A Massive Controversy In Greg Cote's Catchphrase Countdown List | Local Hour

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: A Massive Controversy In Greg Cote's Catchphrase Countdown List | Local Hour
Date: May 12, 2026

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Episode Overview

This Local Hour episode is vintage Le Batard Show, blending banter, sports analysis, and in-studio chaos. Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Greg Cote, and company dive into the Pulitzer buzz around Pablo Torre’s show, the ascendant Oklahoma City Thunder, Miami’s sports event hosting controversies, contrasting sports legends as broadcasters, Miami sports fandom, and the spiraling drama over Greg Cote’s ever-expanding “Top 50” catchphrase countdown. The tone is irreverent, quick-witted, and filled with group ridicule, friendly arguments, and the kind of inside-joke chaos the show’s fans relish.

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Key Discussion Points

1. "Everyone's a Pulitzer Winner?" — The Pablo Torre Show’s Acclaim (00:15 – 04:24)

• Dan argues that since Meadowlark Media funded Pablo Torre’s Pulitzer-winning work, all full-time staff share in the win:
  • “We are the ones who funded that work. So I didn’t do the work. He did the work... but you all are Pulitzer winners.” (00:46)
• Stugotz and the crew push back, likening this logic to a sports owner claiming to actually "win" a championship.
  • Tony: “Wait, so is Clay Bennett actually the NBA MVP?” (04:00)
• The segment humorously spills into analogies about group vs. individual achievements in sports and media.
• Notable Quote:
  • Dan: “Meadowlark Media is a Pulitzer Prize winning media company!...Does the owner get to win something or not?” (03:12)

2. Oklahoma City Thunder: The "Sneaky Dynasty"? (04:32 – 07:36)

• Dan launches a poll on whether OKC is the first ever "sneaky dynasty," in light of their Western Conference Finals run and decisive sweep of LeBron’s Lakers.
  • “OKC has now made the Western Conference finals in a third of their seasons. That’s nuts, huh?” (05:01)
• Conversation shifts to how OKC’s deep, flexible roster makes them a perennial threat, contrasting this with the Miami Heat’s distance from contention.
• Quick-hit debate on Dylan Brooks as the NBA’s top “player hater”—the only guy “willing to disrespect LeBron this way” (07:03)—and on how sports villains are (sometimes) rehabilitated when their teams win.

3. LeBron’s Longevity & Super Bowl in Miami: Facility Fights (08:06 – 15:32)

• Dan cites Tom Haberstroh’s stats on LeBron’s 40+ year-old NBA playoff dominance, prompting a quiz on other NBA forty-somethings (Kevin Willis, Robert Parish, Vince Carter).
  • “He’s got 232 points after the age of 41. All other 41 year old players have 212…Nobody plays NBA basketball until they're 41.” (08:09)
• The crew then debates whether Miami should always host the Super Bowl, given its amenities and weather.
  • Discussion pivots to rumors of Dolphins owner Stephen Ross seeking public funds to further stadium “improvements,” despite hosting major events like F1 and the Miami Open.
  • Tony: “Do not tell me that we cannot house the temporary hospitality tents because our permanent hospitality structure for Formula One has gotten in the way.” (13:03)
  • Dan cracks about the legendary “El Palacio” hotel:
    • “I used to call it El Palacio’s Friendly Neighborhood Crack Den… it isn’t quite up to super bowl standards.” (13:51)
• Detailed complaints about local hotels, proximity to stadiums and airports, and hotel blackout curtains (14:09-15:32).

4. Sports Legends & Media Appearances: The Michael Jordan NBC “Load Management” (19:18 – 23:36)

• The group examines Michael Jordan’s “all season load management” for NBC—filming one pre-season interview, then going full recluse.
  • Dan: “Did he just give them an hour of his time and allow them to have all sorts of press releases…then just used that interview all season?” (19:18)
• Parallels are drawn to Gretzky, Brady, and Messi as legendary athletes who dodge extensive media appearances.
  • “The all time hall of famers…will just give you an hour of time and you can use it all season. Or you will not get (them).” (20:48)
• Tony: “Can we be happy with what we got? [Messi]…has been incredible to date. The single best MLS player ever, just based on form.” (22:54)

5. Miami Sports Fandom: Canes, Gators, and Divided Loyalties (23:43 – 29:54)

• Zaslow faces inquisition for sporting a University of Florida shirt despite being a noted Miami Hurricanes supporter.
  • Dan: “You’re a proud Miami and you’re somebody who’s a voice for Miami sports and you’re wearing [a] University of Florida shirt.” (24:04)
• Debate on “who are Miami’s true rivals?” (Florida, Notre Dame, FSU), and whether the Gator-Hurricane rivalry is even heated anymore.
  • “To be a rival at the top of the rival food chain you have to be hated…Florida has residual hatred…it doesn’t feel like there’s very much recent to choose from.” (26:16)
• Put it on the poll: Can a Miami fan be a University of Florida grad? (24:22)

6. Trump, Indiana Football, and "Mavericks" (32:45 – 39:00)

• Trump’s White House event for Indiana's Cinderella football team, with Coach Kurt Signetti in the awkward spotlight.
  • “Is this the greatest college football team ever? Standing behind Donald Trump, starting quarterback Fernando Mendoza?” (34:31)
• Dan roasts Esquire’s “Sports Mavericks” list, mocking Ferdinand Mendoza as anything but a maverick:
  • “What’s the opposite of a maverick? He’s a goose.” (33:37)
• List includes Shams Charania, Tommy Fleetwood, Aryna Sabalenka, Marcus Freeman, Eileen Gu—prompting debate over the actual definition of “maverick.”
  • “Just being Cuban doesn’t make you a maverick. Just makes you Cuban.” (38:05)
• Lighthearted polling: Which is more pejorative—“goofy” or “nerdy”?

7. Greg Cote’s Catchphrase Countdown Controversy (39:20 – 45:53)

• The episode’s central comic plot: Greg Cote’s “Top 50 Catchphrases” list, months in the making, has suddenly expanded to 60 due to “quality demand.”
  • “The controversy is that based on quality demand, the catchphrase countdown has suddenly increased from a top 50 to a top 60.” (41:12)
• The crew rags on Greg for poor planning, moving goalposts, and having to “find” ten more catchphrases to fill out the fresh list.
  • “What used to be 50 is now 60. So we've gotten fraudulent rankings up to now.” (43:22)
  • “There’s no way, if you had to take a guess, there’s no way it’s going to stay at 60, right?” (45:28)
• Banter about the nature of rankings, sports history lists, and whether 60 is even a "beautiful" number.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan Le Batard (on the Pulitzer win):
  “I don’t feel like you guys realize that you all are Pulitzer winners.” (00:46)
• Tony (on Miami’s event hosting):
  “Don’t tell me...we cannot house the temporary hospitality tents because our permanent hospitality structure for Formula One has gotten in the way.” (13:03)
• Stugotz (on the Cote list drama):
  “Rankings always change…Babe Ruth, greatest player ever. Not so much now.” (44:29)
• Greg Cody (on the expanded catchphrase list):
  “There were only 14 left, but there were like 20 something good ones…They’re just bangers.” (42:17, 42:22)
• Dan (on fake precision):
  “All the numerical rankings we’ve given the American public and internationally have been wrong.” (43:35)
• Dan (on Esquire “mavericks” list):
  “What’s the opposite of a maverick? He’s a goose.” (33:37)

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Timestamps for Vital Segments

• Pulitzer Prize/Meadowlark Media Debate: 00:15 – 04:24
• OKC Thunder Ascendance & LeBron: 04:32 – 07:36
• LeBron’s Age Stats & Miami’s Super Bowl Viability: 08:06 – 15:32
• Michael Jordan/NBC & Legends Dodging Media: 19:18 – 23:36
• Miami Fandom/Rivalries/Canes vs. Gators: 23:43 – 29:54
• Trump, Indiana Football, and “Mavericks” Clowning: 32:45 – 39:00
• Greg Cote Catchphrase Countdown Controversy: 39:20 – 45:53

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a showcase of what the Local Hour does best: mixing genuine sports insight with playful anarchy, poking fun at themselves and each other, while diagnosing the quirks of fandom, media, and Miami’s unique sports culture. The real “massive controversy”—Greg Cote’s shifting catchphrase list—turns into a metaphor for the show itself: hilariously imprecise, joyously improvised, and always more fun for coloring outside the lines.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

So I am in the company of a man who almost won a Pulitzer Prize by hiring someone who did later win a Pulitzer Prize. So congratulations to Dan Lebatard. I haven't seen Dan for a couple of weeks, so I have all of this hubbub and hoopla about the Pulitzer Prize. I just wonder how Dan feels about it, because, you know, you're. Are you a Pulitzer Prize? Do you get one of those coins? It's like a small gold coin. Do you get one of those?

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know. We are in the episode with Pablo, Miamin and Samson. But you do realize everyone who is full time here won a Pulitzer Prize. Everything that we do here funds everything Pablo's doing in New York. So everyone here who is full time and has a percentage of this company is a Pulitzer winner because they're the ones who funded. We are the ones who funded that work. So we didn't do the work. Pablo did the work, but we did the work in allowing the work to be done. So everyone here. I don't feel like you guys realize that you all are Pulitzer winners. Like, that's what happened.

[Stugotz]

Well, I'm not full time, so we're all Pulitzer winners.

[Greg Cody]

Just the way you guys would have been highlight champions.

[Tony]

Yeah, Dan, you were a Battle Court fall champion. You didn't seem to care too much.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, let's be Pablo.

[Eddie]

Doesn't really make it seem like I want a Pulitzer Prize, though.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Zaslow]

I'd like Pablo to acknowledge my contribution.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, and mine. As a key.

[Tony]

Twice a week, Temp Amin's really elbowed anybody else away.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's unusually proud of it. He flew to Los Angeles as I was flying back, saying, we got to go have drinks. He wanted like, Amin is happier about this than anyone I've seen about this. And Cody is one of the few people I've noticed who cares, because I'm not joking when I say this. When I called Pablo to congratulate him, he had to do to me what I just did to you guys, which is. You realize this is yours too, Dan, Right? Because I didn't do the work. He did the work.

[Kurt Signetti]

But we.

[Dan Le Batard]

We did the work that makes all of what Pablo's doing possible. I don't think the people listening to this quite understand the calamity that the media landscape is actually in where that show. It's very hard for anyone in corporate media to actually do that show because of how compromised everyone in corporate media is with all of their partnerships doing truth telling shows. That's going to bother you basically have in all of the five companies that are running America. They don't want to actually make anything interesting. They don't want to make anything that offends anybody.

[Stugotz]

No, it's a. It's a valuable honor that was won by the Pablo Torre show. I just think that if, if I'm being honest, to say that everyone connected with Meadowlock Media has won a Pulitzer Prize is a bit much.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not though. Meadowlark Media is a Pulitzer Prize winning media company and Meadowlark Media is the. That paid for everything Pablo's doing. So wait a minute. So when, when somebody wins something, anything in sports, does the owner get to win something or not?

[Stugotz]

Let me give you an example. And none of it, none of what I'm saying is belittling this in any way. But to give you an analogy, the Miami Herald has won a lot of Pulitzer prizes. I think 12 or 15 or 18 or something. I've worked for the Miami Herald during all of those Pulitzer Prizes. Does that mean I am a Pulitzer Prize winner?

[Dan Le Batard]

If the Miami Herald wins a Pulitzer Prize, you work for a company that is a Pulitzer Prize winning company.

[Tony]

Wait, so is Clay Bennett actually the NBA mvp?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, he is the champion.

[Tony]

He funds the operation.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's the champion owner. He's not the mvp, but he's the champ. You don't win the MVP as a team. It's an individual award. You do win a championship as a team.

[Tony]

This feels more like an mvp. At least that's the way Pablo is making it seem.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levator show with

[Stugotz]

the Stu Guts podcast.

[Dan Le Batard]

Juju. Put it on the poll, please. Is OKC going to be the first ever sneaky dynasty? The OKC is now in the Western Conference finals again. They swept LeBron. First time LeBron has ever been swept this early in the playoffs. And OKC has now made the Western Conference finals in a third of their seasons. That's nuts, huh?

[Zaslow]

That's really good.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's hard to do. And they're not going anywhere for a while because they can go and get a second player and put them next to Shai Gilgeous Alexander and it doesn't even matter who the second player is. They'll just keep putting second players next to him and they will become whatever it is a second player has to become because of how strong they are. And it makes you feel, if you're the Miami Heat, like you're a million miles from the title because of how they're ransacking people. They don't even trail. Like, they've spent very little of the postseason trailing. And I understand that the Lakers are missing a pretty important piece, but to just roll through both of the playoff entities and do it so assuredly that Dylan Brooks is sitting behind. Sitting behind the basket.

[Zaslow]

I like him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Blinged out. Oh, you like him now? He's just laughing.

[Eddie]

No, he's an ultimate player hater.

[Zaslow]

I like him. Well, I also like him because I think he's a winning player. Like, I think he's proven that in his career. Like, he could be a pest, he's certainly dirty at times. He could be. He could be a huge nuisance, but he's very clearly a winning player.

[Stugotz]

Right.

[Zaslow]

And that stuff to me is important. I like Dylan Brooks.

[Eddie]

Such a change from where he was in Memphis where, like, he couldn't shoot. They cut him out.

[Zaslow]

Right, because he was terrible for everything.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, I agree.

[Eddie]

But he was also not good.

[Zaslow]

No, they were wrong for blaming him for everything is what I'm saying.

[Tony]

I agree.

[Eddie]

But for, for that time where he was, the play into the regular season playoffs, he was shooting like 12%, like he was terrible.

[Zaslow]

He's a good player now and big time play ahead at the end.

[Dan Le Batard]

I thought that they got rid of him basically because they thought he was a bad influence on John Moran and also that he couldn't shoot at the time. But I remember at the time that the rockets gave him $80 million. I really thought he was going to have to go play in Turkey or something. I didn't think that he had never mind a winning player or an important starter. I didn't think that he had a legitimate future in the NBA after everything that happened in Memphis. But for him to sit where he sat last night under the basket in very expensive seats, blinged out and just laughing at LeBron as he's on the free throw line, that is just some classic player hating that you do not often see, especially of someone who's a legend. Dylan Brooks is legitimately the only guy in the NBA willing to disrespect LeBron this way. There's no second place on this. And in fact, whatever second place is, is a distant second on a peer mocking LeBron James.

[Zaslow]

No one would have done that to Michael Jordan.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, someone did blow in his

[Zaslow]

ear but there's not a single player would have done that to Michael Jordan. Like Michael Jordan's about to retire and somebody's going to show up disrespectful like that and sit under the basket laughing at him in what could be his final game. You know we really missed out on though, Dan, is if the Lakers would have won last night, the possibility of Dylan Brooks following the Lakers around this series. So he could be there for LeBron's last game.

[Dan Le Batard]

It is cute.

[Greg Cody]

You think it's his last game though?

[Zaslow]

Oh no, I don't.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nobody thinks that. Regardless, we have a special six part series that we're going to begin airing today. Just sort of talking about the majesty of LeBron because when he says the season was a success, it lands differently with me after a sweep than when Joel Embiid says the season was a success. LeBron James, these stats from Tom Haberstrough. I don't know if you guys have seen the stats on Haberstro, on LeBron James, but. So he's got 232 points after the age of 41. All other 41 year old players in NBA history have a combined 212 points. He's got 73 playoff assists. All other over 41 players have 22 assists all time NBA. I'm assuming all those numbers are for Kareem Abdul Jabbar because obviously it's a bit of a rhetorical trick. Nobody plays NBA basketball until they're 41. Go ahead, give me the third guy you guys think have played basketball until he's 41. I'll give you LeBron and give me a third guy.

[Zaslow]

Kevin Willis.

[Dan Le Batard]

He did not play until he was 41. With those short arms. Anybody can, can, can you guys remember anyone playing NBA basketball in their 40s other than those two? Because I'm assuming what Haberstro. This looks like comprehensive research by Haberstro. I think he just looked up Kareem Abdul Jabbar's postseason stats and those are the ones he's using.

[Eddie]

Did that say Kevin Willis? Yeah, he would play till he was 44.

[Zaslow]

I know, play it.

[Tony]

I got Vince Carter, Robert Parish, The

[Eddie]

Chief, also 43, dominating Vince Carter 43. Dirk at 40.

[Dan Le Batard]

Kevin Willis played in the NBA until he was 44.

[Eddie]

This large language model says he played until he was 44.

[Zaslow]

He had them T Rex arms.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait a minute. He also wore leather everywhere. All his suits were leather, some of them red leather. Because the fashionista like Eddie, he was a good player. Not, not at 44. He wasn't go ahead and give me all of Willis's stats. Post 40. Just give me all of the stats he had. Post 40 years old.

[Eddie]

I'll find that.

[Zaslow]

But I got it. I got it for you, Hickey.

[Eddie]

45 years old, oldest player ever.

[Stugotz]

Kevin Willis retired in 2005 and came back in 2006 and played five games.

[Dan Le Batard]

Come back, you have it in front of you. You're going to give us some Kevin Willis numbers here in the local hour because those were. Those were heady years for the Miami Heat. When Kevin Willis. When they traded Kevin Willis.

[Zaslow]

Terrible. Lewis Chappelle, Billy Cunningham. What are you doing in San Antonio at 40 years old? Kevin Willis averaged 4.2 points per game. He appeared in 71 games at 40 years old. How about that?

[Stugotz]

Wow. Four points, though, right?

[Mike]

All right.

[Zaslow]

But that's a guy who played 71 games.

[Stugotz]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's still crazy. And congratulations as on getting that correct. How do you guys feel about Miami Super Bowls? Because I think the super bowl should almost always be in Miami just because it is such a great tourist city and everyone appreciates the weather and in a way that perhaps they don't when the super bowl is in Minnesota. And Mad Dog is the only person in the world who's saying that that's his favorite super bowl site. How do you feel about everything going on with Dolphins owner Steven Ross and the idea that he would appear to be angling for public funds because he doesn't think that the stadium is up to super bowl, you know, demands at the moment?

[Stugotz]

I mean, it's up to the demand of F1, and it's up to the demand of professional tennis. The fifth major, the Miami Open in the national championship.

[Kurt Signetti]

Just here.

[Stugotz]

The national. Yeah. What is he talking about? It is up to super bowl standards. He's just looking for an influx of money that he's not spending. But I also think that he's got so much else going on and making so much money on ancillary stuff besides the Dolphins that he should. He feels like he's not going to beg at age 86. He's not going to go begging for a Super bowl if the NFL doesn't want to put him in the rotation to its own benefit. He's not groveling. That's the way I look.

[Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Tony]

I don't.

[Zaslow]

I don't think he cares anymore. I think because he has those other things going on. F1, the tennis. The World cup is going to be here. The national championship is clearly in rotation.

[Stugotz]

He.

[Zaslow]

He's making so much money from These other events, and they've had a ton of Super Bowls. I don't think he cares about it anymore.

[Tony]

It's a bummer. I like having the super bowl down here. As a fan, I liked whenever it was in Miami. Even though I'm local, I know that there's a bias attached to that. I think Miami does a great job with it and just come out and say that we have all these other things going on. But, I mean, Dan said definitively he's looking for money. We're left to only assume he's looking for some kind of public handout here because the reasons that they gave us, which I think he kind of co signed with Goodell because Goodell made similar comments about the Cleveland Stadium.

[Dan Le Batard]

And as he. They always do this. They always try to get strong arm the country and the cities. Everybody wants the super bowl, so they always do stuff like this where they try and get public money by using the super bowl to get it.

[Tony]

Give me the reason that we have Formula One here and the Miami Open and we're trying to get other events and it just doesn't fit with the calendar because of when Formula One's here and when the Miami opens here. Don't tell me that we don't have the necessary facilities around a pristine sports facility. Do not tell me that we cannot house the temporary hospitality tents because our permanent hospitality structure for Formula One has gotten in the way. El Palacio has been there the entire

[Zaslow]

40 years, right there.

[Tony]

Don't all of a sudden tell me that in 2026, that's not enough hotels. You're trying to get some public land for a hotel. Something's got to be up. Because the reason that you're telling me we cannot have a Super bowl down here just simply does not add up. We have made this stadium too nice.

[Dan Le Batard]

Zaslow brought up El Palacio, which makes me laugh. It is. It's a funny name for a hotel. I used to call it El Palacio's Friendly Neighborhood Crack Den because it isn't quite up to super bowl standards.

[Tony]

Why they had to rebrand. It's no longer El Palacio Stadium Hotel, Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, it is the Stadium hotel, but it's also a decent distance from the hotel. I thought of this the other day as I was driving to the airport because Inter Miami Stadium is so bright, and the hotel that is there would make it really unpleasant on game nights. The amount of light coming into your room, there's simply not enough. There's not enough vision impairment or, you know, light blocking curtains that you can get to block how close the stadium at Inter Miami is to the hotel at the airport.

[Tony]

I have faith in the curtains.

[Stugotz]

Seriously.

[Tony]

Really more, really would be more concerned with the sound of the planes overhead.

[Dan Le Batard]

That too.

[Eddie]

That too.

[Dan Le Batard]

But I'm telling you, I don't. I do not have faith in the blackout curtains at that particular hotel. I think it's a Sheridan. I don't have faith that the stadium lights, they're too close. There's simply no way that it's blocking out all that light.

[Eddie]

When you book an airport hotel, you know that you're by an airport, so you know you're going to get the planes overhead.

[Tony]

Like, that's part of every time I go to Vegas. I'm like, how's this curtain going to stand up? And guess what? It always delivers.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, but the, the hotel and airport, or the hotel and the giant stadium lights, they're usually not quite as close to each other as this hotel is with this stadium.

[Tony]

So that's what they say. Dan, I'm not going to get into this with you. Fine. The curtains don't work at the Sheridan. We'll move on.

[Dan Le Batard]

I thought as I drove past that, I thought, that's way too close to the stadium lights for that to be something that is comfortable sleeping for anybody involved.

[Stugotz]

It's way too close to the stadium. It's way too close to the airport. That's what it's way too close to. I don't care about the lights. I care about the noise and jet airliners.

[Eddie]

Guys, it's an airport hotel. So you stay at the airport and then you go to the hotel. It's right there. That's the point.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's the convenience of it. Yes, but usually put it on the pole at Lebatard Show. When you get the airport hotel, are you expecting stadium lights on your balcony? Yes or no?

[Tony]

Hey, Roy, buddy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yo.

[Tony]

You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody all together in unison knows to stand up on their feet?

[Stugotz]

Oh, absolutely.

[Mike]

Mike.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Tony]

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[Eddie]

Oh, delicious.

[Tony]

It's the signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Cuervo, man. It's that high five. A random stranger effect. That's right. The game is popping. You're hugging people you never met before. That's the kind of energy that Cuervo brings. It's so smooth, so delicious. That's the Cuervo effect. Keep it Cuervo.

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[Tony]

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[Greg Cody]

Oh, when you open that with the can though and you one of the

[Tony]

best sounds on the planet. You pair that with the right game. You take that first sip, we both look around. It's not a bit.

[Greg Cody]

I have goosebumps thinking about the first sip.

[Tony]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard this is the quickest it goes.

[Mike]

Hey, this is the quickest it goes. Stugats, everybody. This is the quickest it goes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, this is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. You guys mentioned mj. How does everyone here feel about the fact that as it relates to his involvement with broadcasting and NBC, he's been on all season load management when it comes to working for NBC. They interviewed him for an hour before the season and they never got him again. After publicly shouting to everybody, hey, we've got mj. I'd love to see that contract. Did he just give them an hour of his time and allow them to have all sorts of press releases because he gave them an hour of time before the season and then just used that interview all season.

[Zaslow]

And unless I'm not remembering it correctly, when they announced their broadcast team, NBC for their first year back with the NBA, they made it sound like Michael Jordan is part of their broadcast team. Like when I saw who's going to be on the broadcast, I was envisioning Michael Jordan is going to be on the desk with them like Gretzky throughout the season.

[Dan Le Batard]

You thought it would be like Gretzky?

[Zaslow]

Exactly like that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Because usually that level of star isn't in broadcasting. Gretzky and Brady are exceptions and they're relatively recent exceptions. I've told you before that ESPN can't get the good broadcasters who are hall of Famer, so they get Emmett Smith and Jerry Rice and Scottie Pippen, the guys who were good at, you know, sports but not good at broadcasting. Generally speaking, the all time hall of Famers will just give you an hour of time before the season and you can use it all season or you will not get the all time hall of Famer.

[Zaslow]

Everyone was really excited, right, when we heard Michael Jordan is going to be a part of it. No one would have had the reaction that we did if it was a sit down interview.

[Dan Le Batard]

I asked you guys though, after like six weeks of that where they just kept playing the same interview and you guys were fine with it especially, I mean, as long as you got, you know, the mystical figure to sit down in front of the cameras one time, you guys were all okay with it. Six weeks in.

[Tony]

I think there has been some sort of pivot on the Michael Jordan deal.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tony]

But also, Dan, I think you're applying a logic from years ago. Like we're presently in an era where Wayne Gretzky and Tom Brady are there for months on end.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mentioned that those are the exceptions, but you got to pay $375 million to get one of them. And Gretzky was famously bland as an interview. Both of them were the entirety. In fact, all of these guys are Michael Jordan as well. They're not interesting broadcasters. They're interesting champions, but they're. They're interesting.

[Tony]

Fox's baseball has Jeter, a Rod and Poppy. Those are faces of an entire baseball generation.

[Dan Le Batard]

And Pedro too.

[Stugotz]

I would liken Michael Jordan to Lionel Messi. When Apple TV signed up to. To do mls, I think they probably assumed that that means access to Lionel Messi. They're lucky. They were lucky if they get a 30 second post game interview with Messi and Michael Jordan. If anything, I think it adds to his mistakes. The idea that he's gonna give you one hour and you're gonna use it any way you like, but you're not gonna get a mic in front of me again.

[Tony]

Greg, I wanna side with you and the local media because they've said this about Messi and they seem really upset that Messi is not pulling his own when it comes to his media veils. Can we be happy with what we got? He won literally the award for best player on the planet while he was wearing an Inter Miami shirt.

[Dan Le Batard]

I agree.

[Tony]

He was months removed from his crowning achievement at the World Cup. Like, he has been incredible to date. The single best MLS player ever, just based on form. Still to this day, you can watch Inter Miami against Toronto fc and you can watch Messi bossing a game. We got to be okay with that.

[Dan Le Batard]

I see your shirt there. You're wearing a Lionel Messi shirt. And I'm offended by the shirt that Zaslow is wearing. Whatever.

[Zaslow]

I went to school here. Be offended all you want nearby. That's. I don't know how I can. You know what? I'm going to take a picture of the degree that I earn.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I don't.

[Zaslow]

You think I know how to use AI?

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't have a clue.

[Tony]

Yeah, that's what someone.

[Zaslow]

I'm gonna take a picture of the degree I earned from the University of Florida and I'm gonna show it to you. Why are you offended?

[Dan Le Batard]

You're a proud Miami and. And you're somebody who's a voice for Miami sports. And you're wearing a 2025 National Champions University of Florida Gators basketball shirt.

[Stugotz]

Whatever Enemy. Enemy shirt.

[Zaslow]

I'm the best Hurricanes fan you'll ever meet. I went to the University of Florida and I still love the University of Florida.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Is the best University of Miami fan you'll ever meet allowed to be a graduate of the University of Florida?

[Zaslow]

You know what? You're very comfortable saying these things to my face. I hope the next time you see you, Donna Haslam, you say to his

[Dan Le Batard]

face, I have said it to him. I'm not going to say to him every time I'm in his face, but I have said it to him that the whole thing is bogus, that you can't go and be playing at the University of Florida and then be the proudest hurricane.

[Zaslow]

You know what? If I'm on the side of you, Donna Haslam, I'm on the right side.

[Tony]

He says he made a business decision going to Florida. Did you make a business decision going to Santa Fe?

[Zaslow]

Sure.

[Tony]

Sure.

[Dan Le Batard]

You confirmed it. I just heard it confirmed. You just said sure after he asked you the question.

[Zaslow]

No. You don't know what I was going to say. I was probably going to say, surely not Santa Fe.

[Stugotz]

Cc.

[Eddie]

Don't call me Shirley.

[Tony]

He just bugs bunnied you, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

Cc Santa Fe.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Kurt Signetti]

Sfcc.

[Stugotz]

That's Santa Fe Community College. Everybody knows that.

[Zaslow]

Oh, I wouldn't know.

[Dan Le Batard]

The idea that the Gators are still Miami's biggest rival. I ask it with a question mark. I don't know if that's accurate or not because they don't play enough in, in the sports. You would wish to have them play at the very top of championship deciding.

[Tony]

But, but Notre Dame thing is climbing.

[Dan Le Batard]

What is, what is the list? What. What are the University of Miami's biggest rivals? See, we've. We've had this conversation before about fsu. There's not hatred there with FSU in Miami, there's not really hatred. The players are competitive and they have their own rivalries because they went to, you know, they, they played in Florida in high school. Florida State's not a hated Miami rival. And to be a rival at the top of the rival food chain, you have to be hated. There has to be hatred there. And Florida has residual hatred. It's generations ago. It doesn't feel like there's very much recent to choose from in that rivalry. And yet I'd still put it at the top of the list. Do I have it wrong?

[Zaslow]

Florida, Notre Dame, fsu.

[Tony]

I think for the FSU thing, there's a weird mutual respect thing there.

[Greg Cody]

A Little bit.

[Tony]

So I think right now you can make a strong case for Notre Dame. Now Miami occupies this weird place in college football in which they have other rivals, but none of those rivals would point to them and say that is our chief rival.

[Zaslow]

It's the Mad Men elevator.

[Tony]

Yeah, well, I don't think it's. They don't think about us at all. They think about us plenty, especially if you sample social media. And also Miami hasn't been very relevant over the last 20 years. But with the USC rivalry, rivalry on ice for a little bit here because of scheduling with Notre Dame and usc. Jeremiah loves a hand. Takes all season long thinking about Miami. Every interview he says something about Miami. Ruben Baines composition book where he says Notre Dick in it and the games and the fact that both these teams are super relevant, super good right now you look at that November 7th game, prime time in South Bend. If those teams handle their business going into that, you have game of the century type hype because of everything that happened with the playoff. Miami vs. Notre Dame head to head was a discussion all season long. It's got a lot of Jews.

[Dan Le Batard]

Here's why the FSU rivalry doesn't have a lot of juice beyond the hatred. Because a Bobby Bowden was very likable and just had a charisma when they were doing the absurd and spending 14 straight seasons in the top five. They had a coach that Miami fans couldn't help but also like and respect. But then the other thing there that makes it less of a rivalry is Miami won all the games. Like you gotta. The other. The opponent has to win some of the memorable games for it to be a rivalry. And Miami was always winning the game. So you get grandfathered in some Florida losses from the 80s like you get they, they. I think Kar's championship season, they lost the first game of the season to Florida. And so you're. You're literally going back 30 years to grab a rivalry because go ahead and try and remember it. Give me all the games recently that Miami and Florida have played that have conjured anything in the form of hatred.

[Tony]

Hatred.

[Zaslow]

I mean the one this year was pretty good going into this game.

[Tony]

I mean the. What the, the week one game at the Swamp, that was a moment that. That's going to be a huge feather in the cap. And even though that that Florida team wasn't very good, you can point to that team wasn't very good because of what Miami did to them. And that was really Mario Cristobal stating it's different from here on out. Cam Ward immediately became a Heisman contender. They've had a couple of good games with nothing teams. Kaderius, Tony, Jeff, Thomas, Muffin. The punt in a. In a great week zero game in or in Orlando.

[Stugotz]

The.

[Dan Le Batard]

The game you're talking about, Florida is the introduction to. Oh, Cam Ward's good. Yeah, like Cam Ward.

[Tony]

And then henceforth Miami shall be if they keep getting this position. Right.

[Zaslow]

But Otherwise, it was 20 years ago. You had the Sugar Bowl. You had the game in Gainesville after the national championship. You got to go back a while ago.

[Stugotz]

But it's indisputable that at one time and for a long time, Miami and Florida were the rivals. Now, Florida also had fsu, but it was Miami and Florida.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can you guys name a third person other than Udonis and Zaslow, who has both allegiances?

[Eddie]

Because my dad went to University of Florida and the biggest Canes fan hates the Gators.

[Zaslow]

You're going to tell his father that's

[Dan Le Batard]

my dad hates the Gators. He hates the Gators. You don't hate the guys.

[Zaslow]

Okay, well, that's weird.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait.

[Eddie]

Yeah, well, he hates the Gators football team.

[Dan Le Batard]

His father would not wear a University of Florida 2025 National Champion College basketball

[Eddie]

would be caught dead in that shirt.

[Zaslow]

He doesn't support the basketball.

[Eddie]

Wouldn't be caught dead in a Florida Gator shirt.

[Zaslow]

Wow.

[Eddie]

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[Zaslow]

Don LeBatard I've never stepped foot on that campus. If you told me right now your life depends on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just, just, just take a picture.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stugats.

[Zaslow]

I would die. I don't know where it is.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. You mentioned the national championship game being played in Miami and the Indiana football team that just got done with maybe the best college football season ever and probably the most improbable college football season ever. They went to the White House yesterday, but Fernando Mendoza did not go to the White House. I saw there was a an issue of Esquire magazine that did Mavericks in sports and they had Fernando Mendoza as one of the mavericks. And I'm like, that is the opposite of a maverick. Fernando Mendoza is the very opposite I would choose of a maverick in sports.

[Tony]

I mean he's not even the maverick on his own team. Signetti more of a maverick than Fernando Mendoza.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not kidding when I say if you tell me, give me all of sports. What's the opposite of a maverick? He's a goose.

[Greg Cody]

I want to play this game. The opposite of maverick.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, Fernando Mendoza, he's got a LinkedIn.

[Tony]

Who wrote Mavericks don't have LinkedIn. What publication was this?

[Dan Le Batard]

Esquire magazine featured like six people. Look up for me who the six were shams. Was one of them a maverick of journalism? There were six people, but they go to the White House yesterday. Everybody but Fernando Mendoza. Signetti is sitting right or standing right next to Trump. And Trump doesn't seem to know it. But let's play the first clip here from Indiana going. And look at the people behind Trump. You tell me, just looking at the people behind Trump. You go ahead and tell me, based on this visual, is this the greatest college football team ever? Standing behind Donald Trump, starting quarterback Fernando Mendoza.

[Kurt Signetti]

Now, the reason he's not here, he was so nice. He called because he has. Actually, JD Is a big fan of ours. You wouldn't believe it because he didn't show up. I'm not happy, but that's okay. The reason he didn't. Because he's at spring training, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Correct.

[Kurt Signetti]

And I actually said, you really let him. He's got to win. And I think he's going to win pretty early, coach. Right? You think pretty good. Time will tell. He's going to be a good one. A lot of people said they're going to win, but I think he will. No, he's been great. And he said spring training, like his first day or something. I said, you better go there. But he became Indiana's first. Otherwise, if I didn't do that, believe me, I wouldn't have even talked about him. I would have not if. If he was not here for other reasons, like he didn't like Trump or he didn't want to come. I wouldn't even mention him. I'd go through the whole. I'd talk about how great. I wouldn't even mention. Mention the quarterback's name. But he's a great guy, actually.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yammering knob. Let's listen to the most powerful person in our country and perhaps the most corrupt, not know that Signetti is right next to him.

[Kurt Signetti]

Kurt. Who's Kurt? Kurt Signetti. Where is Kurt Signetti? Oh, come here. Come here. Kurt Signetti has turned out to be, I believe. I think he's the coach of the last Decade.

[Dan Le Batard]

This guy leads the league in looking for people who are right next to him.

[Tony]

Last time it was his wife, Signetti.

[Dan Le Batard]

His body language cramped up as soon as Trump grabbed him. I am told the President of the United States does not smell good because of that diaper. So you don't want to be too close to him.

[Greg Cody]

And now. And now we have a clip of Signetti looking for some nil money.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, we'll let you keep the trophy for an nil country. Then

[Kurt Signetti]

I'll do that for nil. Boy, oh, boy, did the court screw us up, huh? It's all right. It's. Whatever happened, it seems to be working for you. And you're gonna.

[Stugotz]

He stayed awake at least. Nil.

[Dan Le Batard]

It is funny that he goes after sleepy Joe at every turn and he's the one actually falling asleep during meetings.

[Stugotz]

The narcoleptic president.

[Tony]

College football just decided, we don't care about your executive order. He did a whole thing, and everyone's like, well, is this a rule now? And everyone just kind of agreed. No. And we just move on.

[Kurt Signetti]

Nil.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tony, do you have for me the six mavericks who Esquire featured? And you tell me no one's gonna do better in terms of being the opposite of a maverick than Fernando Mendoza. But give me the list of people that Esquire magazine decided to fe.

[Eddie]

Profiled? A bunch of people. Fernando Mendoza being top billing. Then we've got Tommy Fleetwood. Is he a maverick? Tommy Fleetwood.

[Greg Cody]

I'm in on this list.

[Stugotz]

Long hair, Sabalenka. Also part of it.

[Eddie]

Marcus Freeman, maverick. Is he a maverick?

[Stugotz]

Guys?

[Eddie]

Yes.

[Stugotz]

No.

[Eddie]

Eileen Goo.

[Stugotz]

Maverick. Okay.

[Tony]

She has a question mark in her last name.

[Eddie]

Just a maverick question mark. And then Shams is the other maverick.

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys have no reaction whatsoever to Shams as a maverick?

[Zaslow]

Why is he a maverick?

[Dan Le Batard]

Who's goo.

[Stugotz]

What do they. How did they explain that? I'm serious. With Fernando, it has to be the Cuban American heritage, which. He was the first of that lineage to win a Heisman. But that doesn't.

[Dan Le Batard]

Doesn't make you a maverick. Just makes you Cuban.

[Stugotz]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

And his personality type, though, we. We would go if you were doing Esquire magazine. Straight laced issue or, you know, a little bit goofy.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Or nerdy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I went goofy. It's less pejorative. Goofy, I think, is less pejorative than nerdy.

[Tony]

I think it's more pejorative.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Which is more negative, goofy or nerdy?

[Tony]

Nerdy gives off. I at least have an outside shot at success because of my brain. Whereas I'm a goof. Not a great outlook for me.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, nerdy gives off intelligence. He's a smart guy.

[Stugotz]

Nerdy's a positive in my opinion.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not a positive.

[Greg Cody]

Definitely not a positive. It's more positive.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's an insult to call someone a nerd.

[Stugotz]

I'm an adult nerd. I mean, I grew up a nerd.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nobody would say you're a nerd.

[Stugotz]

I grew up a nerd.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nerds don't wear pinky rings. Okay, but that was 700 years ago.

[Stugotz]

Okay, fair.

[Dan Le Batard]

I should have seen you at age 15. What? When horses and carriages were roaming the

[Mike]

earth came over, we played cards and nothing inappropriate happened.

[Dan Le Batard]

They played.

[Stugotz]

Thank you.

[Mike]

He was 12 years older than me. And it was a normal friendship between me and Paul Radke. My plutonic older male friend Tony is

[Dan Le Batard]

just learning about Paul Radkey. I wasn't here today. He was out much older.

[Mike]

12 years, that kind of thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

That day, you say. You say that day. Paul Radke is a name that is making Greg Cody laugh. Because for a long time we have made fun of Greg Cody about the fact that he was a young boy and a, a boy or a man 12 years older than him would come and play stratomatic with Greg Cody and he says they were just. He says they were just.

[Stugotz]

Those are good memories. I was about 12 or 14. Ratke was college age or maybe just out, maybe a little bit old.

[Dan Le Batard]

He was 26, 20 year old.

[Mike]

Nice firm chest.

[Stugotz]

Now Ratke was a little heavy. He's my friend. What?

[Dan Le Batard]

I think he's not heavy. He's my brother. I don't think he's not heavy. He's my friend saying is, it ain't heavy.

[Greg Cody]

It's my. Whatever my dad says.

[Stugotz]

I said it to myself on the car today. I said, he ain't heavy. He's my traffic. Because the cars going over the causeway were particularly.

[Greg Cody]

What Is that number? 28 or so?

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know.

[Stugotz]

I can't remember.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are you ready to do your catchphrases? I heard there's some controversy around the. It's. It's the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody. He is counting down his top 50 catchphrases of all time. It has been a successful months long joke. What is the controversy surrounding your catchphrase list? What is the issue?

[Zaslow]

You.

[Stugotz]

It's, it's big. The controversy is that based on quality demand, the catchphrase countdown has suddenly increased from a top 50 to a top 60.

[Dan Le Batard]

What?

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[Stugotz]

And it's controversial.

[Dan Le Batard]

Of course it is. You told us it was a top 50 and we told you. We told you it was. We told you it was something you were making up as you went along and that you weren't going to get the numbers right now you just changed.

[Greg Cody]

He botched it. It to such a degree that there are so many good ones left that we're just pushing.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know that was going to happen, though. That's exactly what we were saying.

[Mike]

Your brain beat me.

[Dan Le Batard]

How did this happen? What was the ruling? What did the committee get together and decide? How did it happen that it got expanded? Now, no one's going to complain about this because more. More catchphrases is great, but we told you this was going to happen. And we told you this was a sloppy list by you.

[Mike]

The others, they all learned from me, right?

[Greg Cody]

No, I looked at all the, the, the, the catchphrases remaining and There was only 14 left, but there were like 20 something good ones.

[Stugotz]

So I'm like, thank you.

[Zaslow]

Let's go.

[Dan Le Batard]

So wait a minute. So how did you do it though? Are there now. Is there now a new list? 50 to 60 or what are you doing?

[Greg Cody]

Everything that's been said is just like, what was 50 is now 60. There were 14 left and now there's 24.

[Dan Le Batard]

So we're not in the top 20?

[Greg Cody]

No, now we're at 23 and 24,

[Dan Le Batard]

20 of the countdown and now we're at 24.

[Greg Cody]

I'm telling you, they're bangers, though. They're just bangers.

[Tony]

There's nobody that's actually upset about this development.

[Dan Le Batard]

Come on, you've got to honor the list.

[Stugotz]

I'm telling you.

[Greg Cody]

I got a peek. I don't know the exact order, but I got a peek of what the top 10 looks like. And it is just banger after.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, Yeti hated it. He's against it.

[Greg Cody]

Yeti thinks that we should just make him live with the world he gave.

[Zaslow]

Should I ask you several times throughout this whole process, have you thought this out? Have you planned out the list? You know that there are 50.

[Kurt Signetti]

You.

[Zaslow]

You kept assuring me that you have it all under control.

[Mike]

Driver comfort is paramount.

[Stugotz]

Wrong. You know, part of the beauty of me is, is a, you know, a bit of serendipity, a bit of.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're the kind of guy.

[Stugotz]

And so the same is true with this list. Okay? Whenever you do a countdown, zas. Bank this information for your future. Whenever you do any sort of a countdown, controversy is good. You want Somebody to say that sucks. That should be lower or that's, wow, I can't believe that's not higher.

[Dan Le Batard]

So wait, so what used to be 50 is now 60. So we've gotten fraudulent rankings up to now. All the number, all the numerical rankings we've gotten up to now are all wrong.

[Greg Cody]

He can give you the updated, like number 60. He can give you the update of whatever.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know, but they're all. Every previous incarnation of this that we have given the American public and internationally has been wrong.

[Greg Cody]

I would say adjusted more than wrong.

[Zaslow]

Adjusted maybe to Greg's credit too. I've never heard of a top 60.

[Stugotz]

Thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, how do we know it's not going to end up being 62? Because he's going to think of two more on his way home because he didn't plan any of this out.

[Stugotz]

Never be 62. It could bump to 65. It would never be a number.

[Greg Cody]

We would obviously go in fives.

[Zaslow]

Dan, here's also the thing. This is a big question. Mine. So you, you have left 10 out, which, which is why you are expanding it from 50 to 60. But the 10 that you left out are automatically like, like they're in the top 23. You're saying top 24.

[Greg Cody]

But I'm telling you, he left bangers out.

[Mike]

Right?

[Greg Cody]

This had to be done, guys.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, it had to be done.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like he says, again, it doesn't have to be done if you're dealing with a responsible person who plans it at the beginning as opposed to just making everything up as he goes along.

[Stugotz]

No, listen, and we're in the sports business. We should know this better than anybody. Rankings always change in. When I was born, everybody, everybody agreed. Babe Ruth, greatest player ever. Not so much now.

[Mike]

Growing up, it was a hot debate. Everyone agreed though. Babe Ruth, that young kid's got a future.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was an argument back then on sports radio. Tris speaker or Babe Ruth.

[Stugotz]

That's right. Lou Gehrig was in the in play telegram.

[Mike]

In your thoughts.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're gonna get to this list and we're gonna get to Luke Thomas. We're gonna do it in the next hour. Cause we have to give plenty of room here for what is an ever expanding list of, of catchphrases. There's no way, if you had to take a guess, there's no way it's going to stay at 60. Right. They're going to be what's going to happen. He's going to think of one more and then he's got to come up with four bullshit ones. Because he just wants it to be. It's not even a 65. Even a round number. 65 is not a round number. I don't know why you're doing this by five.

[Stugotz]

Well, 6060s, a beautiful number.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. But you're going to have to add. Put it on the poll. Is 60 a beautiful number? And you're going to have to add. You know this is going to happen. Right. If you've already added 10 since the last time I saw you, Right now

[Stugotz]

we're committed to 60 for now. And by the way, let the record say Levitard over here was a naysayer. Lebatard never thought I had 50 play a hater.

[Zaslow]

He's right, you know, 50, I had

[Stugotz]

60, that kind of thing. Thank you. Thank you.

[Mike]

We look great today. Look at us. So cute like that old man and up. Up was a movie. It's an animated film. Don't worry about it. Last movie we saw was Swing Vote.

[Dan Le Batard]

He does. He does look like the old man and up though. The old man and upon.

[Mike]

Oh, wait, no, no, the Elton John movie. We saw that.

[Stugotz]

That was all right.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

The old man and up has a bulbous nose like Cody.