A 16-year-old boy who sometimes wore skirts and makeup to school was killed in Iowa. Then the Justice Department sent a federal hate-crimes lawyer to aid in the prosecution. The trial has become part of the national debate over gender identity. Guests: Monica Davey, The New York Times’s Chicago bureau chief; Matt Apuzzo, who covers law enforcement; Shaunda Campbell, a former counselor at Burlington High School; Tremell Jones, a friend who was with Kedarie Johnson the night he was killed. Sabrina Tavernise is our host; Michael Barbaro will return tomorrow. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.
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