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Dr. Mike
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What do you think about New Year's resolutions? Because when I think, when people are thinking about change, they're like, I want to be a different person in 2025, or I want to be a better person. I want to be closer to the person I know I'm capable of being. How do you think about resolutions? Because the reality is a lot of people have that sensation, that feeling, that desire, and then most resolutions go nowhere and people spend another year as exactly the same person.
Dr. Mike
I mean, I spent a long time thinking about this because why is it that DEP. Which research study you read 80 to 90% in New Year's resolutions have fallen by the wayside by the start of February. Right. Okay. And I've got 23 years of clinical experience, so I've seen tens of thousands of patients, so I kind of feel I've got a good steer. Certainly from my own experience and what I've seen, I think there's a few things that people get wrong. Okay. I think they try and make it too big too quickly, which I have seen people do that, generally speaking, the people who can transform their lives overnight, they've generally had some really, really big life experience. A divorce, a bereavement, they've lost the house. Something big. Yeah, you can do it. But if you don't have that driving you, I think if you make it too big, you're never going to make it last in the long term. Right. So there's a couple of things to say about these resolutions. Right. So one thing I don't think people understand enough is that every single behavior in our life serves a role. Too often we try and change the behavior without understanding the role it plays in our life. So I'll give you a really practical example. If your alcohol consumption is your way of managing stress.
Daily Stoic Host (likely Ryan Holiday)
Yeah.
Dr. Mike
Right. You can white knuckle it for the first two or three weeks of January and you will stop and you'll think, yeah, I've got more energy, I'm sleeping better. Great, great, great. I have no problem with that. But if it's your way of managing stress. The only way you'll change it in the long term is by one of two things. Either the amount of stress in your life has to change so then you'll no longer need the alcohol, or you need an alternative behavior to alcohol to help you manage the stress. It sounds so obvious, Ryan, when I put it like that. But most people in my experience are caught up in their lives and they're focused too much on the behavior instead of being focused on what role does behavior play. And so I've come to the conclusion that, and this is really one of the primary thesises in Make Change that Lasts, my new book, is this idea that it's not necessarily the behavior you need to focus on, it's the energy.
Daily Stoic Co-host or Guest (possibly Stephen Hanselman)
What's it doing for you? Why are you doing it?
Dr. Mike
And the other way I look at it for New Year's resolutions is all behaviors, I believe, come from either love or fear, right at their core. So if you feel bad about who you are, you're consumed with guilt and shame and jealousy and envy or whatever it might be. These are all things that come from the energy of fear. If your changes are coming from that kind of energy, I don't think they're going to last in the long term because you're trying to overcome, like, the behavior is in conflicts with who you consider yourself to be. This was me a few years ago, right? So I would say, right, this year I'm going to meditate and I'd do 20 minutes of meditation every morning until like, the 16th of January. Then I'll miss a day because work gets busy and I beat myself up in my head. Negative self talk. I'd be wrong. And you couldn't do it, could you, this year? You know, you're a loser. You couldn't. I used to have a really negative inner voice. I've completely changed that over the years with these kind of intentional practices. And now I find behavior change really, really simple because I've focused on the underlying energies behind that behavior change. And one of the things I try to kind of address in this book, Ryan, is I'm a doctor, right? So through the lens of health, I think we're living in a world where we've got more information than ever before. More health podcasts, more health books, more blogs, whatever it might be. But why, despite all this increase in information and knowledge, is it not translating to better health outcomes?
Daily Stoic Co-host or Guest (possibly Stephen Hanselman)
We know what we should, of us know what we should do or not do.
Dr. Mike
Exactly. So, you know, I really tried hard with this book. No, no, no. There's a lot of what we should be doing out there. I've written books on what we should be doing. This book addresses the why. Why are we still doing the things that we know are harming us? And I think a lot of it is internal. It comes to our internal world and people don't want to go there, but that's where the gold is.
Daily Stoic Co-host or Guest (possibly Stephen Hanselman)
It's funny. So every year for Daily Stoic, we do this thing. We call it the Daily Stoic New Year, New Year Challenge. So it's like 21 days of stoic inspired challenges. It's different every year, but it's just a bunch of cool stoic practices. And the idea is one or two will stick with someone and they'll take it through the year. One will get them to think about something differently. But it's funny. We'll start talking about it in early December. The first day you announce it, bunch of people sign up. Second time you announce a bunch of people sign up, and then it sort of dips. And then the. It starts on January 1st. But like, the second biggest signup day is always like January 2nd. So, like, people want to change. Like, at some level they heard about this, they want to change. And then what we do, I think this is the most insidious part of what gets in the way of so much of what we're capable of doing is we go, okay, I'm going to do it tomorrow. They go, okay, that's. That starts on January 1st. So that's a couple weeks from now. So in a couple weeks from now, I'll get serious about thinking about signing up, and then I'll miss that. Like, which is. The stoics talk about, about how we know what we need to do, but then we say we tell ourselves this huge lie, which is like, I'll do it in the morning, I'll do it after this. I'll do it when things calm down. By just moving the timeline up a little bit, we let ourselves off the hook, and then most of us don't do it.
Dr. Mike
I completely agree. It's what I've seen in patients for years. It's. It's always next week or next Monday or next month, but when the kids are older. Yeah, it starts today. So another five minute practice I try and do each day is what my wife and I call the five minute tea ritual. Like many people, if you're not intentional about it, you can live in the same house, but you get so busy with work and the children and you're like passing ships. Right. So a few years ago we decided, yeah, listen, yeah, life gets busy from time to time, but we really need to intentionally focus on our relationship. So we have this practice, the five minute tea ritual, every night when the kids were younger. And we still try and do it now when they've gone to bed. Before we do anything else, we come to the kitchen, we make a pot of mint tea. So non caffeinated. And it's not the rule. The practice is that for five minutes we catch up. Right. So it's only five minutes. It's the requirement. So we're just going to ask each other about our days instead of we.
Daily Stoic Co-host or Guest (possibly Stephen Hanselman)
Got to get a babysitter, we're going to book a restaurant reservation. You make it too big and then you're like, we can't do it this way.
Dr. Mike
Yeah. And it's like before, you know, it's a few months before you did anything. And what's really interesting is, and I think this builds on this five minute action each day principle that we're talking about. It's not that some days those five minutes don't become 30 minutes or an hour.
Daily Stoic Co-host or Guest (possibly Stephen Hanselman)
Yes. More often than not.
Dr. Mike
More often than not, they do, because it's actually, oh, this is much more fun than going on Netflix or YouTube, whatever it might be. It's like, oh, this is, you know, this is why I married you. Right. We actually want to spend time together.
Daily Stoic Co-host or Guest (possibly Stephen Hanselman)
Wait, we like each other. Yeah.
Dr. Mike
Yeah. But some days, one of us will say, actually, it's just gonna be five minutes a day. Like, I've actually got a few emails to do, or whatever it might be. Whenever we felt either one of us, oh, we're too busy. And it's been a few days without that practice. It's really interesting. You can feel it in our relationship. The niggles, the small things start to bother us. There's less intimacy, there's less connection. But when we are quite disciplined about the five minute tea ritual, everything else in our relationship, and therefore our lives and our health starts to get better.
Daily Stoic Host (likely Ryan Holiday)
Right.
Dr. Mike
And so I'm a huge fan of these small things that we do consistently. I have found time and time again with me and with thousands of my patients, these are the things that I think move the needle for most people.
Daily Stoic Host (likely Ryan Holiday)
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Daily Stoic Co-host or Guest (possibly Stephen Hanselman)
I mean, there's a writing rule of two crappy pages a day.
Daily Stoic Host (likely Ryan Holiday)
Yeah.
Daily Stoic Co-host or Guest (possibly Stephen Hanselman)
It seems like the opposite of how you would get good writing to set a goal, to do bad writing. But what it's doing is it's dramatically lowering the stakes. It's making it attainable, and it's actually hard to do crappy pages. But the idea is you got to do crappy pages, and to do great pages, they share one similarity, which is that you have to show up. And so by lowering the stakes, you can create the room to create positive momentum. And then the other thing, which I think is a rule we don't, or I guess a factor, a fact of life we don't talk about enough, which is that I think quantity is a way to get to quality. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, let's say every day for a month, you sit down with your spouse and you have five minutes. A lot of those are Going to be five minutes of nothingness. But one of those or a handful of those are really going to be significant which you only could have had by having the larger number, right? Like, and so the more you sit down and do the thing that what you're doing is increasing your chances of having those really transcendent days. And so, but people focus on, you know what, like for writing, they're like, I'm going to rent a cabin, I'm going to go there and I'm going to have two great weeks in a row. No, you're not, you're not. First off, you're not going to do it.
Dr. Mike
Yeah.
Daily Stoic Co-host or Guest (possibly Stephen Hanselman)
And then second, like you're going to have five of those days be crappy and, and as a result, like you're not gonna return with the things that you needed. So it's more about the day to dayness, the consistency and the quantity that gets.
Dr. Mike
You see this with health, right? So let's use the example of working out, which is a desire that many people have at all times, but particularly at the new year, right? It's like I wanna move my body more, I'm spending too much time at the desk. People start to get paralyzed with choice, right? Oh what, you know, I'm going to run, I'm going to do yoga, I'm going to do Pilates, I'm going to, you know, what is that I'm going to do? And I've had patients before where they've literally got angina pains in their heart. We talk about physical activity, a month later they're still coming back saying, hey doctor, I can't decide which one to do. Right? And I understand that, I have sympathy, but the point is, frankly, any of.
Daily Stoic Co-host or Guest (possibly Stephen Hanselman)
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Dr. Mike
And that would have, and that would have solved you. And so through the lens of my 5 minute strength workout, people say, what do you do? The same thing every day? And actually for many years I did. Because if you have to decide every morning, oh what am I going to do today? That's procrastination, that's choice. That leads to indecision and inaction. And we know this in business, in the business world, when Amazon moved to one click ordering about 10 years ago or so, estimates say their profits went up by 300 million a year. Because back then, I don't know if you can remember this but you know, there were four or five steps to take before you could purchase. You have to confirm order, put in your car details on a new screen, there's three or four Steps each time you have another option. It's a reason that you can pull out of the behavior. And so the reason we brush our teeth each night, well, one of the reasons is because the same action every day. On Tuesday evening, we don't go, you know what? I brushed yesterday. Yeah, let me do something different today. I'm gonna floss today. And then on Wednesday we don't go, I brush. And I thought, I'm just gonna rinse today. We don't do that.
Daily Stoic Co-host or Guest (possibly Stephen Hanselman)
We know if you had to assemble the toothbrush, you had to package it. If you had to make the toothpaste, wouldn't do it.
Daily Stoic Host (likely Ryan Holiday)
Yeah, right.
Dr. Mike
And so that's why my dumbbell and kettlebell lives in my kitchen. My cafeteria is there. It all works together. It is so easy. I can barely not do it. Now, going back to news resolutions, there's another. I think for me, it's a big idea that I don't think we're talking about enough. Right. And I think it is a way of connecting a lot of your writings and practices with health, which. And I think sometimes people don't see the connection. Right. So I believe that a lot of the reason why we can't make changes that last is because we don't understand the internal drivers that are leading us to those practices.
Daily Stoic Co-host or Guest (possibly Stephen Hanselman)
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Dr. Mike
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Date: December 23, 2025
Host: Ryan Holiday (Daily Stoic)
Guest: Dr. Rangan Chatterjee
This bonus episode explores why New Year’s resolutions so often fail. Ryan Holiday is joined by Dr. Rangan Chatterjee—physician, author, and behavior change expert—who draws on over two decades of clinical experience and shares practical Stoic and scientific wisdom for making meaningful, lasting changes. The conversation delves into the psychological and emotional drivers of our habits, focusing on why willpower and big goals are often not enough, and what actually leads to sustainable transformation.
The conversation is warm, practical, and motivational, blending Stoic philosophy with medical insights and real-world habit advice. Humor and humility are woven through personal stories and admissions of past struggles.
Summary prepared for listeners seeking to apply both Stoic wisdom and behavioral science to their New Year’s resolutions in a deep and practical way.