Alley Oop 150: Trae Young on the Move?! Peyton Watson Buzz, Deni in Portland & MJ Hate Talk

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Alley Oop 150: Trae Young on the Move?! Peyton Watson Buzz, Deni in Portland & MJ Hate Talk

Date: January 10, 2026

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Overview

Broadcast from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, this 50th "Alley Oop" episode sees Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and crew diving deep into the latest NBA drama and pop-culture moments. The hosts dissect the seismic Trae Young trade, celebrate Deni Avdija’s rise in Portland, talk up under-the-radar contributor Peyton Watson, and gleefully roast some MJ-LeBron era hater-ism in the NBA. Their conversational style is fast, candid, and laced with signature humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Deni Avdija’s Ascension in Portland

• Excitement for Deni: The crew is bullish on Deni Avdija, predicting he could soon be a top 10 player (“I think Deni is going to be a top 10 player in the league.” – A, 01:17).
• Player Comparison: Deni’s unique skillset as a tall point guard (6'9") is likened only to the likes of Jason Tatum, LeBron James, and Luka Dončić:
  • “There's only probably two, three players in the league that fit that comp. Jason Tatum, LeBron and Luka. And that's the list.” – A, 03:11
• Playstyle & Reputation: Deni’s combination of strength and craft at the rim is praised, but there’s also debate on whether he flops for calls:
  • “He go. The way he goes to the rim is with force. He's trying to yam on you.” – A, 04:25
  • “It's not just the Zebras. It's all of the things that he does in order to get to the line.” – A, 03:36
• All-Star Buzz: The hosts agree Deni is a lock for this year’s All-Star game, noting fan votes and media chatter (05:08–05:47).

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2. Trae Young Traded to Washington – Shockwaves & Culture

• Breaking News Reaction: Genuine surprise and amusement at the news Trae Young wants to play for the Washington Wizards:
  • “To me that means he prefers to go somewhere. And the only place that's anywhere is Washington because no one prefers the Wizards.” – A, 06:40
  • “It's a dandata. It's a dino.” – B, 06:46
• Mid-Game Trade Spectacle: Trae is reportedly traded mid-game, with hosts joking about “quad soreness” now being code for "about to be traded" (07:03).
• Trae’s Atlanta Legacy:
  • Hosts deeply respect how Trae embedded himself in Atlanta’s hip hop and social scene:
    • “Trey came to Atlanta willing and ready to be a part of Atlanta. He embraced like, the Migo. When Migo put him on the song Ice Trey flooded.” – B, 09:50
  • Praise for his realness: “He wasn't too big. He dapp off the kids. A real true superstar.” – B, 10:25
• Washington as a Free Agent Destination:
  • Discussion about why top talent avoids D.C.:
    • “But people. Players do not want to go there. And the question that I was asked is why? And what do you. What's your reason?” – A, 11:48
    • “Because they ain't never been to the...conference finals since they won the championship when they were the Bullets and the damn Harlem Globe. Tried to. Just walking around still every now and then losing to the Generals, like, that's why I wouldn't want to go there.” – B, 12:06

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3. Rebranding the Wizards and DMV Basketball Culture

• Need for Identity Refresh:
  • The hosts riff on changing the Wizards' name to reconnect with the city’s real flavor:
    • “We need to make sure that everybody in the NBA knows...JuJu is Chocolate City. So I think we need to rename the Wizards.” – A, 13:26
  • Brainstorming names like "Chocolate City Go Gos" to tie in local music and culture (13:43–14:25).
• DMV as New Destination:
  • Argument that D.C. could be a great spot, similar to how OKC became viable, especially with Trae Young’s urban culture fit (14:25–14:52).

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4. Peyton Watson’s Nugget-Step Up

• Under-the-Radar Praise:
  • Peyton Watson’s emergence in Denver during Jokic’s absence gets a strong shoutout:
    • “The street's supposed to be buzzing about this brother, in the Joker's absence, paying Watson, bro, for them nuggets. Come on now, my boy.” – B, 15:04
  • Comparison with Christian Braun’s contract and impact, with hopes that Denver rewards Peyton (15:24–16:29).
• Potential for a Blessing in Disguise:
  • “If they can stay right here, that gives me a lot of hope for the development of these role players...when Jokic comes back.” – A, 17:18

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5. “Boy, Stop” – Kangaroo Fight & MJ Hate

Australian Kangaroo Fight (18:04–20:06)

• The crew enjoy a viral video of a man brawling with a kangaroo:
  • “Hold on, bro. Why is this kangaroo just in the street? Like, he coming from getting coffee?” – B, 18:44
• Light jokes about the size and fighting technique of kangaroos and man’s survival.
  • “You got a bob and weave on them kangaroos, bruh.” – B, 20:45

Isaiah Thomas Still Hating on Michael Jordan (20:45–25:46)

• Clip Reaction: The show plays a new Isaiah Thomas rant, where he downplays Jordan’s impact, accuses his era of not appreciating LeBron and disses MJ as just “the guy that gave you some shoes and... jewelry.”
  • “To reduce Jordan down to a Jumpman logo and some kicks is absolutely insane. I don't know why that wasn't the part that got aggregated juju, right, bruh?” – A, 23:15
  • “Talking about the man who gave you some kicks. The man who gave you what it feels like to...fly.” – B, 23:42
• Hosts’ Take:
  • They roast Zeke for lingering Dream Team bitterness and disrespect for Jordan’s multifaceted career.
  • "If his impact was just shoes, then how was he able to keep you off the Dream Team?" – A, 24:27
  • “Boy, stop. And that is another episode of the Alley oop.” – B, 25:46

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Deni Avdija’s Resurgence:
  • “He has all of the skills of a guard that's six, five...he can pull up on you from deep and his ability to get to the end of the lane around multiple defenders.” – A, 02:21
• On Trae Young’s Cultural Role in Atlanta:
  • “He ingratiated himself in the culture. He could be at Atlanta Dream Games...You just was a great person, just a part of the city.” – B, 10:13
• On Rebranding Washington:
  • “We need mumbo sauce at every game. We need to reinvigorate the arena.” – A, 14:25

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening & Deni Avdija talk: 00:20–05:47
• Trae Young trade to Washington: 05:47–11:47
• Washington’s Image & Name Brainstorm: 11:47–14:52
• Peyton Watson hype: 15:04–17:36
• Kangaroo fight viral clip: 18:04–20:06
• Isaiah Thomas vs Michael Jordan segment: 20:45–25:46
• Closing inspiration/banter: 26:11–end

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Closing Notes & Tone

Ending on personal encouragement and playful sibling affection, the hosts urge listeners to shake off haters and pursue their goals in 2026. The episode’s unique mix of honest basketball analysis, viral moments, and humorous cultural riffs makes it as entertaining as it is insightful.

“Stop being scared of being disliked by losers. It's on my screensaver.” – A, 26:50

“A hater ain't got nothing to say to you...If you see somebody hating on you, damn them.” – B, 26:36

Catch the next Alley Oop for more irreverent NBA talk, pop-culture ribbing, and classic Le Batard crew banter.

Transcript

[A]

Juju, I gotta start the show.

[B]

Hold up, hold up, hold up. Wait, wait. Happy 50th episode. Whoa.

[A]

Happy 50th.

[C]

So right. Happy 50th episode.

[B]

Come on. I didn't know that. I need to get a trophy or something. How you feeling today, sis?

[A]

Well, I'm a little. I'm a little anxious. By the time this episode comes out, maybe Oregon will be playing against Indiana in the whatever bowl. It's Peach. Peach Bowl. It's in Georgia, right? Didn't go. I almost came through and pulled up and said hey Juju, I'm coming to stay over but I'm too afraid. I want us to just go to the Natty play Miami play our former coach Mario moves crystal ball and you know, try to get this.

[B]

Don't move my boy, man. My. Don't move my boy, bro. Come on. That the people be insecure about the moves, bro. Like maybe they should get rid of.

[A]

Them if they're insecure.

[B]

You right, because he do try this ass out there in that damn green shirt prancing up and down that side one too. All right, you forgiven? I absolve you.

[A]

So I'm a little nervous. Other than that, I'm feeling really good about the Blazers right now. I'm feeling really good about Denny right now. I think Denny is going to be a top 10 player in the league. Let's just go right to it. Ms. Rebecca.

[B]

So tough tonight to defend. It seemed like he was able to get like the traditional three point play every time you guys got within one or two Zebras. Zebras.

[A]

That's what made Denny hard to defend.

[B]

Zebras, they say what makes Denny avia hard to guard, hard to defend. Tyra Eason says the zebras meaning AKA the referee. What you think? Does Danny get the software so he do be flopping his ass off like.

[A]

Listen Danny up close.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, yo, he's impo. He's impossible to defend. He's. I was just thinking about this yesterday. I even put a video out about it. He's 6ft 9.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

He's 215. He has all of the skills of a guard that's six, five even. Like smaller guards, he can pull up on you from deep and his ability to get to the end of the lane around multiple defenders. € step hesis all that. His bag is super deep and then he's 6ft 9. So I don't know who's. He's the same height as Rob Williams. That's what actually made me think about this the other day. Juju is. I saw him and Rob Williams standing next to each other and I'm like, Denny's actually a little taller than Time.

[B]

Time Lord. Right.

[A]

So for him to be the starting point guard at that height.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's only probably two, three players in the league that fit that comp. Jason Tatum, LeBron and Luca. And that's the list. So it's not just the Zebras. It's. It's all of the things that he does in order to get to the line. Do you think the zebras just have Denny at the top of their superstar whistle list? Are we effing joking?

[B]

I mean, but we're not gonna act like my boy Flock City, though. That's what I'm saying. Like, we can't appreciate how good. How good SGA is, but we can also appreciate he be got down. Yeah. I mean, industry. So Flop City daily serving them things in Flop City too. Like on the corner pitching them. You did. And it's like when I see Denny drive to the lane, he gonna try to get the foul more than he gonna try to get.

[A]

No, that's a lie.

[B]

Most times.

[A]

No, that's 50.

[B]

50 at least.

[A]

That's a lie. Juju. I know you don't know.

[B]

You're a damn lie.

[A]

I know you don't like to watch a lot of west coast basketball at 10:30pm at night, but why you think.

[B]

I got these glasses on? Because I keep bags under my eyes? Because I gotta watch the blazers in the 3:30am Facts.

[A]

He go. The way he goes to the rim is with force. He's trying to yam on you. He's trying to. Yes, if he gets hit, he will do the arm flop thing, but he's not going to do that to sacrifice a bucket. He still wants the an one. And so to me, as somebody who's scoring 27 points per game and leads the league in free throw, you score.

[B]

27 points a game yourself.

[A]

No, him.

[C]

You.

[A]

Him, him.

[B]

I thought you. I'm about to say damn.

[A]

No. As someone who scores 27 points a game and leaves the league in free throw attempts, he's doing more than just flopping.

[B]

I feel you. Do you think he's an all Star this year?

[A]

Oh, a hundred percent.

[B]

One hundred percent.

[A]

It's happening. It's happening.

[B]

It's happening. The buzz, man.

[A]

There was a lot of people who were a little reluctant like about a month or two ago, and now the buzz is firmly like a. Like a infestation. Firmly through the ringer. It's firmly through all the basketball media podcasts. I'm listening intently, intently, and everyone's like a. A resounding yes. He was top 10 on Western all star voting from the fans. I think he had like 1.5 million votes already from fans. Show Tel Aviv is showing out right now.

[B]

Another. And. And right. Right now is firmly through the alley oop as well. And another blunder by the damn Wizards. For some reason. Like, I don't know what the Wizards was doing when they traded him, but hey, get well some Wizards. Neither here nor there. It's about to get chilly in Washington. Ice Trey Young is on the move to Washington, bruh. Bruh, where were you Put me in your chair when you got the tweet came down on your phone that Trey Young prefers to go to Washington. What did you think first? I know it's.

[A]

I was sitting in my office chair about to record, and I thought to myself, huh? To me, that means he prefers to go somewhere.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the only place that's anywhere is Washington because no one prefers the Wizards.

[B]

Exactly, Brian. That meant to me, when I saw it, I was like, oh, it's a dandata. It's a dino. Because ain't no way in hell you f to say that into a microphone if the ink ain't already dry on the actual deal.

[A]

Trey Young got traded mid game.

[B]

Yes, sir, you did.

[A]

Which is, you know, the new injury for bounce to be traded is a quad injury. Him and C.J. mullum both had quad soreness, and it was like, no, that's abouts to be traded.

[B]

And Corey Kisberg, too. He had the same quad stuff going on. Look at my boy.

[A]

Yeah, I got my glasses on.

[B]

He got them Jeffrey Dahmer guys on like you got somebody in the kitchen. Hey, this was hard, though. This was hard. Salute to the cameraman for this. Like, showing him walking out one last time, bro. That's hard. If I'm the usher right there, I'm getting that doubt, though.

[A]

Like, how important is that? He gives high fives one last time, they follow his ass down the tunnel, they let him walk past them, and then they just follow him walking through the tunnel.

[B]

Look at this usher right here to the left, right here. She should have got the doubt right here.

[A]

Yeah, she should have.

[B]

She was too nervous. It's all good. We understand. She was the watch on Trey Rich, though. We got. We got to just speak on that one time. Salute to the watch on trade Rich. He ice Trey for sure. You did. Go ahead.

[A]

Yes. I. I thought that Boozy's response And we'll play that in just a second. And I want to get your perspective on juju because you live in the city and. But, like, we could talk a lot about Trey Young as a Hooper, but culturally, in my opinion, Trey Young really was connected to, like, hip hop culture. And a lot of, like, rappers and artists, like, clung the tray as, like, a. Their figurehead for what Atlanta Hawks basketball was. And you could tell in this clip that Boozy was just genuinely just heartbroken by the trade mid game, right?

[B]

Go ahead, Ms. Rebecca. They just traded you. Trade, man. He down there dribbling the basketball with his clothes on. Clothes on? Damn, cuz, not with the clothes on.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Look, Boosie acting like that man got hit with a pump.

[A]

Yes, that's exactly how he came out, bro.

[B]

That man is still a millionaire. Still a multi, multi millionaire on the move to Washington.

[A]

Yo, he acted juju like he got like he caught a case, right? Damn. Like, damn, Yo, Trish just got arrested.

[B]

Damn right, bro. I think what it is, though, too, though, like he was saying earlier what Trey mean to Atlanta. Trey didn't come to Atlanta too big for the city. Trey came to Atlanta willing and ready to be a part of Atlanta. He embraced like, the Migo. When Migo put him on the song Ice Trey flooded. If we run the mouth, call him Joe Button like, you feel me? It was a Joe Button dis. But they threw ice tray in there. He embraced it like, he. And like, over this last summer, he did a song with Quavo in the studio. So it's like Trey ingratiated himself in the culture. He could be at Atlanta Dream Games. You'll see him there on a random Wednesday. He just was a great person, just a part of the city. He wasn't too big. He dapp off the kids. A real true superstar. You did. So I know that he get a bad rap. As far as the media, what they say, teammate wise. But even Jalen Johnson quilled that yesterday. He was like, bro, I don't know what y' all be talking about. That's my dog. That's one of the best teammates I ever had. So Washington getting a good one for however long they gonna have them. They got a good one. Brand Ice Trey. Salute.

[A]

So let's pivot to Washington here, because I had a bunch of people ask me, what is this that are Washington, like, residents? What does this mean? Is Trey good still? Like, should we be happy about this? And, like, basically, I'm like, you know, I don't really know what is going to occur don't think he's going to play many games this season. Feels like Washington wants to lose as many games as possible. They had already went seven and six in the last 13 games, and that was seven games too many wins with CJ McCollum. They're like, yo, we like the three wins that we had, like the 10 wins were starting to get. So. But the end of the conversation shifted to this. Washington, D.C. is a big market.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And nobody outside of the fact that they don't win because there's plenty of places that don't have a winning culture. But people. Players do not want to go there. And the question that I was asked is why? And what do you. What's your reason?

[B]

Because they ain't never been to the. Damn. They ain't been to the conference finals since they won the championship when they were the Bullets and the damn Harlem Globe. Tried to. Just walking around still every now and then losing to the Generals, like, that's why I wouldn't want to go there. I know Chocolate City is a great place to be. Salute. You already know dmv stand up.

[A]

But that's what I'm saying.

[B]

Oh, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

Juju. Exactly. Okay. We're right there. We're locked in. Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

There's. But you can do that in Utah. Utah hasn't won. The Clippers haven't won. There's plenty of places that Orlando hasn't won. Yeah. F. New York hasn't won. Brooklyn hasn't won. Plenty places are like, I'll go to Brooklyn. It's like, you know, you've got. No, but it's. It's Brooklyn. It's New York City. It's like all of that Washington, D.C. is getting too much reputation for government. And I think when the players come into town, they're either at barcode or whatever the replacement for barcode is. And they're probably staying in the government district. But we need to make sure that everybody in the NBA knows what you know, Juju. And what I know. Juju is Chocolate City. So I think we need to rename the Wizards.

[B]

Oh, rename them.

[A]

I want to get your. We need to collab on this. The beginning of the name. We're not using Washington anymore. That sounds too much like Washington state.

[B]

Yeah. Over with.

[A]

It needs to start with Chocolate City.

[B]

Chocolate City. Oh, how about the DMV somethings.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You know what I mean? Because that'll bring the whole Tri State together anyway.

[A]

Yes. Stars or something.

[B]

The DMV players.

[A]

Yes. Or like The Go Gos. We need to lean in. Go Go culture.

[B]

Yes, sir. I like the DMV Go Gos. Hey, get the Washington Bullets on the phone right now. Y' all need to change our name to the DMV Go Gos, bruh. Right down now. Get Slim to get a new Go Go song. Get them boys, pretty girls. Ask them do they smoke my boy. Who's saying that? Pull them out.

[A]

We need mumbo sauce at every game. We need to reinvigorate the around the arena. I have been deep diving into how we can fix this, because if OKC can be a destination, Oklahoma City, right? Then the DMV needs to be. Because the closest thing to Atlanta for Trae Young is going to be Washington.

[B]

D.C. yeah, I mean, it's not gonna.

[A]

Feel like that much of a difference.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. I like that. We need to get on the horn, Mr. Rebecca. We don't know who you need to contact, but you go ahead and lock them in because we didn't spit the 50.50 highway. You did.

[A]

And say, we got the plan.

[B]

We got it. You did. Also moving on to the another person who deserve a little credit. That I don't hear too much. The street's supposed to be buzzing about this brother, in the Joker's absence, paying Watson, bro, for them nuggets. Come on now, my boy.

[A]

Come on now.

[B]

He ain't get paid like Christian Brown got paid. I' ma call him Braun. What you. How you feel about that, Brown and.

[A]

Brian, listen, I want to call him Braun, but because, you know, everybody gets weird. Everybody gets weird. You know, they're like, don't you know it's Brown? I just say Brown, but really, okay, cool. He's a coffee maker, okay? LeBron coffee maker needs to start drip dripping. He needs to, you know, look, my.

[B]

Boy got his money, and I feel like my boy Payne Watson kind of shining in. In. In the Joker's absence. Now, I know that Brown is hurt, you dig? And they got injuries around the. In the, on the board. But even Bruce Brown, huh?

[A]

Didn't he just come back?

[B]

He just got back, you dig? But I'm just saying with your best avail, your best ability, you dig? Like what. What have you done for me lately? And paying Watts, not that he earning a check to me, like, next year he gonna have a bag. Hopefully it's from them boys. Hopefully they. They loyal to him. Because, bro, what I'm seeing from him, nothing but big salutes you got.

[A]

You remember that commercial Juju where it was. It's the joker and Peyton Watson at the pool.

[B]

Yeah, they need.

[A]

Yeah, once he gets his money, they need. He was, like, over at the kitty part of the pool, and Jokic was, like, at the big boy part of the pool. They need to be, like, sitting next to each other at the pool in the next commercial once he's got the money and Peyton Watson's like, nah, nah, bro. I got our lunch. I got lunch. This. He's legit. He's a big kid, too. Like, the thing that people don't realize about Peyton Watson because people aren't really thinking about him that much is is he's like a legit, strong, tall, athletic, explosive wing.

[B]

Yeah, he is. Bright future for my boy.

[A]

D up. And like, Denver has been pretty good in. In Jokic's absence. If they can stay right here, that gives me a lot of hope for the development of these role players who they're going to need in the playoffs when Jokic comes back. Could this be a blessing in disguise, Juju?

[B]

It could be, yeah. Neither here nor there, but. Or maybe it's here and there. I need to stop my neither here nor there so much. I think I just be throwing it in there like there should be there and here. Moving on to a segment that we like to call Boy, Stop.

[C]

All right, Gigi. Well, I have. I feel I have to share this video that you just sent, because I looked at this and I was like, what in God's name? Yeah, so we're gonna do it. Here we go. You know, I guess when you go down under.

[A]

Oh, whoa.

[C]

All puns intended.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

Oh, my God, bruh, you exactly, bro. What the hell is going on? What would you do if you look over there, bro?

[A]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[C]

And I love the very Aussie. Like, Jesus Christ, bro.

[A]

First of allara.

[B]

Hold on, bro. Why is this kangaroo just in the street? Like, he coming from getting coffee? Why are you casually on the sidewalk across the walkway, bruh? Ain't no grass over there.

[A]

Is that a coffee shop? Is it a restaurant? It looks like a restaurant, right?

[B]

Do you know this, man?

[A]

It's. Yeah, he's got beef. He's like. It's ones on site, juju, dude.

[C]

I mean, those kangaroos, man. I mean, like, he swept the leg. Like he Karate kid swept the leg, right? Squared up with him. I mean, like, this is. But then the, like, the kangaroo, like, he's going for a headbutt and a hump. I mean, that is but see right.

[B]

There at the end, though? I don't know. At the end, kangaroo's in trouble. I love Peter, so I hope Peter. Look, I love the kangaroos, but I'm just saying at the end right there, they're like, kangaroo was in little trouble right about here. You feel me? Like, I don't know, bro. That's why they cut the video off. I feel like buddy might have got his legs back on the bundle.

[A]

I. I honestly think the guy kind of was putting up a good fight. He kind of has him locked up like mma.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. I mean, I don't know what I would do in that scenario. Well, damn.

[A]

What?

[B]

Right? Like, stop playing kangaroo. Stop playing, bro. Stop playing. But I'm as. I'm running away for sure.

[A]

That kangaroo is. Is fighting like a human being.

[B]

Yeah, right. He fighting like he nobody from somewhere.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Nah, I don't like what you did. You know what you did.

[C]

You think that guy's 6 foot 5, 9, 5, 10? I mean, that's kangaroos as tall as him. That's what's bananas.

[A]

How tall is an average kangaroo?

[B]

Right? How tall is the average kangaroo?

[A]

I'm looking now, is it.

[B]

Is it muzzy bows, or is it.

[A]

Five foot six with males reaching over six feet tall? They're 600 pounds.

[C]

Jesus.

[B]

Or 200 pounds.

[A]

200 pounds.

[B]

Yeah. You got a bob and weave on them kangaroos, bruh. Alrighty. You know how you grow up sometimes? You just got this hater in high school. You got that one. One person that. It don't matter. What's going on, bro? You not gonna like this. You're not gonna like this guy, brother. Like, this is how Isaiah Thomas is with Michael Jordan, bro. My boy Isaiah Thomas is never gonna get over it. Forget about it. Don't. So quit asking. Did you see this, Trista?

[A]

Before we play the clip, cue up the be smircher, because that's basically what he is. Play that button.

[B]

Go for it.

[D]

Our era is considered to be the golden era.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

This what I don't understand about your era, right? You. You guys are playing with arguably the greatest player to ever play. And excuse me when I say this, but y'. All, y' all treat him like he ain't nothing. And I'm talking.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

Y' all act like. All right, well, y', all, instead of. Instead of puffing y' all era up, y' all go back and say our era was the greatest. Oh, you know, Michael Jordan was the greatest. Nobody could ever be greater than Michael Jordan.

[A]

Right?

[D]

Okay. And then you turn around. But in your era, LeBron James sitting there, he holding every single basketball record. I mean, every single one of them. And you're looking at a Kevin Durant, and you're looking at a Steph Curry. But then when y' all say who the greatest, y' all talk about the guy that gave you some shoes and, you know, gave you some.

[A]

Whoa, hold up. Okay, first of all. First of all, I'm happy bigging up LeBron James, right? And the argument can be made that the man who's been playing for 20 damn years probably is gonna hold every record. That's just what it is. Greatness sustained over a longer period of time. You want to make that comparison all good.

[B]

Some people say sustain greatness. Some people say compiler. But hey, I'm not saying compiler. I'm just saying what some people say. I say sustained greatness.

[A]

But to say, oh, you want to rock with the guy that gave you some shoes? Are you joking me? To reduce Jordan down to a Jumpman logo and some kicks is absolutely insane. I don't know why that wasn't the part that got aggregated juju, right, bruh?

[B]

Come on. Some kicks, you mean you left out some jewelry as well, my brother. You left out a lot of jewelry. Talking about the man who gave you some kicks. The man who gave you what it feels like to. To fly. The man who says, sometimes I want to be like Mike. That was the commercial. Come on, bro. You're playing games. You're hating. I see it on you. It's disgusting.

[A]

It's ugly. And gave you the business.

[B]

Zeke, come on now.

[A]

He gave Isaiah Thomas the business, right?

[B]

Come on. Every up and down the court, bro. He just mad cause he went on the Dream Team, everybody. And we get it, bro. You should have been on the Dream Team. You should have been, bro.

[A]

If his impact was just shoes, then how was he able to keep you off the Dream Team?

[B]

Boom. Look, she said it. That there it is. You did. Because for real, for real, like, what he said about LeBron is not all the way wrong. You did like people do. Be playing with LeBron. Name a little too much. Like, what my boy did ain't great. You did. But at the same time, you put LeBron James rings in the box and you put Michael Jordan's rings in the blocks. This one is clinging a little bit more. I'm not sure what we we talking about. It sounds a lot more noise coming from over this box. So it's like, you got to keep respect on the goat, even if you Gonna put some your cape on and try to get LeBron to help you out, you feel me? You still got to keep respect where it's due, man.

[A]

You gotta go back. These people who discount Michael Jordan have to go back, especially to his defensive possessions over time. To be a two way player of that magnitude over time to basically retire, come back in the middle of the year and still ball out, to have multiple dynasties throughout your career, right? It's just. It's just insane.

[B]

Bryce is saying, man. So a long story short, Isaiah Thomas. Boy, stop.

[A]

Man, the hate is so ugly. Juju.

[B]

Boy, stop. And that is another episode of the Alley oop. Thank y' all so much for joining. As always, my sister, any last words before we get up out of here?

[A]

I love you, Juju. That's pretty much it. I just. That's it. That's all I have.

[B]

I love you too. My sister and everybody out there, man, always be encouraged. Believe in yourself, man. It's a new year. It's time to go get it, man. Put. Let's. Let's stop putting that one thing off. Let's go ahead and do that thing right there, because that thing might be the thing that take you over that hump, bro, as always, you just turned.

[A]

Into Tony Robbins in 2026.

[B]

Oh, yeah, you got to know. As a matter of fact, I got about FOMO for you. Damn. A hater. A hater ain't got nothing to say to you. Like if. If you see somebody hating on you, damn them. If you see somebody, look, go ahead. Go ahead, sis.

[A]

It said I took the thing you put on your story. Juju. Stop being scared of being disliked by losers. It's on my screensaver.

[B]

See? You see what I'm saying? My sister, Tanya Roberts. You dig it? Come on now. I appreciate that. A message to everybody out there. Ain't nobody. If anybody hating on you, guess what? They're a loser. So don't worry about them. Dunk on them. Like Matas Buzales. As always, though, thank you so much to Ms. Rebecca Donahue and my brother, the distinguished Dylan. You got to know. And without y' all out there, the audience, the listening world, who the hell.

[A]

Who the hell are we?

[B]

Come on, man, catch us. The same bat time, the same bat channel. Peace out.