Best of DLS: A Very Weird Hour

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Best of DLS: A Very Weird Hour
Date: December 26, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Episode Overview

This episode embraces its title, "A Very Weird Hour," by stringing together some of the most unusual, offbeat, and classic moments from the show’s archives and guests. In true Le Batard fashion, the episode is heavy on comedy, light-hearted banter, and South Florida flavor. Key elements include a retro motivational rant from Ray Lewis, an oddly captivating Al Roker interview, Roy’s infamously ridiculous Top Ten lists, a “Real Tough Guy or Fake Tough Guy” game with Antonio Davis, a nostalgic spot with Flo Rida, and a wild infomercial pitch-off with the late Billy Mays.

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Main Segments & Key Discussion Points

1. Setting the Tone: "We're Going Weirder Than 'Stranger Things'"

[03:19-04:00]

• Dan opens the show self-consciously:

  "What we did transparently after Stranger Things aired on Christmas night, we were like, how can we be stranger than Stranger Things? ... today's episode is a little bit weird. Today's like stranger episodes."
  (03:19)

• Explains the premise for the odd assortment to follow: classic show moments and out-of-the-box interviews.

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2. Ray Lewis's Motivational Rant from 2016

[05:05-06:06]

• Ray Lewis offers full-throttle New Year’s inspiration, laying it on thick:

  "The problem is, we create New Year’s resolutions instead of lifestyles, man. It’s about lifestyle."
  [05:41]

  "You want to do something, snap a picture of yourself and at the end of this day, ask yourself what you don’t like about you before you judge anybody else. Happy 2016. Do you?"
  [05:59]

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3. Al Roker: The Mount Rushmore and Life of a Weatherman

[06:06-12:34]

Mount Rushmore of Weathermen

• Al Roker rattles off his favorites:

  "Willard Scott. Dr. Frank Fields... Sonny Elliott from Detroit. Dr. George Fishbeck in Los Angeles... Dallas Rains.... Brian Norcross who was down there in Miami."
  [06:11-06:33]

• Jokes about not knowing/not liking Phil Farrow.

  Stugotz: "Not that gas bag Phil Farrow though."
  Al Roker: "I don’t know Phil."
  [06:33-06:39]

Fame and Impostor Syndrome

• Humble about his profile:

  "I don’t know that I am the most famous weatherman in America."
  [06:51]

  "It’s still like, wow, they haven’t found me out yet. This is amazing. I love this country."
  [07:28]

• Kids say: "Al Roker, you look so much better in person. And I think they believe that’s a compliment."
  [08:16]

Grueling Schedule and Work Ethic

• On waking up at 3:15am, never sleeping before his daughter:

  "I get up at 3:15 and I do not go to bed until my 13 year old daughter is in bed... So you’re not going to get me complaining."
  [08:30-09:10]

Thoughtful on Gastric Bypass and Food Addiction

• "No, I can be honest with you, not to get too serious. Losing both parents, you know, losing friends in 9/11... There are a lot of difficult things. [Surgery] was something, you know, that I just, I knew I needed to do something."
  [09:21]

• On why food is a unique addiction:

  "Unlike, say, drug abuse or alcohol abuse... you have to eat, so you deal with that."
  [10:02]

• Candid about his struggle:

  "I really like food."
  [10:38]

  "I still like a good... some good ribs, but I don’t need a rack and a half anymore. I have two or three."
  [11:33]

• On his old eating habits:

  "Stop by McDonald’s, get a couple quarter pounders and a couple fries and a thick shake... sit down in front of the TV and... pig out. Could be a pint of Häagen-Dazs at once..."
  [12:12]

• Stugotz, in classic form:

  "That interview did nothing but make me hungry."
  [12:58]

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4. Roy’s Ridiculously Themed Top Ten Lists

[15:39-22:16]

Top Ten Board Games

• Roy’s list blends puns, wordplay, and inside jokes:

  • "Back Gammon"
  • "Hungry Ass Hippos"
  • "Fats Dominoes"
  • "Connect Foe"
  • "Obama Napoli"
  • "Candyland"
  • "Life Sentence"
  • "Risk Ross"
  • "100 foot Yahtzee"
  • "Bill Pacheesi"

  (15:39-19:45)

Top Ten Baseball Players if They Were Rappers

• Hilarious hip-hop/baseball puns:

  • "Bone Thugs and Harmon Killaroo"
  • "Jay Zo"
  • "Notorious BI Jeter"
  • "LL Cool J Johnstone"
  • "Grandmaster Flash Gordon"
  • "Doug E. Glanville"
  • "Two Live Karoo" (Stugotz: “That’s the best one. On this list, no doubt.” [20:38])
  • "DJ Jazzy Jeff Konine"
  • "Run Diemcito Gaston"
  • "JT Snow Coasting"

  (19:45-22:16)

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5. “Real Tough Guy or Fake Tough Guy” Game ft. Antonio Davis

[25:26-29:48]

• A rapid-fire game rating NBA players’ reputations for toughness:

  • Kendrick Perkins: “Real tough guy...he would punch somebody for real.” (26:01)
  • Reggie Evans: “Fake tough guy...every time you look around, you’re floppy.” (26:07)
  • Tyler Hansbrough: “Real tough guy intentions...He’s not a real tough guy. No.” (26:36-27:01)
  • Udonis Haslem: “Real tough guy. I think that he would... he would actually do it.” (27:05)
  • Zach Randolph: “Oh, tough guy.” (27:20)
  • Rajon Rondo: “Fake tough guy. He...got some things going on he need to work out with himself.” (27:41)

• Antonio Davis on Charles Oakley and NBA fear:

  “When you’re being told you’re going to play the Knicks and they have a guy on their team that if you show any weakness...this guy is going to smash you every time he sees you...I’m not going to lie.”
  (28:19-29:07)

• Stugotz: “So you went into the fear. I mean, you were faking is what you’re saying.”

  Antonio Davis: “Fake it till you make it. But let me tell you, after that, I knew what tough was.”
  (29:22-29:48)

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6. The Art of the Pitchman: Billy Mays Drops In

[30:07-36:21]

• Billy Mays talks about the world of infomercials, the ‘American dream’ of pitching inventions:

  “Go for it. Because everybody has an idea. It’s these people that put these ideas down on paper, make a prototype...that’s when I come in...I’m the quarterback that takes them to the next level.”
  (30:07)

• Classic pitchman catchphrases:

  "Take a look at this. I'm still not done. But wait, there's more."
  (31:06)

• Worst product ever pitched:

  “A light that goes on the inner side of the [toilet] lid...red is stop...green was go. So it was trying to tell someone how to go to the bathroom...It bombed out there.”
  (31:57)

• On shameless pitching:

  “Have you pitched something on TV that you don't really believe in?”
  "Never will, never have."
  (32:45)

• “I'm very oxiclean. And you know what? I don't know anybody that could act like [Vince Offer, the ShamWow guy] and get away with it.”
  (36:05)

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7. Flo Rida: Miami Roots & Overnight Success

[36:21-42:47]

• Flo Rida stays humble about opening for Pitbull and gives props to 2 Live Crew.

  "Definitely. We gotta give it up for the 2 Live Crew, you know?"
  (37:18)

• Reveals the origin story:

  "[Sat] in the studio...I'm gonna take Florida, break it in half and...the flow representing my melodic style, rider representing my gift to speed up and slow down my grind pattern. So there it was. Flo Rida."
  (38:13)

• Miami lifestyle—on bar mitzvah/private gigs that pay $100K for one song:

  "So far I did it probably like five times."
  (41:11)

• On staying grounded:

  "You know, if they could go out and purchase my music, I could at least give them, you know, a minute of my time."
  (40:01)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Ray Lewis:

  "The problem is, we create New Year’s resolutions instead of lifestyles, man. It’s about lifestyle." (05:41)

• Al Roker:

  "It’s still like, wow, they haven’t found me out yet. This is amazing. I love this country." (07:28)
  "I really like food." (10:38)

• Antonio Davis:

  "You either are [tough] or you are not." (26:11)
  "Fake it till you make it. But let me tell you, after that, I knew what tough was." (29:26)

• Stugotz:

  "That interview did nothing but make me hungry." (12:58)
  On Roy’s list: "Two Live Karoo is the best one. On this list, no doubt." (20:38)

• Billy Mays:

  "If you want to be around us [pitchmen], you got to act like." (35:27)
  "I’m very oxiclean. And you know what? I don’t know anybody that could act like that and get away with it." (36:05)

• Flo Rida:

  "I'm gonna take Florida, break it in half and...the flow representing my melodic style, rider representing my gift to speed up and slow down my grind pattern. So there it was. Flo Rida." (38:13)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:19] – Episode premise: Out-weirding "Stranger Things"
• [05:05] – Ray Lewis’s motivational monologue
• [06:06] – Al Roker’s weatherman Mount Rushmore & life
• [15:39] – Roy’s Top Ten Lists (Board games, Baseball-Rappers)
• [25:26] – Real Tough Guy or Fake Tough Guy (Antonio Davis)
• [30:07] – Billy Mays: Pitchman stories & infomercial beefs
• [36:21] – Flo Rida on Miami, success, and fan connection

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Tone & Style

This is an episode bursting with the irreverent, unpredictable, and affectionate energy that characterizes the Dan Le Batard Show. The banter is self-aware, relaxed, and always up for a left turn—laughing at itself while lovingly spotlighting South Florida’s quirks, sports outliers, and American pop excess. Every segment is a mini time capsule of Le Batard’s unique showmanship—part sports talk, part oddball variety hour.

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For New Listeners

Even if you’ve never heard the Dan Le Batard Show before, this episode is a sampler platter of its oddball humor, eclectic guests, and affectionate nostalgia. Whether you love sports, Miami-grown hip hop, classic infomercial culture, or just memorable radio chaos, there’s likely something in this “very weird hour” to make you laugh—and maybe even inspire you to snap an honest picture of yourself before the year ends.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Now we've arrived, Jeremy, at the Day After Christmas. That's right, we have arrived at the Day After Christmas. This is another strange episode. If I'm basically everything you're going to hear, today is a little bit weird. Today's like stranger episodes. Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Today.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, what we did transparently after Stranger Things aired on Christmas night, we were like, how can we be stranger than Stranger Things? And so we put together an episode that contains Ray Lewis delivering inspiration for the new year in 2016. Al Roker. Just an odd Just Al Roker.

[Stugotz]

Just.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just Al Roker. Strange. A couple of more Roy's top tens that include his top ten board games and baseball players. If they were rappers, Roy's as strange as we got around here. That's true. A game of Real Tough Guy or Fake Tough Guy With Antonio Davis. Okay, I was about to say that's not that strange of a game. Random guest. Exactly. Flo Rida, who was set to perform at a Florida Marlins game, had to cut a bit out of that interview. And Billy Mays. Ah, the guy, the. The Flex seal guy. Yeah. Billy Mays here, another product. Yeah, RIP Billy Mays. And here's a fun one. He goes after the sham wow guy for having been arrested for punching a prostitute. And that guy. Fun fact. Now running for Congress in Texas on an anti woke campaign. Welcome to 2026 everyone. We're almost there. Anyway, here's a weird hour.

[Stugotz]

2016. A new year comes in all the parties everywhere. New year resolutions are made. And then what? The time is right now. Waste no more time in life. I'm talking about if you in the hoods, you can always switch out. If you in big corporate buildings, the way you treat people can always change. The problem is we create New Year's resolutions instead of lifestyles, man. It's about lifestyle. It's about if you want to see.

[Antonio Davis]

Things change, change it.

[Stugotz]

No matter where you are on the food chain, man, don't let people trick you. 2016 is about doing you. You want to do something, snap a picture of yourself and at the end of this day, ask yourself what you don't like about you before you judge anybody else. Happy 2016. Do you?

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's do it this way. Al, give me the Mount Rushmore of weatherman.

[Stugotz]

Go ahead. You're on it.

[Al Roker]

Willard Scott.

[Stugotz]

Yep.

[Al Roker]

Dr. Frank Fields, I would say Sonny Elliott from Detroit. Dr. Dr. George Fishbeck in Los Angeles, since retired Dallas rains, Louisiana.

[Stugotz]

That's a great name for a leatherman.

[Al Roker]

Brian Norcross who was down there in Miami.

[Stugotz]

Really?

[Al Roker]

Yeah.

[Antonio Davis]

Oh yeah.

[Stugotz]

Not that gas bag Phil Farrow though.

[Al Roker]

I don't know Phil.

[Stugotz]

Good. You wouldn't like.

[Al Roker]

I cannot speak to his gas baggedness or not.

[Stugotz]

Al Roker with us on 790. The Ticket. Why are you America's most famous weatherman? Why?

[Dan Le Batard]

What.

[Stugotz]

What traits do you have that make this so.

[Al Roker]

I don't know that I am the most famous weatherman in America.

[Stugotz]

You are, Al.

[Al Roker]

I doubt that.

[Stugotz]

But why?

[Al Roker]

What's more famous guy?

[Stugotz]

All right, let's. Let's attack this from a different angle.

[Al Roker]

How often now we're attacking.

[Antonio Davis]

All right.

[Stugotz]

Yes, we are. You've looked around. I mean honestly, given what your skill is and given your fame, which I.

[Al Roker]

Know calling this a skill is a little suspect.

[Stugotz]

Well, that's where I'm going to head with this. Given what your skill is, you've found yourself in what position where you're pinching yourself and saying, I can't believe that I get this from doing this.

[Al Roker]

But you gotta understand, I felt like that from the beginning, you know, I mean this is the greatest gig going. And each time I've done, you know, I've moved up, it's still like, wow, they haven't found me out yet. This is amazing. I love this country.

[Stugotz]

But do you have one example above all others where you're sitting amongst people that you don't belong amongst?

[Al Roker]

Yeah, every day, the Today show.

[Stugotz]

Right.

[Al Roker]

But you know, I mean, look, it's. I'm a kid from Queens, you know, I don't know have any discernible skill set other than being able to talk on television. But you know, for whatever reason, it's not okay.

[Stugotz]

You should be doing the weather each morning with a ski mask on. Roker.

[Al Roker]

I should be. It would certainly be a lot easier for the children.

[Stugotz]

Check him out at Al Roker.

[Al Roker]

I mean I have people come up to me every day. Every day at least one person out at the window says Al Roker. You look so much better in person. And I think they believe that's a compliment.

[Stugotz]

What's your schedule like, how early do you wake up every day and when do you try to get to bed?

[Al Roker]

I get up at 3:15 and I do not go to bed until my 13 year old daughter is in bed. That's about 10 o', clock, 3:15.

[Stugotz]

So your life's not, not that you're complaining, but that's not normal. Let's.

[Al Roker]

Well, I mean, I don't know. You know what, here's the deal. A lot of people work that same shift or work those or up for those same amount of hours and get paid an awful lot less if you've got kids. If you commute, you know, you've got as long a day, if not longer than mine. So you're not going to get me complaining.

[Stugotz]

Al Roker with us on 790, the Ticket. You had gastric bypass surgery several years ago. You lost over £100. Was that the most difficult experience of your life?

[Al Roker]

You know what? No, I can be honest with you, not to get too serious. Losing both parents that, that, you know, losing friends in 9 11, there are a lot of difficult things. This was something, you know, that I just, you know, for whatever human failing I have and being able to lose weight, I knew I needed to do something. And as the last resort, I did this. I do not recommend it to people. Dangerous operation. 1 in 200 die from complications. But that said, it worked for me. And it's still a struggle every day.

[Stugotz]

How so? You still crave foods. It's a constant battle.

[Al Roker]

Unlike, say, drug abuse or alcohol abuse. You can avoid those substances and still live. You don't need them to survive food until they come up with a way to gain sustenance from water and air. You have to eat, so you deal with that. I still don't eat anywhere near as much as I did in my heyday. But I still have to watch, I still have to work out, I still have to exercise, I still have to watch what I eat.

[Stugotz]

What's the root of it, Al? Have you ever figured out what the root of it is?

[Al Roker]

I really like food.

[Stugotz]

So it's not any deeper than that. It's just. You like food?

[Al Roker]

It could be, but I think at the end of the day, I mean, you know, whatever issues somebody might have, well, why not drink or why not take drugs? Food, yes. Easy. But I like food. You know, it's good food, tastes good.

[Stugotz]

Agreed. I like food too. But you understand what I'm asking you. Like, I would think that if you're going into a life threatening surgery situation, right, you might have been able to sort of, or you might have been interested in sort of tangling through why it is that you hadn't been able to conquer the liking of food.

[Al Roker]

Well, I think it's just, you know, some people have an addictive personality, you know, and you know, now that I've, I've had the bypass, you know, the copious amounts of food a are not, you know, possible physically, but I don't have that desire for them.

[Dan Le Batard]

What food do you miss the most, Al?

[Al Roker]

I can't say that I miss any food because I eat a little bit of everything. So there really isn't anything I'm, I'm missing. I just don't, you know, like I said, I don't. I'm not as crazy as I once was about, you know, bread and butter, that sort of stuff because it just, I don't like, you know, it just doesn't go down well. But you know, I mean, I look, I still like a good, some good ribs, but I don't need a rack and a half anymore. I have two or three.

[Stugotz]

So what kind of damage would, would Big Al Roker do before gastric bypass? Like, you know, bad day. Al's decided he's going to eat a lot. What kind of damage is being done?

[Al Roker]

You know, it depends on the day. Could be, you know, stop by McDonald's get a couple of quarter pounders and a couple of fries and a thick shake or whatever. You know, sit down in front of the TV and, you know, just, you know, pig out. Could be a pint of Haagen Dazs at once. You know, who knows? It depends on the day. That sounds a sleeve of Lorna Doone cookies.

[Stugotz]

Thanks for stopping by, Alex.

[Al Roker]

Hey, thank you, guys.

[Stugotz]

Dad, I couldn't give up food the way Roker did. He didn't say he gave up food. Were you listening to anything that was said there? He didn't say he gave up food. He had a surgery, a life threatening surgery so that he would just need less food. His stomach wouldn't allow him to continue inhaling food at the rate that he was.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was listening. But the guy went from a rack.

[Stugotz]

Of ribs, rack and a half of.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ribs to a single rib.

[Stugotz]

A lonely little rib sitting on the plate. Just one little lonely rib dangling there. That interview did nothing but make me hungry.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's the holiday season and the 50th anniversary of Miller Lite.

[Stugotz]

The holiday is all about spending time with friends and family.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why don't you sit back and toast a few Miller Lights? Make your holiday time.

[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

On all the good times that you had with your trusty buddy by your side.

[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

That iconic golden color.

[Stugotz]

And at 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces, it lets you enjoy.

[Dan Le Batard]

The season without weighing you down. The original light beer since 1975 and still hit indifferent 50 years later.

[Stugotz]

The best holiday beers are the ones you don't expect.

[Dan Le Batard]

Miller Lite great taste.

[Stugotz]

96 calories.

[Dan Le Batard]

Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you.

[Stugotz]

Or you can pick up some Miller.

[Dan Le Batard]

Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer.

[Stugotz]

Tis Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

[Dan Le Batard]

Critics are calling Marty Supreme a full throttle masterpiece and the best movie of the year. I couldn't be more excited to see this one that's got my boy. Timothee Chalamet from A24. And starring Timothee Chalamet alongside powerhouse cast Gwyneth Paltrow, Odessa Azion and Tyler Akoma. Marty supreme now playing only in theaters.

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[Stugotz]

The Frog here live from Metalog Media Studios here in Miami. Stugats. The Germans are advancing on France in World War II. This is the Don Leb avatar show with his two guys. Time now for Roy's top 10 list. It's a segment that's growing in popularity, sweeping both the Internet, South Florida and the world. Time now for Roy's top 10 list. These are Roy's top 10 board games. Roy's top 10 board game. Now, I've been sitting on this for about a half hour. Usually I'm good at this. I have at least four or five before we go into the list. I only have number one. What do you think? Shuffleboard? Well, you just gave it away. Well, but that's not gonna be it. Board games. Mm. Shuffleboard. Mm. I don't think that's gonna be it. All right, let me cross it off here. Number 10, Roy Black Gammon.

[Antonio Davis]

Get that.

[Stugotz]

I've lost my.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're not doing this thing enough.

[Stugotz]

I'll tell you. That's the problem. We're not doing the top 10 enough. So I'm rusty. It's somebody else's fault. Well, it's not mine. Number nine, Roy Hungry Ass Hippos. Hungry. Do you like that? Game. I did like that game actually. So awesome. Played it yesterday. Number eight, Roy Fats. Dominoes. Number seven, Roy Fats. I just got connect foe. You stop it right there. As far as I'm concerned, there's six better than that. Connect four. That's not what he said. I say connect four. Number six, Roy Obama Napoli. Number five. I think that was five all over Candyland. Why do you throw things at me during this? Why do you laugh so hard that you throw things at me during this? I just threw number four. The game of life sentence. Now. Why would you do that? Sorry. Why are you leaving? You're leaving now? Your laughter, Your laughter is so strong and pulsating that you're leaving. Number three, Roy Risk Ross. Number two, roy 100 foot. Yahtzee. There were six better than knife foe. Number one, roy. Bill pacheesi. Roy, roy, roy, roy roy. Oh my God. These are Roy's all time favorite baseball heroes. If. Oh, wow. Threw me off. There's an if here. They had rapperish names. Oh, wow. You need to revise my list real quick. Had straight baseball players, rapper names. Kind of like rappers. Singers, like Flavor Flav, something like that. Yes, okay. Just. I didn't know the definition of a rapper.

[Antonio Davis]

Okay.

[Stugotz]

Number 10, Roy Bone Thugs and Harmon Killaroo. Just hold on a second. Let me tear up my list for. For multiple reasons. I don't know any rappers on my list is useless. One second, Dan. Okay, we're back. We're back. Well, I'm back. You were talking into the microphone throughout that segment. You didn't go anywhere. Well, now I'm back. I ripped up my list and I'm back and I'm writing up a new list. What? Where are we? Number nine. Number nine, Roy. Jay Zo. Number eight, Roy. Giants pitcher, Notorious BI Jeter. This is glorious. Number seven, Roy LL Cool J Johnstone.

[Antonio Davis]

I don't know.

[Stugotz]

What don't you like about that? That's the funniest one visually. You've got a Dodger outfield runner running around out there. Number six, Roy. Grandmaster Flash Gordon. That's pretty good. I like that one. Number five, Doug E. Glanville. That's actually one that I had. That's of course from Dougie Fresh. Right? Number four. Two Live Karoo. It's not gonna get better than that. You're familiar with their work. That's. That's the best one. I'm sure I haven't seen the list, but he will not do better than 2 Live Karoo. It's the best one. On this list, no doubt. Number three, DJ Jazzy Jeff. Konine. Number two, Roy Run Diemcito Gaston. That is them. It's not as good as 2 live Karoo and I will not discuss this. I will not discuss this anymore. Two Live Karoo is the best one. Number one, Roy. JT Snow. Coasting was just. Oh, was that a beauty. It was genius.

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[Stugotz]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. All right, we're going to invent a new game here with Antonio Davis right now. We're going to invent it right now in honor of Carmelo and Kevin Garnett going at each other. We're going to play real tough guy or fake tough guy with. With. Yeah, Antonio David. So. And you don't have to get. Give elaborations. You can if you'd like, but you don't have to. Kendrick Perkins. Real tough guy or fake tough guy?

[Antonio Davis]

I think real tough guy. I think if it comes down to it and they had a fight, he would punch somebody for real. So I say real tough guy.

[Stugotz]

Reggie Evans, real tough guy or fake tough guy?

[Antonio Davis]

Fake tough guy. I don't. I don't like when you. You come across as a tough guy, but every time you look around, you're floppy. Either you're gonna stand up and be a bruiser or you're not. You know, this is not about tricking anybody and thinking that you're tough. You either are. You are.

[Stugotz]

Tyler Handsbro, real tough guy or fake tough guy?

[Antonio Davis]

I think he has real tough Guy intentions.

[Stugotz]

But Antonio, what the hell did you just do to our game? Part of this game. Do you not understand? He's got a tough guy nickname. Antonio Psycho, too.

[Antonio Davis]

Yes. You know, I, I think that it's real tough guy intentions.

[Stugotz]

I don't know what that means.

[Antonio Davis]

I don't know what. Not a real. No. He's not a real tough guy. No. I'm gonna say no.

[Stugotz]

You. Donna's Haslam. Real tough guy or fake tough guy?

[Antonio Davis]

I'm gonna say real tough guy. I think if it came down to it, I think that he would. He would actually do it. I think he would. Yeah. I'm gonna stay real tough guy.

[Stugotz]

Zach Randolph, Real tough guy or fake tough guy?

[Antonio Davis]

Oh, tough guy.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Antonio Davis]

Yeah, that's it.

[Stugotz]

We can move on.

[Billy Mays]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

No one even thinks.

[Antonio Davis]

Yeah. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say, as he says, though, that he's gotten much better. I think he's letting his, his play speak for his toughness right now.

[Stugotz]

Rajon Rondo, real tough guy or fake tough guy?

[Antonio Davis]

Oh, man, fake tough guy. He just, he just has. He got some things going on he need to work out with himself. He need to accept his role as a leader and go about being tough mentally and showing everybody that he can lead the Boston Celtics to big playoff games.

[Stugotz]

Now, Antonio Davis, if you're not familiar with his work, he was a real tough guy. Is there anybody else on your list where it sounds like, would you be a little afraid of Charles Oakley? Is there a guy out there that you played with that you were just a little bit afraid of, even though you were a real tough guy?

[Antonio Davis]

Listen, when, when you, when you are being told that you're going to play the New York Knicks and they have a guy on their team that if you show any weakness, if you back down at all, this guy is going to smash you every time he sees you. So this is, this is your moment right here. What are you going to chose at that point? I'm going to go at him first, you know, scared as I was, as soon as I had the opportunity, I was going to whack him first. Not dirty, you know, not dirty, but just let him know, like, listen, man, they told me about you, and I ain't scared if you just don't have to beat me up. Yes, I was scared to death. I'm not going to lie.

[Stugotz]

But tough guys can't project that. He can't portray that.

[Antonio Davis]

But, you know, it's just one of those things that, you know, back when we played, you had to do it. And it wasn't about talk. If you were going to talk, that was just throwing fuel on that fire. You eventually were going to have a fight.

[Stugotz]

So you went into the fear. I mean, you were faking is what you're saying. Exactly.

[Antonio Davis]

I was. Fake it till you make it. I was faking it. But let me tell you, after that, I knew what tough was. I knew what it was about. And it was just that defining moment. Are you willing to knock the crap out of somebody and deal with the consequences later? And from that point on, I was willing to knock the crap out of somebody and deal with the consequences.

[Stugotz]

Excellent debut effort, Antonio. We really enjoyed having you on. Thank you for making time for us. Billy May is with us now. He's TV's most recognizable infomercial pitch man. The Pitchman show. You've been. It's people trying to get you to get behind their products or inventions, right? That's what. How it works.

[Billy Mays]

That's right. In fact, the show is called Pitchman, but it's about the people and the products they bring us and about the stories, you know, because I gotta tell you, these products that are brought to us, they have a story. Someone's putting their house up for a second mortgage. I mean, they are, you know, they're putting their kids education on the line. I don't know how crazy that is, but I have to tell you something. The American dream is alive and well. And I gotta tell you something, Go for it. Because everybody has an idea. You know what? It's these people that put these ideas down on paper, make a prototype, and they venture out, they put their own money up and they're going to take it to the next level. That's when I come in. In fact, I never. I'm not an inventor and, you know, I don't really have the ideas in my head. I'm the quarterback that takes them to the next level.

[Stugotz]

When you, you just used a couple of times there the phrase, I got to tell you something, which is a very. I gotta tell you what's another very pitch man phrase?

[Dan Le Batard]

What?

[Stugotz]

I gotta tell you something. It's something that makes me watch this.

[Billy Mays]

Take a look at this. I'm still not done. But wait, there's more.

[Stugotz]

Because I got to tell you something. I don't trust somebody who says, I got to tell you something.

[Billy Mays]

Well, you could trust me because you know what? I've been on TV for the last 11 years. And let me tell you this, Dan. If you have a product that doesn't work on TV you met. You better get out, because you just can't sell anything on tv. And you know what? The thing is, I'm very proud of my record. And the products that I bring to people have to go through a rigorous test for every product you see. And you know what? There's so many products you don't see because they don't make it. They don't get to get into my repertoire, my product profile. So I really turn a lot of products down before I get to that winner.

[Stugotz]

What's the worst thing you've ever been asked to pitch?

[Billy Mays]

The worst thing? Geez. I'll tell you a product that tells you whether to put your toilet seat up or down. It was actually a light that goes on the inner side of the lid. So if the, you know, the thing you sit down on is down, it would put a bullseye into the bath, into the water that would say. It would say red is stop. And then if the seat was up, it was green, was go. So it was trying to tell someone how to go to the bathroom. So it was more. More for the ladies out there. So, you know about, you know, keeping that toilet seat up. So I thought that was kind of stupid. And it really didn't sell. I passed on it. It went on to the Home Shopping Network and it. It bombed out there.

[Stugotz]

Can you, Billy, or have you pitched something on TV that you don't really believe in?

[Billy Mays]

Never will, never have.

[Stugotz]

What's the most money you've ever been, you've ever made off of a product?

[Billy Mays]

Oh, you know, that's a loaded question. You know, you make a lot of money. I'm not going to get into numbers. And George will say the numbers. You could say the numbers for George because he's made hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm mentally rich. Slightly overdrawn, but mentally rich. You know what? I've done it all. I've made it all for what I need in my life. Now it's time to take these products to the next level. Help the American inventor out. Because like I said, through every great recession and Great Depression comes greater innovation. And these are tough economic times. I don't want to get so cliche ish on you, but these are the toughest economic times that we've been through, I guess, in the last 20 years. But you know what? I'm here to tell you that the American dream is alive and well. And I gotta tell you, this will actually give you some more hope when you watch Pitchman, because these products are real. We're Taking them to the next level. We're making one product work each week out of the two. So last time I checked, that's a 500% batting average. That's not too bad.

[Stugotz]

Billy May is with us on 790 the tickets. Was there a product that you've endorsed in the past that you thought would be an enormous, huge hit, and it turned out to be a flop?

[Billy Mays]

You know what I keep, you know, aim small, miss Small. I don't really, you know, look, I thought that oxiclean was going to be, you know, just very nominal. You know, we just sold the company to arm and hammer in the last two and a half years for $327 million. So, I mean, OxiClean is number one in this category. Kaboom is a gigantic product. These products, I really never thought that they would make it. And, you know, the thing is, mighty putty, the mighty brands, these products here, you know, I kind of set not the highest expectations for them, but, you know, in this business, I do so many different products, and I don't get emotionally attached to them, but, you know, I get personally involved with them. You know, I put everything on the line. You know, I go out there and try to hit one out of the park every time. So, you know, I don't know if that answer your question, but, you know, the Oxiclean has really been a product that I thought would not be as big as it was, and it really is. And you know what? It works. And that's the main thing.

[Stugotz]

Billy, you have pitchman beef with Vince offer from shamwow.

[Billy Mays]

You know what? I have a beef with anybody that does what he's done. And, you know, I try to take the high road, but if you put it to me like that, yeah, I have a beef with you. If you're gonna try to call yourself a pitchman, you got to act in accordance to it, you know, And I don't know any other pitchman that acts like he does. So, you know, he should straighten up or ship out, something like that.

[Stugotz]

Well, what do you mean there? You mean because of his behavior with a prostitute here in Miami or.

[Billy Mays]

You know what I mean? You know exactly what I mean, so. Yeah, yeah, I mean, exactly that. I don't condemn, condone anybody that's going to a prostitute, let alone somebody that beats that prostitute up. So if you're listening out there, Vince, get some help, because you need to. You just can't go around doing that. And, you know, being in, you know, it's just like someone in The NFL doing that. And, you know, one of the other NFL players. You know, we take pride in what we do. I mean, there's a lot of great pitchmen out there. And, you know, we have a small band of brothers out there. If you want to be around us, you got to act like.

[Stugotz]

So he's not following the pitch man code.

[Billy Mays]

Oh, come on. You know what I mean? Last time I checked. You know what? I'm very oxiclean. And you know what? I don't know anybody that could act like that and get away with it. You know what? You should be suspended. You should, you know, have to do something. But evidently he's done nothing.

[Stugotz]

Suspended by whom? Like what? The pitch man. The greatest infomercial pitch man of all time went after the shamwow guy. You never know what controversy is going to spring up on this show. Finally, the Florida Marlins put together a good concert. They got Flo Rida, they got Pitbull. I don't want to start beef here, but flo Rida's got two number one hits, and you're opening for Pitbull 2. He's got Grammy awards, and you're opening for Pitbull. How does that work? I am starting beef, aren't I? Flow.

[Antonio Davis]

Not at all. Not at all. I mean, shout out to, you know, my boy Pitbull. We definitely was in the grand project having a record deal, you know, we grinded out, putting out mixtapes and everything. So much love, you know, I mean, we all hometown favorites, so we're gonna do it big.

[Stugotz]

You're from Carroll City. What's the. What's the greatest hip hop act to ever come out of Miami?

[Antonio Davis]

Definitely. We gotta give it up for the 2 Live crew, you know? Definitely. You know, that's like a big friend of mine. So, I mean, who you.

[Stugotz]

Who'd you look at and say, I want to be them?

[Antonio Davis]

Was the 2 Live crew, man, because, you know, they had the nice cars, nice girls in their videos, nice jewels, and I mean, always looked.

[Stugotz]

Flo Rida with us on 7 90, the Ticket. I love saying that. You've got the greatest name in the history of hip hop. Correct.

[Antonio Davis]

Appreciate it all day, you know? Definitely. I mean, I want to thank the fans, you know? Definitely. Representing Florida to the fullest.

[Stugotz]

Who your. Your sisters? You're one. You're. You're the only boy, right? You're. You grew up among. Among a bunch of sisters. No.

[Antonio Davis]

Yeah, I got seven sisters. I'm. I have a twin sister, you know, I'm the only boy. I'm the youngest.

[Stugotz]

And so what they call you flo or what do they call you?

[Antonio Davis]

They call me by my birth given name. They just be like tramar. So when they. When they playing around, they might say florada.

[Stugotz]

You know, your birth given name is what? Excuse me?

[Antonio Davis]

Tramar.

[Stugotz]

Okay, so you changed it. How'd you get flo rida? How did it become flo rida?

[Antonio Davis]

I mean, just sitting in the studio, you know, with my homeboy cisco, who actually produced some of my tracks early on. And you should look forward to him being on my new album, you know, my third album. But we were sitting down at his crib and, you know, being an artist, you have to come up with a name. So I just was like, you know, I'm gonna take Florida, break it in half and, you know, the flow Representing my melodic style rider representing my gift to speed up and slow down my grind pattern so there it was. Flo rida.

[Stugotz]

Flo Rida. And this is a great show they've put together. Finally, the marlins put together a great show. Flo rida with us now. You're on American Idol. 25 million viewers. What's that like?

[Antonio Davis]

Oh, man. You know, I always dreamed of just going to, you know, being an audience member, but to go on stage, I mean, you know, right after the show, I got so many phone calls. You know, I always give up my cell phone number. So, you know, and all the fans were telling me how, you know, a great job I did, you know, and I was just like, wow, you know, American idol to be like this in the stage is like a dream come true. I'm not a single, but I mean, just to have, you know, entertain those who watch the show and those who are actually performing at the show was something a great deal for me.

[Stugotz]

And. And what is your cell phone number?

[Antonio Davis]

Oh, yes, 305-528-2786. That's 300-552-8-2786. And I actually have a tour coming up around the world and actually all the fans could stream them live online at www. My content.com. i'm the first artist to do it. That's www.mycontent.com. and you can watch all my shows live.

[Stugotz]

Now, how often does that actually happen when you actually pick up that telephone number?

[Antonio Davis]

I mean, you know, for the most part, you know, if I'm not doing an interview or, you know, doing, you know, some TV or video things, if I can't get some, I'll text back, but for the most part, I say, like, maybe like 100 times out the.

[Stugotz]

Day I'll answer just to talk to regular strangers.

[Antonio Davis]

I mean, to the fans, you know, that buys my music. You know, I think if they could go out and purchase my music, I could at least give them, you know, a minute of my time.

[Stugotz]

Now you. You. You are enormous. You're enormous in more ways than one. Flo rider with us on seven Night of the Ticket, he's got two number one hits and physically huge.

[Dan Le Batard]

You.

[Stugotz]

You got to be a steroid guy, right? You have to be. You got to dabble in some steroids.

[Antonio Davis]

Not at all. I don't. I don't even take no type of nutrition. I eat the way I want. I don't watch a diet or not, you know, from the hood, I just go. We do push ups and you know, just probably, you know, run around the block or something.

[Stugotz]

Get out of here. What is that? You can't look like that. Just eating whatever you want. Running around the block a couple of times.

[Antonio Davis]

Oh, yeah. I guess it's genetic.

[Stugotz]

It's not fair. Flow rider with us on 7 92nd. Your life's pretty good right now, right?

[Antonio Davis]

It's great. You know, in a minute I'll be pulling up on south beach in my Maybach, you know, popping champagne bottles and getting ready, you know, go check out the ladies that's gonna be in the video.

[Stugotz]

And. And. But you also now, what, What. What's the most ridiculous money you make? I know, I understand that you go to like a bar mitzvah. You play one song, you leave like 100 grand. A hundred grand just for going to a bar?

[Antonio Davis]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

How often you do that?

[Antonio Davis]

I mean, so far I did it probably like five times.

[Stugotz]

And how does that work? You just. Somebody calls you and says, hey, my son's a big fan. You come in and you. You just perform one song and they give you a suitcase full of cash.

[Antonio Davis]

Well, actually, they just hit up, you know, my management, and then we just go and make it happen. Always, you know, exciting. You know, everyone is in the uproar when I approach the red carpet and everything. And we just put it down.

[Stugotz]

Do you have Miami athletes calling you now, trying to hang out now that you're giving out your cell phone to everybody? Like, does Dwyane Wade try and contact you because he just wants to hang out?

[Antonio Davis]

No, not at all. But, you know, shout out to Wayne Way, shout out, my homeboy. You've done this happen, you know, long time friend and stuff. So, I mean, if anything, you know, I got the number, I hit him up or vice versa.

[Stugotz]

You're from Carroll City, correct?

[Antonio Davis]

Care City. All day. 187th Street, 37th Avenue Apts. All day.

[Stugotz]

And how often do you go back there?

[Antonio Davis]

I mean, for the most part I'm traveling so much. You know, if it's Thanksgiving, Christmas or you know, sometimes I go take all my homeboys who still live there, you know, I'll go back there.

[Stugotz]

Give me an example flow of one time that you go out to your mailbox, wherever it is that you're living these days, and you're surprised because there's just a giant check in there that you weren't expecting. You're like, oh my God, look at this. It's great to be me. Because look at this giant check I wasn't expecting. It's for blank, you know, I mean.

[Antonio Davis]

For the most part, you know, I got the mail transferred over to my new resort. You know, I can call it a mansion, I call it a resort, you know, but I'll go through that. You know, when I pull up the mailboxes is actually right there by the street. So everybody start calling everybody and they, you know, they just come out and we just, just be chilling and vibing, you know, just say what's up to the old friends and things like that.

[Stugotz]

But you didn't answer my question though. Like what? What? The amount of money in the mailbox.

[Antonio Davis]

Oh, we ought to keep that on a low, low, low, low.

[Stugotz]

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[Stugotz]

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