Amin Elhassan RIPS APART Lionel Messi | Hour 3

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Amin Elhassan RIPS APART Lionel Messi | Hour 3
Date: June 22, 2026

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Episode Overview

This hour from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami is a wild ride through NBA trade rumors—focused especially on Giannis Antetokounmpo drama and Jaylen Brown’s uncertain future—before giving way to Amin Elhassan’s unfiltered (and hilarious) World Cup notes and, finally, a chaotic, classic late-show discussion on snakes as pets and internet search results. Sporting irreverence, sharp analysis, and inside jokes, the crew combines deep-dive sports talk with signature silliness.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

1. NBA TRADE DRAMA: GIANNIS, JAYLEN BROWN, AND THE BUCKS’ DILEMMA (01:30–15:50)

• The Trade Rumor Context (01:30–03:35)

  • Dan kicks off the hour by addressing the swirling rumors about Giannis Antetokounmpo leaving the Milwaukee Bucks.
  • Shams Charania's latest appearance intensifies speculation, suggesting a trade is imminent and involves the Boston Celtics offering Jaylen Brown.

• Bucks’ Lack of Interest in Jaylen Brown (03:35–04:27)

  • Amin Elhassan: "The Bucks don’t want Jaylen Brown. They’re enamored by what he could bring, but they’re like, that’s not my job. That’s your job, Brad Stevens." (03:40)
  • Milwaukee is holding out for a huge haul, not just a star-for-star swap.

• Why Brown Isn’t a Rebuild Piece for Milwaukee (04:27–06:39)

  • Jaylen Brown is only marginally younger than Giannis and would put the Bucks in the same mediocre spot—expensive and not truly rebuilding.
  • Dan argues picks and young assets from Miami are a better fit: “You don’t rebuild with a guy who’s making $60 million a season on a team that wasn’t any good.” (05:12)

• What Brown Could Fetch; Pick Value (06:39–09:10)

  • Amin suggests Jaylen Brown could feasibly get three first-round picks, but insists it shouldn’t be Milwaukee’s responsibility to prove that value or find a third team.
  • Dominique Foxworth: "Getting Jaylen Brown is like getting a house to flip, and then realizing you’re out of the market, and you can’t sell it for what you thought." (09:10)
  • Bucks lack cap flexibility and draft picks, further complicating roster construction.

• How the Deadline’s a Mirage (10:38–12:02)

  • The “draft night” deadline is arbitrary and not binding—Bucks can (and perhaps should) wait for the right offer.

• Advice for the Bucks (12:02–13:05)

  • Amin would seek a third team for Brown or take Miami’s deal if Boston won’t play ball.

• Jaylen Brown's League Perception (13:05–14:35)

  • Brown is a “mid-tier superstar”—good enough to consider, but not enough to justify mortgaging everything unless the roster context is perfect.

• Will Brown Even Stay in Boston? (14:35–15:50)

  • Amin draws an analogy to past NBA stars disgruntled by trade talks but returning to their teams (“it’s a business”). Suggests money is a cure-all: “And in the history of our game, I don't—money is pretty—if it's not undefeated, it's damn close.” (15:44)

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2. AMIN’S WORLD CUP OBSERVATIONS (19:36–32:41)

• Broadcast Hot Takes & Alexi Lalas’ Role (19:36–21:09)

  • Amin divides World Cup viewers: “The world is divided on whether Alexi Lalas is terrible and should be off the broadcast… or if he should stay so Zlatan and Titi can keep making fun of him.” (19:44)
  • Calls for more on-air roasting of Lalas for comedic value.

• Pronunciation Pride and Balogun’s Origins (21:09–22:52)

  • Amin praises correct pronunciation of ethnic names, highlighting U.S. forward Folarin Balogun and his Nigerian-American-British backstory.

• The "White Rodney" Story (23:10–24:21)

  • Amin recounts hilariously running into “White Rodney Terrell” (an American Airlines employee, whose very name cracks up the cast), giving the “blackest name for a white person ever” its due.
  • Amin: "Sorry, Mrs. Zaslow, you have been usurped. There is a new blackest name for a white person ever, and it's Rodney Terrell." (24:05)

• Messi-Trolling & Old School Soccer Takes (27:39–29:05)

  • Amin mocks Lionel Messi’s World Cup career: “Oh, Messi, Messi, Messi. Shut up. Go get another needle in you.” (27:43)
  • Argues Eusebio (not Ronaldo) is the greatest Portuguese player ever, defends Maradona over Messi for Argentina.

• Brazilian Brilliance, Mbappé’s Destiny (29:15–29:52)

  • Predicts Kylian Mbappé will soon surpass all World Cup scoring records.

• "Back In My Day" Soccer Observations (30:35–31:49)

  • Old-school complaint about modern offside reviews: “If you didn’t catch it in real time, tough luck. It’s a goal. We gotta stop with this give-me-10-minutes-I’ll-figure-out-whether-it’s-an-offside.” (30:37)
  • Compares to hypothetical NBA scenarios for laughs.

• Argentina vs. Austria Shade (32:32–32:41)

  • Ends with a barbed political joke: “Argentina could go to hell. Those are the World Cup observations.” (32:37)

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3. Other Notable Conversations and Moments

• Dusty May’s Surprise Move (36:18–37:14)

  • Dusty May leaves Michigan for the Dallas Mavericks; Amin jokes about coaches’ loyalty: "He spoke like he was Mr. Michigan himself. J. Michigan Frog. Right. The way he was talking about being a Michigan man. And months later—he’s gone." (36:19)

• Google Your Own Name Segment (37:23–39:15)

  • Crew googles their names, cracks up over “film director” autocomplete for Amin, net worth estimates, and made-up nicknames (“Cooper City Rattlesnake”).

• “Snake Kid” Tangent (39:15–43:10)

  • The panel riffs on childhood pets, sharing stories involving pet snakes, with Dominique Foxworth drily observing: “I lived across the street from a snake kid. Didn’t like him.” (41:30)
  • Humorous musing on whether snakes as pets are sizing you up “to see if they can eat all your body.” (43:03)

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MEMORABLE QUOTES

• On Jaylen Brown’s value:
  “Jaylen Brown just in essence represents a risk. It’s not that he’s not a great player, it’s just, hey, we’re not in a place to be in a relationship right now.” – Amin Elhassan, (04:30)

• On trade logic:
  “You don’t rebuild with a guy who’s making $60 million a season on a team that wasn’t any good.” – Dan Le Batard, (05:12)

• On player perception:
  "There are players where you say, ‘I don’t care… I’m bringing them over.’ Then there are others where it’s, ‘Wait a second… I’m not quite ready to be in a relationship with you.’" – Amin Elhassan, (13:05)

• On Alexi Lalas:
  “No, leave him there. Let them roast him every opportunity.” – Amin Elhassan, (20:21)

• On Messi:
  “Oh, Messi, Messi, Messi. Shut up. Go get another needle in you.” – Amin Elhassan, (27:43)

• On old-school soccer officiating:
  “If you didn’t catch it in real time, tough luck… Can you imagine that in the NBA?... He makes a shot and we’re like, did he step out of bounds? So hold on. You guys keep playing. I’ll figure out.” – Amin Elhassan, (30:37)

• On “White Rodney Terrell”:
  “There is a new blackest name for a white person ever, and it’s Rodney Terrell.” – Amin Elhassan, (24:05)

• Snake kids:
  “I lived across the street from a snake kid. Didn’t like him.” – Dominique Foxworth, (41:30)
  "It just seems like the snake is perpetually trying to kill you...The dog likes you. The snake is like, 'How can I kill this person?'" – Dominique Foxworth, (42:19)

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TIMESTAMPS FOR IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

• 01:30 — Dan throws to Amin and begins the Giannis/Jaylen Brown trade conversation
• 03:35 — Amin on Milwaukee’s stance towards Jaylen Brown
• 09:10 — Dominique Foxworth’s “house to flip” analogy
• 12:02 — Amin: What should the Bucks actually do?
• 19:36 — Amin’s World Cup observations begin
• 21:09 — Balogun name/pronunciation discussion
• 23:10 — “White Rodney” follow-up story
• 27:39 — Amin tears into Messi
• 30:35 — “Back In My Day” soccer officiating rant
• 32:32 — Amin’s Argentina/Austria punchline
• 36:18 — Dusty May leaves Michigan for Dallas Mavericks
• 39:15 — Google results and snake kid tangent

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TONE & STYLE

• Sports nerd irreverence: analytical, passionate, sarcastic, always playful.
• Amin’s rants are equal parts funny and fiercely opinionated.
• No sacred cows; everyone, even Messi, is fair game for zingers.
• Signature Dan Le Batard Show blend: deep-dive sports talk mixed with laughter, pop culture, and running gags.

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SUMMARY

For fans of NBA intrigue and international soccer—especially those who love their analysis with a heavy dose of side-eye and hilarity—this hour is a showcase for Amin Elhassan’s encyclopedic knowledge and roastmaster energy. The crew debates the logic of blockbuster NBA trades (and why cap space & picks matter more than fans want to believe), then gives the floor to a soccer “state of the union” filled with personal stories, classic gripes, and roasting of (almost) everyone in the beautiful game. The episode closes with vintage show chaos: Google searches, snake-phobia, and oddball pet stories bring it home.

As always, sports talk is just the starting point—a portal into the wild, weird, wonderful world of the Dan Le Batard Show.

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Transcript

[Amin Elhassan]

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[Greg Cody]

I'm getting there, man. Between my age and sitting next to Levitard hacking. But by the way, how much money does LeBatard owe the. You know, the fine bucket for all that hacking?

[Dan Le Batard]

He that's very fair question. That was what, $560 based off the amount of coughs he had?

[Greg Cody]

That's about what I was thinking.

[Tony Reali]

Feel right?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. Let's round it up to. Let's just make it 500. Okay.

[Tony Reali]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

Rounding down.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, we don't want to penalize a sick man too much, but he does owe the money.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm just worried he's going to kill you. Like that sounded bad. We've sent the sick man home. All right. And hopefully I'll be back tomorrow. He sounded rough, so still got a lot to get to and we keep getting news coming out. If you're watching if you're following the wire, everybody knows the wires. Twitter. Twitter's the wire. All right, if you're following the wire or you're checking out on television, the hot story right now, of course, that it seems like the Giannis Antetokounmpo trade sweepstakes is, is coming to a head. So let's bring aboard our pal Amin Alhassan Amin. It feels like things have gotten serious now because Shams Charania, he is now showed up. He hasn't been anywhere over the last few days. You got all the other reporters who are doing their thing, showing the reports and Shams, who was all over Giannis stuff throughout the season. Doc Rivers got very mad at him. So Shams certainly seems plugged in in Milwaukee now. He finally showed up on get up just moments ago or first take, and he straight up said, like, this thing, this thing's about to go down. So, I mean, what do we believe here? And if the Celtics are in fact offering Jaylen Brown, which it appears that they are, it's out there. Do the Miami Heat still have any kind of a chance?

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. So I talked to Jim Ozarkski, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel yesterday. The thing, the prevailing belief is the Bucks don't want Jaylen Brown. They're enamored by what Jalen Brown could bring, but they're like, that's not my job. That's your job, Brad Stevens. Your job is to find a taker for Jaylen Brown and to bring me this massive haul, and then I will accept. But it's not my job to take the thing that you're sending me and then turn it into the things that I actually want. And in that regard, that's kind of where Milwaukee is. This deadline, this whole thing, it's all self imposed. There is no actual deadline. They cannot trade them by tomorrow or Wednesday or Thursday or Friday or next week or next month or even all the way up to February. They don't have to do anything. And so they've been pretty adamant that they're going to hold out for what they want in the form that they want it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why would they not want to keep Jaylen Brown, Zaz?

[Amin Elhassan]

I mean, the team's not going anywhere again, you guys talked about all morning long. But I think we can all accept that Giannis is a superior player. And with Giannis in the lineup, they were barely 500. This team is not equipped to be competitive. Not now, not for a while. They need a reset. They need a lot of options, a lot of assets coming back so they can Restart this thing and, and build it. Right. And when you talk about Jalen Brown, he's only like two years younger than Giannis. So you really just put yourself in the same situation with a lesser player in terms of we still have to build, we still have to figure something out, and we still have to figure out if we need to pay him a lot of money moving forward. And unlike Giannis, he does not have the goodwill of, you won a championship in this city, you've created roots in this cities. So Jaylen Brown just in essence represents a risk. It's not that he's not a great player, it's just, hey, we're not in a place to be in a relationship right now.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, so this is exactly what I've been saying for the last few weeks. As far as why Milwaukee would not want Jalen Brown, it's for a couple reasons. Number one, like you said, you know, they were not a good team with Giannis, who is better than Jalen Brown. So why would they then want to replace Giannis with Jalen Brown? Because they're also. We also have to assume if Boston's going to trade Jaylen Brown to Milwaukee, Boston's not also giving first round picks. I mean, maybe they give this year's first round pick, but it's not going to be multiple first round picks that you're going to attach to Jaylen Brown. And then on top of that, if Milwaukee is going to rebuild, which is what you trade Giannis for, like you, you trade away all your picks for training Drew Holiday and for Damian Lillard, who you're still paying. If you're going to trade Giannis, you need to rebuild the team. You don't rebuild with a guy who's making $60 million a season on a team that wasn't any good. So with, with that aside, I'm still going to make the case Miami's offer is better. Miami's going to offer multiple first round picks and they're also offering a couple of young players potentially who are cost control. Kello Ware, maybe It's Jaime Hawkez Jr. So, like, I mean, am I crazy for saying that even if Boston is offering Jaylen Brown, the eats offer is still better?

[Amin Elhassan]

Again, I think you have to consider what Jaylen Brown would fetch on the market. And, and I think you could argue that in theory at least, I could probably get a lot more, a lot better for Jaylen Brown.

[Dan Le Batard]

Get more than three first round picks for Jaylen Brown?

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, maybe. I mean, that's not, that's not out of the question, well, again, Desmond Bain went for whatever, right? And again, I don't want to fall into the Dan lebatar trap of thinking that this is somehow like the exchange system at the airport where it's like, I have $1, how many, you know, yen or how many? It doesn't work that way. Just because someone did a transaction over here and gave up a bunch of picks does not mean it's universal. But it's not out of the question to believe that I can get three first round picks for a dude in his prime who's a Finals MVP in Eastern Conference. Finals mvp, a finalist for MVP in a regular season, a guy who's shown that, hey, he can carry a team to 50 plus wins, right? So, like, it's not crazy, but it's just Milwaukee saying, that's not my job. That's your job. Brad Stevens and Boston to go out and find out what he's worth and then come back with that.

[Dan Le Batard]

But it seems as though, at least according to Shams here, that that's not what's going to happen. That, like, if this trade is made, Jaylen Brown will be a Milwaukee buck. So if that's the case, like, this just seems to be Milwaukee having to decide between, are we willing to accept this trade and then move on and do something like that later under our control, either at this deadline or the following off season and just tread water? Or do we want to make this move with the Heat? And, and like you said, several moves can be made. Like, if you believe all the other reporting that's been out there, Detroit's interested in Tyler Herro. LA is interested in K, where those guys can be moved later in the offseason and turn this into a bigger trade potentially.

[Tony Reali]

No.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. And I think the interesting thing to remember is that the Bucks don't have any picks coming in for the foreseeable future. They owe a pick in 2027, they owe a. A swap in 2028, they owe a pick in 2029. So like, they've got picks going out and they don't have picks going in. So even if we can agree that, hey, I think I'd rather have Jalen Brown than Tyler Hero and killer, where. And. And the band of merry men that, that come along with that, that is exists in a vacuum, meaning, wait a second, I still don't have an avenue to improve my team on the cheap, which is what picks are all about. It's not just like, oh, this guy could become the next Wemby. It's hey, this is how you fill out a roster with people who are good but aren't getting paid market value.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I mean, it feels like Milwaukee getting Jaylen Brown would be like getting a house to flip it, but then you realize you're of the market and you can't really sell it for what you thought you could sell it for. And then you're like, what do we do with this? And you want somebody else to sell it for a distressed price and not

[Tony Reali]

for you to do it.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And it feels like if they get. If the deal is just Jaylen Brown and Milwaukee, they're going to be a 43 win team in the east and it's going to be the same thing that they were last year with just a different leading man. So, like, what, what. Why is that deal making sense for them?

[Amin Elhassan]

There's. Because they're still. You're right, Tony. They're still in the same spot. I don't have picks.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't.

[Amin Elhassan]

I opex and I still have Damian Lillard's dead money on the cap. So I don't really have a lot of, you know, their money isn't awful, but it's also, it's not like, oh, we have a ton of cap space. So you're telling me, hold on. I, I can't. I don't have the flexibility to sign people. I don't have picks to add good people for cheap. And if we're talking about trades, who am I, tra, Kyle Kuzma or Bobby Portis? Which one of those guys is going to bring me back the type of talent I need to be successful. But with Jaylen Brown, again, this is not a knock on Jaylen Brown. I think he's a great player. I think he can be the centerpiece of a team that wins 55, 60 games, goes deep in the playoffs, depending on what his supporting cast is. We, we just saw with the Knicks good on supporting cast. Maybe you could win with Jaylen Brown as your number one guy the whole time and not like what it was a couple years ago. But that involves being able to build something around him. And the reality is Milwaukee does not have the tools to build around someone. If they did, they just keep honest

[Dan Le Batard]

and build around them.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Right.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, we've been assuming, based on what the Bucs themselves said, we've all been assuming, I think that a deal's going to happen on draft night or later today or what have you. I'm very much getting the impression from you that you think it's a likelihood that it's not going to be done tomorrow.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, Greg, I mean, they, the only reason why we've had this date, this, these, you know, Tuesday or Wednesday in mind is because that's what they said. They said we're going to get it done before the draft.

[Greg Cody]

So what changes?

[Amin Elhassan]

I mean, what changed? In what regard? Because that's. Well, I'm not saying anything has changed.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. But being able to use these picks this year, you know, putting something in front of your fans immediately after trading away your star player is pretty important.

[Amin Elhassan]

Sure, sure. Unless there's another deal that's even better that involves picks that are not this year, which is totally believable. Could happen. My point is this, this isn't like a real deadline where, hey, after this date you can't make transactions. This is them just saying, I'm going to get this done by Tuesday and we're taking their word for it. But they, they can change their mind. They might have not even been telling the truth the whole time. Maybe they, they had them like they were trying to do that to kind of coax people to get better offers in, in the short term. Maybe that conversation has started. Maybe they'll extend the talks. All I'm saying is you can't take their word for it as if it's by law. It has to happen by tomorrow. They, they, they have the ability at any point to change their mind if they don't think like they're getting the deal that they want.

[Tony Reali]

I mean, if the Bucks called you today and asked you to advise them, you're the consultant, what's the decision you would tell them to make?

[Amin Elhassan]

I would probably say, hey, let's work with Boston to find a third team because I think a Jaylen Brown package could be enormous. Right. For. In the right situation. The only way I say we do the Miami deal is if they tell me if Boston's like, not take it or leave it.

[Tony Reali]

Right.

[Amin Elhassan]

He's your, he's your problem, basically. You figure it out. If that's the attitude, then all right, I'm gonna.

[Tony Reali]

As we, as we. As I listen to you, I keep hearing this. Like, obviously we all see Jaylen Brown as a great player who can be high in the MVP numbers and be on a great team, all that stuff. Like, he's a talented player that is worth considering building around, but it doesn't feel like he's being treated in that way. Like, is, is it possible that he find that he falls in this, like this mid range place where it's like he's a superstar player, but doesn't feel like teams are clamoring to give up the amount of picks that you would want to make him the centerpiece.

[Amin Elhassan]

So there are. I think is. There's levels, right? There are players where you say, I don't care. I don't care what my home life is. Like, I'm bringing them over, right? Yeah, you're coming over my house, right? And then there are others where it's like, wait a second. Okay, Right now I'm kind of sleeping on the couch. I. I'm not quite ready to be in a relationship with you. Like you would. It just wouldn't work out. And so I think Jaylen Brown is of the latter. It's. He's not. You know, if it was Victor Emanyama, we'd be like, I don't give a damn. I'm homeless. You're going to. You want to go out with me? Let's go out, right? Versus Jaylen Brown. I'm like, well, let me make sure, like, the house is clean and all that. So, you know, I can at least kind of guarantee we've got some sort of Runway here. And so that's from the perspective of, like, the league, right? Who would be a taker? Milwaukee can't be a taker because they're just not in that situation. But there might. Portland is an example. Portland could be a taker. Maybe Portland gets in and say, yeah, no, we're ready. We're ready. We have a supporting cast. We have the ability to surround him with the talent that he needs to be competitive right away. And as a result, we'll be willing to pay an extension that is very lucrative starting, you know, in a year or so. So that's the problem. If you're not ready, then it just. He's not good enough to justify paying him all the money, going all in and then not having any avenue to kind of give him the pieces that he needs in order to be successful.

[Dan Le Batard]

At this point, though, I mean, Jaylen, like, Jaylen Brown's not going to be on the Celtics at the start of next season. Jaylen strikes me as a guy who is. Is not going to take kindly to this deal falling apart. And, hey, we'll see. A training camp.

[Amin Elhassan]

In theory, yes, but I remember when Kobe Bryant told a 16 year old with a cell phone cam that he wanted to get traded because the Lakers wouldn't trade Andrew Bynum for Jason Kidd or something.

[Dan Le Batard]

But in that case, Colby was the guy calling the shots. Like, Colby was the one saying, I want out. Jaylen Brown doesn't necessarily want out.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, I mean, I'm just saying that guys can be in their feelings and then be out of their feelings. Like, it's. That's just normal. It is. As. As much as I hate to agree with Dan, it's a business. And at some point, I can be. I can feel disrespected in that way. And then I come back. And by the way, Jason tatum still isn't 100%. I can still prove I'm a better player, which I truly believe. He thinks that. That he's a better player than Jason Tatum. He. He has an opportunity to go out there and prove it immediately. And, you know, you got. You guys don't respect me, I will make you respect me. He has that opportunity in front of him. And again, also the other part of this is the Celtics can offer him this massive extension. And in the history of our game, I don't. Money is pretty. If it's not undefeated, it's damn close.

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[Jeremy Schaap]

Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks?

[Dominique Foxworth]

I know it well. It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Yeah, you usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo.

[Dan Le Batard]

Walking like this.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It has that effect on people.

[Jeremy Schaap]

It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering.

[Dan Le Batard]

Keep it Cuervo.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Keep it Cuervo, baby.

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[Dan Le Batard]

How you love that cat phrase. Bad news for opposing teams in the Triple A. Jonathan Sasslo smiles till the Bloods are clutch again. Clutch again. Clutch again. This is the Dan Levatar Show. Amin, it is your time to shine. Let's get to your World cup observations. It is time for. I mean, to share his World cup game notes. No one in the media will tell

[Amin Elhassan]

you what happened better than my boy. I mean, World cup observations is brought to you. You buy Miller Light Legendary moments. Start with the light. You catch what Dan had? I know it's contagious, guys, because Dan's not here. The World cup is usually a time for peace. World cup is usually a time to bring people together. Fortunately, the World cup sometimes brings a dividend. Right now, the world is divided on whether Alexi Lawless is terrible and needs to be off the broadcast with Zlatan and tt or is Alexi Lawless terrible and needs to be on the Broadcast with Zlatan and Titi so they can keep making fun of him. I don't know. These people, like, get him off. I'm like, no, leave him there. Let them roast him every opportunity. You guys see this when they're messing around there. They're juggling the ball and pass it back and forth. And Thierry acts like he's going to pass it to.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

And Lalas is so ready to receive. And he goes, oh, there's a smile on TT's face, man, I love it. I'm like, don't stop. Keep it going. Let's keep having a lot of time. Do lie detector tests and then have to defend the results in front of Alexi. Let's have him call Alexi an ignorant person because he doesn't know the difference between arrogance and confidence. I want all this all the time. Non stop Turkey. Excuse me, Turkey.

[Tony Reali]

Oh.

[Amin Elhassan]

If you're gonna insist I call you by a certain name, you gotta score. Can we agree to that? Like, you can't. You can't go over the World Cup. And then my name is 58. Speaking of names, shout out to Akbar Bajamila for pointing out that U.S. ford Folarin Balogun's name is not pronounced Baligan. How about that? We're gonna name. We're gonna pronounce the ethnic names the way they were meant to be pronounced and not, oh, I don't know, Americanize them with a little hard K sound at the end of their name. I'm just using an example. Random hypothetical. You guys know about Balogun's story, by the way? This proud American. Y' all know about this?

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't think so.

[Amin Elhassan]

You don't?

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know. I'm not sure why I tell Greg.

[Amin Elhassan]

So his. His name is the reason why Akbar is correcting. Because Akbar's of Nigerian descent and so is Folarin. Falarin is a Nigerian son of two Nigerians parents who conceived him. And he was born in New York City. When they were on vacation, they were on vacation, and his mom. The airline wouldn't let his mom get on the plane to fly home to England, where they live, because they felt like it was a health risk. So they had to stay. She ends up having the baby here. They end up going back to England. He lives in England. He grows up in England. He's an easy English kid. He's American of Nigerian descent. And then it's like, wait a second, though. But you were born in Brooklyn. I like, let me see that passport, buddy. And that's how he's on the American.

[Dan Le Batard]

I like it. I always wonder about that. Like, if you're on vacation and you probably shouldn't be traveling if you're that pregnant. But if you're on vacation and you have the baby in a different country, like the babies of that, you know,

[Tony Reali]

nationality, different rules for different places. Not everywhere operates that way. We do, though.

[Amin Elhassan]

I saw White Rodney again. Oh, Dominique, you missed this story. This is an update to a story I told probably about a year or so ago. I was at the airport, and an American Airlines employee named Rodney helped me out, and I was. I was confused. I was like, but he's white. And so I came on the show and I said, I met a white Rodney. And I did a whole bit on it. And apparently one of his co workers listens to the show. He showed it to him, like, oh, my God, is so. The other day, I'm flying, and who should I encounter but white Rodney? And he says, I heard what you said about me. So he pulls out his driver's license, and he shows me his name is, in fact, Rodney. That's not why I'm giving you the update. The update is his middle name, Terrell.

[Dan Le Batard]

No way.

[Amin Elhassan]

White Rodney Terrell White.

[Greg Cody]

Wow.

[Amin Elhassan]

If I hadn't seen the actual physical ID in front of me, I wouldn't believe it. Sorry, Mrs. Zaslow, you have been usurped. There is a new blackest name for a white person ever, and it's Rodney Terrell.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, how many times has someone said to you when they ran into you like that? I heard what you said about me.

[Amin Elhassan]

Not that often, no. Yeah, and he didn't say it antagonistically. He was having the time of his life.

[Jeremy Schaap]

White Rodney.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It was Austin Rivers, right?

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, yeah. Well, Austin Rivers didn't run into me and say, I heard what you said about me. Oh, black Austin Rivers, a long time ago, like, said, oh, what have I done to you? And then years later, wants to talk in the. In the Instagram comments. Didn't have that same energy in person. That's all I'm saying. But, yeah, I heard what you said about me. No, not too often. I'm there. I'm available. I've made myself available to people that I've said things about. They didn't feel the need to react or. Or react as loudly as they wanted to. So, whatever. Speaking of whatever messy, dirty player got a red card, maybe he'll earn it today. I think I've been ostracized from Mike Ryan's soccer chat. What Happened after educating them about the history of the beautiful game, including how the Portuguese have propped up Cristiano Ronaldo in order to facilitate the erasure of Euio, the true greatest player in Portuguese history, who was black. I was so passionate my conversation, I caused someone to leave the chat. I later learned it was a guy who's doing play by play for this World Cup. I don't care. The truth is on my side. And Chris Whittingham and. And Mike Ride and all these guys who started watching soccer in, like, 2007 can kiss my ass.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are they mad at you now? Like, you, you, you. They lost a friend because of you.

[Amin Elhassan]

So it all started. Actually, it started not with that conversation. It started with a conversation about Brazil being awesome, because they were. I was like, oh, this is incredible. I'm watching the Brazil game. I'm like, yeah, I'm in the chat. This is amazing. And everyone's like, oh, now you're. What's so proud to be about? I'm like, I had to listen to you guys talk about the USA gonna win the World Cup. I can't even support my team. And so then it turned into like, there go. There go Eusebio, the greatest Portuguese player ever. I wonder why they want Cristiano Ronaldo to be the greatest one ever, huh? Maybe it's because it fits their preconceived notions about what it means to be Portuguese. Well, guess what? When you colonize a bunch of places and enslave people and then make them speak your language and all that, you might have some trickleback. Just going to throw that out there. But, yeah, they're all upset. And so I'm like, you know what? The gloves are off. And I told Mike Ryan, I didn't ask to be in this chat, by the way. Did not ask to be in that chat.

[Greg Cody]

Wow.

[Amin Elhassan]

He added me to the chat.

[Greg Cody]

Wow.

[Amin Elhassan]

And I said, this is your fault. I texted him privately, this is your fault.

[Tony Reali]

Wow.

[Amin Elhassan]

You don't know how crazy I am because I can be jokey and laughing on the show. The world. You got anyone's like, oh, me lost this on Levitar show. I promise, you guys have never seen me lose my. The group chat. They saw me lose my wow. Because I care about this in a way that none of them do. Pele was 17 years old dicking down the world in the 1958 World Cup.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is how they describe it. Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, messy, messy, messy. Shut up. Go get another needle in you.

[Greg Cody]

Sheesh.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm not growing well enough. Yeah, okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's your messy.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's my messy. I'm not growing well enough.

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[Amin Elhassan]

Give me needle. That's what that guy's legacy is. My guy. 17 years old against grown men, making them look stupid. Your guy was a loser on the World cup stage until four years ago. Said he didn't want to play anymore for the national team. That's your guy. Unbelievable. And Cristiano Ronaldo, just in case you think I'm a Ronaldo's better? No. Eusebio is the best. Just like Maradona is the best Argentine player ever. Eusebio is the best Portuguese player ever. And I might be compelled to say Luis Figo's number two if you want me to go crazy here. But I know a lot of people are like, who's Luis Figo? Because y' all started watching when they started putting games on Paramount. Plus, know your history. Speaking of what else is on my side? God. Oh, cuz. How can you watch Brazil play and not feel chosen? The chat had the gall to pray and pray on our downfall. Oh, maybe they're not going to make it out of the group. Shut up. Chat garbage.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know about those Brazilian fans? Yeah, Good fans.

[Amin Elhassan]

Know a lot about the Brazilian.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good.

[Amin Elhassan]

You know what those Cabo Verde fans.

[Dan Le Batard]

I do. Good fans.

[Amin Elhassan]

How about that?

[Greg Cody]

Yep.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's the feel good story now.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay.

[Amin Elhassan]

Was Algeria until they lost. Now the feel good story. Cabo Verde. All right. Yes, man. Speaking of gall. Because they had the gall to pray for my downfall. Mbappe is going to shatter any World cup record. I know. Messi's like a goal where he just tied, you know, for the most goal scored in World Cup. Don't worry, buddy. Don't. Don't get too comfortable. Rent. Don't buy if Bape's coming. He might get at this tournament. He might get that today, by the way. Ridiculous. What else is happening today?

[Tony Reali]

This is amazing.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, by the end of it, we'll all have witnessed a lady and not believed it. Or as they say in Australia, Senegal, Norway. Senegal, Norway, Norway, Norway. I can't do it. I can't do it. No, guys, hold on. It's a hydration break. Hold on. Hold on. Hydration break. This hydration break is brought to you by Circuit City. For all your home electronic needs, go to Circuit City.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hydration break over. Okay.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

Time for another edition of the show. Within the show. Within the show. That's right. It's back in my day. World cup observations edition on the Dan Lebatard Show. Back in my day, we called offsides in Real time pass the ball. The guy's behind the last defender. Guy on the side, which we call the lineman. Not a referee. Assistant referee. He's called a lineman because he's on the line. He had a flag. He raised the flag. You're offside. We stop, we go the other way. Now we're letting the guy play it out, and he's scoring and he's celebrating, and we're getting crowd shots, and we're getting the whole team dog piling. And the score ticker updates 1 0. And then someone's like, I'm actually. He was offside. No, if you didn't catch it in real time, tough luck. It's a goal. We gotta stop with this whole. Give me 10 minutes, I'll figure out whether it's an offside or not. Can you imagine that in the NBA? Oh, he stepped out of bounds, but he makes a shot and we're like, did he step out of bounds? So hold on. You guys keep playing. I'll figure out. He's might have stepped out of him.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, it literally happened to Max.

[Tony Reali]

Yep.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yep. We'll never forget. Cost the Heat in Eastern Conference championship, probably a title.

[Amin Elhassan]

All right, well, that's stupid, too. Speaking of stupid. Speaking of stupid, Turkey and Ecuador should have to play a game against one another. And if they can't score, then they. They can't go home. Both these teams, like, I don't think they understand the aim of the game is to get it the goal. Not at the goal, not over the goal, not the side of the goal. Definitely not pass that 700 times and then not shoot score. Call it the Stormtrooper bowl because they keep missing shots. There's another bowl game going down today. Austria versus Argentina. I wonder what they have in common.

[Greg Cody]

Uh oh.

[Dan Le Batard]

What uh oh?

[Amin Elhassan]

Uh oh. Argentina could go to hell. Those are the World cup observations.

[Dan Le Batard]

Very good.

[Amin Elhassan]

You guys didn't get it. Someone's going to get it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you, Amin.

[Amin Elhassan]

I got Amin.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you, Amin.

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Amin Elhassan]

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[Amin Elhassan]

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[Amin Elhassan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Tony Reali]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Jeremy Schaap]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Jeremy Schaap]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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Let you go. I mean, we do want to get your thoughts, though. Big news of the day so far in the NBA is actually not Giannis Antetokounmpo. That trade has not happened yet. Although Aaron Wiggins there was. That's right. There was breaking news earlier that the trade is going to happen before the draft tomorrow. Okay, fine. But Dusty May leaving Michigan to be the new head coach with the Dallas Mavericks. Should we be surprised with this? I mean, it feels pretty shocking.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's shocking because he came on our show and told us about how Michigan was the last job he's ever going to have. Like he spoke. So you would have thought this man was Mr. Michigan himself. J. Michigan Frog. Right. The way he was talking about being a Michigan man. And months later, months later, he's gone. Now I get why. That's a good opportunity, man. That's the Dallas Mavericks. They've got a young superstar in the making in Cooper Flag. They've got one of the best architects of teams out there in Masai Ujiri. And it's an NBA job. And the reality is an NBA job is always going to be better than college job because you don't have to worry about did they go to class and what's the GPA and stuff like that. You can just coach basketball. So I understand, but I just thought you guys should dig up his interview. I can't remember whether it was one after the title or before the title, but in one of them he was swearing up and down like, this is the last job I'm ever going to take. So I hope he continues to be our friend so we can ask him and give him a hard time about that.

[Tony Reali]

It's Michigan J. Frog.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, it's not J. Michigan Frog? No, that's his brother.

[Dan Le Batard]

There you go, Amin. Excellent job. Appreciate you, man. We'll talk again soon.

[Amin Elhassan]

Where's that woke scumbag?

[Tony Reali]

Do you guys know Amin is a film director according to Google.

[Greg Cody]

What?

[Dan Le Batard]

Really? What does it say he's done? I can think of only one type

[Amin Elhassan]

of film that Amin would direct.

[Tony Reali]

I mean, I just typed in Amin Elhassan. Before I got to anywhere else, it tried to auto complete and said film director. I was like, oh, okay, cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

What if you do that for your name, you put in Dominique Foxworth. What is the auto. Fill in the blank there. What's, what's the most interesting one?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Tony Foxworth. Good player, bad player.

[Tony Reali]

It says sexy mother. Oh, wow. I don't think I can say. I don't think I read this.

[Dan Le Batard]

You ever click on that Dominic Fox with net worth? That comes up, right?

[Greg Cody]

What?

[Tony Reali]

No.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, really?

[Tony Reali]

I don't know. I mean, I never Google my own name.

[Greg Cody]

I'm me.

[Tony Reali]

I know all I need to know about me.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, I know that's come up when, when my name has been put in Jonathan Zaszel. And then it'll come. It'll say net worth and you click on net worth.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Well, I'm gonna Google it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, yeah, do it. I mean, tell me what it says right? Now, I know what it said the last time I was told what it says, but what it say? It said between one and five million dollars.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's got money.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's got money. Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

Is that. Now is that counting the stocks and bonds that you never cashed in to go get the job?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's funny that you bring that up, Amin. I, I haven't even cashed them yet. Ok? Because here's the thing. You got to go into the bank. When's the last time you went into the bank? Like, when I get checks, I do it on the app, on my phone. When's the last time you stepped into an actual bank? So I was going to go on Friday because company holiday Juneteenth. The bank. It's also a holiday at the bank. So I have not even cashed those bonds yet. But it's, it's, it's some money. I'm, I'm trying to get out there. I'm trying to cash, as Google says,

[Amin Elhassan]

some are saying between 1 and 5 million.

[Dan Le Batard]

What does Google say?

[Dominique Foxworth]

1 to 5 million. You got money.

[Tony Reali]

Big money.

[Greg Cody]

This says, this says 823,000.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's not great.

[Greg Cody]

It also says your nickname is. What does it say here? This is interesting. The Cooper City Rattlesnake.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's right.

[Greg Cody]

What the hell does that mean?

[Dan Le Batard]

What do you mean, what does it mean?

[Greg Cody]

I'm asking you, what does the Cooper City Rattlesnake mean?

[Tony Reali]

Rattlesnake. So this might throw you guys off, but I just came from a flag football tournament with my son. And you see the teams that you're going to play, and I was guessing the racial composition of the team based on the mascot. I heard rattlesnake. I see snakes always. I'm like, yeah, there's a white team.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're free of snakes.

[Tony Reali]

No, I'm not afraid of snakes. I had a pet snake when I was a kid.

[Greg Cody]

I really.

[Tony Reali]

Yeah, one of my snake kid, one of my roommates when I was in college had a snake. He went home to see the birth of his daughter. The snake got out. We didn't know where the snake was. Snake was laying next to my bed for like a month. And I just didn't know it because alive. Yeah, the college kid. I don't change my sheets. That's crazy talk.

[Dan Le Batard]

That happened once when I was on my way home from school where, you know, I didn't have a car. And so a girl that me and my buddy knew, she agreed to drive us home. Okay, so she's driving, wearing the car. But my friend, he's got a pet snake and he's bringing the snake home. He can't just leave it. He's. We gone for a couple weeks, you know, and at one point during the car rides, we're in the back seat, me and him, I see he's kind of nudge me. He's like, yo, I don't know where the sneak went. And you know, like, it's, it's some. It's somewhere in the car. And I go, you better not tell her, all right? Because we're on the highway. Like, we're on the highway driving home from Orlando and she's gonna learn that somewhere in the car. The only thing worse than being afraid of a snake is being afraid of a snake and you don't know where the snake is. And I had to tell him. I'm like, you will not say anything, all right? But that snake was slithering around somewhere. We would got into an accident.

[Tony Reali]

Did you find this thing?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Yeah, right.

[Tony Reali]

Like somewhere where it was warm, I would guess.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know. But when we got like home then he found the snake, she was not pleased. Not pleased.

[Tony Reali]

I wasn't a pet snake guy. So my mom worked at the science center and she would bring the snake home sometimes for safekeeping, and I would end up taking care of it. So I didn't have a pet.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you ever feed at the rat?

[Tony Reali]

Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean, like, that's part of having a snake.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That means you were a snake kid growing up.

[Tony Reali]

Oh, I guess I'm a snake kid now.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I lived across the street from a snake kid. Didn't like him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, does everyone know? You know, they say, oh, we got a snake kid over there.

[Dominique Foxworth]

But it's weird. They're not, they're not super friendly sometimes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really?

[Amin Elhassan]

You lob the rat up. You lob it up and then it catches.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it's like a dog.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Alley oop to the snake.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's right.

[Tony Reali]

It was a constrictor. So it like, would have a big ass snake rule.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. That's ridiculous. What do you get out of a snake? People who own snakes. What do you get out of it? You can't pet it. It doesn't curl up next to you in your lap. What do you get out of a snake?

[Tony Reali]

What is the advantage of not all loving physical. Greg, relax.

[Greg Cody]

So, so the. So, so the snake looks at you with those loving eyes?

[Tony Reali]

Is that what you. It's an emotional connection. It's not a physical connection. The same way that you have with your dog.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, really? Just the same, you have a physical

[Tony Reali]

connection with your dog.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It just seems like the snake is perpetually trying to kill you.

[Greg Cody]

Yes.

[Dominique Foxworth]

As a pet. Where the dog is not trying to kill you. The dog likes you. The snake is like, how can I kill this person?

[Greg Cody]

Very good distinction by Tony.

[Tony Reali]

The snakes aren't trying to eat you.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're trying to figure it out.

[Dominique Foxworth]

How, like, he saw you and was like, how can I eat this guy, bro?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, when they're. I think when they're, like, lying down next to you trying to size you up, they're sizing you up. If they could, like, fit you in. In their. In their mouth, you know, they. If they could eat all your body. I mean.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, one finger at a time.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not trying to get eaten by a snake. I don't know what you all laughing about. Like you've never thought about, hey, I hope that snake doesn't eat me. Snake in my house, crazy.

[Tony Reali]

Sizing you up to see if they can eat all your body.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not gonna size me up. Nobody's eating my body.

[Amin Elhassan]

Whoa, whoa.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is my body. Can't eat me.

[Amin Elhassan]

You. You. You're gonna watch someone else have their

[Dan Le Batard]

body eaten, not eat my body? What are you talking about?

[Amin Elhassan]

He's a woke scumbag.

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