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Thursday, June 2nd, 2022 In the Hot Notes: John Eastman reveals in a court filing which email was subject to the crime fraud exception; Lin Wood loses his appeal to block the Georgia bar association’s mental health probe videotapes reveal the GOP’s plans to subvert elections; the Texas school police chief is ignoring state investigators questions about the Uvalde shooting, and a judge rejects Sarah Palin’s nonsense again; plus Dana and Allison deliver your Good News. Follow our guest on Twitter: Adam Klasfeld
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Paula Poundstone
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Allison Gill
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Paula Poundstone
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Allison Gill
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Paula Poundstone
So good.
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Allison Gill
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Paula Poundstone
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Allison Gill
MSW Media. Hey everybody, it's Ag. And welcome to Refried Beans, where we play an episode of the Daily Beans podcast from the same week either 1, 2, or 3 years ago so we can see how far we've come. So please enjoy this episode from days gone by and note the date in the intro. Refried Beans. I like refried beans. That's why I want to try fried beans, because maybe they're just as good.
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Adam Klassfeld
And we're wasting time.
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Allison Gill
Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Thursday, June 2, 2022. Today, John Eastman reveals in a court filing which email was subject to the crime fraud exception. Lin Wood loses his appeal to block the Georgia Bar Association's mental health probe. Videotapes reveal the GOP's plans to subvert elections. The Texas school police chief is ignoring state investigators questions about the Uvalde shooting, and a judge rejects Sarah Palin's nonsense again. I'm Allison Gill.
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Paula Poundstone
And I'm Dana Goldberg.
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Allison Gill
Hi, Dana. I hear you're not getting better.
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Paula Poundstone
Yep. I'm here, though, and my voice just sounds a little funny. But other than that, we don't need to focus on that because the show must go on.
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Allison Gill
How many times have you and I gone upstairs?
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Paula Poundstone
Oh my God.
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Allison Gill
Sick as hell.
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Paula Poundstone
Bronchitis the flu. There's something happens, and performers that are listening will know this, and it could happen to other industries, I'm not sure. But when the adrenaline takes over, you're fine. And then the moment you step off stage, you will crash bad. But, yeah, this is. In comparison to those, I'm okay, but I just would like to get better. So it might be another visit to the doctor tomorrow.
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Allison Gill
All right, well, we're all sending you the healing vapor. Well, that's good that you're negative for Covid. So there's at least that. Today we're going to be talking with Adam Klassfeld from Law and Crime about the Linwood Georgia Bar Association's mental health probe and how a judge has decided that that can go forward. Actually, they didn't even decide that that can go forward. They decided that they don't have any say in that because it's a state thing. So I'm gonna talk to him a little bit later in the show, and then, of course, we have the good news. If you have any good news you want to send in, you can do it by going to DailyBeansPod.com and clicking on Contact. And again, I just want to take a minute to thank our patrons. You seriously help make this show possible. So thank you. Thank you so much. You get the ad, free feed for this show, MSW Book Club, and Mueller, She Wrote. It's three bucks a month. It's awesome. If you want to sponsor somebody, you can do that on our website, too. And that's DailyBeansPod.com so thank you. Thank you, thank you. We really appreciate that. All right, with that, we have a lot of news to get to. Let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes. All right, we're gonna kick this off with this fascinating story. We can now say with quite a bit of certainty that the Eastman email that Judge Carter classified as qualifying for the crime fraud exception to attorney client privilege is one that Eastman forwarded to Rudy Giuliani that included a memo penned by Ron Burgundy's left testicle, Kenneth Cheesebrough, because I imagine that's what he would name his left testicle. How do we know it was this email? Because Eastman told us in his latest court filing in the case, considering over 600 more documents the committee is trying to get on page nine of his ridiculous and sanctionable filing submitted to the court Tuesday night, Eastman's attorney said the following. The single document that this court ordered to be produced under the crime fraud exception belies the Select Committee's claim that Eastman was engaged in a conspiracy to prevent the certification of President Biden's electoral victory. The email says the needed scrutiny would be worthwhile even if it couldn't ultimately prevent the election of Biden and Harris. Because he knew it was bullshit. Right. So now we know what email he's talking about. And now we know what email is. The one that's under the crime fraud exception for attorney client privilege. And that comes from an email shared by the 16 committee just days before in a court filing cited to show the underlying crime. It's a December 13, 2020 email from a little known attorney who's been advising Donald Trump's legal team, Kenneth Cheesebrough. He sent it to Rudy Giuliani, sketching out a plan for then Vice President Pence to halt the certification of Biden's victory on January 6. He dubbed it the President of the Senate strategy. President of the Senate, just Chuck Grassley. And that's going to come in handy in a second. No, he's pro tempore. Right? President of the Senate pro tempore, U.S. district Court Judge David Carter described the memo in his March ruling as perhaps, quote, the first time members of President Trump's team transformed a legal interpretation of the Electoral Count act into a day by day plan of action. Carter wrote in his opinion that this memo likely furthered the crimes of obstruction of an official proceeding and conspiracy to defraud the United States. So Cheese Bro is kind of here too, right? Carter ordered it released to the Select Committee under the crime fraud exception to attorney client privilege. The plan offered by Cheese Bro depended on the existence of competing slates of presidential electors in a handful of states where Biden won the popular vote. In fact, just a day after Cheese Bro sent his memo to Rudy, pro Trump activists gathered in several state capitals and signed documents falsely claiming to be the true presidential electors from their states. Then Cheesebrough's strategy required Pence to, quote, firmly take the position that he and he alone is charged with the constitutional responsibility not just to open the votes, but to count them, including making judgments about what to do if there were conflicting votes, conflicting sets of electors. Cheesbrough suggested that members of the Senate hold hearings in the days before the January 6th session. In particular, he wanted Lindsey Graham, chair of the Judiciary Committee at the time, to focus on Pence's power to count electoral votes. A Graham spokesman emphasized that he held no hearings on the subject at the time. His office has declined to say whether any of Trump's lawyers approached him about the plan. Cheesebrough suggested that Pence should immediately recuse from running the electoral vote count, citing a conflict of interest, and hand the gavel to Senator Chuck Grassley or another senior Republican senator. Then that senator would lead the count, but refused to accept any electors in the states that Trump was contesting. Instead, the senator would contend that if those states wanted to be counted, they had to rerun their elections, engage in more litigation or have their legislatures appoint new electors. And post January 6, Cheesbrough essentially suggests to let the chips fall where they may, the Supreme Court might step in and overrule the Trump gambit or sidestep it by declaring it non justiciable. But he said even trying and failing would be a worthy attempt and could resolve in unpredictable ways, such as the selection of Pence as president. It's very interesting that Cheesbrough's plan included Chuck Grassley, who said on January 5 that he'd be presiding over the Senate that day as they didn't expect Pence to be there.
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Paula Poundstone
Huh?
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Allison Gill
He quickly walked that back. The trafficking by Trump allies in these theories prove that they plan to repeatedly violate the Electoral Count act to impose their fringe interpretation of the law and keep Trump in power. That's what House Counsel Doug Letter wrote in last week's filing. Cheesbrough was also behind the arguments for Trump's allies to send competing slates of electors to Congress, creating the very controversy those allies said was a necessary step for Pence to assert control. We have to have these competing slates of electors so that Pence can say, oh, there's competing slates of electors. I got to step down. It's absolutely bananas. The Department of Justice, as you know, is now deep into a criminal investigation of the fraudulent slates of electors.
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Paula Poundstone
Awesome, A.G. thank you. Now, a local police chief in Uvalde, Texas hasn't responded for a follow up interview in a state investigation into the law enforcement response to the elementary school massacre that we know left 19 children and two teachers dead. And that's from an official on Tuesday. Now, Peter Arredondo, the police chief of Uvalde Consulated Independent School District, participated in an initial interview that has not yet answered questions for follow ups made two days ago. And that's from a spokesman for the Texas Department of Public Safety. Now, DPS spokesman Travis Considine said that Uvalde and Uvalde CISD departments have been cooperating with investigators, but added that Arredondo has not responded to requests for additional interviews. Now, Arredondo and it might be Arredondo and I apologize, that truly is Just me not necessarily knowing how to pronounce it correctly, is said to be the incident commander who incorrectly believed the gunman to be barricaded suspect and ordered officers to remain outside during the shooting. Now, after more than an hour, federal agents, disobeying the chief's orders, entered the school and fatally shot the gunman. On Tuesday, Arredondo was sworn in as a newly elected member of the Uvalde City council. Mayor Don McLaughlin said that in a statement. Now, officials canceled a ceremony for the event, quote, out of respect for the families who buried their children today and who are planning to bury their children in the next few days. That was from McLaughlin when Shimon Procupez cornered Arredondo and asked him why he hasn't been answering investigators questions. Arrdondo bravely ran away. AJ Just turned around and left. The interview didn't just. I don't know.
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Allison Gill
He's Redondo. He bravely ran away.
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Paula Poundstone
Now, we also learned last night the cops were lying. Lying when they said the teacher had propped open a door. And that's how the gunman got into the adjoining classrooms. Which is fucking infuriating that they threw a teacher under the bus at all.
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Allison Gill
So pissed.
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Paula Poundstone
Yeah, that's the part that puts me over. They have now changed their story and said the teacher did close the door. Now, the Department of Justice is conducting an independent review of what really happened. There's been a few statements that have put other people in danger. One, that fucking teacher. They're just putting that out there. That a teacher left the door open. There was some other congressperson, I believe it was, that said a trans person was responsible for the shooting. The moment you say something, this mob attacks. And I just want people to be very cautious of what they're saying. And these, I mean, for this to be a statement from the police officer and the chief is just absurd. Whoever accused the teacher of leaving the door open, I mean, that person should be in some sort of trouble. But just be really careful. Be really careful about what you're saying about people, because it's instant. It's instant that people will react.
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Allison Gill
What would really piss me off? I mean, not that any of this doesn't already really piss me off, but as if they were trying to blame one of the teachers who got shot with leaving the door open.
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Paula Poundstone
Yep.
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Allison Gill
Somebody who couldn't defend themselves, stand up for themselves and who was killed. Yeah, you know, like, fuck you.
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Paula Poundstone
Yep. There's so many things that happen that are sketchy as hell in this story. So I'm glad there's an investigation happening and I hope they get down to the bott of it. I know it doesn't change anything and I know it doesn't bring children back and those families will never be the same, but at least maybe someone will be held accountable for what was a complete lack of response to this horrifying situation.
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Allison Gill
Yeah. And speaking of being held accountable, we just got some news in a minute ago that the shooter in Buffalo is being charged with domestic terrorism.
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Paula Poundstone
Good.
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Allison Gill
And first degree murder. So that's important. Next up, video recordings of Republican Party operatives meeting with grassroots activists. Provide an inside look at a multi pronged strategy to target and potentially overturn votes in Democratic precincts. Quote, install trained recruits as regular poll workers and put them in direct contact with party attorneys. The plan, as outlined by an RNC staffer in Michigan, includes utilizing rules designed to provide political balance among poll workers to install party trained volunteers prepared to challenge voters at Democratic majority polling places, developing a website to connect those workers to local lawyers, and establishing a network of party friendly districts and or party friendly DAs who could intervene to block vote counts at certain precincts. That's what they're doing. They're creating an army of poll workers to stand there in places where mostly Democrats vote and challenge every single vote and then hire and put in place district attorneys in those areas that will be favorable to the Republicans. Being a poll worker, you just have so many more rights and things you can do to stop something than as a poll challenger. That's Matthew Seyfried, the RNC's election integrity director for Michigan. Really sounding like he wants to keep the vote fair there. Right. You just have so many things you can do to stop something. Yeah. Mm. Now this is the RNC's integrity director for Michigan stressing the importance of obtaining official designations as poll workers in a meeting with GOP activists in Wayne county as opposed to poll challengers. That was last November 6th. It's one of a series of recordings of GOP meetings between the summer of 2021 and May of this year obtained by Politico. Backing up those frontline workers, quote, it's going to be an army, he promised. This is seyfried in an October 5th training session. We're going to have more lawyers than we've ever recruited because let's be honest, that's where it's going to be fought, right? What? That's where what's going to be fought? You're fucking imaginary. Hasn't even happened yet. Voting problems.
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Paula Poundstone
Yep.
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Allison Gill
Seyfried also said the RNC will hold quote, unquote workshops and equip poll workers with a hotline and a website developed by Zendesk, a software support company used by online retailers. And I guess the, one of the things we can count on though from the fucking Republican Party is none of their tech is going to work. So it's going to. The website's going to crash, oh, 100%. So that's at least the hotline. It won't be manned. At least that's good that. At least there's that. But anyway, this will allow Republicans to live chat with parties on election day in May 2022 training sessions. He said he'd achieved a goal set last winter. More than 5,600 individuals had signed up to be poll workers. And several days ago, he submitted an initial list of more than 850 names to the Detroit clerk. So they're now organizing their poll workers. Democrat Janice Winfrey, who serves as the clerk, would be bound to pick names from the list submitted by the party under a local law intended to ensure bipartisan representation and an unbiased team of precinct workers. Separately, Politico obtained zoom tapings of Tim Griffin, legal counsel to the Amistad Project, a self described election integrity group that Donald Trump's former lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, once portrayed as a partner in the Trump campaign's legal efforts to overturn the 2020 election. The Amistad Project named themselves after the Amistad. He's meeting with activists from multiple states, discussing plans for identifying friendly DAs who could stage real time interventions in local election disputes. On the recording, Griffin speaks of building a nationwide network of district attorney allies and how to create a legal trap. Isn't that great a trap? Quote, remember guys, we're trying to build out nationwide district attorney network. Your local district attorney, as we always say, is more powerful than your congressman. That's politicizing the police.
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Paula Poundstone
Absolutely.
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Allison Gill
They're the ones that can seat a grand jury. They're the ones that can start an investigation, issue subpoenas, make sure that records are retained, et cetera. Election watchdog groups and legal experts say many of these recruits are answering the RNC's call because they believe fraud was committed in the 2020 election. So installing them as the supposedly unbiased officials who oversee voting at the precinct level could create chaos in such heavily Democratic precincts. On the tapes, some of the would be poll workers lamented that fraud was committed in 2020 and the election was corrupt. Installing party loyalists on the board of canvassers, which is responsible for certifying the election also appears to be part of the GOP strategy. Remember when Trump kept calling the board of canvassers in Wisconsin and they're like, dude, I fucking quit. And the other guy's like, I'm not going to vote for that. They want to install their buddies now, pro election fraud idiots on these boards of canvassers.
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Paula Poundstone
This is terrifying.
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Allison Gill
In Wayne county, which includes Detroit, Republicans nominated to their board a man who said he would not have certified the 2020 election. The recordings are among the first windows into what former Trump strategist Steve Bannon, who's been urging listeners to his podcast to take on election leadership positions. He calls it the precinct strategy. There's so much information and so many recordings to listen to. You can get it all at Politico. Just Google the article. It's called it's going to be an Army Tapes Reveal GOP Plans to Contest Elections. It's terrifying.
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Paula Poundstone
It is terrifying. But go check it out. Inform yourselves. It's important. Last story in the segment. On Tuesday, the Huffington Post reported that a federal judge has denied a request by who? Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to redo her failed lawsuit against who? The New York Times. And this is a quote. The judge who presided over Sarah Palin's libel case against the New York Times denied her request Tuesday for a new trial, saying she failed to introduce even a speck quote of evidence necessary to prove actual malice by the newspaper.
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Allison Gill
Can you see that speck from her house?
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Paula Poundstone
Oh, you can see it? Yeah, I can see it from my backyard.
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Allison Gill
Oh.
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Paula Poundstone
Oh, hey, that might be more Fargo.
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Allison Gill
I don't know why she's from Minnesota.
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Paula Poundstone
Yeah, we just moved her to North Dakota.
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Allison Gill
South. Sorry about that.
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Paula Poundstone
I can see Russia from my house.
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Allison Gill
Ooh, that was a good one.
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Paula Poundstone
Thank you. I can see Russia from my house. The report went on to say us. Maybe my voice is good for something. It's definitely not good for podcasting. Now, U.S. district Judge Jed Rakoff made the assertion in a written decision as he rejected post trial claims from Palin's lawyers. Another quote. Her attorneys had asked the judge to grant a new trial or disqualify himself as biased against her, citing several evidentiary rulings by Rakoff that they said were errors. And this is again from the report. He went on to say those ranged from how the questioning of the jurors occurred during jury selection to how jurors were instructed when they were asked questions during deliberations.
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Allison Gill
Oh, my God. Biased against her because of the ruling, right? That's not how this shit works. And it's funny, because in a minute, I'm going to talk to Adam Klassfeld about the Lin Wood thing. He also filed to get rid of his judge because he lost his case, so therefore the judge must be biased against him as well. This is their playbook.
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Paula Poundstone
Oh, wow. Now, Rakoff rejected all of these claims, saying, quote, in actuality, none of these were erroneous, let alone a basis for granting Palin a new trial. So all that's bullshit. Palin sued the Times in response to an editorial that alleged her rhetoric was partially responsible for the mass shooting in Tucson, Arizona, that critically injured former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords. She claimed that the allegation was injurious to her reputation. Like that ever fucking existed. And her political career. Again, very short lived. A jury rejected her claims in February, with the judge making clear she had failed to meet her burden of proof and he would have set aside the verdict even if the jury had ruled in her favor. The judge was like, even if the jury had come back, I would have not accepted it.
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Allison Gill
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're gonna lose no matter what the jury says. Not a speck.
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Paula Poundstone
Not a speck.
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Allison Gill
Evidence that you can see from your house. My goodness. All right, well, I'm about to talk to Adam Klassfeld here. We're going to take a quick break. But same thing with Lin Wood when he's. He's trying to get the bar associate. He's trying to get a court to intervene in the bar association's investigation into his sanctions. And he, you know, wants to get the judge tossed off the case because the judge was like, no, we're a court. We can't tell the state Bar association what to do. Have a nice day. And he's like, you're biased. You need to be removed from the bench. And I'm going to appeal. And the appeals court was like, no, that's not how any of this shit works. Go get your. Go get your mental health test with the Bar association and leave us alone. So I'm going to talk to Adam Klassfeld about that, but we'll be right back after this quick break, after these messages. We'll be right back.
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Paula Poundstone
Everyone.
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Allison Gill
Welcome back. Happy to be joined today by my friend from Law and Crime, also host of the Objections podcast, Adam Klassfeld. H. Hi, Adam.
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Adam Klassfeld
Hey, Allison. How's it going?
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Allison Gill
It's going well. It's good to see you. It's been a minute. I feel like we haven't talked in quite a while. So I'm happy that you're here with.
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Adam Klassfeld
Us today and happy that we're catching up too.
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Allison Gill
And this isn't as bad of news that we kind of normally cover. This is interesting. I kind of feel that this is a good news story. It's a good development, at least by way of justice. But the headline here that you've written is that pro Trump lawyer Lin Wood loses appeal seeking to block Georgia's Bar association's mental health probe. Can you talk a little bit about give us some background here? I know, I know that you've talked about this on objections on the podcast. So give us a little bit of background and tell us what this ruling means.
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Adam Klassfeld
So in the wake of the 2020 election, just for listeners who hadn't followed this part about it, Lin Wood is obviously one of the attorneys that was involved in the so called Kraken Litig seeking to overturn the 2020 election. Before that, he was a defamation lawyer of some prominence. He represented JonBenet Ramsey, the Atlanta accused man accused of the Atlanta Olympics bombing, and made a name for himself in those cases. But after 2020, he got involved in efforts to overturn the election for Donald Trump in several states and those ended badly for him. In one of those states, he was referred to his state bar along with his co counsel by a federal judge sanctioning him at the possible expense of his law license. The judge wanted the bar associations to investigate him and his co counsel at the pain of possible suspension or disbarment. And that's still in the mix. What this particular development, the story that I wrote and went up on the website today was essentially about something that happened adjacent with that, where there was another investigation by the Georgia bar for his post 2020election antics, but also sought to investigate his mental health. Now you had mentioned my podcast investigating one of the episodes of that show. I had listened to certain audio tapes about his relationship with his family and was told by one of the sources that he was essentially given an ultimatum by family members that basically get mental health treatment. So in one of the recordings that we had obtained and published, we learned that he had said that he felt his family had turned against him and he rejected his children's demand that he gets a mental health examination. Now, he denies that there is any reason to examine his mental health and saw this as evidence of essentially a plot against him because of his politics and because of his efforts to overturn the election for Donald Trump. And so he sued the Georgia State Bar. And what happened today? What the recent ruling out of the 11th Circuit was, was essentially a rejection of his efforts to stop that probe. District court judge, coincidentally enough, one of the same district court judges that rejected his election overturning efforts had basically said that there is no reason for a federal court to intervene in what is essentially a state bar investigation. An appellate panel agreed and a three judge panel of varying political of varying appointed judges ranging from there was a Barack Obama appointee, there was a Donald Trump appointee, I believe there was even a Jimmy Carter appointee. And the three judge panel unanimously agreed. There's no grounds for a federal court's intervention in this state bar investigation. This allegation that this was, that there was bias was unfounded. He hadn't proven it to the extent to stop this investigation. And they also rejected his parallel effort to disqualify the judge, saying, well, this judge ruled against me on the election, therefore he must be biased. They said that's not how it works. You can't demonstrate bias just because a judge did not agree with your case about the 2020 election. So it was a resounding victory. Judges who were appointed by Trump, Obama and Carter agreed he didn't have any grounds to stop this investigation.
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Allison Gill
So that sounds like it was more of like a jurisdictional decision than any kind of decision on the merits. It sounds like the court was like, we don't even get involved in that state level stuff. That's the bar association, and we can't do it, you know, provide any kind of relief anyhow. So you're just sort of barking up the wrong tree. Although I do think that the paranoia is interesting and might be something that the Georgia State Bar association should look into. But did this Georgia State Bar association mental health probe arise from the Michigan sanctioned referral, or is it a separate sanctions investigation, or are they all just sort of enjoined into one?
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Adam Klassfeld
So the thing about bar association investigations, they're usually confidential. So how it began is largely a mystery. He claims that it came because of complaints that certain lawyers had leveled against him. And we first learned about this investigation because he posted it on Telegram, the encrypted right wing social media website now where he has hundreds of thousands of followers and where he turned to exclusively after he was kicked off of Twitter. Remember, he was kicked off of Twitter in the wake of the January 6th attack on the US Capitol. So how did we learn about this investigation to begin with? Well, he posted it on Telegram, and that was one of the interesting things in this whole saga playing out because he had claimed that one of the smoking gun pieces of evidence of bias against him from this state bar was that they publicized a confidential investigation. Now, the bar said, no, that wasn't us, that was you. That was you on your Telegram account to hundreds of thousands of your followers. So another reason why his request for federal court's intervention to stop this investigation in its tracks was rejected.
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Allison Gill
Got it. So we don't even know if this is the bar Association's investigation based on a Michigan referral or if it's some other bar association investigation from some other entity who's who might have submitted a request for an investigation. But I do know that his positions that he posted on Telegram have gotten him in trouble quite a few times, particularly in the wake of some of those Michigan sanctions hearings. So do you know relatively how long bar association investigations take? Because I know that the bar association in Texas has been looking into Sidney Powell since like November. That's, that's quite a long time ago.
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Adam Klassfeld
Right now the. It's sort of terra incognita here because as I said, these things are usually confidential. How long do they investigate? You know, it makes one think of the old Rumsfeld quote. It's an unknown, unknown. We won't see them operating. So right now, the only disclosure that we have is, ironically enough, through him and his litigation and what they're finding, what they're thinking, whether he has complied with their requests or whether he will at some future time comply with their requests is basically there's one person until their investigation concludes that can tip us off on that regard, and that's essentially Lin Wood on his Telegram account.
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Allison Gill
Well, I'm not going to join Telegram or anything, but I'm sure you'll keep us surprised as to what comes up next. We'll be waiting. We've been waiting for a lot of these sanctions investigations to be finished and there are many other. Were several lawyers that were referred for sanctions. We haven't heard a peep about it, which like you said, we don't even know when they start. And so that way we don't know if they end, when they end, if they do. We don't know for which sanctions it was for, particularly in this time when so many people were sanctioned for, so put in for sanctions for so many different things. But I appreciate your time today and we will keep following up on this and everybody check out Law and Crime and then of course, the Objections podcast, wherever you get your podcasts. Adam Klasveld, thanks for your time today.
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Adam Klassfeld
Thank you for having me.
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Allison Gill
Everybody stick around. We'll be back with the good news after these messages. We'll be right back. Welcome back everybody. It's time for the good news. Who likes good news? Everyone? Then good news, everyone. Good news, good news. And if you have any good news, corrections, confessions, or anything you want to send us photos of your pod pets or your happy place Halloween pictures, take them all year round Woobie stories. Just go to DailyBeansPod.com and click on Contact. Dana, I have a little self correction before we get going.
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Paula Poundstone
Okay, give it to me.
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Allison Gill
And I haven't looked at our submissions today, so it might be in there. But if so, then we'll, then we'll have a duplicate.
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Paula Poundstone
Well, let's just sandwich this for you ag. You're one of the best co hosts I've ever had in my podcasting career. However, is there something you said the other day that was incorrect?
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Allison Gill
Yes, I said yesterday that today would be the day that Raffensperger testified before the grand jury in Fulton County. Da. It's actually June 2nd, which is tomorrow for us, but today for you. So now, right now, as you're listening to this is when Raffensperger is testifying before the grand jury. So I was a day off on that. I could blame time travel and just say it was a weird mix up, but I'm gonna go ahead and take the hit, take the accountability and say, you know what? My judge doesn't have to recuse. My judge isn't biased. I was wrong. So there we go.
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Paula Poundstone
Well, thank you for the correction and also thank you for your service to this country. You're valuable and I appreciate you. Would you like to start the good news segment?
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Allison Gill
That was such a nice compliment sandwich. I appreciate it, but it was true.
- [33:23]
Paula Poundstone
Every bit of it.
- [33:23]
Allison Gill
And yes, I know it's a shit sandwich because the compliment is the bread and you name the sandwich by what's in between the bread. But I just don't. And a shit sandwich just sounds rude anyway.
- [33:31]
Paula Poundstone
Well, if you have celiac, the bread is the shit part, so whatever.
- [33:36]
Allison Gill
Yeah, or you're eating one of those Kentucky Fried Chicken sandwiches that has chicken as the bread.
- [33:40]
Paula Poundstone
Wow, we jumped the shark, didn't we? What's going on here?
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Allison Gill
We did. We sure did. Let's reel it back in. Let's reel it back in with Jillian Pronouns. She and her. I started listening to the show a couple months ago and now follow a number of other pods that I've discovered from this show. One of those being the Mary Trump Show. Woo hoo. Mary has been soliciting bumper sticker slogans from her guests. Yes, we started that one. It was me and her and Wajaha Ali talking about that. And she wants a bumper sticker slogan to create short, snappy messaging content. I came up with one and was thrilled when she read it on her show. My slogan, seeing red, vote blue in 22.
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Paula Poundstone
I love it.
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Allison Gill
I love it. I absolutely. I love it. I love it. So that's very good, Gillian. I'm attaching pics of the two newest additions to my household, Badger and Harlow. We are hoping that they will be just what our street rescue Hermione, possibly Maine Coon Mix, needs in her life. Hermie has been. Has remained skittish despite being with us since 4 months old. Thank you for what you do. There are many people like myself outside the US that are rooting for democracy and appreciate your efforts to defend America, as imperfect as it may be. Look at her.
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Paula Poundstone
Right in front of the pride flag.
- [34:53]
Allison Gill
Look at that kitty. That pride. Pride kitty.
- [34:56]
Paula Poundstone
Oh, my goodness. Beautiful kitty.
- [34:59]
Allison Gill
Oh, the Maine Coon's beautiful.
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Paula Poundstone
Yeah. And speaking of happy pride to everyone, I'll get to the next one, but it is technically, when you're hearing this, the second day of Pride month, but happy pride to the entire LGBTQIA community. I love you. I see you. Let's get bigger and louder. And yeah, fuck June. Let's do this every day of the year. Okay, moving on to Andrea Pronoun, she and her dear ladies of the Beans. My husband is the one that submitted the photo pun that appeared on the episode quote, politics is no substitute for justice.
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Allison Gill
I love that she's writing.
- [35:33]
Paula Poundstone
I know. I do too. He introduced me to Mueller. She wrote. Subsequently, the Daily Beans was my companion during my 45 minute commute to school while I finished my doctorate. It was like having friends along for the ride as you are all so open about and authentic about your lives and experiences. And your pop culture references are just about in my wheelhouse. Your righteous indignation and passion for justice have lit a fire that has kept me from falling into political apathy or worse, leaving my children to fight the same battles that should have been done over a long time ago. The one bittersweet thing about your show was the good news. Theme song. Float on was the song I remember most from my years at graduate school in Iowa. That was where I met my husband. I began a PhD but became overwhelmed with anxiety and depression and mastered out while he went on to earn his PhD. He was a constant support to me then and now, and also a rare jewel of a husband and the best father I can imagine for our kids. It's a strange coincidence. This year while I was preparing for my thesis defense, I missed a few episodes of the Beans and was surprised when after my defense, I returned to listen and found that float on was no longer being used for the good news segment. Almost like life was ensuring me that I no longer have any regrets. Oh, and the answer to the pun the photo was me and my husband posing with my parents. I am one quote doc in the paradox. Oh, got it. The paradox. Nice. Nice.
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Allison Gill
Okay.
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Paula Poundstone
All right, nice. Attached for Halloween costume taxes my daughter a few years ago as a cat. Oh my God, a cat lady. And yes, her arm is in a cast. Monkey bars are the worst. Much love. Oh my God though. This picture's fantastic.
- [37:15]
Allison Gill
So she dressed up as me for Halloween.
- [37:17]
Paula Poundstone
Oh my God.
- [37:18]
Allison Gill
That's amazing. Congratulations on your doctorate by the way. And yeah, in case you missed the episode, we had to take float on off because we were being removed from YouTube for content violation copyright stuff. So now we've got the new one that I put together. But yeah, good timing, right? Sort of like, hey, new chapter. What a cute baby girl though.
- [37:44]
Paula Poundstone
So sweet.
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Allison Gill
All right, next up from Anonymous pronoun She and her hello ladies. Thanks for your amazing podcast. I'm a dedicated daily listener. I wanted to share the news of Minocqua Brewing Company located in Minocqua, Wisconsin. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. NBC started making progressive beer Progressive Beer after closing their brew pub because Donald Trump played politics with COVID 19 and Mitch McConnell let restaurants twist in the wind. They hung a Biden sign in the reddest part of Wisconsin in defiance of their Republican county board's threat to fine them. They won the battle and they're now focused on brewing awesome beer for people who care about lifting those up that are less fortunate and making politics in Wisconsin as clean as the lakes and streams up north. They have an amazing message and they're doing great things. Please check out their beer names, podcast and Facebook posts. I love that the brewery has a podcast. My left leaning daughter picks me up my favorites Evers Ale and Tammy Shandy whenever she comes home from Wisconsin. They recently brought their beer all the way to Washington to talk with lawmakers and distribute their beer to locally owned liquor stores that were brave enough to sell it. They're also currently brewing Choice Seltzer for women's rights and helping to fundraise for Personal pac, which is an important reproductive rights group in Chicago. Cheers for Choice event on June 6. They are also attempting to sue politicians who were part of the election fraud schemes in Wisconsin. Excellent. So it's Minocqua Brewing Company. That's M I N O C Q U A Minocqua Brewing Company. Like you, they're doing whatever it takes to stop the Republican corruption and keep the important topics in front of voters. I believe their hard work deserves a little boost from you and your listeners. Please check them out. Sorry, no woobies or pet pics, but I do have a pic of a recent Biden beer that I enjoyed. Thanks. Beans Queens. Look at that.
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Paula Poundstone
That's awesome.
- [39:33]
Allison Gill
I like that glass. It's like one of those insulated coldi glasses.
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Paula Poundstone
I know. That's fun. All right. This is from Amanda Pronoun sheen her hello defenders of justice and bringers the bringers of good news. Bringers the bringers of good news. Thank you for keeping me informed and mostly sane through the pandemic. It's been a tough two years. Amen. Amanda. I've been trying to hold out and say this good news, but you all seem like you could use some extra love in your day. Damn right. And I'll attempt to share it without writing a full novel. After years of talking about, quote, one day adopting a baby, we have two biological children already. We decided to take the plunge and start the process, but a little differently than we thought we would. We signed up for to be foster parents. We finished our classes, submitted all the paperwork, got the house all ready, and completed our home studies. Yesterday I heard that we were approved locally and now we're just waiting to be approved by the state and then we can start offering our home to foster children in need. This has been a process, but I'm so glad that we are doing it because the need is great and I fear it will only increase. I was told during our home study that the local DCS is in need of foster homes, that there are children sleeping on the floor in the shelters. It's fucking heartbreaking. Now we live in a very red county and all of our family conservatives insert Dana gagging here. There you go. I've asked this repeatedly, why on earth would we consider fostering? What if you get a kid who steals from you or is violent or their parents use drugs? You fucking love them and show them what a safe place is. That's what you do. Amen. Amanda. It's enraging. I'll leave out my Roe v. Wade correctional system reform liberal agenda lectures for the sake of time with laughter. But the good news is we are only we're one form being signed away from getting to be a safe haven for a few children. I'm so happy about that. So maybe if you're listening and you've been on the fence about becoming a foster parent, maybe this can be the nudge to look into it more. So I'll leave you with my personal motto for the year. Lead with love, because fucking hell, we need it. I'm not sure the fucking hell part is part of the quote. I think it's just lead with love, but we definitely fucking need it.
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Allison Gill
Yeah.
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Paula Poundstone
I've attached to my good news Rant novel a picture of this past Halloween. My husband and I let each kid pick their costume first. Then we take turns matching one of them. This year I made my own hell costume for only double what it would have cost to buy it pre made. That's hilarious. Thank you to the whole MSW team and podcast partners for what you do because it's desperately needed and thoroughly enjoyed. And that is a freaking awesome costume.
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Allison Gill
You made that.
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Paula Poundstone
That's hot.
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Allison Gill
That's hot af. Right?
- [42:19]
Paula Poundstone
Right.
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Allison Gill
I would wear that to the store. I would just. I just wear that all the time.
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Paula Poundstone
Oh, my God. Your family's awesome too. I just want to hang out with y' all.
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Allison Gill
That beard is amazing.
- [42:28]
Paula Poundstone
You got the Ghostbusters. I know. That is a good beard.
- [42:31]
Allison Gill
Oh my God, this is so good. That HELA is fantastic.
- [42:35]
Paula Poundstone
Oh, my God. Any child is going to be lucky to be a part of this brood. There's so much love there. And I don't know where the state you live in because it wasn't said, but if you live in a very red county, I know that for a fact. I think they said there's over 30,000 children as part of the foster system in Texas. And as Beto said the last time I heard him speak, they do not have enough beds or money for these children. And this writer, Amanda is correct. They are living and sleeping on the floors. It's a horrifying situation. So if you can wanna. I think I would be a foster fail in a heartbeat. Which is one of the reasons, like, I haven't and just not conducive to my life at this moment. But yes, if it is conducive to your life, please, please look into it.
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Allison Gill
Incredible. That's so inspiring, really. Thank you so much for that. Thanks. Thanks to everybody for sending your stuff in first. The cat lady costume is killing me. I thank you. I got a couple of Halloween photos today.
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Paula Poundstone
Yeah, you sure did.
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Allison Gill
Heck yeah. Keep Sending in those Halloween pictures and then some cute kitties. This was just a great, great day. Thank you so much. And congratulations on the new doctor in the Leguminati. We need as many doctors as we can get so we can take over the world, you know, so we can give everybody free healthcare and stuff.
- [43:49]
Paula Poundstone
Absolutely.
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Allison Gill
We have, like, the weirdest villain plots ever, right? Like, everyone's like, oh, the Democrats are fucking up America. It's like, by giving you free education and healthcare. Yeah.
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Paula Poundstone
I'll get you, my pretty.
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Allison Gill
Yeah. Okay, here we come. Anyway, I'm preaching to the choir, but that's what we do. Hey, do you have any final thoughts before we get out of here today, Dana?
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Paula Poundstone
I do not. I'm just wishing you all the best. I'm grateful for all of you ag. I'm grateful for you. And thanks for. I don't know. That's it. Just gratitude. Find gratitude somewhere in your life today. It's not hard if you look around.
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Allison Gill
I love you, too, my friend. And everyone, right now, healing vibes.
- [44:29]
Paula Poundstone
Yes, Please, over to Dana Travel this weekend. I have to get on an airplane with sinuses like this, and I'm terrified. Oh, Namaste.
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Allison Gill
Okay, thank you. So, are you ready for some feedback? Thank you so much. Everybody will be back tomorrow. Until then, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health, and vote blue over Q. What is it? See in red? Vote blue. I've been AG And I've been dg. And them's the beans. Refried beans.
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Adam Klassfeld
I like refried beans.