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Welcome to the daily Stoic podcast, designed to help bring those four key Stoic virtues, courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom, into the real world. Who would ever want to be king? It seems like it would be exciting and glamorous and intoxicating, but, you know, Marcus Aurelius did not want to be king. He dreaded it. I fictionalized this story slightly in the fable that I wrote, which is, I think, great for kids, the Boy who Would Be King. But it's true. Marcus Aurelius supposedly wept when he found out he would be emperor because he knew how many bad kings there had been in history. And also, more sweetly, because he was just a boy, he did not want to move out of his mother's house. And it's perfectly reasonable that Marcus Aurelius doubted whether he could do so difficult a job, doubted whether he could make it through with his virtue and his values intact. In fact, that's probably why he did make for a good emperor, because he was worried about these things. It's rational to be wary of power. It's also rational to be wary of people who are not. It's reasonable to want to live a quieter life. It's a sign of character, not to be tantalized by the trappings of fame or wealth. But power doesn't wait for the perfect person to raise their hand. Someone will wield it. Someone always does. So while it's admirable not to lust for the spotlight, the harder challenge comes when responsibility comes looking for you to accept it like Marcus did, and to worry about keeping your values and virtue intact and then to actually fight to be the person that philosophy wants you to be, as he did. To be the leader who doesn't want to be king, but who is willing to serve when duty calls. And that's the idea in the Boy who Would Be King, which I think is celebrating itself. Sixth anniversary now. I wrote it to my kids during the pandemic and now they're reading it to me. Someone just asked me to sign their copy when I was doing a talk in San Diego. It was really cool. If you want to teach your kids some Stoic philosophy, you want to introduce them to these ideas. I think this fable is great. You can get a signed copy of it and the other kids book I wrote, the Boy who Would Be King, the Girl who Would Be Free, you can grab those now. I'll link to them in today's show notes. We are just getting back from a trip, so the fridge is empty. And we were like, oh, man, we gotta go to the store we're gonna have for dinner tonight. And then I realized no no no wait. Hellofresh just came. So we took the hellofresh meals out and we got to work. We love hellofresh in our household cause the meals are simple. You can make em on a busy work night, you can do it on the weekend, you can do it when you get to the end of your groceries. They have more than a hundred recipes every week, which is especially great if people at your home have allergies or preferences or they don't like to eat the same thing twice. You can always make just the right amount of food so everyone feels full and satisfied and there aren't a bunch of leftovers to deal with. And there's now three times the seafood for no upcharge. If you've got folks coming over for dinner, impress them with new grass fed steak ribeyes. My kids love steak. HelloFresh always has delicious options with seasonal produce like pears, apples and asparagus. When dinner tastes this good, nothing hits like home cooking. And we love home cooking with hellofresh. And I think you'll love it too. Just go to hellofresh fresh.com stoic10fm to get 10 free meals and a free Zwilling knife which is $144 value on your third box. Offer valued while supplies last free meals applied as discount on first box. New subscribers only. Varies by plan. As you know, AI is everywhere. You're probably using a handful of different AI tools in your life, you know, day to day now. But how many of us are stopping and asking, should I be asking this to AI? I think about that all the time. Do I want to give it my personal information? Do I want to upload this thing that I worked on that I own the copyright to? I don't know. Right? Got work stuff, personal questions, late night thoughts, medical issues. We're sharing a lot with AI, maybe even more than we realized. And that's where DuckDuckGo comes in. Because they just built Duck AI for folks who want to keep their conversations with AI tools private. You go to Duck AI and you can chat privately with the same AIs that you're already using, whether that's ChatGPT or Claude or whatever. And it protects your info from hackers, from scammers and data hungry companies. It's a win win. Plus it's from DuckDuckGo, the company known for protecting your data, not collecting it. No signups, no subscriptions, no learning curve. Just visit Duck AI and start chatting. If you want to use AI without giving up your privacy, Visit Duck AI Stoic today. That's d a private way to chat with AI from DuckDuckGo, where AI is always optional and private.
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Justice is not politics or what's happening in the law or what's happening in a courtroom or with judges and juries. It starts with, like, some basic human stuff first, right? It's ethics. It's values. It's honesty and loyalty and fairness and decency and kindness and transparency and integrity, right? It's these bedrock values that you either ascribe to or you don't. They're not the law. You don't have to, but they're good if you do. They make you a better person. They make for a better world. And they're primarily in our control, right? We can lament what's happening in the world, but these values, living by them, modeling them, showing that we mean what we say about them to our employees, to our children, to our neighbors, to ourselves, that's what we're talking about. And I would say that in a disorienting, disconcerting world, these basic values and virtues are really edifying, I think, by integrity and justice and ethics and values. One of the things we're also talking about here is accountability. This is where discipline comes in two, right? Responsibility. Do you guys know who Frank Robinson is? One of the greatest baseball players of all time. The first one to win the MVP in the American and the National Leagues. And then he also has a World Series mvp, too. There's a story about just an ordinary game. The Orioles are playing the Red Sox, and he hits what he thinks is a clean home run. It's going out into left field. And then at the last minute, it. It bangs off the. The green monster, like, 40ft up almost. And as it bangs off the tin, it's at that moment that he realizes, well, he didn't hit a home run and that he hadn't been running as fast as he should have been because he was so convinced it was going out of the park. And Robinson ends up having to settle for a double instead of what could have been a triple or maybe even a full trip around the bases if he'd really, really run. Now, the Orioles end up winning this game in a blowout. You know, it's one of his at bats and thousands of games. His commitment, his dedication, his discipline, his contributions, they are unquestioned. So that's why the manager of the Orioles was stunned when, after the game, Robinson walks into his office and slams $200 down on his desk. He says, coach, I'm fining myself. He says, I should have run it out. Basically, he knew that he cheated the game, he cheated himself, he cheated his teammates by just not doing his best. Now, it didn't matter in the big scheme of things, but it mattered to him. That's what we're talking about when we're talking about virtue and discipline. Doesn't matter that you can get away with it. It doesn't matter that no one's putting a gun to your head. It doesn't matter that most of the other times you did do the right thing. It matters this time. And that's why you have to hold yourself accountable. In that same Vietnamese prison camp as Admiral Stockdale, a young John McCain was asked to sign a confession or to give up some information, and he refused. And they said, why? No one will know. And he responded, but I would know. I would know. That's what justice and accountability are. This is the standard. This is who I am. This is what I know I'm supposed to do, and I'm going to do it, even if no one's looking. When I think about the things that I'm most embarrassed about, most ashamed about, they're not things that were public that I got in trouble for most of the time. There are things where I just knew I could have done better, I knew I should have done more, and I didn't. And again, no one held me accountable, and I didn't hold myself accountable. But I'm doing it after, right? I'm looking back and going, hey, that excuse didn't age well. I should have been more involved. I should have spoken up. I should have said no to this or that. And that weighs on you, right? That's what you, your conscience is there for. I think this is what Epictetus meant when he said, when anyone criticizes you, you should say to yourself, I got off easy, because if they really knew me, they'd say something worse. Accountability is primarily self accountability, just as discipline, as a virtue is self discipline. It's not that they made you do it, that you have to, that you did or didn't do it because you were afraid of getting caught or you knew you wouldn't get caught. You did or you didn't do it because of your values. Admiral James Stockdale would talk about how too many people take this idea of integrity. They say he said they put it in a desk drawer labeled too hard. And he says, but that's the wrong way to think about integrity. In fact, he said that your integrity is something that can guide you in difficult and painful moments. He says it's something to rely on when your perspective starts to blur, when rules and principles seem to be falling apart, when they waver, he says. When you're faced with hard choices or right and wrong, he says integrity is something that can keep you on the right track, right? The sense of being on the path, not kept on it. And it's that integrity is something that can keep you afloat when you're drowning, right? They sometimes compare the stoic virtues, like the cardinal virtues, right? People point out that's also what a compass is called, right? The cardinal points on a compass, I think justice, integrity, decency, honesty, fairness. This has to be the north star of that compass, right? You might be confused by everything that's happening. You might be confused by everything that's happening in the world, but you know what you're supposed to be doing, which is to say, say what is right. And so we need these virtues, this value more than ever because these are confusing and bewildering times.
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Episode Title: Who Would Ever Want to Be King? | Stop Letting Yourself Off the Hook
Release Date: February 27, 2026
Host: Ryan Holiday
This episode of The Daily Stoic explores the paradox of power and duty—particularly, why someone would (or wouldn’t) seek leadership, referencing Marcus Aurelius’ legendary reluctance to become emperor. Host Ryan Holiday discusses how true virtue is upholding your ethical standards even when no one is watching, and the importance of holding yourself accountable. Drawing from his own work, Stoic philosophy, and notable historical figures, he unpacks why humility, virtue, self-discipline, and integrity should be the bedrock for all forms of leadership and daily life.
Ryan Holiday uses the story of Marcus Aurelius (the reluctant emperor) to challenge listeners: true virtue and leadership are proven by those who resist the allure of power but accept responsibility when it arises, always guarding their values. The episode then urges listeners to hold themselves accountable—not just when others might notice, but especially when no one is watching. In turbulent or confusing times, Stoic virtues like justice and integrity should be our unchanging north star.
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