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Monday, May 26th, 2025 Today, federal judges weigh taking control of the US Marshals amid threats from the Trump administration; President Zelensky condemns US silence after a massive Russian drone and missile strike; a federal judge orders the Trump administration to return a wrongfully disappeared Guatemalan man; Trump signed orders to overhaul the Nuclear Regulatory Commission; a federal judge has blocked the Trump administration from removing medical research papers from an HHS database over references to transgender people; a federal judge has halted the Trump administration ban on Harvard’s ability to enroll international students; the food sucked and security was lax at Trump’s $148M memecoin dinner; the Navy reverses course on their diversity equity and inclusion book ban; and Allison delivers your Good News.
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Alison Gill
MSW Media hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Monday, May 26, 2025. Today, federal judges weigh taking control of the U.S. marshals amid threats from the Trump administration. President Zelensky condemns the United States silence after a massive Russian drone and missile strike. A federal judge orders the Trump administration to return a wrongfully disappeared Guatemalan man. Trump signed orders to overhaul the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. A federal judge has blocked the Trump administration from removing medical research papers from a Health and Human Services database over references to transgender people. A federal judge has halted the Trump administration's ban on Harvard's ability to enroll international students. The food sucked and security was lax at Trump's $148 million meme coin dinner. And the Navy reverses course on their diversity, equity and inclusion book ban. I'm your host, Alison Gill. Hey everybody, Happy Monday. Dana's out, as you know. Thanks for hanging in with me solo. She is out doing the good work, raising funds, protecting communities in need. And so we appreciate her work and we'll always honor her need to do that and travel and thank her very much for everything that she does. So I do appreciate you sticking around for the news while she's out. And thanks to everyone who's a patron who came to the Mega Super Happy Hour cocktail mocktail meet and greet extravaganza on Friday. That Zoom call we had hundreds and hundreds of people show up. We answered a ton of questions. It was me, Harry Dunn, Andy McCabe and Dana Goldberg. If you want to become a patron and get invites to these happy hour calls, you can do that@patreon.com Muller she wrote. Also, I'll be hosting the no Kings rally June 14 in downtown San Diego. And I'll be hosting a meet and greet for patrons after the march so we can get some food and drinks. Patrons, you should have an RSVP in your inbox and again to become a patron. Patreon.com Muller she wrote. I will be joined later in the show by ian Miller, a 22 year service member who was wrongfully arrested about a decade ago. And we're going to talk about how that impacted his life and the parallels that we see in these, you know, current stories that we're covering on due process and our two tiered justice system. All right, everybody, we have a lot of news to get to, so let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes. All right, first up, incredible scoop from the Wall Street Journal. Amid rising tensions between the Trump administration and the judiciary, some federal judges are beginning to actually discuss the idea of managing their own armed security force. The notion came up in a series of closed door meetings in early March, when a group of roughly 50 judges met in Washington for a semiannual meeting of the Judicial Conference. And that's a policy making body for the federal judiciary. That's the conference that decides that there can or can't be cameras in the courtroom, stuff like that there. During that conference, members of a security committee spoke about threats emerging as President Trump stepped up criticism of those who rule against his policies. Dozens of judges and their relatives have received, for example, anonymous pizza deliveries to their homes, which they perceive as, quote, we know where you live now. In March, five days after the Supreme Court upheld a lower court's ruling that the administration must pay U.S. aid contractors, Justice Amy Coney, Barrett's sister was. Was targeted with a bomb threat, and that's according to police records. Another judge had a SWAT team called on him after he overturned an executive order restricting birthright citizenship. The Supreme Court has its own dedicated police force, but the rest of the federal bench are protected by U.S. marshals. And the U.S. marshal Service reports to Attorney General Pam Bondi. Security committee members worried that Trump could order the marshals to stand down in retaliation for a decision that doesn't go his way. They weighed one potential proactive solution. What if they commanded their own security force? Their concerns even reached Chief Justice John Roberts, who fielded anxieties from judges over a breakfast in a meeting room in the Supreme Court that their current protection may be insufficient. On Thursday, Democratic Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey introduced legislation that would allow the Chief justice and Judicial Conference to. To appoint the head of the marshals, placing the courts in charge of their own security. In a statement, Booker said the legislation was necessary because Trump, quote, has made it abundantly clear through his words and actions that he does not respect the law, court orders, the safety of our judges or our institutions, unquote. The marshals, quote, dual accountability to the executive branch and the judicial branch paves the way toward a constitutional crisis. That's Booker. That's a U.S. senator. Judge John Kohenauer of the Western District of Washington, who had the SWAT team called on him, called the proposal to move the marshals under the judiciary a wonderful idea. Quote, there's never been any reason in the 43 years that I've been on the bench to worry that the marshal service would do whatever was appropriate until recent years. That's what Kohenhauer said. Now, moving to marshals under the judicial branch would be complicated and likely politically difficult. Still, that some Judges worry about the president pulling their security suggests that their relationship with the executive branch is more strained now than it ever has been. That's what retired Judge Jeremy Fogle, now the executive director of the Berkeley Judicial Institute, said. In addition to judicial protection, marshals have wide ranging responsibilities, including transporting prisoners, apprehending fugitives and operating the witness protection program. And here's the key. The marshal service also plays a role in enforcing judicial orders. Quote, I'm concerned about the constitutional crisis that occurs if the courts issue a lawful order ordering the marshal to do X. This is Carl Koch, a former assistant director of the Marshall's Judicial Security Division. And he goes on to say, and then the Justice Department comes in and says, you will not execute that order. I'm thinking specifically of contempt orders. So also speaking of contempt orders, I looked up the language in the billionaire bailout bill about contempt. And it's not what I think people are thinking that it is. And I've written it up@muellershirote.com basically, rule I think 65C of the federal civil Code says that if you're going to bring a motion for a preliminary injunction or a temporary restraining order, you need to put up a security. You have to put up money, an amount that the judge sees fit, that the judge thinks is appropriate before you can get that temporary restraining order in case it gets overturned and the defendants want to, you know, recoup costs, legal costs. Now usually that Rule 65C has been there forever. Generally, judges don't require. It's up to the judges. You know, it says in, in the rule, it's what the judges deem appropriate. The judges never, they charge $0 right up front as a security deposit. But what the bill, the big billionaire welfare bill says is that they can no longer charge $0, but nothing stopping the judges from charging like a nickel. So I don't think that this is at least as written as necessarily bad. I don't think it restricts contempt appropriations. So check that out. I wrote it up. Mullershiro.com Next up from NBC, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Sunday criticized the United States and the international community for remaining silent after Russia unleashed what Ukrainian officials are describing as the large aerial assault on the country since the war began. Russian forces launched a massive overnight barrage Saturday as 367 drones and missiles targeted more than 30 sites and villages across Ukraine, including the capital Kiev. At least 12 people were killed, according to officials, including three children in the northern region. Quote, the silence of America, the silence of others in the world only encourages Putin. That's what Zelensky wrote on Telegram went on to say every such terrorist Russian strike is reason enough for new sanctions against Russia. Saturday's massive air raid follows a drone attack Friday that killed four people and also coincided with the final day of a large scale prisoner exchange between Ukraine and Russia. Next up from cnbc. President Trump signed a series of executive orders Friday to overhaul the nrc, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, and speed the deployment of new nuclear power reactors in the United States. The NRC is a 50 year old independent agency that regulates the nation's fleet of nuclear reactors. Trump's orders call for a total and complete reform of the agency. That's according to a senior White House official who spoke to reporters in a briefing. Under the new rules, the commission will be required to decide on nuclear reactor licenses within 18 months. Now, Trump said Friday the orders focus on small, advanced reactors that are viewed by many in the industry as the future. But the president also said his administration supports building large nuclear plants. Quote, we're also talking about the big plants. Very, very big. The biggest we're going to be doing them also. That's what Trump said. The very, very big, big, big. The biggest. Unbelievable. Next Also from CNBC, the price of Trump's meme coin plunged 16% as a Friday morning, just hours after he hosted a black tie gala at his Virginia golf club for its biggest buyers, an elite crowd that spent a combined $148 million on the token for the chance to be there. It was billed as the most exclusive invitation in the world among 220 attendees included crypto influencers, industry executives such as Sandy Carter of the unstoppable domains, former NBA star Lamar Odom, who used the occasion to praise Trump as the greatest president and promote his own meme coin. The top 25 wallets were promised private reception and a guided tour. Others such as 25 year old Nicholas Pinto, whose dad drove him to the event in his Lamborghini, left underwhelmed and still hungry. Quote the food sucked, pinto said. Wasn't given any drinks other than water or Trump wine. And I don't drink, so I had water and my glass was only filled once, unquote. Trump made only a brief appearance. Pinto said he didn't talk to any of the 220 guests. Maybe the top 25, he said. Now the number one token holder was Chinese born crypto mogul Justin sun, who is currently facing a securities and Exchange Commission fraud charge. Multiple charges actually that were recently paused with the agency citing the public interest soon holds over $22 million in Trump coin and another 75 million in World Liberty Financial's native token. So this is nothing more than a slush fund for pay to Play. I mean, the corruption is right out there in the open, as it always has been with with Donald Trump and his administration. Next, let's turn to some good news. A federal judge ordered the Trump administration late Friday to facilitate the return of a Guatemalan man who'd been deported to Mexico despite fearing persecution and having told US Authorities about the violence he experienced there. The man known by OGC is gay and is now living in hiding in Guatemala in constant panic and constant fear. And that's according to a sworn declaration, quote, I can't be gay here, which means I can't be myself. The ruling by Judge Brian E. Murphy, one of the U.S. district Court in Boston, criticized the government for first claiming that OCG said he was not afraid of being sent to Mexico, where he said he was actually raped and held captive, but later admitting that it was unable to identify the officials who said he supposedly made that statement. So the the judge was not happy about that. Judge Murphy also found that OCG was likely to succeed in showing that his removal lacked any semblance of due process. That's a quote. Perhaps the case closest to OCG's is that of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a mistakenly deported Maryland man. And it raises questions about the likelihood of OCG's return to the United States. Despite Judge Murphy's order. In both cases, a federal judge has instructed the Trump administration to correct its own admitted mistake and seek the men's return. Mr. Abrego Garcia, however, remains in prison in El Salvador. For more updates on Abrego Garcia, check out the latest episode of Unjustified came out Sunday. Don't want to miss it. All right, next up, I'm going to read to you from Judge Leo Sorkin's ruling. He's an Obama appointee. He says the plaintiffs in this action are physicians and professors who challenged the removal of articles they authored from an online patient safety resource launched and hosted by the federal government. They allege violations of their First Amendment rights and the Administrative Procedures Act. The apa, arising from the implementation by three government agencies of an executive order concerning gender ideology signed by the President on January 20, 2025. Before the court is the plaintiff's motion for a preliminary injunction, which is fully briefed and was the subject of a hearing. The plaintiffs are likely to succeed in proving that the removal of their articles was a textbook example of viewpoint discrimination by the defendants in violation of the First Amendment because irreparable harm necessarily flows from such a violation and the balance of harms and the public interest favor the plaintiffs. The motion for a preliminary injunction is granted in part. As explained below. The defendants must restore the patient safety articles they removed from the online resource at issue. So that's wonderful news. And more good news from cnn. A federal judge has temporarily halted the Trump administration's ban on Harvard's ability to enroll international students. And this was going down fast anyway. U.S. district Judge Allison Burrows ruled hours after the nation's oldest and wealthiest college filed suit on Friday. Harvard argued revocation of its certification in the student and exchange visitor program was, quote, a clear retaliation for its refusal of the government's ideologically rooted policy demands. Judge Burroughs is the same judge considering a separate lawsuit from Harvard challenging the administration's freeze of $2.65 billion in federal funding. Burrows, an Obama appointee, said in her order Harvard had shown it will sustain immediate and irreparable injury if the government were allowed to revoke the school's certification before the court could consider the matter. A remote conference in the case is set for Tuesday. Two days later, the judge is due to hear arguments at the federal courthouse in Boston over whether to issue a preliminary injunction, which is an order that would block the administration's action until a final decision is made in the lawsuit. So here's a judge appointed by Obama whose kids and himself went to Harvard. Baron Trump was not accepted into Harvard. And and so I hope that the the walls of Mar a Lago are running red with ketchup tonight. That's what I hope because there's just a lot of Obama and Harvard going against him in this particular ruling. And finally from ABC, in a major reversal, almost all of the 381 books that the Naval Academy removed from its libraries have been returned to the bookshelves after a new review using the Pentagon's standardized search terms for diversity, equity and inclusion titles found about 20 books that be removed pending future review by a Department of Defense panel. That's according to a defense official. The reversal comes after a May 9 Pentagon memo set Wednesday as the date by which the military services were to submit and remove book titles from the libraries of their military educational institutions that touch on diversity, race and gender issues, including the Pentagon specific search terms. Prior to the Pentagon memo standardizing search terms, the Navy used its own terms that identified 381 titles, including titles like I know why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou, how to Be an Anti Racist by Kendi, Bodies in Doubt by Elizabeth Reese, and White Rage by Carol Anderson. So most of those titles have been returned to the shelves. Good. All right, we have listeners submitted good news to get to. But first, a 22 year service member, active duty, was wrongfully arrested a little over a decade ago. And we'll talk about why and what impact that had on him after this break. So stick around. We'll be right back after these messages.
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Ian Murray
We'll be right back.
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Alison Gill
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Ian Murray
Hello.
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Alison Gill
Hi. So this is a harrowing story about what happened to you and how it's impacted your life. Take us back to around the timeframe that you were wrongfully arrested and what happened.
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Ian Murray
Well, it was a very bizarre set of events. It's something I certainly never expected to happen. I mean, at that point, I'd been in service a lot less time. But, you know, even. Even with that, I knew that there was supposed to be a set of steps followed by the investigating detectives who were handling the false complaint filed by one of my watch commanders. You know, I was even assured by other members of my department that they would do their jobs, they would investigate and find. I did no wrongdoing as I had orders to back up all my military duty. But unfortunately, what happened was in the middle of their investigation, I received military orders to go out of town to do a training assignment for about three months. And my understanding is if they had waited till I got back to affect any kind of action, they would have lost their jurisdictional authority and they wouldn't have been able to do it because they only had six months, I guess, to take action. And this had already been going on for four months. So instead of doing the basic fundaments of their investigation, which I even told them, you know, where everything was located, when they called me, they either simply chose not to do it or they decided they wanted to make some kind of example out of me. And, yeah, they went to a judge, lied to the judge, got an arrest warrant signed, and I was falsely arrested by my own department. It became pretty clear within the. When they took me down to their little precinct or wherever it was and started questioning me, it became very clear that they had not done their investigation. When they started asking me questions, they said, well, where were you on this day? I said, what did my order say? And they just had no response to that. So at that point, I knew that. And of Course, they tried to flip it around on me. They tried to say, well, you could have been more cooperative with us. I'm like, what more could I have possibly done, right? This is your job. You're the investigator. I'm not here to do your job for you. I'm here. You know, I told you where everything was. All you had to go do was find it, right?
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Alison Gill
Now. This wasn't when you. This wasn't part of your. When you say your office arrested you, you're talking about the sheriff's office, right? Because this wasn't the military that did this.
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Ian Murray
No, the sheriff's office I worked for arrested me and they ran a false narrative on the news media. It made drive time radio, 5 o' clock, 6 o' clock news. It was on page two of the Jacksonville newspaper the next day. It was a shocker. And that's actually how most of the members of my military unit found out about it. They couldn't believe it. They knew the investigation was going on, and even they had faith that the system would be followed and these investigators would do their jobs. But that just didn't happen. And, yeah, it was really bizarre. So I talked to a lawyer within my union who I'd spoken to earlier on in the investigation. And this is someone who told me I did nothing wrong. And this is one of those people who assured me that they would do their jobs, they would follow their due process, and I would be found, you know, in no wrongdoing. And then all of a sudden, he changed his story. He's like, well, if I, if you, you know, I'll represent you for free, but you're gonna have to take some kind of a plea deal. So it became pretty clear that my own union was more interested in representing the sheriff's office than they were me. So the following Monday after the arrest, I hired my own attorney. And within a week after doing that, the detectives who arrested me probably did more work that week than they had the whole four months prior. They went to my military unit, they, you know, started looking, you know, through paperwork, and of course my, my lawyer was able to furnish him with all those orders, like the same day I hired him, like. And yeah, they went down to my army unit, they threatened members of my military full time staff and my full time staff. I got to hand it to them, they went toe to toe with me. They fought back on my behalf. They said, we're not going to let you do this to him. You guys are wrong. You didn't have your ducks in a row. And we're not going to help you generate a, you know, a false prosecution against this guy. So this is.
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Alison Gill
Wow. I mean, so many things are popping up in my head as you tell this story. First of all, the, the, the, the cops lying to the judge to get a warrant. We have seen this time and again the police officer that testified that Abrego Garcia is somehow a member of Ms. 13 got in trouble for lying to obtain a warrant. We've seen the Breonna Taylor shooting, that those officers lied to get that entry warrant, that no knock warrant into, into that home when she was shot. We, you talk about as soon as you hired an attorney, boy, they snapped to it really fast. We saw that happen with the man who was wrongfully deported to a Guatemala, who's got a return order now, like as soon as he got a lawyer. Everyone's like, oh, oh, well, well, in that case, in that case. And so it's just, it's fascinating to me these systemic issues that seem to continue to happen when they want to target somebody and make a, make an example out of them that they'll go to these lengths.
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Ian Murray
Yeah, it happens everywhere, on all different levels, on all sides of the, you know, the political and the law enforcement aisle. It's, you know, it's just unfortunate that people abuse the, they get a little bit of authority and they think that they can just try to ruin somebody's life. And that's what they tried to do. They tried to ruin my life. They knew that by affecting this arrest, my career, even if I had stayed with the sheriff's office, would have never been the same. And they also knew by doing this, it was going to put my security clearance through the military in jeopardy. So they, they were trying to destroy my whole life. And it went on. The state attorney, when he got the case in front of him, he gave the, in the arresting detectives like another almost two months to try and generate some kind of additional, you know, factual circumstances to back their case, that they couldn't do it. And he looked at him and said, I can't touch this guy. If I do, I'm going to be prosecuting a military service member for doing his job. And he never even did the paperwork for the case, like, that's how weak it was. He never even generated a charge for me. So like I was arrested but never charged with a crime, if that makes sense. And then also while this was still pending, about a month after my arrest, before the criminal case was even dropped, the powers that be that investigate security clearances came in and did their investigation. They went and talked to my command, and they even asked him, like my first sergeant said. They asked us, is this some kind of a joke? And he said, I'm afraid not. So, yeah, they gave me my security clearance back while I was still pending criminal charges. So that just shows you how weak this whole thing was. And that really made the sheriff's office mad, because by doing that, it just put a. It just threw, you know, cold water on their. What little fire they had going. And, you know, when it was over there, they didn't stop. They launched a. They turned it over to Internal affairs to try and say I did something wrong, administratively wrong. And first thing my lawyer did, he took the entire case file, sent it over to the city manager, said, you know, explain the situation to him. And about two weeks later, I think the city manager sent back a letter saying, Mr. Murray has done nothing wrong. He has violated no policies within the sheriff's office or the city. Jacksonville, even then, the. The detective that was investigating, he was also in the military. At first I was kind of relieved, like, thinking, okay, finally they put someone in char, you know, in. In charge of this investigation who knows how the military works. Yeah, I was wrong about that. He. He was, like, trying to, I guess, get another little Bronze Star on his chart. We found out that this detective, his name was Malir, was going around to members of my command knocking on their doors. And he was an Air Force OSI investigator in the Air National Guard. Aside from being internal affairs investigator for the sheriff's office, I know this because he was knocking on members of my command's door, flashing his Air Force OSI cred, saying, I'm Special Agent Malir. I need to talk to you about one of your soldiers. He felt by doing this, I guess, that identifying himself as a military investigator, they'd be more inclined to cooperate with him and give him information. And my lawyer actually deposed a couple members of my chain of command. And even after all this, they still tried to sustain allegations against me. They tried to have me fired. And I said, okay, I'm not going to do this. Let's have a civil service hearing, and let's get this. You know, I'm going to put this to bed once and for all. I'm going to take it outside the sheriff's office, and we're going to get this exposed once and for all, and I'm not going to have to deal with them anymore. The undersheriff at the time, his name was Pat Ivey, called my lawyer and he asked us to come in to potentially resolve the issue. And I thought to myself, I really don't want to deal with this anymore, let's just do it. At the civil service hearing, my lawyer calls me back, said, well let's go in and talk to him. This way we can say we did everything we could to try and mitigate this. And you know, if that way we can say we did everything we could. They're still not wanting to do the right thing. So we went in to this under sheriff's office, we went to Pat Ivey's office and we go in there and he's sitting behind his big desk, he's got a city attorney sitting behind him, taking notes in the corner. We sit down, I sit down with my two lawyers and my, even my lawyer reiterates everything like this is a non commissioned officer in the military. He's been in for at this point for over 10 years. You know, we have letters from the city manager stating he did nothing wrong. We have depositions of your investigator falsely identifying himself. And this sheriff under sheriff basically just tried to force me to take some kind of a deal. He basically said, well you're going to take a 10 day suspension for misusing your leave. I said, but I didn't misuse my leave. And it got so bad where I just wouldn't agree with him. He ended up throwing me out of his office. And the next day they came back to my lawyer and said, well we'll give him all of his back pay if he just drops the hearing. And I said okay, so they're going to drop the discipline disciplinary charges. And I said no, you still have to agree to those. I said nope, not happening. So then Pat Ivy initiated a harassment campaign campaign against my ex wife and I. He started sending his officers to my house, which is not in Jacksonville, I live in another county. My ex wife was followed to work a couple times. From my understanding, he had people watching my house. One day somebody came to my house. I wasn't available to answer the door, but apparently this person was banging and kicking onto the point front door to the point where my ex wife went and got her handgun out of her, out of the bureau. My next door neighbor came over to the fence line and saw what was going on. He started taking pictures of this individual in their car. And when that happened, the individual left. He described the individual as a large male wearing a polo shirt with the JSO badge on it. And then the night before the civil service hearing, they finally came back, said we'll Agree we'll drop the disciplinary charges, give him all this back pay if he just, you know, doesn't show up to the, the hearing, which is what I wanted anyway. So.
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Alison Gill
Right.
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Ian Murray
We got what we wanted there and then my lawyer filed a civil lawsuit against the, the sheriff's office. Drug it out for several years.
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Alison Gill
Yeah.
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Ian Murray
And in the end, when we went to go depose the detectives who arrested me, they basically played dumb. They said, well, we thought we'd done our job properly even though we had very strong evidence to support that they were dishonest and they're investigating. But my, unfortunately there was nothing we could do to prove it. Yet they still offer offered us an out of court settlement. So at that point I said that's enough. I think, you know, we, this is enough. This is, you know, they're, I know they're never going to admit they're wrong publicly and I'm never going to get an apology or any kind of reparation or anything like that. I guess maybe you could put it for, you know, falsely arresting me, trying to ruin my Life, taking almost 10 years of my life away from me on this. But, you know, that's enough. And from my understanding too, on top of the settlement, they've had to make massive policy revisions within their own department of how they do these investigations. They can't just go on a whim anymore. The detectives actually have to run everything through their chain of command and make sure all the, you know, all the proper eyes have been dotted and the T's have been crossed before they go try and arrest somebody for something like this. So it may have been terrible for me, but they'll think twice before they do it to somebody else.
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Alison Gill
Good. Then it wasn't for nothing. At the very least, not for nothing. And that's why we fight these kinds of things, right, is to make sure that somebody else doesn't have to go through all this bullshit. And I'm guessing their motive was that they just didn't want a black eye on the union or the sheriff's department. And then, you know, that they would go out of their way to harass you and members of your family, ex wife. It just, it just sounds like mafia type stuff, you know, and, and this negatively impact. Even though you won't, you know, for all intents and purposes, because you didn't back down, it still negatively impacted your life. And so just. We've got about a minute left. I, I'd like, I'd like you to explain to everybody that even when you win, you know now you can sleep at night, and you know that they've reformed their. And that they're not gonna. They're gonna think twice before they do this again. And those are. Those are great wins. That's the whole reason you stand up for this kind of thing in the first place. But it's still negatively impacted your life, even though you. You did everything right just for, like, a minute or so. Talk about how that negatively impacted your life, even though you did nothing wrong.
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Ian Murray
Right. Well, as I mentioned earlier, I have a security clearance. And every time I go up for a review of my security clearance, I've had to explain. They come to me and say, can you explain this arrest on your record? Even though I was never charged or convicted, I still have to explain the arrest. In fact, the detective, this Malia I mentioned when I was in intel school getting my training done, I finally got to go to that. He tried to call. He called the security or the. The schoolhouse I was at just to inform that I've been arrested to try and compromise my clearance to get me thrown out of the training because he was so bitter that I was being able to move forward. I don't know what personal disinterest this guy had in me, but, yeah, so it still does follow me. But the nice thing is doing these types of interviews I've had people I work with in my circle, both military and civilian, they come up to me and they hear that, you know, they hear this side of the story. They don't just see the false media coverage anymore. They're actually seeing the whole thing, and they actually go look into it and find out, yeah, this is true. He was falsely arrested. They didn't have their ducks in a row. So, yeah, it still follows me a little bit. Not as much as it did maybe three or four years ago, but I still occasionally have to answer for it.
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Alison Gill
Yeah. Well, I, for one, want to say, first of all, thank you for your service. Thank you in the military. Second of all, thank you for your service in standing up for this and taking it to the end and taking the fight to the end. Most people, you know, I. I know and probably myself included would be like, fine, I'll just take the plea or whatever. Because just to stop. I mean, the mental health.
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Ian Murray
Yep.
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Alison Gill
Poking is. To be under that kind of pressure is.
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Ian Murray
And most people do that because they can't afford it or they just want to get back to work. Most people will do that.
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Alison Gill
Can't afford it is a big one.
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Ian Murray
They'll get their little gold star. And that person will have a black mark on their record forever. And that was not an option for me. I was not going to give up everything I'd worked hard for to have a clean record just because of a couple arrogant idiots with. With keystone badges thought that they could ruin my life.
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Alison Gill
Well, I'm glad you had the resources and the. And the help to get it done. I know a lot of people don't, so I'm not shaming anybody for taking deals neither, because you know how. How hard that is. But I just want to thank you for doing that, using those resources, because it ain't cheap either to defend yourself in these types of things. And sometimes that's the point if somebody's coming after you. I know. You know, we see this, we talk about this a lot on the show, particularly when it comes to political weaponization of the Department of Justice. Federally, they don't really care if they get a conviction. They just want to make you spend a quarter of a million dollars defending yourself and make your life really miserable and difficult. So appreciate you making it out of that and getting through to the other side and at least changing some of the processes for investigations going forward. So thank you very much for sharing your story. I really appreciate it, and again, thank you for your service. I know it's Memorial Day weekend, so I know we'll all be doing a little bit of reflecting on service and things like this, so I appreciate your time.
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Ian Murray
Thank you for your time.
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Alison Gill
No problem. All right, everybody, that's Ian Murray, by the way. Thank you so much, sir. Everybody, stick around. We'll be right back with the good news. All right, let's be real. I'm busy. I do not have hours to spend wandering through stores and scrolling endless fashion sites trying to guess what still counts as in style, especially in spring and summer. I generally just wear black, but I wanted to spruce it up a little bit. Everything feels like it needs a refresh. And that is where Daily look comes in. Thanks to Daily look, the number one personal styling service for women. They're amazing. Thank you for sponsoring us. Make sure you use my promo code Daily Beans, so they know I sent you. And go to dailylook.com for 50% off. Daily look pairs you with a real personal stylist who learns your body shape, your preferences, how you actually live your life. It's not a computer, not the generic quiz, and definitely not a one size fits all approach. You get the same stylist every time, so they build a sense of your taste over time, and they really Nail it. I mean, it's, it's incredible. In my very first box, my stylist sent me an incredible pair of high rise jeans that fit perfectly. I got a great denim jacket, a couple of really beautiful blouses. I was so amazed. The unboxing was incredible. It was beautifully packaged. Everything fit perfectly. It all like fits my style. I was totally blown away by this personal stylist and it's, it's just, it's, it's been incredible. You can try up to 12 pieces per box from the comfort of your home. They carry brands like AG, Girlfriend, Collective, Kate Spade. Sizes 0 to 24. No dressing rooms, no pressure, no weird fluorescent lights. Just you and your mirror and a much easier way to look incredible. So it's time to get your own personal stylist with Daily Look. Head to DailyLook.com and take your style quiz and use code daily beans for 50% off your first order. Once again, that's Daily Look.com for 50% off. And make sure you use my promo code Daily Beans so they know I sent you one last time, DailyLook.com promo code Daily Beans. You'll be glad you did. Everybody, welcome back. It's time for the good news. Who likes good news? Everyone? Then good news, everyone. All right, everybody. If you have any good news, anything, good news, stories, microdose. We got a microdose. Hope so. Any great little thing, send it to us. It can be a shout out to yourself self. Shout outs are amazing. A loved one, a small business in your area, some great community activism you're seeing. Maybe you're going to run for something or you know somebody that's running for something. Maybe you want to give a shout out to a government program that's helped you or a loved one. Whether it's anything From Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, WIC, Section 8, the Affordable Care act, subsidies, anything at all. Great VA health care, student debt relief. Send it all to us. We want to hear about it@dailybeanspod.com and then click on contact and to get your submission right on the air, all you got to do is pay your POD pet tariff. And that can include either a photo of your pet and we're happy to guess the breeds in your shelter pup if you want. If you don't have a pet, an adoptable pet in your area, we'll help them find a forever home. If you don't have that, any animal photo, really, just grab one off the Internet. If you don't have that, any baby photo will do. And then of course, for the foreseeable future, we are accepting bird watching photos, which can be an actual bird or you and your family and friends flipping the bird to Trump and Musk Properties because that always makes me smile. Send it all to us dailybeanspod.com and click on contact. First up, Larry has a correction idea. The Individuals with Disabilities Education act is not pronounced idea. Please say idea. All right, thank you, Larry. Thanks for all you're doing. Larry says, you're welcome, Larry, and very good to know idea. I will say it like that from now on. Next up from Amanda. Hey Queensland, love that you have names for your chin hairs. So do I. I have a German heritage and quite a few dark hairs, so I call my chin hairs the Black Forest. When I pluck them, I refer to it as deforestation. I have also made my husband promise that if I'm ever in a coma that he will do the deforestation for me. Thanks for you and all you do. You get me through more than you know. Podpet tax. Here's my boy, chief with my baby boy. They are besties. Also is my cat Rebel and a rare photo of him giving some baby snuggles. Oh my God, the dog and the baby. Oh, and the kitty sleeping with the baby.
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Ian Murray
Look at this baby.
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Alison Gill
See, babies are warm. I think that's why cats do this, that and they love them, I'm sure. Next up from Anna Marie Pronoun. She and her dear friends been a listener since the end of the kitchen table days and I never miss an episode. I'm sure you all know how much you mean to all of us Leguminati. Especially now. But in case you doubt it, after yesterday's happy hour zoom. I dreamed I was hugging Dana. It was a big warm teddy bear hug. But then I found myself patting her shoulder even though it wasn't a barely touching Oprah style hug. I was still appalled in the dream and then I woke up laughing about it. Maybe I'll dream of a great big Harry Dunn hug next. I sure would love to meet you all in person. It would just be for hugs because I suck at small talk and I can never think of what to say. Anna Marie, thank you. For those who don't know, we had a big long. Well, we had a pretty robust discussion on hugs on this Zoom happy hour call Anna Maria as a correction for you in the bird watching photo. I lived in Romania for two years in the late 90s as a peace Corps volunteer and I got pretty fluent in Romanian. I was sure someone else better at it than I would write to let you know how to pronounce the name of Romania's President elect, but no one has. So here it goes. Nicusor is pronounced the soar like shore Nakushur. Romanians go by their surnames first followed by their given names. So in the US we would call him Dan Nicoshore. I have not been back there since I left. I have kept up on how the country is doing in general and I was so happy to hear they voted for the good guy for Bodpet tariff. I'm including a pic of two of our full grown cats all snuggled up in a cat tree crow's nest meant for one Ajax the purebred Nibalung. Am I saying that right is on the left and Sirius Black is on the right. Last I got myself flipping a blurry bird to a dumpster. I mean cybertruck as we drove by. Excellent bird watching. Annemarie. Thanks. And thanks for being at the happy hour. That was super fun. Great bird photo and great kitties. All right, next up, Anonymous pronoun She and her update thanks for mentioning Schedule F in the Good Trouble segment. It was amazing how many fellow NIH are also leguminati. The deadline for comments on Schedule F Federal Register notice has been extended to June 7th at 11:59pm so if folks didn't get a chance to comment, there's still time. We will have a link in the show notes to make those comments on Schedule F. That's where Trump wants to turn civil. You know, servants exempted into at will fireable appointees. And he wants to do this for tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of federal civil servants so that they don't have any way to fight back if they're fired. So we'll have a link to that in the show notes. Also, some Eagle Eye listener pointed out that we did not have a link in the show notes on Friday's beans to buy tickets to Trump's military parade. The idea not buy tickets but reserve tickets. The idea to reserve tickets and then not show up. So we will have that link also in the show notes. Unless we forget it again and you tell us again and then we'll mention it again tomorrow. All right? Brian Pronouns he and him hi Beans. One piece of good news to share and one sad but thankful shout out the good news. I landed my dream job. I'll be starting a tenure track faculty position in physics at a teaching college this fall. This came after over a decade of being an adjunct faculty working on a quarter by quarter basis and often at multiple institutions to make ends meet. During that time, I worked my butt off taking professional development classes and voluntarily leading efforts to improve our physics program to gain the skills I needed. It all paid off in a big way and a sad but Thankful shout out. We recently had to put our almost 20 year old cat down. We contacted a company called Compassion for Paws in the Seattle Everett area who sent a veterinarian to our home. The euthanasia was done in a peaceful setting rather than at the vet where our cat's anxiety level would have been high. The doctor was very professional and reassuring and our experience could not have been better. Given the sad circumstance. I'm grateful there are people who wish to help others through this difficult process. Big shout out to Compassion for Paws in the Seattle Everett area and beware the cuteness you're about to witness. Oh what a sweet baby. Yeah Brian, we had. Excuse me, I had my cat Booba euthanized at home with Paws to Grace, another great organization that does exactly the same thing. So thank you for that and I'm so sorry for the loss of your baby. Next up, Katie pronoun she and her I just listened to my first happy hour and I want to applaud both Dana and the individual who so bravely shared some of the journey to self discovery live in front of a group of Leguminati. As soon as this person started speaking, I could tell they were grappling with something and to witness them put to words what they were grappling with and see them validated by you both was just something magical. Please forgive me for not remembering their name. I just want to celebrate that moment of bravery as well as Dana's response. It was truly a vulnerable moment that I felt honored to have witnessed. I am a relatively new listener, but I have to say the listener who said she listens to you to fall asleep at night is correct. Works like a charm. And then I wake up re listening in the morning. This has been happening since the Kitchen Table days. Katie they called us the shit show Lullaby. Like I don't know how we could fall asleep to like you're soothing dulcet tones. Even though the content is fucking maniacal, I can still somehow fall asleep to your podcast for my podbet tariff, I'm including a picture of my very best boy who saw me through a very difficult life transition where I was feeling lost and hopeless. He gave me a purpose and I was going through a very traumatic job change and he had been my ray of sunshine through all of it. I've included a picture of Sturgill when we were bringing him home as well, as well as cuddling his tennis ball. Now, as an 18 month old Labrador retriever, that's a handful. Katie, thank you for all you do and the fact that you both make me smarter every day. I love that AG always explains that she sounds smart because she surrounds herself with people smarter than her. I've always tried to inform myself with the smartest people that I can find in order to help me understand the things I couldn't figure out on my own. 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