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Michael Tracey (0:58)
If she is in, in some kind of, of secret or not so secret revolt against him, which I think she might be in the times that she has come, come out, that has not been good for them. The Epstein thing drawing attention to that, her, her just peculiar attitude about everything, her absence, her strategic absences. This is not good for them and it's not necessarily controllable for them.
Ryan Grim (1:31)
Michael Joy Ella, oh my goodness. Do you think either Melania or Donald Trump know that Melania has written an ode to motherhood in the Washington Post?
Michael Tracey (1:48)
Well, having read the ode to motherhood in the Washington Post by Melania Trump, I would say certainly that she didn't write it. So it makes sense that she didn't read it and, and he doesn't read anything. So yeah, I think, I think this probably has a completely independent life of, from both of them. But having said that, I mean I think it's, it's, it's part of what we're, we're now seeing. This is the new Melania and the new Melania is brand Melania. It's all, all about how she sees her future business, which is the Melania business. So now she's, she's speaking up for motherhood in such a peculiar way also.
Ryan Grim (2:37)
Yeah, yeah, it makes no sense.
Michael Tracey (2:38)
She's, she's speaking up it would seem for, for single mothers everywhere. I'm, I'm totally perplexed by this.
Ryan Grim (2:49)
Okay, so for those of you who don't know what we're talking about, this is an op ed that Melania Trump has written ahead of Mother's Day on Sunday in the Washington Post on the op ed page, which you will remember last year, was it the year before, Jeff Bezos said that really the op ed page in the Washington Post should only be used for free market ideas. That's what he wanted to extol. And the then op ed editor of the Washington Post left and lots of other journalists left too. And you will remember that Jeff Bezos decided against carrying the endorsement for Kamala Harris anyway, Melania.
