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Jon Stewart
You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central. It's America's only source for news. This is the Daily show with your host, Jon Stewart. Hey everybody, we're back. Oh, we are back for break. I drew a little picture. We are back. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Daily Show. My name is Jon Sterd. We have got a show for you tonight. I'm going to be joined later by Rupa Bhattacharya. She is the legal director of O. They know their Bhattacharyas Legal director of Georgetown Lawson Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection. I know her as the individual who took over administrating the 911 Zadroga Act Victims Compensation and Health Care Fund for 911 first responders and all the people that live down at ground zero and Pennsylvania and the Pentagon. So deep state she is deep state and I'm gonna take it to her ass. But first, today the United nations marked the third anniversary of the invasion of Ukraine by doing the only thing the United nations can passing a non binding resolution asking Russia to please stop, please take that Putin. Interesting though, among the countries voting against the resolution were North Korea, Belarus, Russia obviously and the United States of America. They're saying, Bruce, but I guess America doesn't want to set the precedent of opposing bloody land grabs. So green and landy. But hey, century being the good guys in America, you know, whatever. It's not the only thing Donald Trump is busy disrupting these days. As you know, the Doge Project, the Department of Government Efficiency headed up by the Nick Cannon of white people, Elon Musk is in, it's in full effect and it may surprise you. I for one happen to be, quite frankly, doge curious. I'm actually somewhat doge adjacent. So Mr. President, if you would. We have to solve the efficiency problem. We have to solve the fraud, waste, abuse, all the things that have gone in in the government. Yes. Now if you had woken up from a coma and heard nothing else that this man had said for the last 10 years, you might think to yourself, I like this guy. I too believe government needs to be more efficient to weed out waste, fraud and abuse and deliver the necessary services that Americans rely on more agilely. So what do we do? First, we pour through the Inspector General's reports that have addressed these things. Utilize computerishness to excise redundancies in the system, Find ways to more efficiently deliver the government assistance so many Americans rely on. What's first, Elon Musk and his Doge team firing thousands of federal Workers. They're trying to cut 10% of the.
Rupa Bhattacharya
Federal workforce, which is 200,000 jobs.
Jon Stewart
Oh. Have we determined if those are effective workers? Is it based on performance? Are you going in with the scalpels so that we don't hit any vessels and vital organs? This is the chainsaw for bureaucracy. Chainsaw. So straight amputation. We're just amputation. It's like we're treating public servants as some kind of underclass. The DC creature is like an animal infested with ticks and parasites. Our money is lining these swamp creatures pockets. You know what you call someone who sucks up resources in return for nothing? You call them a parasite. And that is what the federal workforce has become. These saboteurs, the dead enders, the DEI undercover agents, the fraudsters, liars, cheaters, globalists and deep state bureaucrats are being sent packing. Yeah, you guy who tests water for appropriate levels of fecal matter. What are we talking about? What? You know, this is a stark emotional whiplash from looking for efficiencies, but apparently our nation's civil service is now synonymous with waste, fraud and abuse. And Magaworld is celebrating with maximum folksy the gravy train. For a lot of these folks. It's been on biscuit wheels and it's about to run off the dadgum tracks. And it's about time. First of all, there is no way you actually talk like that. No way. You're a congressman from Tennessee. You didn't spring fully formed out of a primordial cracker barrel. Oh, this here bureaucracy is a Chattanooga choo choo to a crawfish boil on my flapjacks. I'm just stringing food words together like nonsense, pew, pew. Other reactions were just creepy. Doge is dishing out spankings like Daddy Daycare. I don't remember the spanking scene from Daddy Daycare. Oh, you must mean the gay porn film Daddy Daycare. I get it, Jesse. I get it. That answers the question, what would happen if a bunch of dudes in a daycare and it just stuck in your head? You know, I gotta tell you, I feel like you can make efficiency recommendations or cuts without necessarily demonizing the people who are only carrying out Congress wishes. But I feel like that they don't. Here's Donald Trump's new director of the Offices of Management and Budget on his feelings about everyone who works for him. We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected. We want when they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work. Mission accomplished. Because these workers are the worst. A hive of scum and villainy. Star wars reference for mostly scum and villainy, just not the workers, you know, Let me tell you a story about Chris. He's gonna get doged. And this guy's not a DEI consultant. This guy's not a climate consultant. I finally found one person I knew that got Doge, and it hit me in the heart. We just need to be a little bit less callous with the way Harold we talk about doging people. Do you watch your. Yes, you certainly want to be calloused, like referring to someone losing their livelihood as being a child being spanked at daycare. But I guess that's just the price of efficiency. Doge is dropping force guided bombs into the thermal exhaust port that is the death Star of our bureaucracy. I love Star Wars. I just love the film. But Doge is Jedi level shit, man. The FDA is looking to rehire around 300 people. The Trump administration will reverse staffing cuts to the 911 health fund. Hundreds of workers at the National Nuclear Security Administration fired and nearly all rehired.
Rupa Bhattacharya
Days later, the Veterans Affairs Department reinstated terminated employees. And the USDA is rescinding termination letters sent to people working on the response to bird flu.
Jon Stewart
When I said you were criminal parasites, I obviously wasn't referring to I have the bird flu. Come back to work, please. But that's fine. Staffing is only part of the Doge mission. There's other crazy shit we could cut.
Rupa Bhattacharya
We don't need to be wasting money on ridiculous items like seeing how fast shrimp can run on treadmills.
Jon Stewart
1.5 million to see the effect of yoga on goats. A million dollars to study Mexican ducks in their wetland facilities. Studies on the effect of meditation on parents. Nearly a million to study if cocaine makes Japanese quail more sexually promiscuous. I'm gonna go with yes on that last one. I feel that I, not a scientist, can very confidently state pre. Experiment. If you are a Japanese quail with an eight ball, you are getting your cloaca sucker.
Rupa Bhattacharya
Oh.
Jon Stewart
I'm sorry. Sorry. That may be the most favorite thing I've ever said on this show. No, that's. Now, obviously, that list of programs, some of them are being presented to seem even more ridiculous. And some of those were completely invented out of thin air. But the point is, why are we spending money on things that seem obviously stupid, even though a government funded study on Gila monsters is how we ended up with Ozempic, by the way, quick pitch. Weight gain also would be solved by Japanese quail. Cocaine. Really? The Star wars of drugs. Cocaine. No downsides. You'd be having your cloacas sucked in no time. All right. But even if this project of DOGE is animated by malice for administrators and is seemingly rash and occasionally cutting off critical government functions out of haste, the savings alone will be worth it. On the Doge website, they posted $16 billion saved just in canceled contracts. Interesting, if true. A closer look shows big problems. For example, Doge claimed axing a single Immigration and Customs contract saved $8 billion. Turns out that contract was worth a maximum of 8 million.
Rupa Bhattacharya
The wall Street Journal estimates the actual amount saved at not 16 billion, but closer to two and a half.
Jon Stewart
Who amongst us hasn't lied about saying something is 16 when it's really two and a half billion inches? That's not true either. See, it seems that DOGE is struggling a bit to get its footing from made UP claims about $50 million of taxpayer money going for Gazan condoms to billions in Social Security payments to dead people. A claim that turned out to not be real. Despite what you've heard. We have millions and millions of people over 100 years old because they're obviously fraudulent or incompetent. But if you take all of those millions of people off Social Security, all of a sudden we have a very powerful Social Security with people that are 80 and 70 and 90, but not 200 years old. True. You can't argue with that. If only it were happening, but it's not happening. We're not paying millions and millions of dead people Social Security money. And even if there was a 200 year old man walking around, he wouldn't need Social Security. He'd still be in Congress. Guys, I'm gonna tell you something. Cutting money shouldn't be this hard. I'm starting to think that we as a country don't understand where the real waste, fraud and abuse in our system really is. Maybe the savings we gleaned from cutting VA nurses and iguana STD studies isn't where the real money is. Let me see if I can noodle. You know what? Let me join Doge. I'm gonna see if I can noodle some ideas here. I want to get down some certain ideas I want to do again. There you go. I got that. Let's see what I can do here. This is my want to be an accountant starter kit. So I got it off of Amazon for $5,000. My accountant told me not to get it. So we're looking to save taxpayers some money and I know, let me think. We Got studies that are done. Oh, how about we just take $3 billion in subsidies we give to oil and gas companies that already turned billions in profits? How long did that take? Oh, wait. How about we just close down the carried interest loophole on hedge funds? That's $1.3 billion a year. Oh, how about we stop the $2 trillion we've given to defense contractors to build a fighter jet that when everybody knows the next war is gonna be fought with drones and blockchain, whatever that is. Holy shit. I can't believe it. I just saved us billions of dollars in 11 seconds. Just call me Big Balls. I'm sorry, I'm being told that that nickname is already taken. Well, can I get a doge nickname? Disturbingly Low Hanging Balls. Really? Oh, like you've never heard of grass. How would you even know that? Oh, I'm sorry. But see, this is where the real money is. The real money. The money our free market ish system uses to prop up corporate profit at the expense of the taxpayer. Pharmaceutical companies get everything from our government. Tax breaks, research grants, patent extensions worth billions of dollars. And what do we, the people, get for it? The highest drug prices in the western hemisphere, and for some reason, the possibility of an infection in our perineum. Why would you take a drug that would give you an infection in your perineum? And why are they telling us about it at dinner time? But you know what's so horrible about our system now? And the corruption that lay within it. We're so numb to it, we actually tout tiny cracks in that exploitation as victory. The President touting the first ever negotiations with pharmaceutical companies to lower the cost of 10 drugs. And today I'm proud to announce that Medicare has reached an agreement with all manufacturers on all 10 drugs selected in the first round of negotiation. Oh, can it be? The companies we subsidize with billions of dollars are allowing us the privilege to negotiate the price of 10 of their drugs. And 10 is all of them. Right? It would be embarrassing if it was a small drop in the bucket and that the American people didn't expect that we should negotiate for all their families because we've already paid for them with our subsidies.
Rupa Bhattacharya
You're insane.
Jon Stewart
Come on. I'll be going to the hospital. What we do with pharmaceutical companies is like the worst shark tank deal. Well, we're asking for billions of dollars of your money. Oh, what do we get? 10% of your company? No. Do we get a discount? No. What do we get? Have you checked your perineum? We live in the Upside Down. And don't blame the corporations. They are profit seeking psychopaths that need the lowest wages and the cheapest raw materials to drive their highest profits. But why do we, the taxpayers, subsidize their psychopathy? That's the waste, fraud and abuse in our system. That's it. That's what we should be going after. Not the fantastical over generous terrorist condom allowances in another program. $50 million plus another $50 million for condoms for Hamas. Do you know about that? $100 million for condoms? Condoms? Does everybody know what a condom is? You're delivering this speech in an elementary school. Why wouldn't they know what condoms are? Look, capitalism is by definition exploitative. It's how it operates. That's fine, but then government's role should be to ease the negative effects on Americans of that exploitation. Not subsidize that treachery with our money. We're getting at a diddy party and they're making us buy the baby oil. I want. Look man, I want doge to work. I want better efficiencies. I want to get rid of the Alphabet agencies that don't do enough. Make the Pentagon pass an audit. But we are doging in the wrong place if we want to really change the system. Companies like Walmart, McDonald's make billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidized profits. Yet many of their hard working employees need taxpayer subsidized public assistance. Airlines get billions in bailouts that they use in stock buybacks and bonuses. But if you're on food assistance, you're not allowed to buy hot food with it. Cause apparently heated entrees are for winners. We are subsidizing the very system that makes workers lives harder in the first place. All in the name of freedom and liberty. But the greatest restriction of freedom in this country isn't DEI and pronoun pressure. It's poverty and struggle. And the government's role. I'm not done you bastards. It's fine. The government's role should be to end the corruption that enables that exploitation. That's what the Democrats should be doing every day. Every day. Every day at 5pm sharp the Democrats should go live on Facebook and do the People's audit. Find the absurdities and the remedies in our exploitative system. Get someone like AOC or Jasmine Crockett or Chris Murphy or anybody that doesn't sound like they're complaining. Why? There's no more frozen yogurt at the cafeteria in the villages. I'm sorry, you have no Riz and we need something more than shouting. We need to do something constructive to anchor our hopes. A new acronym for a new age. It's not maga. It's something more like Make America Not Governed in obviously. Negative. Aboard. Aboard. Abort. I'm kidding. No vigilantes, but do something. When we come back, Rupa Bhattacharya will be joining us. Don't go away. Welcome to the Daily Show. My guest tonight, a distinguished lawyer, served more than 25 years in federal government, including a special master of the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund. Please welcome to the program Rupa Bhattacharya. There we go. Hello. Hi, Rupa. It is so nice to see you again.
Rupa Bhattacharya
Thank you. You too.
Jon Stewart
You and I met in 2016. You had. Just please explain. You became the. What's called the Special Master or the Special paymaster of the 911 Victims Compensation Fund.
Rupa Bhattacharya
That's right.
Jon Stewart
Through DOJ.
Rupa Bhattacharya
Through DOJ, I was appointed by Attorney General Loretta lynch at the back end of the Obama administration and then served for six years through the Trump administration and part of the Biden administration.
Jon Stewart
And your job was to take this program that had been appropriated by Congress and translate that legislation into action?
Rupa Bhattacharya
That's right. And basically my job was to make sure that those who were injured by the September 11 attacks, mostly because they were at the sites and breathing in the toxic dust, got the compensation that they deserved.
Jon Stewart
So you were. If I meant. And I don't look, and obviously I don't mean to just paraphrase or those things. Apparently you were a parasite on the system.
Rupa Bhattacharya
Yes, apparently.
Jon Stewart
What do you think when you hear that kind of talk about those in the government that are there to try and faithfully execute what the legislation has already appropriated?
Rupa Bhattacharya
Honestly, it just makes me sad. I spent my entire career in federal government until I left in 2022. And throughout all administration, across party lines and through all of it, every single person that I worked with, agencies across the government, their only goal is to administer the programs that Congress passed and that the executive branch wants administered according to its rules and its processes. That's what we do. That's our job.
Jon Stewart
And I was blown away. So you were trying to do your job, and I showed up in your office one day with a gentleman by the name of John Feel from the Feelgood foundation who had lobbied very intensely to get it done. And we just showed up and you were so gracious to us, and you showed us around the office, and I was so impressed with the way that you had approached it. With such compassion, but also a Toughness. And you had a mantra on your. And I know, I feel like an idiot because I'm sure it's like a managerial, like, hang in there poster. And you're gonna be like, yeah, it's a dumb thing that I put up, but it was a mantra. Do you remember what I'm talking about?
Rupa Bhattacharya
I do.
Jon Stewart
What did it say?
Rupa Bhattacharya
It was our guiding principles. And it was the. The way that we ran the program was we wanted to be fair to claimants, faithful to the statute and accountable to the taxpayer.
Jon Stewart
Come on. It makes me. It makes me so angry. I want to smash another mug. Oh, wow, this thing's really coming out. Sorry. You know, in the commercial break, I had a lightsaber battle with one of the crew members, and that's how I. And you did it. The program itself had very little waste, fraud and abuse because your mandate was to make sure that the people who got it, who should get it, got it, and the people who shouldn't get it, didn't get it.
Rupa Bhattacharya
That was my job.
Jon Stewart
So this week or last week, I hear they're just cutting 20% of the staffs of people. And the Victims Compensation Fund was one of those offices.
Rupa Bhattacharya
It was the World Trade Center Health Program.
Jon Stewart
The World Trade Center Health Program, which.
Rupa Bhattacharya
Is our sister program.
Jon Stewart
That's the one that administers healthcare to people.
Rupa Bhattacharya
That's the one that administers healthcare to people. So it's actually even more important because it provides these responders and survivors who worked at the World Trade center site, at the Pentagon, at Shanksville, who are now sick with the health care that they need. 85,000 people who worked at one of the sites or who lived in Manhattan have been certified with 1 or more, 9, 11 related conditions. And so the cuts that were made were indiscriminately made to cut almost 20% of the staff of the health program, which would have been devastating.
Jon Stewart
And what are. In practical terms, and you know, the people love a good conversation about administration and paperwork. In practical terms, what does that mean? Does that mean people wouldn't be able to access the program? They wouldn't be able to sign up for the program, they wouldn't be able to make their appointments, they wouldn't get their medications. What would it mean?
Rupa Bhattacharya
All of those things, Right? It means that people who are going to sign up for medical monitoring. Over 140,000 people are monitored, 10,000 people, people tried to sign up for monitoring last year. Those applications wouldn't get processed or there would be delays in processing them. There would be delays in certifying the conditions as 9, 11 related, which means that there would be delays in getting them health care and delays in getting their compensation from the vcf, which depends on those certifications. It means that additional conditions couldn't be determined as potentially eligible because the studies that would have funded that were being taken away. It means that the oversight of the program, which is largely run through contractors.
Jon Stewart
The actual people looking for fraud.
Rupa Bhattacharya
The actual people looking for fraud.
Jon Stewart
They got cut, too.
Rupa Bhattacharya
Got cut, too.
Jon Stewart
What are we doing, for God's sakes?
Rupa Bhattacharya
And then they were rehired.
Jon Stewart
And then they were rehired, what, two days later?
Rupa Bhattacharya
About a week later, thanks to the intervention of the New York congressional delegation. Shout out definitely to Representative Andrew Garbarino of Long Island.
Jon Stewart
Gaborino. Oh, by the way, for those of you in Long island, come to Gabarino's, a fantastic Italian restaurant overlooking Long Island Sound.
Rupa Bhattacharya
But Senator Schumer and Gillibrand were also instrumental on it.
Jon Stewart
Schumer and Gillibrand have been on it. Yes. And Gillibrand especially had been on it forever. And Hillary Clinton, when it first started, was an incredible advocate for it. But the reason why I wanted to talk about it is because it's a very specific program. But in the specificity of it, I think there's something universal here. There's a ton of programs out there right now that don't have Republicans in a congressional delegation, you know, trying to fight for it. And they're gone.
Rupa Bhattacharya
Yeah. If you don't. I mean, it's a sad commentary, right, that the only reason that program was saved is because there are Republicans who are willing to go to the president and ask him to reinstate it. And thankfully, and I'm grateful that he did, but not every program has that constituency. And we shouldn't live in a world where the only programs that get saved are the ones where Republicans are willing to put their stamp of approval on it.
Jon Stewart
Right. As long as it demonstrates fealty to the leadership or anything along those lines. What were. When you were administrating? What are the frustrations within government? Is it. What makes it so difficult for government to be agile? Is it. Are there too many regulations? Is there too much paperwork? Do we need a moonshot to simplify things? Because I think I would love the idea of more efficiency and a less adversarial role. It seems like any government program that's going to help people, and I know this from the PACT act, any government program that's going to help people is adversarial, that the people Become adversarial with the people trying to get the money.
Rupa Bhattacharya
So we certainly tried not to be adversarial. That was not our goal. But I think one of the things that sort of gets lost in all this conversation about efficiency is that part of the reason government is inefficient, part of the reason that bureaucracies exist is because we are trying so hard to make sure that there isn't waste, fraud and abuse in our programs. The reviews and the processes and the things that seem to take a long time that sort of hang us up are there for a reason. They're there because we want to make sure that we are being appropriate stewards of the public's money.
Jon Stewart
Right.
Rupa Bhattacharya
And that we're handling these programs responsibly. Is it too much sometimes? Maybe. But the way to solve it isn't just to go in and discriminate people out.
Jon Stewart
I wonder, let me pitch this. Is there a way, if we were to make. Because, you know, there are tons of people that qualify for food assistance who don't claim those benefits because it's difficult. There's a lot of hoops you have to jump through and all those things. If the government didn't use waste, fraud and abuse as a default, made that money simpler to get like what it was in the pandemic, and then bolstered the money on the back end searching for fraud. Because it seems like we're making the 3% or 5% of fraud, we're making the 95% pay a price for that. Is there a different way to jigger those programs, make them easier to access and bolster the fraud watchdog on the back end of.
Rupa Bhattacharya
So I'll say two things. Yes, first of all, there is. There are very, very routine and rigorous processes in place at all federal agencies to try to prevent waste, fraud and abuse. There are the inspector generals. The VCF underwent. There were inspector generals, There were the inspector generals, there's the Government Accountability Office. OMB does a budget process to make sure that money is being appropriately allocated to the right programs. And there's annual fiscal audits. So every step of the way, there is something happening to try to make sure. But those programs, all of that process only runs if you have the staff there to do it. You need staff who understands the programs, who can answer questions, who has expertise. The second thing I would say is that if you're going to eliminate efficiency inefficiencies in programs, the people you have to talk to are the people who are running the programs. That's what I did when I started at the vcf.
Jon Stewart
I mean, we find that it's a clause line. I disagree with you a little bit. Whenever I have a situation like that, I rely on teenage boys. I find them judicious and hormonally balanced and I like to let them loose in an organization and just go, how about it boys? It must be so incredibly frustrating to see that because I'm also like, like I was very frustrated at the fights that had to occur to get people who had earned benefits, benefits and I imagine that's. And to see how easily corporate interests have infiltrated our process through lobbying. You know, the tax code isn't complex because working class people made it that way. You know, the regulations aren't complex and difficult to do because small businesses want that. That's all the result of corporate lobbies because they know how to game the system. How do we stop that part from infiltrating the part that you want to do?
Rupa Bhattacharya
So that's a really good question that I wish I had an answer to. I'm not sure.
Jon Stewart
RuPaul.
Rupa Bhattacharya
I'm not sure that I do. What I do know is that we have, especially in the context of the 911 programs, the VCF, the World Trade Center Health program, we have seen over and over and over again these responders who are sick go back to the Hill over and over and over to try to keep these programs funded.
Jon Stewart
It's happening again. It's happening again this Wednesday. You know, yes, this Wednesday they're going to reintroduce some legislation to get funding.
Rupa Bhattacharya
Right. The World Trade Center Health Program is facing a crisis. It's still a few years out. And so that makes it hard for Congress to focus on it. But the fact of the matter is, is that if you don't know whether you're not, you're going to be funded a few years from now. You have to make decisions today about how many people you take into the program because you need to make the money sure that the money lasts. I had this exact same problem in 2018 when we reauthorized the VCF. I had to cut awards by 50% because we did in the middle of it. I remember that because we didn't have enough money. And it was thanks to, to you.
Jon Stewart
And thanks to all those people. They were tireless and many of them were very, very sick. The responders, to give you a sense of what that is in the middle of the VCF funding and the victims compensation, if your cancer had just been, if you had the unlucky occurrence of having a cancer diagnosed in 2021 or 2019 when the fund had lost money, you wouldn't have gotten the full benefit because they had to resource guard. But that's what's happening.
Rupa Bhattacharya
You had to research, I had to resource.
Jon Stewart
It must have been heartbreaking.
Rupa Bhattacharya
But that is exactly what is happening to the World Trade center health program right now. Right. And Dr. Howard, who was a Trump appointee, who was appointed in the last, was reappointed to his position in the last part of the Trump administration is going to have to make decisions very soon about how many people he can continue to allow into the program if they don't re up the funding. And so members of Congress, including the New York delegations, are reintroducing that bill Gaborino on Wednesday. It's already been agreed to twice and been stripped twice. Once in 2022 and once just in December. When the funding bill fell apart from.
Jon Stewart
An omnibus bill, they were going to sneak it into like a transportation bill or something along those lines.
Rupa Bhattacharya
So hopefully this time around, you know, these responders and these survivors, many of them have ptsd, many of them have very severe health conditions. To have to go up again and again and again to ask for this funding is just unconscious.
Jon Stewart
This isn't just this program. This is happening across government. And this is what we talk about when this system must be torn down. The idea that people who need the funding, that's what government exists to provide. It doesn't exist to provide a smoother road for McDonald's. It exists to provide for people. And that's got, it's got, it's got to change. And so I really appreciate you being on the show. And we're going to see, hopefully we can get that. Rupa Bhattacharya, ladies and gentlemen. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Rupa Bhattacharya
After you.
Jon Stewart
Hey, everybody. That is our show for this evening. But before we go, we're going to check in with your host for the rest of this week, Desi Lydic. Desi, nice to see you. Thank you. What are you going to be covering for the people? Well, John, I'll tell you what I won't be covering. President Trump wasting government resources to check in on the gold at Fort Knox. What a nothing burger. I mean, there is no need to investigate or count it or do an.
Rupa Bhattacharya
Inventory on Vault 84.
Jon Stewart
He's unhinged. Unhinged. Ball 84C. Why 84C? What are you, a cop? No.
Rupa Bhattacharya
Just trust that all the gold is there, John?
Jon Stewart
Every last bar. Was that the sound of a gold bar falling out of your pocket? Yes.
Rupa Bhattacharya
Yes, it was. But I brought that gold bar from home.
Jon Stewart
All right, Desi Lydic, everybody. Here it is. Is your moment of J. We are also going to Fort Knox because we want to see if the gold is still there. Wouldn't that be terrible? We open up. This Fort Knox has got. It's just solid granite that's five feet thick. The front door, you need six musclemen to open it up. I don't even think they have windows. Wouldn't that be terrible if we opened it up and there was no gold there? Explore more shows from the Daily show podcast universe by searching the Daily Show. Wherever you get your podcasts, watch the Daily show weeknights at 1110 Central on Comedy Central and stream full episodes anytime on Paramount plus Paramount Podcasts.
Summary of "Jon Stewart Challenges DOGE's Reckless Budget Cuts | Rupa Bhattacharyya"
Podcast Information
In this episode of The Daily Show: Ears Edition, host Jon Stewart delves into the controversial budget cuts proposed by Donald Trump's Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by Elon Musk. Stewart employs his signature satirical style to critique the administration's approach to reducing government waste, fraud, and abuse. Later in the show, Stewart engages in a substantive discussion with Rupa Bhattacharyya, the Legal Director of the Georgetown Law Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection, who oversees the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund.
Jon Stewart opens the episode by addressing the United Nations' third anniversary of the invasion of Ukraine. He highlights the U.N.'s non-binding resolution urging Russia to cease its actions, noting the surprising absence of support from key nations, including the United States. Stewart remarks:
"It's America's only source for news. This is the Daily Show with your host, Jon Stewart. Hey everybody, we're back... The United nations... pass a non binding resolution asking Russia to please stop, please take that Putin."
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He criticizes the U.S.'s vote against the resolution, suggesting it contradicts the nation's proclaimed stance against territorial aggression.
Transitioning to domestic issues, Stewart launches into a critical examination of DOGE's efforts to streamline government operations. He mocks the aggressive approach to cutting government employment, likening it to "straight amputation" and portraying federal workers as "parasites" and "swamp creatures."
"DOGE is dishing out spankings like Daddy Daycare... I feel like you can make efficiency recommendations or cuts without necessarily demonizing the people who are only carrying out Congress wishes."
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Stewart highlights the irony of DOGE's budget cuts by pointing out the subsequent reversals and rehiring of federal employees, emphasizing the instability and inefficacy of such drastic measures.
"On the Doge website, they posted $16 billion saved just in canceled contracts... But it turns out that contract was worth a maximum of 8 million."
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He sarcastically acknowledges the purported savings while revealing their exaggerated nature, underscoring the disconnect between DOGE's claims and reality.
Jon Stewart welcomes Rupa Bhattacharyya to the program, introducing her as a distinguished lawyer with over 25 years in federal government service, including her pivotal role in administering the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund.
"Please welcome to the program Rupa Bhattacharyya... She is deep state and I'm gonna take it to her ass."
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In the interview, Bhattacharyya provides a sobering perspective on the real-world implications of budget cuts. She explains how the reduction of staff in the World Trade Center Health Program jeopardizes the timely processing of applications, certification of conditions, and the provision of necessary healthcare and compensation to 85,000 affected individuals.
"It means that people who are going to sign up for medical monitoring... would not get processed or there would be delays in processing them."
[27:43]
She emphasizes that these cuts are not just numbers but directly affect the lives of first responders and survivors who rely on these programs for their health and well-being.
"It's actually even more important because it provides these responders and survivors who worked at the World Trade Center site... who are now sick with the health care that they need."
[27:23]
Bhattacharyya addresses the misconception that government inefficiency is solely due to wasteful practices. She explains that bureaucratic processes are essential to prevent fraud and ensure responsible stewardship of taxpayer money.
"Part of the reason government is inefficient... is because we are trying so hard to make sure that there isn't waste, fraud and abuse in our programs."
[31:10]
She advocates for maintaining rigorous oversight while addressing inefficiencies, suggesting that eliminating staff undermines the very mechanisms designed to protect public resources.
Throughout the episode, Stewart intersperses his critique with humor and satire, mocking the superficial approach of DOGE. He parodies exaggerated scenarios, such as bizarre government-funded studies on animal behavior, to highlight the absurdity of certain budget allocations.
"1.5 million to see the effect of yoga on goats... I'm gonna go with yes on that last one."
[10:44]
He also lampoons the selective nature of budget cuts, pointing out that while some programs are indiscriminately trimmed, essential services like the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund are often whittled down only to be temporarily saved through political intervention.
"We have millions and millions of people over 100 years old... We're not paying millions and millions of dead people Social Security money."
[12:28]
Stewart underscores the overarching issue of where the true waste, fraud, and abuse lie within government spending, suggesting that DOGE's focus may be misdirected.
Stewart and Bhattacharyya discuss the broader systemic problems within government efficiency efforts. Stewart criticizes the influence of corporate lobbying in shaping policies that favor large corporations over public welfare.
"Companies like Walmart, McDonald's make billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidized profits... Airlines get billions in bailouts that they use in stock buybacks and bonuses."
[35:42]
Bhattacharyya acknowledges the difficulty in combating corporate influence, admitting that there is no straightforward solution to prevent lobbying from skewing governmental priorities.
"I'm not sure that I do. What I do know is that we have... responders who are sick go back to the Hill over and over..."
[34:29]
In closing, Stewart reiterates the necessity of reevaluating where budget cuts are implemented, emphasizing that the government's primary role should be to serve and protect its citizens rather than facilitate corporate profit.
"The idea that people who need the funding, that's what government exists to provide. It doesn't exist to provide a smoother road for McDonald's."
[36:22]
He calls for a shift in focus towards ending the corruption that allows exploitation within the system, advocating for constructive reforms over blanket efficiency measures that harm essential services.
"The government's role should be to end the corruption that enables that exploitation. That's what the Democrats should be doing every day."
[36:22]
Stewart thanks Bhattacharyya for her insights, highlighting the importance of dedicated public servants in maintaining the integrity of essential government programs.
The episode concludes with a brief comedic segment featuring Desi Lydic, further satirizing governmental actions such as President Trump's inquiry into Fort Knox's gold reserves. Stewart reinforces the show's commitment to addressing pressing societal issues through a blend of humor and critical analysis.
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Key Takeaways:
This episode effectively combines satire with substantive discussions, shedding light on the complexities of government efficiency and the real-world consequences of budgetary decisions.