The Daily Beast Podcast
Episode: Real Reason My Uncle Trump Became a Monster: Niece
Date: January 27, 2026
Host: Sarah Ewal Weiss (filling in for Joanna Coles)
Guest: Mary Trump (Author, Clinical Psychologist, Trump family niece)
Episode Overview
This episode features an in-depth, candid conversation with Mary Trump, the clinical psychologist, author, and niece of President Donald Trump. Sarah Ewal Weiss hosts a charged discussion about the ongoing violence and chaos under Trump's administration, the origins of Trump’s character, his deteriorating mental state, the family’s complex history, and the consequences for American democracy and global alliances. Mary weaves personal family stories with sharp political analysis, exploring how her uncle became, in her words, “a monster,” and what it means for the nation and the world.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Escalating Violence Under the Trump Administration
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Recent Killings by Federal Agents: The episode opens with the ICE killing of Alex Preddy, an ICU nurse, in Minneapolis. Mary warns of intensifying violence and a systemic refusal within federal agencies and Trump’s inner circle to accept responsibility or acknowledge harm.
- Quote: “The Trump regime is going to continue to double down on its tactics. It's going to become increasingly violent, and nobody in the executive branch, particularly not Donald, is going to do anything to rein them in.”
— Mary Trump, 01:34
- Quote: “The Trump regime is going to continue to double down on its tactics. It's going to become increasingly violent, and nobody in the executive branch, particularly not Donald, is going to do anything to rein them in.”
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Victim-Blaming as Standard Operating Procedure: Administration officials, from Trump down, attack and defame victims, a move Mary attributes directly to Trump’s lifelong behaviors.
- Quote: “We see also how the very first instinct...is to attack and defame the victims of the crimes perpetrated against them by federal agencies.”
— Mary Trump, 01:34
- Quote: “We see also how the very first instinct...is to attack and defame the victims of the crimes perpetrated against them by federal agencies.”
2. The "Trump Playbook" and Roots in the Trump Family
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Zero Accountability, Maximum Offensive: Mary traces Trump’s current behavior—blaming others, never apologizing, bullying—to family precedent, especially her grandfather Fred Trump.
- Quote: “He learned that from your grandfather. Because apparently my grandfather also never took responsibility for anything. It was always somebody else's fault...it’s one thing to say, ‘Hey, I had nothing to do with it.’ It’s another thing entirely to go after other people and blame them for your transgressions.”
— Mary Trump, 05:47
- Quote: “He learned that from your grandfather. Because apparently my grandfather also never took responsibility for anything. It was always somebody else's fault...it’s one thing to say, ‘Hey, I had nothing to do with it.’ It’s another thing entirely to go after other people and blame them for your transgressions.”
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Culture of Enablers: Starting young, Donald was surrounded by people who enabled and never checked him, from family to banks to media to political parties. This pattern continues in the executive branch and judiciary.
- Quote: “There was a time when he was struggling...that the banks reined him in a little bit. But I don't know...giving somebody a $450,000 a month allowance is really punishment...”
— Mary Trump, 25:34
- Quote: “There was a time when he was struggling...that the banks reined him in a little bit. But I don't know...giving somebody a $450,000 a month allowance is really punishment...”
3. The Era of Propaganda and Gaslighting
- “Reject Your Own Eyes and Ears”: Mary and Sarah connect current media tactics to Orwellian propaganda, citing the White House’s denials despite clear video evidence.
- Quote: “This administration has been empowered in ways to lie...with impunity, with no real hesitation, no concern for consequences.”
— Sarah, 07:14 - Quote: “Donald has been doing this for a very long time...He’s literally telling Americans, ‘No, prices are going down, not up, inflation is going down, not up. You are not struggling.’ And none of that's true. So we see it here, and it is a dangerous mix of delusion and propaganda.”
— Mary Trump, 08:16
- Quote: “This administration has been empowered in ways to lie...with impunity, with no real hesitation, no concern for consequences.”
4. Impunity and Lack of Accountability
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Trump’s Feeling of Invulnerability: Mary explains Trump’s sense of invincibility, rooted not in strength but in decades of being shielded by enablers.
- Quote: “He has no reason to [fear consequences] because he’s gotten away with everything. Not because he has any special powers or particular strengths – he’s like the weakest person I’ve ever known in my life. It’s because his enablers find him useful still, and they also have their own agendas...”
— Mary Trump, 11:08
- Quote: “He has no reason to [fear consequences] because he’s gotten away with everything. Not because he has any special powers or particular strengths – he’s like the weakest person I’ve ever known in my life. It’s because his enablers find him useful still, and they also have their own agendas...”
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Unitary Executive Theory: She highlights how Supreme Court interpretations now seem to grant Trump nearly unlimited powers, and why that’s dangerous for democracy.
5. Cognitive Decline and Public Embarrassment
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Unraveling on the World Stage: Mary critiques Trump’s erratic, repetitive, and confused public appearances (e.g., Davos, confusing Greenland and Iceland).
- Quote: “He appeared to mix up Greenland with Iceland multiple times throughout the speech, which is not the first time he has done this.”
— Sarah, 12:57 - Quote: “There are times when he doesn’t even seem to be oriented to time and place...his rambling and his deteriorating ability for impulse control and his aphasias and all these other signs that all is not well with him.”
— Mary Trump, 19:52
- Quote: “He appeared to mix up Greenland with Iceland multiple times throughout the speech, which is not the first time he has done this.”
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Psychological Coping and Denial: Mary describes how Trump spins every humiliation into a “win,” but notes this defense is becoming harder as cognitive decline sets in.
6. International Fallout and Isolation
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Collapse of Trust Among Allies: Mary discusses the repercussions as world leaders distance themselves, viewing the U.S. as untrustworthy after repeatedly electing Trump.
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Shift in Global Alliances: Canada and the EU seek alternative relationships, including trade with China, as protection against an unreliable America.
- Quote: “Donald Trump, and therefore the United States of America, is the enemy of democracy...the only way through here is to present a united front against Donald and seek other avenues.”
— Mary Trump, 16:57
- Quote: “Donald Trump, and therefore the United States of America, is the enemy of democracy...the only way through here is to present a united front against Donald and seek other avenues.”
7. Family Psychology and Strategic Loyalty
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Trump’s Relationship with Family: Loyalty within the Trump family is strictly transactional, not emotional. Examples include Jared Kushner’s recent re-emergence, not out of trust, but mutual ambition for profit and power.
- Quote: “There’s no loyalty or trust in this family. Every single relationship is transactional...”
— Mary Trump, 30:15
- Quote: “There’s no loyalty or trust in this family. Every single relationship is transactional...”
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Enabling Dynamics: From youth, Donald was surrounded by family, business, and media enablers who furthered his myth and allowed for unchecked behavior.
8. Money as the Only Currency
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Profit Above All: For Trump and his family, money was equated with value, affection, and strength. Trump’s presidency serves as a massive self-enrichment project.
- Quote: “Money in my family was the only currency, literally and metaphorically speaking. So it stood in for everything else, love, affection, etc.”
— Mary Trump, 34:35
- Quote: “Money in my family was the only currency, literally and metaphorically speaking. So it stood in for everything else, love, affection, etc.”
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Steadfast Disdain for Service: Military or government service was viewed with contempt in the family. Only business, power, and wealth mattered.
- Quote: “Military service was disparaged...it was not seen to be a good use of one's time, you know, when you could just be in doing real estate and making lots of money.”
— Mary Trump, 40:12
- Quote: “Military service was disparaged...it was not seen to be a good use of one's time, you know, when you could just be in doing real estate and making lots of money.”
9. Trump’s Relationship with His Mother and Childhood Trauma
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Emotional Neglect: Trump’s depiction of his mother as always supportive is factually incorrect, Mary says, citing her grandmother’s illness and emotional absence during Trump’s formative years.
- Quote: “That is not at all true...when Donald was two and a half, [my grandmother] was very ill and was not available to him physically or emotionally. That is a critically important developmental period. And we are still suffering the consequences from what happened to him during that year...”
— Mary Trump, 45:46
- Quote: “That is not at all true...when Donald was two and a half, [my grandmother] was very ill and was not available to him physically or emotionally. That is a critically important developmental period. And we are still suffering the consequences from what happened to him during that year...”
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Obsessions and Regression: Trump’s fixation on places like Creedmoor and peculiar stories reflects both cognitive decline and unresolved childhood wounds resurfacing.
10. Late Night Rage and Social Media
- Signs of Declining Impulse Control: Trump’s late-night rants and grievance-fueled posts on social media mirror his grandfather’s nocturnal rages, a sign, Mary suggests, of crumbling psychological integrity.
- Quote: “It’s another sign that his impulse control is deteriorating...the frequency and the volume have increased and the detachment from reality has increased.”
— Mary Trump, 53:33
- Quote: “It’s another sign that his impulse control is deteriorating...the frequency and the volume have increased and the detachment from reality has increased.”
11. Legacy, Shame, and Street Cred
- Felon-Status as a Badge of Honor: For Trump, infamy and criminality only fuel his base's support. What bothers him is being called weak or a loser, not being called a thug or criminal.
- Quote: “Calling him a rapist or calling him a criminal, those are things that increase his street cred...What bothers him is being called a loser or having his worth called into question.”
— Mary Trump, 59:44
- Quote: “Calling him a rapist or calling him a criminal, those are things that increase his street cred...What bothers him is being called a loser or having his worth called into question.”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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Mary on Trump’s Escalating Violence and Lack of Restraint:
“He is doubling and quadrupling down on the tactics he's always used, but in a way that's becoming more — I don't even know how to describe the fact that he and others in his administration are so willing to call American citizens who've been murdered at the hands of agencies they control, domestic terrorists...he's not exercising any kind of restraint.” (23:22) -
Mary on Family Enablers:
“The entire family and my grandfather's business was in service to propping Donald up and enriching him. Definitely. That feels like...the Trump regime right now, that's from the DOJ on down, everybody in this administration is in service to enriching and protecting and enabling Donald.” (56:38)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Escalating Regime Violence/Public Reaction: 01:34 – 05:12
- Family Origins of the Trump Playbook: 05:47 – 08:16
- Orwellian Gaslighting and Media: 07:14 – 10:57
- Supreme Court/Legal Impunity: 10:57 – 12:57
- Cognitive Decline in Public Appearances: 12:57 – 19:52
- International Fallout and Ally Dynamics: 13:39 – 19:07
- Board of Peace Ceremony & Strongmen: 19:07 – 22:29
- Family Enabling and Money as Value: 25:34 – 34:35
- Military Service Disparagement: 38:49 – 43:22
- Mother’s Emotional Absence & Childhood: 45:46 – 49:50
- Trump's Social Media Rage: 53:33 – 55:44
- Felon Status & Trump’s Self-Perception: 59:44 – 62:21
Final Thoughts
Mary Trump offers a candid, psychological, and personal critique of her uncle Donald Trump, exposing long-standing family dynamics that shaped his worldview and leadership. She argues that Donald is the product of relentless enabling, emotional neglect, and value systems rooted entirely in money and power. The result, she contends, is an administration spiraling into greater violence and lies, with a president increasingly detached from reality but still cheered on by enablers both old and new. The episode is a sobering reflection on personal psychology’s intersection with national and global catastrophe.
