Summary of "The Fight Between Trump and Harvard Continues to Escalate" The Daily with The New York Times, Hosted by Rachel Abrams and Mike Schmidt Release Date: May 29, 2025

Introduction and Context

The episode delves into the escalating conflict between Harvard University and the Trump administration, set against the backdrop of a politically charged environment. As Harvard students approach graduation, concerns about federal interference and funding cuts loom large. A Harvard student reflects on the tense atmosphere, stating, “We've just been watching the news, scared, and we've somehow become pawns in this political culture war” (00:01).

Escalation of Conflict

Rachel Abrams introduces the central conflict: Harvard, one of America's most prestigious universities, is embroiled in a standoff with the federal government. The Trump administration has singled out Harvard, unlike other institutions, for criticism and punitive measures. Mike Schmidt highlights the unprecedented nature of this targeted attack: “It has been a relentless attack in a way that certainly I didn't think an administration was capable of pulling off” (03:22).

The origins of this conflict trace back to early discussions in March, where the administration sought changes at Harvard concerning antisemitism on campus. This issue gained prominence following incidents of harassment against Jewish students after the October 7th attacks. However, the administration's grievances extended beyond antisemitism to include Harvard’s Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) policies and what it perceives as the university being “too woke” (04:16; 05:31).

The Demand Letter and Harvard's Response

A pivotal moment in the conflict occurred when the Trump administration unexpectedly sent a demand letter to Harvard. Mike Schmidt explains, “The letter is not just what the administration wants Harvard to do, but it's a series of demands about how Harvard would operate” (07:14). Notably, one of the demands was the appointment of Stephen Miller as Chancellor, a move that would grant the administration substantial control over Harvard’s admissions, hiring, and curricular decisions.

Harvard’s response was swift and resolute. The university publicly rejected the administration's demands, emphasizing its commitment to academic independence. “We are putting our foot down and we are going to do whatever we need to do to protect our independence” (09:16). Harvard also released the administration’s letter to showcase the “crazy” nature of the demands, aiming to garner public support and highlight the overreach (10:03).

Legal Battle and Lawsuit

Following the public rebuff, the Trump administration retaliated by cutting significant portions of Harvard’s federal funding. In response, Harvard initiated a lawsuit against the administration, hiring prominent conservative lawyers like Robert Hur and Bill Burke to spearhead their legal defense (12:25). The legal arguments center on the unlawful withdrawal of funds without due process and violations of First Amendment rights by attempting to infringe on Harvard’s academic operations.

Mike Schmidt notes, “Legal experts are saying that they have a very valid case and could quickly win in court and get their money back” (13:03). The lawsuit represents Harvard’s fight to reclaim its financial stability and defend its autonomy.

Broader Implications and Future Challenges

While the lawsuit addresses immediate funding cuts, the broader implications for Harvard remain concerning. Future federal grants and ongoing investigations by various departments (Education, Health and Human Services, etc.) pose threats to Harvard’s research capabilities and institutional reputation. Additionally, the administration’s attempts to revoke visas for international students, who constitute a quarter of Harvard’s student body, strike at the university’s diversity and financial stability, as these students often pay full tuition (25:02).

Furthermore, Harvard faces internal challenges, including the recent resignation of Claudine Gay, Harvard’s first female Black president, amid plagiarism allegations and criticisms of the university’s handling of antisemitism. This incident has already dented Harvard’s reputation and adds to the ongoing pressures from external and internal fronts (22:04; 22:18).

Conclusion and Takeaways

The ongoing battle between Harvard and the Trump administration underscores the vulnerabilities even the most prestigious institutions face when confronted with political overreach. Mike Schmidt concludes, “We've seen a sophistication to his retribution that goes beyond certainly what I thought he was capable of” (26:37). The situation serves as a cautionary tale for other universities and organizations about the potential for entrenched political conflicts to impact institutional autonomy and financial health.

The episode highlights the resilience of Harvard in the face of adversity but also paints a picture of a long, arduous battle ahead. The outcome of the lawsuit, combined with future administrative actions, will likely shape the landscape of academic independence and federal relations for years to come.

Notable Quotes:

• Harvard Student (00:01): “We've just been watching the news, scared, and we've somehow become pawns in this political culture war.”

• Mike Schmidt (03:22): “It has been a relentless attack in a way that certainly I didn't think an administration was capable of pulling off.”

• Mike Schmidt (07:14): “The letter is not just what the administration wants Harvard to do, but it's a series of demands about how Harvard would operate.”

• Mike Schmidt (09:16): “We are putting our foot down and we are going to do whatever we need to do to protect our independence.”

• Mike Schmidt (13:03): “Legal experts are saying that they have a very valid case and could quickly win in court and get their money back.”

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