Tariff-ied Trump (feat. John Fugelsang)

Summary

The Daily Beans: "Tariff-ied Trump" (feat. John Fugelsang) - May 2, 2025

Hosted by MSW Media

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Introduction

In this episode of The Daily Beans, hosts Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg deliver a comprehensive analysis of the latest political developments surrounding former President Donald Trump’s administration. Featuring a special guest appearance by comedian and activist John Fugelsang, the episode delves into significant legal rulings, controversial policies, corporate upheavals, and more—all infused with the podcast's signature blend of social justice insight and sharp wit.

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Federal Judge Ruling Against Trump's Alien Enemies Act

Timestamp: 03:04

The episode opens with groundbreaking news: a federal judge has declared Donald Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act (AEA) unlawful. Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr., a Trump appointee in the Southern District of Texas, ruled that the administration exceeded the statute's scope by attempting to deport Venezuelan nationals to El Salvador under the AEA.

“Allison Gill: ...the government actually has exceeded the scope of the Alien Enemies act and its use in this context is therefore unlawful.” [03:56]

The ruling is hailed as a significant victory for due process and the protection of immigrant rights, although its final impact remains pending appeals to higher courts.

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Trump's Plan to Deport Migrants to Libya and Rwanda

Timestamp: 05:03

Allison Gill transitions to discuss the Trump administration's controversial proposal to deport migrants with criminal records to countries like Libya and Rwanda. Despite acknowledgment from Secretary of State Marco Rubio that no final decisions have been made, the plan marks a dramatic escalation in the administration's immigration policies.

“Allison Gill: It really was. It's illegal to deport asylum seekers to anywhere asylum seekers under law have the right to seek asylum here in the United States.” [07:27]

Critics argue that such actions not only undermine international law but also expose migrants to unstable and unsafe conditions abroad.

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Tesla's CEO Search and Board's Response

Timestamp: 08:00

The discussion shifts to corporate news involving Tesla. Reports from NBC and the Wall Street Journal suggest that Tesla's board initiated a search for a new CEO, citing Elon Musk's divided focus between Tesla and his involvement with the Trump administration. Despite these reports, Tesla's board chair, Robin Denholm, firmly denies any search for Musk's replacement, affirming confidence in his leadership.

“Allison Gill: ...this means it probably definitely happened.” [09:25]

The conflicting narratives highlight internal tensions within Tesla as the company grapples with declining sales and stock performance.

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RFK Jr.'s Changes to Vaccine Testing Protocols

Timestamp: 14:43

Health policy takes center stage as Allison Gill addresses Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s proposed shift in vaccine testing methods. RFK Jr. plans to require placebo-controlled trials for all new vaccines, a move that medical experts warn could hinder vaccine accessibility and erode public trust in immunization programs.

“Allison Gill: They know this fucking works.” [14:43]

The proposed changes aim for increased transparency but face opposition due to ethical concerns and potential delays in vaccine availability.

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Trump Administration's Rule on Veterans' Homes Foreclosure

Timestamp: 14:43

The episode covers a critical policy shift affecting veterans. Under Trump's administration, a program designed to prevent VA loan foreclosures—VA Servicing Purchase (VASP)—is being terminated. This decision jeopardizes nearly 90,000 VA loans currently in distress, potentially forcing veterans out of their homes.

“Allison Gill: They just shit can the whole billion dollars from Congress.” [11:55]

The policy reversal is met with anxiety among veterans and advocates, emphasizing the precariousness of affordable housing support.

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Removal of Mike Waltz as National Security Advisor and Appointment of Marco Rubio

Timestamp: 11:55

In a significant shakeup within the Trump administration, National Security Advisor Mike Waltz has been ousted and replaced by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who is now juggling multiple high-profile roles. This move comes amid controversies, including Waltz's inappropriate use of the Signal chat app for official communications.

“Allison Gill: I don't trust you, but I trust you.” [12:54]

The rapid reorganization underscores the administration's instability and raises concerns about the consolidation of power within Rubio's expanded portfolio.

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Fugelsang Friday: Conversation with John Fugelsang

Timestamp: 20:51

Comedian and activist John Fugelsang joins the hosts for a lively discussion. They reflect on the alternative White House Correspondents' Dinner organized by independent media, praising its humorous take compared to the official event.

“John Fugelsang: ...independent media is stronger than I thought.” [21:43]

The conversation then shifts to the Conclave movie, exploring its themes of spirituality versus religion, and the humorous interplay between political satire and serious discourse.

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Good News Segment: Listener Submissions

Timestamp: 15:49 and onward

The hosts transition to the "Good News" segment, featuring uplifting stories and listener contributions. Highlights include successful grassroots protests against Congressman Daryl Issa, heartwarming tales of animal rescues, and personal accounts of overcoming adversity with the help of government assistance programs.

“Allison Gill: You are a wonderful start to each day.” [50:28]

These stories offer a refreshing balance to the episode's intense political discussions, showcasing resilience and community support.

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Conclusion

Wrapping up, Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg emphasize the importance of community, mental health, and staying informed. They encourage listeners to engage with the podcast by sharing their own good news and maintaining activism against oppressive policies.

“Allison Gill: Take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health, and take care of your family.” [43:56]

The episode concludes with acknowledgments of the show's contributors and a reminder to tune in for future updates.

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Notable Quotes

• Allison Gill at [05:51]: “Isn't that great? Now, this only applies, like I said, to the Southern District. It's a huge win.”

• Dana Goldberg at [11:12]: “Trust me, they are causing a problem where now you're escalating this mental health issue with people that need it, that don't fall under your quote, unquote, bullshit definition of diversity, equity, inclusion.”

• John Fugelsang at [24:07]: “Donald Trump pardoned the Camp Auschwitz guy. Donald Trump had Simeon Childman, Nazi, Nick Fuentes and Kanye to his house for an all you can write Thanksgiving dinner.”

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Final Thoughts

The Daily Beans episode "Tariff-ied Trump" delivers a potent mix of critical news analysis, insightful discussions, and empowering stories. Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg, alongside guest John Fugelsang, navigate the complexities of current political landscapes with both gravity and levity, making it a must-listen for those seeking informed and engaging perspectives on today's pressing issues.

For more information and to listen to the episode, visit mswmedia.com.

Transcript

[Allison Gill]

MSW Media. Hello, and welcome to the Daily beans for Friday, May 2, 2025. Today, for the first time, a federal judge has ruled that Trump's use of the Alien Enemies act is unlawful. The guy who put the Atlantic journalist on the signal chat, Mike Waltz, has been fired from the National Security Council, but has also been nominated as the ambassador to the UN RFK junior Is going to change the way vaccines are tested. That could limit our access to them. Trump weighs disappearing people to Rwanda and Libya. The Tesla board opened a search for a new CEO last month, but they're denying that they did that. And a new Trump rule puts veterans homes in foreclosure. I'm Allison Gill.

[Dana Goldberg]

And I'm Dana Goldberg.

[Allison Gill]

We made it through another week. Yay.

[Dana Goldberg]

Did we.

[Allison Gill]

Did we.

[Dana Goldberg]

Did we make it? Or are we crawling over the finish line?

[Allison Gill]

I know. Well, well done, everyone who's still here. Seriously, in Libya, Rwanda or El Salvador. What the hell? I know. Did you see the Eric Swalwell video where he and. And Jasmine Crockett did a live Instagram, too, from outside the judiciary, the House Judiciary chamber, where they voted the. The Republicans on the House Judiciary voted to give Trump power to deport U. S. Citizens.

[Dana Goldberg]

It's just disgusting.

[Allison Gill]

Like, what the. What are we even doing? We're getting out and we're protesting. That's what we're doing. Mayday.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, we're blocking. We're getting in the way of this happening. Physically getting in the way of this happening. Yes, if we need to.

[Allison Gill]

Tons of people turned out to the May Day protests for the rule of law. So thanks to everybody who was out there fighting the good fight. And also thanks to John Fugelsang who's gonna join us later in the show. Cause it's feaglsang Friday on the week. Yes, indeed. We're gonna talk about Conclave, the real one, and the movie.

[Dana Goldberg]

So good. So good. And no one would know better than John. He is one of the most educated people I've ever met when it comes to Catholicism and it comes to the Bible. And, man, he knows how to argue an argument in the best ways because he knows that book in and out and how it's supposed to be interpreted.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. And he's got a book coming out called the Separation of Church and Hate.

[Dana Goldberg]

Nice.

[Allison Gill]

I'm very much looking forward to getting my. My copy of that book. All right, we have a lot of news to get to today, and we have a lot of good news as well. So let's kick it off. Let's hit the Hot notes, hot new notes. All right, first up, huge immigration news as a federal judge becomes the first to declare Trump's use of the Alien Enemies act unlawful. And the kicker? It's a Trump appointee in the Southern District of Texas.

[Dana Goldberg]

I love it. I love it.

[Allison Gill]

I know from me on Substack. The source today is me. This is it. The moment we've all been waiting for is Trump's use of the Alien Enemies act to disappear Venezuelan nationals to a gulag in El Salvador even legal? According to Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr. A Trump appointee in the Southern District of Texas, the answer is no. So how do we get here? Well, we know the Supreme Court decided that disputes under the Alien Enemies act must be resolved using habeas petitions in the districts where the petitioners are being detained. This is one of those cases. The judge concluded that according to basic dictionary definitions and historical understanding of the terms invasion and predatory incursion, that the government actually has exceeded the scope of the Alien Enemies act and its use in this context is therefore unlawful.

[Dana Goldberg]

Fantastic.

[Allison Gill]

I know there are a host of factors the judge considered in his 36 page ruling. It's linked in my substack@muller she wrote dot com. But it all boils down to whether the Trump administration's argument that it gets to define the terms of the statute is persuasive. It's not. The court has concluded that jav, JGG and wg, in their individual capacity and as representatives of their certified, have demonstrated entitlement to relief in habeas. Respondents have designated or will designate them as alien enemies under the proclamation subjecting them to unlawful detention, transfer and removal under the aea. And as a result, jav, JGG and JGG is the original case that went up to Boseberg and WGH are each entitled to the granting of their petition for a writ of habeas corpus and a permanent injunction prohibiting respondents from employing the proclamation and the Alien Enemies act against them. The certified class warrants similar protection. A certified class here is the Southern District of Texas and all detainees that are, you know, being threatened to be deported to El Salvador.

[Dana Goldberg]

Got it?

[Allison Gill]

And I say deported. It shouldn't be disappeared to El Salvador. The judge said the court will issue a final judgment with the appropriate relief. To the extent that the plaintiffs or any member of the certified class have been detained or are detained in the future pursuant to the Immigration and Nationality act, they have not sought to and do not obtain any relief. In addition, the conclusions of the court do not affect respondents ability to continue to remove or enforce removal of any final orders of removal issued against jav, JG and WGH or against any member of the certified class under the Immigration and Nationality Act. So this judge is like, I am stopping your removal under the Alien Enemies act, but not under the Immigration and Nationality Act. So the Trump administration can consider deportation under the ina, but that requires due process.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, look at that.

[Allison Gill]

Isn't that great? Now, this only applies, like I said, to the Southern District. It's a huge win. We'll see what the 5th Circuit and the Supreme Court have to say about it on appeal.

[Dana Goldberg]

All right. Thanks, Alison. This one's from cnn. The Trump administration has discussed with Libya and Rwanda the possibility of sending migrants who have criminal records and are in the United States to those two countries. That's according to multiple sources familiar with these talks. The proposals mark a dramatic escalation in the administration's push to deter people from journeying to the United States and remove some of those already here to countries thousands of miles away, some of which have checkered pasts. Now, President Donald Trump signed an executive order in January directing top officials to facilitate international cooperation and agreements to send asylum seekers elsewhere. In addition to sending migrants with criminal records, Trump officials are also hoping to enter formal negotiations with Libya to strike a, quote, so called safe third country agreement which would allow the US to send asylum seekers apprehended at the US Border to Libya. According to one of the sources, no decisions have been made yet, and it's unclear which nationalities would be eligible. Multiple sources said the State Department is in talks with other countries about taking migrants in addition to Libya and Rwanda. And I quote, I say this unapologetically, we are actively searching for other countries to take people from third countries. This is Secretary of State Marco Rubio. He said that in that Cabinet meeting that was very North Korean on Wednesday.

[Allison Gill]

It really was. It's illegal to deport asylum seekers to anywhere asylum seekers under law have the right to seek asylum here in the United States. Congress passed that law. So I'm not sure that.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, they'll try. They'll get it all locked up in.

[Allison Gill]

The courts and they'll try it first and then.

[Dana Goldberg]

Exactly. Can see how far they can push it.

[Allison Gill]

Shoot first, aim later. Just, just abhorrent, really. I don't, I, I'm running out of adjectives for what the. This administration is doing. Just.

[Dana Goldberg]

Good one.

[Allison Gill]

Just what the. Every day. And in a follow up from yesterday's Wall Street Journal story about the Tesla board searching for a new CEO, NBC is reporting. The chair of Tesla's Board has denied the company initiated a hunt for a new CEO last month as Elon Musk's attention was on his work with the Trump administration. Tesla's board has reached out to executive search firms to begin a formal process to replace Musk as CEO. And that was according to the Wall Street Journal. But Wednesday night, citing people familiar with the discussions, the Wall Street Journal noted that investors were irritated by Musk's focus on his role overseeing Doge while Tesla's stock plunged and sales continued to drop. I am not sure why the Tesla board of directors doesn't understand that the farther away Musk is from Tesla, the better Tesla might do.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, and it's not just him. There is a board, there's investors. There are people that actually care about this company and do not want to see it drown.

[Allison Gill]

But the board is denying this because hours after that article was published by the Wall Street Journal, Tesla posted a statement on Twitter from its board chair, Robin Denholm, denying that it had contacted recruiters to start the search for a new CEO. Quote, this is absolutely false. And this was communicated to the media before the report was published. That's what Denholm said, adding that the board was highly confident in Musk. So that means it probably definitely happened.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah. This one is from abc. The Trump administration is moving to cancel a billion dollars in school ment grants saying they reflect the priorities of the previous administration. You kidding me? Grant recipients were notified Tuesday that the funding will not be continued after this year. A gun violence bill signed by Democratic President Joe Biden in 2022 sent a billion dollars to the grant programs to help schools hire more psychologists, counselors and other mental health workers.

[Allison Gill]

And hey, Dana, that bill that the President signed was passed by Congress.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yes. Not an executive order passed by Congress. A new notice said in an Education Department review of the programs found they violated the purpose of civil rights law, conflicted with the department's policy of prioritizing merit and fairness, and amounted to an inappropriate use of federal money. Why cut this funding? Well, the cuts were made public. A social media post from conservative strategist Christopher Ruffo, who claimed the money was used to advance. You ready for this? And I quote, left wing racialism. Oh, yeah, you'd know. And discrimination.

[Allison Gill]

Racialism. Yeah, just a word usement.

[Dana Goldberg]

He posted excerpts from several grant documents setting goals to hire certain numbers of non white counselors or pursue other diversity, equity and inclusion policies. I am so tired of this, like the lack of mental health in this country already and now you're taking it away from the School, like funding away from the schools.

[Allison Gill]

And they're using DEI to do it. They're saying that because they wanted to, you know, hire multicultural mental health counselors for schools. Because this all came out of Uvalde.

[Dana Goldberg]

Right. And you know what? If you look at the pattern of mass shooters in this country, trust me, they are white CIS boys or men. The majority of them are. So you're actually causing a problem where now you're escalating this mental health issue with people that need it, that don't fall under your quote, unquote, bullshit definition of diversity, equity, inclusion.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. And forgive me, maybe I'm incorrect, but I thought that the Republicans answer to gun violence was mental health.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yep.

[Allison Gill]

And now they're. Because there's a provision in here that, that is involved with diversity, equity, inclusion. They just. They just shit can the whole billion dollars from Congress. So I hope they. So I hope somebody sues.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yep.

[Allison Gill]

Because this is congressionally appropriated money. I mean, my God. All right, next up from Reuters, US President Trump has ousted his national Security advisor, Mike Waltz on Thursday and named Secretary of State Marco Rubio as his interim replacement in the first major shakeup of Trump's inner circle since he took office in January. Trump, in a social media post, said he would nominate Waltz, though, to be the next U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. Like, I don't trust you, but I trust you. He added that quote, he has worked hard to put our nation's interests first. Okay, so that means Rubio now has four jobs. Secretary of State, head of the National Archives, National Security Advisor, and head of usaid. That's four jobs. Four jobs. He has as many jobs as the number of jurisdictions Trump was indicted in. Also, Reuters released a photo of Mike Waltz in a Cabinet meeting. That cab. That North Korean Cabinet meeting. And he was on his phone using signal. There's. There's one message from J.D.

[Dana Goldberg]

Vance.

[Allison Gill]

If you zoom in on it, J.D. vance says, I have confirmation from my counterpart. It's turned off.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, my God.

[Allison Gill]

I don't know what. What is turned off. Not signal. Talking on it. He also missed a voice call from Tulsi Gabbard.

[Dana Goldberg]

It looks like they're not going to get it. And I saw something that Trump was basically, doesn't give a shit about this. The Ambassador to the United Nations. He doesn't care about this post. Otherwise he would have stepped in when El was, you know, pulled from it. Yes. Phonic was Stefanik. Is that right?

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, I think so.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah. He didn't. I mean, he didn't really care about it. So he's basically like, I don't want to show that I'm starting a turmoil of my first term. So I'm not going to fire you. I'm just going to put you over there in a position that I really don't give a shit about and I'm not paying attention to.

[Allison Gill]

And I hate the U.N. so, yeah, that's it.

[Dana Goldberg]

That's it.

[Allison Gill]

All right.

[Dana Goldberg]

This one's from the Post Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Well, he intends to shift the way vaccines are tested, a move that the agency said was going to increase transparency but that medical experts fear could limit access to vaccines and undermine the public's trust in immunization depending on its implementation. Well, the potential change outlined in a statement says all new vaccines will be required to undergo placebo testing, a procedure in which some people receive the vaccine and others receive an inert substance such as saline shot before the results are compared. Vaccines for new pathogens are often tested this way. In fact, for the last 75 years, new vaccines have been tested in placebo controlled trials. They've been doing this, but for well researched diseases such as measles and polio, public health experts say it makes little sense to do that and can be unethical because the placebo group would not receive a known effective intervention. They know this fucking works.

[Allison Gill]

I think it's probably got something to do with making it easier for his pals at his law firm to sue. Yeah, for vaccine, whatever. All right, from RAW story. At a time when veterans with VA loans are struggling to keep their homes out of foreclosure, the Veterans Administration under Donald Trump's stewardship has decided to pull the plug on a program built specifically to keep them in their homes. According to a report from npr, the program known as VA Servicing Purchase, or vasp, is on the chopping block with the approval of Republicans who feel Joe Biden unilaterally forced it on the country. As NPR's Chris Arnold Quill Lawrence wrote, VASP helps veterans who have fallen behind in their home payments by placing them in a program that lumps the delinquent amount into a separate very low interest rate loan that the VA owns outright. Without that support, Dana, there's a risk that nearly 90,000 VA loans that are in trouble with a third that are already in foreclosure will come due and force veterans out of their homes if they can't find alternate loans to fill the gap. 90,000.

[Dana Goldberg]

All right, last story in the Hot Notes. It really is some exhausting sometimes Y'all. So I'm glad you're staying with us and tuning in. We're going to mix in some good trouble, good stories, all that stuff.

[Allison Gill]

I think we should, like, dance between the stories now.

[Dana Goldberg]

Trump has asked the Supreme Court to overturn a lower court's order that restored Biden's temporary protected status for 300,000 Venezuelan nationals. The temporary protected status statute is explicitly clear that no TPS designated designation can be terminated until it expires. And that's exactly what Kristi Noem tried to do before she was blocked. This is Trump's 12th emergency application to the court.

[Allison Gill]

Supreme Court. Yeah. My God. What? You know what this feels like? It feels like he wants to take the temporary status away from Venezuelan nationals so that he can call them all members of Trend and disappear them to El Salvador.

[Dana Goldberg]

And then they're like, we. We can't get them back. We don't know how. We can't get him back.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. Oh, no. Well, we asked, and he said no. Yeah. Boy. Boy, you are a giant piece of shit if you can't get Bukele to do something that is just 100% evidence that he didn't.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah.

[Allison Gill]

Anyway, all right, we need. We need to lift our spirits a little bit. So we're going to get into some good trouble, and then we're going to do some good news. So let's do it. Let's get into some good trouble. What are you guys doing? All right. Some homegrown San Diego good trouble for you. This is from a listener. Hi. Amazing. Queens of the beans. Thanks to Allison, we successfully hosted a town hall for over 800 people to express their frustrations with Daryl Issa's lack of representation. Now we're ramping up our efforts against him. Issa, a career politician and carpetbagger, has been in Congress for 24 years, shifting from district to district to stay in power after redistricting. He now represents California's very red 48th district, leaving many voters feeling misled and confused. With your help, we can reach these disgruntled constituents, build a grassroots coalition, and expose ISA. We have launched a campaign the cure to ISA regrets syndrome. Call 1-833-GET-ISA-ESA for information on symptoms, management tips, and how to take action, including weekly protests and contacting his office. For more details, visit gotisa.com Please share our graphic on social media to spread the word. And if you need help with your own campaign against undemocratic lawmakers, we can help you set that up where you live, too. Thank you so much. We'll have links to that in the show notes. And this is, this is your good trouble. Help us out here. This guy has been whack. A mole. Moves to one district, gets defeated, moves to another district, gets defeated, resigns, comes back, runs again in a super red district after, after redistricting, wins. Now we got to just get him out forever. And I'm just, I'm tired of him.

[Dana Goldberg]

Let's do it.

[Allison Gill]

I am tired of this man. All right, everybody, we have to get some good news into your ears. But first, we're going to take a quick break. Stick around. We'll be right back after these messages. Hey, everybody. If you've ever dreamed of transforming your yard but felt overwhelmed about where to begin, Fast Growing Trees makes it easy. As the largest online nursery in the United States, they offer thousands of options including fruit trees, flowering shrubs, privacy trees, and even indoor plants. They have over 2 million happy customers and they've built a reputation for reliability and exceptional plant quality. And I can confirm one thing I really appreciate about Fast Growing Trees is how much guesswork they eliminate. Each plant goes through a 14 point quality checklist to ensure it arrives healthy and ready to thrive in your space. And their alive and thrive guarantee adds even more peace of mind. And their plant experts are ready to help with selection and ongoing care tips. I remember when my guacamole garden from Fast Growing Trees arrived. I had wanted one for ages but thought the, you know that it's just the idea of lugging them a lemon tree, a lime tree and an avocado tree from home, from a nursery or a store. It kept holding me back. So instead I placed the order online. A few days later, they were right at my doorstep. They were well packaged and they were healthy and strong. And now it's guacamole time. With millions of satisfied customers behind them, Fast Growing Trees really does deliver on their promise. So if you're thinking about sprucing up your space this spring, I highly recommend checking them out this spring. They have the best deals for your yard, up to half off select plants and other deals and listeners to this show. You get a 15% off discount of your first purchase when using the code DailyBeans at checkout. That's an additional 15% off at fastgrowingtrees.com using the code DailyBeans at checkout. Again, fastgrowingtrees.com code DailyBeans now is the perfect time to plant. Use daily beans to save today. Offer is valid for a limited time. Terms and conditions may apply. Hey everybody. Welcome Back. It is Friday on the Daily Beans. That means it's Fugal Sang Friday. So please welcome my good friend, host of Tell me everything on SiriusXM progress channel 127 weeknights, 9pm Eastern, 6 Pacific. And of course host of the John Fugalsang show podcast. If you don't have Sirius because his podcast is free. Wherever you get your podcast, please welcome John Fugelsang.

[John Fugelsang]

Thank you, Allison. Good to see you. Thanks for knocking him dead on not the White House Correspondence Dinner.

[Allison Gill]

Thank you so much. Thanks for putting me up first. I took the bullet and I loved it. It was fantastic. It was a great, great time. And my favorite part was normally on social media, especially in the social media circles I run in, there are multitudes of clips from the White House. The real White House Correspondent's Dinner.

[John Fugelsang]

Oh, every year, always.

[Allison Gill]

I saw zero. And in fact, when the Washington Post and the White House Correspondent's host got up at the actual White House Correspondence Dinner and said, it's going to be weird this year. There's no president, no comedian, it's just us. It was a big prick waving dick fight for the corporate media congratulating themselves and patting themselves on the back and nobody watched it. And I think everybody watched the Not White House Correspondence Dinner, which is still available to watch, right?

[John Fugelsang]

Still available to watch as a pay per view. And let me say, if you are feeling down at all in the next few months, get yourself a copy of this because, man, so many great minds and great comedians and influencers. It came together as you know, Dr. Gill, extremely quickly. The folks Political Voices Network said, hey, let's do this. And you know, I'm all about independent media and this was the sort of thing that only independent media could do and slap together really quickly in about eight or nine days. And so, yeah, it wound up being really popular. I just found out, Allison, we're getting paid from this. A lot of people were looking for a comedic alternative and it turns out independent media is stronger than I thought. With only a few days to promote, we're all getting paid because people were starved for something that made fun of all of this. Just like they're starved for politicians who are not going to be hateful but are going to stand up and say this isn't normal and obstruct business. So, you know, I was proud to be a part of it. You were a revelation. The producers wanted to put you first because your stuff was so damn good. But like, we got Glenn Kirschner telling jokes for God's sakes. And people would people a million followers on, you know, Twitter and Brooklyn dad and JoJo from jurors. And then like great comics like Alonzo Bowden and Elaine Boosler. It was just a hoot. Came together really quick. And thank you for. Look, I just want. Anytime I can work with you outside of school, I'm always happy for it.

[Allison Gill]

So it was fun. It was fun. At first I was gonna try to do it live somewhere, and then I was like, no, you know what's funnier? Just cut it up into really bad photo video shopped videos and go that way. And when your opening joke is, hi, I'm Alison Gill and there's crickets in the audience because nobody knows your name. I'm like the opposite of Norm on Cheers. Everybody knows me by something other than my actual name. It was. I was like, we just gotta. We just gotta run with it. So we, yeah, we put it together in a day or two and it worked out real well. And it was. I was honored to be a part of it. So everybody can check that out. Where is it? Meathook Live not.

[John Fugelsang]

Meat hook. M E T Hook Live not. I do have to say we did turn a profit, but because of the tariffs, we're going to need you to pay us, Allison. That's what I forgot to say as well. Yeah. Yeah. And the price is now $4,000 to watch the pay per view with. But it's not Jeff Bezos fault. It's not Jeff Bezos fault, people. I'll put a tariff cost on the pay per view.

[Allison Gill]

You might have to go from $30 to $2. You might have to go from 30 jokes to two jokes, but it's still very funny.

[John Fugelsang]

These weasels, Jeff Bezos, like, he won't let the paper endorse Harris and he won't let the op ed page take on Trump. And he gives Trump millions for the inaugural and he gives Melania $30 million for a propaganda documentary. Ooh. But I've got to put the tariff costs on amaz. Nobody will think any of this is my fault.

[Allison Gill]

But then he won't. Because Trump called him and complained.

[John Fugelsang]

Then he won't. Yeah, exactly right. But it's. But that shows. But. But the very. The story there is not that he caved. The story is that Trump called because they are so. They know the tariffs aren't working. And they are so terrified that people are going to start. Terrified. That's it. They're terrified. It's like if McDonald's put the calorie count on their menu. Like, oh, you want to see the damage? Go ahead, take a look. So they're horrified that, like, because if Amazon were to do it, then Walmart's gonna do it, Etsy's gonna do it. They don't want people to know how much extra they're paying on a Trump tax. So I thought the real story was how terrified this White House was, and I could live with that.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Fugelsang]

Sort of like. Sort of like the Mike Waltz story. I came here already to talk to you about, you know, stuff going on, but, like, whoa, what are they doing over there?

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. Oh, and real life. We're gonna talk about Waltz in a second because Tim Waltz put on Twitter. Mike Waltz has left the chat, which I thought was really, really just funny. He's so funny. We. Boy, we missed out on an incredible vice president.

[John Fugelsang]

Yeah.

[Allison Gill]

But I also wanted to talk to you about, like, real life Conclave, movie stuff happening in real life. Conclave. Conclave. Because apparently one of the cardinals, the. The Pope, before he died, left a note saying that one of the cardinals was not going to be eligible to be pope, to be considered because. Or I don't think he was saying he couldn't even be in the Conclave.

[John Fugelsang]

He couldn't be in the Conclave because.

[Allison Gill]

He had stolen 140 million euros from the Church. Something like that. And it's not simony like they did in the. In the movie. But, like, I just watched, because we'll talk to you last week, you're like, go watch Conclave. I watched it. It's incredible.

[John Fugelsang]

It's great, right? I mean, it's like. It's a thriller. I was thinking, God, I got away from the Catholic Church. I don't know if I want to spend two hours with these people. It's such a great thriller. But then in the end, it becomes the most surprisingly spiritual movie without any miracles that I've ever seen. I mean, Ralph Fine's face deserved an Oscar for that performance, but, yeah, fantastic.

[Allison Gill]

And Stanley Tucci looks lovely in red.

[John Fugelsang]

Well, I think the Pope might have done his whole death just to get more people to watch Conclave. I'm starting to think that maybe Francis was just that big a fan, but it's quite possible.

[Allison Gill]

But he left a note.

[John Fugelsang]

He left a note.

[Allison Gill]

And this guy has.

[John Fugelsang]

Is like the Pope in the movie, just like the dead Pope in the movie. I couldn't.

[Allison Gill]

And I'm like, did Ralph Fiennes go into the. Break the Seal and go in and find the note? Like, who found it?

[John Fugelsang]

But, yeah, this guy was The Vatican has its own criminal court, and Cardinal Angelo Batu was convicted two years ago of embezzlement and other finance related problems, or what they called the trial of the century. But he's been walking around saying, well, even though I was convicted, I'm still allowed to vote. You know, look at Trump. Two impeachments. I can still be here. But now he can't because apparently they gave him a letter that Pope Francis wrote before he died saying, no, you don't want to do this. And nobody knows what the letter said, but dude pulled himself out of the running.

[Allison Gill]

I want to see the letter.

[John Fugelsang]

I want to see the letter, too.

[Allison Gill]

Maybe we could all hit Ralph Fiennes up. I know he has it. I know he has it.

[Dana Goldberg]

It.

[Allison Gill]

What an outstanding cast in that film, though. If you haven't got a chance to see it.

[John Fugelsang]

God, the movie.

[Allison Gill]

Isabella Rossellini is fantastic.

[John Fugelsang]

She's never she great. Stanley Tucci, John Lipkow, I mean, these people in small roles. But it really, really seems to be a movie about why religion sucks. And it winds up being a movie about how spirituality is more powerful than religion. I. I was not ready for how great that film was.

[Allison Gill]

Right. And when Benitez says, the church isn't the past, the church is what we do next, I was like, oh, it gave me chills. And he's. His is just beautiful Spanish. Anyway, enough about conclave. It starts May 7th.

[John Fugelsang]

Men in dresses, folks. Men in dresses. That's all we're talking about here.

[Allison Gill]

My friend Joel, I had her watch Conclave. And she's like, you know what? They should have a nail polish called Conclave. That color is just a beautiful red that they. I agree. We got to put it in Pete Hegseth's makeup studio at the Pentagon.

[John Fugelsang]

That's right. And a little puff of white smoke will come up whenever you get your nails done. I can see it right now from.

[Allison Gill]

Anheuser Busch saying that we've selected a new Secretary of Defense.

[John Fugelsang]

Yes. Is Pete Hexif allowed to mention women in the Pentagon anymore? I'm not sure if that's. Even if that's. If that's too woke at this point after the Women Peace and Security program that he murdered this. I mean, I was wondering what you thought about this, Dr. Gill, because I thought about you when I heard about this. That.

[Allison Gill]

No, man. Rubio's co sponsored bill.

[John Fugelsang]

Oh, no, no. It's a UN program pushed by feminists and left wing activists. He literally said it's a woke divisive social justice. Biden Initiative.

[Allison Gill]

You might want to Google it first.

[John Fugelsang]

Trump signed into law in 2017. These alcoholic knobs. These. I mean, Donald Trump, like, pretended to support women back 2017. He cared about making women think he cared about women, so he pretended to support this because Ivanka probably drew it on a napkin and glitter pen. And now he doesn't need women anymore. They're expendable. You know, he's got this militia full of proud boys. So Hegseth, who makes Ted Nugent look like Madeleine Albright is the hatchet man and kills this thing because it has the word peace in it, helping women not get shot. Helping women not get shot in a war zone is now woke. That's. I mean, even China and Russia are like, yeah, women not getting shot in war zones. I'm behind this.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, but Pete Hegseth is like, no, no, no, no, no. See, why are you leaving white men out of this? Why can't white men, Christians, not get shot in war zones? Where's their group? That's what. That's what this is all based on.

[John Fugelsang]

This thing is more Trumpian than Lindsey Graham's wishboard. And, you know, the whole thing is, Hegseth, there are things in my fridge that will last longer than his career in public service.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, but who will he be replaced with? You know, my bet is Johnny McEntee, the guy who wrote the Afghanistan withdrawal thing and all that. The guy who used to hide Smirnoff off ices in the presidential personnel office.

[John Fugelsang]

I mean, we know it's not going to be because they're qualified. We know it's going to be because they're obedient.

[Allison Gill]

And how many Smirnoff ices you can chug? That's where it comes from.

[John Fugelsang]

Or if you're Mike Waltz, how can you fail up into two different jobs?

[Allison Gill]

I mean, I remember UN Ambassador.

[John Fugelsang]

Okay, so Trump fires in the morning for leaking war plans in a group chat and then promotes him the same day to be UN Ambassador. I mean, it's just like Trump's like, you leak classified war plans. You're incompetent enough to represent me at the UN this guy should be playing quarterback for the New York Jets. He's so incompetent. But Trump puts him up there. And now Marco Rubio is the Secretary of State and the National Security Advisor, and he's running USAID and the Archives, and I think he's going to run NASA and Chick Fil A as well. Henry Kissinger had both of these jobs, and it ended so badly. They were like, let's never do this again. And Trump's like, let's let little Marco to it. And this Guy Waltzer was begging for war with Iran is now going to be our face at the un which is devoted to peace. It's like. It's like they sent Guy Fieri to do famine relief.

[Allison Gill]

Well, these. The war plans attacking the Houthis in Yemen is the pretext for bombing Iran. So, yeah, I mean, but it's beautiful.

[John Fugelsang]

Because on the surface, it seems like, all right, this is not a reshuffle. It's. It's. The Titanic deck chair is being rearranged by a drunk raccoon with a flamethrower. But, Allison, by nominating waltz to the U.N. the Senate gets to question him now under oath. This is the dumbest game of hide and seek. Trump could have played like, you can't snatch this guy away at the U.N.

[Allison Gill]

Maybe that was incident. Maybe that was on purpose.

[John Fugelsang]

You know, the hearings are going to go on for months. Xi Jinping is watching this like a reality. Xi Jinping likes this more than Love Island. He is just laughing at us right now.

[Allison Gill]

I mean, and by the way, Ed Martin's nomination is a little bit up in the air right now. Grassley's like, I'm looking at a few things. My pigeons. I'm talking my pigeons. He's got a conclave of pigeons he talks to. And that one of them can't vote, though, because it stole a bunch of stuff. But he. So now I think it's Dick Durbin is like, well, I'm not even going to bring this to a vote until it's on the calendar. And Grassley's like, I don't know if it's going to be on the calendar. Ed Martin, by the way, January 6th, insurrectionist election. Denier, interim U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. Apparently, he went and erased all of his old podcasts where he loves Nazis a little too much.

[John Fugelsang]

Oh, it's a good thing the Internet's not forever. It's a good thing that'll never surface again.

[Allison Gill]

And he declared that that one guy who literally has a Hitler mustache and does Nazi salutes, he had no idea that that guy was a Nazi.

[John Fugelsang]

So, As I say, 10 times a day, Donald Trump pardoned the Camp Auschwitz guy. Donald Trump had Simeon Childman, Nazi, Nick Fuentes and Kanye to his house for an all you can write Thanksgiving dinner. I mean, the notion that they care about antisemitism because his daughter married a mediocre Jewish man is ridiculous.

[Allison Gill]

Well, there's gonna Be a lot of news between now. Not that there hasn't been a week. That's been slow. I don't think there's been a week where I've been like, man, we don't have anything to talk about this week.

[John Fugelsang]

Yeah, it hasn't happened yet, by the way, Alison, you know, America needs more babies and we need to deport some babies. Those two things are happening at the same time. We have to deport babies, and you women have got to make more babies. It's almost like they're leaving out an adjective about color in these directives.

[Allison Gill]

I was gonna say it. Which babies are you talking about? That. That really kind of dictates all of this.

[John Fugelsang]

Yeah. Babies with cancer. Babies with cancer.

[Allison Gill]

Thank you, citizen. Babies with cancer.

[John Fugelsang]

Citizen Babies with cancer.

[Allison Gill]

And then they said, oh, well, we asked the mom who they wanted to do, and the mom's like, no, they told me that I had to take my child and sign a piece of paper saying that I was taking my child.

[John Fugelsang]

Yep. And that's the, that's the, that's the maga Christian argument. They. We want to make the babies stay here and die without their mothers. Or you can take it with you. But, you know, this is, this is what they're. They're, they're very happy to have these babies die, American citizens. But you can't deport a citizen. I gotta stop saying deportation because it's not. It's trafficking. But Marco Rubio, this, this slithery bootlicker says we only deport to the mothers. The kids just tagged along. They're free to come back if someone wants to assume them. I mean, like five years keepers, right? And you know, he's like, if you're here illegally, you get deported. But if they don't get a hearing, the deportation is not legal. Marco Rubio is the illegal. Donald Trump and Pam Bondi are the illegals. And as I've had to say to so many people on my show this week, Allison, how does deporting a dying 2 year old improve your life?

[Allison Gill]

Well, because it's brown people. It's fewer brown people in the United States and citizens particularly, who can. Who can vote. And, you know, everything they've done and are doing is based on this weird eugenics, you know, great replacement theory shit. That's what January 6th was about. Everybody correct? The fear. Putting the fear into mediocre white men that they will no longer be the majority. And that's what drives a lot of this. A lot of actual peer reviewed studies are showing that. And so we have now people who try to shame, like Elon Musk for having 8,000 children don't realize that he is proud that he has fathered that many children. That's his goal is.

[John Fugelsang]

Yes, it's true. We have to think about what kind of a world are we going to leave to all of his thousands of children.

[Allison Gill]

Exactly.

[John Fugelsang]

We got to start talking about that.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, we really do.

[John Fugelsang]

Yeah. He's met, by the way, you know what this world really needs? More kids growing up with dads who don't love them. Thank you, Elon. More kids growing up without a father. Kids growing up without any kind of father model. But your dad is a distant celebrity you've never met who farmed you out to a Twitter user he doesn't love and go forth and populate the white race with your genius genes. I mean, this is who's running our country right now. They are insane idiots.

[Allison Gill]

I prefer two moms anyway, but I do, too.

[John Fugelsang]

My God, that's just me. I got no problem with two moms. What I'm just saying is we're already raising douchebags, and this guy seems to be trying to raise a whole generation of douchebags. If we're going to be talking about the crisis of men, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, oh, the men are in such crisis, but we also don't want to take the concept of toxic masculinity seriously, then it's just going to get worse with young men in this country.

[Allison Gill]

It's. The plot of Idiocracy is. Yeah, it's what it is. It the opening three minutes of Idiocracy.

[John Fugelsang]

Yeah.

[Allison Gill]

One final thing, and if, hey, if you ever need me to. Come on, tell me everything and talk about this, I'm. I'm really excited about this. Today, a judge has ruled for the first time in the United States that Trump's use of the Alien Enemies act is unlawful.

[Dana Goldberg]

We've.

[Allison Gill]

We've only up until this point had temporary restraining orders and preliminary injunctions from courts who have not yet tackled that question. But once the Supreme Court said, oh, we decided, even though we did this without any briefing or without any meaningful argument, that the only remedy to the Alien Enemies act is habeas petitions in the districts where you're from. And so people started filing those, and we finally got one that has said, and it's the first one out of Texas that says, yeah, no, this is an unlawful application of the Alien Enemies act and it violates multiple statutes. And this, the kicker is that this is A Trump appointee in the Southern.

[John Fugelsang]

District of Texas appointed Judge Alison. I didn't think it was possible for Trump to get ghosted by a law from 1798, but this was beautiful. This Trump appointed judge just pretty much said, sorry, sir, you can't use this 18th century law to deport 21st century immigrants because of your fan fiction about gangs invading Texas. This law was passed when people had powdered wigs. This law was passed when dentists used whiskey and prayers, and Trump tries to use it in peacetime to deport Venezuelans to El Salvador. Okay, this is like, I'm trying. I'm going to use the Magna Carta to evict my neighbor because I hate his music. That's exactly what this was.

[Allison Gill]

Well, I was thinking Hammurabi for my Airbnb neighbors. Right? Eye for an eye. Just.

[John Fugelsang]

Yeah.

[Allison Gill]

You know.

[John Fugelsang]

Well, too bad Jesus overturned that. But lucky for these guys, he did.

[Allison Gill]

He did. MAGA doesn't know the whole world blind, right?

[John Fugelsang]

Yeah. MAGA doesn't know anything Jesus says, so. Thank God they're lucky.

[Allison Gill]

Yes, a plausible deniability of the Bible.

[John Fugelsang]

Worshiping Jesus loudly means never having to learn his actual teachings.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, kind of a contradiction in terms. Almost as big of a contradiction as RFK jr's insinuation that there is an inverse direct correlation between fluoride and stupid kids. Now I understand, like, why everyone's, like, getting to the meat of the matter. Obviously, fluoride doesn't cause lower IQs. And calling kids with lower IQ stupid is also horrible.

[John Fugelsang]

He's already done it. He's already insulted every adult and kid on the autism spectrum in the world.

[Allison Gill]

Well, you've also insulted me as a dissertation writer because there is no such thing as a direct inverse correlation. You either have a direct correlation or you have an inverse correlation. You can't have both at the same time unless you have a brain worm. I guess it just. It. It's like Schrodinger's correlation. It makes no sense. You know, obviously it has nothing to do with causation either. My favorite graph is the inverse correlation of global warming and the dwindling number of pirates, showing that the dwindling number of pirates definitely is causing global warming. And that is why I belong to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. May you be touched by his noodle appendage.

[John Fugelsang]

That was on the tip of my tongue. And you said my exact thought first. My God.

[Allison Gill]

But here we are with. Now we're inventing direct inverse correlations. And it's direct inverse correlations hurts My brain. I don't have a worm in there.

[John Fugelsang]

For, for Christians who like repelling the stranger. It's perfect.

[Allison Gill]

Yes. So that is what they're doing. They're doing a direct inverse correlation of, of, of biblical passages and reality, and it's, it's not working out for them. So anyway, yes, there's a reason that made no sense. It's because it doesn't make sense.

[John Fugelsang]

Listen, I, I, Isn't it great? We all live long enough to see a member of the Kennedy family. We want to see horrible things happen to. I mean, wow, that's how far we've come as a species now. And by the way, you know what? I'm mad at Cheryl Hines, but I'm really ready to see somebody commit some heroic adultery on a Kennedy. Please, Cheryl, if you want to get back in Hollywood's good graces, humiliate this man as hard as you can, preferably with Larry David, I'll accept it.

[Allison Gill]

Yes. Yes. Especially with his little op ed about Bill Maher. Oh, man, that's fantastic. All right, my friend, it's wonderful to see you as always. Thanks again for having me on the Not White House correspondence dinner again. If you guys want to see it so great, you can watch it still. Meet Hook M E E T Meet Hook Live not. And we appreciate you joining us in that endeavor because it was super fun to make. Really fun and got anything else? Any, any final thoughts before we get out of here today?

[John Fugelsang]

Wow, man, there's so much to talk about. Yeah. But no, I, I, I mean, just one thing. Thank you, Canada. I was just so inspired. I needed to see this so much. I, I, I think maybe the most inspiring part of the week is going to be Donald Trump finally realizing that Vladimir Putin doesn't love him and that maybe that short Zelensky is the guy I should have chosen first. But just seeing how the people of Canada have been united. Donald Trump can't unite America, but he can certainly unite the Canadians. And I think it was just beautiful to see this happen because, look, I mean, we all talked about what would have happened if Biden had left six months sooner. What could have happened if Biden had left six months sooner. And we sort of just saw it by Trudeau dropping out as early as he did and then letting, you know, know Carney come in and replace him. And Carney's like the James Bond of central banking. This calm. Charming.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. They also are allowed to, to our elections are fixed. They're allowed to call snaps.

[John Fugelsang]

They can do it.

[Allison Gill]

I'm Very jealous of that. I'm also jealous of their 51 day election cycle because ours is 651.

[John Fugelsang]

But look at, but look at his party. A few months ago, the Liberal party in Canada was toast, folks.

[Allison Gill]

Oh, yeah, they were 25 in the hole. 25 points in the hole.

[John Fugelsang]

You apologize to the toaster when you throw this toast out. And Donald Trump's talents for screwing things up has become so powerful, it's working internationally.

[Allison Gill]

And when he tweeted on the eve of the election, or truth on the eve of the election and poliov is like, leave me alone, man, just leave me alone.

[John Fugelsang]

It's like, oh, please send Elon to all the swing states. Please send Elon to all the special election districts.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, just like sending him back to Tesla is going to really help their stock price. Yeah.

[John Fugelsang]

But this guy Carney, it really looks like, like, I mean, what he did by coming out and just saying, hey, we're going to, we, we have 500 billion of your debt, America. We're going to sell these bonds. We're just going to start devaluing the dollar and selling off the bonds. Have you heard Trump call him governor lately? Have you heard Trump make any freaking jokes about the 51st state after Mark Carney comes in there? I mean, like, they're showing us how it's done and he managed to unite the Canadians. Wait, just wait till we see what this country's like by, by 2026. No, by labor Day this summer after the, the tariffs start to take their toll.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, no, I just met with our next election since we can't call snap ones. All right, my friend, you have a wonderful day. Everybody, please check out Tell Me Everything on Sirius X in progress, channel 127. You can check it out every weeknight at 9pm Eastern, 6 Pacific. It's a hoot. You need to, you need to hear it.

[John Fugelsang]

That's right. That's right.

[Allison Gill]

And if you don't have that, the John Fugelsang show podcast is always available to you wherever you get your podcasts. My friend. It's always good to see you on Fridays. I hope you have a wonderful weekend.

[John Fugelsang]

Have a great week at Dallas and thank you, everybody.

[Allison Gill]

Stick around. We'll be right back with the Good news. Everybody, welcome back. It's time for the Good News. Good News, everyone. And Good News, everyone. I love Good News Fridays. It always picks up my spirit. Everybody, if you have any good news confessions, corrections, you want to give a shout out to a loved one, a family member, a small business in your area. Some great activism, community organizing that you're seeing. A shout out to your small business or a self shout out. A shout out to a government program that has helped you or a loved one. Whether it's Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the Affordable Care act, subsidies, great VA healthcare. You or a loved one have received. Maybe SNAP or WIC or Head Start. We'd love to hear about that. Especially student debt forgiveness. Send it all to [e-mail] Click on Contact all you got to do to get your submission read on the air is pay your POD pet tariff. That means attach a photo of your pet. If you don't have a pet, you can send an adoptable pet in your area. And if you don't have that, you can send any animal photo. From the Internet. We are currently accepting bird watching photos which can be an actual bird or you and your family and friends flipping off Trump and Musk properties. Those are flip the bird photos. And of course if you don't have any of those baby photos always work. Send it to us again daily beanspod.com click on contact first up from Peter hi Allison, Love your show, but you missed out on something in Lindsay Graham's tweet when you dismissed the bunch of Roman numerals. The first Pope US President combination has many upsides, said Lindsay. Watching for the white smoke Trump mmxxviii that means Trump 2028. He's using his papal nomination to add fuel to the third term idea for my bird watching tariff. Our national bird, the cobra chicken. My Canadian support. Emotional support Canadians for sending the cobra chicken.

[Dana Goldberg]

So good. All right, this is from Nancy Pronounce, she and her hi Beans Queens for the Science Talk today. And that is May 1st of 2025's episode about fluoride. You were March mostly right. Direct relationship means okay, if A goes up, B goes up. For example, if you listen to Daily Beans, you get smarter. Direct relationship, an inverse relationship means if A goes up, B goes down. So if you listen to say, Joe Rogan, you get dumber. But a direct relationship can also be about cause and effect. Direct means causes it. HIV causes aids. It's a direct cause. If you have HIV that's untreated, you get aids. Having HIV can lead to being more susceptible to other disease. Indirectly. If you have hiv, you're more likely to get Kaposi's sarcoma. But HIV doesn't actually cause it. That's an indirect cause. So the idiot of the head of HHS is saying that fluoride is the Direct cause of the inverse relationship between fluoride and intelligence. He's right.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, but he didn't say that.

[Dana Goldberg]

Right. He's wrong. Of course. But that's a different discussion.

[Allison Gill]

He said there's a direct inverse correlation. Yeah. No, no, no.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah. And I love the submission. I'm so thoroughly confused.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah, I get what Nancy is saying.

[Dana Goldberg]

I get what Nancy's saying up until the point where this is what he.

[Allison Gill]

Was trying to say.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. And as Nancy said, he's wrong. But of course that's a different discussion. My kids don't sit for picks. I have. And I don't have pets. I already sent a picture of my gnomes. I made the gnomes. I didn't make the Spaghetti Monster. So this time I'll send you a calendar page from the Daily Bitch.

[Allison Gill]

Fuck yeah.

[Dana Goldberg]

Nancy, this is awesome. Thank you, by the way, for the explanation and the gentle correction for us being half right. I like when I'm half right.

[Allison Gill]

Yeah. And though I will say, Nancy, with your example about HIV and aids, the direct cause, that's causation. And he was talking about correlation. So he said a direct inverse correlation. So there's a direct correlation. There's an inverse correlation. I don't understand. But maybe. Maybe you're right. Maybe he was trying to say that fluoride is the direct cause of the inverse relationship between fluoride and intelligence. But maybe he left out the causation word. I don't know. He's a dipshit either way I look at this.

[Dana Goldberg]

Absolutely not give any of these fuckers the benefit of the doubt about what they meant. You know what I mean? I'm like, you are in a position where you should know that word words matter. Say the right ones, make sure they come out.

[Allison Gill]

Look at this great calendar page.

[Dana Goldberg]

It is very cool.

[Allison Gill]

Okay, it's the Daily. Okay. But what wine pairs best with existential dread and fruity pebbles?

[Dana Goldberg]

It's a fair question.

[Allison Gill]

All right, next up from anonymous pronoun she her. Good day, my favorite sprouts. My husband and I listen every morning with our cup of tea. You're a bright spot in our never ending winter here in northern Michigan. After listening to you, we decided to join our small but fierce protests here in our very red county. We've gotten more support than one finger salutes, so it's very encouraging. I thought you'd like to see us in action at our very wet, very cold mayday protest. I'm also attaching podpet tax of our angel rescue boy Dozer. We rescued him during COVID having been found on the streets of Detroit. We had the honor of loving him for almost three years before we had to say goodbye. Good luck guessing his breed. It shocked us. Also included a picture of him with his sisters Bindi and Saucy. Also, Covid rescues. Okay, look at this. Great protest. Oh, my gosh. All right, so what do you think?

[Dana Goldberg]

I think that's like a pug and a pit bull.

[Allison Gill]

I think it's like a pug and a. And a.

[Dana Goldberg]

It looks like there's also, like a beagle in there, but.

[Allison Gill]

And what's the. What's the terrier? A cairn terrier. I'm gonna say cairn terrier pug.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh, wait, this is the picture I'm looking at. Sorry, I was looking at the other. No, I still think there's pit bull in this dog, but also, like. Like a collie something. Let's see, what do we have?

[Allison Gill]

70% Pug, 24% Yorkie, and 3% Boston Terrier. That's what I was looking at. And 100% the best.

[Dana Goldberg]

Boy, he's cute.

[Allison Gill]

He's adorable.

[Dana Goldberg]

Keep up the good work.

[Allison Gill]

You are a wonderful start to each day.

[Dana Goldberg]

Love that. Thank you for that. This one's from Dorian Pronoun. She and her dear queens of all beans. I never thought I'd say this, but I want to give a shout out to the IRS of New Jersey. Yeah, you heard me right. I was very frustrated that unlike New York and the Fed, Jersey wanted a laundry list of documents sent to them before they would release my tax refund. I uploaded the documents to their digital system, but lo and behold, I got a repeat email asking for all the same fucking documents. I wanted answers, so with much trepidation, decided to call. At first, I dialed the automated system and got the automated runaround. And then I dialed the number from my regional office for touch tone dialers, thinking I would get through by pretending I had a rotary phone. I got an auto message saying that the robo speak equivalent basically of too busy later for you, sucker. Out of desperation, I decided to try the regional office again and pretend to be a business, figuring this is an oligarchy now, so maybe that would give me some attention. Sure enough, I did get a human being that way. But what a human being. Ms. Wendy was so lovely to me, and she didn't mind that I was human and out of business at all. She gladly confirmed all my documents were uploaded and that they were just waiting to be assigned to an agent, even though it wasn't her area of assignment, she still helped me with a smile in her voice and was so kind. I told her I was sorry that the IRS was getting targeted by the orange turd in the White House and that she should listen to the Daily Beans just in case they read my shout out. So I may have gotten you at least one new listener this week for my pod pet tax. I sadly, I sadly do not have kitties of my own anymore. But here's a pic of my friend's mature diva kitty, Zozi. Zozi loves to cuddle and to grab a taste of mommy's Ben and Jerry's. As long as it's not chocolate. I think she was supposed to be a foster first. But of course, who could resist this beautiful fluffer? Keep up the good work keeping us all sane in this mental health awareness month. And hey, listen, if this lovely human is listening now to this podcast, thank you for helping out Ms. Wendy, because it sounds like you are a phenomenal human being.

[Allison Gill]

Heck yeah. That's so great. Look at this baby kitty.

[Dana Goldberg]

I know.

[Allison Gill]

Oh, adorable. I love the kid. The white kitties that look like they have a hat with the markings on the top of their head. So cute. That's like one of my favorite cats on reels on Instagram. Is this cat that has this voice where he's like, yeah, it's just. I don't know, but I love that guy and he's like one of these cats. All right, next up from Anonymous, pronoun she her. I had my first child at 19. I was a first generation high school graduate and college student when I got pregnant by my high school boyfriend. I quickly became a single mom with no real support system and it was tough. I continued school, worked two jobs but still needed daycare vouchers, Medicaid and food stamps to ensure we could make it. I got my degree and went on to post grad. Today she's 27 and my career is thriving. She went to FSU and is a homeowner. I also have a 17 year old son and we have carved out a nice life. If it weren't for the hand up I received from the government assistance, I don't know how we could have survived or broken the systemic chains of poverty. The assistance from the government can work. We are living thriving. Proof my popette tax is my sweet kitty Thunder and my grumpy old puppy pup Jacks. What a beautiful submission. Thank you. No. Look at the puppy.

[Dana Goldberg]

So sweet.

[Allison Gill]

And the kitty's asleep. Adorable.

[Dana Goldberg]

All right, this one's From Anonymous no pronouns given.

[Allison Gill]

Oh baby picture.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh boy. Just a short note. Hold on, I'm getting there. Just a short note to alert you to the good work done by the State Disability Determination Services Office. These state agencies review SSA disability claims on behalf of the Social Social Security Administration. People who file for disability under SSI and ssd. They have their claims reviewed by physicians and psychologists in their state. I am fortunate to be one of those physicians. A psychiatrist and I review dozens of claims each week in my halftime job at the state's dds. Fortunately, for the moment, we are somewhat insulated from the federal chaos as we are state employees, not federal SSA employees. But it is a matter of time before the chaos at the federal level slows the system and increases disability claimants wait times even further than they are already delayed. In the aftermath of COVID which we have not recovered from, claims often are adjudicated well over a year after they are filed, a real disservice to people with disabilities. While many people are eligible under SSA rules, for those who are and who should be granted disability benefits benefits, those delays are a true burden. We should be working faster, not slower. But the name of so called efficiency by the organization I refer to as dodgy. I fear that the process will be worse going forward, not better. I'm proud to use those nine words Reagan so hated. I'm from the government and I'm here to help. For my tariff, no pets, too many allergies in my family. But here's a photo of my first grandchildren born last week. Ain't he cute? Yes, he's perfect.

[Allison Gill]

Oh, he's in a little burrito.

[Dana Goldberg]

Oh gosh.

[Allison Gill]

This is an adorable baby. I had a seat like that. It's interesting that they still make those.

[Dana Goldberg]

Yeah, well maybe. Obviously they were a good product because you know how many years later got a new one?

[Allison Gill]

So adorable. Thank you everybody for this amazing Friday good news dump. We needed this. Please load us up for Monday because he sucks. So send us all your good news, all your baby photos right now. Just go get a picture of you, your baby photo, just yours and send it in. You can even just be like hey, here's my baby photo like you said. Please send it to us dailybeanspod.com click on contact thanks to Fugal saying for joining us today. And do you have any final thoughts before we get out here for the weekend? My my dear friend.

[Dana Goldberg]

Just wishing everyone a wonderful weekend. Do something that makes you happy. Go out, touch some grass and just take a good deep breath. In, we all need it.

[Allison Gill]

Yes. Breathe in, breathe out, and do something you love with loved ones. All right, everybody, we'll see you on Monday. Until then, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health, and take care of your family. I've been ag. I've been dg and I'm Sabines. The Daily Beans is written and executive produced by Allison Gill with additional research and reporting by Dana Goldberg. Sound design and editing is by Desiree McFarlane with art and web design by Joelle Reader with Moxie Design Studios. Music for the Daily Beans is written and performed by they Might Be Giants and the show is a proud member of the MSW Media Network, a collection of creator owned podcasts dedicated to news, politics, and justice. For more information, please visit mswmedia.com msw media.