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Episode: The Reason Why Trump and His Goons Are Scrambling
Host: Joanna Coles (Chief Content Officer, The Daily Beast)
Guest/Co-host: Michael Wolff (journalist, author)
Date: April 10, 2026
(Timestamps in MM:SS format)

Overview:

This episode dives into the Trump administration’s political unraveling amid a disastrous foreign policy blunder in Iran, the chaos consuming Trump’s inner circle, and the desperate self-preservation tactics of his top lieutenants. Joanna Coles and Michael Wolff deliver sharp, darkly funny commentary on the current state of White House decision-making, drawing comparisons to historical presidential failures and speculating on looming resignations, MAGA base backlash, and the media’s inability to capture Trump’s true incompetence. The episode also explores the dynamics between Trump, his cabinet, Israel, Iran, and the broader global response—with a look toward the potential end of Trump’s political relevance.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Trump’s Iran Disaster – Political Fallout and International Humiliation

• “He got himself into the end point of something he could not do.” (Michael Wolff, 03:25)
  • Trump’s “destroy civilization” threat was empty and childish. The result: he cedes ground to the Iranians and winds up with a humiliating two-week ceasefire that achieves nothing for the U.S.
• The two-week ceasefire is ridiculed as Trump’s typical stalling tactic:
  • “Whenever he's asked a question that he can't answer, he goes to the two week response. … It actually tends to work. … there will be enough smoke so that he won't have to directly face the issue that he has achieved nothing in this war.” (Wolff, 05:14)
• The U.S. comes away with no regime change, Iran remains in control of the Strait of Hormuz, and their nuclear capacity remains intact.
  • “Strategically, the Strait of Hormuz that hadn't been in play now appears to be entirely in the control of the Iranians. So in effect, this has actually been yet another shit show.” (Coles, 06:36)

2. Historical Parallels and the ‘Humpty Dumpty Moment’

• The hosts compare Trump’s debacle to Biden’s Afghanistan exit and Bush’s “Mission Accomplished,” emphasizing that some political events are unrecoverable.
  • “These are those moments which are unforgettable ... war has the attention of the world in victory, which never comes, or ignominy, which at which point we have arrived.” (Wolff, 08:34)
• Coles coins this as Trump’s “Humpty Dumpty moment”—everything’s come apart and can’t be put back together.

3. Internal Chaos – Cabinet Purges, Blame Games, and Plotting

Timestamps: 13:11–17:29

• Wolff describes White House staff as profoundly rattled and directionless; everyone is “plotting” their own survival, especially figures like Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth, Jared Kushner, and J.D. Vance.
  • “Everybody's plotting. Marco Rubio is plotting, Hagseth is plotting, Jared Kushner is plotting, and J.D. Vance is plotting. But J.D. Vance doesn't really know how to plot well.” (Wolff/anonymous senior source, 13:38)
• J.D. Vance’s attempts to seem loyal while leaking to the press and distancing himself from the Iran debacle are dissected with humor:
  • "He's trying to look loyal, supporting the president, but also advising against." (Coles, 15:41)
  • “I don't know how he comes out looking loyal because it's going to be clear that he was a source on this.” (Wolff, 15:56)
• Pete Hegseth, painted as the only one not plotting, is mocked as “too dumb to know that he needs to retreat.”

4. Netanyahu’s Influence and the Israel Factor

Timestamps: 16:40–17:34

• Trump’s susceptibility to Benjamin Netanyahu and Israeli intelligence is highlighted as a key catalyst for the U.S. going to war.
  • “The answer to why we went to war is because Bibi came to Washington and Trump was like, oh, my God, these guys are so smart. They know everything. They're Mossad.” (Wolff, 16:40)

5. Tucker Carlson’s MAGA Realignment

• Carlson is emerging as the leading anti-war MAGA figure, implicitly prepping for a presidential run and lambasting Trump’s incompetence.
  • “Tucker is without question setting himself up for a presidential run. … He is the anti war candidate, the anti war MAGA candidate.” (Wolff, 17:34)
• Tucker’s influence is recurring, with Wolff noting their long acquaintance and Tucker’s ideological consistency on the dangers of civilian-directed war.

6. The Media’s Failures, Especially The New York Times

Timestamps: 20:49–23:14

• Wolff: The NYT’s narrative style normalizes Trump’s chaos, perpetuating a false sense of deliberative process:
  • “They’ve laid out… a portrait of a president who won’t listen, can’t understand, overly impressed by the people around him … we’re so far out of the realm of normal statecraft.” (Wolff, 19:05)
  • “Why are we in the Trump mess? Partly because of the New York Times, because they don’t have the intellectual capability to express what’s going on.” (Wolff, 20:50)

7. MAGA and GOP Backlash—25th Amendment Talk and Shifting Political Winds

Timestamps: 24:17–26:49

• Republicans (like Marjorie Taylor Greene) are openly discussing the 25th Amendment. Even MAGA stalwarts like Alex Jones and Tucker are breaking ranks.
• Election fallout is already being felt with GOP losses and diminishing majorities, even in MAGA strongholds.
  • “There’s no appetite for this in the MAGA base … you have the results of the election around the country, various seats up for grabs and a big swing to the Democrats even when the Republicans won.” (Coles, 24:17)

8. Strategic Implications—Strait of Hormuz Stalemate

Timestamps: 30:17–31:16

• Major shipping disruptions persist: 450 tankers idling in the Gulf, as Iran clamps down and the world’s economies feel the ripple effects.
  • “There are 450 tankers in the Gulf idling as they try to figure out will they be one of the tankers allowed through by Iran. … at the moment there's between four and eight. And that is completely unresolved.” (Coles, 30:17)
• Wolff is “speechless” at the scale of the disaster, noting this entire collapse happened within five weeks.

9. Cabinet Bloodletting and Trump’s Irritation

Timestamps: 32:06–35:03

• Further cabinet shakeups loom, with hints that Labor Secretary Laurie Chavez De Rimmer may be next to go—possibly for reasons rooted in Trump’s penchant for firing women and poking at DEI initiatives.
  • “Who he fires at this point is not a very important story. … he has so moved the attention on his own incompetence.” (Wolff, 35:03)
  • The bigger story: Trump himself is now universally seen as the main agent of chaos and instability.

10. What Happens Next—Blame Shifting, Isolation, and the Specter of the End

Timestamps: 37:02–39:55

• Trump will turn to blaming NATO, Democrats, individual European leaders, and may even pivot to blaming Israel to realign with the MAGA base, despite the contradiction.
  • "He's going to blame Israel... there's a fundamental piece of antisemitism there. And then... Netanyahu and Israel have positioned themselves as the bad guys." (Wolff, 37:59)
• J.D. Vance is sent into diplomatic “harm’s way” in Pakistan, viewed as expendable and out of his depth.
  • “JD is shaping up to be everybody’s fool.” (Wolff, 40:50)

11. The Rise of a Post-Trump Right

• Figures like Tucker Carlson and even RFK Jr. are seen building new platforms as Trump’s grip on the GOP loosens.
  • Podcaster competition: “The Mr. Crack Pipe himself, RFK Jr.” (Wolff, 45:06)

12. Prediction: “The Beginning of the End”

• Wolff and Coles agree this is likely “the beginning of the end” for Trump's political dominance.
  • “This is the beginning of the end.” (Wolff, 50:02)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "It's a childish threat. It's like when a child says, 'well, I'm gonna leave you all,' and storms out of the house. And then they're hiding in the garden." (Coles, 04:11)
• “The president’s brain is missing.” (Coles, 23:14)
• "The only one not trying to retreat is Pete Hegseth, too dumb. Too dumb to know that he has to retreat." (Wolff, 15:56)
• “What’s inside Trump’s head? He does not know what to do. He at some level recognizes that he has gotten himself into a corner which he can’t get out of.” (Wolff, 10:28)
• “He comes out of this five week war in which the world clearly sees him as the... much bigger menace to peace than Iran.” (Wolff, 35:03)
• "His fundamental political calculation is if I get the lion’s share of attention, nobody else gets any attention. And it’s just not going to work on this situation..." (Wolff, 29:11)
• “This is such a cock up. ... A historic international disaster. In five weeks we’ve seen the beginning, middle and end.” (Wolff, 31:16)
• “This is the Donald Trump playbook: look at who to blame." (Wolff, 37:02)
• “He is the existential event which everybody in the world clearly recognizes. This is the central problem in the world. It's not Vladimir Putin, it's Donald Trump.” (Wolff, 35:49)
• "This is the beginning of the end." (Wolff, 50:02)

Listener Interaction & Humor

• Two listener-submitted political limericks about Trump’s antics and J.D. Vance’s predicament (53:32–54:32).
• Jokes about RFK Jr.'s new career as a podcaster, and musings about U.S. politics, personal anecdotes involving Rupert Murdoch, and book promotion add to the dinner party-style banter.

Conclusion

The episode paints a picture of an administration in freefall: isolated, paranoid, and beset by infighting—all while America’s global standing plummets. Trump’s own enablers are turning on him, and even loyalists like J.D. Vance are looking for cover. The hosts contend that, after years of chaos, this foreign policy failure is different—defining, irreversible, and, likely, the beginning of Trump’s final unraveling as a political force.

Key Timestamps

• 03:25 – Analysis of Trump’s failed Iran threat
• 06:36 – U.S. achieves nothing, Iran empowered
• 13:11–17:29 – Cabinet plotting and backstabbing
• 20:49 – Media failures: the NYT’s Trump coverage
• 24:17 – MAGA/GOP splits, 25th Amendment talk
• 30:17 – Strait of Hormuz shipping crisis
• 35:03 – Cabinet firings, focus shifts to Trump’s reckoning
• 37:02–39:55 – Trump’s blame-shifting; Israel relations
• 40:50 – J.D. Vance’s status as the fall guy
• 45:06 – RFK Jr. pivots to podcasting
• 50:02 – The beginning of Trump’s end

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