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Mike Ryan
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Billy Corbin
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Mike Ryan
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Dan Levitard
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John Ruiz
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Mike Ryan
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Billy Corbin
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Mike Ryan
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John Ruiz
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Dan Levitard
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Mike Ryan
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Dan Levitard
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John Ruiz
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Dan Levitard
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Billy Corbin
Nobody has made more waves in the name, image, likeness waters than Miami businessman John Ruiz.
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Dan Levitard
He can spend his money wherever and however he wants to. He's not going to bulldoze a heist, a public high school. He's not going to build a stadium anywhere in the city of Coral Gables. Miami is a sunny place for shady people. And I, and I resent when some of that shade overshadows the good that people are doing. A positive moment in the history of this community and this and this program.
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Billy Corbin
A billionaire whose money may or may not be real, who is very interested in you knowing he has money and is looking to, you know, buy the Marlins, buy the Dolphins, change, put stadiums on top of stadiums. None of this conquer all of south Florida.
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Dan Levitard
But he's saying it's certainly you've heard of Nevin Shapiro. This is Nevin Payaso.
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Billy Corbin
The Ruiz thing smells like Miami. And when something smells like Miami, I am left to distrust anything that smells a little too much like Miami. And we drape in some of that good Cuban cologne, big booster man on money that may or may not be real is real kind of real.
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Mike Ryan
It's definitely real.
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Billy Corbin
Okay. Real money, that's considered.
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Mike Ryan
It was subject to all sorts of scrutiny and it went public.
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Billy Corbin
Guys, I don't know when, at a time when things being real in currency seems less real than it's ever been.
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Dan Levitard
Obviously the concern always has been for what, like the last two years that shady man with shady money pouring it into the Miami University of Miami again was going to end the same way that always ends. And it looks by all indications like that's exactly what's going to happen. I was labeled a hater for just sort of saying, hey look, the sky's blue. For stating what I thought was the obvious or abundantly clear what is now proven to be a fact. That last headline reads that, um, booster, the former, I should say University of Miami hurricane sugar daddy. John Rees's company once called MSP Recovery, then called Life Wallet, now called MSP Recovery again because, you know, a going concern keeps changing its name and rebranding. Roy? Well, the company has notified the SEC through public filings that it may only have six months left to live.
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Ari Cohn
How about another rebranding?
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Dan Levitard
I don't know where they could. They should start a defibrillator company maybe, Roy, to buy this dead brand. But what you just heard was a series of clips from this program dating back the first one was from December of 2021.
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Ari Cohn
Hell, Dan was on the show back.
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Dan Levitard
When I was 14 years old. Right, okay. And so like we were the first people to put up the red flags when John Ruiz came out of nowhere, became a, at the time a self proclaimed billionaire and started writing checks upwards of $10 million for name, image and likeness contracts with prominent University of Miami athletes. We're talking about contracts worth like $800,000 plus a car. We're talking about contracts some of which kind of eventually got the school in some trouble with the ncaa, of course, because if any school was going to be the first to get in trouble over nil deals with the ncaa, it was going to be the University of Miami. And this guy was a classic Miami character. His company went public through what they call a SPAC or special purpose acquisition company, which is.
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Ari Cohn
That sounds offensive.
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Dan Levitard
Well, but it's also, it is offensive, not for the reason you're suggesting, but it's a shell company formed solely for the purpose of raising capital through an ipo, a public offering for the purpose of acquiring or me merging with a previously existing company. If it sounds like some sort of a fast one, that's because it is. These were highly suspect vehicles. The SEC was already kind of like not looking kindly on them. But he managed to slip it in and it became one of the biggest SPACs of all time. The company valuation was like $32 billion. So on paper this guy was worth 20 billion because he owned 65% of the company. Which basically resulted in a day one collapse by the way, of the stock. Day one collapse and this year alone.
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Ari Cohn
Terrorists were involved, by the way.
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Dan Levitard
Over the past year alone, the stock is down, I think 90 to 93%. Okay, so I don't know how long this guy was a billionaire on paper for. I'm not sure what, how many minutes or how many hours he was a billionaire on paper for. I do know that he made a lot of money from this scheme. And I was concerned and expressed my concern in real time, as did young Dan.
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Ari Cohn
Okay, no gray in his beard.
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Dan Levitard
Dan and I looked like. Dan looked like he was fresh from his keen seniora and I look fresh from it from my bar mitzvah in those early porque Miami clips. But the bottom line is we were flagging this because we were concerned about this character, the health of and legitimacy of his company and where this money was coming from. And that University of Miami athletes were going to get in trouble as they are want to do not through their own wrongdoing, but through the wrongdoing of predatory boosters, donors to the school. And this nil thing has been a wild wild west situation thanks to the failures of the NCAA to come up with any sort of global rules for them and just let every individual state just kind of make shit up as they went along. And it's a disaster because of that and it's entirely the NCAA's fault. But u athletes are always going to be the first guys to get in trouble. So we were concerned about that. We expressed that concern and it turns out we were right to do it. This guy who claimed to have we have biometric technology, this guy might very well be the wizard of Oz. Ari Cohn. Was that defamatory what I just said?
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Ari Cohn
He's a man beyond the curve.
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Dan Levitard
Cohn is a first amendment lawyer. He's the lead counsel for tech policy at the the fire.org which is the foundation for individual rights and expression. He had some Twitter beef, some tweef with John Ruiz last we had him on the show with some of his mean tweets that resulted in a 100 plus page bar complaint against him in Illinois that was dismissed so quickly I don't even know that they could have read it because it was so ludicrous, this document. But speaking of ludicrous, John Ruiz has just put out a press release that he has filed a lawsuit for defamation against the Miami Herald for pulling a journalism on him. This is, this is in John Ruiz his own words. He has filed a defamation lawsuit on behalf of MSP Recovery founder and CEO John H. Ruiz against Miami Herald McClatchy Co. The company that owns Herald and reporters Jay Weaver and Ben Wider for false, misleading and defamatory reporting that resulted in more than $5 billion in losses. I should have said $5 billion in the Dr. Evil voice because that's as preposterous as that issue. $5 billion. So, Ari, let's start with what I said. He might be the wizard of Oz. Is that defamatory?
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Billy Corbin
I mean, that's rhetorical hyperbole and opinion.
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Dan Levitard
So, no, I don't even know that it's hyperbolic. But okay, let's. Let's overrule. Let's say here, Roy, that would be.
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Ari Cohn
In the sustained for you, Overruled for John Ruby.
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Dan Levitard
So where do we begin? Because you wrote a sensational blog post about this lawsuit last week where you read the whole damn thing, which was hard to read because it was written in crayon. It is one of the whiniest, bitchiest, most butt hurt complaints I've ever read. Light on facts, full of feeling though and emotion and irrelevant biographical details. I'm not entirely sure the lawyers who signed it wrote it because it reads like an autobiography. It reads like a John Ruiz like self flagellating special. Like, where do we begin with this, what I presume is a $5 billion laws against the Miami Herald for defaming John H. Ruiz.
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Billy Corbin
I mean, it's not just that it reads like an autobiography, it's that on the docket, at least as of, I think, like last weekend. I don't know if this has changed, but there was no lawyer for John Ruiz listed on the docket other than John Ruiz. So he would have. He would have filed it by himself, it looks like.
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Dan Levitard
But it also said that he filed it on behalf of MSP Recovery, or.
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Billy Corbin
I'm very concerned it says MSP Recovery filed on behalf of him. Which could make sense if they were maybe like, listed as his attorney. But that would still be a weird way of saying it. But also, let's kind of just get to one of the big picture issues of why this. None of this makes any sense. Is that one of the primary claims here? And we'll get to why it's bullshit in a second. But one of the claims is that the Miami Herald defamed MSP Recovery by saying it was the target of federal investigations. Now, if MSP Recovery is the party that was defamed, MSP Recovery has to be the party that sued. But the only named plaintiff is John Ruiz. So who is suing what attorneys representing who for what and who are the part like it. None of it makes any sense at all. MSP Recovery is listed as a party. So I don't know how Ms. MSP being defamed has anything to do with the price of tea in China.
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Dan Levitard
So we're saying is even before you get into the claims in the complaint and the facts, this is. Yeah, it's like pre.
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Billy Corbin
Yeah, this is. These are mistakes that like somebody straight out of law school wouldn't have made. Like, you have to have the proper parties. Like, it's just, it's beyond rookie mistake. It's just incomprehensible how somebody could make these mistakes.
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Dan Levitard
So here's the other thing, though. Let's talk about before we get into the target thing. I started to wade through some of the 99 pages of exhibits which are filled with emails, but from their lawyers with the Miami Herald and their attorneys with the New York Post and their attorneys, all of whom, for the most part, stand by the journalism of the reporters. And one of the things I've noticed is that more often than not in all of these stories, they are relying upon the company's own public filings, at least in advance of the article or later. Those filings with the SEC corroborate the reporting done by these reporters. That there is a grand jury or multiple grand juries convened investigating the company and the company is quote unquote, cooperating with them. That there are questions about the legitimacy of some of the claims of the company. The fact that the company, in addition to projecting nearly 1 billion, $1 billion in revenue on year one, about 993 million, they projected they generated about 23 million and change. And that was against an over $100 million operating loss at the time that they had a $33 billion or $32 billion evaluation on the launch of their IPO. There also wasn't any revenue. There was almost zero revenue. And yet they were claiming the company was worth $32 billion. So there's a lot of questions here that their own filings, the company's own public filings raised. Not to mention that after their first year of filings, most of which were late, filed late, they filed this wild document with the SEC saying all of our previous filings or most of our previous filings were unreliable. You cannot trust any of the, of the financial information that we ourselves have self reported like. So what I'm saying is like, how can you even defame this company when all you have to do is copy and paste their own reports? Which it appears to me that's all the Herald did.
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Billy Corbin
Yeah, well, you know, there is such a thing as the, the defamation proof plaintiff where, you know, their reputation is so shot Already that not you say, could possibly lower their esteem in the eyes of the community anymore. It takes a lot to get there. I don't know necessarily if they're there yet, but yikes.
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Dan Levitard
But I'm just saying, like, did it read to you because they, in this complaint, John Ruiz and his attorneys, whoever wrote this, this ridiculous, ridiculous amateur hour document that they, that I should have printed out on toilet paper so at least it would have some use to somebody for something.
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Ari Cohn
But now it will clog your pipes.
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Dan Levitard
Probably would. Reading this though. They take a lot of, or several, more than several of the Herald articles out of context. They don't include full quotes from some of their, their expert, you know, sources that they, that they quote. They don't even really seem to understand what defamation means. And again, there are, they seem more often than not to rely on the company's own statements. So what is going on here?
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Billy Corbin
I mean, what's going on is obviously that John Ruiz doesn't like when people criticize his company and he seems to think that his word should be taken as gospel and anyone who doesn't credit his word should, I guess, have to pay him $5 billion. I don't know. Even when his word appears to be worth very little, all things considered over the course of his history, you know, it's, it's quite bizarre. It's really, it's a strange lawsuit. It doesn't really make any sense.
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Dan Levitard
Is any of the defamation.
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Billy Corbin
It reads to me as desperate, honestly.
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Dan Levitard
And does any of it rise to, well, not just simply rise to defamation, but like, is their understanding of the law even consistent with what defamation could be under these circumstances?
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Billy Corbin
I mean, well, he gives the wrong definition for defamation at one point in the claim, so that's not really promising. I assume that maybe he has a vague general idea of what defamation is. I have zero, zero belief, however, that he actually knows the ins and outs of defamation law and how one pleads it and proves it. I had my suspicions of that a year or whatever ago where he started threatening to sue people for defamation on Twitter and then got mad at me for telling him that he couldn't do that because it wasn't going to stick. And now that this has been filed, I am just absolutely certain that he has no idea what he's talking about.
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Ari Cohn
Shouldn't he have like, you know, legal counsel to advise him not to do something stupid like this?
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Billy Corbin
You think John Ruiz needs anyone telling him what he does and doesn't know? John, John Ruiz Discount Dan Donald Trump, you know, he's the greatest you've ever seen. Everything.
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Ari Cohn
Yeah, he's Dan Trump. Yeah.
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Billy Corbin
Yeah.
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Dan Levitard
You have to remember this is a guy who self produced and posted to his own YouTube account a documentary short called John Ruiz, Living Legend.
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Billy Corbin
I'm so glad I wasn't aware of that until right now.
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Dan Levitard
Well, I'm going to send you the link so you could watch it. And this is a man who told you right to your Twitter face, Ari, that he is a litigator of national magnitude, did he not?
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Billy Corbin
He did indeed. A litigator of national magnitude who can't figure out who the proper plaintiff is in a case. I suppose it's not really. Again, not really promising.
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Dan Levitard
Okay, let's talk about this word mincing here on target. The Miami Herald made the outrageous and seemingly accurate observation that MSP Recovery, Life, Wallet, whatever it's called this week was the target of multiple federal investigations. Again, as I've already said, they seem to have disclosed that in their own public documents, the company itself. But is that they seem to spend a lot of time saying that they are not in fact the target of anything and it's defamatory to state or suggest that they are.
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Billy Corbin
Yeah, it's really strange because they acknowledge that there is there are investigations and that they are the ones being investigated. They do not take any issue with that contention. What they seem to be claiming is that because the Department of Justice's justice manual, in the context of talking about the rights and policies and procedures, when someone is called to testify in front of a grand jury, calls someone a target, if they are, if there is substantial evidence linking them to the commission of a crime, that because the word target has this specialized use in this one particular case, that it's defamatory to say they are the target of an investigation. That's nonsense for a few reasons, not least of which is because nobody reading the Miami Herald reads the word target and thinks, oh yeah, you mean the definition in the Justice Manual, which most people don't even know exists.
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Ari Cohn
They have a manual.
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Dan Levitard
There's a manual for justice.
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Ari Cohn
They didn't get rid of it because.
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Dan Levitard
Of DEI Emmanuel justice sounds like a NBA player.
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Ari Cohn
Yeah, it does.
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Dan Levitard
There is Emanuel of Justice. Yes.
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Billy Corbin
Anyone reading this statement in the Miami Herald would know immediately that the meaning is that MSP Recovery is the one being investigated. Like that is very clear. It is unreasonable to claim that anyone would think otherwise. Like it is just the worst kinds of like trying to nitpick on formalistic legal technology. And for what it's worth, the courts don't hold journalists to the proper use of formal legal terminology specifically because this could happen because it would become very dangerous to report on legal proceedings because you say one thing and you take the normal meaning of it rather than the formal legal meaning of it and somebody sues you for defamation. Like, it's literally. I mean, like you said, it's the whiniest thing I've ever seen.
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Dan Levitard
So if they're not going to stick, would they just said like, oh, they are the subject of the investigation or they.
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Billy Corbin
Subject. Subject has a meaning in the, in the Justice Manual too. But if, if the Miami Herald had said MSP recovery is being investigated, like there wouldn't. They wouldn't have even had this whiny hook like, and that's clearly what target of the investigation means in the common parlance. So like, it's just, I don't know why they think that a judge is going to look at this and do anything but say, why are you wasting my time?
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Dan Levitard
Speaking of which, there's also a claim here. I believe I'm reading this correctly and I don't know how to read this because I've read, you know, quite a few defamation claims and this is one of the, one of the worst I've ever seen as far as sheer incompetence, legal incompetence is concerned. But the first two pages, I'm sorry, almost three pages, Roy, is just every number. Like one, John Ruiz is a great man. Two, John Ruiz is a Cuban American man. Three, John Ruiz is a litigator of national magnitude. Like I've never seen anything. Have you ever seen it? Like you can. One paragraph, Ari. You could establish someone's bona fides and say this guy is a guy with a reputation and go on to explain how you've defamed. Right. Is there like three pages of this shit?
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Billy Corbin
It's just like two and a half pages of bullet points about the various people who have vetted MSP recoveries like procedures and like algorithms, which has nothing to do with anything. It's very bizarre. It is exactly the kind of like self aggrandizing nonsense that you would expect if John Ruiz had written the complaint, which he may well.
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Dan Levitard
And also they claim that, that because the Herald has had described another civil lawsuit against them, the KANO health lawsuit, they're being sued for like 67 million. There was a claim that John Ruiz's company was, quote unquote, a Ponzi scheme. In that complaint, they simply quoted this legal complaint, this civil case. And I think he's, he says that's defamatory for publishing.
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Billy Corbin
He implies it, but he doesn't make it into any of the counts for some reason. So I don't really know whether they forgot about it or I don't know, who knows? But yeah, in any event, you are allowed to report on what a legal document or what what is said during a legal proceeding as long as you do it fairly and accurately. And if you're describing what KANO Health is claiming about MSP Recovery, like, yeah, you're going to repeat some of the things that John Ruiz thinks is false, but like, you're allowed to report accurately on what the legal document contains. So he's shit out of luck there. It just seems like he thinks that nobody should be allowed to criticize John Ruiz. And if you do, then you have to print John Ruiz's side of things too. Otherwise you've been. By the way, in the article about the KANO Health lawsuit, the Miami actually does tell MSP Recovery side of things and talks about the lawsuit that MSP Recovery filed against Kano. So it's like really, really whiny.
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Dan Levitard
Last question. $5 billion. It doesn't appear he's suing for $5 billion. The press release headline says that. But what is he suing for? What remedy or punishment against the hell he does. He wants.
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Billy Corbin
He. He definitely does want money. And I wouldn't be surprised to hear him say the $5 billion in the litigation, which like, strikes to me as like, like source crack pipe meme territory. He also wants an injunction against the Miami Herald publishing anything about John Ruiz ever again.
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Dan Levitard
What?
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Billy Corbin
He wants them? Yes. He wants a, an injunction. He wants a prior restraint for the. So the Miami Herald can never say anything about John Ruiz ever again. Which is not only just deeply stupid, it is also flagrantly, obviously unconstitutional. And I just, it's absurd that the thought to actually ask for that would even cross his mind. It just, it goes to show how deep up his own.
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Dan Levitard
Whatever his head is, Kulo, we call it a Kulo.
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Ari Cohn
Kind of sounds like what the current President of the United States is doing.
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Billy Corbin
Well, there are some similarities between their personality. And when I say that, I mean, John Ruiz just really wishes he was Donald Trump and like, tries to emulate him in every way. And like, say what you will about whether, whether or not Donald Trump pulls it off, there's one thing that is certain is John Ruiz does not pull it off.
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Dan Levitard
Well, there's one reason why you don't. With John Ruiz, we have biometric technology Icon. Thanks so much for being here the fire.org and we had to revive this streeter classic for this very occasion.
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John Ruiz
Anybody can read a lot into whatever.
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Dan Levitard
You do as long as you do.
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Unknown
It the right way there's nothing wrong with it. I'm super rich so you can't be mean to me in public or in private but especially where people can see you're being mean to me cause that hurts my feelings Cease and assist or something as this amounts to nothing eventually I'll still count it as a win for sure cause I don't really no love to John A Drew being mean to man some legal recourse or a formal complaint I paid people to like me so they let me play ball My loyal army of gurners avenged me Whenever some fool tries to say something true about me on the Internet.
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John Ruiz
That.
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Unknown
I didn't like she emphasis towards something how her VO fan be threatening as this amounts to nothing eventually I'll still count it as a win for sure.
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Dan Levitard
From a lawyer's perspective cause I don't.
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Unknown
Really know Love to Johnny Truiz a retweet demand some legal action.
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Ari Cohn
Or a.
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Unknown
Formal complaint make it rain on the cans the stadium is a pipe king dream I'll never build it at all John Ruiz is a slee who's never.
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John Ruiz
The constitution we have biometric technology.
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Unknown
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Unknown
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- [31:56]
Dan Levitard
Foreign at the risk of circling back to the first segment, Roy, we were talking about John Ruiz and we were talking about how we were right about everything. All the red flags we had attempted to. To fly.
- [32:17]
Ari Cohn
I mean, don't pat yourself on the back too hard.
- [32:19]
Dan Levitard
All the concerns. We. But this is a collective we.
- [32:21]
Ari Cohn
I'm patting myself on the back here.
- [32:22]
Dan Levitard
Me and Dan and really everybody, except for John Ruiz's nephew, Michael Ryan Ruiz. And we were. We were correct to be skeptical. We were. But that did not stop the sport holes on Twitter from going after me. And now we're going to look back in a top five, Roy.
- [32:45]
Ari Cohn
Oh, okay, hold on.
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Dan Levitard
It's a top five. What do we call this top five, though? So these are shit tweets at me. But they were wrong, dude.
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Ari Cohn
Right? Yeah.
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Dan Levitard
Okay. They were wrong. And this was all in the interest of protecting student athletes at the University of Miami, the reputation of the Miami Hurricanes athletic department, and for all the reasons that I think have become abundantly clear through the years. But let's start with our Oli from at Daniel Kane 1970, with the Avatar of. It's all about the. You just, like, steer right into the sports hole thing. I appreciate this one. This. This is very nice. I respect both Izzy Havanek and Billy Corbin, and I like them both. But on this one, they have no idea what they're talking about. And it's not wise to challenge John Ruiz because he's one and he's an attorney by trade. I appreciate that, Danny boy. I know. I know Izzy does, too. Izzy Havanek is a. He's not just a golden cane, Roy. He is not just a golden cane. His family is on the board of trustees at the University of Miami. Their family name is on the at apartment and on a residential hall there, and he was our guest on the show some time ago to talk about how dubious this situation was.
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Ari Cohn
So he's a platinum Kane.
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Dan Levitard
He is a platinum. Absolutely. And I appreciate Danny boy Kane chiming in, and I respect him. I think the problem here is, is that the idea that John Ruiz is an attorney and he should be deferred to because of his legal expertise did not age well.
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Ari Cohn
Well, he doesn't know the Constitution, so just like in the song, demands a legal recourse.
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Dan Levitard
Number five from at Go Canes Garrigo AD Billy Corbin and Izzy Havenick need to shut their mouths. Why are you fighting against progress? Cocaine's.
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Ari Cohn
There are hashtags there. You got to read the hashtag.
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Dan Levitard
Hashtag. The time is now. Hashtag. Don't be a fan. Later. @ Alex7ruiz. John Ruiz the son. @ John H. Ruiz. @ Johnny Ruiz for also John. I have to Read. I have to read all of it?
- [34:51]
Ari Cohn
Yes.
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Dan Levitard
Oh, Jesus.
- [34:52]
Ari Cohn
You can't leave anything out, man. Audio.
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Dan Levitard
Obviously telling us to shut our mouths when we were telling the truth is pretty funny. And the idea that we were fighting against progress, that was the opposite, of course, of what we were fighting against. But we can't agree on that last bit. Go Canes.
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Ari Cohn
Yo. Go Canes. Don't be a fan.
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Dan Levitard
Later, Number. Don't be. Hashtag hashtag.
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Ari Cohn
Hashtag.
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Dan Levitard
Don't be hashtag. The time is now. Number four at sports BET expert at S BET team. Shut up, Billy.
- [35:21]
Ari Cohn
Oh, Jesus.
- [35:22]
Dan Levitard
Shut up, Billy. My Lord, Trying to get clicks from this and calling Ruiz a Miami hurricane sugar daddy. He loves the canes. Who cares? He's doing way more good than you are. All right, I. But set the grammar aside for a moment. He was the Miami hurricane sugar daddy. I don't think that's an insult. I think that was, in fact, a compliment. I don't know what kind of clicks I'm getting. I believe that John Ruiz loves the canes. I do. But I also believe that being involved with characters like him could be potentially harmful to the program. And as it turns out, I believe it was. When he says, who cares? I care. I care about the student athletes and I care about the health and safety of the program and its reputation and its ability to succeed. And he's doing way more good than you are. I mean.
- [36:13]
Ari Cohn
I mean, you're a cane baiter. Kinda like people are saying, oh, I'm a race baiter.
- [36:17]
Billy Corbin
Me.
- [36:18]
Ari Cohn
Me being a race baiter. You know, because I'm calling out racism on Twitter, currently known as X. You are a cane baiter.
- [36:24]
Dan Levitard
I am a baiter. And I'm the master at it. I would. Would be the masturbator. I think I was. Wait. I'm waiting for. I'm waiting for the sound. I'm waiting for the audio.
- [36:37]
Ari Cohn
It's on the page that I have to find right now. Hold on for a second. And I think. I think I got it. There you go.
- [36:45]
Dan Levitard
Number three at Kane. 305-786. I love that handle, by the way. I love that handle. Props to that handle. Should be number one. Just for that handle at 305-786-@ kane. 305786. Exactly. Ellipses. Comparing on H. Ruiz to Nevin Shapiro is not only insulting, but ignorant. I'm actually not going to defend that point because that was Dan who did that. I mean, yeah, Dan's the one that made that comparison. I think more so than I did, but it was neither insulting nor ignorant. If anything, it was insulting to Nevin Shapiro, number two at this name. I love it at turnover. Chain tune over with a turnover. With an a turnover. I love this town. He tweets at me. Please respond to at. John H. Ruiz. I know you are scared of him. Since you got yet another prediction wrong. This is your legacy.
- [37:50]
Ari Cohn
What was the original state statement that you had to respond to?
- [37:54]
Dan Levitard
It doesn't matter.
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Ari Cohn
It doesn't matter because you were right.
- [37:56]
Billy Corbin
We're always.
- [37:58]
Dan Levitard
We played a whole bunch of highlights at the top of the hour, dude. I mean, this was. We were right. What was I wrong about? Just tell me, what was I wrong? My leg. By the way, Miami, it's a town. I've said it once, I'll say it a thousand times. Miami is a place where lies are love and truth is hate, okay? People don't want to hear the truth. It's a pota lita kind of town, okay?
- [38:18]
Ari Cohn
There's a nationwide epidemic.
- [38:20]
Dan Levitard
Well, it's like, like Tinkerbell. If you don't believe in it, it doesn't exist. So you gotta just keep believing in it, okay? Number one at you. Step two. Step 21. I love this.
- [38:33]
Ari Cohn
You tap to step.
- [38:34]
Dan Levitard
You tap. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. University of Texas el Paso at UTEP to step 21. John, I'm looking forward to your boxing match against Billy when you open up that new Cane Stadium. Yeah, I'm waiting for that boxing match too. When he opens up the new Cane Stadium, which I told you from day one not only was never going to happen, but the Miami Hurricanes don't want it. The athletic department doesn't want it. The university doesn't want it. The school board where he said he was going to knock down a high school and build it. And Carl Gables doesn't want it. Miami Dade county, which controls Tropical park, where he claimed he was going to build his new location of the state, It's. It's not going to happen. And I know telling the truth makes me a hater, but it's still the truth. And speaking of truth, that hurts. This week, the city of Miami commission postponed a vote on whether or not to look. Deputize local cops with immigration enforcement powers. That's in the city of Miami where over half the population is foreign born and more than 70% are Latino or Hispanic. And they want to follow in the footsteps of at least half a dozen other Miami Dade cities. Sweetwater, Coral Gables, West Miami, Sunny Isles Beach, Miami Springs and Hialeah. Where 93% of residents speak a language other than English, to enter into this 287G agreement, which is a task force model which would allow the Miami Police Department officers to conduct immigration functions, federal immigration functions, during routine work like a traffic stop or whatever it may be. This is a big deal because Miami is the largest city in Miami, Dade county, the second most populous in Florida. And the Obama administration had eliminated these task forces back in 2012 after a department of justice investigation found it led to racial profiling and discrimination toward Latinos. President Donald Trump brought it back this year. So the Miami commission did delay that vote, but they are planning on doing it later this summer. So we'll keep you posted on that progress.
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Ari Cohn
You get what you vote for.
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Dan Levitard
But for I never thought the leopards would eat my face. Right. But we are going to do a from our Miami moment, a throwback to 25 years ago this week, after four months of protests that shut down the city, the Palmetto Expressway, our freeways, Biscayne Boulevard by the immigration building at 79th street, the Port of Miami, countless family and federal court hearings, extensive due process and meetings between Elian Gonzalez's Miami relatives and Attorney General Janet Reno, during which Elian's great uncle Lazaro told Janet Reno, the attorney general, that if she wants to comply with multiple judges that ordered Elian be returned to his closest living relative, his father, that she'd have to take him, quote, by force, end quote. And on April 22, 2000, 25 years ago this week, she did just that. And Little Havana erupted in violence.
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Ari Cohn
And it's also the reason why George W. Bush got elected, according to you in your movie.
- [42:00]
Dan Levitard
That is correct. It's a little bit of a spoiler. You're getting a little bit ahead. The punchline here. But yes, that is going to be our Miami.
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Ari Cohn
Well, I didn't know it was going to be the Punchline.
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Dan Levitard
Clip from 537 votes. But Little Havana on what is sometimes known as parental rights week here in Miami, Little Havana erupted in violence against federal agents. There were rioters setting fires on the streets of Miami, burning American flags. And then Miami Mayor Joe Carollo, he was the mayor 25 years ago. Unbelievable. It's like a cockroach. This guy, he's got more lives than Fidel Castro. Joe was right out there in front of the cameras and you're not going to want to miss him getting bitch slapped by fake Bill Clinton on Saturday Night Live. And I should say after the raid, Carollo fired the police chief and the city Manager. The last two gringos in city leadership at the time for not giving him advance notice of this INS enforcement effort. But it was later reported that the feds did not trust Carollo, so they demanded that he not be told. So here is a remixed clip from our HBO original documentary, 537 votes, executive produced by Adam McKay.
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John Ruiz
Cocaine's a defiant Lazaro Gonzalez made it clear he was not going to turn.
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Dan Levitard
Over Elliot to his father.
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Mike Ryan
His great uncle Lassero told Attorney General Janet Reno that the boy could can be removed only by force.
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Unknown
She told me that only in Miami.
- [43:48]
Dan Levitard
Is grew up so far away. Standing on the shoreline, waiting.
- [44:10]
Mike Ryan
No one was seriously hurt. But outside the house, for some of those who had been holding vigil day and night, the emotional wounds were deep.
- [44:19]
Dan Levitard
Is that democracy?
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Unknown
No, that's Castro tactics. You turn Miami into Havana.
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Ari Cohn
I would like to take a moment.
- [44:28]
Dan Levitard
To talk to the exiled Cuban community in Miami who are so upset over the recent government action there and extend this heartfelt message to them.
- [44:39]
Ari Cohn
Shut the hell up.
- [44:53]
John Ruiz
It's supposed to be non violent. I just called the police three times. I'm part of this play like Clinton did.
- [45:02]
Billy Corbin
It was a circus.
- [45:07]
Dan Levitard
I just saw you throw a rock. No, no, the Clinton is Reno is.
- [45:14]
John Ruiz
All right, Ms. Reno, are you ready?
- [45:16]
Dan Levitard
Ready.
- [45:16]
John Ruiz
Go.
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Unknown
Blue. That's it.
- [45:25]
Dan Levitard
Let's move.
- [45:25]
Unknown
Move, move, move, move. Give us the trip.
- [45:30]
Dan Levitard
Hand over the children. Happy Easter. Hand over the children. It was a very bad situation post.
- [45:44]
Unknown
Rape in the Cuban American community.
- [45:47]
Dan Levitard
Emotions were inflamed. Mayor helped to inflame those emotions. I cannot find sufficient vocabulary to express the shame that I felt this morning.
- [45:58]
Ari Cohn
Towards our federal government and to the mayor of Miami. What's his name?
- [46:03]
Dan Levitard
You say you're ashamed of your new home, United States.
- [46:07]
Ari Cohn
I'll tell you what, I'll buy the raft.
- [46:14]
Mike Ryan
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- [47:22]
Unknown
Folks, listen up.
- [47:23]
John Ruiz
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- [48:17]
Unknown
Today, the Dan Levitart show with Stu Gotz is sponsored by BetterHelp. Life gets busy. Boy do I know that. And your mind carries it all. But just like your body needs care, so does your mental health. Therapy is an investment in clarity and peace in you. Let's talk numbers really quick. Traditional in person therapy can cost anywhere from 100 to 250 bucks per session, which adds up fast. With BetterHelp online therapy, you can save an average of up to 50% per session. With BetterHelp, you pay a flat fee for weekly sessions, saving you big on cost and time. Therapy should feel accessible, not like a luxury luxury. With online therapy, you get quality care at a price that makes sense and can help you with anything from anxiety to everyday stress. Your mental health is worth it, and now it's within reach. With over 30,000 therapists, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform, having served over 5 million people globally. And it's super convenient. You can join a session with the click of a button, helping you fit therapy into your busy life, plus switch therapists at any time. Your well being is worth it. Visit betterhelp.com DLB today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp Help H E L P COM DLB.