the person receiving the info infers the meaning. I do that. I have people who convey it, inferring, I do that all the time. Thank you for all you do. It never fails to make me chuckle when hearing ag deadpan hot notes in the interlude to that block for podpet tacks. Last time I gave you pics of my big fuzzy buddy Dorhe the Malinois giants schnauzer mix and yes, he's a very big dog. Here's one of him sleeping on the couch, and he's taking up more than half of it. Also, since Dana is a big fan of the words floof and boop, I give you a pic of my parents old English sheepdog Bailey. He's a giant floof monster of a dog with a very boopable. No.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh. I mean, how can you not like the word floof? Oh, my God.
- [34:30]
Alison Gill
I had one growing up.
- [34:31]
Dana Goldberg
Oh, my God. This dog really is perfect. Just little black beady eyes under all that white fur.
- [34:37]
Alison Gill
Little muppet. And I'm always reminded of of labyrinth when I see one of these.
- [34:41]
Dana Goldberg
Oh, that's a lot of floof and boop.
- [34:43]
Alison Gill
Floof and boop.
- [34:44]
Dana Goldberg
Say floof, everyone. Right now. Just a moment. Say floof, and tell me that doesn't make you happy.
- [34:49]
Alison Gill
Floof. And you can even do floo floof. Like. Like a om, but with floof and boop.
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Dana Goldberg
I think that's why the Swedish chef was always so happy. Fleur, fleeny, meanie, bork bork. Fleur flur. Bork. It was the fleur floor in the pot. Okay, shall I take the next two, my dear?
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Alison Gill
Yes.
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Dana Goldberg
All right, we've got this one from Amanda. Pronouns, she and her. I've been working on a book on the hashtag altgov and Twitter for almost five years, and I sent it to the publisher today. Amanda, congratulations.
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Alison Gill
Awesome.
- [35:18]
Dana Goldberg
That's awesome. Keep us posted on that, please. Next one's from Hannah Pronoun. She and her hi beans queens. I have an update on my good bad news. The Park Hotel prisoners who briefly shared their home with a famous tennis player earlier this month have had a lot of interest from international media and have now raised over $100,000 toward their legal fees. They still have a long way to go to get to their target of 200k. And of course, legal cases can drag on for years, but it's a start. For my pet tax this time, I give you Maine coons. Heisenberg, Brown, tabby, and white and Schrodinger.
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Alison Gill
You got it.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah. Schrodinger. Who's the gray tabby and white?
- [35:59]
Alison Gill
Heisenberg and Schrodinger. Excellent names. First of all, famous names.
- [36:03]
Dana Goldberg
I also love that this cat's just in the cabinet behind the couscous. Also fun to say.
- [36:08]
Alison Gill
Couscous, Floof.
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Dana Goldberg
Boop.
- [36:10]
Alison Gill
Couscous.
- [36:11]
Dana Goldberg
Floof, floof. Couscous.
- [36:13]
Alison Gill
Look at that foot. Oh, my God. So cute. All right, I'm gonna take the next two, and then you Got you can end up.
- [36:21]
Dana Goldberg
You can do whatever you want. Okay, great.
- [36:23]
Alison Gill
I was gonna say finish us off.
- [36:25]
Dana Goldberg
But I was like, you know what, Ag? I've been waiting for that invitation for two years. All right, moving on.
- [36:33]
Alison Gill
Next up, from Kelly Rose, pronouns her. She. I absolutely love your podcast, Daily Beans and Muller. She wrote. Hell, I'm finding all my favorites are largely MSW Media Productions. Thank you, Kelly Rose. Okay, when I first came to New Zealand. Okay, I'm jealous and you're showing off. When I first came to New Zealand over 10 years ago, I too pronounced Maori. Maori. A common mistake and one any Kiwi will quickly correct you on. The proper pronunciation is Maori. Slightly rolling the R Maori. Like that. Okay, sounds good. All right, thank you. Yeah, I have no idea. I was just looking at it in print and I'm very unfamiliar. I appreciate that, Kelly Rose. And next up from MK and abq. You have to take this one and I'll take the what's up in the 505.
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Dana Goldberg
All right, MK. Dear beans queens, bless me sisters, for I have sinned. I fell for the shtick and bought a crappy. Oh, thank you. I brought a crappy pillow A few years ago. I asked for this. I was searching for a pillow that allowed me to wake up without a headache and or crooked neck and this definitely wasn't it. It's chopped up foam that doesn't breathe. Simply put, it sucks. Now, for those of you that aren't sure what we're talking about, I asked if anyone had actually purchased a mypillow. And it seems MK in Albuquerque has. And he was a piece of garbage. Thank you, MK Pet tax. My pet tax is this photo of my daughter's sweet old guy, Toby, who is still loopy after having his teeth cleaned and a few pulled. He's my favorite dog of all time. Don't tell my grumpy little dachshund mix. Look at this cocker spaniel. Now, cocker spaniels are some of the softest dogs on the planet. I love them so much.
- [38:10]
Alison Gill
And they're so derpy.
- [38:11]
Dana Goldberg
And he is so high.
- [38:13]
Alison Gill
And now he's extra derpy because he's high af.
- [38:16]
Dana Goldberg
Oh, I love it. He's a high cocker.
- [38:21]
Alison Gill
Hot cocker. Gonna walk around, sing that all day. Bye Menon. And yeah, it's gonna be bad. All right. Finally, from Hal Pronoun, she and her greetings. I am writing in response to your question. Do any of your listeners own a mypillow? I must confess, there is one member of my household that does my 5 year old. While he's never cared much for stuffies or loveies, early on he latched onto one particular and unfortunate comfort item, a mypillow that we bought him on a whim long before anyone had cause to even recognize the name Mike Lindell. He wags it around, won't sleep without it, and even refuses to keep a pillowcase on it. And as you can see from the attached picture, my pillow is scrolled in a repeating pattern all over the thing. The words my pillow. While my little one certainly believes it's priceless, I can't help but give it a daily dose of side eye. By the way, purely objectively speaking, it's quite lumpy. No stars.
- [39:18]
Dana Goldberg
Oh my God. See, it is just chopped up foam like this other one.
- [39:23]
Alison Gill
So.
- [39:23]
Dana Goldberg
Wait a minute. You know what's funny? My pillow, if you don't zoom in, looks like snakes.
- [39:28]
Alison Gill
They do look like snakes.
- [39:29]
Dana Goldberg
Don't tell your child that. I'm so sorry, but it does. And that would make sense. He's a snake.
- [39:34]
Alison Gill
Thank you for helping make sense of these crazy times. All the best. Yeah. Look at that thing. That is lumpy. AI.
- [39:39]
Dana Goldberg
Oh, hell.
- [39:39]
Alison Gill
Yeah, you're right. It looks like don't tread on me.
- [39:42]
Dana Goldberg
Right, doesn't it? It totally does.
- [39:45]
Alison Gill
Or like, you know what?
- [39:46]
Dana Goldberg
I know you know what?
- [39:47]
Alison Gill
It looks like the snake. Do you remember the video game Pitfall? I do remember the snakes. Yep, that's what. That's what that is.
- [39:55]
Dana Goldberg
Either way, it's a snake. His signature is a snake. He was telling people all along who he was. I do love that your child though has like, oh, you know, a woobie. Like just something that there comforts them, that makes me happy.
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Alison Gill
And now I want to hear about everyone's kids woobies.
- [40:09]
Dana Goldberg
Ooh.
- [40:10]
Alison Gill
Because when I was a kid, I had a queen sized comforter quilt. The thing was massive. And I drug it around the house.
- [40:17]
Dana Goldberg
Oh my God, it must have been heavy as hell.
- [40:19]
Alison Gill
It was heavy. And I wouldn't. No, it's mine, you know, and I just wouldn't let go of it up until I was like 5 years old. That quilt was my wibby.
- [40:28]
Dana Goldberg
I think I either had a raggedy Ann or an Andy doll that I did that with. Like it went with me everywhere.
- [40:36]
Alison Gill
Yeah. I also had a panda that my dad. The stuffed panda that my dad got me when we went to the San Diego Zoo when I was very young. And I had that thing. And I still have it actually. It's just torn to shit. It's all dirty. But Yeah, I still have that. And I had a Snoopy, but I don't know where the Snoopy went.
- [40:53]
Dana Goldberg
That's awesome. I think I have an adult. I don't carry it around, but I have, like, an adult stuffed animal that I realized that I've kept through the years because someone very important gave it to me. And so I've just kept. His name's William. He's a little rabbit that sits on my. Just hearing myself talk about it's making me laugh. It sits on the living room chair. William's very sweet, and then one day he got his little ear too close to a cand. And so it's just one of those things that he's like this perfect little, imperfect stuffed animal that brings me comfort.
- [41:21]
Alison Gill
I have an ice bat that I picked up at comic con in 2006, and it's actually my cat Abubakr's Woobi, but it's on the bed 247 all the time. Because it's his Wooby. The cat will actually put his arms around it and sleep. It's adorable.
- [41:38]
Dana Goldberg
You know, how sweet would it be, though, if, like, there wasn't some social stigma and, like, adults could still just drag around their childhood woobies that gave them comfort? We should all have one, because now, unfortunately, it's like a bottle of tequila. Like, I feel like a blanket would be much healthier.
- [41:52]
Alison Gill
Bottle of wine is my. Would be. Hey, why don't we make a wine called Wooby?
- [41:59]
Dana Goldberg
Oh, we should. Some sort of alcohol. If anyone out there owns a winery.
- [42:02]
Alison Gill
Yep. If you own or know, we should put out an MSW bottle special limited edition Wooby.
- [42:10]
Dana Goldberg
Yes.
- [42:10]
Alison Gill
It'll be a Syrah or a Pinot. Definitely.
- [42:14]
Dana Goldberg
It has to be a Syrah. Almost like a sarong into my whoopi.
- [42:18]
Alison Gill
Okay, I get it.
- [42:20]
Dana Goldberg
Ag I do have a final thought, but it's more of a request.
- [42:24]
Alison Gill
Yeah, absolutely. Let's go.
- [42:25]
Dana Goldberg
I have a fan that has. I won't tell the story, the whole story on air, but I do have a request if there's any listeners out there that are stroke specialists, medical stroke specialists. I'm not going to ask you to give unsolicited advice, but if you are a stroke specialist and you have a free minute or two where I could ask you a question for a friend if you could email the podcast. I normally wouldn't do this, but I have a friend that's been in a tremendous amount of pain in her throat since she's had strokes, and no one can seem to fix the problem. So if there's any stroke specialists out there listening and you have a minute, just give us an email if you wouldn't mind giving that to them. Ag.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. Helloullershiroad.com thank you.
- [43:03]
Dana Goldberg
I really appreciate it.
- [43:04]
Alison Gill
Or even ent even. Maybe it's an ear, nose, and throat.
- [43:07]
Dana Goldberg
Absolutely. Or an ENT specialist who somehow even may have seen patients that have had horrible throat problems after strokes. It's just a shot in the dark, but I told her that I would give a shout out to see if we could.
- [43:19]
Alison Gill
Yeah, awesome. Email. Helloillarshiroad.com Put in the subject line stroke specialist so that we can pick it out pretty easily from the thousands of emails that we get every. I'm kidding. It's like 14. But I want to be able to recognize it quickly.
- [43:34]
Dana Goldberg
I really appreciate it.
- [43:35]
Alison Gill
Yeah, we do get to all of them. I just want that one to stand out. And thank you. Yeah, thank you for that. And also, I'm so excited about February 9th, my friend.
- [43:44]
Dana Goldberg
Thank you. I am, too. I will be honest with you, listeners. I'm not usually very. I don't know, I sometimes talk about my personal life, but I've had a really hard week. AG knows, and I don't know if anyone can tell inflection in my voice over the last few podcasts, but I would love to have everyone out in New York who can make the show for February 9th is gonna be at the Greenroom 42. It's a 7:00 show. You can get tickets on their site. I just could really. I need to do what I do that brings me joy and that's bringing you joy. And so I would really love if we had some audience members if you're in the area, please come out.
- [44:22]
Alison Gill
It's gonna be amazing. And like you said, tickets start at like $19 or something like that. It's amazing.
- [44:27]
Dana Goldberg
Yeah, it's super reasonable. $19.
- [44:29]
Alison Gill
You can't do anything for $19. A New York. You can't even stand on a corner for $19. Unless you're also going to get hit by then. That costs $19.
- [44:38]
Dana Goldberg
Yeah. Or 3 ounces of mixed nuts.
- [44:45]
Alison Gill
Yeah. Thank you so much. And we'll see if we can get anybody out there to give advice and counsel about your friend as well. And I'm looking forward to that February 9th show. I'm going to do my best to make it out. I'm not sure yet. I will keep everybody informed. There's pool people coming to maybe dig a giant hole in my backyard. I'm not sure if I have to be here. I don't know if I have a house. I'm trying to work it out.
- [45:06]
Dana Goldberg
Well, if you do go, let's do a meet and greet with Patreon. I would love to. So if that's more incentive to get you out there, and I would love to do it, we could even, you know, it's a 7 o'clock show. It's gonna be an hour, hour and a half, be done by 8:30. We could even do a meet and greet with our Patreon after the show on the 9th. I mean, it's doable.
- [45:25]
Alison Gill
Yeah. Are you gonna be there for one night?
- [45:27]
Dana Goldberg
No, I'll be there the entire week.
- [45:29]
Alison Gill
Okay, well, yeah, then there are plenty of nights. Yeah. Sweet. All right, we'll see if I can work that out. Now? Now everyone's gonna be mad if I can't make it.
- [45:38]
Dana Goldberg
No, it's okay. No promises, but I will definitely be in New York. AG may not. I promise I'll be there.
- [45:43]
Alison Gill
Dana will definitely be there. All right, thank you so much, everybody. Until tomorrow, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, and take care of your mental health, please. I've been AG and I've been dg. And them's the beans.
- [45:54]
Dana Goldberg
Refried beans. I like refried beans.