The Daily Beans - Episode: Woke Pope; MAGA Cope (feat. Rachel Feldman; John Fugelsang) Release Date: May 9, 2025
Hosted by Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg, The Daily Beans dives deep into the latest social justice and political news with a blend of insightful analysis and snarky commentary.
1. Historic Appointment: The First American Pope
Allison Gill introduces the groundbreaking news of Dr. Robert Prevost from Chicago becoming the first Pope from the United States. The hosts express mixed emotions about his selection, dubbing him the "woke pope."
Dana Goldberg reflects on the universal reactions, noting, "anyone that would have been put up for pope is going to have some. They're not going to be fully LGBTQ supportive" (04:28), while Allison Gill hopes for progressive influences within the Vatican, stating, "This guy is from Chicago... he's deeply devoted to fighting for the poor" (04:55).
The episode features a conversation with Charlotte Clymer on Substack Live, where Dana shares her hopes that Pope Prevost will bring a more inclusive approach to the LGBTQ community within the church.
2. Justice System Under Scrutiny: Acquittal of Memphis Police Officers
The hosts discuss the controversial acquittal of three former Memphis police officers charged with the murder of Tyre Nichols.
Dana Goldberg shares a raw statement from Tyre Nichols' family:
"Today's verdicts are a devastating miscarriage of justice... Tyree's life was stolen and his family was denied the justice they so deeply deserve." (07:08).
Allison Gill voices concerns about potential federal interventions, comparing it to past instances where the Department of Justice might undercut charges:
"I hope that the Department of Justice doesn't review the case federally to try to undercut the charges." (08:21).
3. Trump’s Trade Maneuvering: Starlink and International Relations
Allison Gill highlights reports from the Washington Post about Trump leveraging international trade deals to favor Elon Musk’s Starlink satellite service. Internal government messages reveal efforts by Secretary of State Rubio to expedite regulatory approvals for Starlink, aiming to strengthen trade relationships (06:48).
Dana Goldberg expresses alarm over the potential monopoly Musk could gain, stating:
"This is very scary. This is not a good news story." (06:48).
4. Cultural Pushback: Les Misérables Cast Boycotts Trump’s Kennedy Center Appearance
In anticipation of Trump’s fundraiser at the Kennedy Center featuring a performance of Les Misérables, Allison Gill reports that 10-12 cast members plan to boycott the event in protest. The Kennedy Center president, Rick Grenell, defended the decision, asserting the institution's commitment to political neutrality:
"We think it would be important to out those vapid and intolerant artists..." (10:16).
Dana Goldberg vehemently disagrees, calling Grenell "a hypocritical jerk" and criticizing the Kennedy Center for prioritizing political agendas over artistic integrity (10:16).
5. MAGA’s Double-Edged Sword: Public Square Website Backfires
Allison Gill introduces Public Square, a MAGA-friendly online marketplace where businesses align with Trump’s values. Originally intended for supporters to promote their businesses, Dana Goldberg observes that critics are now using the platform to identify and boycott these establishments:
"These idiot Nazis are paying for the privilege of us knowing exactly who to avoid." (20:58).
Dana Goldberg warns of the broader implications, suggesting that Public Square could significantly impact businesses opposed to Trump's agenda (21:03).
6. Political Turmoil: Ed Martin Removed from U.S. Attorney Nomination
Allison Gill and John Fugelsang discuss the removal of Ed Martin from consideration for U.S. Attorney in Washington D.C., a decision influenced by Republican Senator Thom Tillis. John Fugelsang criticizes Martin’s allegiance to MAGA ideologies and his controversial behaviors, labeling him a "lunatic douchebag" and expressing relief over his ousting (55:15; 57:18).
Allison Gill remarks on the Republican Senate's apparent reluctance to challenge Trump's nominees, highlighting a pattern of inconsistency in their political lines (54:32).
7. Senator Fetterman's Mental Health Concerns
The episode covers an incident involving Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, who exhibited erratic behavior during a union meeting, raising questions about his mental health. Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg express concern over Fetterman’s well-being, especially following his previous stroke and battle with depression (15:28; 15:35).
They debate whether Fetterman should resign to prioritize his health and the integrity of his role in the Senate.
8. Legal Battles: Judge Boasberg and the Alien Enemies Act Case
Allison Gill informs listeners about Judge Boasberg’s order for a briefing on discovery in a case concerning the Alien Enemies Act, brought forth by the ACLU. The case involves individuals unlawfully held in El Salvador, with significant implications for immigration policies.
Dana Goldberg speculates on the potential for uncovering unconstitutional practices if discovery is allowed, emphasizing the possibility of revealing illegal actions by the Trump administration (16:13).
9. Interview with Rachel Feldman: Spotlight on "Lilly"
Later in the episode, Allison Gill interviews Rachel Feldman, the director, co-writer, and producer of "Lilly," a biopic about Lily Ledbetter, a pioneering advocate for fair pay.
Rachel Feldman shares her journey of bringing Lilly Ledbetter’s story to the screen, emphasizing themes of resilience and gender equity:
"Fair pay is not a partisan issue. I did not set out to make a political film in any way. I set out to make a film about fair pay." (37:03).
Feldman discusses the challenges faced during production, including securing funding and navigating Hollywood’s gender disparities. The film is set for a limited theatrical release on May 9th, followed by video on demand on June 10th.
10. John Fugelsang’s Commentary: Navigating the "Woke Pope" and Political Climate
John Fugelsang, host of his own show, joins the discussion to critique the new American Pope, Dr. Robert Prevost. He compares Pope Prevost to his predecessor, Pope Francis, highlighting their shared moderate stances and focus on social justice:
"If you're looking to get young people to join your club, fighting for the environment, fighting for people to have clean air and water... Make it a movement about love and caring for each other." (52:37).
Fugelsang criticizes MAGA supporters for opposing any Pope who deviates from their interpretation of Christian teachings, underscoring a clash between progressive religious leadership and conservative political ideologies.
11. Good News Segment: Listener Submissions
The episode concludes with a heartwarming "Good News" segment where listeners share personal stories and shoutouts:
- Sage celebrates turning 40 and overcoming a tumultuous youth to build a fulfilling life.
- Courtney shares a positive interaction with neighbors in rural Michigan, leading to the removal of a Trump banner.
- Anne begins taking flute lessons, inspiring others to pursue their passions at any age.
- Anonymous Listener reminisces about a DIFFA gala from the 1980s and supports their ongoing efforts against AIDS.
Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg respond enthusiastically to each submission, encouraging community engagement and celebrating personal victories.
Conclusion
The episode of The Daily Beans encapsulates a range of pressing issues from religious leadership to systemic injustices and political turbulence. Through incisive commentary and heartfelt interviews, Allison Gill and Dana Goldberg provide listeners with a comprehensive overview of the current socio-political landscape, all while fostering a sense of community and resilience.
Notable Quotes:
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Dana Goldberg on the Pope's potential impact:
"I have to have at least a little bit of hope for the Pope when it comes to the LGBTQ community." (03:38)
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Allison Gill on the Kennedy Center boycott:
"These vapid and intolerant artists to ensure producers know who they shouldn't hire." (10:16)
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Rachel Feldman discussing gender equity:
"Fair pay is not a partisan issue. I did not set out to make a political film in any way." (37:03)
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John Fugelsang critiquing MAGA's stance on the Pope:
"These people hate the teachings of Jesus. He's a fucking prop for MAGA." (46:17)
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