TDS Time Machines | New York Mayors, and Their Scandals

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Daily Show: Ears Edition

Episode: TDS Time Machines | New York Mayors, and Their Scandals
Date: November 2, 2025
Host: Jon Stewart (with contributions from Trevor Noah)
Guests: Rudy Giuliani, Michael Bloomberg, Bill de Blasio, Eric Adams

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Episode Overview

This special episode of The Daily Show: Ears Edition gathers four living former and current New York City mayors—Rudy Giuliani, Michael Bloomberg, Bill de Blasio, and Eric Adams—for a comedic yet substantive look at New York's top office, its challenges, and its recurring scandals. Through sharp humor and pointed questions, host Jon Stewart (alongside Trevor Noah) explores issues of political legacy, policing, social justice, education, and the quirks that make each mayor memorable. The mayors’ responses reflect both their tenures and their differing perspectives, revealing the evolving landscape of America’s largest city.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Giuliani Years: Campaigns, Policy, and Personal Dynamics

• On Campaigning and Political Brawls
  Stewart jokes about campaign tactics and the rough-and-tumble nature of politics (01:31). Giuliani downplays being a political hitman ("Just one of those kind, nice, gentle people. I never, you know, get involved in stuff like that." - Giuliani, 02:43), but admits to campaigning for President Bush and touts their primary successes.
• The Human Side of Politicians
  Giuliani reflects on his friendship with Vice President Cheney and laments being depicted harshly in the media:

  "Some of the ways I was depicted when I was the mayor ... I used to get ... I used to cry when I saw myself on television. I said, this can't be true." (03:59)

• Bipartisanship and Respect
  Both Stewart and Giuliani emphasize respect for political opponents:

  "Both men are good human beings." (Giuliani on Bush vs. Kerry, 05:14)
  Giuliani and Kerry’s shared battle with cancer is cited as a humanizing thread.

• Stance on Social Issues
  On same-sex marriage, Giuliani stresses following established law until legislative change (07:16).

Notable Segment:

• Election Dynamics and Political Attacks (02:10–03:00)
  • Discussion of how campaigns rely on surrogates for negative attacks.

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2. Michael Bloomberg: Taxes, Religious Freedom, and Mayoral Practicality

• Quirky Local Issues & Bagel Taxes
  Stewart and Bloomberg ridicule an “anti-Semitic” bagel-slicing tax (10:16), highlighting New York’s legislative eccentricities.
• Defending Religious Freedom (Park51 mosque incident)
  Bloomberg articulates strong support for constitutional freedoms, especially regarding the controversial mosque near Ground Zero:

  "It says you have a right to say what you want to say, which means pray to whomever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. And it's just not the government's business..." (11:38)

• Navigating Emotional Controversies
  Bloomberg shares a personal anecdote about a veteran supporting the mosque, using the story to underscore core American values (14:29).
• Campaign Authenticity & Political Courage
  When asked if reelection would alter his stances, Bloomberg insists on the importance of authenticity:

  "They want people to be genuine, even if they don't agree with them." (15:19)

Notable Quotes:

• "We would not ask that if somebody was trying to build a temple or a church, plain and simple." (15:52, on religious equality)
• "If I want to be able to say what I believe, I've got to let you say what you believe, even if I violently disagree..." (16:04)

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3. Bill de Blasio: Inequality, Progressivism, and Pizza Etiquette

• Snow Removal & Mayoral Hassles
  Stewart jokes about snow plowing inequities ("I just wish we had done a better job getting that snow up to the Upper East Side." - de Blasio, 17:35).
• Pizza-Gate
  De Blasio is ribbed for eating pizza with a knife and fork, symbolizing the scrutiny mayors endure over even trivial matters (18:36–19:59).
• Stop and Frisk
  De Blasio takes credit for ending stop-and-frisk:

  "You can't break the law to enforce the law. It's as simple as that." (20:58)

• Tackling Inequality through Tax Policy
  Advocates taxing the wealthy to support universal pre-K and after-school programs. He likens the new tax to the cost of a daily latte for upper-income earners (23:10).
• Progressivism vs. Fears of Disorder
  Pushes back on the narrative that reform means chaos:

  "Whenever you see a progressive moment... that charge is thrown that ... somehow it's going to connect with disorder. It's specious. It's not true." (25:17)

Memorable Moments:

• De Blasio demonstrating "proper" New York pizza-eating with Stewart (18:36–19:59).
• The latte-tax analogy: "The equivalent for someone who makes between a half million and a million dollars is the price of a small soy latte at Starbucks once a day." (23:10)

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4. Eric Adams: Policing, Education, and Housing in the Modern City

• Fighting Stereotypes and Promoting Screening
  Adams draws personal connections between education and incarceration:

  "30 to 40% of the prisoners that are in Rikers Island, dyslexic. So what am I doing as mayor...? We have dyslexia screening for every child now, and I'm going to Rikers and screen the prisoners..." (29:16)

• On Policing and Police Funding
  Adams emphasizes balanced reforms:

  "We can't go backwards. We can't go back to the days when every black and brown child that walked the streets was treated unfairly... We could be safe and we could have justice." (30:32, 32:40)

• Crime, Prevention, and Accountability
  He prioritizes both intervention (removing guns, dropping homicides) and prevention (reforming foster care, job training).
• Fiscal Realities & City's Future
  Addresses the tension:

  "52% of our taxes are paid by 2% of New Yorkers... If we lose those 2%, we lose our teachers, our firefighters, our cops." (39:13)

• On Housing Affordability
  Advocates for affordable housing and calls out NIMBY hypocrisy:

  "You want to upzone on my block. See, we have to stop the hypocrisy of people… when it’s time to produce it in their space, inconvenience them, now they have a whole nother conversation." (38:05)
  Explains concrete steps like reducing childcare voucher costs and streamlining tax credits.

• Self-Assessment and the 'Incomplete' Philosophy
  When asked to grade himself:

  "I'm incomplete as a mayor, I'm incomplete. As a man, I'm incomplete. As a father, I'm incomplete." (41:10)

Notable Quotes:

• "By the time a child picks up a gun, we already failed." (34:55)
• "We can't have a city where you can do whatever you want. No, we're going to be a city... We're not going to criminalize poor, but we're not going to allow someone to state that their economic status is going to allow them to disrespect what it is to live in a city like New York." (35:14)
• "This is the only country where dream is attached to our name." (42:01)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Giuliani on national politics & attacks: 01:31–03:19
• Giuliani on 9/11, Kerry, and bipartisanship: 04:35–05:55
• Gay marriage & following the law: 06:50–07:51
• Bloomberg & the “sliced bagel tax”: 10:16–11:13
• Bloomberg on Park51 mosque and American principles: 11:16–15:57
• De Blasio & pizza scandal: 18:36–19:59
• de Blasio on ending stop and frisk: 20:44–21:39
• De Blasio on progressive taxation: 23:03–23:50
• Eric Adams on education & dyslexia: 28:08–29:43
• Adams on police reform: 30:32–32:40
• Adams on affordable housing & fiscal realities: 36:37–39:13
• Adams’ self-reflection, “incomplete”: 41:04–41:17

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Memorable Quotes

• "You have a right to say what you want to say, which means pray to whomever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. And it's just not the government's business..." —Michael Bloomberg (11:38)
• "It's a simple idea... you can't break the law to enforce the law." —Bill de Blasio on ending stop & frisk (20:58)
• "By the time a child picks up a gun, we already failed. We failed already." —Eric Adams (34:55)
• "I'm incomplete as a mayor, I'm incomplete. As a man, I'm incomplete. As a father, I'm incomplete." —Eric Adams (41:10)
• "This is the only country where dream is attached to our name. That's not a German dream, a French dream." —Eric Adams (42:01)

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Tone & Takeaways

The tone is irreverent but insightful, with Stewart and Noah using comedic jabs to get candid responses. All four mayors defend their records but also acknowledge the inherent messiness, public scrutiny, and demands of running New York City. The episode spotlights enduring debates—on policing, justice, progressive taxation, and housing—but with refreshing humility and a focus on "trying to do what's right," even when imperfect.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode provides a rare roundtable of New York’s leadership—past and present—mixing laughs, confessions, and policy lessons. Whether it’s the infamous pizza fork, the bagel tax, heated debates on policing and affordable housing, or the evolving standard of what it means to serve the city, listeners get a fast-paced, honest, and funny primer on modern urban governance and the personalities steering it.

Transcript

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[Eric Adams]

You're listening to Comedy Central.

[Jon Stewart]

My guest tonight, a best selling author and the former mayor of our own New York City. Please welcome Rudolph Giuliani. Sir, come on out. Good to see you.

[Rudy Giuliani]

I'm very good, thank you.

[Eric Adams]

You looking. So this is it.

[Jon Stewart]

It's settled. It's Bush V. Carrier. Are the juices starting to flow now? Are you getting in campaign mode?

[Rudy Giuliani]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Jon Stewart]

What do you think your role will be? Do you think you'll be on the stump?

[Rudy Giuliani]

What is the stump? I'm not even sure. I hope that. That sounds like it hurts or something. It is.

[Jon Stewart]

It's a small log that politicians are the last one to jump off wins immunity.

[Rudy Giuliani]

I'll be campaigning. I think I'll be campaigning for the president. Sure. I've done it already. I've.

[Jon Stewart]

Oh, you've been to the states?

[Rudy Giuliani]

Number of places. I was in Iowa. New Hampshire. I was in when I went to Iowa.

[Jon Stewart]

Well, you're doing great because he's sweeping the primaries.

[Rudy Giuliani]

We did very well in Iowa. Very well. We did very well in Iowa. We did very well in New Hampshire. We haven't lost a primary yet.

[Jon Stewart]

Do you expect this to be, you know, people keep talking about this is going to be a rough one. This is going to be. Both sides are going to start sniffing at each other. Is this one going to be a wild one?

[Rudy Giuliani]

I'm sure they already started. I mean, it's been months and months of the whole Democratic Party primary was who can bash the president the most? I mean, it was sort of like the focus of it. So I think it's going to be. It's going to be pretty tough.

[Jon Stewart]

Yeah, right. You think when it. Because it's. When it down to one guy, it always seems like the candidate tries to avoid besmirching himself with any attacks, he has to send out the other folks. If they say to you, Mr. Giuliani, I'm afraid we're going to have to send you out to knock him down a peg.

[Rudy Giuliani]

Just one of those kind, nice, gentle people. I never, you know, get involved in stuff like that.

[Jon Stewart]

You're a sweetheart. It's lovely.

[Rudy Giuliani]

I'm so eager.

[Jon Stewart]

I have to ask you this now. There are rumors that. That you would actually make for a powerful running mate with the president right now in place of the fellow who's there now who we all know is actually a cyborg who was built. That's terrible. No, this is. You didn't know that? No. He was built in a small lab. That's the bunker. No, but they talk about. They've talked about you. Even if it's not true, it must be very flattering to be considered for this.

[Rudy Giuliani]

It actually, it isn't, because I. That's what I meant. I'm a big supporter of Vice President Cheney. He's a good friend of mine, and I'm a big supporter of this. Yes. I've known him for 25 years.

[Bill de Blasio]

Really.

[Rudy Giuliani]

He gave me the best lecture I ever got on how to be a chief of staff, so. And I think he's been a great vice president.

[Jon Stewart]

Then tell me, help me, because I.

[Rudy Giuliani]

Want to get to meet him once we get him on the show that.

[Jon Stewart]

I don't think will happen, but I want to feel his humanity. And yet I can't. You know, I hear so much about the, like, caged Duck hunt, like, these crazy stories, and then he talks, and he's always got that, well, we got to go in there and we got to get these guys. You know, is there another side to him behind the curtain that you should.

[Rudy Giuliani]

It's a side to all of us, the public side to us. I mean, it really. Some of the ways I was depicted when I was the mayor used to. I used to. I used to get. I used to cry when I saw myself on television. I said, this can't be true. No, it's not true.

[Jon Stewart]

No, I knew that wasn't true. I knew you were kidding.

[Rudy Giuliani]

Yeah, he's a very. He's a. He's very, very smart, very experienced. Helped the country get through the Persian Gulf War back in the early 90s. I mean, this is a man of tremendous experience.

[Jon Stewart]

Right.

[Rudy Giuliani]

And somebody that the.

[Jon Stewart]

You believe in this team. You truly do. I remember this is not a chore for you. This is not a party affiliation thing. You do believe in these guys.

[Rudy Giuliani]

I believed in the team before September 11, 2001. And from that day on, my admiration for how they dealt with the worst attack in the history of this country has only grown.

[Jon Stewart]

Boy, that's a tough one to make a joke with. Son of a gun. Now, when you look at, you know. Do you know Senator Kerry at all?

[Rudy Giuliani]

Not well. I do know him somewhat.

[Jon Stewart]

Okay.

[Rudy Giuliani]

Actually, we share something in common. We both had prostate cancer and had to deal with it. And I remember calling him when I found out about it and having a very, very good conversation with him. He's a.

[Jon Stewart]

He.

[Rudy Giuliani]

He's a nice man. He's a good man. And this campaign should not be based on personal attacks.

[Jon Stewart]

Okay?

[Rudy Giuliani]

Both men are good human beings.

[Jon Stewart]

So we can't lose. You're saying we can't lose decent men.

[Rudy Giuliani]

Who have totally different philosophies, and that's the way the campaign should be run.

[Jon Stewart]

That is an interesting point. I have always found that, you know, there's a lot of bashing on both sides, but I truly believe that the Bush administration, in their hearts, thinks they're doing the right thing, however obviously insane it is, and that. And that the Democrats. But I do believe that they care, that this is not, you know, people have a lot of conspiracy theories about, you know, the evil cabal that does that. I think all these guys really do believe in their hearts they're doing what's best for them.

[Rudy Giuliani]

You've got two men who love the country, otherwise they wouldn't go through this.

[Jon Stewart]

It's a bitch inning. It's terrible.

[Rudy Giuliani]

You don't go through running for president unless you have a real commitment to the country and the idea that, you know, you can do something, you can make a difference. The president has his view on how to deal with the war on terror. He's remained very committed to it. I think it's been very successful. Senator Kerry has a different view, right? What's his name? Kerry. Kerry. He has a different view.

[Jon Stewart]

Senator Kerry, he has a different.

[Rudy Giuliani]

He has a different view of how to do that. You know, President Bush.

[Jon Stewart]

Hopefully they'll keep it to those sorts of policies.

[Rudy Giuliani]

President Bush believes in lowering taxes as a way of incentivizing.

[Jon Stewart]

I see where you're going now.

[Rudy Giuliani]

Senator Kerry believes in raising your taxes.

[Jon Stewart]

All right, we're going to come back. We got more to Talk about with Rudolph Giuliani. We'll be back in a minute. We're back with Rudolph Giuliani. We're talking. Let's talk some domestic stuff. Right now. The mayor of New Paltz is conducting gay marriages and has now been, I guess, charged with a misdemeanor. Based on that, I think. What is it called? Solemnizing a wedding? Some crazy.

[Rudy Giuliani]

I did 200. I did 220 weddings when I was the mayor. Okay, about 220. Because I really enjoyed doing them. It was a way of kind of getting out of there.

[Jon Stewart]

You gotta make some money, too, you.

[Rudy Giuliani]

Know, I mean, well, it depended.

[Jon Stewart]

They gotta throw you 20.

[Rudy Giuliani]

You want the short one, the long one, the illegitimate one. You know, we could do all kinds of.

[Jon Stewart]

We could do all kinds for an extra 50. I'll do it in Hebrew. I know what goes on. What do you think about that? Responsibility? Is that tough to do?

[Rudy Giuliani]

I think you've gotta follow the law, right? Whatever your views are on gay marriage, whether you think it's right or wrong or you think civil unions are right or wrong, the law in New York is clear. Marriage is a man and a woman. And you've got to follow that. Unless you can get the state legislature to change the law and that the mayor of New Pals, that's what he should be doing. He should be organizing efforts to try to convince the state legislature, try to convince the courts. But it's no different than the principle that was established with Richard Nixon. You know, the President's not a gay, so he was.

[Jon Stewart]

That's a terrible thing to say.

[Rudy Giuliani]

Different principle.

[Jon Stewart]

That's different.

[Rudy Giuliani]

But the principle of Richard Nixon was the President's not above the law, the mayor's not above the law. You can't make the law yourself. A legislature does that. And if he feels strongly about this, and he obviously does, he should be trying to convince the New York State legislature to change the way some others have. Now, what about as they did in.

[Jon Stewart]

Massachusetts in terms of, let's say, all these white collar scandals and all those sorts of things? With you in charge, do you think you would have gone in there to the New York Stock Exchange, to the SEC and kicked a little behind?

[Rudy Giuliani]

I think the Justice Department has done what they're doing. Supposed to do. I mean, they indicted the head of WorldCom today, Mark WorldCom.

[Michael Bloomberg]

Bernie, ever.

[Rudy Giuliani]

That one is before a jury right now. I don't want to say anything about that. One of the things that used to annoy me when I was a trial lawyer were all the comments about A case, you know, by people who knew nothing about it. But the WorldCom case is now an indictment.

[Jon Stewart]

So I'm shocked that you turn on these 24 news channels and they're literally like Court TV now. You can't. You know, they're talking about Kobe and Martha and things.

[Rudy Giuliani]

Trials are inherently dramatic. I mean, people think of all the great courtroom drama that's been on Broadway, in the movies for years. So now it's kind of translated itself into live television. But this is something people have been interested in, right?

[Jon Stewart]

I always thought art imitated life, not the other way around. But I guess, I guess the news organizations have put that on its head.

[Rudy Giuliani]

I love being a trial lawyer. There probably was no more pure drama than waiting for a jury.

[Jon Stewart]

You ever think you get back in? You ever think you come back to politics?

[Rudy Giuliani]

I'd like to. Speaking about the first part, I would like to maybe try one more case or argue one more appeal or can.

[Jon Stewart]

I tell you something that I'm going to do for you because I like you. I am going to commit a crime and I'm going to have you do it because you're my man. Rudolph Giuliani. Please welcome back to the program Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Nice to see you.

[Michael Bloomberg]

And you. Thank you for having me.

[Jon Stewart]

We're honored. As a matter of fact. You know, I don't, I don't get a lot of sitting dignitaries. If you don't mind. I just wanted to get just a quick autograph. If you could just. Right on the line there, it'd be great. I really appreciate that. That's terrific. That's terrific. That'll be great. Don't worry about putting my name on it.

[Eric Adams]

Okay.

[Jon Stewart]

Just get that right there. Thank you. All right. You want to look at it?

[Michael Bloomberg]

Do you see what name I put on it?

[Jon Stewart]

What'd you put on there? John Stewart Bloomberg. I thought I had you on that one. Dammit.

[Michael Bloomberg]

What else did you want?

[Jon Stewart]

Nothing. I want to wade in. Let's wade in immediately on what is obviously an emotional supercharged issue that everyone in the city is talking about, this sliced bagel tax. Apparently New York state has passed an 8 cent tax. If you get a bagel regular with a schmear. With a schmear, but if you get it sliced, they add 9 cents. 8 cents. 9 cents.

[Bill de Blasio]

That's good.

[Rudy Giuliani]

How can that be?

[Jon Stewart]

How can you add to slice a bagel?

[Michael Bloomberg]

It's our state legislature. They can do anything. This is not the craziest thing they've.

[Jon Stewart]

Done, but this is clearly a anti Semitic. There's no argument about that. Who loves bagels more than us? And B, penalizing in a terrible way downstate New York, upstate New York bagels. They think, what, Hollywood?

[Michael Bloomberg]

You probably can't even get a bagel upstate.

[Jon Stewart]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Michael Bloomberg]

That's why they didn't tax them upstate. They only taxed them down here.

[Jon Stewart]

Can you fight? Can you?

[Eric Adams]

Should we?

[Michael Bloomberg]

This is one of the causes I'm gonna work on for the next three and a half years.

[Jon Stewart]

Is that true?

[Michael Bloomberg]

Yeah, it's one of the big things I'm taking on.

[Jon Stewart]

It's tyranny. I tell you it is. How are you handling this? Obviously, the mosque, the Islamic community center in downtown Manhattan has caused an awful lot of. For. Fuffle, for lack of a better word. You have spoken out very eloquently in favor of people being able to do what they're able to do on private property. Is that your feeling?

[Michael Bloomberg]

When I went to school, we studied the Constitution. It says you have a right to say what you want to say, which means pray to whomever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. And it's just not the government's business to tell you what to say. You went on and on about Glenn Beck. He has a right to say anything he wants. That's what's great about America. And people say, well, in Saudi Arabia, can't build a church. Yes, that's the difference between Saudi Arabia and America. And it's plain and simple that whether you like a mosque or don't like a mosque, you don't have to go. There's already another mosque down there within four blocks of the World Trade Center. There's porno places, there's fast food places. I mean, it's a vibrant community. It's New York.

[Jon Stewart]

Why. Why did you have to look at me when you said porno places? Why did you. You know, you're going through. It was a very. I thought it was a very eloquent defense. And then suddenly you looked up like.

[Michael Bloomberg]

Right, Well, I just wanted to make it relevant to you.

[Jon Stewart]

Cause I was thinking. And again, I don't know if you're gonna support this or not. I would like to build a synagogue, reform in St. Patrick's Cathedral.

[Michael Bloomberg]

I think if you talk to the Archbishop, he might be amenable to that. He said that he wants to bring people together. He wants to find another place for the mosque. All right, maybe he'd find another place for your temple.

[Jon Stewart]

Did this take you now, the sensitivities about that site? Everyone knows you Know, the emotions run so hot. The families of victims, the people that were traumatized throughout it, everyone in New York, people in the country. How do you bridge that emotional gap by how do you be sensitive to people who feel that site is protected and yet still abide by.

[Michael Bloomberg]

Well, number one, New York Times wrote about this mosque a year ago. Laura Ingraham did a show about it or mentioned it on one of her shows and said she was in favor of it. This mosque has been operating for over a year. There's nothing new here. The difference is we're in election season and this whole issue, I think, will go away right after the next election. This is plain and simple, people trying to stir up things to get publicity and trying to polarize people so that they can get some votes. And I don't think that most of these people who are yelling and screaming really care one way or another. The family members, they do care. And the family members that I've talked to, and I'm chairman of the board of the World Trade center memorial, 100% in favor of saying these people, if they want to build a mosque, can build a mosque. The lives of our loved ones were taken because the right to build a mosque or to say what you want to say was so threatening to people. My girlfriend and I were having dinner last week and this guy comes up to me, want to talk to you. Big hulking guy. I think, okay, I don't need this comparatively. Right, yeah.

[Jon Stewart]

All right. So you're saying like he's like five, nine. Yeah, yeah.

[Michael Bloomberg]

And he said, you know, I want to talk to you about the mosque. And I'm thinking, you know, it's gonna ruin my hamburger. I got hamburger and a pickle and a potato chip or something. And he said, let me just tell you, I just got back from two tours fighting overseas for America. This is what we were all fighting for. You go and keep. Keep at it. And that's, I think, a real answer.

[Jon Stewart]

That's impressive. I mean, unfortunately, I think. I think the difficulty always is unfortunately. I'm sure there are veterans who fought over there who feel we shouldn't. I'm sure there are family members, maybe you haven't heard from them, who feel we shouldn't. Absolutely. It's very. Unfortunately, you have to divorce emotion from principle to some extent. And that can't always be an easy job for an elected official. If you.

[Michael Bloomberg]

Oh, I think it's very easy.

[Jon Stewart]

If you were running for reelection, would you feel that you were in a different position or would have to take a Different position.

[Michael Bloomberg]

I think I could speak out even more if I were running for reelection, because I think the public wants people that. What they want people to say, candidates to do is say what they believe. They want people to be genuine, even if they don't agree with them. And I think, you know, saying one thing today and a different thing tomorrow is not exactly a great ways to build a career and certainly not good government.

[Jon Stewart]

Yeah, it's. It's the way right now when they're fanning the flames of the fear right now. It was first about the sensitivity of the spot. Now it's moved to where's the financing coming from? Who are the people behind this operation? Has that been a concern?

[Michael Bloomberg]

We would not ask that if somebody was trying to build a temple or a church, plain and simple.

[Jon Stewart]

You don't want to, but illegality is illegality. If it's people on a terrorist list.

[Michael Bloomberg]

They'Re on a terrorist, plain and simple.

[Jon Stewart]

Whatever it is, whether they want to build a mosque or a video arcade.

[Michael Bloomberg]

Look, there are a lot of people who've said things that I don't agree with. But if I want to be able to say what I believe, I've got to let you say what you believe, even if I violently disagree with it and even if I find it despicable. I thought the New York again.

[Jon Stewart]

I thought you looked at me, which I thought was interesting.

[Michael Bloomberg]

Well, most of your stuff's fine. You know, I mean, your writers are good. Anyways, I've always questioned. I've questioned the delivery, but other than.

[Jon Stewart]

I understand. So it's a little sticky as it goes along. What are you going to do for that?

[Michael Bloomberg]

Look, I mean, you got this audience. Buffalo. I mean.

[Jon Stewart]

Well, listen, I appreciate you doing it, and I'm looking forward to, you know, we're having a dinner for your foundation coming up.

[Michael Bloomberg]

Good.

[Jon Stewart]

And you didn't know that.

[Michael Bloomberg]

I did not know that. I did not.

[Jon Stewart]

You're the chairman of the dinner.

[Michael Bloomberg]

Well, yes. You're doing this for us.

[Jon Stewart]

I know. Thank you.

[Michael Bloomberg]

I want you to know something. You know how much I know about this.

[Jon Stewart]

Where's your scheduler?

[Michael Bloomberg]

Wait. Time out. You are so popular. It's been sold out.

[Jon Stewart]

Is that true?

[Michael Bloomberg]

Yeah, absolutely. We don't have any more tables, which means we underpriced them.

[Jon Stewart]

Underpriced them? No, we're going to raise a lot of money that night. It's going to be great. Sir, thank you so much for coming by. Really appreciate the partnership.

[Michael Bloomberg]

Thanks for standing up for what's right.

[Jon Stewart]

Thank you, sir. Mayor Michael Bloomberg, everybody. My guest tonight, he is New York City's 109th mayor. Please welcome to the program. Mayor Bill de Blasio. Sir, hello. Nice to see you. How are you?

[Bill de Blasio]

I'm feeling good. I just wish we had done a better job getting that snow up to the Upper east side.

[Jon Stewart]

I know you'll get it up there. You know, this is since you've been mayor, it has snowed, what, three times?

[Bill de Blasio]

Three times, yeah.

[Jon Stewart]

I remember Bloomberg. 12 years, never snowed once. What? What?

[Bill de Blasio]

I think he paid the right guy.

[Jon Stewart]

That's what I'm. This is what I'm talking about.

[Bill de Blasio]

He had the money.

[Jon Stewart]

Has it been overwhelming?

[Bill de Blasio]

It's non stop. It's 24 7. It's the ultimate 247 job, right? But I love this place. I really love this place. And it's. It's endlessly fascinating to me, but I'd like the snow to end. Yes, I've done the snow experience. I'd like to try something else now.

[Jon Stewart]

Here's the thing. So you've got. There's a lot of issues that I want to get today. We've got, you know, stop and frisk. You're going to be stopping that. We've got pre K education, tax policy, we've got the stables situation. But there's one thing in particular that is, I think many New Yorkers are talking about and it's in many ways egregious. But let's take a look. Bill de Blasio is caught on camera.

[Trevor Noah]

This week eating pizza with a knife and fork.

[Jon Stewart]

Now, Bloomberg, as you know, used to have his food chewed and then put back into his mouth like a baby bird. But this is unacceptable, sir. So may I? This is from. It's called John's Pizzeria. This is. This is. It's called a. It's a sausage and mushroom from John's.

[Bill de Blasio]

Beautiful.

[Jon Stewart]

John's is one of the greatest pizza places in the history of pizza. I thought maybe you and I could break bread, we could share a slice. Would you like a slice?

[Bill de Blasio]

I would love a slice.

[Jon Stewart]

With your hand. What are you doing?

[Michael Bloomberg]

Okay.

[Trevor Noah]

Thank you.

[Bill de Blasio]

John.

[Jon Stewart]

John, I gotta teach you everything I wanna say.

[Bill de Blasio]

John, as mayor of Napoli, I mean, New York City.

[Jon Stewart]

Yes, we.

[Bill de Blasio]

We are always ready for our pizza.

[Jon Stewart]

Oh, my God. Don't even. Come on, come on. Wait, talk to me.

[Bill de Blasio]

There's another way.

[Jon Stewart]

Oh, let me show you something.

[Bill de Blasio]

Let me watch some.

[Jon Stewart]

How are you showing. Oh, that's a beautiful slice of pizza. Hey, Bloomberg's gone, right?

[Bill de Blasio]

Wait, can you. That technique.

[Jon Stewart]

Hold on. You have A donut. Have a donut. Well, you should have a big oat. I put a big oak down there for you. Once you get it out, there's a.

[Bill de Blasio]

Big hole down here.

[Jon Stewart]

Yeah. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Wow. Oh, you are gigantic. Wow. Look at that in his hands. It looks like a regular soda. Cheers. We'll be back with more of Amer de Blasio Rail today. Welcome back. We're here with Mayor Bell de Blasio. So now let's talk. So let's talk about the one stop and frisk.

[Bill de Blasio]

Yep.

[Jon Stewart]

There was a challenge. It was ruled unconstitutional. New York City had proffered a challenge to that. You have ended that.

[Bill de Blasio]

I have.

[Jon Stewart]

There will be no stop and frisk.

[Bill de Blasio]

We've come to a settlement.

[Jon Stewart]

What is the settlement?

[Bill de Blasio]

Look, what I've said was, you cannot. It's a simple idea. And our new police commissioner, Bill Bratton, who's fantastic, says is you can't break the law to enforce the law. It's as simple as that.

[Jon Stewart]

All right, fair enough.

[Bill de Blasio]

And what we had, what we had for years, was young men of color. Overwhelmingly, they were the ones singled out, treated as suspects, even if they hadn't done anything wrong. Stop and frisk. In its heyday, we had almost 700,000 stops in a single year. Almost 90% of them were innocent people in every way, shape or form. No summons, no charge, nothing. That's not how you proceed in a democratic society. I argue that public safety and civil liberties have to march hand in hand.

[Jon Stewart]

How frightened are people when you walk in? Because they must think, now you're coming in there and turning everything upside down. The uncertainty must be palpable at City Hall.

[Bill de Blasio]

I don't wear the Che Guevara T shirt when I work.

[Jon Stewart]

All right, I think that's wise.

[Bill de Blasio]

I've thought about that. No, look, I'm blessed to have had a very strong mandate from the people to make some real progressive change. And throughout the last year, I talked about the tale of two cities we were living. This was all about acknowledging the inequalities that have become very fundamental and unfortunately growing in our city and going at them. Whether it's the inequality of how policing was done or inequality in terms of income or inequality in terms of education, the people of the city are ready to actually take that on head on. And so, yes, there are some bureaucrats and others who are hesitant, but I know the popular support is there.

[Jon Stewart]

How do you explain that to people who have enjoyed a more absolute position in the city? Somewhat unassailable, that that is fairness and justice and not persecution. You know, how do you convince them that the loss of a more absolute power is not persecution?

[Bill de Blasio]

This comes up, for example, with our plan to tax the wealthy for pre K and after school. I said anyone who makes a half million or more pays a little bit more in their city taxes. What does it allow us to do? Full day pre K for every child in the city after school for every middle school student for free. Guaranteed would be transcendent in terms of our school system. Would totally allow us to prepare our kids properly. And you know, our.

[Jon Stewart]

And you and Cuomo are finding a little about it. He says, I'll pay for it from the state. You say I'll pay for it from the city. Why can't we go 50, 50 on this bad boy?

[Bill de Blasio]

You know, I like the way you think, but you know, because we need to know the money's going to be there year after year. And the only way we're going to get that is if we have a tax that we control here in the city. And if we tax those who make a half million or more, they can handle it. The equivalent for someone who makes between a half million and a million dollars is the price of a small soy latte at Starbucks once a day.

[Jon Stewart]

Let me ask you a question. Can I. If I cuz I this is. I'm going to end up paying a little bit more. Can I go to the prek and and be like, you're mine and so you better get those grades up because I'm on your ass.

[Bill de Blasio]

We're going to create a program for you.

[Jon Stewart]

Thank you.

[Eric Adams]

I appreciate that.

[Bill de Blasio]

Do that. I think you deserve that. Right.

[Jon Stewart]

So you. The 5050 thing. No fly though.

[Bill de Blasio]

I think we need more reliable money. But let me tell you from the state. Well, the state hasn't offered a specific dollar figure. They certainly haven't offered the five years we need. This is a five year, $2.6 billion plan to make sure that every child gets a strong start.

[Jon Stewart]

Couldn't Bloomberg just chuck that in as on his way out? Just I would throw it into a pot.

[Bill de Blasio]

It could have been a gratuity.

[Jon Stewart]

That's what I'm talking about. Except, hey, thanks for having me as mayor. Nice job.

[Bill de Blasio]

It's something for you.

[Jon Stewart]

Right?

[Bill de Blasio]

But, but here's the thing. When I go and talk to wealthier folks and say, we want you to pay a little more so we can do this, some people get upset. Some people say, are you trying to punish success? I say, we're not trying to punish success. We're trying to create more success stories. We're trying to get more kids.

[Jon Stewart]

Oh, I understand. A chance to get the people that have done very well in this city have done well in this city because of the opportunity that this city and its infrastructure have offered us. And I think it is the least we can do to, as they say, pay it forward. And if that is a, you know, you're not. This is not. You have to give us 95% of your money. This is, I think, a reasonable way of looking at it. That being said, the fear is we return to a different time in New York when it was less orderly and things were more chaotic. And how do you tell people that that is not the case, that this is going to be changed, but done in a manner that is much more reasonably prescribed?

[Bill de Blasio]

Whenever you see a progressive moment, whenever you see progressive leaders come into office, that charge is thrown in one way or another that we're going to have a more compassionate society. Somehow it's going to connect with disorder. It's specious. It's not true. And the bottom line is we know the great threat to this country is inequality. The great threat to this city is inequality. We have rampant, growing inequality. It's going to be unsustainable for the long term. People need a core hope in our society, in democratic society. They can actually get somewhere. They need a core amount of visible opportunity, and that's been slipping away. So if you want to talk about destabilizing realities in our society, talk about inequality. But progressives can run governments effectively. Progressives can be fiscally responsible. Progressives can focus on public safety. But we're going to do it in a way that respects people's rights.

[Jon Stewart]

I'll have you back in three years. We'll talk about it. Mayor Bill de Blasio, thank you very much.

[Trevor Noah]

My guest tonight is the mayor of New York City. He's joining me to discuss his first six months in office and how he's tackling some of the city's most pressing issues. Please welcome Mayor Eric Adams. Welcome to the show.

[Eric Adams]

You don't realize it, but you just assaulted me with that handshake.

[Trevor Noah]

I'll try and be a little more gentle next time.

[Eric Adams]

Please, please.

[Trevor Noah]

I'll try and be a little more gentle. Welcome to the show.

[Eric Adams]

Thank you. Cause, you know, you doing that, you could be inside for 24 hours.

[Trevor Noah]

You know, let's talk about that before we move on. Like, I heard what you said about Rudy Giuliani. You said that he should actually be investigated for reporting a False crime. Because if it wasn't for that video footage, that person who tapped him on the back, which, again, I don't condone. But that wasn't assault.

[Eric Adams]

No, it was not. He falsely reported a crime, and the district attorney should take that seriously. That person that he falsely reported spent 24 hours in jail. That's not acceptable. Hmm. It's not acceptable. And so I'm going to call the D.A. we must be consistent. All of that theatrics that he did, that's not acceptable. If that tape wasn't there, imagine what would have happened to that man. Yeah.

[Jon Stewart]

Yeah.

[Eric Adams]

Can't happen.

[Trevor Noah]

Can't happen. Many New Yorkers have really been impressed by your. The attitude. You've taken to education. You know, you've come in, you've revamped the system.

[Jon Stewart]

You, you, you, you.

[Trevor Noah]

You're creating a world where, you know, your, your, your staff is really focusing on getting New York City's education up to where it needs to be. Two parts to the question. Number one, what do you still think needs to be achieved in terms of education in New York? And number two, how do you. How do you remove or fight against all of the segregation that happens in New York City schools? Because you have a city where everyone mixes, and yet in the schools, it seems like the city is still in Jim Crow.

[Eric Adams]

You know? You know, a couple of things. Number one, I learned a lot when I was in South Africa. I drove from Cape Town to Port Elizabeth to Joburg, and I spoke to a lot of people there. When people talk about segregation, they don't look at the hidden segregation we have in America.

[Jon Stewart]

Right.

[Eric Adams]

Our school system is dysfunctional, and we have acknowledged that dysfunctionality because black and brown and poorer students are the impact of that. 65% of black and brown children never reach proficiency in our New York City school system. And we've normalized that. And so what I did, I looked at my journey. I was dyslexic. I'm dyslexic From K through 12. I used to walk in the school building. They used to put dumb suited on the chair. I was bullied. And not until I got into high school did I discover I was dyslexic. There was nothing wrong with me. Wow. 30 to 40% of the prisoners that are in Rikers island, dyslexic. So what am I doing as mayor? I'm taking my journey and now helping other children. We have dyslexia screening for every child now, and I'm going to Rikers and screen the prisoners for Dyslexia, so they can get the services they need.

[Trevor Noah]

I'm gonna chat you a little bit more off after the break. We're gonna be chatting about police. We're gonna be chatting about rents in the city, and we'll be chatting about why some people think you're the quirkiest, most interesting mayor in America.

[Michael Bloomberg]

Don't go away.

[Trevor Noah]

We'll be right back with more from Mayor Adams. Welcome back to the Daily show, where we are joined by New York City Mayor Eric Adams. Um, Mayor Adams, let's jump into two of some of the most pressing issues in the city. Number one, police, which touches on crime, but, you know, it's almost two separate issues at the same time. One of the things you ran on coming into office was, I'm going to bring down crime in New York City. Uh, since you've come into office, crime has skyrocketed. You know, it's only been five, six months. But I'm sure many people would love to know from your perspective, how long do you think that promise will take to achieve and, and how do you actually bring crime down? Because every mayor has a different solution for actually achieving that.

[Eric Adams]

Well, it's, it's, it's a unique moment. You know, people that know my history. I was arrested at 15. I was beat badly by police officers. They assaulted my brother and I in the 103rd Precinct. I returned back to that precinct when I became the mayor. I fought against the abuse of stop and frisk. I've testified in federal court, and the judge mentioned my testimony when she ruled against the police department. I can't go backwards. We can't go back to the days when every black and brown child that walked the streets was treated unfairly. And so we have to have that balance. I like to say intervention and prevention. Intervention is right now. We took 3,000 guns off our street. Shooters dropped by 30%. Homicide dropped by 13%. We're moving in the right way, but I'm not going to allow us to be abusive in the process. Prevention. Let's do the long term things. Let's lean into foster care children so they have the opportunities and not age out without the support.

[Trevor Noah]

Let me ask you this, then, about New York. This city has always, has always been in an interesting place where the police unions and the mayors have often had a fraught relationship. You're a really unique mayor in that you were police, you come from police, and yet you've experienced police and you've tried to change police. And yet at the same time, you go, you have to encourage the police. So obviously you have critics and fans that inhabit both spaces. But I'd love to know this because I know a lot of New Yorkers have this as a question. When crime is down in the city, mayors will say, well, that means the police are doing their job. We need to give them more money, more funding to the police force, which oftentimes means less funding for the schools, the other services, et cetera, et cetera. But then when crime is up in the city, mayors will say, oh, that means we need to give the police more money because they need more help bringing the crime down. So what I'd like to understand is why is it that in that job, whether things are going well or not going well, the money always increases. It doesn't seem like it matches what's happening in the city. And how do you address that as mayor, whilst also acknowledging these are people, these are people in the city trying to keep everybody safe, et cetera. From a mayor's perspective, I understand it. How do you find that balance?

[Eric Adams]

Good question. Well, first of all, the prerequisite to prosperity is public safety and justice. They go together. Historically, people will say, you can only have justice, you can only have public safety. And I say no to that. It's not a trade off. We could have both. We could be safe and we could have justice. Justice. That accountability is going to be in place. But let's not kid ourselves. We have been producing an inferior product all across the city. We spend $38 billion a year on education. Yes, 65% of black and brown children never reach education. They've been playing us. We've been getting played for so long. So the problem is not that people dislike me. They say, you know who dislike me? People who have been eaten off of us. All of those people who make contracts from pulling people downstream. You know how much money is made when the child is dyslexic and not educated and he's incarcerated? You have counselors, you have therapists, you know, you have people who feed them prescription and drugs. People have been playing us, brother, for a long time. And now I come along and say, listen, the game, the gig is up.

[Trevor Noah]

So just in case I missed it, though, I don't think I did. But how do you then grade whether the police are doing well or not in your city?

[Eric Adams]

Combination? Cause it's not. You can't. We'll never be able to deal with this crime problem with just police, okay? We can't police our way out of this. When you have foster care children at age out of 21 and you know, every year, 6700 of them are. Only 5% graduate from high school. Only 22% graduate. I mean, 22% graduate from high school, 5% from college. They're more likely to be homeless, mental health, unemployed, victims of crime, participate in crime. So what I'm saying, no, let's let them get Support until they're 26. 90% graduate from high school. Let's open up our trade schools like I did at the Brooklyn Steam center and give these children certifications, let them go into some of these jobs. Google is here, Facebook is here. Why not have these children fed right into employment, be part of the growth of this city. So if you employ, then you won't have to worry about the criminality that you're seeing. By the time a child picks up a gun, we already failed. We failed already.

[Trevor Noah]

So then, but then why do you care so much about some of the smaller things? You know, like for instance, why does the city need to spend so much money on police monitoring who jumps a fence and who doesn't? Like, what is the percentage of money that a city's losing on fair jumping?

[Eric Adams]

I like that, I like that. Do people really need to go to.

[Trevor Noah]

Jail for like, come on, people are gonna pay. And the people who don't pay, like, what is that percentage versus everyone else?

[Eric Adams]

That's a great question. Here's what we can't do. We cannot send a message that any and everything goes in our city because it starts with, okay, so, or someone jumps the fed. And when there are systems, we have a reduced fare MetroCard program where if you can't pay enough, we're going to give you the MetroCard. And there's ways to get on the system if you can't pay. So you can't walk into Duane Reade and say, you know what? I'm going to take whatever I want off the shelf and I'm going to walk out. Because now Duane Reade is going to close down and that low wage employee who's going to school at night to try to make a living is going to lose his job because you decided you don't want to pay. So we can't have a city where you can do whatever you want. No, we're going to be a city. We're not going to criminalize poor, but we're not going to allow someone to state that their economic status is going to allow them to disrespect what it is to live in a city like New York. I know what it is to be poor, brother. We used to go to school every day with a garbage bag full of clothing because mommy said we're going to be thrown out. And we want you to have clean clothing so you won't be embarrassed when you go to school. But mommy made sure we're gonna always uplift ourselves, fight hard, and we're gonna be respectful in the process. I'm not going to allow people to believe because of where they are, is who they are. We're so much better.

[Trevor Noah]

So let's talk about one of the parts of the city that everyone agrees needs to become better, and that is affordability.

[Eric Adams]

Yes.

[Trevor Noah]

As you said, New York City is not made by the Empire State Building. It's not made by the Statue of Liberty. It's made by the people. Yes, the people feel like they can't remain in New York because they can't afford to live here. And you're seeing this spread, it's going out to Brooklyn, it's spreading into Harlem. Many part, I mean, the main part of the island is almost unaffordable for most people. For people who don't live in rent controlled apartments where there's no recourse. I've heard people's rents jump by 20%, 30%, 40%. It can just do whatever and you're out, your life is cheap. It becomes unaffordable. Half the places in midtown are owned by people who don't even live in the city, nevermind the country. What do you do as mayor to prevent that from happening? How do you make it so that the people actually want to live in the city? Cause I've seen you say, by the way, people need to come back to the office. I've seen you say, we need to get back in office. People need to get, you know, the New York City back to life. And I understand why. But I can also see why people say, well, Mayor Adams, why should I come back to the city when I can go and live, you know, 40 minutes away, 50 minutes away in Connecticut on a train and not have to pay these rents anymore? How do you prevent these people from turning this into a ghost town? What are you doing?

[Eric Adams]

What I must do as the mayor is now create affordable housing, which we're doing, which is very interesting. You have some of the people who are advocating for affordable housing and I say, okay, great, we're gonna build it on your block. Whoa, not on my block.

[Bill de Blasio]

Right, right.

[Eric Adams]

You know you want to upzone on my block. See, we have to stop the hypocrisy of People, those who are advocating for something, but when it's time to produce it in their space, inconvenience them. Now they have a whole nother conversation. We want to build Safe Haven beds. Show me the community that's going to allow me to build the Safe Haven beds to give wraparound services. So we must get in the business of affordable housing. But once we build it, we have to put people in the units. We're going to changed the game of nycha, which, you know, what NYCHA residents have been going through for years. And now we're moving in another direction. So the affordability is crucial, making it affordable.

[Trevor Noah]

Do you think you can find the balance? Because as a mayor, you're always responding to business. Some of the richest people in the city, you know, you're responding to the people who are annoyed by poor people. As you said, the NIMBYs. Not in my backyard.

[Michael Bloomberg]

Right.

[Trevor Noah]

They want change, but not in their backyard. And you're responding to the majority of the 8 million people.

[Eric Adams]

Yes.

[Trevor Noah]

What do you think you're gonna be able to do in the, in the short term? I understand the ideas behind it, but what's a concrete thing you can say to New Yorkers where you go like, hey, this is what I'm actually going to do for you in the short term.

[Eric Adams]

Right. And we're doing that right now. First of all, the affluent New Yorkers, do you know 52% of our taxes are paid by 2% of New Yorkers?

[Trevor Noah]

I can believe that if we lose.

[Eric Adams]

Those 2%, we lose our teachers, our firefighters, our cops. So for me not to engage those high income earners, that's foolish as a mayor and I'm not going to do that. I want them to pay their taxes, I want them to volunteer, I want them to contribute to my museums, to my nonprofits. They need to be a part of that. And so when you look at what we're doing right right away, childcare vouchers for families in this city, you know, people are paying $50 a week. We were able to get them down to $10 a week. We open so many new seats in childcare. What we're doing with dyslexia screening, what we're doing with college fund for our children. When you start out a college fund for a child, they're four times more likely to go to college by having that child care, this college fund. When you look at what we're doing, what's called the crisis management team and how they deal on crisis on the ground for prevention, what we're doing with earned income tax credit, Brother, we send back billions of dollars because people don't know how to fill out the forms to get the resources that they deserve. So we're making that easier and streamlining the earned income tax credit. So we're doing things that have going to put money back in the pockets of New Yorkers.

[Trevor Noah]

So before I let you go, I'd love to know real quick, what would you grade yourself as as a mayor right now? What grade would you give yourself? And. And I know it's a tough one.

[Eric Adams]

I told you when we spoke earlier, there's no tough questions for me. Cause I'm walking to you. I'm gonna be me.

[Trevor Noah]

You are you, definitely. I'll say that about you. What would you grade yourself as as a mayor?

[Eric Adams]

I'm incomplete. I'm incomplete.

[Trevor Noah]

Oh, interesting. That's an interesting one.

[Eric Adams]

Incomplete.

[Michael Bloomberg]

All right.

[Eric Adams]

I'm incomplete as a mayor, I'm incomplete. As a man, I'm incomplete. As a father, I'm incomplete. Complete. In my personal life. I get up every morning, I meditate, I exercise, I pray, I say the Pledge of allegiance, and I get myself ready every day. Every day. Every day.

[Trevor Noah]

I mean, that. The last one's a bit weird, you.

[Eric Adams]

Have to admit, but it's not. It's not.

[Trevor Noah]

When you think, I mean, surely the flag knows by now that you.

[Michael Bloomberg]

I mean.

[Eric Adams]

Yeah, well, you know, we. You know, this country. This country has a lot of issues.

[Trevor Noah]

Yes, it does.

[Eric Adams]

But I've been all over the globe, and this is the only country where dream is attached to our name. That's not a German dream, a French dream.

[Trevor Noah]

Well, the French dream is. But it's a very different kind of dream. Yeah. Thank you so much for joining me. I appreciate the time. I know you're a busy man. Explore more shows from the Daily show podcast universe by searching the Daily Show. Wherever you get your podcasts, watch the Daily show weeknights at 1110 Central on Comedy Central and stream full episodes anytime on Paramount.

[Bill de Blasio]

Plus.

[Eric Adams]

This has been a Comedy Central podcast.