Amin Elhassan's World Cup Observations | Hour 3

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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Amin Elhassan’s World Cup Observations | Hour 3

Date: June 15, 2026
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
Guests/Contributors: Amin Elhassan, Zazie Beetz, Greg Cody

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Episode Overview

This lively episode is broadcast from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami and is packed with the crew’s signature blend of sports analysis, pop-culture references, and comedic banter. Hour 3 dives deep into NBA Finals aftermath, the uniqueness of the Knicks’ title run, the vibrancy of World Cup soccer, and a slew of memorable moments from Amin Elhassan. The conversation is fast-paced, loaded with stats, debate, and a healthy dose of New York sports fan energy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA Finals Retrospective

Knicks’ Unprecedented Run (01:54–15:54)

• Dan rattles off a host of wild stats underscoring the razor-thin margins in the Finals between the Knicks and Spurs (01:54).

  • Knicks lost just 3 times in the postseason by a combined 6 points
  • Spurs led by 12+ in every Finals game and were tied or led in the last two minutes of all games, yet lost the series in 5

• Zazie picks as her favorite stat: "The Knicks, just three losses by a combined six points this postseason. I think that’s my favorite." (02:46)

• Amin underscores, "Young teams run into the pain of experience at some point," and clarifies he never bought into the “Brunson too small” narrative (04:18).

• Dan and Amin debate Jalen Brunson's rise, with Dan proposing he’s the league’s second-most clutch player behind Michael Jordan (07:39).

  Dan (07:39): “Is it an overreaction for me to say, second most clutch player we have ever seen?...Numerically, this person can score...in the fourth quarter and has done it now for four straight seasons...that doubles up the MVP. Shea and Jokic have done less close and late by half than what Brunson’s done the last three years of the playoffs.”

• Amin cautions against prisoner-of-the-moment takes: “You can’t come from unranked on your most clutch of all time to second behind Michael.” (08:25)

• A lively comparison between Brunson and Allen Iverson follows, with Amin detailing: “Iverson had to play that way for that team to have a chance.” (09:20)

New York’s Wild Celebration & NBA Fan Culture (10:05–14:58)

• Dan & Amin reflect on the wild scenes from Knicks fans celebrating, including streets full of smoke and public revelry.
  • Amin: “That's my cousin [in the viral celebration photo].” (11:21)
  • Zazie: “They decapitated Elmo and put it on a spike and put a sign that said Traitor on it...Pick a side, Elmo.” (13:11)
  • Amin: “There’s no other city in the league...If you win one in New York, it’s worth a thousand anywhere else.” (11:44)

Trophies & Ownership Debate (14:58–18:19)

• The crew critiques the tradition of handing the NBA trophy to the owner first.
  • Zazie: "I’ll never understand giving the trophy to the owner first before the players.” (15:06)
  • Amin: “That’s the deal, guys. The guy paid for everything. That’s the deal...I pay for the pizza, you better believe I’m going to get the first slice.” (15:57, 16:27)
  • The discussion devolves into a humorous "pizza slice draft."

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2. Amin’s World Cup Observations (22:24–29:33)

[22:24] Dan and Zazie cue up Amin’s much-anticipated “World Cup Observations,” sponsored by Miller Lite.

Group Stage Highlights & Observations

• Cote d’Ivoire’s Late Winner: “Incredible goal in the 90th minute to defeat Ecuador...the hopes of their nation are on the line.” (22:52)
• Germany Dominates Curacao: “They beat Curacao 7:1, which absolutely gave me PTSD from 2014.” (23:24)
• Brazil vs. Morocco Analysis: Amin describes exhausting overlap between World Cup and NBA Finals, and being genuinely excited by Vinicius Jr’s equalizer. “I yelp audibly because Vinni Jr. scores on a freaking Jericho missile…” (24:02)
• USA’s Victory: “The USA has a guy who was born in the USA while his parents were on vacation. I wish that was a witty joke that I wrote. That’s real. Guy scored twice. USA beat Paraguay 4-1…” (24:55)
  • Amin: “USA beating Paraguay 4-1, which is the soccer equivalent of Wemby hitting that deep three in overtime. It gives you a false sense of security that will come back to haunt its fanbase.” (25:05)

Special Note on Morocco’s Team

• Amin: “Morocco is the first team to field an entire starting 11 born outside of the nation they represent.” (25:22)

Game of the Tournament: Netherlands vs. Japan

• Amin: “Last time I had that much fun watching something that involved the Japanese and Netherlands, I was using a VPN.” (25:32)
  (The show erupts in laughter)

“Back In My Day” – Gripes with Modern Soccer

• Old-school takes on referees’ uniforms: “Back in my day, refs wore only one color, all black…” (26:17)
• Jokes about stamps and post office ignorance: “No, I’m not [appalled]. The audience all lies.” (27:13)

Heartfelt World Cup Storylines

• Algeria’s Kansas Camp: “Unlike any other team in the World Cup, they’ve really embraced their local community...It is a great, great story for a team that is a pretty good team.” (28:43)

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3. Giannis Trade Rumors & NBA Roster Mechanics (37:41–41:48)

• Windhorst’s reporting: Giannis has Miami as his preferred destination.
  • Amin: “This deal is done. The only reason it hasn’t been done yet is because they were holding for the end of the Finals...It sounds like Giannis is going to be a Miami Heat, and if he is, that’ll mark the second time he instantly becomes the most famous number 34 in the franchise, stealing it away from Ray Allen.” (37:51, 38:16)

Amin Explains the "Brothers on the Roster" Phenomenon (39:47–41:33)

• The value of adding Giannis’ brother Thanasis: "You absolutely want Thanasis...He’s the only person Giannis listens to...he has great value to the acquiring team." (39:47)
• Examples: Chris Smith/JR Smith, Bronny/LeBron, but notes Thanasis is unique because “he plays a Udonis Haslem-like role for Giannis.”

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4. Final Basketball Reflections & Show Sign-Off (41:33–44:07)

• Amin: Praises Victor Wembanyama (“so much better than any of us believed he’d be this quickly”) but notes some excellence fatigue already setting in. (41:48)

• Applauds the unity and growth of the Knicks, and specifically coach Mike Brown:

  "Let players grow...Why don’t we ever let coaches grow? The idea that Mike Brown is the same guy in 2026 as he was in 2007 is patently ridiculous." (42:34)

• Predicts the Giannis trade will set off a flurry of other moves throughout the NBA.

• Amin’s parting shot: "I'll go to my dying grave—Oklahoma City Thunder, if they don't get hurt, they're probably the champs today." (43:17)

  • "What other kind of grave is there, other than a dying grave?" – Dan (43:21)
  • “Biscuits and graves.” – Greg Cody (43:23)
  • The crew riffs on "biscuits and graves" and how injuries change the context of NBA predictions.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments with Timestamps

• “It was so much you gave me there. I don’t know how I’m supposed to remember all that, but I think the third one you gave me...the Knicks, just three losses by a combined six points in this postseason—I think that’s my favorite.” — Zazie Beetz (02:46)

• "Unless you felt like that before, this run, you can't say now this run makes him the second most clutch ever...You can't come from unranked on your most clutch of all time to second behind Michael." — Amin Elhassan on Jalen Brunson (08:25)

• "They decapitated Elmo and put it on a spike and put a sign that said Traitor on it." — Amin Elhassan, on the insanity of New York celebrations (13:11)

• "If you win one in New York, it’s worth a thousand anywhere else." — Amin Elhassan (11:44)

• "That’s the deal, guys. The guy paid for everything. That’s the deal...I pay for the pizza, you better believe I’m going to get the first slice." — Amin Elhassan on why owners get the trophy first (15:57)

• “USA beating Paraguay 4-1 is the soccer equivalent of Wemby hitting that deep three in overtime. It gives you a false sense of security that will come back to haunt its fanbase.” — Amin (25:05)

• "[Algeria’s]...little kids came and played with the Algerian players on the pitch. It’s really, really touching stuff to see. All these Kansans very excited that a team chose their home to be the training ground." — Amin (28:43)

• "Oklahoma City Thunder, if they don't get hurt, they're probably the champs today." — Amin Elhassan (43:17)

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Important Timestamps

• NBA Finals Statistical Banter: 01:54–10:05
• Comparison: Brunson vs. Iverson & NBA Clutch Discourse: 07:39–10:05
• New York Celebrations Fan Culture: 10:05–14:58
• Sports Ownership, Trophies, Pizza Drafts: 14:58–18:19
• Amin’s World Cup Observations: 22:24–29:33
• Giannis to the Heat Rumor & "Brother" Roster Spots: 37:41–41:33
• Final Basketball Season Reflections: 41:33–44:07

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Tone & Style

The episode is energetic and irreverent, with fast-paced wit, sarcasm, and lots of hot takes. The mix of sharp analysis and comedy is signature “Le Batard Show”—no topic is too serious, and no stat or cultural reference is safe from the crew's playful skepticism.

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Summary Prepared for fans seeking the essential moments, debate, and flavor of this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Zazie Beetz]

the DC start of the day Zaz,

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to know which of these stats, these four stats do you believe are is the best of all of the stats I'm about to give you. The spurs led by 12 plus points in every game and led or were tied in the final two minutes of every game. 12 points separated the Knicks and the Spurs 12 points. It's the closest NBA Finals there's ever been and it was decided in five games. The Knicks lost three times by a combined six points in the postseason, one of the most dominant runs through a postseason there's ever been and the rest of the NBA went down 15 plus points. This postseason was 6 and 58. The Knicks were 3 and 1.

[Zazie Beetz]

It was so much you gave me there. I don't know how I'm supposed to remember all of that, but I think the third one that you gave Me, which was the Knicks. Just three losses by a combined six total points this postseason. I think that's my favorite.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's one of the greatest runs we've ever seen, punctuated by one of the most confusing finals you will ever see because of what I gave you at the front end of that, which is The spurs were up 12 plus in every game and in the last two minutes of every single game were either leading or tied. And they lost in five.

[Zazie Beetz]

I mean, I'll tell you how it happens. It sometimes not that complicated. Number one, your star player was terrible in the fourth quarter and with the game on the line the whole series. Your veteran point guard who's got the ball in his hands was terrible in the fourth quarter all series long. And your head coach, your young head coach was terrible. Decision making with the game on the line.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wemby's net rating in the finals, in the first quarter he was plus 43.1, which is crazy. In the second quarter, he's minus 11. Third quarter, minus 4.1. Fourth quarter, minus 14.3. Just a disaster. Latent games. Amin has been texting me all weekend saying that his capitulation Monday he is telling everyone who will listen that he was right even though he said that the OKC Thunder were inevitable.

[Amin Elhassan]

I think the Thunder are going to destroy them.

[Dan Le Batard]

So Amin, where are you today on everything that happened over the weekend before we get to your weekend observations?

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, I. I'm exactly where I thought I'd be, which is correct. And you guys are such losers. You put my thunder prediction inside your pra gas bags even though I had nothing to do with it. Because again, the Thunder lost two of their three ball handlers. And that explains things. That's how things happen in the world. When we say something's going to happen, we're assuming regular conditions. I'm not saying, hey, this, this day at the beach is gonna be awesome. And then a hurricane comes unexpectedly. So. I thought you said it'd be awesome. Well, yeah, I didn't expect a hurricane to happen. So. It's all right. It's okay. I understand that you can't say, damn, I mean, you were right, and just leave it at that. You have to kind of find a way around, like to undercut it one way or another. But there's two things. One is I told you that young teams, I don't care how talented they are, they run into the pain of experience at some point. And two, you lumped me in and said, oh, I mean, said that a small guard could never I never said that. I was never on the. Jalen Brunson's too small to win a championship. Training. Do not put that on me. I never said that. I never said. Well, the championship is this. Western Conference finals. I never said that either.

[Dan Le Batard]

Where are you on Brunson and how we're going to have to rewrite some of our impressions of him because the Immortals don't get to sneak up on you.

[Amin Elhassan]

I mean, there have been Immortals that have sneaked up on us, though. I mean,

[Dan Le Batard]

snuck.

[Amin Elhassan]

Was that me or Snuck? You guys hear that echo? Nope. Okay, I'm just hearing some conversation somewhere in the background, but no, Jokic was a second round pick. You can't hear that. Really? It's like. It sounds like people having a conversation. You're doing it, but I know it's not like a.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's just you. None of us. None of us can hear that. In fact, let's put a mean down for a second. Okay? Yeah, it's nice.

[Amin Elhassan]

Joker was a second round pick and nobody thought he was going to be what he was. And he. He. He snuck up on us. To use your term, snuck. You know, they're big guys before, but yeah, Brunson. Brunson is special because. Because of the. The gas bag montage, right? Because at the time of the signing, there were a lot of people who didn't understand it. And I won't say that I was one of those people who didn't understand it, but I also won't say that, oh, I knew he'd lead them, no championship. I thought he was a pretty good player. And that was a smart use of their money at the time.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, the reason that Jokic is different is because Now I can't hear any.

[Amin Elhassan]

You're talking now Dan's talking. I see his lips.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, put him down, please, so that I can come back to him when we've got functioning audio. Thanks. That'll. That's the way to go on that one. The reason that Jokic is different is because Jokic was somebody who was drafted in the second round, but he wasn't doubted when he got to the finals. He wasn't doubted deep into the playoffs. Can this person was that year, his first MVP was the year that he won the 23. Chip was. And he wasn't doubted whether we knew how great that player was. The part of it that was surprising was the front end. Of course, you don't normally get a guy drafted in the second round in that sport who turns into an all time great, but I believe that this Knicks team was doubted throughout, and I believe Brunson was doubted throughout, at least in part because of the history of you can't win with someone that small as your best player.

[Zazie Beetz]

To your point, Jokic, before winning the NBA championship was already a two time mvp.

[Dan Le Batard]

That wasn't what we just experienced. What we just experienced has no precedent that I can recall in the history of the sport. Honest to God, where a guy who empirically, without question, is a killer in the fourth quarter, like you can measure it. Is it an overreaction for me to say Amain, second most clutch player we have ever seen? I know people are hyperventilating. I know there's a prisoner of the moment. I know emotion gets involved. But numerically, numerically, this person can score no matter what's happening in the fourth quarter and has done it now for four straight seasons in a way that doubles up the mvp. Shea and Jokic have done less close and late by half than what Brunson's done the last three years of the playoffs.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, I mean, I think it's tough to say anything is. Unless you felt like that before. This run, you can't say now this run makes him the second most clutch ever. If you said that before, if you say, oh, he was third before, now he's second, I'm with you. But you can't come from unranked on your most clutch of all time to second behind Michael.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's unranked as best player in the game. He's, he never gets in that conversation. Never.

[Amin Elhassan]

I, I don't, I don't think he's the best player in the game. I think he's an amazing player and I think he had an amazing playoffs and amazing finals, obviously, and he deserves all the kudos. I heard you earlier say he's better than Allen Iverson. I think in order to be Allen Iverson, you got, you got to put together a career of that, right? Allen? I had a career of all of those moments and Brunson has had, as we said, four years of it. Which is again, nothing to say that it won't continue if it continues. Sure. But at this point, I couldn't put him above.

[Dan Le Batard]

You don't put him above Iverson because of the efficiencies.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, because again, the game was a different game. For one, in terms of how the game was played, how the game was looked at. Number two, I think Iverson played on a team where he had to shoot like that, he had to play like that. You know, this team that, that Brunson plays on. He's got Carl Anthony Towns, who many of us have called the best shooting big man of all time. Zach Harper says he's one of the best shooters in the league, period. Don't, don't. Let's not qualify with as big man. He's got OG Anunoby, obviously. He's a great talent. He's got a talented team. Iverson was playing with Eric Snow and Kevin Mutombo, Tyrone Hill and. And George Lynch. None of those guys.

[Dan Le Batard]

Aaron McKee.

[Amin Elhassan]

Aaron McKee. Aaron McKEE. Phillies Olam Aaron McKee. So none of those guys were really offensive juggernauts or guys that go on. Any given, I can give you 30. Iverson had to play that way for that team to have a chance.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to play. Some sound here of a CNN reporter getting engulfed in the streets of New York here. I don't know whether Amin has gotten to feel the flavor of New York here in the last couple of days, but look at what is happening in the streets here as this CNN reporter tries to stay calm.

[Amin Elhassan]

You saw everything. Of all these things that are finally happening. And we are here and here we are today. And this is just how it is. That Wemby pack. Like we said, Omar, it is a party atmosphere. I love your.

[Zazie Beetz]

Yeah,

[Amin Elhassan]

See?

[Zazie Beetz]

All right, Mark Morales is getting a taste of the people right now up close and personal with people clearly smoking on that San Antonio spurs pack right now.

[Dan Le Batard]

They were blowing smoke in his face. Marijuana smoke in his face. I will never get used to New York streets being filled with people just walking around smoking weed.

[Zazie Beetz]

Multiple splits, Dan.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, no, that's shout out to legality, right? No, it. Look, I haven't been. I was in San Antonio, obviously, for game five. I've been in communication with everyone in New York, but really funny to, you know, look at one of those aggregator accounts, league alerts, and they're talking about fires and destruction. And in one of the pictures, I'm like, that's my cousin. So, like that. That was weird. I'm gonna go to the parade and see what that's about.

[Zazie Beetz]

Really?

[Amin Elhassan]

On Thursday? Yeah, I'm gonna go. I. I just. I want to be around my. My cousins and my friends and stuff, and. And I want to see what it's like, you know, the parade, I think, is gonna be a lot more tame than Saturday night must have been. Saturday night looked like the apocalypse and the amount of people in the streets for the game, because I didn't know this many neighborhoods. They were projecting the game Onto the sides of building you're never going to get. There's no other city in the league. I've said this a million times, usually in reference to LeBron becoming a Knick. I said, if you win one in New York, it's worth a thousand anywhere else. And sometimes I thought to myself, I mean, you're over exaggerating. It can't be worth a thousand. Then watching people watch an NBA finals game on the side of a building as they crowd the streets, like, no, that's worth a thousand. They don't do that anywhere else. They don't do that in Boston.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm sitting there watching the entire time. Behind Tony, there's a guy hanging from a traffic light who then grabs onto the top of a double decker bus. Like there's.

[Zazie Beetz]

Yeah, it's like when you hang on

[Amin Elhassan]

the rim, see the guy, the guy doing the pull ups from the traffic light with nothing underneath them. Yeah, he did pull ups. I'm like, what are you doing? Well, your fingers get sweaty, you slip. That's it. You're in a wheelchair for the rest of your life.

[Zazie Beetz]

I did have a moment. I did have a moment on Saturday night, like seeing all that party, realizing now I get why people make fun of our little party at the Elbow Room. Because while it does feel big to us, it's just like, yeah, a few hundred people where. That's big blocks and blocks of guys.

[Amin Elhassan]

They, they decapitated Elmo and put it on a spike and put a sign that said Traitor on it.

[Zazie Beetz]

Pick a side, Elmo.

[Greg Cody]

I'm.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm sorry. They don't do that in Dallas. They don't do that in, in, in Phoenix. They don't do that in Chicago, Milwaukee, any of these other towns. Hey, we've got the best sports fans. No, you don't. They don't do that. That, that, that's next level.

[Zazie Beetz]

And Dan, like they took over that building in San Antonio. We've got, We've never seen that in the NBA Finals like that.

[Greg Cody]

I'm.

[Zazie Beetz]

I don't think I'm exaggerating.

[Amin Elhassan]

I took pictures in a video of the upper deck and the upper deck was almost exclusively orange and blue.

[Zazie Beetz]

That's crazy. That's never.

[Amin Elhassan]

Lower bowl was more mixed. Now lest I believe that maybe I was just tripping. When they win the championship, you know, they bring it. They have to build that stage out. So it takes some time, but the stage will get built out before Ernie Johnson and Adam Silber can present the trophy and shout out to Ernie Johnson by The way class act, hall of Famer, all this stuff was still giddy afterwards that he got to hand the trophy out. Like, that was his first time, obviously, doing the NBA Finals, him and Charles and the rest of them. And it was so amazing to see people were so accomplished. Still be like, oh, my God, I can't believe this is happening to me. Even though, you know, they're hall of Famers, but. Yeah. So as they're building out that stage, obviously all the spurs fans are leaving. They don't want to watch this. So all that remained was just the Nick Band. And it looked like the arena was still full.

[Zazie Beetz]

Yep.

[Amin Elhassan]

There was still. I mean, I'm talking about. I. I don't know if you can see it on tv. That entire lower bowl was full of Nick Band, and then upstairs was more scattered. So. Yeah, I. I can agree with you there, Zaz. We've never seen that. We'll never see that again. I don't think where a road team will take over the. The. The opposing arena like that.

[Dan Le Batard]

They did it in Philadelphia, too. Zaz, how did you feel about the trophy being handed, as is the custom in the NBA, to James Dolan?

[Greg Cody]

I'll.

[Zazie Beetz]

I'll never be able to get past this. I won't. And we saw it this weekend where it was two consecutive nights. It was. It was Saturday night, and then it was Sunday night and Saturday night, the NBA champion, the New York Knicks. The very first thing they do on that stage, they hand the Larry o' Brien trophy to the owner. Hey, New York, sorry it took so long. They hand it to Jim Dolan, and he gets to talk first. And then the very next night, as if anyone wants to hear from the owner. And then the next night, the Stanley cup gets awarded to the Carolina Hurricanes. And who gets the trophy? The cup first. The Captain Jordan stall. No owners in sight. Like, I. I'll just. I'll never understand giving the trophy to the owner first before. Isn't that guy in Portland?

[Amin Elhassan]

That's. That's the deal, guys. The guy paid for everything. That's the deal. I don't like him. But he won and he paid for everything.

[Zazie Beetz]

No, but it doesn't have to do with James Dolan. Like. Like, it's.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

It's.

[Zazie Beetz]

It's every year.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's every year. And that's. That's what I always say. It's the owner. The owner gets to get the title first. The. The trophy first. Because they paid for everything.

[Zazie Beetz]

So lame.

[Amin Elhassan]

They paid for everything. I'm just saying, like. Like, it's Kind of like if we order a pizza, I pay for the pizza. You better believe I'm gonna get the first slice. What are you talking about? Like, it's my.

[Greg Cody]

I.

[Amin Elhassan]

You are welcome to feel after I do, you get the big piece of chicken. Whatever the metaphor you want to use,

[Zazie Beetz]

man, I love a slice draft. When you get a pie, a couple

[Amin Elhassan]

pies at the house, like, you go in.

[Zazie Beetz]

In hierarchy. All right, I'm gonna go first.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm gonna get this one with the bubble. Call it a pie. I see it.

[Zazie Beetz]

My son got so mad at me the other day when. Because I'm. I'm paying for the pie, and I'm. I'm gonna order the kind of crust that I want, Dan. And so I like the pan. Pan crust is the best crust. And I got pan. And my younger son, he. It was like I ruined the night. He was devastated and angry with me. It is. But that's okay. If we're going slice draft, you draft in the bubble piece. No, I'm okay with the bubble piece. I love a pizza bubble. I'm okay with it. Yep, I'm okay with it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. If you're going pizza slice draft, do you take the piece with the bubble?

[Zazie Beetz]

First bubble piece is a second round pick at best. If not third round pick pan. First round pick pan crust is the way to go.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're gonna get. I'm with you on pan pizza. Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Is Pan pizza the best of the pizza? When we get to talking about owners, though, I thought about this the other day. We didn't comment when Silver was talking about Trump being at Madison Square Garden, and you saw sort of the broken body language of Shaq and Draymond and Charles Barkley sitting next to Silver and sort of having to eat the things that he was saying that were positive. It made me think of what was the name of Diddy's butler who just walked around him with a parasol?

[Amin Elhassan]

Barnsworth Bentley.

[Dan Le Batard]

Farnsworth Bentley. Silver has become Farnsworth Bentley. He should just walk around the owners like Dolan with a parasol in the event that it rains that. That he should just be a glorified butler at this point, given what he's doing. Just walk behind Ballmer and make sure that all of Pablo's spitting doesn't land on the top of his head.

[Amin Elhassan]

From jeez to gents. You guys remember that show?

[Zazie Beetz]

I do remember that.

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[Zazie Beetz]

Hey, that's what I'm talking about, Tony. You know that moment At a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks. I know it. Well, it's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Zazie Beetz]

You usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo.

[Amin Elhassan]

Walk in like this.

[Zazie Beetz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night. It has that effect on people. It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering. Keep it, Cuervo.

[Amin Elhassan]

Cuervo, baby. Don LeBatard.

[Dan Le Batard]

Doesn't matter. Anywhere.

[Amin Elhassan]

We could do it in Buffalo or Baltimore. Eva, you say you could do it where? Anywhere. Oh, whoa. Oh, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. He could do it anywhere. That's crazy. Murder. Murder. Tell him, Stugach.

[Zazie Beetz]

I had no idea.

[Greg Cody]

Mean.

[Zazie Beetz]

Had that in his locker.

[Amin Elhassan]

That might be his death.

[Zazie Beetz]

That's crazy.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm not kidding. That's crazy.

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[Zazie Beetz]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

Give Amin the. Give Amin the weekend observation and World cup observations. Music, please.

[Zazie Beetz]

It is time for.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean.

[Zazie Beetz]

To share his World cup game notes.

[Amin Elhassan]

No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boy. I mean, World cup observations is brought to you by Miller Lite. Legendary moments. Start with the light, folks. Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Amin Elhassan]

Let's go ahead and address the elephant in the room. How about Cote d'?

[Greg Cody]

Ibois?

[Amin Elhassan]

Incredible goal in the 90th minute to defeat Ecuador.

[Zazie Beetz]

Get it?

[Amin Elhassan]

Because they call the elephants the elephantes. Yeah, it's still early. It's still early for Ecuador, but with Germany also in their group, you could also say the hopes of their nation are on the line. Ecuador's hopes are on the line because of the equator.

[Zazie Beetz]

I like it. I like it. I like it.

[Amin Elhassan]

Speaking of Germany, they beat Curacao. Or as Wayne Gretzky likes to say, Kurakao 7:1, which absolutely gave me PTSD from 2014. The sad part is you could argue that Curacao did better than Brazil did because at least they tied it up early. Brazil was down like 50 before they scored one. God, I learned pretty quickly on Saturday. Having World cup games during the NBA finals is an exhausting proposition. I was spent before game five started because I was sitting there watching Brazil play against Morocco a few feet away from Mike Brown's pregame presser. And I yelp audibly because Vinnie Jr. Scores on a freaking Jericho missile to earn the draw against Morocco. I was like. And everyone turned around and looked, is everything okay? I'm like, oh, yeah. Just held up my phone.

[Dan Le Batard]

How bummed were you by that as a performance, though? Like, what is that from the the greatest soccer historians the world has ever known?

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, Dan, there's a lot of doubters out there. There's a lot of haters. There's a lot of people thinking that this is the worst Brazil side in quite some time. I'm not one of them. Morocco is a really good team, and they started out very aggressively. And then the rest of the game, Brazil controlled. I was surprised that Endrick didn't play. I was surprised that Cunho came in in the second half as opposed to starting the game. But I'm not worried. We got things under control.

[Zazie Beetz]

I'll tell you something, Dan. I watched a lot of that Brazil game. They got some great fans.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good fans.

[Zazie Beetz]

Great fans.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, man. You know about those Brazilian fans.

[Zazie Beetz]

That's great fans.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. Morocco is the first team to field an entire starting 11 born outside of the nation. They represent all of their starters born outside of Morocco. Not to be outdone, the USA has a guy who was born in the USA while his parents were on vacation. I wish that was a witty joke that I wrote. That's real. Guy scored twice. USA beat Paraguay 4 1. The dude that was born on vacation scored two of their goals. USA beating Paraguay 4 1, which is the soccer equivalent of Wemby Hitting that deep three in overtime. It gives you a false sense of security that will come back to Haunted Span base. Mark my words. Netherlands and Japan game of the tournament so far. Last time I had that much fun watching something that involved the Japanese and Netherlands, I was using a vpn. My VPN users know what I'm talking about. Time for another edition of the show. Within the show. Within the show. It's back in my day. World cup observations on Dan Levitar show. Back in my day, refs wore only one color, all black. In the all chance that New Zealand was playing on that day, which they almost never do during the World cup, the refs would wear yellow. That's it. Stop giving me refs wearing every color under the sun. All black. Everyone else adjust. Get out of my face. Also, I don't need the ref's name on the back of the jersey. I didn't come to see them. What are we selling ref jerseys next? Looking Ahead to tomorrow, two games. I'm really excited for France versus Senegal. Colonizer versus the colonized. This is a little bit of a. A hat builds and McCoys because there are like four or five players on the Senegalese team who are born in France and chose to play for their native Senegal. By the way, the French postal service is called La Poste. La Post. It's yellow. And Tony, unlike you, I love female workers. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I don't judge you like the male workers. I like the female workers.

[Dan Le Batard]

Were you as appalled by our lack of stamp knowledge as the audience seemed to be?

[Amin Elhassan]

No, I'm not. Because the audience all lies. First of all, the question was who has stamps at home? Nobody. That's why we go to the post office. If I had stamps at home, I wouldn't have to go to the post office. Second of all, Dan, when you said it was a stage 98 cents or whatever.

[Dan Le Batard]

36. 38 or 36 cents is what I said.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, it's not, but. No, but what is it really?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, they said it's 78 or 79 cents and I think they're looking in the wrong place. I don't, I don't believe that that's right.

[Amin Elhassan]

So too 38 cents was. Was what I thought it was as well.

[Zazie Beetz]

It's not.

[Amin Elhassan]

I know. It's okay. I'm just saying, like that's what I thought it was. But to, to hear that it's as elevated it is is pretty shocking. But again, how many of us are mailing things, physically mailing things? What are you mailing? What are you mailing? I guess if you, if you had a wedding, but then they're doing the postage by the pound, right? They take all the invites and they weigh them and then you get the automated thing. You're not doing lick and stamps like the George Costanza some shit, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

I believe they're wrong. I believe the Internet is wrong. I believe the people looking things up on this show are wrong. I believe that stamps are still closer to 38. They are till 78 cents.

[Amin Elhassan]

I think you need to send Jeremy to the post office right now to go mail something, anything. Doesn't matter what it is. Go find out. Jeremy, hustle back.

[Dan Le Batard]

Report tomorrow. Jeremy, I want you to go to the post office and find. Get to the bottom of this question that we have.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Terrific.

[Zazie Beetz]

Thank you for that, Amin.

[Amin Elhassan]

You're welcome. The other game I'm looking forward to is the feel good story of the World cup so far. Algeria. Dan, you know about that? Algeria.

[Dan Le Batard]

I do not.

[Amin Elhassan]

So Algeria is doing their camp in Lawrence, Kansas and unlike any other team in the World cup, they've really embraced their local community and shout out to the people. Lawrence, Kansas, they've embraced them back. They, they, they bring like Algerian singers to play and the, the community comes out. The little kids came and played with the Algerian players on the pitch. It's really, really touching stuff to see. All these Kansans very excited that a team chose their home to be the training ground and now they're all buying Algeria jerseys and they're supporting Algeria. It is a great, great story for a team that it's a pretty good team. Remember they did pretty well in the last World cup or two World Cups ago. And so that's a feel good story. They're taking on the feel bad story of every World cup and that's Argentina. Argentina could go to hell. Speaking of hell, Argentina, those are the World cup observations.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well done. Looking forward to these next few weeks. The United States. It can be plausibly argued that that's as good as U.S. soccer has ever looked. It's not just winning 4 1, it's that you consistently attacked after taking the lead. Our teams are boring. They're plotting. They have never been a team. I know. It's merely part of why keep us up? Why are you shaking your head?

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm going to say this is, this is everyone's reaction after Wemby hit that three in the conference final?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I'm just, I. No, no. We have the result. A result. I'm not projecting from it. I'm just saying that's about as good as soccer has felt since Landon Donovan, you know, scored a goal. Four goals is not something that we do.

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[Zazie Beetz]

Don LeBatard I feel like we need to normalize saying the scientific terms for organs on the air. Like if someone yes, you know what? If someone takes a foul ball to the penis, we should just say he took a foul ball to the penis.

[Amin Elhassan]

Sts that free kick hit him right

[Zazie Beetz]

in the cockadoodle doo. This is the D Ler show with the st.

[Dan Le Batard]

Speaking of Landon Donovan, incidentally, I'd like to get those pictures. Yeah, I'd like to get those pictures. Landon Donovan as a soccer ball, as a soccer player had a head that was like they said soccer ball. He was bald. He was soccer bald and he was obviously as even a young man bald. And now he's got a full head of hair for him that it's not. It's the way Wayne Rooney did it. Where you go it's like how my dad would do dye jobs when he was the boss. Where he'd be totally gray, and then he'd come in the next day and everything was painted. Chap up with a black. And he was just unbelievably black eyebrows.

[Zazie Beetz]

Like Brian Urlacher one day was like, bald, and then it was like, boom. Hair.

[Dan Le Batard]

You can't really do that, I think. I think you have to catch it before you've lost it all. Otherwise, we're going to be doing what we're doing here to Landon Donovan. But I wanted to show you something. Yes. I mean, go ahead.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, I wish. Noted soccer enthusiast and hair expert Mike Ryan was on the show today to talk about this in more detail than I can. But I know this because I follow Landon Donovan there the whole journey. And he flirted with the idea of going to Turkey, and then he decided against it because he felt like that's just too much downtime. So he has what they call a hair unit, which is they shave this part of your head. They put some glue down, and then they put hair on top, like a fully formed toupee. They glue it on, and then they style it afterward. And he was very open about that process on his social media about a year ago.

[Dan Le Batard]

Glued on, you're saying.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, it's like. So if you grab the front of his hair and you pull back, it would just be bald. Like. Like the boxer. Fine bomb. Like the box. Yeah, like the box.

[Greg Cody]

You know.

[Amin Elhassan]

Exactly. Where is that guy, by the way? We're supposed to have that guy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, we've been trying to get him for a couple of months. We fail.

[Amin Elhassan]

So also shout out to my guy, Tyler Murray. You guys accused him of plagiarism. To hell with you, man. You said he stole it. You said he was a thief.

[Zazie Beetz]

Inspiration called him a ration.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

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[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, but what, you're just going to shout him out? Do you have any other objection? Because I felt like. I hinted that Zaz was suggesting that it was stolen, but Zaz denied that.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, Zaz went right along with it. And then at the end of that little portion of the conversation, he said, no, it's inspiration. Yeah. After you call this guy everything but a child of God. Shout out to Kendrick Perkins. I stole that one from him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not worth stealing from him. I don't think so. Let's play on. Let's play for Amin here. Let's show him something that happened. And this is something that happens around here sometimes, which is why celebrities and their publicists do not allow people to come on with us. When Hank Azaria was on with us. I thought that what he said was fairly harmless. It was nice storytelling. We found out that Rainn Wilson and, and Jeremy Strong and Aaron Judge were all sitting in the rafters of MSG because it was such a popular ticket. And look at what the tabloids did to Hank and his publicist. And Hank's not on today because this is what the tabloids did to Hank and his publicist. The headline is Hank Azaria Bashes Taylor Swift as he Name drops a Listers rejected from Nick's celebrity Row. I feel like that's a very unfair appraisal by the New York Post and all Murdoch related news organizations that they just took something that was really easy to do to Hank and made him a Taylor Swift basher. For the Clicks on getting the Swifties mad at Hank.

[Zazie Beetz]

I mean, we didn't bring up Taylor Swift.

[Dan Le Batard]

Agreed. He, you know what he said to me afterward? Because he did. He felt it this weekend. He didn't feel good about that. He's like, man, I've got to remember to do that as Brockmire because nobody takes anything he says seriously. I can get away with anything as Brockmire. If I had just made one of the voices, that wouldn't have happened to me.

[Amin Elhassan]

Also, they weren't in the rafters. I mean, yes, they were. They were in a suite. They had a special suite up there. I walked by it on the way to my media seats and I was like, that looks nice in there. Like they had. It was. All the cool people were in there and they had food and they had drinks and stuff like that. So don't feel bad for Jeremy Strong, who, by the way, everyone saying is going to do a great job as Mark Zuckerberg in the new Social Network.

[Zazie Beetz]

That movie looks good.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, he sounds just like him. It's crazy. He don't look like him, but he sounds like him. And I think that's. That's the key to doing a good Zuck.

[Dan Le Batard]

Where are you on Windhorst's latest reporting on Giannis and the information coming forth now that Giannis has targeted Miami as his preferred destination?

[Amin Elhassan]

Hell yeah. Well, Dan, if you believe the whispers and the murmurs in the back rooms of the NBA Finals, this deal is done. The only reason hasn't been done yet is because they were holding for the end of the Finals. Because time, honor, tradition, you do not hijack the Finals. You do all your big transactions afterwards. So I imagine we're going to see something in the next week or so. But it sounds like I'm not Reporting now.

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[Amin Elhassan]

I'm just a guy who hears what other guys are talking about, but it sounds like Giannis is going to be a Miami Heat, and if he is, that'll mark the second time he instantly becomes the Most famous number 34 in the franchise, stealing it away from Ray Allen.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is why I'm hesitant to do that. The last time, it felt exactly like this was Lillard. And then, well, Lillard.

[Amin Elhassan]

Lillard was different because, remember, there's two things. Number one, it drug out all the way into August. Right. It was a long thing that did not resolve itself. Second of all, there was open animus between the Portland front office and Miami. And in this case, I don't get that feeling from Milwaukee. I feel like, yes, they're trying to get a great deal, but it's not like, oh, hell with those guys anywhere but them. Which is what Portland felt like. The other thing I want to address, you guys said, oh, maybe they're, they're holding out because they don't want to take the Nazis. The Nazis is absolutely going to be part of this deal for two reasons. One, he makes minimum, so it's not like, oh, I can't take on that salary. But the other part of it is you want Thanosis on the team. When you have Giannis, he's contrary popular belief, he's not there just to be a cheerleader and kind of get in and do wacky things in garbage time. The Nazis is the only person Giannis listens to like he's his older brother and still respects him as his older brother. And whenever Giannis is out of line, it's the Gnostic who delivers the message to say, hey, get your head back into this, or whatever. So you absolutely want the Gnostics. He has a great value to the acquiring team. Whoever gets Giannis Antetokounmpo.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can you tell us Amin the history of transactions like that? Goran Dragic did some of that for Zoran, but give me the.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, he didn't.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, he did.

[Amin Elhassan]

Gora told me. Gora told me.

[Greg Cody]

I didn't.

[Amin Elhassan]

Nothing to do with that. They did it because they thought, oh, this will make him happy. But he's like.

[Dan Le Batard]

They checked with him before waving him. Okay, they didn't. They don't do that normally. They.

[Amin Elhassan]

Of course. Well, after you. After you do the transaction. Sure. But the, the acquisition of Zoron to make Goron feel better. That wasn't a Goron request.

[Dan Le Batard]

But give me the other examples that are like that. Those are valuable positions. There are very few of them in the world giving a spot on a bench for a guy. When you trade for him, you're basically trading for two roster spots because you need somebody who is caretaker, babysitter, comfort, blanket, whatever. Give me all the examples in NBA history that you have of something like that.

[Amin Elhassan]

Chris Smith, J.R. smith brother was on the Knicks. He's. He's probably the one that I would say, man, that guy's not an NBA player. And then, and then also JR Smith wasn't exactly the franchise player, so why, why are we bending over backwards for him? And then obviously Bronnie is the one that everyone's gonna say. But I think all those examples pale in comparison than us, right? Because all those comparisons are younger brothers. Slash, in the case of Bronnie, a son, right? And, and, and Giannis has another younger brother, Alex. Right. But that's difference. Like all those guys are like, oh, yeah, it's my little brother, I'd love to have him around, or whatever. The Nazis, I think, plays a role. A Udonis has the mask role, I think, but in this case, for the best player in the franchise. And that's. And that's Giannis. And so to me, I think the Nazis is different in that regard from any other nepotism, kind of, you know, exceptions being made.

[Dan Le Batard]

Give us some final thoughts here as your season, your basketball season has concluded. The most interesting observations that you have from what it is that we just witnessed in the Finals and how rare a story, a basketball story, the Knicks are.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, oddly enough, I would start with Victor Wembanyama, who is so much better than I think any of us believe he'll be this quickly. That this team, that he got his team to be winners this quickly is. Is fairly remarkable. And that he burnt out almost all of his goodwill this quickly is. Is pretty fascinating to watch. I think the Knicks season is tremendous, and it is a testament to teamwork and continuity. And also a big shout out to Mike Brown, a guy that a lot of people question as to hire a guy that a lot of people question. And I'm talking about people in New York. I'm not talking about the national people, the people who are now carrying around on their shoulders. I remember the whispers. I remember all the stuff that people said at the beginning, oh, why are

[Dan Le Batard]

we hiring this guy?

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, he couldn't win with LeBron. Zaz stole my point that I've been making for years, which is, hey, we let, let players grow. Why don't we ever let coaches grow? The idea that Mike Brown is the Same guy in 2026 as he was in 2007 is patently ridiculous. And so I'm very happy and proud for Mike Brown that he showed his value in many of the way, same way Steve Kerr showed his value 11 years ago in Golden State. And I think the Giannis move is going to trigger a series of other moves around the league as we're going to see, especially in the Eastern Conference. The arms race start to heat up. And one last thing, I'll go to my dying grave. Oklahoma City Thunder. If they don't get hurt, they're probably the champs today.

[Dan Le Batard]

What other kind of grave is there other than a dying grave?

[Amin Elhassan]

You could be buried alive. I don't know if you've seen that.

[Zazie Beetz]

Biscuits and graves.

[Amin Elhassan]

Great point, E. I think the Thunder are going to destroy them. Yeah. And then two guys got hurt like that. It's it. It would be like if two of the Knicks best players Biscuits and Graves. Crazy. Yeah, I liked it, Chris. I thought it was a good try. But yeah, it would be like if the the next two best ball handlers for the next got hurt as well. Like if, if Hart and and Ano get hurt.

[Zazie Beetz]

Yo, they lost.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't understand. I don't understand why people cannot fathom, cannot grasp that. Yeah, when someone makes a prediction, it's based on the available information and not secret information that no one knows because it hasn't happened yet.

[Dan Le Batard]

Here's what you said.

[Amin Elhassan]

I think the Thunder are gonna destroy them. You can't.

[Dan Le Batard]

You can't be right.

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