The Daily – “Why Trump Voters Are Torn Over Minneapolis”

Date: February 9, 2026
Host: Michael Barbaro
Reporters: Caitlin O’Keefe, Jessica Chung
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This episode explores the fraught reaction among Trump supporters to dramatic escalations in immigration enforcement under his second term—especially after federal agents killed two American citizens in Minneapolis. Trump’s signature issues of hardline immigration policies and government restraint have come into vivid conflict, leaving many core supporters confused, conflicted, or reconsidering their backing.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why Trump Voters Initially Supported His Immigration Crackdown

• Voters interviewed: Chris Stinnett (Lexington, KY), Carter Brown (Atlanta, GA), Wilk Wilkinson (Clearwater, MN), John Palima (Bolton, MA).

• Immigration was a core motivating issue for Trump’s base, who believed the border was “broken” and not being enforced.

  • Chris Stinnett: “I remember they painted the picture that there was a large caravan.” (02:00)
  • Wilk Wilkinson: “We went from being invaded on a daily basis to borders where law and order prevailed.” (02:44)

• Many felt Trump, in his second term, finally acted forcefully and effectively:

  • John Palima: “He just used existing laws. He said, okay, borders closed.” (02:39)

2. Reality of Enforcement: Dissonance and Disturbing Consequences

• Widespread operations included agents in neighborhoods, protests, detentions, and National Guard deployment (03:11–03:40).

  • Caitlin O’Keefe: “It's still really scary to see our friends and teachers get tear gassed.” (03:40)

• Deaths of U.S. citizens during enforcement actions triggered deep anxieties among Trump voters.

  • Chris Stinnett: “They’re grabbing kids or they're grabbing US citizens, detaining them and putting them in the back of the van and not giving them reasonable suspicion...” (03:56)
  • Carter Brown: “This is wrong.” (04:07)

• The killing of Renee Goode and Alex Preddy became flashpoints.

  • Chris Stinnett: “That was an unbelievable eye opener to what was going on.” (04:40)
  • Carter Brown: “That could have been any of us.” (05:00)
  • Both say they now regret voting for Trump.

3. Feeling Betrayed by Government Power and Media Narratives

• Wilk Wilkinson initially supported the enforcement but, after reviewing shooting footage and hearing official statements, felt alarmed by what he saw as government overreach and dishonesty:
  • Wilk Wilkinson: “So immediately… it was an outright fabrication on the part of Kristi Noem…” (08:48)
  • On Second Amendment rights: “I’m a concealed carrier… Yes, he was [legally allowed]. The fact that they play so fast and loose with making statements like that when they were clearly wrong says, yes, the Second Amendment is in danger of being violated by this administration.” (10:16)
  • “Conservatives are supposed to be… suspect of government force, and the government's sole role is to protect the individual from undue force and fraud. I was definitely seeing an element of undue force…” (11:23)

4. Many Supporters Still Endorse “Stay the Course” Policies

• A significant portion of Trump voters, while disturbed by violence and death, remain steadfast or feel the measures are justified—some call for even tougher enforcement.

  • Unidentified Trump Supporter: “He's doing all the things that he promised while he was running. He's doing what I hired him to do.” (14:28)
  • John Palima: “My problem isn't with the deportations. My problem is that these so-called protesters are instigating like they want stuff like this to happen.” (14:50)

• On trade-offs:

  • Unidentified Trump Supporter: “You may not like watching how it's made.” (Barbecue analogy – 15:44)
  • “It could be ugly.” (15:51)

5. The Economic and Cultural Roots Behind Hardened Views

• Profile: John Palima, 53, Mason, Massachusetts:

  • Feels economic pressure as a working-class small business owner, blames competition from undocumented workers for declining wages and working conditions.
  • “I move mass with my body… that kind of work has been compromised by illegal immigration greatly.” (18:07)
  • “I'm competing against people who were hired because it cost less… I was getting paid less and less…” (18:35)

• Palima is sympathetic to some deaths and difficult stories but insists the deeper blame lies with years of failed border security.

  • “Why is there an ICE agent in Minnesota? There shouldn't be an ICE agent in Minnesota. We just shut the border down. The ICE agent is in Minnesota because of 40 years of illegal immigration.” (23:35)

• On the price society must pay for strict enforcement:

  • “One life should be too much. But people getting hurt here are people who are getting themselves involved in a action that is inherently risky, violent, it involves weapons, it involves human beings moving other human beings who don't want to be moved. If someone puts themselves in a situation like that, they're going to have issues. Just stay home.” (28:28)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Carter Brown (Regret):

  • “People hate that I use the word bamboozled, but that's the best way that I can describe how I feel... it was an open book test. Everything was right there.” (05:57)
  • “Don’t tread on me, or just comply. So what is it?” (06:20)

• Wilk Wilkinson (Disillusionment):

  • “I was so disappointed, because I was a huge Kristi Noem fan… they stuck to it, and then it instantly became tribalized. People went to their side, went to their silos, and started excusing things they would never, ever, ever otherwise excuse. Was the biggest heartbreak for me personally.” (08:48–09:57)

• John Palima (Economic Pain):

  • “I believe I was given the option, and excuse my French, I was given the option to eat shit or drink piss. And in all three cases, I drank piss… that’s how much passion I have for the man.” (17:30)

• Policy “Meat Grinder”:

  • “You may not like watching how it's made.” (15:44)
  • “It could be ugly.” (15:51)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:01–01:31] — Setting the stakes: Trump’s second-term crackdown & Minneapolis events.
• [01:32–04:24] — Why Trump voters backed him on immigration; initial optimism.
• [04:35–06:43] — First hints of doubt as enforcement turns lethal.
• [06:56–13:03] — Voter Wilk Wilkinson’s views: from support to skepticism, concerns about overreach.
• [13:04–15:57] — Many supporters defend the crackdown as necessary, ugly but vital.
• [16:29–24:39] — John Palima’s economic story and hardline immigration perspective.
• [24:39–30:29] — Deaths of citizens, ongoing frustration with perceived media bias, and calls for shared sacrifice.
• [28:28] — Moral calculus: Can the cost of American lives justify strict enforcement?

Tone & Atmosphere

• Wracked with conflict, many Trump voters feel real dissonance—in some, moral regret and even anger at being “bamboozled,” in others a pained, fatalistic willingness to accept harsh consequences for what they see as economic survival or national stability.
• The episode lets supporters speak in their own words—plain, sometimes gruff, but always weighted with years of lived experience and conflicting loyalties.

Conclusion

In sum:
This episode captures a movement at a crossroads: long assured by Trump’s hard line, many supporters now grapple with the costs and contradictions—between support for tough policies and fundamental American principles of due process and limited government force, between economic self-interest and empathy for neighbors, and between loyalty to Trump and discomfort with his government’s tactics. Despite fractures, the majority stay the course, accepting the mounting costs as unavoidable. For a minority, the distance between promise and practice has proven too much, upending their political faith.

Notable Closing Quote:
John Palima (on the price of change):
“One life should be too much. But people getting hurt here are people who are getting themselves involved in a action that is inherently risky... If someone puts themselves in a situation like that, they're going to have issues. Just stay home. Let the government do the job…” (28:28)

Episode highlights and timestamps make this summary an accessible, comprehensive recounting of the conversation for those who haven’t listened.