
President Trump is in the Middle East on the first major international trip of his second term. At the same time, a firestorm has erupted over his plan to accept a $400 million luxury airplane from the Qatari government. Today, Maggie Haberman, a White House correspondent, explains how the free plane may set a problematic precedent — and what Qatar might expect in return.
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Rachel Abrams
From the new York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams, and this is the Daily President Donald Trump is in the Middle east on the first major international trip of his second term. And at the same time, a firestorm has erupted over his plan to accept a $400 million luxury airplane from the Qatari government. Today, my colleague Maggie Haberman explains why to many people, this free plane is problematic. And it's not just because of the precedent it sets, but also what Qatar might expect in return. It's Wednesday, May 14th.
Maggie Haberman
Donald Trump is set to accept a.
Rachel Abrams
Very pricey gift from the royal family of Qatar, taking delivery of a Boeing.
Maggie Haberman
747 that will be used as Air Force One during his second term. President Trump says the US Government is poised to accept an airplane from Qatar valued at nearly $400 million, a super luxury Boeing jumbo jet from the royal family of Qatar. The very lavish gift is raising substantial ethical and legal questions.
Unknown Speaker
Maggie, I have been seeing all of these stories having to do something with a plane and President Trump and Qatar. And can you just tell us what is going on?
Maggie Haberman
Sure. So first of all, thanks for having me. Rachel. It's great to be here with you.
Unknown Speaker
It's great to be here with you.
Maggie Haberman
What's going on here is that President Trump plans and has been very clear that he plans to accept a plane that he indicated is going to be donated by the Qataris for him to fly around on as a new Air Force One. And this is a luxury plane worth about $400 million, decked out on the interiors used by the royal family in Qatar. And it has caused an enormous amount of outrage. This is not just naked corruption. It is also a grave national security threat.
Unknown Speaker
Explain that outrage a little bit. What's the reaction been?
Maggie Haberman
So Democrats have been very vocal that they think this is essentially, you know, some form of a payoff to the president. And what people will now see is the most powerful man on earth flying around in a plane paid for by a foreign government. We can't have our president or anyone else being influenced by foreign government gifts. It's disgusting and it's outrageous and unacceptable. It's wildly corrupt because as the editorial page of the New York Post said, it's hard to imagine that officials in Qatar think that they are doing this just to be nice. And it's hard to know what exactly they might want in return. I imagine the government of Qatar would expect a return on this investment in the President of the United States. So this is ridiculous to think that he could take this airplane. Most Republican elected officials have been pretty muted. There have been a few who have commented, well, what I'm concerned is the safety of the president. I mean, Qatar's not, in my opinion, a great ally. I mean, they support Hamas. It's worth. It's worth the investment here in this country to build a big, beautiful gym here in the United States. So. But really, there has been a pretty strong reaction from some conservative Republican MAGA influencers, whatever bucket you want to put them in, who are normally pretty aligned with President Trump and who have said that this is not exactly draining the swamp as he said he would. Taking sacks of goodies from people who support Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Jazeera, all the rest of the. That's not America First. Like, please define America first in a way that says you should take sacks of cash from the Qatari royals.
Unknown Speaker
Basically, the people that are really concerned about this are worried that it's like a flying bribe or something.
Maggie Haberman
Yeah, exactly. A flying bribe is precisely how I think they would put it, even though I know that the White House would say that that is not what it is. And President Trump got very angry at the suggestion that there could be an appearance of impropriety about this. He also said, Rachel, that he won't continue flying on it when he leaves office.
Unknown Speaker
And just to be clear, if this is a straight up gift from a foreign state, is that prohibited by any rules? Do we know?
Maggie Haberman
It's a great question. A straight up gift to an elected official by a foreign government is generally not allowed and needs to be approved by Congress. The way in which this might work seems sounds like it would be as a donation to the Defense Department, which is not totally unheard of, although certainly not under this kind of circumstance. And then it would be donated in some way or turned over in some way to President Trump's presidential library right before he leaves office. But it is gonna raise all kinds of questions.
Unknown Speaker
I, unlike you, Maggie, do not know much about Air Force One. In a normal world, how does a plane become an Air Force One plane.
Maggie Haberman
In a normal world? And for a while, in this world, a new Air Force One is commissioned by the presidential administration by a major airplane maker. It's been Boeing, and there is a contract that is active with Boeing for two new Air Force ones. And these planes are commissioned specifically for this purpose. They get built out for this purpose and they get fitted with certain systems that only exist for this purpose.
Rachel Abrams
Okay, but if we already have an Air Force One, why is President Trump even entertaining the idea of getting a new Air Force One?
Maggie Haberman
So the backstory here is that Donald Trump, for starters, is very obsessed with airplanes and obsessed with the way things look. This Boeing 757 is a sleek, narrow bodied, long legged beauty and she's treated like the celebrity who owns her. This is Donald Trump's private jet, a Boeing 757. And obsessed with airplanes as a status symbol. That's the big thing for him.
Unknown Speaker
One of the things very important to me on the Boeing 757 was the Rolls Royce engines. They're special.
Maggie Haberman
He has owned planes of his own. Planes outfitted with a full bar, entertainment system, ipod docking system, and how can we forget 24 karat gold trimming. President Trump is flying around on two more than 30 years old, I think almost 40 year old air Force ones that were commissioned from Boeing very long time ago.
Unknown Speaker
But you know, when I first came in, I said, how old is Air Force One? Now we have.
Maggie Haberman
They are not in great shape.
Unknown Speaker
So Air Force One is a very old plane. It's beautiful, but it's an old 747.
Maggie Haberman
They're pretty janky, but it's 30 years.
Unknown Speaker
Can you believe it? So I said, so what's going on?
Maggie Haberman
Well, the interiors are not especially nice, but no administration.
Unknown Speaker
Obama, Bush, they didn't want to do it because it sounds luxury, but at some point you got to buy a plane for the country.
Maggie Haberman
And these, I mean, they're certainly nicer than a commercial airplane, but they're not, you know, what you might see on say a Qatari luxury jet.
Unknown Speaker
And these Arab countries would have their beautiful 7 47, 8 hundreds, 9 hundreds pour in and they were gorgeous.
And believe it or not, I'm picturing like ripped cushion.
Maggie Haberman
There's no, there's no ripped cushions, but there it looks like you were getting into, I'm trying to think how to describe this if you were getting into like what was a really nice leather interior in the 1990s. Ah.
Unknown Speaker
And I'm good at airplanes. Okay.
Maggie Haberman
It looks like it is weathered. It looks. That's a great word. And the planes themselves are enormous and they have a lot of fuel on them, so they shudder when they take off.
Unknown Speaker
That must feel great.
Maggie Haberman
It's wonderful. Especially for those of us afraid of flying. And they really, like, heave to get into the air. And this has always irritated Trump that this is sort of a bit of a janky plane or two planes that need constant servicing and are old and are not sleek and streamlined. And so Trump renegotiated existing contracts that President Obama had signed, actually, when President Trump was in office the first time, for two new Air Force Ones that were being commissioned by Boeing. And Boeing, which is making them, has obviously had all kinds of struggles. And here we are now where the planes are very delayed, and they are, as of now, still not likely to be ready while President Trump is in office, which is very irritating to him. He has been very frustrated that he would not get to fly on the Air Force ones that he renegotiated the contracts for last time. He wanted to fly around in these new planes. And so he has been looking at ways, including asking Elon Musk to help him get something done faster, where he could have a new Air Force One in the next year and a half, possibly even by the end of the year. And that is how this Qatari plane was turned to as an option.
Unknown Speaker
Why the Qataris? Why this plane? Why from them?
Maggie Haberman
So Trump toured this plane in February when it was parked at the Palm Beach International Airport, and he clearly really liked it. This is a plane, the Qatari plane, that has very lavish interiors. So it's really not gonna require a lot of work there. It would obviously need some kind of equipment upgrades, and it would need to be militarized. And there are some security concerns here about having a Qatari plane and whether there would be any kind of a bugging or spying or so forth. I know that that's a concern that a lot of officials have raised, but at the end of the day, it is a much prettier plane than the ones he's flying on right now, and that's why we're here.
Unknown Speaker
I want to break down a little bit what you said about the things that need to happen to the Qatari planes in order for them to become Air Force One planes. So, like the militarization of the planes, what does that mean?
Maggie Haberman
So Air Force One has to be able to survive a nuclear blast. It has to be able to evade certain missiles that are shot at it. It has to operate as a travel center for a president in wartime. Don't forget, President George W. Bush was famously in the air, basically as a mobile White House after 9, 11. And that is where he was monitoring the aftermath of the attacks, and he was issuing directives. So Air Force One has to be equipped to do all kinds of things. And it has to have certain secure communication systems. And the hope would be to have it done by the end of the year. Is that realistic? A lot of defense experts have told us not really. That is what they have been looking at. And it seems as of now as if they are going to move forward.
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Unknown Speaker
So, Maggie, this proposed gift for this plane, what do we know about the terms?
Maggie Haberman
Very little. It's all notional right now because the administration has not released whatever legal analysis that they say they have done. But what we know of and what we're told is that Attorney General Pam Bondi, who we should note was a lobbyist for Qatar prior to becoming the attorney general. But putting that aside, she and the White House counsel, David Warrington, decided that it was legally permissible for the Defense Department to get this donated plane and then for that plane to be turned over to the Trump Library just before he leaves office. The model that has been cited to us is the donation to the Reagan Presidential library of the 707 plane that President Reagan flew around in when it was retired and decommissioned.
Unknown Speaker
Okay, so the idea here being that, like the Qataris would not be donating it to him, they would be donating it to the Department of Defense. And then after Trump leaves office, the plane doesn't go to him. It goes to his library. So it's still not going to him, and therefore it's more kosher.
Maggie Haberman
That's.
Unknown Speaker
Is that the idea?
Maggie Haberman
That's the idea. I mean, it seems as if, based on what we've been told by the administration, they are taking two separate concepts. One is that it is permissible in the past to donate an aircraft to the Department of Defense. And then, separately, the Reagan Library had this retired plane that President Reagan had flown around on. That plane is on display at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California. I've toured it. It's hard to imagine that President Trump would not like to hang onto this plane for personal use himself.
Unknown Speaker
He wouldn't.
Maggie Haberman
It's much nicer than his own. He said on Monday that he is not going to keep flying around in it. But I know that most people who have some visibility into this process are a bit skeptical of that.
Unknown Speaker
Okay. Whether or not he actually keeps his plane for his personal use, what it seems like is that the sitting president of the US Just got or will get, or is negotiating to get a $400 million plane for free. A plane that the US would otherwise be paying a United States company to manufacture and retrofit. And it just seems like it's hard to think of this as anything other than a gift, even if they've technically donated it to the Department of Defense.
Maggie Haberman
Yeah, look, this doesn't match any kind of Department of Defense donation that I'm aware of in the past. I am willing to be shown wrong, but I don't know of that. The military would have to retrofit any plane that it acquired that was not built from scratch as an Air Force One. But the bigger issue is, again, that this is the royal family of a country that I just want to also point out the Trump accused of sponsoring terrorism at the highest levels. I think those were his words in 2017, and encouraged a blockade of. And that blockade ended in 2021, just as he was leaving office. But now it is acceptable for him, in his mind, to accept this donation. I don't know what this ends up legally looking like. I do know that if President Biden had done the same thing, the outrage from Republicans would have been as loud as the outrage from Democrats is now.
Unknown Speaker
Do we have any idea what might be in it for the Qataris to do this?
Maggie Haberman
That's the question. I mean, we don't know. The president said something. It was almost as if he's thinking of this as some kind of a return on Investment which was, you know, we provide security for them. I don't think there's a mutual defense treaty, but there is a very large US Military base in Qatar and there has been a strategic alliance.
Unknown Speaker
Okay, there shouldn't be too many questions. It's been covered pretty well.
Maggie Haberman
But that was the question he was asked by the ABC News reporter on Monday. Has Qatar asked for anything in exchange for that $400 million luxury jumbo jet? And how can the American people be so sure that they will not in the future? Well, I think what happened, she asked him, you know, can you assure the American people that Qatar is not looking for something in return?
Unknown Speaker
And I think Qatar, who has really, we've helped them a lot over the years in terms of security and safety.
Maggie Haberman
I felt they, he didn't really answer it other than just saying, you know, they want to do this.
Unknown Speaker
I think that was a very nice gesture. Now, I could be a stupid person and say, oh, no, we don't want a free plane, we give free planes.
Maggie Haberman
And that somebody would be quote, unquote, stupid to turn down such a free gift.
Lori Leibovich
Respect.
Maggie Haberman
Mr. As a businessman, some people may look at this and say, have you ever been given a gift worth millions.
Unknown Speaker
Of dollars and then not received anything?
It's not a gift to me. It's a gift to the Department of Defense. And you should know better because you've been embarrassed enough and so has your network.
Maggie Haberman
What Qatar could want in exchange, I don't know. But I know that that question is going to come up a lot if this gift goes through.
Unknown Speaker
I understand that we don't actually know what they want now or maybe would want in the future, but could you just, Maggie, tick through the relationships between Trump World and Qatar? You mentioned Pambandi. Like, what else do we know?
Maggie Haberman
It's a good question. And look, I mean, there is a very long history of US Officials, not just in the Trump administration, lobbying on behalf of Mideast countries. There are, however, a lot of Qatari connections. So Jared Kushner, President Trump's son in law, who's not in the administration now, but whose work in the past administration was beneficial to him in private business, runs an investment fund that has Saudi investments and also has Qatari investments. And that's one connection. Steve Witkoff, Trump's special envoy, who works a lot in the Mid east, is a private businessman with work involving Qataris. The Trump company is building a golf course, I believe, in Qatar. So there are a lot of entanglements. There's no question.
Unknown Speaker
Maggie, as you almost Certainly know Trump is currently in the Middle east on, I think this is his first major trip since coming back into the White House for a second term. One of the stops that he's on is to Qatar and it's notable where he's not going, which is Israel, despite the fact the biggest conflict in the Middle east is in Gaza, obviously between Hamas and Israel. What do we make of this?
Maggie Haberman
So it's not surprising that he's going to Qatar. It is a country where the US had been seen as an ally prior, frankly to Trump's comments in 2017 about Qatari's sponsoring terrorism. But the broader message of this entire enterprise that he's engaging in this week to your question, Rachel, is there's no clear foreign policy aim for the US it's deals for this. Deals, deals, deals, yes. Look, when he went to Saudi Arabia in 2017, the goal was to try to minimize extremism in the region. That was the stated purpose. This purpose is deals and it's stated as deals for the US but is there an overlap now and a lot of cross currents between deals for the US and deals that could be beneficial to the President? Clearly.
Rachel Abrams
So the deals, deals, deals, the deal.
Unknown Speaker
Making, what kind of deals and with whom? What are we talking about?
Maggie Haberman
So there's purported investment coming from Saudi Arabia. I believe that he is looking for similar investment declarations from other countries. And then there are corporate leaders who all have shown up at this Saudi investment forum, some of whom have been Trump donors like Elon Musk. Then there are people who Trump has spoken to frequently over the years. Steve Schwarzman, chief executive of the Blackstone Group. Larry Fink from BlackRock is there. Sam Altman, the chief executive of OpenAI, the head of Palantir. There's the head of Halliburton, the president of FIFA, the head of Boeing is there as we're talking about Boeing in these airplanes.
Unknown Speaker
And so wait, the head of Boeing is there?
Maggie Haberman
Yeah. Apparently awkward. It's. Well, I'm not sure what their side conversations were, but certainly the backdrop of the conversation is interesting. And one thing just to remember, Rachel, about the Qatari plane, the initial report was that this plane was going to be gifted to him or announced as a gift to him while he's in Qatari this week. The Qatari officials after that report said that that was incorre and the discussions around Trump obtaining this plane were still ongoing. So I got the sense just from that statement that Qatari officials don't want the headline out of this week to be we're giving you a big gift. And here we are, so taking all of this together.
Rachel Abrams
The plane deal with Qatar, the trip with all these business leaders with no clear diplomatic purpose. I can see why it all feels a little unclear as to what President Trump's primary goal is here.
Maggie Haberman
So there's no question that there are some real deals for the country that Trump is looking to achieve here. Whether it's artificial intelligence or nuclear power, these are still important exercises for him as a president that could be beneficial to the US it is unavoidable to note that all of these discussions are in a region that is increasingly significant to the Trump family's own business interests. And presidents are not subject to to ethics rules the way staff are. But presidents, and they don't all succeed at this, obviously. But generally speaking, the standard that presidents have been held to is to try to avoid appearances of conflicts of interest so that voters are not raising questions about who these presidents are working on behalf of.
Unknown Speaker
Right. Because if this is not a bad look, then what is a bad look?
Maggie Haberman
Trump increasingly doesn't care. He's making that very clear. About negative headlines Jonathan Swan and I wrote a story during the transition about how the two guardrails on him historically were the stock market and bad press coverage. The stock market he's reacted somewhat to, but negative press coverage hasn't exactly been much of a hindrance to him. And he is angry that he is even being questioned about this. And he is determined that he wants to get this plane regardless of the criticism he's receiving. And so far we have seen, he is willing to dig in and ride out the storm.
Unknown Speaker
Maggie, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much.
Maggie Haberman
Rachel, thank you.
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Summary of "Qatar Offers Trump a $400 Million Luxury Jet" – The Daily by The New York Times
Release Date: May 14, 2025
In this episode of The Daily, host Rachel Abrams interviews journalist Maggie Haberman to delve into the contentious proposal of President Donald Trump accepting a $400 million luxury airplane from the Qatari government. This potential gift, intended to serve as the new Air Force One, has ignited significant debate across the political spectrum in the United States.
[00:22] Rachel Abrams introduces the central issue of the episode:
"President Donald Trump is in the Middle East on the first major international trip of his second term. And at the same time, a firestorm has erupted over his plan to accept a $400 million luxury airplane from the Qatari government."
This sets the stage for a deep dive into the ethical, legal, and political implications of the proposed luxury jet.
[01:26] Maggie Haberman provides an overview of the situation:
"President Trump says the US Government is poised to accept an airplane from Qatar valued at nearly $400 million, a super luxury Boeing jumbo jet from the royal family of Qatar. The very lavish gift is raising substantial ethical and legal questions."
The aircraft in question is a Boeing 747, intended to replace the aging Air Force One fleet currently in service.
When questioned about the public and political reaction, [02:47] Maggie Haberman elaborates:
"Democrats have been very vocal that they think this is essentially, you know, some form of a payoff to the president. And what people will now see is the most powerful man on earth flying around in a plane paid for by a foreign government."
She further notes that while Democrats are openly condemnatory, some conservative voices are also expressing concern, challenging President Trump's "America First" stance.
[04:20] Maggie Haberman addresses the legality of such a gift:
"A straight up gift to an elected official by a foreign government is generally not allowed and needs to be approved by Congress."
The administration suggests that the plane could be donated to the Department of Defense and later transferred to Trump's Presidential Library, mimicking the precedent set by the Reagan Presidential Library's acquisition of President Reagan's 707.
Exploring Trump's personal motivations, [05:28] Maggie Haberman explains:
"Donald Trump, for starters, is very obsessed with airplanes and obsessed with the way things look."
Trump's dissatisfaction with the current Air Force One fleet stems from their age and perceived lack of luxury compared to the proposed Qatari jet.
[09:16] Maggie Haberman discusses why Qatar is the chosen source for the plane:
"Trump toured this plane in February when it was parked at the Palm Beach International Airport, and he clearly really liked it."
However, significant security concerns arise, including potential vulnerabilities to espionage or unauthorized access, given the plane's foreign origin.
When probed about the terms and possible quid pro quo, [12:47] Maggie Haberman states:
"Attorney General Pam Bondi and White House counsel David Warrington decided that it was legally permissible for the Defense Department to get this donated plane and then for that plane to be turned over to President Trump's presidential library just before he leaves office."
Despite this arrangement, skepticism remains about Qatar's true intentions and what they might seek in return for such a lavish gift.
[17:44] Maggie Haberman outlines the intricate business connections between Trump's associates and Qatar:
"Jared Kushner, President Trump's son-in-law... runs an investment fund that has Saudi investments and also has Qatari investments."
These ties raise further questions about potential conflicts of interest and the blending of personal business with official state matters.
Discussing broader implications, [21:12] Maggie Haberman comments on Trump's disregard for traditional ethical considerations:
"Trump increasingly doesn't care. He's making that very clear. About negative headlines."
This attitude suggests a potential erosion of ethical standards in presidential conduct, prioritizing personal or political gains over national interests.
The episode concludes with ongoing negotiations and the administration's efforts to legitimize the donation. [22:52] Maggie Haberman emphasizes President Trump's determination to proceed despite criticism:
"He is determined that he wants to get this plane regardless of the criticism he's receiving."
The situation remains fluid, with substantial scrutiny from both political opponents and the public regarding the true nature and implications of Qatar's proposed gift.
Key Takeaways:
This episode underscores the intricate interplay between international relations, presidential authority, and ethical governance, highlighting the challenges of maintaining impartiality and integrity at the highest levels of office.