Best of DLS: Bob Barker is Undoubtedly The Greatest Game Show Host Ever

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Best of DLS: Bob Barker is Undoubtedly The Greatest Game Show Host Ever

Date: December 23, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Episode Overview

This “Best Of” episode is a rollicking celebration of sports, pop culture, and legendary personalities, delivered with the irreverent wit and chaotic energy that defines The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz. At its core, the episode features a remarkable 2009 interview with beloved “Price Is Right” host Bob Barker, plus classic moments with Carl Weathers, NFL referee Ed "Guns" Hochuli, and NFL legends. The hosts bounce between nostalgia and comedy, offering insightful and hilarious snapshots into their favorite guests—and into the strange magic of sports media.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Bob Barker Interview: Game Show Royalty & Animal Rights Icon

[04:50 – 20:36]

• Initial Reaction to Michael Vick & Dog Fighting

  • Bob Barker, a committed animal rights activist, expresses his dismay at Vick’s actions but notes the incident brought much-needed awareness to the issue.
    • Bob Barker: “I was aghast… Inadvertently, he has served a purpose. He brought attention to dog fighting like nothing that animal rights activists… have been able to do.” [05:24]

• Should Michael Vick Play Again?

  • Barker, unwavering, says Vick should not be allowed to play and calls for a boycott if he does.
    • Bob Barker: “No, I would not allow him to play again. And if he does play, I hope people will boycott the game.” [06:57]

• Game Show Host Rankings: Self-Acknowledged GOAT

  • Asked if he’s the greatest game show host, Barker has zero hesitation:
    • Bob Barker: “Undoubtedly.” [07:25]
  • Playful word association with other hosts—high praise all around, some fun shade (“…I’ve seen some I think are pretty bad. Yes.” [08:43])

• On Drew Carey Taking Over “Price Is Right”

  • Barker is gracious, says Carey does it “completely differently… and apparently it’s working out.” [08:49]

• Behind “Happy Gilmore”: Legendary Cameo & Karate Chops

  • Stories from the set, including how he landed the scene and why he insisted on doing his own stunts:
    • Bob Barker: “I came up here to win a fight. I didn’t come up here to watch a stuntman win the fight.” [09:25]
  • Reveals he trained in karate for years with Chuck Norris [13:29].
    • Bob Barker: “Chuck used to come over and beat me up, and I'd never won a fight. So I thought, man, I want to do this picture.” [09:25]

• Most Memorable Career Moments

  • Most important call: The day in 1956 he was told he’d host “Truth or Consequences.”
  • On-air highlight: The famous “lady in the tube top” incident on “Price Is Right” [12:01].

• Being a “Ladies’ Man” & Tabloid Rumors

  • Skips over lawsuits/tabloid drama, prefers to keep things positive and happy.
    • Bob Barker: “I'm basically a happy guy. So I didn't want to go into that lawsuit.” [15:53]

• Favorite “Price Is Right” Games

  • While Plinko is the crowd favorite, Barker loves any game that allows playful contestant banter [14:51].

• Animal Advocacy & The DJ&T Foundation

  • Barker clarifies he spends millions, doesn’t raise millions, funding animal rescue out of pocket [11:18].
  • Bob Barker: “I don’t raise millions of dollars. I spend millions of dollars. I finance that foundation myself…” [11:18]

• Tech Savvy at 85?

  • Hilariously admits he’s “computer illiterate, and I’m gonna die that way.” [17:31]

• Memorable Life Lessons

  • “You give a woman a car and you’re going to get a kiss. It works every time.” [18:52]

2. Carl Weathers: The GOATs of Muscles, Machismo, and Movie Lore

[23:20 – 31:35]

• Iconic Movie Lines & Predatory Muscles

  • Carl Weathers dishes on Predator’s macho set, joking about being the only one who didn’t become governor.
    • Carl Weathers: "All clean, baby—all clean in the gym." [24:29]
    • “Guess who’s gonna be your new governor in Florida? Take a look at my direction, baby.” [25:11]

• Most Shouted Movie Quotes in Public

  • “Yo, Adrian!”, “Dylan, you’re pushing too many pencils,” and “Ain’t gonna be no rematch.” [25:43–26:23]
    • Easily the #1 question: “Ain’t gonna be no rematch.”

• Sports Badasses Weathers Admires

  • Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O’Neal, and controversially, Barry Bonds.
    • Carl Weathers: “For all the controversy the statement will cause, I think Barry Bonds is the badass of all badasses.” [27:17]

• Typecasting, Favorite Movies, and Macho Energy

  • Jokes about losing his arms in movies, but says “the fear is never working again.”
  • Most fun filming: “Predator.” [31:01]

• Legendary Career Moment

  • Talks about the “Yo, Apollo!” birth of fame—overnight, street vendors knew his name post-Rocky. [29:12]

• Joking About Homoerotic Rocky Training Montage

  • Admits “we designed it because we were in love with each other” with tongue-in-cheek bravado. [30:31]

3. Ed “Guns” Hochuli: The Buffest Referee in the NFL

[34:32 – 41:48]

• How “Guns” Got His Nickname

  • TV commentator Phil Simms circled his arms on-air; the rest is meme history. [35:53]

• Physical Feats and Pizzazz

  • Refuses to brag about his bench-press, says he’s built for reps not weight. [37:11]
  • Admits to “putting a little pizzazz” into his famous first-down signal. [38:48]

• Ranking Referee Calls for Maximum Flexing

  • #3: Unsportsmanlike Conduct (arms to side);
    #2: Holding (bicep at 90º flex);
    #1: Roughing the Passer, “I get to actually get some violence into it…” [41:17]
  • Debate erupts about illegal touching and safety calls.
    • Ed Hochuli: “When you referee that, those can be your favorite calls. But I’ve given you mine.” [41:43]

4. JJ Watt: “Douche or No Douche”/”Cool or Uncool” Game

[42:00 – 44:03]

• JJ refuses to say “douche,” so the game switches to “cool or uncool.”
• Notable answers:
  • Updating a picture of your drink: Not cool. [42:58]
  • Ryan Gosling: “I don’t know who Ryan Gosling is.” [42:51]
  • Roger Goodell: “He’s cool. [pause] I haven’t been fined yet this year, so he’s cool.” (dubious sincerity)

5. Jason Taylor vs. Jimmy Johnson: A Sideline Scuffle

[44:05 – 49:25]

• Taylor narrates the time Dolphins coach Jimmy Johnson grabbed him after an on-field altercation, and he swatted Jimmy’s hands away—a moment that would explode today if caught on camera.
  • Jason Taylor: “I slapped his arms off me again, and I kind of shoved him back to get away from me.” [46:46]
  • Emotion and pride, but ultimately mutual apologies—never discussed again between them.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bob Barker on Game Shows:

  • “Are you the best game show host ever?”
    Bob Barker: “Undoubtedly.” [07:25]

• On Animal Activism:

  • “I don’t raise millions of dollars. I spend millions of dollars. I finance that foundation myself.” [11:18]
  • “I'm part Sioux Indian and Sioux. The Sioux were known as great warriors and great lovers.” [14:38]

• Carl Weathers on Movie Machismo:

  • “Guess what? I’m coming to Miami—guess who’s going to be your new governor in Florida…?” [25:11]
  • “For all the controversy the statement will cause, I think Barry Bonds is the badass of all badasses.” [27:17]
  • On homoerotic Rocky scenes: “You know, we designed it because we were in love with each other.” [30:31]

• Ed Hochuli, Doing What’s Needed:

  • “I've been asked if I shop at Kids Gap.” [37:53]
  • “Number one would be roughing the passer because then I get to actually get some violence into it as I chop one hand and throw the arm down and really get a mean look on my face.” [41:17]

• JJ Watt, Unflappable:

  • “You’re not gonna get me to say that word on the air no matter what!” [42:16]
  • Roger Goodell: “He’s cool… I haven’t been fined yet this year, so he’s cool.” [43:57]

• Jason Taylor, The NFL’s Grown Men:

  • “I slapped his arms off me again, and I kind of shoved him back to get away from me. ... But nowadays, oh my goodness, it'd be blowing up.” [46:46–49:25]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Bob Barker Interview: 04:50 – 20:36
• Carl Weathers Interview: 23:20 – 31:35
• Ed Hochuli Interview: 34:32 – 41:48
• JJ Watt “Douche or No Douche” Game: 42:00 – 44:03
• Jason Taylor/Jimmy Johnson Story: 44:05 – 49:25

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Tone and Style

True to DLS form, the episode is a high-wire act—simultaneously absurd, sincere, and gleefully tangential. Hosts Dan and Stugotz serve as both instigators and fans, often allowing the guests to run wild (e.g., Bob Barker’s stories) or pushing them into meta-comedy (as with the “Douche or No Douche” game and Ed Hochuli’s flexing).

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For First-Time Listeners

This episode is a stellar snapshot of what makes “Best Of” Le Batard shows so beloved: the blend of pop culture icons, irreverent questioning, and sports nostalgia, all with a meta-winking acknowledgment that the show’s greatness lies in both its unpredictability and its deep affection for its guests.

If you’ve never listened before, this Best Of will have you laughing, learning a bit of TV history, and maybe even searching for the clip of Bob Barker throwing a karate punch.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Bob Barker]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Stugotz]

So that was an hour?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, it was something great.

I'd call that a great start. What do we got next?

[Stugotz]

All right, here we go. So an interview from 2009. Who do you think Dan would have started by asking about Michael Vick and dog fighting in 2009?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, man, it's Bob Barker.

[Stugotz]

Of course.

[Dan Le Batard]

I guess it dog bark.

[Stugotz]

It does make sense. Well, no, it's also he, you know, he loves animals. But I like where your head's at more than anything else. Yeah, there's some really interesting stuff in that Bob Barker interview. We also have some muscular men. Carl Weathers, Ed hockey, a game of douche or no douche. With J.J. watt in which he refuses to say the word douche. And a story with Jason Taylor who was ready to fight Jimmy Johnson. Which wow. Which of those do stands out to you the most? Dear Chris?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh my God. I mean Jason Taylor. I can smell him just thinking about it.

[Stugotz]

I love the way that Dan and Stugotz salivate over Carl Weathers and Ed Hockey.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, and Jason Taylor too. I mean he smells delightful.

[Stugotz]

There are some when. When J.J. watt has the fourth best arms in an episode.

[Bob Barker]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

And Bob Barker throws punches.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's get to it.

[Stugotz]

We hear him say the word well bleep over and over and over again. Get excited.

[Dan Le Batard]

Bob Barker with us, numerous Emmy awards, host of the Price is right for 35 years, beloved American icon and somebody who has raised millions, millions of dollars to help animals and animal rescue. Millions of dollars. Bob Barker with us on 790 the Ticket. I can't even imagine. We're a sports show so I can't image im how Bob Barker experienced the Michael Vick News. When you heard about Michael Vick fighting dogs, Bob Barker's reaction was what?

[Bob Barker]

Well, I was aghast. I could not imagine a young man with the God given talent that Vic has and the success he had being involved in any way in something so horrible and so disgusting as dog fighting. And inadvertently he has served a purpose. He brought attention to dog fighting like nothing that animal rights activists or authorities have been able to do. And people who didn't even realize that dog fighting was going on. And of course it is every place all over the United States and people who didn't weren't aware of it are suddenly very much aware of it. And I understand that more dogfights are being reported. I understand that more charges are being filed and I understand that more convictions are being had as a result. So without intending to, he's actually helped these poor fighting dogs a bit.

[Dan Le Batard]

If you want to check out some of the work that Bob Barker does with animal rescue, go to djtfoundation.org djtfoundation.org Bob, should he be allowed?

[Stugotz]

If you were the commissioner of the NFL, would you allow him to play in the NFL again, which would be.

[Dan Le Batard]

Great by the way.

[Bob Barker]

No, I would not allow him to play again. And if he does play, I hope people will boycott the game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really, Bob should be out there boycotting the games. You should lead that protest.

[Bob Barker]

I beg your pardon?

[Dan Le Batard]

You should, you should lead that protest. If you do that, you know how much attention you'd bring to it? 85 years old Bob Barker with us on 790. The Ticket. Let's. Are you. Can you do this? I know you.

[Ad Read Announcer 1]

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[Dan Le Batard]

You're. You're a humble man, but are you the best game show host ever?

[Bob Barker]

Undoubtedly.

[Dan Le Batard]

How great was that, Stu Guts? Undoubtedly. All right, we're gonna go. We're gonna go. Of game show hosts, and I would like for you to just give me the first thing that pops into your mind, if you don't mind.

[Bob Barker]

All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Little word association. Alex Trebek.

[Bob Barker]

Alex Trebek is a great guy and a fine host.

[Dan Le Batard]

Pat Sajak. He might rip a host here. Pat Sajak.

[Bob Barker]

Pat Sajak is another splendid host and has been instrumental in keeping that show as popular as it's been for all these years.

[Dan Le Batard]

Chuck Woolery.

[Bob Barker]

Chuck Woolery, I thought, was one of the very fine hosts as well. And I can't understand why he's not still working, because the last time I saw him, he looks great.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wink Martindale.

[Bob Barker]

Wink Martindale was a very successful disc jockey in Memphis. They brought him out here, and he did a good job for many years.

[Dan Le Batard]

Also the best name of a game show host ever. Correct?

[Bob Barker]

Wink Martindale. There's nothing to compare with it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Richard Dawson.

[Bob Barker]

Richard Dawson. I gave his first job as a host, so, you know, I liked him. I had him on a local show here in California. It was his first hosting job. He did a fine job and went on to great success. And Family Feud.

[Dan Le Batard]

You. Is there any game show host that you say is just terrible, that guy's no good at what he does?

[Bob Barker]

Well, I'm not going to say it. I've seen some I think are pretty bad. Yes.

[Stugotz]

Drew Carey stinks at your old job, right? Stinks.

[Bob Barker]

You know, Drew. Drew Carey, actually. People ask me about Drew a lot, of course. And he does exactly what he should do in that. He doesn't imitate Bob Barker in any way. He does the show completely differently than I did. And he doesn't imitate anybody else. Any other host. He is himself. And apparently it's working out. The show's still in the air. And that was two years ago.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you have any idea when you did Happy Gilmore with Adam Sandler that your scene would be talked about for years and years to come while you were doing the scene? The price is wrong.

[Bob Barker]

It's one of the great surprises of my life. It really is. I had no idea. You know, Adam wrote that part of the movie himself, and he had watched Price is Right ever since he was a kid, and he wrote that for me. He didn't tell me he was writing it, but Then he sent it to me. And when I saw that I won the fight, I said, I'll delete the picture. You bet I will. Because I'd been studying karate for years with Chuck Norris, and Chuck used to come over and beat me up, and I'd never won a fight. So I thought, man, I want to do this picture. So I did. And I went up there. They shot it in Canada. And the director started telling me, you will be doing this, you'll do that, and you'll do the other thing. And he said, bob, I was in my early 70s. Then. He said, don't worry about the fight. I have a stuntman to do the fight. I said, oh, no, I came up here to win a fight. I didn't come up here to watch a stuntman win the fight. I said, I know how to fight. Let's fight. So I fought.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you say, let's fight, let's fight?

[Bob Barker]

I mean, because, you know, everybody gets that line wrong. One of you, when I first called, somebody said, the price is wrong or the price is right. That's not where I did the line. Adam did the line, the Price is Right. I. What I did, I said, you've had enough. And he started to get up again. I went back and I kicked him a few times. And then I walked away. I started walking away and I said, now you've had enough. And then I turned and said, so my line was actually, now you've had enough.

[Dan Le Batard]

Bob Varger with us on 790 again, he raises million.

[Bob Barker]

No matter how they do the line, though, they always manage to get.

[Dan Le Batard]

He raises millions of dollars to fund animal rescue.

[Bob Barker]

Listen, I don't raise millions of dollars. I spend millions of dollars. I finance that foundation myself, the DJ&T Foundation. I finance it myself. I never make pleas for contributions. I appreciate the, the plug for the foundation, but I don't want you to try to, to get money for me because I. I spend my own on it.

[Dan Le Batard]

DJT Foundation.org is where you go. DJT Foundation.org Bob Barker is with us on 790. The ticket is. Do you have like one moment, one moment above all others in your, in your career? That is the one that you say that's the most memorable moment in the history of the Price is Right.

[Bob Barker]

Well, I have. I. I'll tell you the most memorable moment, the Price is Right in a moment, but the most memorable moment in my career, my professional life, was December 21, 1956, at five minutes past 12 noon when Ralph Edwards, who owned and created Truth or Consequences called me and told me that I was to be the host. I'd gone through a series of auditions. I'd never done a national show. And Ralph called me. And with that one telephone call, he changed my life. And that was. That is, and that will always be the most important professional telephone call I've ever had. And some people say, well, if Ralph hadn't called, somebody else would have called. Maybe, maybe not. And so I'll never forget that call. Now, as far as the most memorable moment on the Price is Right, that's no problem at all. It was the lady in the tube top. You've probably heard the story. She was in the audience. She was wearing a tube top. Her name was called to Come on Down. She jumped to her feet, began jumping up and down, and both of them came out of the tube top. She came on down and they came on out, and no one ever forgot it.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know, you've got a good interview on your hands, dugouts. When you just gloss over the part about he trained with Chuck Norris. I mean, you trained with Chuck Norris?

[Bob Barker]

Chuck Norris, absolutely. Yes. I had Chuck on Truth or Consequences when he was fighting. He was a middleweight champion at the time, and he did an exhibition of karate. I'd never seen karate, let alone do it, but I was so impressed, I started taking lessons from him. And he used to come over here to my house and we'd work out and he'd have a shower and he'd go down not far from my home and take acting classes. There was an Actors Studio down there then at that time. I think they may still be there. And he and I trained together for eight years. And then he got into pictures and he set me up with Pat Johnson, who was a fighter on Chuck's team. So they both have beaten me up plenty of times over the years.

[Dan Le Batard]

Who knew that he was an ass kicker? Stugot, with that voice and that demeanor. Who would have known that Bob Barker is an ass kicker?

[Bob Barker]

Oh, my body is a deadly weapon.

[Dan Le Batard]

And, and.

[Bob Barker]

And killing me.

[Dan Le Batard]

And. And a ladies man too, by the way.

[Bob Barker]

Absolutely. I'm part Sioux Indian and Sioux. The Sioux were known as great warriors and great lovers.

[Stugotz]

Bob, your favorite Price is Right game has to be Plinko, right?

[Bob Barker]

Well, it was not necessarily my favorite, but it was certainly the most popular game on the show. I like that. I like the games that gave me a chance to interact with the contestant, to have fun with them, get laughs with them. Games like Triple Play and it's in the Bag and three Strikes and you could really. Or even. And Golden Road, you could really get them whipped up. I used to like to get the thing just rocking the whole studio and as much excitement as I could. And those were games that I could do it with.

[Stugotz]

Were you ever rooting for a contestant to lose?

[Bob Barker]

No, never. I was wanting to win Bob Barker.

[Dan Le Batard]

With us on 790. I want to get back to the ladies, man. Part of this you experienced because you're having fun with us. You experience. How did you experience? You know, you got into the tabloids a little bit because people couldn't imagine you. Your success with the Price is Right models. I think that that makes you one of my all time heroes. But what can you tell us about that?

[Bob Barker]

Well, I never mention it, frankly, because the women involved, two or three of them filed lawsuits primarily against the show. And one filed a sexual harassment suit against me. Was a complete lie. And I didn't. I have a book, Priceless Memories, and I don't make no reference to it because I wrote a happy book. And if you ever read it, I don't say one derogatory thing about anybody. The shows I've done, even the guest shots I've had. And that movie, that crazy movie, everything I've been in a part of has been happy. And I'm basically a happy guy. So I didn't want to go into that lawsuit.

[Dan Le Batard]

And you're a fighter, so we'll stay away from it.

[Bob Barker]

I am a fighter. That's right. 85 years old. When Chuck was doing his movies. By that time I was in my mid-70s. And I kept nagging him. I wanted to bring his picture and be the oldest ninja in the world. And he wouldn't do it. And of course I couldn't force him to or he'd beat me up.

[Dan Le Batard]

I can't tell. I want to hang out with Bob Barker. Like, I mean, I want to just hang out with this man. Bob Barker with us again. Check out the website. Djtfoundation.org A little surprised, given you're 85. We've had Joe Paterno on the show. Jerry Sloan says he doesn't have anything to do with computers. A little surprised that you're computer savvy at 85.

[Bob Barker]

I'm not computer savvy. I'm computer illiterate. And I'm gonna die that way. Okay, I'm, I'm. I don't fool that stuff. It would drive me nuts. I. I know how valuable it is. And I have friends who. They couldn't function without it. My Business manager. I call him and I'll ask him some remote thing. He says, just a minute, boom, boom, boom, boom. And he tells me exactly what it is. It. But it's, it's marvelous. The, the technical advances in recent years have just been incredible. And it's frightening to buy anything because apparently it's outdated within 15 minutes. But it's an exciting time, particularly for young people. Incidentally, young people really were great at the prices, right? They used to come, college groups would come from all over the country and they would get that studio rocking. They were great contestants, but they just, their reactions gave the show great energy. I had people who had been in television for years come in and they'd say, Bob, I've never been in a studio that had the energy that this one does. That's why it was so tough for me to quit. I had a great time. I really did.

[Dan Le Batard]

Was there any ethical boundary? I mean, can you, could you hit on a contestant if she was a hottie? I mean, you got the power, you got the microphone.

[Bob Barker]

I mean, no, they hit on me.

[Dan Le Batard]

Of course, that goes without saying, doesn't it? Bob Barker with us again.

[Bob Barker]

Dj, I'll tell you what. I learned one thing. Doing praise is right. You give a woman a car and you're going to get a kiss. It works every time.

[Dan Le Batard]

Life lessons from Bob Barker. Djtfoundation.org Check it out. You got involved with animal rights causes.

[Bob Barker]

How, Bob? Well, I'd always loved animals. I'd had animals and been around animals from the time I can remember. And it was about 40 years ago that I became involved in working with animal organizations. And as I did, I became aware of the terrible exploitation and mistreatment of animals. And I just felt compelled to try to help rectify the situation. And that's what I've been doing. And I'm known as the guru of spay neuter. And goodness knows I have concentrated on that, but I work on everything. Right now we're trying to get a poor elephant, Lucy, out of a miserable situation in Canada. We just got an elephant out of Anchorage, Alaska, Maggie, not long ago. We're trying to get Tina, Queenie and Jewel away from an unscrupulous animal trainer who's mistreating them. And I work on all kinds of projects.

[Dan Le Batard]

Djtfoundation.org, bob Barker. You have been a delight. Thank you so much for joining us.

[Bob Barker]

Well, it's been my pleasure. It has Indeed. Incidentally, the DJ&T foundation gets all the profits from my book, Priceless Memories. It's all going right straight to subsidized spay neuters for dogs all over the country.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you, Bob.

[Bob Barker]

Thank you, gentlemen.

[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don Le well, Charlie sent. Charlie had this. Charlie as far as I know. So just Charlie's title in my. You're gonna say anything.

[Stugotz]

Stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

How. How familiar were you at the time with Chewbacca? Like how your upbringing. How. How had. How much Chewbacca in it? This is the Dan Levatar show with the st. We enjoy having badasses on the show. This is a badass from the movies. We've been trying to get him on the show for the better part of six months since the Rocky 6 movie. Finally got him trapped in the corner. Got Apollo Creed trapped. Got Dylan from Predator trapped in the corner. Chubbs from Happy Gilmore. Carl Weathers is with us on 790, the Ticket. He's got a movie coming out, the Comebacks. It spoofs all sports movies. So let me start with a real hard question. How much, how much steroids were you guys using on the set of the Predator? You guys all got huge. Jesse Ventura, Arnold Schwarzenegger. So I start out with a tough sports radio question. You guys were packing on slathering the human growth hormone.

[Carl Weathers]

No, man. Come on. What a question, man. Clean. All clean, baby. All clean in the gym.

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys were huge.

[Carl Weathers]

All in the gym, man. Look, Arnold took a gym down there that literally any professional would be proud of. Got to a point where at 4:30 in the morning, guys are in the gym. It's still dark out. But all we had to do was walk out of our hotel rooms down to this big, big room he had down there that he converted into a gym. And so all you had to do was get in bed, work out and get in bed and work out, you know.

[Dan Le Batard]

So who was the strongest among you? The governor, the other governor. How did you failed? All these guys became governors and all you did was go on to do Happy Gilmore.

[Carl Weathers]

I know, it's. It's shameless, isn't it? But guess what? I'm coming to Miami. Guess who's going to be your new governor in Florida. Take a look. Take a look at my direction, baby. Yeah, I'm going For governor of Florida.

[Dan Le Batard]

We do need a big, black, badass governor in Florida.

[Carl Weathers]

Doesn't every state?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, we absolutely do. Carl Weathers with us on 790. The ticket. Top three lines. I want to do this in order. When you're walking through an airport, the top three lines, Carl Weathers gets shouted at him. Let's start with the third most often. The third most often line you get shouted at you.

[Carl Weathers]

The third most often would probably be, yo, Adrian. Don't ask me why they shout that at me, but somehow they love doing that.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's not right. That's not.

[Carl Weathers]

Hey, I didn't think so either. But what can I say, man? It's like they're confused.

[Dan Le Batard]

Number two.

[Carl Weathers]

Number two would be a Dylan. You put in too many pencils.

[Dan Le Batard]

But those aren't your lines.

[Carl Weathers]

I know, but you know what they remember? Carl Weathers is Dylan and Predator. So they're. They become Schwarzenegger. And they love saying, yo, Dylan, you're pushing too many pencils.

[Dan Le Batard]

You son of a bitch, Dylan.

[Carl Weathers]

You son of a bitch, Dylan.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Carl Weathers]

Yep. There's another one.

[Dan Le Batard]

What about number one?

[Carl Weathers]

Number one would be. Ain't gonna be no rematch. It's gonna be no rematch, right? Then they talk to themselves and say, don't want one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Best Rocky movie ever, Carl Weathers, best Rocky movie ever.

[Carl Weathers]

Hey, man, I guess it would have to be the very first one. It has to be number one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Carl Weathers with us on 790, the Ticket. Who's a guy in sports you look at and say, that guy's a badass. That guy is about the biggest badass in sports. You're a badass from the movies.

[Carl Weathers]

Wow. Well, there's so many. I mean, there really are so many great athletes out there. I personally am a huge fan of Kobe Bryant. You know, he gets a real bad rap. And I just think undeservedly so. Of course, down your way, you know, you gotta say, Shaq is a badass. I mean, you just got to. For all the controversy the statement will cause, I think Barry Bonds is the badass of all badasses.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, he is.

[Carl Weathers]

Yeah, he is, man.

[Bob Barker]

He.

[Carl Weathers]

Look, I don't care what people say that you've taken and put in your body. Guess what? That will not cause you to hit home runs, okay? Because there are a lot of guys who've taken a lot of stuff or who have taken nothing, and they still haven't been able to do it. That guy's been able to do. So the guy's a badass.

[Dan Le Batard]

Plus, you guys Were all slathered up in Predator, you guys.

[Stugotz]

Oh, yeah.

[Carl Weathers]

You want to go back there, don't you? Come on, baby. You want to take me on?

[Dan Le Batard]

Come on.

[Carl Weathers]

Let's get the ring, Carl. No.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't want any part of your steroid rage. Carl Weathers with us on 790, the ticket. The comebacks is the name of the movie. It's gonna spoof all sports movies. It sounds like a lot of fun. You get recognized most as Apollo Creed, right?

[Carl Weathers]

You know, it depends on where I am, because a lot of kids loved arrested development. Happy Gilmore. I mean, they just loved it. You know, they loved seeing the hand and the alligator taking the hand off and the whole thing. You know, it's all in the hips. It's all in the hips. But, of course, Rocky and Predator, those are just those kind of iconic macho movies. And so you can't. You know, people just love those movies, man. I've been real fortunate. Action Jackson. I mean, there have been so many movies that have done that. People have embraced. And here we are now with the comebacks of Freddy Wiseman. How mad and crazy this movie is.

[Bob Barker]

You.

[Carl Weathers]

You mentioned steroids over and over. Well, this is. This is Happy Gilmore on steroids. This is insane, this movie.

[Dan Le Batard]

Actors fear being typecast. Did you fear after Predator and Happy Gilmore, you would become the guy who always loses his arms in the movie?

[Carl Weathers]

No, no, not at all. I mean, you know what most actors fear is I'm never going to work again. That's the big fear. After you finish a movie.

[Bob Barker]

You.

[Carl Weathers]

You know, it's.

[Bob Barker]

It's.

[Carl Weathers]

It's like postpartum depression, man. You. You want to go back to work again, so trying to keep finding that next project that you really embrace and love and people are going to pay you to do and all that sort of stuff. That's what. That's what I get down about.

[Dan Le Batard]

How did your life change the most, Carl, after you made Rocky? What. What happened. What happened to your life the moment after you made Rocky?

[Carl Weathers]

I was in New York when the movie came out, and the day that the movie came out, I mean, literally walking around the streets of Manhattan that day. Nobody paid any attention to me, really. I was just another guy walking down the streets in Manhattan. And the morning after was a Saturday morning walking down the street in Manhattan. The vendors, the hot dog vendors, all those guys you see out there with the carts were yelling, yo, Apollo. That's shocking, you know, to have a movie have that kind of impact.

[Dan Le Batard]

Carl Weathers with us on 790. The Ticket the comebacks at spoof sports movies. Michael Irvin's in the movie. Did he steal scenes? I mean, he's got an enormous amount of charisma.

[Carl Weathers]

Michael actually didn't just steal scenes. He stole my script too. He's a thief. What can I say?

[Dan Le Batard]

But he, but he is. Did you get to know him at all? Does he have a big part in the movie?

[Carl Weathers]

It's not a big part, but you know, he's an engaging guy, a wonderful job and he's one of those guys who has the ability to sort of make fun of himself. I love that these guys don't take themselves too seriously.

[Dan Le Batard]

Speaking of not taking yourself seriously, how often do you hear it mentioned, if at all that, that slow motion scene where you and Rocky Balboa, Sylvester Stallone or are dancing in the ocean, you're wearing those tube socks way too high, that it's vaguely homoerotic.

[Carl Weathers]

You know what, it's a little frightening with those tight shorts on, isn't it? I'm frightened just thinking about it.

[Dan Le Batard]

So this is not the first time you've heard that allegation?

[Carl Weathers]

No. In fact, you know, we designed it because we were in love with each other.

[Stugotz]

You didn't hear that?

[Carl Weathers]

You never heard that?

[Stugotz]

No. That's.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're.

[Carl Weathers]

Well, you got, you got the man. You got it here. You, you've got the first, the first of any of this. I'm telling you and only you.

[Dan Le Batard]

You fell in love with Sylvester Stallone on the set of that movie. That happens so often in the movies where the co stars fall in love.

[Carl Weathers]

Telling you it was a love fest. It was a love fest. You know, it was the beginning of a beautiful relationship.

[Dan Le Batard]

So what is the movie you most enjoyed making in your entire career? What's the most fun you've ever had on a set?

[Carl Weathers]

You know, just kind of like, just, just macho, just goofball kind of stuff. Had to be Predator. I mean, you know, you're wearing what you're wearing every day. You're in your, your, your, your fatigues. You're in the jungle not worrying about makeup. You're sweating, you butch with a bunch of guys who are all pumped up and you're smoking cigars. How good does it get?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, that's pretty good. It's pretty good to be Carl Weathers the movie. It's gonna spoof sports movies. It's gonna be a lot of fun. It looks like a lot of fun. The name is the Comebacks. Carl Weathers in the middle of it, starring in the middle of it. Thank you, Carl, for being on with us.

[Carl Weathers]

Hey, such a pleasure.

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard football football football. Football, football, football.

[Stugotz]

St.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the d. Levatar show with the st gods. This is legitimately funny. I'm actually nervous.

[Stugotz]

Me too.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ed Guns, hockey, NFL referee. I'm not even making it up. Like, this is what happened to us with Chuck Norris. We had built up the interview for so long that by the time we did the interview, you and I were both nervous. We have created a mythical aura around Ed Guns Hockey League. We've been talking about this since we were having the conversation for some reason about whether or not you're surprised sometimes when guys you didn't expect to be yoked up were yoked up. Carrot Top, Roy Firestone, of course, Joe Piscopo, Peter Brady, and Ed Hockey came up in conversation. And Ed Hockey Lee is the world's buffest ref and he's going to join us now. And as I often do when I'm nervous, I'm just going to let Stugat ask the first question.

[Stugotz]

Ed Hockey was tracing the Tyrannosaurus Rex. The rex was not chasing.

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[Dan Le Batard]

What do you think of that, Ed?

[Ed]

What alternative reality have I walked into?

[Dan Le Batard]

Ed Oculy, a respected NFL referee and an attorney by trade. How did you get the nickname Guns? As we've mentioned before, you're huge, you're buff, you're muscular. How'd you get the nickname Guns?

[Ed]

I have no idea what you're talking about. In all seriousness, I kind of dated back to There was a game many years ago, and I think that there was absolutely nothing of interest going on in the game. And Phil Sims was looking for something to talk about. And in desperation, he circled my arms and he started talking about my arms. And it just seemed to catch on from there. I've never understood it, frankly.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now, would you prefer that the yellow flag be a 40 pound weight?

[Ed]

I tell you, man, sometimes it's hard enough to throw that thing. I need it lighter, not heavier.

[Dan Le Batard]

We've got a question from a listener here saying what percentage of NFL players does Ed think he can take in a fair fight? My guess is all the kickers and most of the DBs, maybe 20%.

[Ed]

I frankly have thought about, you know, quite often the players will joke with me about when I'm coming out for the team. And my honest response is that I'd get hurt in the hump. That's about as far as I'd make it. So I would. I would avoid even the kickers. I'm smart enough for that.

[Dan Le Batard]

This modesty is crap. Hockey Lee, we've built an. We've built a cathedral out of you. And this is nonsense. How much can you bench press, Ed? How much can you bench press?

[Ed]

You know, Dan, you're going to expect an answer to that. That I don't know an answer. The one thing that I have learned is I've gotten older and older and ancient now my joints can't handle heavy weight and I don't ever lift anything that I can't lift at least eight times. And so I'm doing reps of 10 in my workouts and I truly don't know what my maximum is, but I think people think I'm stronger than I am. I just don't go for heavy weights.

[Dan Le Batard]

We've got some callers here before you came on. Ed Guns Hockeyly joins us on 790 the Ticket. We're asking some playful questions like for example, do you wear shirts that are a little smaller than they need to be just to show off those guns?

[Ed]

Yeah, I've been, I've been asked if I shop at Kids Gap.

[Dan Le Batard]

So you, so you do wear them a little tighter than they need to be.

[Stugotz]

You order the small.

[Ed]

I steadfastly deny that I wear shirts that are the right size and so I'll stick with that one.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're just normal sized. It's just that you're that huge Porsche. Do you do push ups before you go out there to do to, to look a little more buff on all.

[Ed]

Tv during all TV timeouts? That's what I, I'm on the ground.

[Stugotz]

Pumping up every timeout.

[Dan Le Batard]

Every time.

[Ed]

That's right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now we have seen you, we saw, we were following you closely. Our entire audience was following you closely last year. And we have seen that you do a little, a little mitt, a little punch to your other hand before you do the first down. Come on, you're showing off there a little bit, Ed.

[Ed]

You know, that was a kind of a first down signal very early in my refereeing career. And I never refereed that position referee the white hat until I got to the NFL. But when I started doing it, one of the old retired referees says, Ed, you gotta get a little, put a little pizzazz in your first down signal. And so I started fooling around. Next thing I knew it was kind of that throwing action I do with both hands. And I do put a little bit of, a little bit of pizazz by popping my mid, I guess.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, that wacky Ed Hockey League putting some pizzazz in the referee's call. The referees would be a lot more likable, Ed, if they all put a little More pizzazz in their calls.

[Ed]

Well, I think we all just try to be our personality out there and.

[Bob Barker]

And maybe, maybe that's just me.

[Dan Le Batard]

True or false. When the Incredible Hulk gets angry, he turns into Ed Guns Hockey league.

[Stugotz]

Go ahead. All right, settle the big debate for us here. We talk about which call you like to make in order to show off the guns. So which call during an NFL game do you the guns off the most?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, hold on the way we need to do this because we need to build to crescendo here. We've been talking about this for months here and it's been an internal debate. So if you don't mind, Ed, let's go from the bottom up. Your third place favorite call to show off the guns. Your second place favorite call. And then with a dramatic flourish, with that hockey league pizzazz, you give us your first place muscular pose of referee calls. Third place at hockey league.

[Ed]

Obviously, I spent a lot of time thinking about this, you know, of course.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right.

[Ed]

And I do, I make my calls based on that decision about what's going to best show off my arm. So that, that's the, that's the key to long term success as a referee in the NFL. But be that as it may, we'll start with the drum roll. A number three would be unfortunate conduct because that's just simply sticking my arms to the side with no ability to flex whatsoever.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, that's the third place. Second place.

[Ed]

Number two would be a holding call, because in the holding call, at least I get to hold the arm at a 90 degree angle and flex that bicep, that little bicep a little bit. So that's number two. Number one. Number one would be roughing the passer because then I get to actually get some violence into it as I chop one hand and throw the arm down and really get a mean look on my face.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, wait a minute. I can't believe I've been proven wrong. What about the safety? What about the illegal batting and touching of the, of the ball?

[Ed]

Well, you know, that's a very good one too, actually. Illegal touching because then you get to flex. You do get to flex both arms, don't you?

[Bob Barker]

Yeah, in that, in that one.

[Ed]

But I, I'm sorry. You know, when you, when you referee that, those can be your favorite calls.

[Bob Barker]

But I've given you mine.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, I'm sorry. You're right. I've blasphemed against the guns. Ed, thank you for being so playful.

[Ed]

Oh, my pleasure. Thank you, guys. Take care.

[Bob Barker]

And now it's Time to play Douche or no Douche. Here's your host, Douche.

[Dan Le Batard]

Douche leing and pointing a finger simultaneously. Douche or no douche.

[Ed]

This game serious?

[Bob Barker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

The game. The game is serious. Yes. Is that douche or no douche?

[Bob Barker]

You're not gonna get me to say that live on the air no matter what.

[Dan Le Batard]

No. Okay, well, I think your quarterback played.

[Stugotz]

This game with us one time.

[Dan Le Batard]

Didn't Shaw play with. Yeah, Shaw played the game.

[Bob Barker]

How about that?

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, that's cool.

[Stugotz]

Or uncool. Let's do that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Cool or uncool? We'll play it that way.

[Ed]

And pointing your finger at the same time.

[Bob Barker]

If it's at a girl, it's cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, See, there you go. If. Okay. Well, there you go. Referring to the NBA as the association. Cool or not cool?

[Bob Barker]

Not cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ryan Gosling. Cool or not cool?

[Bob Barker]

I don't know who Ryan Gosling is.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not important. Updating a picture of what you're drinking. Cool or not cool?

[Ed]

Not cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

Describing something as epic. Cool or not cool?

[Bob Barker]

Not cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

Guy at a bar who yells free play after an offsides penalty. Cool or not cool?

[Ed]

Well, at least he knows the game.

[Bob Barker]

Semi cool.

[Stugotz]

I'm so uncool.

[Carl Weathers]

But yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Perfume sales. People who spray you in the mall. Cool or not cool.

[Bob Barker]

Extremely uncool.

[Dan Le Batard]

QB's who try to throw a pass over your head. Cool or not cool?

[Bob Barker]

Cool. Because that means I'm gonna knock it down the 10.

[Dan Le Batard]

Of course you are.

[Stugotz]

That's what you do, JJ.

[Dan Le Batard]

SWAT hates that. Name the team, the 10 teams that passed on you in the 2011 draft. Cool or not cool?

[Bob Barker]

Not cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

Roger Goodell. Cool or not cool?

[Bob Barker]

He's cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

You didn't mean it. Insincere. Insincere. Lies. Angry beast Monster. It was in. It was insincere.

[Bob Barker]

I haven't been fined yet this year, so he's cool.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jj, thank you for making time for us. We enjoyed it.

[Bob Barker]

You guys have a great day. Thanks for having me.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stugouts. You know that Jimmy Johnson once dared to put his hands on Jason Taylor?

[Stugotz]

Oh, come on. Come on.

[Bob Barker]

No, you didn't.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, I did. Come on, tell more, please. And it did not go over well. It did not. Go ahead and tell the story. Dictator Jimmy Johnson put his hands on you, man.

[Stugotz]

It did happen. It was. Got it. I love Jimmy. Okay, I'll frame the story for you.

[Dan Le Batard]

And he loves you. They love each other now.

[Stugotz]

But.

[Dan Le Batard]

And I've told you this before, Stu, guys don't put your Hands on the players.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, you don't do that. You don't. You can't touch each other during the game. We had him on the show last week and actually spoke to him for a few minutes off air. And he wants.

[Bob Barker]

I didn't ask him.

[Stugotz]

He wants to come on your radio show. He does. Jimmy Johnson.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, they love. They do love each other, but. Okay, that's enough context.

[Stugotz]

All right, so we're in Washington playing. Playing the Redskins. And I. I beat the. I. I beat the left tackle. I forget who it was. And I hit the quarterback kind of as he was. He threw the ball and I ran into him. I didn't knock him down. It was kind of one of those things where maybe I did. Yeah, I did knock him down. Sorry. I hit him as he was throwing it. So we're on the ground and we're kind of, you know, we'll kind of wrapped up a little bit. So I'm getting up and he's getting up, and he kind of, you know, I guess he thought I was using his body to get up, which I was not. I honestly was not. And he kind of gives me a shove or whatever, and it's a quarterback. I'm like, whatever, you know, size seven, back in his face or whatever. We get in a little pushing match. No flags were thrown or anything, but the ref came over and separated us. And, you know, I kind of got into an exchange of words with the quarterback. So Jimmy's mad about. Was on the hash closest to our bench. And Jimmy's over there yelling, and I wasn't paying much attention to him. But anyway, he takes me out of the game. He sends somebody in, get him out. So I'm coming the sideline. And it's one of those things where when you do something wrong or, you know, you're about to hear it, you always take the long route. So I kind of walk off the sideline away from where Jimmy is as he's breaking his way down.

[Dan Le Batard]

So, you know he's. He's coming for you.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, but it's like, do I sprint off the field and beat him to the bench, like. Or, you know, at some point we're going to intersect. So anyway, he gets to me and he's screaming and yelling and cussing and.

[Dan Le Batard]

What are you doing?

[Stugotz]

And it wasn't even a flag on the play. So he's yelling, and I'm like, I didn't do anything. He's pushed me. I, you know, whatever. Explain it to him. And he's trying to talk to Me, like. So he grabs me up by my jersey on my chest, grab me by my jersey with both hands, and I slapped his arms off me, and he tried to grab me again, and he's like, he missed. Then he grabbed again and grabbed a hold, and I slapped his arms off me again, and I kind of shoved him back to get away from me.

[Dan Le Batard]

I can't believe the cameras didn't catch that. If the cameras had caught that today, that would be an issue.

[Stugotz]

It'd be different nowadays. Yeah, this was back in the day and back in the 90s. So he's yelling and screaming, and I'm. You know, I may. May or may not have said something back. I can't remember, honestly, can't remember. And. And he yelled, your. You know, your bleep is done. Get there, you know, whatever. Get out of here. So I was done for the game. So I go over and sit down in the corner of the bench, and my D line coach, Carrie Cadet, walks over and says something, and I'm like, no, I'm going off about Jimmy. And he was wrong. He can't put his hands on me, and I'm a grown man and all these things. And then, like, 30 seconds later, I wanted to cry. I'm like, I'm out of the game. Jimmy's mad. He just told me he's gonna cut me, like, it's over. But I'm still. You know, I'm still a man, and there's still testosterone involved in this. And he put his hands on me. He's wrong. I'm not wrong. You know? And so. So the defensive series is over. Offense goes on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on a second. Does this story end with you being reinserted in the game?

[Stugotz]

Wait a second. So defense comes off the field, Offense goes on three and out. Whatever. Well, it's time for the defense to go back. But it was like a TV timeout or something. And I'm like, man, I'm not. You know, guys are like, dude, you know, you can't push the coach. You know, just let it go. Don't worry about it. So my D line coach was like, hey, just, you know, go talk to coach. We'll talk to Jimmy real quick. You know, we're gonna be on the field in two minutes. Go. Just go apologize. I don't even know if he said apologize, but just go. Just go make up with him. I'm like, no, he's wrong. Screw that. I'm right. Whatever. And the whole time I'm like, man, I might get cut. I can't Go back in the game. So I tried to do it where nobody was looking, but I walk up, I was like, coach, I'm sorry.

[Dan Le Batard]

Out of the side of your mind.

[Stugotz]

I didn't mean to push you on disrespect or whatever, and, you know, kind of just mumbled an apology. And he looked at me and he was still hot and still pissed off at me. He's looking, he's like, get your ass back in there. And I ran back in the game, like, did you apologize to him? Like, no, I didn't apologize.

[Dan Le Batard]

I would never apologize.

[Stugotz]

He knows he needs me in the game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Never put his hands on me. Never brought up again, by the way.

[Stugotz]

You know what? On a plane ride home, I thought it would come up. It didn't. And then Monday, you know, you're going in the building, you're going to have to talk to Jimmy. You're going to get someone back to the office. And it didn't happen. But I did. I did go up to him later. It may have been later Monday, after the meetings or whatever. I just said, hey, Coach, you know, I didn't mean any disrespect. You know, you just don't put your hands on me again. No, I didn't say that. You know, just in the heat of the battle or just, you know, I apologize. He's like, you know, he was. Don't worry about it. It was no big deal. But nowadays, oh, my goodness, it'd be blowing up.

[Dan Le Batard]

I can't even. Jason, I can't even imagine if that happened.

[Stugotz]

It'd be huge to day.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, just think about Belich.

[Stugotz]

It was Brady and his quarterback coach. No, but they were just yelling at each other.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's arguing. When have you seen. That's what I'm saying. When have you ever seen footage? Tell me. Give me an example.

[Stugotz]

I can't.

[Dan Le Batard]

When has anyone ever seen footage of a head coach with the fame and authority of Jimmy and a superstar like Jason knocking his hands off him, where there's physical contact between both parties?

[Stugotz]

Yeah. You don't see it. Yeah. You don't see it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I can't believe it happened.

[Stugotz]

We'd see it. That's the point. We'd see it over and over.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right, Right. I mean, and you would become a punk and a thug and you would.

[Stugotz]

Become a bad person.

[Dan Le Batard]

And the Jason Taylor foundation promotes thuggery Boarded up.

[Stugotz]

I mean, it's just. That's a classic example of how things don't need to be blown out of proportion. I mean, it was in the heat of the moment it happened, you know, it was kind of the two guys button heads. But when the game was over, it was. It was over.

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