Refried Beans | Miscarriages Of Justice (feat. Jena Friedman) | 6/09/2025

Summary

The Daily Beans — "Refried Beans | Miscarriages Of Justice" (feat. Jena Friedman)

Episode Date: June 9, 2025 (Aired June 14, 2026)
Hosts: Allison Gill ("AG"), Dana Goldberg
Guest: Jena Friedman (comedian, writer, activist)

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Overview

This special "Refried Beans" episode of The Daily Beans reflects on pressing issues from June 2025, connecting the political and social events of that time with today’s ongoing struggles. The episode is packed with sharp, witty commentary, breaking political news, legal analysis, and a spirited interview with comedian and activist Jena Friedman, focusing particularly on state overreach, immigration, reproductive justice, LGBTQ+ activism, and the erosion of civil liberties.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. LGBTQ+ Advocacy & Pride Month Features

• Dana’s LGBTQ+ Heroes Project: Dana shares details of her daily social media posts celebrating queer icons throughout Pride Month, encouraging listeners to spread the word ("Share the stories so we can make sure the bigots know that we're not going anywhere." – Dana, 03:17).
• Harvey Milk Tribute: The hosts mark Harvey Milk Day with playful banter and reminders of Milk’s impact and the importance of LGBTQ+ visibility.
• Lighthearted Moments: Fun tales of rainbow-unicorn floats and near-misses while making pride content.

2. Transphobia in Sports and Simone Biles’ Defense

• Simone Biles vs. Riley Gaines Feud (04:11–07:11):
  • AG and Dana recount a recent social media clash: after anti-trans comments by swimmer Riley Gaines, Olympic champion Simone Biles publicly condemned Gaines’ behavior, defending inclusivity in sports.
  • Memorable Quote:
    • AG paraphrasing Simone Biles: “You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive... but instead, you bully them.” (05:15)
  • Analysis of Gaines’ platform as rooted in resentment and right-wing opportunism: “She has found a platform that is so bigoted ... she will not stop. I think she's getting paid now to do it.” (Dana, 06:08)

3. Immigration, Law Enforcement, and Racism

• Abrego Garcia Case (07:53–10:23):

  • Discussion of trumped-up charges against Abrego Garcia, media smear campaigns, prejudicial law enforcement press conferences, and the legal implications of public officials making prejudicial statements.
  • “If there was [a vindictive prosecution case], it's this one." (AG, 09:37)

• San Antonio Police & Jonathan Joss’s Murder

  • Police issued a premature statement discounting hate crime motives, then walked it back amid backlash (10:23–12:03).
  • “We shouldn't have done it. No, you shouldn't have done it.” (Dana, 11:14)
  • Explanation of San Antonio’s system: hate crime enhancements are applied only during sentencing—not charging.

4. SCOTUS Rulings & Federal Chaos

• Mixed Judicial Bag (12:06–14:21):

  • Bad news: Supreme Court allows DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency) access to private social security data and to keep such records hidden.
  • Good news: Court upholds DC's ban on high-capacity firearm magazines and affirms Pennsylvania law allowing provisional ballots for mail-in voters.
  • “That's a win for voting rights, not just Democrats.” (Dana, 13:02)

• Federal Employee Shakeups:

  • The Trump administration’s mass firings of federal staff have led to lawsuits and forced rehires, costing resources and undermining government efficiency.

• Tesla Robo Taxi Records Controversy:

  • Tesla’s attempts to suppress public records in Austin, Texas regarding their robo taxi pilot, signaling further transparency battles with state officials.

5. Executive Overreach & Militarization

• National Guard Mobilization in LA (16:27–19:46):

  • Trump mobilizes National Guard against peaceful protests in LA (without invoking the Insurrection Act), using seldom-invoked “protective power” statutes.
  • Analysis of constitutional boundaries, state/local pushback, and the chilling effect of militarized immigrant policing:
    • “Immigrants are our neighbors ... Sending in militarized thugs ... is prima facie tyranny.” (AG, 18:38)

• ICE Quotas & Detainment:

  • Reports of mass detainment—including families and even U.S. citizens—during routine ICE check-ins.
  • “They’re not rounding up criminals... they're just trying to round up anyone they think may not be a U.S. citizen.” (AG, 22:17)

• Abuses & Erosion of Rights:

  • Parallels drawn with Abu Ghraib, highlighting the sadistic pleasure visible in some law enforcement conduct:
    • “The joy that these people seem to have ... it's disgusting.” (Dana, 22:49)

6. Hate Crimes and Community Risks

• Boulder, Colorado Attack:
  • An Egyptian man faces over 100 criminal counts after a violent, anti-Semitic attack on a pro-Israel event. The context of growing fear and the federal response are discussed (23:19–24:20).

7. Congressional Hypocrisy: Clean Energy & Billionaire Bailouts

• Republican Regret & Flip-Flopping (24:20–27:59):
  • House Republicans who recently passed a bill undermining clean energy now lament its harms—hoping the Senate will bail them out before facing angry constituents.
  • “You already pass the fucking bill, you cowards.” (Dana, 26:15)

8. Abortion, Miscarriage, and Reproductive Justice

• West Virginia Prosecutor’s Threats (28:02–29:45):
  • County prosecutor warns women could be charged for miscarriages, and encourages them to report miscarriages to police.
  • Dana and AG advocate “malicious compliance”: “If you're in West Virginia and you have a period, give them a call ... gum up the system.” (AG, 29:20)
  • Quote: “Every woman in West Virginia, you should call law enforcement every time you have a period.” (AG, 29:21)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “Simone Biles was basically like, why are you attacking these communities? You need to raise them up ... Instead, you bully them.” — Dana, 04:47
• “Immigrants are our neighbors... Sending in militarized thugs to arrest our community members ... is prima facie tyranny.” — AG, 18:38
• “If you’re in West Virginia and you have a period, give them a call ... gum up the system with malicious compliance.” — AG, 29:20
• [On protesting ICE] “Maybe there’s just a way to creatively stop them in their tracks.” — Jena Friedman, 47:50
• “We need to be doubling down on patriotism ... Taking back the American flag, reminding people what it stands for, like all of the amendments that ICE is violating at every turn.” — Jena Friedman, 43:41

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Extended Interview: Jena Friedman on Comedy, Free Speech, Border Paranoia, and Creative Resistance

(30:30–54:30)

Jena’s Border Interrogation Experience

• Returning from TED, Jena was questioned both about her profession and whether she made fun of politicians.
• She withheld her real answer out of safety: “Why would you say yes?... That’s not the time to take a stand. You have no control in that situation. The play ... is you just get through and then you talk about it when you’re safe.” (Jena, 35:44)

ICE’s Anti-Free Speech Stance

• Jena references a now-deleted ICE meme equating the need to stop “illegal ideas” at the border, underscoring a chilling erosion of free speech.

Solidarity and Patriotic Resistance

• Jena calls for reclaiming patriotism, citing how the right has co-opted American symbols and the need for progressives to rally around the true values of the country — inclusivity, due process, and constitutional rights.

Protest Tactics & Risks

• Discussion of creative forms of civil disobedience ("good trouble"): jamming ICE tip lines, inundating lawmakers with period reports, and economic boycotts, balanced with caution given risks of protests being exploited or co-opted by provocateurs.
• “When your actual family is being broken apart ... I don’t know what that does to people and how to protect people in this time.” (Jena, 47:50)
• “You don’t have to open the door ... just don’t open your door for them.” (Jena, 50:32)

Plea for Creativity and Vigilance

• Dialogue about the importance of creative, nonviolent protest, and “malicious compliance” as a survival tactic under oppressive legal regimes.
• “Good trouble ... it’s not a biohazard. It’s your civic responsibility.” (Jena, 52:03)

Upcoming Work

• Jena’s comedic special Motherfucker and book Not Funny are promoted. She shares her show dates for Edinburgh Fringe, Detroit, Philly, and Brooklyn.

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Listener Good News & Community Uplift

(55:24–70:53)

• The hosts and listeners share wins, positive stories, activism tips, pet photos, and moments of resilience.
• Dana celebrates raising $1.3 million for Lambda Legal, highlighting LGBTQ+ legal battles.
• The power of community is stressed: “People are fired up.”

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Important Timestamps

• Simone Biles Defends Trans Athletes: 04:11–07:11
• Abrego Garcia Case: 07:53–10:23
• San Antonio Police Walk Back: 10:23–12:03
• SCOTUS Decisions Rundown: 12:06–14:21
• LA National Guard Mobilization: 16:27–19:46
• ICE Raids and Quotas: 21:53–23:07
• Jena Friedman Interview Start: 30:30
• Border Interrogation Story: 32:07–36:49
• Free Speech & ICE Stance: 39:40–43:41
• Creative Protest Tactics: 50:03–52:03

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Tone & Style

• The episode is characteristic of The Daily Beans: witty, candid, deeply empathetic, and politically incisive, featuring a blend of snark and seriousness. AG and Dana, joined by Jena Friedman, bring levity to dire topics while emphasizing action, solidarity, and the importance of humor and hope.

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Summary Takeaways

• Intersectional Threats: Civil liberties are under mounting threat across axes of immigration, reproductive rights, and LGBTQ+ justice.
• Power of Restorative Action: The episode emphasizes creative, legal, and collective responses to state overreach and injustices.
• Community & Vigilance: Listeners are encouraged to support each other, stay informed, and engage in both direct action and local activism—even if sometimes it’s through mischievous, “good trouble.”
• Comedy as Resistance: Jena Friedman's experiences show that humor, when wielded bravely, is both a target for authoritarians and a vital tool for resistance.

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For more info, check out Jena Friedman’s “Motherfucker” special, her book “Not Funny,” and follow her stand-up tour. Visit dailybeanspod.com to submit your own good news, support the podcast, or connect with the growing community of listeners standing up for justice—one snarky bean at a time.

Transcript

[Narrator]

History is messy. It's weird, wild, and anything but boring. Rainy Day Rabbit Holes is a history podcast about unhinged stories that make you stop and ask, wait, is this real life? From crazy disasters and tasty scandals to enlightening and surprising heartwarming tales, we explore the moments where people behave badly and sometimes beautifully. We've got naughty politicians, cultural chaos, and a deep love for the Pacific Northwest, including Bigfoot. It's thoughtful, irreverent, occasionally serious, and always entertaining. Let's fall down the rabbit hole.

[Ag]

MSW Media. MSW Media hey everybody, it's Ag. And welcome to Refried Beans, where we play an episode of the Daily Beans podcast from the same week either one, two or three years ago, so we can see how far we've come. So please enjoy this episode from days gone by and note the date in the intro.

[Dana Goldberg]

Refried beans. I like refried beans. That's why I want to try fried beans, because maybe they're just as good and we're wasting time.

[Ag]

Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Monday, June 9, 2025. Today, Trump and Kegseth mobilized the National Guard against peaceful protesters in Los Angeles County. Abrego Garcia is back on US Soil after being hit with trumped up criminal charges over a 2022 traffic stop in Tennessee. San Antonio police walk back their statements about the murder of Jonathan Joss not being a hate crime. The Trump regime is scrambling to rehire wrongfully terminated federal employees. The Supreme Court has rejected a Republican bid to throw out provisional ballots in Pennsylvania. The high court has also left in place a ban on high capacity firearms. In D.C. a West Virginia prosecutor is warning that women who experience miscarriages could be criminally charged. The Boulder, Colorado suspect, who is already facing nearly 120 criminal charges, appeared in court for a federal hate crime charge. Tesla is seeking to block the city of Austin from releasing records about their robo taxi trial. The supreme court has allowed Doge access to our Social Security data and has allowed Doge to keep records private. And 13 House Republicans urged their colleagues in the Senate to block some climate cuts in the billionaire bailout bill that they voted for. I'm Alison Gill.

[Dana Goldberg]

And I'm Dana Goldberg.

[Ag]

Well, it's Monday. I get.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's what we have for you, everyone. It's Monday.

[Ag]

Thank you. That's the show.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's my show. Thanks for joining us.

[Ag]

Hey, awesome. Gay of the Day today with Harvey Milk.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, my God. Thank you. Obviously, we're recording this on Sunday and it's Harvey Milk day. Listen, for those of you that started following me on Instagram and sharing the stories. You all have been absolutely incredible. And if for some reason you're hearing about this for the first time, I've been putting out an LGBTQ hero every day of the month, for the month of Pride on my Instagram stories and my other social media. But follow me. It's DG comedy. It's going to give you some joy, some education, some inspiration. Share the stories so we can make sure the bigots know that we're not going anywhere. But I love you all. Thank you for supporting this project.

[Ag]

Yeah. And share them far and wide so that everyone can see the last part of every video of Dana in a bathing suit on a giant gay unicorn.

[Dana Goldberg]

Rainbow unicorn floating. Yeah. It was one of my. I almost died getting that. I literally almost drowned getting that photo. But it was worth every bit of it.

[Ag]

Whose idea was that to put that in there?

[Jenna Friedman]

I love it.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, that was mine. Sometimes I have good, creative ideas.

[Ag]

Oh, perfect. And then you feel you fly away on it. Oh, man. It's just so great.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, my God. Allison put this next bit into my veins about Simone Biles. It is giving me life.

[Ag]

Yes. Simone Biles came for Riley Gaines.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, boy.

[Ag]

Okay, so what happened was that Riley Gaines commented on a post from the Minnesota State High School League celebrating their first ever softball state championship. And she commented, Riley Gaines saying, haha, comments off. Lol. To be expected when your star player is a boy. And that's what. She's 25. Riley Gaines. That's what she wrote. Making a reference to Marissa Rothenberger, transgender pitcher on the team. Right. Just dick move. But what it's. What it's. Simone Biles came back.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, she's so good. Simone Biles was basically like, why are you attacking these communities? You need to raise them up. You should be doing something better, even if it's trying to find a solution to this problem. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And of course, Gaines responded. And one of my favorite. My favorite tweets back was Simone Biles saying, why don't you pick on someone your own size? Which would probably be a man, ironically. And I'm sorry, but it made me. Yeah.

[Ag]

Simone Biles, you're truly sick. She said, all of us campaigning because you lost a race. You're straight up sore loser. You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive or create a new avenue where trans feel safe in sports, maybe a transgender category in all sports. But instead, you bully them. One thing's for sure is no one in sports is safe with you around, so. Good.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, I just love it. I love when other CIS athletes come out in support of the trans community and, And. And make the. Literally, Riley Gaines. I.

[Ag]

She.

[Dana Goldberg]

I don't. Has she ever come in first in a race like this?

[Ag]

Explains. I'm just going to ask you to explain who Riley Gaines is, because a lot of folks might not know.

[Dana Goldberg]

Okay. I'm hoping that I remember this story correctly.

[Ag]

Definitely came in fifth in a swim meet or something.

[Dana Goldberg]

It was a fifth in a swim meet, and it was against the swimmer Leah Thomas. I believe this all started with Leah Thomas, and it was talking about how Riley Gaines had a problem with Leah Thomas swimming because she said that Leah Thomas was taking records from, quote, unquote, female athletes. Even though Lia Thomas is a female athlete, she just happens to be a trans female athlete. So basically, this is how this started. She became a sweetheart to the right and Trump and all of these bigots, and she comes out talking about how all these trans women are taking records from CIS women, which in numbers is not necessarily factual. Like, the way she's skewing this is really, really misleading. But Riley Gaines herself never was a number one swimmer. Never had the potential, in my opinion, to be a number one swimmer. And so she has found a platform that is so bigoted. And now that everyone on the right has just puffed her ego up, she will not stop. I think she's getting paid now to do it. A lot of talking spots. She's become their little, you know, their little poster child for this. And thank God, Simone Biles was like, I've had enough. I've had enough.

[Jenna Friedman]

Yeah.

[Ag]

And like, I am. I have zero fear of sharing a bathroom with a trans person. There is no record of a trans person attacking anyone in a restroom. What I'm afraid of is something that happened this past weekend that was pointed out, I think, on TikTok or Instagram, where somebody dressed up as an ICE agent snatched somebody up off the street and attempted to rape her.

[Dana Goldberg]

Jesus Christ.

[Ag]

That's who we should be afraid of.

[Dana Goldberg]

Absolutely. I did not hear that story. It makes my blood boil.

[Ag]

Yeah, me too. We've got a lot to get to today. A lot of stuff happened over the weekend, so we're going to start with some quick hits.

[Jenna Friedman]

And to make a long story short.

[Ag]

All right, so for the latest on Abrego Garcia, you may have heard he's back on US soil after being charged. You check out the new Unjustified episode. We go over all of it. These Charges are totally bogus. There are a bunch of huge inconsistencies in the government documents. That press conference by Pam Bondi was wildly prejudicial. You know, all the stuff people kind of wished Merrick Garland would do is going to be really bad for the Department of Justice, I think, in this case, because you can't get up there and say, we've arrested him, he was smuggling people. She was kind of mixing up smuggling with trafficking. Trafficking people, you're doing, you're taking people against their will. Smuggling. It's, it's bringing him in from Mexico. He wasn't right.

[Dana Goldberg]

You also have lawyers admitting they made a mistake and that he fucked up. Why isn't that like the biggest thing that you would lead with?

[Ag]

That's what they're trying to circumvent here by bringing these charges. And there's inconsistencies in the paperwork. It's ridiculous. And again, we go over all of it. And also, by the way, I wrote up something. A lot of people kind of flew under the radar this weekend with everything that was going on. But Judge Sinis in the Abrego Garcia case unsealed a bunch of documents showing what the Trump administration was doing during the time of their investigation, quote, unquote, into Abrego Garcia. So you can check that out, military.com but that wildly prejudicial press conference where Pam Bondi was like, and you know, we're going to stop these smugglers from grooming children to become full fledged members of MS.13. None of that. He did. He's not charged with anything like that. But to say it in the same breath in a press conference is going to come up in pre trial motions if she doesn't drop the charges. Charges first.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yep.

[Ag]

Like, like they had to drop against Ross Baraka, the mayor of Newark, and, and hopefully Abrego Garcia sues the out of Bam Bondi for this. But it was what you'll see a motion that said here, here are a whole bunch of exhibits like Stephen Miller tweeting this criminal, terrorist, smuggler, trafficker, blah, blah, blah. When you have the chief of staff, dhs, putting all that about you before you even gone to trial, you're tainting a jury pool. You are being prejudicial that it's really hard to get a vindictive or a malicious prosecution case and, and to have your charges thrown out. But if there was one, it's this one. So we'll absolutely, we'll be keeping an eye on it. So check out the latest episode of Unjustified okay, thanks, Allison.

[Dana Goldberg]

I don't know if you saw. I'm sure you did. San Antonio police apologized Thursday for a premature statement declaring there was no evidence of a hate crime in the death of Jonathan Joss. Now, the damage was done, but at least they walked back the statement. Remember, they said that the same day it happened, that there was no evidence of a hate crime, but then there was a massive backlash, and the police apologized, and I quote, shouldn't have done it. It was way too soon before we had real information, and I will own that. That's. McManus, by the way, went on to say it was way too early in the process for any statement of that nature to be issued. We understand that many in the LGBTQ community are feeling anxious and concerned. A lot of it has to do with that pre. Premature statement that we released. And again, I own that. We shouldn't have done it. No, you shouldn't have done it.

[Ag]

No. Yeah. I'm sorry. Apology not accepted.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's what I say when the damage is done. Now you've got all these people going, it's not a hate crime. The police said so. And then some of them just walk away and never are open to another opinion or a correction on that.

[Ag]

Yeah, and here's the thing to remember. In San Antonio, he won't be charged with a hate crime because they don't charge hate crimes in San Antonio.

[Dana Goldberg]

Right.

[Ag]

They have hate crime enhancements to sentencing. So you won't see hate crime come up until there's a conviction and this person is sentenced, and then they have a hate crime.

[Dana Goldberg]

Wow.

[Ag]

Enhancement. So if somebody in the right wing is like, look, no hate crime was charged, you dummy. Well, that's because they don't charge hate crimes. They do hate crime sentence enhancements, and I'm sure that that will be included in the sentencing recommendation. At least it should be, anyway. Yeah, I'm sorry. That first impression, Right?

[Dana Goldberg]

That's exactly it. It's hard to come back from that.

[Ag]

It's hard to come back. All right, next up, the Supreme Court docket was busy last week. Bad news and good news. We'll do bad news first. They're allowing DOGE to have access to our private Social Security data, and they're letting them keep their records private under FOIA in that CREW lawsuit. Which doesn't bode well for my lawsuit against doge. For foia. No, but we press on. At least maybe we know how to tailor our responses. All three liberal justices, by the way, disagreed with that.

[Dana Goldberg]

I do have more good News, by the way, from the Supreme Court, which is surprising, is that they left in place a long standing gun restriction in the District of Columbia that bans magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition. And they rejected a Republican appeal and left in place a Pennsylvania court decision allowing people to cast provisional ballots when their mail in votes are rejected for not following technical procedures in state law. That is a win for, for Democrats.

[Ag]

Yes. And remember, Supreme Court didn't decide that. They just didn't take the appeal.

[Dana Goldberg]

And by the way, I want to take that back. That's a win for voting rights, not just Democrats, because I'm sure some Republicans are actually getting screwed by this as well.

[Ag]

Absolutely. Especially if you're a mail in voter, that's military, that's Republican, and you cast a provisional ballot because you didn't put the date right or you didn't sign it right. And are you signed in the witness box instead of the voter box and then you can't vote. So. Yeah, very good point. Speaking of Doge, though. This is from the Washington Post. Across the government, the Trump administration is scrambling to rehire many federal employees dismissed under Doge's staff slashing initiatives. After wiping out entire offices and in some cases imperiling key services such as weather forecasting and drug approval processes, Trump officials are trying to recover not only people who were fired, but thousands and thousands of experienced senior staffers who opted out taking that fork in the road exit. As the administration rolls out a second resignation offer, thousands more staff are returning in fits and starts as a conflicting patchwork of court decisions to overturn some of Trump's large scale firings go through. And that of course costs money and time and is wasteful. So when they call it the Department of Government Efficiency, it's the opposite. Yes.

[Dana Goldberg]

Well said by the way. Okay everyone, this is from Reuters. Tesla's trying to prevent the city of Austin, Texas from releasing public records to Reuters involving the EV makers planned launch of self driving robo taxis in the city this month. Okay, these robocars that you're seeing a lot in a lot of places that freak me out a little, but I did write in one of them. Now, the news agency in February requested communications between Tesla and Austin officials over the previous two years. The request followed CEO Elon Musk's announcement in January that Tesla would launch fare collecting robo taxis on Austin public streets. Tesla wrote the Attorney General saying releasing the records would irreparably harm Tesla. That doesn't sound like the records are very fucking good.

[Ag]

Yeah, whenever you're like, don't release those records because it's devastating to my business.

[Dana Goldberg]

I feel like that's from what was the flyer.

[Ag]

Liar.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yes. I object, your honor. Why? Because it's devastating in my case.

[Ag]

Yeah, that's why it's where I pulled it from, honestly.

[Dana Goldberg]

Texas state law requires the attorney general's office to decide within 45 business days, which would be next week.

[Ag]

So, gosh, I wonder what Ken Paxton's gonna do.

[Dana Goldberg]

I would imagine he's not going to release the data.

[Ag]

These laboratories for autocracy. And now we're starting to see it nationwide and we're going to talk about that. But we have to take a quick break, so everybody stick around. We'll be right back after these messages. We'll be right back.

[Narrator]

History is messy. It's weird, wild, and anything but boring. Rainy Day Rabbit Holes is a history podcast about unhinged stories that make you stop and ask, wait, is this real life? From crazy disasters and tasty scandals to enlightening and surprising heartwarming tales, we explore the moments where people behave badly and sometimes beautifully. We've got naughty politicians, cultural chaos, and a deep love for the Pacific Northwest, including Bigfoot. It's thoughtful, irreverent, occasionally serious, and always entertaining. Let's fall down the rabbit hole.

[Ag]

MSW Media. All right, everybody, welcome back. Let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes. First up from Chris Mirasola at Lawfare. And this is why I love the experts and that we should kind of wait to see what they have to say about it. But he's writing for Lawfare that late yesterday, President Donald Trump signed a proclamation mobilizing 2,000 National Guard troops to respond to protests against ICE immigration raids in Los Angeles. This is not an invocation of the Insurrection Act. Instead, the president has relied on a far more limited, though also quite old, theory of inherent presidential authority known as the protective power. In tandem with this theory of constitutional authority, the president has also relied on an emergency statutory authority, title 10, US code section 12406, to mobilize national Guard personnel to undertake the duties authorized under the protective power. Now, the law Trump is using does not allow the National Guard to participate in law enforcement. It does not. So on the ground, we have to hold them accountable for doing anything more than fetching water for ICE agents or doing paperwork. So that's me. Mirasola says in the days to come, the public must be laser focused on seeing the extent to which Secretary Hegseth adheres to these historically recognized limitations. Now, Governor Newsom and Mayor Bass have condemned the mobilization of the Guard because these protests are peaceful. The only people being violent are the ICE officers. I would like to see Newsom maybe do more, but I'm not sure that he can. I'm not enough of an expert to know what else he can do. Can he sue? Maybe sign an executive order to stop this, at least temporarily, while it works its way up through the courts? He'd lose, probably, but, you know, do the thing. I don't know. I really don't know. But I want to see people get creative here, because allowing the National Guard is just going to foment violence from them. This is tyranny. Like, plain and simple.

[Dana Goldberg]

Absolutely.

[Ag]

Immigrants are our neighbors. They're our friends. They work alongside us. They pay taxes, they commit crimes at lower rates than citizens sending in militarized thugs to arrest our community members who are guilty of nothing more than contributing to a vibrant and thriving society is prima facie tyranny. And. And, you know, they're only doing this, Dana, to provoke the unwarranted need for military mobilization and the invocation of emergency powers against the people. So I will be out there this Saturday at the no Kings March, and I hope to see everyone there, too.

[Dana Goldberg]

I have a feeling people will be. And I just want to make a little connection here. If you don't think this isn't connection to Newsom saying he's going to withhold federal fund, his federal taxes because Trump was threatening him, you were sadly mistaken. Trump has been looking for an excuse to use this. And California, he wants to have control of that state. He really wants control. So he was just waiting for a reason for all this. And I hope that they can stop it, because it's fucking scary. I'm in New York right now, thank God, but all my friends are in Los Angeles. So, please, if you are, be careful, be careful out there, but make sure you're paying attention to what they're doing and all the constitutional crises we have going on.

[Ag]

Yeah. Before we get to the next story, I want to ask you real quick what it's like on the Vibe. The vibe in New York with the mayoral debate that just happened.

[Dana Goldberg]

Honestly, I don't know if I could even feel that. I haven't really been out in the streets to see if there's any sort of protest going on. And I'm pretty close to Union Square, so normally they sort of walk down 14th, but I'll definitely let you know if I hear anything. Washington Square park is around the corner, and usually they end up going down there. So if anything happens, I thought Mum,

[Ag]

Donnie and Landers did a, a really good job. I know the United Auto Workers are kind of supporting him. AOC has endorsed Mamdani for, for mayor. They've got some really good candidates.

[Dana Goldberg]

Thank God. We need some good candidates. Lord knows we've had some New York,

[Ag]

Jesus Christ going on.

[Dana Goldberg]

By the way, in a related story to the one we just talked about in Los Angeles. This is from CBS and something that kicked off one of the peaceful protests in la. Many undocumented immigrants who went to their Immigration and Customs Enforcement check in appointments at a federal building in Los Angeles this week. They were taken into custody and brought to the basement, held there some overnight. That's according to immigration lawyers and family members. Now, it was unclear how many people were affected, but the attorneys told CBS News hundreds of immigrants were detained, dozens in the basement in rooms that could fit up to 30 at a time. It's basically an underground prison. That's what that is. Now. One attorney, Lisbeth Mateo, said ICE officials slated several of her clients for check ins at the Edward R. Royball Federal Building in downtown la, but when they showed up on Tuesday, they were detained and immediately escorted to the basement. Mateo said a couple and their two children, one of whom is a US Citizen, spent the night in a room with no beds and limited access to food and water. Mateo said the father had previously been issued a stay of removal barring him from deportation when he and his family were detained anyway. His wife was released Wednesday evening along with their children since she needed medical attention due to a high risk pregnancy. He was still being detained early Friday. By the way, and I quote, this is something I've never seen before, she said. Under the first Trump administration, I represented clients with very difficult cases, but never anything like this. Under any other circumstances, we would have been released. And a lot of this goes back to that. I don't know if it was a memo or a story, but there they have got a quota, 3,000 arrests a day. 3,000 arrests a day. That's what they're doing.

[Ag]

Yeah. So they're not rounding up criminals.

[Dana Goldberg]

Nope. They're just trying to round up anyone that they think may not be a U.S. citizen. And a lot of people are getting caught.

[Ag]

They accidentally arrested a U.S. marshal in Phoenix this weekend. Like just I would be very interested to know what directives these officers have been given, what they've been told, what they've been threatened with if they don't meet their quotas. It's frightening. I would love to see that information

[Dana Goldberg]

and some of these, the videos, man, these officers are taking way too much fucking pleasure in hurting humans. I don't care if they think they are legal or not. The damage, the excitement, the joy that these people seem to have when they're close up with that camera, it's disgusting.

[Ag]

Reminds me of Abu Ghraib. Remember that?

[Dana Goldberg]

Yes, I do.

[Ag]

That's.

[Dana Goldberg]

Ugh.

[Ag]

Ugh. And I think this administration knows psychologically that they can bring out the worst in people.

[Dana Goldberg]

Absolutely.

[Ag]

All right, from cnn, The Egyptian man accused of carrying out the anti Semitic attack in Boulder, Colorado, appeared in court Friday afternoo on a federal hate crime charge related to the attack that left several people injured. The court appearance comes a day after Mohammed Solomon, who's 45, was charged with 118 counts, including 28 counts of first degree attempted murder after he allegedly used a makeshift flamethrower and Molotov cocktails to set people on fire during a downtown event held to support Israeli hostages in Gaza. The firebombing attack occurred on the eve of Shavuot, which is a Jewish holiday. The attack, which happened less than two weeks after a separate anti Semitic attack in Washington, D.C. which we covered here, that's the one where the two Israeli embassy staff members were shot dead, has sparked widespread fear across the Jewish community. Now, he was remanded into custody, and he has a preliminary hearing set for June 18th.

[Dana Goldberg]

If you're following the story, thanks so much, Alison. That one is a tough one to hear, but we are moving on from NBC, and the reckoning is here. But honestly, it's a little too late. Thirteen House Republicans who supported President Donald Trump's big, beautiful bill. They sent a letter urging Senate GOP leaders to scale back some of its clean energy cuts, sparking pushback from conservative hardliners. You already pass the fucking bill, you cowards. Not in Senate. In the House, the unusual criticism of their own bill indicates. Of their own bill, yes, Indicates a modicum of regret by the GOP lawmakers whose votes were critical to pass the bill in the House by a narrow margin last month. By the way, and I quote, this is what they said. While we were proud to have worked to ensure that the bill did not include a full repeal of the clean energy tax credits, we remain deeply concerned by several provisions. That's what Republicans in the letter, led by Rep. Jen Keegan said, and Rep. Kiggins is a Republican in Virginia, they cited provisions that, quote, abruptly terminate Several credits just 60 days after enactment for projects that have not yet begun construction and restrictions to transferability yes. This approach jeopardizes ongoing development, discourages long term investment, and could significantly delay or cancel energy infrastructure projects across the country. This is what the group of House Republicans said when they criticize the legislation that they voted for and I guarantee didn't fucking read, while suggesting some changes to mitigate the harm it could cause. Now, Kiggins, like most of the signatories, represents a competitive district that Democrats are targeting in the 2026 election. Other politically vulnerable members include Reps. Brian Fitzpatrick, a Republican in Pennsylvania. Juan Kiskamani.

[Ag]

Yeah, Siskamani.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, thank you. Juan Siskamani, he's a Republican in Arizona. Mike Lawler, Republican, New York. Don Bacon, a Republican. Nebraska. They're all Republicans. Gabe Evans is in color. Young Kim is in California. David Valadao is in California as well. Rob Bresnahan in Pennsylvania. And Tom King is a Republican from New Jersey. The remaining three who hold comparably safer seats, Reps. Mark Amadei, he's a Republican. Nevada, Andrew Garbarino. Garbarino, he's a Republican in North. I'm laughing at myself, you all now, because half of these, I feel like I'm just like sounding them out on air live, which is what's happening, by the way. And Nick Lalota, he's a republic from New York. Now, Gabarino, missing the vote. He missed the vote completely, but he praised the bill and said he was about to vote yes and didn't make it in time. By the way, that bill, it passed 215 to 214 in an early morning vote. And by early morning, it was the dead of the night. You know what would have worked better? Not voting for the bill. Dude, all of you people, all of you, you should have read it. You should have known better.

[Ag]

These are all the same people, by the way, in these swing districts who are just scared shitless right now that voted against the Biden inflation reduction act, which is where a lot of these climate provisions come in, but then said, look what I did and took credit for the these infrastructure projects in their districts. And now they voted for the billionaire bailout bill to cancel these in their districts. This Biden era awesome projects. And now they're writing a letter to send the Senate saying, hey, I know we passed this, but could, could you not.

[Dana Goldberg]

I know. Seriously, that's exactly what's happening.

[Ag]

Oh, that's the reckoning we've been talking about, that they would have to face their constituents at some point. Anyway, thanks for that story. All right, everybody, it's time for some good trouble. What are you guys doing? All right. So a little background on Good Trouble today from cnn. Amid a constantly changing reproductive landscape, one West Virginia prosecutor is warning West Virginians who have miscarriages in his state that they could get in trouble with the law. Raleigh county prosecuting attorney Tom Truman says that although he personally won't prosecute someone for a miscarriage, he made the suggestion out of an abundance of caution after hearing from other prosecutors who might. Truman even suggests that people might want to let local law enforcement know if they've had a miscarriage. Several reproductive law experts say people around the country have indeed faced charges related to miscarriages, but they still wouldn't recommend reaching out to law enforcement. Well, here at the Good Trouble section of the Daily Beans, we do recommend you reach out to law enforcement. If you're in West Virginia and you have a period, give them a call, let them know that you've had your period and you just want to put it on record to make sure that it's not a miscarriage. That's the good trouble today. Don't do it kind of specifically for West Virginians. Jess Piper suggested this too, over.

[Dana Goldberg]

We love Jess.

[Ag]

I do, too. On Blue Sky. So, yeah, every woman in West Virginia, you should call law enforcement every time you have a period, gum up the system with malicious compliance, she says. I appreciate that very much. All right, everybody, that's your Good trouble. We have a great interview with Jenna Friedman right after this break, followed by the good news. Stick around. We'll be right back after these messages. We'll be right back.

[Narrator]

History is messy. It's weird, wild and anything but boring. Rainy Day Rabbit Holes is a history podcast about unhinged stories that make you stop and ask, wait, is this real life? From crazy disasters and tasty scandals to enlightening and surprising heartwarming tales, we explore the moments where people behave badly and sometimes beautifully. We've got naughty politicians, cultural chaos and a deep love for the Pacific Northwest, including Bigfoot. It's thoughtful, irreverent, occasionally serious, and always entertaining. Let's fall down the rabbit hole.

[Ag]

MSW Media.

[Dana Goldberg]

Refried beans.

[Ag]

I like refried beans. Hey, everybody. Welcome back. I'm excited. Today we're going to talk to a good friend. She's been on the podcast before, Oscar nominated writer of Borat, subsequent movie, film director, author, comedian. She's performed standup on the Late show with Stephen Colbert, Conan o', Brien a field producer for the Daily show with Jon Stewart, and she's taking her new show, Motherfucker to Scotland in August Please welcome Jenna Friedman. Hi, Jenna.

[Jenna Friedman]

Hi. It's so. And thank you for having me. Yeah, I know it will maybe sound like I'm running a daycare in the background, but you kind of are.

[Ag]

So.

[Jenna Friedman]

I have two toddlers just running around and screaming. They're about to go. I was gonna say be put down, but for people who don't have kids, it doesn't sound good. It's also code for for a nap.

[Ag]

Go the fuck to sleep. Right.

[Jenna Friedman]

Yeah.

[Ag]

Well, I'm so glad to have you here. And the. And the reason that we. Because we had you. We talked about your book the last time.

[Jenna Friedman]

When was I on it was.

[Ag]

It was the day we found out that RFK Jr had a brain worm.

[Jenna Friedman]

Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. So we talked about Tim Buller times.

[Ag]

I know, the salad days, the brain worm days. But we talked about your book, Not Funny, you know, released with Simon and Schuster. A much needed book, it's been called. And I completely agree. But the reason we wanted to bring you back today, first of all, all of the stuff that's going on in California and Minneapolis, you know, with these ice raids out cities across the country, but you had tried to return to the United States and you were asked about your jokes. Talk a little bit about that.

[Jenna Friedman]

So I was coming back from performing comedy at ted, which already sounds like a lie. I didn't know that the TED conferences have comedy. They do apparently have like one or two comedians every year when they do their big conferences. And so they had asked me to do comedy at ted and I have like a comedic TED Talk actually coming out July 18th. But I was in the Vancouver airport and I didn't know what TED was. It's like a week long conference. You're out every night. I was like having a nice time, not sleeping. So I was. This is all just a setup that I was like a little off my guard. And when I was in the Vancouver airport, I went past security and apparently US Border patrol is stationed in the Vancouver airport, which I didn't realize. I thought if they. I would see them in la. But there's a section of the Vancouver airport that is actually like US soil. I mean, or it's not maybe US soil, but it's like it's like officially the United States or whatever. So all this to say when I encountered Border patrol, I just thought he was like airport security or something at first. And so I gave them my passport. They were like, what were you doing in Canada? I said I was at ted and he asked, were you there? For work. And I have had situations in the past where they want to make sure that I'm not violating a work visa if I'm getting paid in a foreign country. So I just said no. I was. I was performing comedy unpaid. They didn't. They don't pay the performers. That's a whole separate conversation. But then he was like, oh, you're a comedian? I said, yes. He goes, what do you joke about? And this is really embarrassing to admit, but I actually, like, said everything other than airport security. I don't know why I, like, flirted with him or something. I just, again, I was, like, not really sleeping, and I was kind of just off my game and everything, but

[Ag]

bombs on an airplane.

[Jenna Friedman]

I know, I know. It was so dumb. And he didn't. I mean, I guess he didn't even know I was trying to be funny. He just looked at me confused, which I. I, like, don't read as a comedian. So I get that. And then he goes, what do you joke about? And I kind of checked out. I looked at a shirt and it said U.S. border Patrol. And I quickly realized that's who I was talking to. And I was trying to figure out what to say. And in my mind, I was like, do I. Do I say, like, I can't say what. I can't say that I'm a political comedian. Do I say that I like. Like I'm a sex. Come. I don't.

[Ag]

I didn't know what to say before periods and menopause.

[Jenna Friedman]

Well, now I know what to say. Now I know what to say next time. But I. I said nothing. And then he goes, do you make fun of politicians? And it's very important for me to get the exact wording right, because, you know, this is a story that happened, and I want to make sure that I'm not. That I'm, like, completely factual in every sense. But he said, do you make fun of politicians? And I posted about it. I didn't post my response at first because it. It was like. So I. I didn't. So I said, no. I've had friends kind of talk about it. After I posted it. My first instinct was to text two of my friends who don't look like Ann Romney. My one friend who is Muslim and Iranian, and comment was coming back from Ted. And I was like, FYI, don't tell them you're a comedian. And then I texted another friend who's a political comic who's not white. And then I was like, I can't not post about this because this Is crazy, but it's also really scary as like a woman on the Internet to tell a story of something because then ultimately you're just kind of exposing yourself and being vulnerable online, which is terrifying. And so I did post about it. I didn't say my response, which wasn't important to the larger point. But then now I've been talking about it a little bit more. Yeah, I said no because why would you say yes? I mean, why would anyone that's. I don't believe that's the time to take a stand. Because it's literally your word against someone else's. There's no oversight, there's no accountability. They don't have cameras. They could just not like you and plant drugs on you or just say anything they want. You're not. You have no control in that situation. The play, I think, which I did, which I didn't even think about at the time, is you just get through and then you talk about it when you're like, safe. But yeah, I have a toddler at home and I just was like, I gotta get home. And so I told him no, and he let me through right away. It wasn't like, personal. He didn't recognize me. It just. He was like, literally only following orders. It seemed like, wow. Yeah.

[Ag]

The co host of the Beans had a friend coming in from Canada and when they were asked what they thought of Donald Trump, they said, well, not a fan. And now apparently they've been banned from entering the United States.

[Jenna Friedman]

So that's someone you know.

[Ag]

That was someone that our co host knows. Yeah.

[Jenna Friedman]

Yeah.

[Ag]

And so, yeah, that's either that or carry some Joe Biden jokes around in your pocket, you know, just to have on you.

[Jenna Friedman]

Right.

[Ag]

But I mean that. I totally agree. That is not the time to take a stand. The way to get the message out is to make it back and then like you said, then tell everyone.

[Jenna Friedman]

I mean, it's been like a good creative muse. I wrote a New Yorker piece of making fun of customs. I have a bit in my show. The opening of my show is all about that. So, like, it's given me material and I. People are like, I'm sorry that happened to you. And I. It didn't affect me at all. Like, it was jarring. It felt like it was a scene from the Handmaid's Tale, like a flashback I was watching. But it's so not about me. It's just. Oh. Also. So when I got back, I reached out to a friend who works for Adam Schiff, and he sent me, apparently so this happened April 11, and on April 10, I posted a me, a meme online that I can show it to you. They actually took it down. I don't know when they took it down, but it was. It seems so fake that I actually, like, I'm so neurotic anyway, but just like, paranoid about, like, not being believed or like, posting misinformation. Because there's so much misinformation everywhere that when someone sends me something, it's, like, hard, you know, I have to just, like, make sure that it's legit before I disseminate it. But they posted a meme that was like, if it crosses the border illegally, it's our responsibility to stop it. And it was like, drugs, weapons, something else. And then ideas and Politico actually reported on that. ICE had posted it and then they took it down. But in the context of what I experienced, it made total sense that if you're seeing that meme, yes, stop ideas at the border. Stop anti American ideas at the border. Which would be like, I guess, I mean, I think making fun of politicians is like the most American thing you can do. But if you're just an employee of, you know, the US Customs and Border Patrol, that's, you know, that he. It didn't seem. I think it's important as I rant, sorry to say that this guy, it was not personal. He was not just fucking with me. He wasn't white, for what it's worth, like, he wasn't like a white Trump guy. He just was an employee following orders. And yeah, that to me is actually scarier. I want to see if I can find it and send it to you.

[Ag]

That's really weird. Yeah, I know we talked about that post that was taken down. Oh, you've talked about it on the, on the show when it happened. But I mean, it was what, two, three months ago? Yeah, but, yeah, that. That's scary. Like, is.

[Jenna Friedman]

He.

[Ag]

Does. Does this guy, this Border Patrol agent, did he have to ask you that and that's why he did it? Can he decide not to ask people that? Like, that's what's, you know, I think is interesting. Are they monitoring what these guys ask people when they come back in? Do they have to fill out a report? You know, like, oh, that's interesting.

[Jenna Friedman]

I mean, in my case, I offered up that I was a comedian because I, again, like, that's why I said I had my guard down because I normally don't do that. It was just kind of. I thought that. I thought he was Canadian and I Thought he was just trying to make sure I wasn't violating a work visa. So I was just like, here's everything. But normally I wouldn't over share with Border Patrol. So I think he just was like, oh, you're a comedian. I'm going to do a little due diligence. It didn't feel mean spirited or threatening. I mean, it just felt like, it felt scarier. Like if he was trying to fuck with me, it almost would have felt less scary. Yeah.

[Ag]

Or maybe he's trying to meet a quota.

[Dana Goldberg]

Right.

[Ag]

You know, where a lot of these folks are under pressure to meet these quotas. I know Stephen Miller and Tom Homan have been very, very angry about the fact that they aren't actually finding 3,000 people a day to arrest. And that's why they're going into restaurants and places where people work and then also parking themselves outside of immigration courts where people are going through the legal process and checking in and having their cases dismissed and then, and then snatched up is because they're not making this hugely unrealistic and gigantically expensive and tyrannical quota. You know, this edict issued by like, Stephen Miller.

[Jenna Friedman]

Yeah, it's so. It's also awful. I mean, like, to be like an American with an American passport, like a blonde white woman, and to have that line of questioning and you just like, realize, like, I mean, I'm so lucky and privileged and I just can't imagine how hard it must be for anyone who's not, who doesn't, you know, look like a Republican's wife right now to just be navigating. I. I mean, I was like, if they can do this to me or like, if they can, like. And then the other thing about it is like, the free speech thing has been such a Republican thing and such like a bro podcast thing. So it's like, I do feel like that it's an opportunity to reach across the aisle and be like, look like erosion of civil liberties. Be they like, you know, like, if they're like going into your house to arrest you or just asking you what you joke about, it's all the same thing. And it's weirdly made me more patriotic in terms of like, you know, like what America stands for, what we should be. What we should be is like protecting people. I mean, give me your tire. Your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. The Statue of Liberty. I mean, so. And I also think for the past, like, I don't know, decade, the left has kind of shunned the American flag and patriotism and Ceded that to the right. But I think in a weird way, we need to be doubling down on patriotism. Taking. Taking back the American flag, reminding people what it stands for, like, all of the amendments, that ice, like the ICE is violating the Constitution at every turn. And just trying to remind people of that. Because the only way out of this is, like, with the courts and people just actually. And maybe. I don't know what I'm saying right now. I'm again, Sunday and I've been with my toddler since 6am but just. I mean, I don't know if I hope that's not like a Pollyanna ish thing to say, but, like, we're a nation of immigrants. We're all immigrants.

[Ag]

Right. We have to defend what it means to be a patriot. And yeah, I think that that's a really good point too. When you. When you land on the free speech issue to be like, hey, it shouldn't matter what the speech is, it should be free.

[Jenna Friedman]

And even, like, for like, the Constitutionalists or like whatever they call themselves.

[Ag]

I mean, like, contextualists. Yeah, yeah. Or textualists, I always say. Contextualists. Textualists.

[Jenna Friedman]

No context whatsoever.

[Ag]

Yes. Forget all context and nuance. No.

[Jenna Friedman]

Yeah. Textualists who do forget to bear muskets.

[Ag]

I wish they were contextualists.

[Jenna Friedman]

I also wish they were textualists because, like, muskets. You know what I mean? Like, anyway. But I mean, every single amendment, the one I forget, it was the fifth Amendment and the sixth, the one where, like, you can't go into people's homes. Like, all the, like, due process, all of these things we have in the Constitution for a reason. And. And it's just. They're being violated and it's. It's awful. And it's so. It's so sad. Yeah.

[Ag]

These warrantless raids, they are unlawful. And it also. It's really sad to see people in leadership kind of backing away from the idea of protesting immigration.

[Jenna Friedman]

Oh, you're watching the Gavin Newsom thing or that.

[Ag]

Or I think Amy Klobuchar, like, switched directions when asked about immigration because we were all like, the whole. The whole message, like, leading up to the election was we had this immigration bill that we worked out with Republicans and Donald Trump killed it. Right. And kind of changing the. The zeitgeist from why don't we welcome immigrants to we should only welcome legal immigrants. But even they're smashing through that now.

[Jenna Friedman]

They're smashing. Yeah.

[Ag]

By de. Documenting people like, like on tps. And I know a lot of veterans are really upset about what they're doing to the, you know, the Afghans who helped us during the war now being shipped out. So we've, I feel like in some ways a lot of folks have painted themselves into a corner to be like super pro secure borders. So it's, it's harder now for them to say we welcome our neighbors. And you know, I'm in San Diego. This is a border town. I'm 20 minutes from the border. And yeah, we have absolutely no problem with anyone who wants to come and work here. It's great for our economy. It's, it's great. I'd like, it's going to cost so much money and not just in, you lost tax revenue, but in small businesses having to shut down and you know, and you notice that they're, they're not really doing this in Republican states. I saw that they're doing it more in the blue cities too.

[Jenna Friedman]

It has nothing to do with border security or even immigration. They're just with blue cities. Yeah, they're just with us.

[Ag]

Try to rile people up to have to be forced to send in the National Guard or whatever so they can get their.

[Jenna Friedman]

Yeah.

[Ag]

Propaganda clips.

[Jenna Friedman]

Yeah, I, it's true. I don't, I don't know, I don't know what to do. I mean, like, it, not like any of us do, but I mean, I, I, I do think, you know, I, I see both sides of like, you know, don't flood the streets with, don't, don't give them their clips and give them an excuse to incarcerate more people by protesting. But I also know that peaceful protest is like, really important. And I mean, maybe there's just a way to creatively stop them in their tracks. I don't want to, I don't know what to suggest on the pod, but like, you know, just finding ways to disrupt, like boycotting Avelo Airlines, you know, like doing the economic boycotts, finding creative ways like to shut down the ICE detention centers or. I, I don't, I don't exactly know. But yeah, I, I don't know also. It's like when your actual family is being broken apart, when you're like grandparents who have been here for 50 years are being sent back to like a country that they haven't lived in forever. Like, I don't, I don't know what that does to people and how to protect people in this time.

[Ag]

Yeah, well, I'm all for peacefully putting your body between the bad guys and the good guys. We're gonna be doing a big march to everybody around the country. This Saturday, the no Kings march.

[Jenna Friedman]

Right.

[Ag]

And, you know, I've seen. I've seen a lot of people about, you know, know your rights, don't talk to the police, always ask for a lawyer. Know your rights, know your rights.

[Jenna Friedman]

But here's the thing, because I, in theory, I fully agree with you, but we don't know our rights right now.

[Ag]

Right?

[Jenna Friedman]

Like, if I were to know my rights when I was crossing the border, my right to free speech would have, you know the answer. I could have said, is it illegal to joke about Trump? Why are you asking me that? What's your name? Like. But at the border, you have no rights. And so, and if you're, if you are not. If you're not a US Citizen right now, you have no rights. Even if you're a. Naturally, even naturalized citizens are big. Being harassed. Green card holders are being harassed, so. And detained. So I don't, I don't. I. Not to. You know, I hate this term, devil's advocate, but it's like, what are our rights? And, like, how do we keep people safe in our communities? I, I want to go out there and protest and tell everyone to protest, but are they just trying to get crowds of people to, like, antagonize us to, to get footage that said, like, are they provoking protesters to the point where they're justifying. That was Gavin Newsom's thing where he was like, didn't he say, like, don't. Did he say don't go out on the street or something? Or, like, don't. The news is so fast. It's very. It's honestly hard for me to keep up, but.

[Ag]

No, it is, but I'm, you know, I have always long feared that the Trump administration would plant violent protesters among peaceful protesters. They did it in the George Floyd protests with people from the three.

[Jenna Friedman]

I agree with you, though. I'm not saying don't protest. I think there's just, like, in these times that it's like, I think we have to be, like, really creative about disruption.

[Ag]

Yeah, well, what, what, what's being suggested is if, if some kind of violence happens, that the protest is. The protesters aren't, you know, starting. They say, everyone immediately sit on the ground in silence, put your signs down.

[Jenna Friedman]

Right.

[Ag]

And get it on film. And you know that I think that just kind of. And when I say know your rights, not, like, know the rights that they're trying to take away from you. Yes, there's that. But, like, know your rights. You don't have to speak to a police officer without A lawyer, you don't

[Jenna Friedman]

have to open the door if, if anyone, you never have to open your door. They still like, I guess they can't storm into your house even if they try to. But just don't open your door for them.

[Ag]

Yeah. And they have to have a very specific kind of warrant and they haven't been. So I, you know, I'll be out marching and doing my best to stay safe and keep those around me safe. But yeah, I like all of the little good trouble things like we were able to single handedly neutralize the ICE tip line one day by creating a seven hour hold time so nobody could actually.

[Jenna Friedman]

Perfect. That is exactly, that's exactly the stuff.

[Ag]

And I know Jess Piper was like. Because in West Virginia one of the lawmakers is saying, hey, be careful. If you have a miscarriage, you could be charged criminally unless you, unless you report your miscarriage to the police. And she's like, well everybody call 911 every time you have a period and you know, come up.

[Jenna Friedman]

Don't call 911 because then you're flooding 91 1. But definitely like send your miscarriages to the police station.

[Ag]

Something if they want to make sure

[Jenna Friedman]

it's not, you know, just flood the zone. Yeah.

[Ag]

Call the non emergency police line and,

[Jenna Friedman]

and not even the police because they actually maybe just the politicians who are legislating it. I really do think we should be sending all of our periods and because miscarriages you sometimes don't know if it's a period or a miscarriage. So just send those, send them all to the Republican politicians in your district.

[Ag]

That is that kind of good trouble

[Jenna Friedman]

that, that I, that it's not a biohazard. It's. You're actually, it's your civic responsibility. Send your dirty tampons and anything that, just sending, just send it to your tent. Send it to politicians, Republican politicians

[Ag]

anyway.

[Jenna Friedman]

It's protecting the sanctity of life.

[Ag]

Right. You're right. So right. That's funny. I appreciate you coming on and talking about this. I'm so sorry that you had to get stopped like that. I worry.

[Jenna Friedman]

Like you said, I'm glad I got stopped like.

[Ag]

Right.

[Jenna Friedman]

And that I was able to tell people about it and mine it for content. So I'm fine.

[Ag]

You know, speaking of that content, where are you at next? Talk about where people can find your special and your show. I know I, I know I said that your show is going internationally.

[Jenna Friedman]

I'm taking this show to Edinburgh. I pronounce it wrong all the time before then I'M running some previews. I'm going to be at the independent comedy theater, and I think it's called Planet Ant in Hamtramck in Detroit, right outside Detroit, that is July 25th. And then I'm going to be at Helium Comedy club in Philadelphia July 31st. And then I will be at Union hall in New York city or Brooklyn August 5th and 6th, and then I go to Edinburgh for, like, 18 days of shows.

[Ag]

Is that Fringe? Oh, God, I love Fringe.

[Jenna Friedman]

I'll be at the Monkey Barrel, Hive one. The Monkey Barrel's at a comedy spot that is. I hear it's happening.

[Ag]

So legendary.

[Jenna Friedman]

Yeah, we'll see.

[Ag]

Well, I appreciate your time. And everybody, if you want, you can check out the last time we spoke with Jenna on the episode called Literal Brain worms that aired May 8, 2024.

[Jenna Friedman]

Thank you so much for having me, Allison. It's always so nice to talk to you and stay safe.

[Ag]

You too. Please stay safe, and we'll. We'll catch up again soon. And please enjoy Fringe for me. I wish I could be there this time. It's such an incredible festival.

[Jenna Friedman]

Yeah, it's so much fun.

[Ag]

All right, everybody, Jenna Friedman. Make sure you find and follow her on social media. Check out her new special, Motherfucker. Also, grab her book. It's called Not Funny. It was released in 2023. And we will talk to you soon, my friend.

[Jenna Friedman]

Yeah, sounds good, everybody.

[Ag]

Stick around. We'll be right back with the good news.

[Dana Goldberg]

I'm Brian Caram, and I've spent decades covering politics. Now I'm taking you behind the scenes one interview at a time. Join us as each week, Brian confronts the issues that matter, posing the questions

[Ag]

you wish you could ask.

[Dana Goldberg]

No filter, no agenda, just the truth. We're not here for sound bites. We're here for substance. Join me, Brian Caram. Every week as we cut through the noise and get straight to it. This is Just Ask the Question where curiosity will lead us to the facts. Subscribe now on your favorite podcast platform.

[Jenna Friedman]

And remember, when you want answers, all

[Dana Goldberg]

you have to do is just ask the question.

[Ag]

Everybody, welcome back. It's time for the good news. Who likes good news? Everyone? Then, good news, everyone. All right, everybody, we need your good news. Whatever it is. Any small little thing that's making you happy. Maybe a hobby that you've picked up or some nice down time that you've experienced, or maybe you've got photos of a happy place or some little thing that you. That you're doing to make sure that you're taking care of yourself. We want to hear about that. We also want to hear about shout outs to loved ones, small businesses in your area that could use a boost. Great community activism, maybe a local election that you've blown out of the water. We've been seeing a lot of those, especially on school boards and city councils. Send that to us if you have a shout out to yourself. We want to hear that. We love that so much when you, when you talk about how great you are. Also shout outs to government programs that have helped you or a loved one, whether it's Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, wic, snap, the PACT act, benefits for veterans, any great VA health care you've received, and of course, student debt forgiveness. Send it all to us dailybeanspod.com and click on Contact. And to get your submission read on the air, all you gotta do is pay your bod pet tariff, which means attach a photo of your pet. And if you don't have a pet, you can send us an adoptable pet in your area. We'll see if we can help find him a home. If you don't have that, any animal will do. Even if it's not one that you've seen. You can just grab one off the Internet. That works. But everybody's got baby pictures, right? So you can.

[Dana Goldberg]

I think so. Well, I mean even somebody's baby someone your pictures of somebody's baby of your

[Ag]

yourself as a baby, right? Yeah. Send that to us. Especially really awkward ones like visiting the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. I love those for some reason. Those are good awkward family photos will work for for your tariff. And then of course, bird watching, which can be an actual bird, or you and your family and friends flipping the bird to Trump and Musk Properties. Send it all to us daily beanspot.com and click on Contact. First up from Anonymous. I was listening to a recent show where you were discussing the misadventures of the current Acting U.S. attorney for New Jersey, and you described her behavior as pro se harassment. I think what you meant is per se harassment. But given her lawyering skills, describing what she does as pro se also fits nicely. Pro se describes a person who litigates his case without an attorney, so it certainly describes the actions of Alina Haba. Yeah, you're right. But pro se does work because only a fool represents herself, especially if she's a parking lot lawyer.

[Dana Goldberg]

There you have it.

[Ag]

Thanks. Anonymous pick of newborn fawn with its mama spotted on an early morning walk this week. Oh, Bambi.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, look at them.

[Jenna Friedman]

Oh.

[Ag]

Oh, I love this Photo. Thank you so much, Anonymous, for that correction. Appreciate you.

[Dana Goldberg]

Beautiful. All right, this is Max. Pronouns he and him. And Max has an answer. Hey, Beans queens. This is a reaction to your hilarious episode, Taint of the Week. I love the bit about the humping parrots. And search for a collective noun for this bird. The most common collective noun used to name a group of parrots is called a flock. They can also be called a company of parrots or a pandemonium of parrots, which is now my favorite word.

[Ag]

That is what they are.

[Dana Goldberg]

So there.

[Ag]

Yes, Max, thank you. A pandemonium of parrots. That is what I'm going with. That's wonderful. That's really good news, actually, because it really fits.

[Jenna Friedman]

I love it.

[Ag]

Next up, Judith. Pronoun. She and her. In my planning for the no Kings protest, I felt I needed to think outside the box. I've just finished two rounds of topical chemo for skin cancer. I need to protect my skin in my very hot and humid climate in southern Florida. I plan to carry an umbrella for shade, but how do I carry my sign? So I decided to turn my umbrella into my sign.

[Dana Goldberg]

So smart.

[Ag]

And to make a lightweight cover for my arms. The photos follow. And my sweet rescue dog, Marlene. Okay, Marlene is adorable. And your fucking umbrella is outstanding.

[Dana Goldberg]

This is so good. And so smart. I am so impressed with you.

[Ag]

Each panel has a thing on it. Tax the rich. No kings since 70. 70 since 1776. Fifth amendment due process. It's your right. First amendment. Freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly and petition. That's right. And then save Medicare. Yeah.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, gosh.

[Ag]

This is so cool. Thank you. What a great idea. Absolutely genius, Judith. Wonderful.

[Dana Goldberg]

Brilliant. If everyone did that and someone had a drone, do you know how fucking cool that photo would be? I know. Someone do it. All right. This is from. She pronounced she and her. I don't have any good news. I just got notified Friday that my dream job is being eliminated at the end of July. I am currently completely flabbergasted by this. Also, I think it really hasn't hit me yet. I just wanted to tell all of you how much your podcast helped me keep my sanity in the twilight zone we're living in. Even though I don't have any good news at the moment, I am happy to see Kilmar has made it back from Seacoat. I want to send all the love and good vibes to them and anyone else that's just going through one at the moment. I wanted to give a shout out to my bff, who means more to me than she will ever know. I'm sharing a picture of her, a well known cat lady, enjoying some quality time with a pup. Duchess.

[Jenna Friedman]

Oh, sheeps.

[Ag]

What a great selfless post to send. And I know what you mean. I still haven't really processed being drummed out of the Department of Veterans affairs, and that happened in 2020, so. Yeah, I know what you mean. I know what you mean, my friend. And we're all sending you virtual hugs, sheep.

[Dana Goldberg]

Absolutely.

[Ag]

Next up from TB Pronouns, she and her. Good morning. In addition to the more traditional protest songs we all know and love, I've been compiling my own playlist and some newer and or lesser known songs that I find inspirational and fit the bill for charging me up. I submit the following list for the listeners consideration. Shooting Stars by Rival Sons, White Flag by Joseph Talk Talk by A Perfect Circle, Killing in the Name of Of by Rage against the Machine Uprising. Yes, by Muse, who Will Stand With Us? Yes by the Drop Kick Murphy's let's Get fired up for June 14th, y', all, for pod pet taxes.

[Jenna Friedman]

Pick the picture.

[Ag]

It's self explanatory.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, my goodness.

[Ag]

It's a squirrel on a tiny horse that says, onward, Buttercup. There's to spread.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, my God.

[Ag]

I. I would put like and on a pale Horse. You know, what was the. What's the quote from On a Pale Horse about death?

[Dana Goldberg]

I don't know any.

[Ag]

Well, here. Now I have to find it. All right. On a pale horse. You read the next one and I'll find it.

[Dana Goldberg]

I've got good news for you before we lose this. So while you look that up, I'm gonna tell everyone my good news. You know all what I do when I'm not doing comedy. I raise money for LGBTQ organizations across the country. And over this last. It was Thursday night of last week when I had to miss work here with you on the beans. I broke my own record and shattered the Lambda Legal fundraising record, and I raised 1.$25.

[Ag]

Is that a record for you?

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, well, other than the 3 million for a. A conference, but that was a conference of very wealthy philanthropic people. This was like a room full of lawyers, like, and people who cared about, you know, this movement, but people are fired up, so I just want everyone to know that. And I also got to hear from my dear friend Commander Emily Schilling, who we know and love on the podcast. So it was good to see her as well. All right, what'd you got?

[Ag]

Oh, it's. It's actually, I think from the Bible it says, and I looked and lo, a pale horse and the rider's name was Death. That's.

[Dana Goldberg]

That explains why I did not know your quote.

[Ag]

It's Revelations.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, there you go.

[Ag]

Very, very, you know, good news type of a book.

[Dana Goldberg]

Hysterical. All right, this next one's from Wanny. Pronouns she and her Howdy, Ag and dg. I'm a podcast junkie, and even though I listen to Jack religiously, I only added the beans to my library about six months ago when the yam was elected. I have to say my new favorite sound is Dana's laugh. One of the best. Thank you for that. I'm writing to you from Machias. Machias, like the Tias. Yes, I got that right. It's the. Okay, this one's going to be harder. Passamaquoddy. Passamaquoddy. Maybe I think Passamaquoddy word for bad little falls. And that's in Maine. It's a town of 2,000 people, and depending on the year, it's the county seat of the poorest or second poorest county in Maine. Historically solid red. Nonetheless, a small group of dedicated resisters has been peacefully protesting every Saturday since April 5, despite the fact that it has rained every single Saturday since April 5th. I'm sorry to say that at 63, I'm often the youngest person there. Don't be sorry. Oh my God. But I do wish there were more young people. But as Mainers do, we stand in the rain and we take on Black flies, the relentless defenders of the wilderness whose sole mission is to make our eyes swell shut after a bite. Our numbers range from 20 to 70 plus, and I'm hoping to see larger numbers next week. At the no Kings rally yesterday, we had the most positive responses from passersby than we ever have. So it seems even a down east Maine, the tide is turning. But I'm not sure this is really good news as much as just is happening all over the country. People doing the right thing and standing up, speaking up. What I really want to submit is more of a shit my kids say or misheard lyrics category. Maybe you want to save it for a particularly bad news day. I think that's every day. By the way. Years ago when my children lived under my roof, we had a whiteboard in the kitchen to note when we needed something at the grocery store. Last of the toilet paper, milk, etc. Now one day I was scrubbing some pots and pans and my hands were full of soap and I used the last brillo pad. I asked my ever obedient and agreeable 8 year old son to put Brillo on the grocery list. It wasn't until long after I was finished that I noted that he had written gorilla on the whiteboard and I planned to use the story in my speech at the wedding someday. He unquestioningly thought he needed a gorilla and dutifully wrote it down without wondering, why would we need one? Where would we put it? How would we even get it home? Or if it stocked gorillas at the grocery store. Surely he had been there with me in the past and knew they didn't sell gorillas. Don't worry. This once oblivious little boy is now a capable young man with good critical thinking skills. For my tax I'm including a picture of said child at the day as oh, at one day old. And photos of my two chucklehead dogs, Bodhi, after Bodhi Miller and Mookie, named after Mookie Betts. Ah, there we go. Baseball. Who had the best name in baseball?

[Ag]

Yes, he did, right?

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah. Feel free to guess Mookie's breed, but I have no cl. He was a rescue from the Underground Railroad, an agency that rehomes dogs.

[Ag]

I have to. I have to take you back. It's the Under Hound Railroad.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh my God. Why would I even think it was called the Underground Railroad?

[Ag]

Oh my God, that's brilliant. Underhound Railroad.

[Dana Goldberg]

That is awesome. I am sorry about that misspeak, but it was a good correction. And the Under Hound Railroad, it re homes dogs from kill shelters in the south mouth. I suspect he was abandoned for not being fierce enough as his original name was Cujo.

[Ag]

Oh, geez.

[Dana Goldberg]

He's just a loving, tender and devoted mind who has FOMO when there's a deer outside, who also believes the floor is lava and needs help coming into the bedroom at night. Mahouti's breed is pretty obvious. I think he's enormous. And he thinks he ought to sleep in the queen size bed with two adults. For a poodle, he's not the brightest. And neither of these dogs are helpful when it comes to cleaning up spilled food on the floor. You literally have to call them over, bend down, point at any spilled morsels. So they are not earning their keep, but we'll keep them anyway. Oh my God, look at the sun.

[Ag]

Oh, and okay, so the. The Cujo baby. Adorable.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh my God.

[Ag]

Roddy Pitt lab, maybe.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, let's go with that.

[Ag]

Adorable. The baby photo. Oh, man.

[Dana Goldberg]

I just. I also want to thank the powers that be for not making a dog rescue called the Underground Railroad. Thank you very much for that. And Under Hound Railroad is brilliant.

[Ag]

It is. And I love these little baby jumpers where you can pull the little sleevies over their fingernails because baby fingernails are pretty painful when they scratch you. So I want that for. There are people I know, like grownups who should have that.

[Dana Goldberg]

I think so, too.

[Ag]

Like, stop touching things. Here, just let me put that over there. Anyway, thank you so much, everybody, for your good news. You can send your good news to [e-mail] and click on contact. Dana. $1.3 million.

[Dana Goldberg]

I was. I tell you what, when I got my first, they expected. They expected one $100,000 donor. And I got three out of the crowd. 450,000. And then after that, I was like. I knew in my gut, I was like, we're going to pass a million. And when I do, I was like, I want you all to lose your shit, but I want you to keep demanded that room explode when we hit a million dollars.

[Ag]

Oh, how incredible.

[Dana Goldberg]

And what this done. So you know everyone, Lambda Legal funds the lawyers, the lawsuits that are suing the Trump administration for these bullshit executive orders that are banning our trans troops, that are taking away passport rights to have whatever gender marker you want on there, to taking away health care for all of the trans community, not just kids. Like, they are fighting all of this. But a lot of these lawyers are working pro bono. So it's my job to raise money so that they have funds to actually finance their lawsuits.

[Ag]

Thank you so much for that work.

[Dana Goldberg]

My pleasure. It was a magical night. Yeah, that's. Oh, that was the night with Elizabeth Prelogger.

[Ag]

Oh, yeah. Isn't she great?

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, she's phenomenal. We've spent some time together. I. I relayed your message to her and she said thank you. She's lovely. Absolutely lovely. She is the 48th solicitor general of the United States, if some of you are not sure who I'm speaking of.

[Ag]

Yeah, I remember hearing her in some of the arguments in front of the Supreme Court, and I'm like, slow down. My brain cannot handle the amazing that you're saying right now. You gotta slow down for Alison Gill to keep up. She's so quick on her feet. All right, thank you all so much for listening. Make sure you check out the latest Unjustified episode. Head to Mellor. She wrote Dot com. Subscribe to the my newsletter there. The breakdown. It's free, totally free. Like all of our stuff. Everything's free. Unless you want to kick in some money. If you want to become a patron of the show. You can do [e-mail] me wrote welcome to all our new patrons. We have a ton of new patrons.

[Dana Goldberg]

So amazing.

[Ag]

Thank you so much. I know I'm going to see a bunch of them at the the after party after the march.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yes.

[Ag]

On Saturday. No kings, just queens. We're going to do drag queen bingo, y'.

[Jenna Friedman]

All.

[Ag]

I'm really excited, so I appreciate you all. We'll see you tomorrow. Any final thoughts, my friend?

[Dana Goldberg]

No, ma'.

[Jenna Friedman]

Am.

[Ag]

All right, we'll see you. We'll see you next time, which happens to be tomorrow morning. Until then, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health health. And take care of your family. I've been ag.

[Dana Goldberg]

I've been dg.

[Ag]

And them's the beans.

[Dana Goldberg]

Refried beans.

[Ag]

I like refried beans.

[Amanda Sturgill]

It's no surprise that newsmakers try to manipulate the audience. They want you to believe that they are the one holding the line, and they'll use any trick they can to get you there.

[Ag]

But don't let them fool you.

[Amanda Sturgill]

Get Unspun. I'm Amanda Sturgill. I've been a reporter, and today I teach future reporters to cut the the spin and think critically about what newsmakers say. My podcast, Unspun, shows you how to know when you're being manipulated by the news. Learn to spot the tricks, and how to make up your own mind about what's true. So if you're tired of being fooled by the news, subscribe to Unspun today. Unspun because you deserve the truth.