Are We Going to Heaven? | Hour 2

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show: "Are We Going to Heaven?" – Hour 2 (July 31, 2026)

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Episode Overview

Broadcast live from Miami’s Elser Hotel, this episode finds Dan Le Batard and crew riffing on everything from superhero movies and the afterlife to Miami Dolphins trivia and AI fakes in sports. In its typical style—irreverent, witty, spontaneous—the group debates whether any of them are bound for heaven, what constitutes living life well, and mixes in signature games and pop culture banter. Listeners get both sharp comedic takes and oddly deep conversations about mortality, sports fandom, and the randomness of modern life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Spider-Man: Movie Reviews & Texting in Theaters

• Dan shares he saw the new "Spider-Man: Brand New Day," despite a savage early review from Mike Ryan Ruiz.
• Mike Ryan’s review: “This is the worst superhero movie ever. He hated it.” – (00:49, Zaslow).
• Dan defends the film, referencing its 98% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
• The crew jokes about checking phones during movies, with Dan admitting to checking his phone at least once in every feature due to the length of movies today.
  • “I can’t be completely incommunicado.” – Dan (02:01)

2. Social Media, Living Right, and “Going to Heaven?”

• Discussion pivots to whether having (or not having) social media is a virtue.
  • “My wife has no social media. Great for me.” – Dan (03:21)
  • Damshek: “Not having TV in the 20th century was weird, now it’s not having social media.” (03:27)
• Prompted by Damshek, the group takes on: “Are you going to heaven?” (04:00)
  • Dan: “I feel like the thing that doesn’t get you into heaven is if you kill someone. After that, it’s debatable. I think you got a pretty good shot.” (05:06)
  • Zaslow debates whether murder is a clear-cut deal-breaker—“What if I saved 100 million lives but murdered one guy?” (05:54)
• The group explores the “rules” and logic of heaven and wonders about recognizing loved ones in the afterlife.
  • “What do they look like? Do I recognize them? Did they age?” – Dan (07:47)
  • Damshek: “If there is a heaven, when I die, imagine how euphoric it’d be… This place really exists, I get to live forever!” (07:42)

3. Philosophy & Sincerity: Dan’s Views on Heaven, Hell, and Science

• Dan clarifies his agnostic position: “I definitely don’t believe in hell. I believe in science. I believe in things that can be proven… Maybe there’s heaven, maybe there’s not. I have no proof.” (09:43 – 10:00)
• Zaslow role-plays: Would Dan, as a “man of science,” be stopped at heaven’s gates?
  • Dan: “I thought you didn’t believe in this shit, now you want in? That does worry me.” (11:04)

4. Ghost vs. Heaven: Where Would You Haunt?

• Damshek says he’d choose to be a ghost, haunting Pittsburgh’s sports venues eternally.
  • “Ghost might be better than heaven.” – Damshek (14:16)
• The crew jokes that being a ghost is like “yelling at your TV all the time” but being unable to change the channel. (14:25, Zaslow)
• Zaslow touts heaven as supreme: “Heaven is the most awesome place. Anything you want, you got it…” (14:16)

5. Entrance Songs to Heaven — Comic Relief

• The group debates their entrance songs for heaven.
  • Zaslow: “What would you do if I sang out of tune?” (18:24, quoting The Beatles)
  • Chris Cody: “I was thinking Fly Like an Eagle… actually, I meant I Believe I Can Fly.” (19:15–19:22)
  • Dan: “Imagine walking into heaven to that song.” (19:28)
  • Zaslow: “I believe he’s not walking into heaven.” (19:31)

6. Generational Gaps and Pop Culture

• Dan’s son is going to see rapper Yeet, leading to jokes about feeling old.
  • “My son’s going to see Yeet… his name’s just Yeet.” – Dan (21:00)

7. Dolphins Hall of Fame Trivia (Mr. Lister Segment)

• Dave Damshek hosts a Dolphins-focused version of “Mr. Lister,” challenging Zaslow and Chris Cody to name Miami Dolphins Hall of Famers.
  • Zaslow: “Dan Marino.” Cody: “Larry Csonka.” (22:42)
  • Chris faltering leads to playful shaming: “It’s embarrassing for you. You know, it’s your turn, right?” – Dan (23:41)
• Classic Miami Dolphins names fly as both test their knowledge and rib each other.

8. Creed Movie Franchise Mini-Review

• Chris Cody watched "Creed" for the first time and shares thoughts. The group debates whether Creed 2 is better than 1.
  • “Creed 2’s all nostalgia” – Dan (28:42)
  • “Rocky’s not in Creed 3, right?” – Dan (29:25)
  • Damshek wishes for a prequel about Apollo’s heyday. (30:08)

9. AI or Not AI: Sports Photos & Videos

• Debut of “AI or Not AI,” a segment where the group guesses whether viral images/videos are AI-generated or real.
  • Bijan Robinson’s photo: “That is AI.” – Dan (35:59)
  • Tony Romo’s supposed arrest video: “That is AI.” – Dan (37:35)
  • Kirk Cousins fake locker room rant: “That is AI… in the corner it says ‘AI’.” – Chris Cody (39:05)
  • Allen Iverson’s pic: “That is AI.” (40:09)
• The team finds both the humor and the slippery nature of AI in sports fandom.

10. Big Game or Not a Big Game: Family & Life Moments

• Recurring Friday finale: Is this a big deal or not?
  • Chris Cody: Back-to-school shopping—“That’s not a big game.” (41:13)
  • Zaslow: Trying to stay awake seeing Spider-Man with kids—“That’s big game.” (41:48)
  • Tony: Going home to see his daughter walking for the first time—“That’s a big game. Put bumpers on those tables.” (42:13)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mike Ryan (via Zaslow): “This is the worst superhero movie ever.” (00:49)
• Dan on religion and science: “I’m a man of science. I believe in science. I believe in things that can be proven… Maybe there’s heaven, maybe there’s not. I have no proof.” (09:50–10:00)
• Dan on heaven’s admission standards: “If you murder someone, you’re not getting into heaven. But everything else, I feel you got a really good shot.” (05:16)
• Dave Damshek on ghost ambitions: “I would love to attend my own funeral just to see who shows up. I want to ghost in mine… That seems—ghost might be better than heaven.” (13:45)
• Zaslow’s take on heaven: “Heaven is the most awesome place. Anything you want, you got it.” (14:16)
• Dan, joking about AI: “The answer is that is AI. Oh, wow.” (40:09)
• Dan, after Tony’s milestone: “That’s a big game. Put the bumpers on those tables.” (42:13)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00–03:00 – Spider-Man movie banter and checking phones in the theater.
• 04:00–09:00 – Social media, life philosophies, opening “are we going to heaven?” segment.
• 09:43–11:04 – Dan on science vs. faith; worries about being “man of science” at heaven’s gates.
• 12:04–14:36 – Ghosts vs. heaven debate; attending your own funeral as a ghost.
• 18:18–19:45 – Heaven entrance songs (comic relief: R. Kelly, Beatles, Steve Miller Band).
• 21:00–22:00 – Dan’s son going to see rapper "Yeet" (pop culture generation gap).
• 22:07–27:00 – Dolphins Hall of Fame “Mr. Lister” trivia game.
• 28:00–33:00 – Creed & Rocky movie franchise roundtable.
• 34:52–40:15 – "AI or Not AI" segment (sports images, videos, and the confusion over what’s real).
• 40:24–42:25 – “Big Game or Not a Big Game?” (parenting, shopping, and small life victories).

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Tone & Style

• Irreverent, quick-witted, occasionally poignant.
• Signature Le Batard blend: deep topics approached with a playful skepticism, cutting one-liners, and deep Miami sports fandom.

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Useful Takeaways

• The episode’s playful, probing “are we going to heaven?” theme lets listeners see the lighter (and weirder) sides of pondering morality and the afterlife.
• AI’s impact on sports and pop culture is both hilarious and concerning—the crew’s ability to spot fakes is as shaky as most listeners.
• Long-time fans will love the inside jokes (Miami Dolphins ring of honor, “Mr. Lister” trivia, generational pop music references), while new listeners can appreciate the balance of existential conversation and classic sports talk.
• The segment structure keeps things jumping—no topic lingers too long, and games like “AI or Not AI” and “Big Game or Not a Big Game” provide breezy closure.

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Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

You are listening to the Dan Levatar show in partnership with the DraftKings sports app, now live in all 50 states. I saw Spider man last night. Saw the new Spider Man.

[Tony]

Which home is. It is like coming home on the way home. Homecoming.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is Spider Man. Homeless. No, it's called Brand New Day. All right, all right.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The. So I haven't seen it. I will see it tomorrow with my kids.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are you into it?

[Tony]

He's going to the movie theater.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm going to movie. Well, I go to movies with my kids. Kids want to see a movie, we're going to go see it. So I'll go. I'm going to hope to stay awake, but. Got a early review from one Michael Ryan Ruiz.

[Dan Le Batard]

I did, too.

[Tony]

What did he say?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He said, and I quote, this is

[Dan Le Batard]

the worst superhero movie ever. He hated it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He hated it. He is the only person I have heard that opinion from.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, me too. I mean, it's incredibly high. 98% on rotten tomatoes. Like, really high scores. Okay. It can't go down that much when it's 98% right now.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Here we go.

[Dave Damshek]

This is 6% on Metacritic, though.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

One of the worst comic book movies I've ever seen. Brutal watch. That can be entirely skipped. Not a single thing of consequence happens in this one.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, that's not true. It's just not true.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And then he says something about Tom Holland that I will not repeat.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was in the middle of the movie, and he just. He sends me a text. He goes, spider man effing sucked. I'm in the middle of the movie. And he said that I'm. And I'm enjoying the movie. I liked it.

[Dave Damshek]

Why are you checking your texts in a movie?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Because he's not a movie guy.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a good question. I, you know, like the phone. I. I pull it out every. I don't know, like, every hour during the movies are long these days. It's not like you're in there for 90 minutes. You're in and out. Every movie now is two and a half hours. And, you know, over the course of two and a half hours, I gotta check once or twice, make sure everything's okay on the home front.

[Dave Damshek]

Stop.

[Dan Le Batard]

I can't be completely incommunicado.

[Chris Cody]

You're going down on the brightness, of course.

[Dan Le Batard]

Come on. Yeah. Come on, man. All the way down. Brightness. All the way down on the sound.

[Dave Damshek]

My.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't have to worry about the ringer. My phone has been on silent for about 15 years.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I don't worry about the ringer either.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I don't have to worry about Bill Simmons checking.

[Dave Damshek]

I don't do that either, but. So go ahead. Are you going to go against. Are you glass half full against Mike Ryan's glass half empty?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Mike Ryan would know a good movie. Smacked him in the face. All right. Like, it's. It's a good movie.

[Chris Cody]

Just say you want to check your phone, though.

[Dave Damshek]

The whole.

[Chris Cody]

I'm checking in on the home front.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I got to make sure.

[Chris Cody]

Talking about, what are you when you're out, right? Like, when you're at work throughout the whole day, are you just like, let me make sure everyone's still okay? Like, you're just like you. Unless you get a phone call, like, shit's hitting the fan, you assume everything's.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And guess the Cherokees are attacking us.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, guess what? I wouldn't get that phone call. I just told you my phone's on silent. I wouldn't get the phone call.

[Chris Cody]

It's been an hour. My family's safe.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, that's right. That's exactly how long it took. One safe. Yeah.

[Dave Damshek]

You just check your voice? You just checked your text messages or. Let's be honest, did you check social media?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What if your wife tweeted to help? My wife has sos. Save us, Iroquois.

[Dan Le Batard]

Believe it or not, my wife has no social media.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

White Tamra's not on.

[Tony]

Good for you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Great for me. She has no social media.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You don't know about that algorithm?

[Dan Le Batard]

She knows this has become the new

[Dave Damshek]

version of the 20th century thing was people like, I don't have a TV in my home. Like, well, you're a weirdo then. I mean, what do you mean? You're intentionally trying to stiff arm the rest of society. You don't want to be an active member of what is going down in pop culture and otherwise.

[Tony]

Come on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. My wife has none of it. It's a good deal.

[Dave Damshek]

Let me ask you that. I don't know if being on social media accounts is living over, merely surviving, but I'm big on doing the former, not the latter. And I wonder.

[Dan Le Batard]

Check my phone, by the way. Everything's good.

[Dave Damshek]

Oh, thank goodness. When you take a look at the man in the mirror, do you ever ask the question, are you going to heaven?

[Dan Le Batard]

Whatever. Asked myself.

[Dave Damshek]

I'm asking you now. Forget about asking yourself. I'm asking you. You going to heaven?

[Tony]

This is a real question.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. Well, okay.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So you're going to heaven.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, hold on a second. Hold on.

[Dave Damshek]

If you're going.

[Chris Cody]

We're all going.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on a second. We're assuming. I like, we're gonna play Fantasy Land where we're assuming I believe in heaven. We're gonna, like, just.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

What do you mean?

[Tony]

I wouldn't say that to the rabbi.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Those bonds are not getting.

[Dave Damshek]

We're not getting into. Not doing the game of. We're not debating the afterlife. We are assuming there is an afterlife, as has been laid out in our culture, in our society. What the tenants are that get you into heaven versus getting sick.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, so we're going to play fantasy Land. Yes, I. I do believe. I feel like the. I feel like the thing that doesn't get you into heaven is if you kill someone like that, to me, that's like.

[Chris Cody]

Or littering back to back on a Highway within 30 seconds.

[Dan Le Batard]

To me, I feel like if you kill someone, you're definitely not getting it to heave. And after that, it's. It's like debatable. Like, I think you got a pretty good shot.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I think it's debatable if you kill someone. We got to have. We got to have a conversation. Like, what were the circumstances?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I mean, I guess obviously, you know, self defense. Okay. You know, but accident. If you murder someone, if you let me do it like that. If you murder.

[Tony]

Saying cold blood.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, no, no, it could be warm blood. If you murder someone, you're not getting into heaven. But everything else, I feel you got a really good.

[Chris Cody]

In this hypothetical, there's someone up there that's kind of looking down and surveying this and assessing everybody. I think there's three, like, buckets. You put some. Like, if I'm looking down, definitely getting to heaven. Definitely not getting to heaven. And I'm not sure yet. I think that's where I fall on the fence. I think I'm in the way. Like, I think he's just like. We go either way with this one, Zaz.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What if I saved hundreds of millions of lives?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But then I did murder someone. Like, it's off me. Balls off me. Right? Like, I. Absolutely. It's murder, first degree, whatever, even if I get caught. But I saved all these lives, I say.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, I did so many good.

[Dave Damshek]

You didn't do either of those. You didn't do either one of those things. I don't think or may. I don't know what you're in your history, but are you. Are you bound for. For the clouds?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, it's not. I wouldn't put it 100 million lives. Say, man, hold on. I got to do some math here. Scary, the two. Oh, thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

But I would use the same logic.

[Dave Damshek]

I don't know if this gets you out, this knocks you out of heaven, but I do think it's very weir that Amin has for many moons now done a movie podcast, and yet he hasn't seen the Odyssey. Why? Because he knows he'll fall asleep in it. What are we

[Chris Cody]

all right, Football America. Like, you've never fallen asleep in that four o' clock window.

[Dave Damshek]

Jeez, I've never fallen asleep in a movie. No, I got me. I can't fall.

[Chris Cody]

You're the football guy. You've taken a nap in the four o' clock window. You've taken a nap in the four o' clock window.

[Dave Damshek]

Ever. Never. Never. I, I, I really don't. I think that there.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, but see, that's semantics. What Dave is doing now, because he lives on the west coast, there's no such thing as a four o' clock window.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Damn it.

[Dave Damshek]

I'm like, zaz, though, I think that people who live their lives by some code that is going to get them into heaven. Those people are weird. And people who assume that heaven awaits them. Heaven or hell, I think it's got to be kind of like it's going to be not that exciting if when you die and you're like, oh, I

[Dan Le Batard]

made it to heaven good.

[Dave Damshek]

I was hoping that this would work out, but whereas I and I, it sounds like that's like, if there is a heaven, when I die, imagine how euphoric will be. Like, what?

[Dan Le Batard]

This place really exists. I get to live forever.

[Chris Cody]

All right.

[Dave Damshek]

It's going to be way better to be in our head space, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

As I just. My biggest question, Dave, when it comes to, Again, we're, you know, we're, we're in fantasy land right now. If there is a heaven. My biggest concern. It's not a concern. I guess my biggest question is, okay, there's this idea that you're going to be able to be around while Amin continues to do math over there. If we're going to be around, we're going to get to see again the people who we've missed, right? Like family members or friends. We get to be reunited with them. My big question is, what do they look like? What do I look. Do they recognize me? Do I recognize them? Did they age all this time? What do I look like to them? What do they look like to me? Isn't that, like, a valid question? And if we're making it to heaven and reuniting with people. What do we look like?

[Dave Damshek]

Maybe God's at the gate and he's like, I'm going to see. Guess what? Great news. You're into heaven. I'd be like, hey, hey, God, talk me into a little bit. Tell me what's in it for me. That's what you're saying, Zaz. Like, I. Yeah, the idea of meeting up with my loved ones. But tell me more before I sign off and enter into eternal. Pass those eternal gates.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yes.

[Dave Damshek]

Oh, good for a meme.

[Dan Le Batard]

You got the answer. It's yes.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

All right.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I mean, if it all ended right now.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

A couple hours from now. I don't know. I can't. Like, dude, look, we're right on the I'm not firmly in the yes, but I'm in the yes. But future events might change that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I really think for me, it's about murder. If I could avoid murdering someone.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Good. You're good. You're in the clear if you don't murder.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, you think that again, we're playing fantasy land. That heaven exists. Yeah, I think I'm definitely in that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay. You keep saying that.

[Dan Le Batard]

If I rob a bank, what you rob it for?

[Chris Cody]

For my family.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think. I think you could get a pass then.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So let me get this straight. You keep saying fantasy land, right? Yeah. Are you implying that you do not believe in heaven and hell?

[Chris Cody]

We're not doing that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, I just want to ask. I want to ask.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, first of all, I definitely don't believe in hell. Okay.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

And I'm implying that I'm. I'm not implying that I don't believe in heaven.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It kind of feels like.

[Dan Le Batard]

But I am. I am straight up telling you I'm a man. Science. I believe in science. I believe in things that can be proven. That. That me. Now, maybe there's heaven, maybe there's not. I have no proof.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So. Okay, so let's role play here, Right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yep.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Zaz, you die. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. He dies, we have the funeral. Everyone white. White timer. Sad. Everyone's sad. Your kids are sad. And then, you know, life goes on. And then Zaz was awesome. Judgment day happens, and you're risen from the grave. You're like, oh, my gosh, wait a second. It's real. And then you get there and it's like, white Tamra, welcome to heaven. Here's your past. Hey, Zaz. Kids.

[Tony]

There you go.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

There's one for you, one for you. Your grandchildren's.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, well.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And then you Say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, big timer, where do you think you're going? They stop you there? He said, I'm with them. And you say, hold up, guys, I'll

[Tony]

be in a sec.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

We heard you and like, ah, hold on, let me look at my notes here. But I'm pretty sure, yeah, there it is.

[Chris Cody]

You're under Donovan's ass. Low.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It says here you a man of science. Hey, hey, Peter, we got a man of science out, right? He's about to get into heaven.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know, I know. And that does worry me. Like, I have thought of that. It should worry you a little bit. That does worry me.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

This is my part.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't want to get there. And they're like, yo, I thought you didn't believe in this shit. Now you want to take part? Like, yeah, that does worry me.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

This is my thing, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, that's why I'm not saying I don't believe in it. I'm just saying I believe in what can be.

[Tony]

You said fantasy land.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You call it a fantasy land?

[Tony]

Fantasy land.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

We're playing this fantasy land. I'm a man of science. I'm going to tell you this to everyone. I'm not trying to convert anyone to any religion. I'm just telling you, hey. The religions all say, hey, if you. If you're a good person, you do good things, you're going to go to heaven. All right, cool. So, like, the extra act from you as a person who does not believe in religion, does not believe in heaven or hell or whatever.

[Dan Le Batard]

I do believe in religion.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You want to live as a good person in general, right? As a decent human being. All right. It's just like one extra step to believe in heaven. Like, that's. It does not change your day at all. It's just like, you know what? Like, like, yeah, I'm in on this heaven thing.

[Mike Ryan]

And that's it.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's all you gotta do, right? That's why I'm not gonna sit here and tell you.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You just did. You call it fantasy land.

[Dan Le Batard]

You said fantasy land. Well, you know, we're living on the clouds.

[Tony]

Feels a little kind of fantasy kind of thing.

[Dave Damshek]

Delude yourself a mean to be a good person. That's the entire thing. The institution of religion exists to control the masses and to give them a reason to behave themselves collectively and be members of society or otherwise. You know, 500 years ago, 2,000 years ago, there wasn't a straightforward line when we were subsistence existing outside of a very small percentage of human beings. We were living day to day you had to go out and get food to live another day. So you needed a purpose to your life that transcended the poor quality of life that we have. But as we sit here now, Zaz, I feel like maybe we've put a stink on being a ghost. I wouldn't mind being a ghost.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, being a ghost would be sick to hang around.

[Dave Damshek]

Like, if you get. If you get to pick where you go, like, I would just be a ghost in Pittsburgh and just haunt, you know, PNC park and Steelers games and Penguins games for the rest of my days.

[Chris Cody]

Okay.

[Dave Damshek]

Eternity.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So a couple of things. Number one, you were talking about, you know, thousands of years ago. We were living day to day. I said, oh, like someone on hard knocks.

[Dan Le Batard]

But family's safe, by the way.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Thank God. But a ghost, that's even worse because you know what a ghosts are? Ghosts are people. Like, everyone else is in heaven.

[Tony]

They're caught in the middle, and then,

[Jonathan Zaslow]

like, they're like, hey, hey, dad, you coming with us? Like, I'm gonna hang out here for a little bit. Why you hang out in the parking lot? Like, just, you know, I want to go see.

[Tony]

Do my thing.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah. See my family.

[Dan Le Batard]

Come on, now. You know about ghost.

[Chris Cody]

You were asking me. We were talking earlier about, like, look, lifting your window on a plane. That's. I gotta see what I'm looking for. Heaven. I'm like, what's that? What's going on out here?

[Tony]

Good point. Good point.

[Dave Damshek]

But as a vain person, not a good point.

[Tony]

Good point by him.

[Dave Damshek]

I would love to attend my own funeral just to see who shows up. I would like to ghost in mine. I want to see what goes down there, and I want to hear what people say about me when I'm not around and that I would have that opportunity again for. For a long time. And then when those people all die off and they ascend to the heavens to hang around the clouds, like, that sounds like a fun experience. No, I'll be hanging around the places I know and enjoyed and just watching games and movies and all that sort of thing. That seems ghost might be better than heaven.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No way. Heaven is the most awesome place. Anything you want, you got it. Like, oh, I really like some alcohol.

[Tony]

Streets of Gold. You ever heard of that?

[Chris Cody]

Jumping from cloud to cloud, like, ghost

[Jonathan Zaslow]

is like, you have to. It's like a movie that you watch that is about you with featuring people you know, you can't do anything about it. You ever yell at your tv? That's what being a ghost is. It's yelling at Your TV all the time.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. Now what if you're saying in heaven you can, you can do, you get, you could do whatever you want. What if in heaven you want to murder someone?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, you can do that.

[Tony]

They don't know that doesn't happen.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yes, in heaven. Here's the thing. If I want to murder someone, first of all, if I was the type of person who wanted to murder people, probably not going to end up in heaven.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh. So even just thinking about the desire,

[Jonathan Zaslow]

the desire to murder, of course. What's your idea? That it's an itch that you need to scratch, like that's automatically you're not doing it.

[Dan Le Batard]

What, you want to deal with Zaz?

[Dave Damshek]

Of course Zaz and I are going to be ghosts. A bunch of squares. Bunch of self righteous squares. Oh, I never thought about murder even once. How dare you? Oh, I'm too pure to have ever considered such things.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Fat.

[Dave Damshek]

I'm going to be down there watch, by the way. Oh, whatever you want. Well, I want to see all my teams win championships. There's not going to be any excitement about seeing that. When I wish for it to happen, be like, yeah, that's what I just wish for was, was to see that kind of unsatisfying without any suspense.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Levitar.

[Dave Damshek]

I hope he goes to your town so I can laugh because you think he'll make you a contender?

[Dan Le Batard]

Who's that impression of the sports guy?

[Chris Cody]

Oh.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, do some more.

[Mike Ryan]

What part of Massachusetts is that?

[Dan Le Batard]

Let me hear some more. Dave Demichek.

[Dave Damshek]

I don't do a good Simmons, but that's what I'm doing right now.

[Chris Cody]

That's maybe the worst cinematic I've ever heard. Hey, man, that's a bad impression.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levitar show.

[Tony]

Yeah, Dave, I get it, but heaven could be anything, right? I mean, always says the Family Guy joke. It's like, that's a boat behind that door.

[Dan Le Batard]

What's the mystery?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The mystery box. Could be anything.

[Tony]

It could be anything. What if in heaven, you could actually play for your favorite team and win championships?

[Dan Le Batard]

How about that?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Now we're talking.

[Dave Damshek]

How about that short term victory? Because, like, you know, you know, Chaz Sheen basically showed us the path there. He had any woman he wanted, and he could do whatever, and. And so he had to dabble in homosexuality to feel something, you know, he had. And I think that's where life would take you. Is that what you want to mean? Is that what you're saying you want?

[Dan Le Batard]

You want that? You want the same path as Chastener?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Guys want to walk around, like, thinking about murder but not being able to do anything about it because you're a ghost. All you can do is, like, you scared some people. Congratulations.

[Dave Damshek]

I'd be great to be able to haunt people you didn't like. If you want to murder somebody, better yet, just haunt them endlessly. Just ruin their lives. Not. Not once over, like, well, now I killed you and the pain's over. No, I'm gonna torment you for the next 27 years, guy who was mean to me in seventh grade.

[Chris Cody]

If you guys could pick your heaven entrance song, what would be your entrance song?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, great question. Great question.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What would you do if I sang out of tune?

[Dave Damshek]

Oh, no, it's Here I come again.

[Chris Cody]

That's Here comes.

[Tony]

You don't get the place.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, that's gonna be some Pearl Jam or some dumb like that.

[Chris Cody]

I was thinking Fly like an Eagle, but that's an inappropriate song at this point.

[Tony]

No, you're good. Fly like an Eagle. You're good.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, the old one.

[Tony]

Steve Miller Band.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Okay, back.

[Dan Le Batard]

So I liked Spider Man. I will tell you, though, if you're going to see Spider man this weekend, it. It's really good. Mike Ryan is the only person that I've Heard that has a negative feeling about it, and he hated it. But I will tell you this about Spider Man. It is not like the other Spider man movies. Like it is. It is a serious Spider man movie. The other ones are kind of jokey. Obviously, the other three, they're still in high school. This is a serious Spider Man.

[Chris Cody]

That's on me. I meant I Believe I can fly.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I was like, fly like an eagle by Seal. Fly like anything.

[Chris Cody]

The R. Kelly song I Believe I can fly.

[Tony]

Bad all day.

[Dan Le Batard]

All day you've been bad.

[Chris Cody]

I know we're out on R. Kelly, but imagine walking into heaven to that song again.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I believe he's not walking into heaven.

[Dave Damshek]

Sky.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I think about it every night and day.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, my God, here comes Chris Cody.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Then fly away, I believe.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, my God, I've been sent to hell.

[Dave Damshek]

I didn't even realize it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I see him walking through that open door. I believe I can fly I can fly, I can fly I believe this

[Dave Damshek]

is what goes on in heaven. No, thanks.

[Chris Cody]

Space Jam soundtrack.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I have to do this every single time R. Kelly comes up because everyone gets really uncomfortable. Oh, we can't do the R. Kelly songs. Guys, guys. The settlement with the victims is. He get. They get the money, anything for his streams. Every time you stream his music, he doesn't get that money. The victims get the money.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, I'm back.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So when you say, I don't want to play R. Kelly songs, you know what you're doing? You're taking away victims. I don't want you to have this money.

[Chris Cody]

Best remix ever.

[Tony]

Wishing

[Jonathan Zaslow]

it's a freaking weekend. About to have me some fun.

[Tony]

Zaz, you know about that. Bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He's bumping his head.

[Tony]

He is.

[Dave Damshek]

He is.

[Dan Le Batard]

He sounded good in the stretch.

[Tony]

Navigator.

[Dan Le Batard]

My son is going to a show this weekend here. My son goes to all the rap concerts. Loves rap, loves hip hop. My son's going to see an artist this weekend I have never even heard of.

[Dave Damshek]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you know who Yeet is?

[Tony]

Yeah, Yeet. I do know who Yeet is.

[Dan Le Batard]

My son's going to see Yeet.

[Tony]

What?

[Dan Le Batard]

Joey USO says Yeet. Yeah, I guess. I mean, Tony seems to know.

[Tony]

I know.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, he's a rapper, but, like, his name's just Yeet.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right.

[Chris Cody]

I mean.

[Dave Damshek]

Oh, he also knows ball. I should point out, as anybody who's listened to him take on Tashay in Mr. Lister. TNT Mr. Lister. Tony, I want to pull the curtain back, if I may. Football America is coming at you on Friday as it does every Week. But we tried to record it yesterday, and after a Gangbusters episode, I was informed that none of it recorded two great reviews. And really the highlight for me, as great as the interviews were, was Mr. Lister. Tony V. Our own Buddy Budowski on football. America, I'm going to spoil it for you because you're never going to experience it. Tony embarrassed Buddy Budowski. And now, if you wouldn't mind, I'd like to resurrect this. And I'm going to call on Mr. Lister. Here we go. Zaz v. Chris Cody.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Let's get.

[Chris Cody]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow. I'm ready for this.

[Dave Damshek]

Today we went at this one. Tony and Buddy did this one.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right.

[Dave Damshek]

And embarrassed themselves both. Tony a little less than Buddy did. I'm going to do it with you guys. Now the category Pro Football hall of Famers from the Miami Dolphins. Zaz, you're up first. Pro football. Not Ring of honor in Miami or any of that crap gold jacket guy. And they don't have to be primarily Miami Dolphins. They merely have to have played or toiled on some level professionally. Okay, for the Dolphins.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, we'll start out easy. We'll go with Dan Marino.

[Chris Cody]

Larry's on.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Damn, that was mine.

[Chris Cody]

Larry Zanka.

[Dan Le Batard]

We will go now with Bob.

[Dave Damshek]

I love the vamping that this game leads to.

[Dan Le Batard]

We will now Miami Dolphin Hall. We'll go Bob Griesy.

[Dave Damshek]

So we're talking about hall of Famers here, right? Is that what we're talking about? Hall of Fame? The way people vamp around.

[Tony]

I'm Dracula in this. In this game.

[Chris Cody]

If we were doing Dolphins Ring of Honor, I feel like I could play a lot better because I know they're ring of honor guys, but I don't know which of those guys.

[Dave Damshek]

Cody, give us a name.

[Chris Cody]

I'm gonna go with.

[Tony]

You know this.

[Dan Le Batard]

Come on, relax. Go with easy One just has to have played a single game with the Dolphins.

[Dave Damshek]

Doesn't even have to have been between.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's bad that you're stumped right now this early. It's bad.

[Dave Damshek]

Could have been on the sideline, standing there.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a bad look.

[Dave Damshek]

I mean, this is a shame. Are you. All your days have been spent in Miami, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's embarrassing for you. You know, it's your turn, right?

[Chris Cody]

Oh, it's my. I thought it's your turn.

[Dan Le Batard]

Get the hell out of here.

[Dave Damshek]

I gave zaz. I gave 37 clues to get them to Bob Greasy, Joy Taylor's brother.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, fine. Zach Thomas. All right, back to you.

[Dave Damshek]

Damn.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay,

[Chris Cody]

I'm gonna go With See? God, there's so many guys I'm thinking of. I just don't think they're actual NFL hall of Famers.

[Dave Damshek]

Oh, yeah. You have so many names. That's your problem. You have too many names to give you. Which shall you give for it next?

[Chris Cody]

Tim Bowens.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nope. Tim Bones. Love Tim Bowens, but not.

[Chris Cody]

That's what I mean. I. I know all. Like Daryl Garden. I can just start rattling off.

[Dan Le Batard]

You think Daryl Garden is the. I love Daryl Gardner. You think he's in the hall of Fame?

[Dave Damshek]

You can't try, Cody.

[Dan Le Batard]

Embarrassing. He is trying. He's getting him wrong.

[Chris Cody]

What do you mean? It's your turn.

[Dan Le Batard]

You haven't got. You haven't gotten one. I do. Do I need one more just for the win. Is that we're doing here then? Yeah, yeah, one more.

[Dave Damshek]

You've already won because you went first here. And you.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'll even go off the board here. I'll go off the board. I'll go with someone who.

[Dave Damshek]

Who.

[Dan Le Batard]

Who had a cameo in a Dolphins uniform and is in the hall of Fame. Thurman Thomas.

[Dave Damshek]

Yep. There you go.

[Mike Ryan]

Hey, Chris.

[Dave Damshek]

Corner expert. Level performance out of Zaslow. I've been celebrating, Tony, and I think I've been following. Celebrating a false champion here.

[Tony]

See?

[Dave Damshek]

You see that? When you step up in grade, Zaslow can take these all off.

[Chris Cody]

Mark Duper.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nope. I'll go with another one that only only played for a few years for the Dolphins, but he was a good Dolphin. Junior Seow.

[Dave Damshek]

Very nice.

[Dan Le Batard]

Zazlow's hot.

[Dave Damshek]

There's another one that kind of fits the way you're describing these guys. Much more associated with other teams, but nevertheless has a gold jacket and did play for the Dolphins. Well, I like that same basic area.

[Chris Cody]

Dante Culpepper.

[Dan Le Batard]

No. Now you're embarrassing the show. It was one thing. You embarrassed yourself. You've already done that. Now you're embarrassing the show.

[Dave Damshek]

Zach Thomas. I'll give you a Paul Warfield there.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was my next one. Was Warfield.

[Dave Damshek]

Area of the line of scripture on the offensive line.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I want. I want to.

[Dave Damshek]

Connie.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to get the one, though, that you're referencing that only had a very. Like, had a cameo with the dolphins.

[Chris Cody]

O.J. mcDuffie.

[Dave Damshek]

No. This guy scored a lot of touchdowns. Was known for that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Good.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, this is. I'm embarrassed. This guy wore a Dolphin jersey. Chris Carter.

[Dave Damshek]

Very nice.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, he does.

[Dave Damshek]

There's one big name out there. Or you guys. You guys should definitely get this one. And I don't want to say More than what, you know, play or what? But there's a guy who you should definitely get where? Where?

[Chris Cody]

Thurman Thomas.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, for crying out loud.

[Tony]

No else played for this team.

[Dan Le Batard]

Steve Martin. So annoying. He's so annoying.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Dan Levitar analytics have. Are ruining the game. We're playing AI Hoops.

[Dave Damshek]

That's his team.

[Dan Le Batard]

His team's at the forefront of all that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Don't steal my son.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. Jonathan Saslow. I get carried away. This is the Dan Levatar Show.

[Tony]

See, Dave, this is how you can't. You can't really talk about my champion. Ness. When you look at Zaz and he thinks, inside the box, man, this is a guy who just always. Inside the box. You know where my answers were. Don Shuler, hall of Famer, Miami Dolphin. Okay, Jimmy Johnson, outside of the box.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's good. Yeah, that's good.

[Dave Damshek]

Jimmy Johnson. You didn't come up.

[Tony]

What are you doing there?

[Dave Damshek]

That's who I was trying to lead Zaz to, because now I'm talking to a true expert. You're a paper Champagne Tony claiming Jimmy Johnson. You didn't get Jimmy Johnson. I didn't say.

[Tony]

I said Jimmy Johnson.

[Dave Damshek]

You just said like I just said.

[Tony]

I said. I said. I said Don Shula. Which I did say.

[Dave Damshek]

I felt to me like you were also giving yourself credit for saying Jimmy Johnson when you didn't say Jimmy Johnson.

[Tony]

Well, let's go back to the tape.

[Dave Damshek]

Nah, sadly, we cannot do that. Boy, oh, boy. Let's. You know, I enjoy Mr. Lister. It gets you right for football season.

[Dan Le Batard]

I like it. I like it. I want to play again next week. I like it. So I saw Spider man last night.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah?

[Dan Le Batard]

Chris saw a movie for the first time.

[Chris Cody]

That's right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Last night as well.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He's never seen a movie before.

[Chris Cody]

Seems like it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Get a load of this. I mean, what Chris finally decided to sit down and watch last night.

[Chris Cody]

Creed.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow.

[Tony]

What a film.

[Chris Cody]

Great film.

[Dan Le Batard]

What a movie.

[Chris Cody]

I found the final fight a little unrealistic with how shut his eye was. His left eye.

[Tony]

Warriors fight through.

[Dan Le Batard]

But how do you like Rocky telling him how many fingers the doc was holding up? Oh, yeah. That's a good move.

[Tony]

That's a good corner man right there.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was a good move.

[Chris Cody]

It was a good movie, though. I thought, you know, kind of similar tropes to the Rocky of like, oh, the trainer gets sick as I found it a little unpredict, like, predictable, because it was kind of similar to what Rocky's done. But I thought it was Good. And I'm excited to see Creed 2.

[Dan Le Batard]

Creed 2's all. Creed 2 is just wire to wire. Nostalgia.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah. You're gonna love Drago's back.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

They get Brigitte Nielsen back as well.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yep. Oh, what?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And she's divorced from Drago.

[Dan Le Batard]

So nasty in that movie.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He's an awful.

[Dan Le Batard]

She makes you feel bad for Drago.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Drago.

[Dan Le Batard]

Drago. He's a sympathetic figure.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's a good movie.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a very good movie.

[Chris Cody]

Creed 2 better than 1? Is that what I'm hearing here?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, Creed 1 is.

[Tony]

Creed is better.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Creed's the best one because that's one that Ryan Coogler was, like, very hands on. And then Creed 2 was kind of like, all. I've done what I can. You guys can take it from here.

[Tony]

But when Jonathan Majors comes out in Creed 3.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

3. Yeah.

[Tony]

Comes out of prison, you're like, who is that guy? He is unstoppable.

[Dan Le Batard]

I will.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But.

[Dan Le Batard]

But Rocky's not in Creed 3, right?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, he's not.

[Dave Damshek]

No.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I will tell you, though, my biggest beef about the Creed movies, and maybe I'm wrong here. You can correct me. I have a hard time buying into. What's his name? Adonis. I have a hard time buying into him being a heavyweight. He's fighting. He's fighting the heavyweight division.

[Dave Damshek]

He's tiny.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He put on the pounds, but.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, but you can't sell that still. He's tiny.

[Tony]

Well, Mike Tyson is not exactly tall.

[Chris Cody]

In the first one, he's fighting right. At 175. He's fighting in the first one because,

[Dan Le Batard]

like, he's fighting Drago's kid in the second movie, it towers over Dragon's because,

[Tony]

like, 6, 5, 2 40s.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Guess what? Drago towered over Rocky.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, but I guess. But I guess I was able to buy Rocky being a heavyweight. Well, I don't know.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Because he's white.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know.

[Dave Damshek]

I'm still not over. I couldn't. The Creed movies are good and. And all of that, but I just can't get over it. When I first heard, oh, they're making a movie called Creed about the Count of Monte Fisto, I assumed it was going to be the prequel we were gonna see.

[Chris Cody]

Wow.

[Dave Damshek]

His heyday. And I think we've talked about that before. I mean, but that. That would have been.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Hold on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now they do that?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Hold on. Dave Damshek. Me. You, typewriter.

[Dave Damshek]

Oh, you're.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You're already in Hollywood. Let's go, man. Let's get the pigeon.

[Dan Le Batard]

Creed prequel by the time we meet

[Dave Damshek]

him, he's way past his prime, you understand? Yeah. You know, they, they. They position him as the villain in that picture for obvious reasons, but, you know, he's, you know, the master of disaster. I mean, he. He would win against any of those other Balboa bouts. He would beat Balboa in his prime, Drago in his.

[Dan Le Batard]

He wouldn't have beaten Balboa from. He wouldn't have beaten Rocky 4. Balboa.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That was a Rocky's prime. No, no, Rocky 4. He'd retired. He'd already quit. He had to get back into shape.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, but he went out the top of his game.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, no, Prime Rocky is Rocky 2. Rocky 2 is Prime. Rocky.

[Dave Damshek]

That's right.

[Chris Cody]

My favorite trope, My favorite trope in fighting boxing movies is when during one of the. In between rounds, when you're talking to the trainer, the trainer's like, all right, this is the exact move we're going to do.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're going to do this.

[Chris Cody]

You're going to go with the left uppercut. It happens to. Happens in the first fight in Creed. And then when the next round comes, there's a point when the fight's breaking down and you hear the trainer go now. And then he does it right, what he said, and he knocks him out. I love that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Because it's always. Because the opponent is like. He drops his left shoulder. You got to look when he drops his left shoulder. Next time, go with the upper hook.

[Chris Cody]

Do it now as if in real fight.

[Dave Damshek]

You understand that. That Drago, what he did that night in Vegas, after James Brown sang his song about living in America, he murdered somebody.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What was the name of that song?

[Dave Damshek]

Creed showed up for an exhibition, you know.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Dave Damshek]

That's all he. That's all he thought this was about. Drago went in there with Mal intent.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yep.

[Dave Damshek]

He killed a man. He murdered him.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's not going to heaven.

[Dave Damshek]

That's exactly what I'm telling you.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Wait, but what about. What about his performance in Creed, too? It's like. Oh, I think he's kind of atoned for it.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, no, nothing's being spoiled for you. I will tell you this, though, Chris in Creed 2 scene man, where. Where Rocky and Drago meet again. Drago's waiting for him in the restaurant. Goosey's. It's good shit. It's good.

[Tony]

Good part of the movie.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's really good. You know, a movie that Drago.

[Dave Damshek]

Now, that's the fight. I'd like to see both of them in their primes.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, it is A good fight, but, you know, Clubber. Clubber was not a technical guy. He was just brute force. Yeah. Drago. Drago has a power and the technique, and that's what made him especially dangerous.

[Dan Le Batard]

And the steroids.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'll tell you what. Drago versus Apollo in his prime. That's a fight I want to watch.

[Dave Damshek]

Drago was emotionally weak when the. When his home fans in Moscow turned against him. He didn't know what to do with himself. He crumbled emotionally before he physically fell apart.

[Dan Le Batard]

Who would have won? Drago in his prime or Drago's son?

[Tony]

Ooh, Drago's son. Stacked.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, Drago would have.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think Drago wiped the floor with him.

[Tony]

I think so.

[Dave Damshek]

Not bigger.

[Chris Cody]

Faster, Bigger, faster. Strong situation.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, no, I think Ivan would have won.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He was on the juice, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, he was awesome.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Like Messi.

[Dave Damshek]

Imagine being Ivan Drago and you think you're the hero of the Soviet Union, and then this American guy hit you one or two times, and all of a sudden the crowd turns against you and they start cheering for the American. That must have. That must have made it must have been sick in his balls.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You're looking in the wrong place, Dave Danishek. You're thinking about, how does Drago feel? I'm like, look at this crowd. The balls on these people. To root for Rocky when Mikhail Gorbachev is right there watching in the Communist Party, everyone. No one's going home. Nobody's going home.

[Dave Damshek]

That's like in victory. When Pele scores in the bicycle kick and Max von Sydow playing the Nazi scourge officer, stands to his feet.

[Dan Le Batard]

He loves.

[Dave Damshek]

Yeah, he loves the Nazis, but he also. But.

[Dan Le Batard]

But.

[Dave Damshek]

But he loves the beautiful game even more. And when Pele scores on that bicycle kick, he can't help himself. He rises to his feet to applaud. With all the Allied fans gathered that day, the Nazis around him give him the stink eye, but good. In fact, when that game ends in a tie and all the. The players run off the field and escape into the streets of Paris, you know what? Max von Sydow is getting two in

[Dan Le Batard]

the back of the head. I mean, you know about that Nazi scourge.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I know all about the Nazi scourge.

[Dan Le Batard]

It is time for a brand new segment on Fridays here, and it is called AI or not AI. Yes, yes. AI is very controversial these days because sometimes you'll see something on Twitter, you'll see it on the Internet. You're like, man, I don't know if that's AI or if that's not AI. So we're going to be able to tell you now. First up here, AI or not AI. Here is a picture. New team photos this year for the Atlanta Falcons star running back Bajan Robinson. The left is last year. I say it the right way. The right is this year. That is Bijan Robinson's new team photo. Chris. AI or not AI?

[Chris Cody]

I'm going to.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think that's AI Amin.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He looks like Zangief. I'm gonna go with AI.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tony.

[Tony]

He looks like Genie from Aladdin. I think I'm gonna go real.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow, Dave.

[Dave Damshek]

Real.

[Dan Le Batard]

The answer is AI. That's AI.

[Chris Cody]

The Falcons put out this photo, but he had normal hair.

[Dan Le Batard]

Next up here, AI or not AI. So you may have seen this. Tony Romo. Tony Romo was arrested, all right. And he had to do. Because he had to do a sobriety test. He got dwi. Well, you may not have seen this additional video that has been released where he's doing the. The Dak Prescott warm ups before the game. But hip movement. Romo's doing it in the garage. Shoeless, mind you. He's doing it in the garage to show everybody. I'm not drunk. Look at me. I'm doing this test right here. I don't know what you want to call it, but it's not sobriety test, Tony. AI or not AI.

[Tony]

You know, the cops, they sometimes like to hide evidence. And that's what happened in this one. That is 100% real.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I mean, you mean to tell me we went from him doing the stretches to then all of a sudden he's just arrested and then it just cuts. That's not a continuous video. That is not AI. That is real.

[Chris Cody]

Never wanted something to be real more in my life. But I believe this is AI.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dave. AI or not AI.

[Dave Damshek]

I gotta go that this is AI. Because it feels to me like Tony Romo did the thing. He duped a lot of people who have seen the video. They're like, he wasn't really that drunk. No, I think it's the opposite. I think he was loaded. But he is a master. He is an expert drinker and knows how to kind of put on a face there. That does not seem like somebody who is trying to be comported. I don't think you break out into the Dak Prescott hit flip.

[Dan Le Batard]

The answer is a he did not break out into the Dak Prescott warm up routine.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Dave, is. Is Tony Robo going to heaven?

[Dan Le Batard]

Got one more for you here. One more here.

[Dave Damshek]

Maybe can hang with me and Zaz as we haunt people.

[Dan Le Batard]

Actually, sorry, we got two more here. Two more here. Next up here on today's debut edition of AI or Not AI. Here is video footage taken by Max Crosby in the Vegas Raiders locker room where Kirk Cousins is, is showing Fernando Mendoza his place. You like that? You like that? You thought it was your time, you nerd. Big Kirko still ain't done, dumbass. You better be to ride the bench for another two years. We go seven and ten and I

[Chris Cody]

make 50 million a year.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mother Roy, is that AI or not AI?

[Tony]

I'm going to assume that that's. That's AI. Full pads in the normal uniforms.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm thinking that's AI, Dave. That was the dead giveaway, Dave. AI or not AI.

[Dave Damshek]

Well, Kirk is definitely bound for heaven. Ergo, he would never drop an F bomb.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean,

[Tony]

it's hard.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a tough one.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's hard.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Based on. Look, this is the only reason I'm going to say this answer. Based on the videos we saw earlier of Kirk trying to run, I'm going to say that's AI Because I don't think he's got that much motion going.

[Chris Cody]

I'm going to go based off the top left corner of the video that says AI.

[Dan Le Batard]

That it's a giveaway. That is AI. Everybody that is doing one, got one more for you. Here to close out today's debut edition of AI or not AI. This picture here of Allen Iverson. Tony AI or not AI.

[Tony]

He's got the finger thing. That's always a good tell. He's got the triple color.

[Chris Cody]

Wait, is he missing a finger?

[Tony]

No, no. He.

[Dan Le Batard]

He. Good question, though.

[Tony]

The elbow, I think that's AI.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I mean, can we throw it back up? Yeah, I gotta look at it again.

[Mike Ryan]

See here.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

The jersey, the finger is a little bit of a throw off because it's got tape on it. Because it looks a little bit like.

[Tony]

But no, real Hoopers always knew that AI would. Would have the finger. It wasn't even taped. It was actually like a little finger.

[Chris Cody]

Like the detail and sweatband tattoos. I'm gonna say this is AI for me, it's AI.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I want to say not AI.

[Dan Le Batard]

What?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

The answer is that is AI. Oh, wow.

[Tony]

It's AI.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The answer is. The answer was right there.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is a I. And that is the debut edition of AI or Not AI.

[Chris Cody]

Good segment.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a good segment.

[Dave Damshek]

That was good, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

There you go, guys. You know how we do to wrap up a Friday show. All right, everybody out there, be like Zaslo, come on. I gotta know. Is it a big game? Was it not a big game? That's right. Howdy, folks. Welcome to Big Game. Or Not Not a Big Game with Jonathan Zaslow. All right, Chris, what do you got for me today?

[Chris Cody]

I found out last night from my wife that this Sunday, her, myself, my daughter, we are going back to school shopping.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, wow, that's brutal. That's brutal. I mean, you're just. You're following them around with the shopping cart. You're just prank. And this.

[Chris Cody]

How much is that whipping out the credit card?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, my God. It's time to go.

[Chris Cody]

Makes you emotional. I know.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

How do they need jeans every year?

[Dan Le Batard]

Getting choked up? That's not a big game. Nobody's looking at it. It's not a big game. I mean,

[Jonathan Zaslow]

as I mentioned earlier, taking the kids to see Spider man tomorrow. Gonna have to fight to stay awake. Not because I don't think the movie's good, but because I'm in a movie theater. Zaz is me staying awake throughout the entirety of Spider man with my kids. Big game or not big game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Seeing Spider man opening weekend with the kids, trying not to fall asleep. That's big game. Tony. Big game and not big game.

[Tony]

Zaz, today is the first day that I'm gonna go home, and my daughter is gonna be walking because she started walking yesterday. So today's the first day that I'm gonna go home, and she's gonna be walking.

[Dan Le Batard]

Zach's big game, not a big game. Tops that the daughter's walking. Make sure you put the bumpers on the edges of the corners of the tables. You don't want to have any accident, especially on the coffee table. That's a big game.

[Chris Cody]

This is when it starts for you, Tony. Like right now. This is when you need to bring your egg in.