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If it walked upright, not slithered across the floor on all fours, but if it walked on two legs, would the crust be at the bottom or the top? So we went to get Spice Adams who is here on behalf of Red Baron Pizza so that we can get some expertise on this subject. And we now welcome in the former NFL player. He's a comedian, he's a host, he's an entertain and we ask him the question what is your vote here? Thank you for joining us. Spice, what is your vote on how a piece of pizza walks? Is the crust at the top or at the bottom how it walks? If it had two legs, it's a Good question. We're painting an odd picture. It is a good question for you to ask. I appreciate that you interrogate me that way, but, yes, that is the question. I am asking you if it walked on ostensibly two legs like a human being. Has to be the weirdest question he's ever had to start an interview upright. You think, which. But it's why we're. On behalf of Red Baron Pizza. He is here as an expert. It's the reason we're having him. So answer the damn question. Spikes on the bottom. Everybody knows that. Duh. But what do you consider the bottom? The crust or the pointy end? The crust goes on the bottom. He's saying the pointy end. Yeah. Thank you. All right, so it's settled. Cool. I'm sorry that we frustrated you. I mean, that's how I would picture it. Walking. Yeah. Although humans slender point is at the top. We didn't discuss that. You know what? Put it on the pole. Well, you know, you don't. You know, you don't really do leg day. Put it on the poll at Lemon Tart Show. Is the bottom of the pizza the pointy end or the crust? Because I thought the crust was the bottom end of the pizza. That's how I was thinking. Do you eat it backwards? No, but I was. I was just pointing at the bottom. I was just. I get what you're saying, but I never considered it before this moment. Do you even eat pizza? Then y' all must argue all the time. It's an important conversation. You got to. I'm glad we're having it. I also wanted to talk some football with him, but before I do that, I wanted to talk a little bit about your ascent into entertainment. How did you get involved with Shaquille o'? Neal? Where and when did you know that you wanted to be something in entertainment beyond being a football player? Well, this entertainment has kind of been what I've been doing my whole life. You know, I don't have any brothers and sisters, so I always wanted to entertain people, so they always wanted to come back over to my house. And then by the time I turned 14, I've been this same size and height since I was 12. When I was 12, I was 290 pounds. And so I looked like a grown man. My mom took me to Little league practice, and they thought I was one of the coaches. They said, you know what? Just for fun, have them get on the scale. And then I was 290 at 12. So I've been. Right. Right. So when I turned 14. My mom made me play football, and I've been playing football ever since. But when I retired, I felt like, man, what am I gonna do now? And I just kind of gravitated towards entertainment because that's all I've been doing my whole life. So everything all worked out, and it's been. It's been a great ride, man. I had a lot of fun, but I like to shout out all my teammates, man, who dared me into doing it, man. They was like, man, go out there, man. We see how funny you are in the locker room. But nobody else really get a. So shout out to Earl Bennett. Shout out to Chris Harris. Cause they were. The main ones were like, man, you need to get on this social media stuff. You built for it. But all I wanted to do was play football and have my fingers look like this. Yeah, I was just noticing his fingers, Dan, how that happened. Yeah, they are. Well, no, no, no, wait a minute. I'm throwing up the west side, and I ain't even really doing this. Like, I'm not. Like, this is just how my fingers are just throwing. I can't put my fingers on a flat surface. They all just pop right up from grabbing. All these years, you say. You say, how did that happen, Zas? That is something that football players just laugh about, right? The dislocated finger, the idea that you would catch your finger between helmets. You guys are built differently than the rest of us. Right? You can't. You can't pull change out of a place. What are some of the things you can't do because of what football has done to your hands? Like get out of bed, maybe? Well, your hands just. I was just. I wasn't talking about the entirety of your body. I'm just talking about your. Your. Your hands. Because people don't understand what it takes to do what it is you do and what the sacrifice is. Yeah, this is just kind of what you signed up for, man. Like, that's how you can tell if somebody plays defensive line or not. You can just look at their fingers. But this is. This is. This is what you signed up for, man. And, you know, sometimes it's hard to put on gloves because all your fingers are. They're like. Have you seen Torrey Holt's fingers? Yeah, like, his fingers. It's a 99. They look like they got a mind of their own. Like, all his fingers look like they're getting lost. They can't be Brian Balding. Look like they're just doing, like, this, like, hard going different. I don't know how he put gloves on. His job is to catch footballs, and his pinky finger is a 90 degree angle. It's insane. It looks like Anthony Munoz fingers just like this. Oh, I thought Baldinger was the standard there in terms of weird fingers. I didn't think that wide receivers had that problem, though. I thought it was interior lineman more than wide receivers catching balls from Kurt Warner. Dana. That's how you know he catches. Those are Torrey Holt's hands. We're showing the audience Torrey Holt's hands right now. Those fingers are ridiculous, I'm telling you. They all look like they're getting lost. I want to ask you a handful of football questions about what you presently see happening in the league. When you see Ben Roethlisberger throwing out the idea that Mike Tomlin should leave the Steelers to go coach Penn State, your alma mater, your alma mater is in disarray because James Franklin has left and took the recruiting class with him. Yeah. Wow. I didn't. Roethlisberger said that? Yep. That's. You know, as much as I would love to see that, I love Terry Smith. I think they should just hire Terry Smith. I mean, he's played there. His dad played there. Like, he's a legacy. He understands everything there is to know about Penn State football. He's passionate about it, and he's took a team that was. They didn't know where they were going to go next. They were lost. He took a team that had someone take their leader from them, and he got them to get to a bowl game. He got them to get that fire again. He's speaking to these kids parents to let them know, like, hey, they're still in good hands, even though we fired Coach Franklin. But I'm here. So he has these players, like, in his corner, and they love him, and he has these guys on fire right now. So why not hire from within and hire someone who's. Who understands Penn State tradition? So I say keep. Keep Terry Smith spice. You're a very famous meme where you're in the yellow jacket, rubbing your hands together, you know, crooked fingers behind the tree. When did you realize, whoa, like, this is a really famous meme now? I knew it was famous when I saw what I was looking at. I was looking at a Red Baron pizza. This red bear this guy gets. You've been asked this question on this story before. This is bullshit. This is his segue into promoting this red beer. That's not true in any way. He's totally lying right now. Guess what? If Y' all into fantasy football league. Y' all could get this humble pie. Y' all can get this humble pie@redbarry.com humblepie between now and December 15, if you lose in fantasy football league, you ain't got to worry about sprinting a marathon and doing all that crazy stuff. Just eat you some humble pie, man. Got the red bear, Carolina reaper. Sa got the spicy mozzarella, ghost pepper cheese. It got cayenne pepper on the pepperoni, habanero jalapeno and habanero flakes all over the pizza. That's what I was looking at behind the tree like this. Seamless spikes. That is nonsense what you just did. You just turned on the promotional. The man's an entertainer again. You turned on. I didn't even notice. What'd he do? The promotional Red zone. I was telling you what's. I was just answering y' all questions. What are you talking about? I'm gonna get a humble pie. I don't even think that pizza was invented. Go to redbarry.com humblepie now in 15, you can do that. Get out of here. That pizza was not invented when you did that. Get out of here. I don't believe you. And when I say get out of here, I don't mean it sort of figuratively. I'm telling you. We have to wrap. You have to wrap. Tony, go. Get out of here. Everyone. You that lady. Tony, we gotta go. Get out of here. Who is that person talking to me? Yelling who? We gotta go. We gotta go. Tony. It's a heart out. Tony. Your real name is Tony. Take a bite of the pizza. Did you see what Spice just did to me? Spices. But he doesn't bring the whole thing down. That pizza does look good. Spice, we got a wrap. We heard you the first three times. The first three times. We got a rap. We got a rap. There's an urgency here. Get out of here. And Zoom. And the zoom. Spice has to go. Get Tony out of here. Everybody out of here. Tony, out of here. Rap, rap, rap. They call him the rapper. That was total, unequivocal bullshit. What just happened at the end that song? Wanted to ask him about the Great American Banking Show. Jeremy wanted some advice on how to be a game show host. That's all I want. He had to get his plug in. He knew he had a heart out. I didn't know he had a heart out. Tony didn't know he had a heart out. You really messed that one up, Tony. That woman just started screaming. It's a shame. I Could have talked to that guy forever. Our chemistry was incredible. How is it that that person ended up live on air with. I thought it was David Sampson, like a drop of David Samson. Say we got a rap, Tony. I was like, where is. They're on the Zoom listening, and then they mic themselves. I'm. That. That used to happen when we were on the radio. I used to get a phone call on the other guest line, like, yeah, I'm trying to. Sometimes it'll be on the air sometimes. Sometimes, yeah. Yeah. But how is it first time on Zoom? Okay, let me explain something to Red Baron and that lady. I don't like that lady. Your time constraints cannot be so 10 minutes that you're yelling at me in the middle of what it is we're talking about out here and saying, we gotta wrap Tony in the middle of the program that we're doing. Stop trying to break up with me. We broke up with you first. The tie goes to Dan. He said, get out of here. Well, before they said we got to wrap Tony. And the reason. I just figured it out. I know who Tony is. I figured it out. Spice. Adam's name is Anthony. Yes. Oh, my God. I mean, I cracked that code. Seymour Nolso. His name's Tony. Dan got by me. Thought he was talking to him. I'm still angry about what Tony did there. Where. Where Zaz asked a legitimate question about the meme, and he went straight into his promotion because he knew he had a minute left before Tony had a heart out. And that woman started yelling at everyone in our audience. Tony. Specifically me. I was like. I didn't even say anything. What do you want me to do? She wasn't talking to Harold. His name is Tony. A couple of Tonys coming up. We need to make sure that we talk to the good people at Red Baron and never let them do that again to us. I like Red Baron, Dan. Red Baron. A lot. It's a good frozen pie. Yeah, I don't know about that. The humble pie. The roast pepper sauce that make me chill. That was good for Red Baron, though. Like, that's. You were saying, Tony, that you like Red Baron, at least in part, because as. As it relates, pizza that's easy to make for yourself, it's extra doughy that you've got some. That it's not flimsy with its doughyness. It's you. You like it? No. But sometimes the Red Baron, they got the thin cut. I know. I like the thick. Oh, you like the thick. I like the thin cut. It's like a very. Like, not cracker, but very, like, very tough, very crispy. I like that. I like it thick with two Cs. We have to rap. How does that not sound like David Sampson? We have to rap. Well, it does sound like David Sampson, but it was a guy. I also thought it was an old woman, though. I'm. We have to rap. I feel good about that. Well, do you feel good about it being an old woman or an old man? Yeah, to me, that sounds like a woman. I think it's a man. Yeah, I think it's man. It's. It's an aggressive. I think we should stay in these waters. It's an aggressive. Wow. Look, it already got to awkward. We might as well stay here. It's a specialty of ours. I've got some random person yelling at Tony that we didn't know was his name. I've been referring. Referring to him as Spice the entire time. I didn't know he was Tony. I thought she was. He was yelling at Kaladiyud. And. And I didn't know where the voice came from. I also didn't know, as an added bonus, whether it was just in my ear or everybody was hearing it, like, because. Because I've got a bit of air traffic control system in my ear where I've got 17 different voices. And then you know what my reaction is and should never happen on our show. My reaction is, who the hell is that? You almost screamed at Lewis. I saw it. I felt like a Lewis mistake. I'm not gonna lie. When it was happening, I didn't know whether. Whether it was public. I didn't know whether it was this Tony. I didn't know the Spice was named Tony. I didn't know we were out of time. I didn't know there were time limits with Spice. Adam. Nobody informed me of anything. What is the great urgency was fights that he's got to get out of here after exactly nine minutes with such urgency that he crams in his promotion. And furthermore. And I don't like this part either. Turns on the energy the moment. It is time to just chill pizza, and I'll pull back the curtain. He was early. Yeah, he was 10 minutes early. This was a 10:30 Eastern hit. We have to rap. You have to rap. For who? Us. I would like to have a conversation with the people who gave us Spice Adams, in which I explained to them. And I'm gonna try and keep my hostility down. You didn't let me ask about the Great American Baking Show. You didn't tell Me that I had a limit on my time. You got him out after nine minutes. And the only thing that he did at the end that had energy was shill pizza. And that's bullshit. That Penn State answer, though, he was surprised by that. He was. I was. Breaking News Interim was 3 and 3. That's why we have to rap. Really rallied those troops. I feel good that that's an old woman. You're sure? Because I'm. I'm not. And put it on the poll as well. Does David Sampson sound like an old woman? Because we have to wrap. It does sound like David Sampson. I can't dispute we have to rap. I thought it was in my headset. We have to rap, Tony. And I'm listening. I'm like, okay, like, what do you want me to do about it? Like, Dan's doing the interview. Dan seems like he's pretty well on his way to kicking him out. I hear that. If I was listening to that interview right there, I would think that Tony was the point person. Hey, Jeremy. 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You guys tell me if you know what it is that's going on in the game. Their Job is to talk about the action in the game. But I think they are in this Lou Riddick chuckle fuck situation where the Pittsburgh Miami game was so bad that they end up at the end just doing Mike Ryan's propaganda because the game wasn't close and they just had to talk about other things. And a fine thing to talk about would be the debate, the sports debate around the university. These clippers broadcasters just get into some debate about some trivia question. We don't even have the trivia question. They're reacting to some previous trivia question and they go about three minutes, hardly even referencing the game at all. So I go back to that trivia question that you sprung on me. Ambushed is a better word. The trios in the na. I didn't have what was an ambush. So the whole premise of the question was way off. No, it was not. Verbat. No, no, no. You tell me. No, I'm not telling you me exactly what I asked you of family members. I didn't say what was the first. I didn't say that. The last. I didn't say that. Go ahead then, give me the question, cuz I'll tell you where it's off. Okay. Would it be Mr. Main Event? That was his nickname. Get it? I do get it. Why? Well, you could go one of two ways. Boxing had a main event. Also a little thing called the wwf. They're players will running back and forth that they're not the sneakers. That's what I'm saying. No, no, no. I just asked you. So give me the question. I'm not. See, that's what I'm waiting. Give me the question. I forgot is your premise is inaccurate and that's the whole reason that it threw off my equilibrium. So you just can't say you didn't know you were wrong. Ask me the question. I didn't. I don't know how I asked it. Just give me the. Give me the topic. It was a trio of a trio, right? Family members. Family members at. Yeah, three. I said three. And that's why the whole thing is erroneous. What flag controls. I'm going to let you marinate in this for just a moment. So you said trio and you kept going duo. You kept going duo. No, no, you kept. You kept. I said. I said. Because the answer isn't the fair. You have Rick Barry, John Barry, our favorite Barry, Brent Barry, and then the same team, the youngest brother, Drew Barry. I said same team. So that's why it was the man. That's why. Completely. No, no, no, you didn't miss. I said they played for the same team. Christy in the court for three. That's the first game, actually. You see what I'm saying? That's what threw you off because you had duos, but you didn't y. For the same team. Just admit it, man. It's okay. So I'mma put a button on this. You were going to say the four Bears that played in the league. Right. I asked you specifically on the same. For the same team or franchise. I mean, maybe we got the tape. Maybe we're not going to roll it. So remember that when what. One of your boys has something and they use it for Monday. Do we put a button on things? Why is there a button? I don't think we do. We put a bow on it. Put a pin in it. Is it a pit? So he said. But he did say, I'm going to put a button on this. Maybe just a button. You put a bow. When you're done with it, you put a pin. If you're, like, not done yet, you got to go back to a pin is. I want to continue. That's also when you send someone your location. He meant bow. So a pin is like a bookmark. Putting a pin in it is something you come back to. Putting a bow on it is something that's finished. But what happens when you put a button on it? He meant bo. Okay, close it. So, but is there not a button put on it? There's not. It's just he might have meant bo. I don't know what he meant because they described no part of the game. I'm hoping that that was radio. I think there were like nine, three pointers made while they were tv. To put a button on it comes from the theater world where it means to add a final touch to a scene or provide closure, a sense of completion. It's been used since at least the 1930s. I don't believe it. Okay, but that doesn't really explain, like, while I know what it means to put a button on something and he. He did use it correctly. So on brand for Jeremy with that correction. Well, it wasn't correction he was trying to add, but all he did was explain something I already knew. I want to know why the button was put on it. So is the button the last thing that gets put on a costume? Is it the final. I'm on it. Yeah. I just was curious about that. Thank you. I appreciate you moving us off of that. We got a wrap. We got a wrap. Dan. We got a rap. We were going to stay on that sound longer than they bickered. We got a wrap. Rap. Tony, we got a wrap. Like, what the hell did I do? I am going. We have to wrap. I want you guys. I want you guys to get for me, okay? Everyone involved with marketing at Red Baron Pizza so that I can have a conversation with them after the show to explain to me how it is that they thought that that was the way to handle. We have to rap. It's a live show. Let me just go on the intercom here and tell someone named Tony, which we learned was spice. It's time to wrap up. Bothers me. I hate that we are getting to the bucket here, the Dentek bucket. I will remind everybody to put their mouthpieces in and I will remind everybody listening to this that if you have any headaches in the morning, if you do not know that you are grinding your teeth while you sleep at night, Dentek is a way to alleviate that. I know this because it was happening to me and I was able to get some headaches out of my life that I didn't even know were happening because I was grinding my teeth. That's right. Dan the Bucket is presented by Dentek's ultimate fantasy football punishment. Learn more and sign your league up@dentech.com Jeremy, what did you pick there? So I never thought that I would have a team playing the Cleveland Browns that I want to put back, but this is the Titans, so I'm putting it back. We have to wrap. They are four and a half point under dog at Cleveland. By the way. One of the helmets or some of the helmets that you'd like. Carolina. The Giants, New England and San Francisco are on a buy. You pick the Colts. The Colts are the Colts after the jags. They're a 2 1/2 point favorite at Cleveland. Jags are frisky. Dan, the Jags, Colts favorite on the road. The money does not believe in the Jags because they continue to be underdogs in games at home even though they've got an 8 and 4 record. You know the Colts haven't won any Jacksonville since 2014. I did not know that. You know who the quarterbacks were? Andrew Luck and Chad Henney. I know Spirodish was there for it. We have to wrap. New York Giants. That sounds bad. I think they're on a buy. Ooh, yeah. Dan said they're on a buy. Giants got a buy. Congratulations. He didn't win that back. No one is happy for you. Here we go. Here we go. Let's see what I got here. I got the Dallas Cowboys tonight in a game that is a live or die game on Thursday Night Football. It's a do or die game. Daniel. I don't know. They are a three and a half point dog against Detroit. Look at their schedule, by the way. This is their last hard game. And furthermore, they have the potential to win out and not make the playoffs. Yeah. The thing is, if Detroit loses, I think they're on a similar path where they're out of the playoffs too. So it's like, can Dallas win and maybe get some help to go to the lake? Or is Detroit gonna lose and get out of playoffs? I'm gonna. I'm gonna put that one back. Two higher stakes. A three and a half point dog got two higher stakes in that game. I got them again. So it doesn't matter. We got a wrap. We got a wrap. I don't think that we're supposed to. This has happened to me a couple times. I think we're supposed to take that helmet out and keep it out. No, I don't think that's why you put it back for that possibility. We've only done this for 10 years. I got the Eagle. They are at. They're at the Chargers. And they're a three and a half point favorite at the Chargers. Justin Herbert had surgery on his non throwing hand. He's gonna play in the games right now. Why are you doing the Steph Curry mouth guard? Put that shit in your mouth. Packers. The packers are big game against the Bears, Dan. Oh, that is a big game. Okay. Bigger favorite. I'll take it. So the packers and the Bears play a meaningful game. Man, it's been a long time then since both of these teams were good at the same time. Six and a half points is a big line. Maybe since Smokin J. So the Bears are. I had the Cardinals. I don't even have to look. I'm throwing that back. Okay, you're not looking even. And the Cardinals are at home against the Rams and they're eight and a half points. I got the Rams and the Rams. That's much better. Remember that Caleb Haney playoff game? I do not remember that. Packers packers barrage Caleb Painey came the Titans. I know. I don't want that at the Browns. The Panthers have a buy. So they're playing good ball too. Dan. Their season is over. I've been saying that since they beat the Dolphins. They beat the Dolphins and I proclaimed their season over. And the Carolina Panthers are now 7 and 6. They have a chance to win the division. That's the only way to do it right. They're not going to get into the playoffs. The disparity between the AFC and the NFC is something to behold. The 49ers are what, right now at 9 and 4? They are a 5 seed or a 6 seed. What are where are they? They're third in their own division. 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This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stuga. The 49ers are 9 and 4 they have done what they always do, no matter how injured they are. They're the seventh seed. They're hanging on. Okay, so they're the seven seed at nine and four, while the Bengals at four and eight have a chance to get in the playoffs in the AFC if they win their division. The only way for Carolina to actually make the playoffs. And the reason I keep saying their season is over is because that team does not have a legitimate chance to do anything if they get into the playoffs. No, no team from that division does, including the Bucks. But why? Where are we on the idea of the Carolina Panthers chasing down the Bucs? I see a lot of people on television these days looking at schedules. The Colts schedule is an apocalypse the rest of the way. They've got too many difficult games. Panthers beat the Rams last week, the best team in football. They beat the best team in football last week. All right, look. Yes, they did. And they've played well at home. And they beat the Falcons 30 to nothing at home. They beat the Rams, though, because the Rams had three turnovers. And that's not a team that ever turns the ball over. You hadn't had. You hadn't had Matthew Stafford throw an interception in 10 weeks. So no credit to them for forcing them to look like that. They forced turnovers. I believe that turnovers are largely lucky. There are some instances. For example, the jets have been bad this year, at least in part, because before last week I think they'd caused one turnover. But I don't. I don't actually think the causing of turnovers is an ability. You go ahead and look at. For example, go ahead and help me this year with the randomness of football turnovers, given that I thought that the jets and the Steelers were going to have good defenses this year because they had good defenses last year. But I don't actually believe that unless you have a pass rush, like, unless you have what they have in Denver. I don't believe that turnovers are a recreatable thing. For example, that Chiefs Dallas game. The Chiefs Dallas game that got decided with the Cowboys winning. You tell me whether you think the turnover, the fumble at the end of the game that the Cowboys did not actually lose. You think that that's an ability, what Turpin did there? Well, I. Carolina's top 10 in turnovers. But yes, I think that you force turnovers. I think you prepare for weeks on end for an opponent, you see something in film and you execute a game plan. I do think, yeah, there's sometimes a ball slips out of a Hand. But that's not what happened against the LA Rams. They forced those turnovers. They played really well. Or you're playing against that Lamb man. You know about that Lamb man? Yo, stop asking me if I know about that Lamb man. So let's examine this for a second because I do believe there is a large element of luck with forced turnovers everywhere except where it regards pass rush. Because if you have pass rush that you can get, that is a disruption, that is something that can be forced upon the other team. It can also make your secondary a great deal better because if you have pass rush, we all know what that is. But I am not that impressed with Carolina's pass rush. They were good against the Rams. I thought Stafford had a bad game, and I don't think that Carolina forced that upon him. And the rams still scored 28 points in the game. The thing is about NFL, like, it's a weird game. The ball is weird. Weird things happen. It was just one of those games for the Rams. Like, things didn't click and they had all their pieces there and it just didn't happen. I mean, it is what it is. You're kind of, in a roundabout way talking about what's happening with the College Football Playoff. You're just projecting assumptions and macro data points. When they played a game on the field and their pass rush was effective and they forced turnovers in that game. And that's why we have competitive athletics. They also won at Green Bay. So when you talk about, like only being good at home, they did win on the road at a team that's going to to be pretty high up in, in the playoffs. And the thing that you bank on if you're the Panthers is the same thing that you're banking on actually, if you're the Bears, which is we have not one, but two different running backs we can go to. The reason they beat the Rams is because they ran the ball. What? They ran the ball 40 times, five times with Bryce Young, but 17 carries for Chuba Hubbard, 18 carries for Rico Dowdle. And when you can con control the possessions that way and not turn the ball over, you have a chance to turn out on the other side of the turnover margin. On the other side of the coin, though, they lost the Bills 49. And they lost the Patriots 42. 13. So it's like, where are you in the hierarchy of are you a good team, are you a bad team? If you create turnovers and you can run the ball okay, you're a little bit better. But then when you Have a team that plays really good offense, you kind of suck. They're an execution team and they're lining up against these teams with a talent disparity. And yes, it's about limiting the opponent's possessions because the more possessions they get, the more likely they are to score a point. So you try to control the game and you stick to a game plan. Again, this is why we play the games. They have a couple of games against the Bucs in the last five games that will end up deciding that division. But I do think when we talk about the analysis around some of this, I'd like to explore this with you guys. Okay? Small samples, right? 13 games played, you're seven and six. We all know that all the football games are closed. Go look at Arizona's schedule and how many games they've lost by 1, 2, 3 or 4 points. Just go look at Arizona. And if you think one score winning is an ability, you explain to me why the Chiefs were great at it last year and are terrible at it this year when we all know that the Chiefs are great. We've seen over the last few years they are consistently great. So I believe that part of the problem that happens with football analysis is you get small samples, you get a whole lot of randomness and you get what I'm talking about with forced turnovers which are not recreatable. Like I don't think of A team causes 16 turnovers this year, returns all its starters on defense next year that they then can create 16 turnovers again next year. It was Dallas a couple of years ago where they had this incredible defense and had like 30 different turnovers throughout the season. The next year they returned basically all of their starters except maybe a couple and then we're a laughingstock. Defense Cardinals have lost seven games by four points or less. I don't disagree with what Dan is saying about one score games and them being a trait. But if you look at the teams that they've lost one score games to, they're all excellent teams. And late game execution usually comes down to who can execute better, who's more talented. And if you compare that to last. The problem why everyone was saying look out for these Chiefs, they might be inflated is they were doing those one score games and those getting those dubs against teams that were inferior to them this year, not. Not the case. You're right in a way. But when you say late game execution matters, there's no team in the sport that I trust more with late game execution right now than the Rams than The Rams. And what happened at the end of that game is, oh, look, Stafford's fumbling because he didn't see that coming from the. From the blind side. And that never happens to them. Yeah, it's a great, great sport. It's also a random sport. Yeah, there's some randomness to it. We've talked about how the ball isn't round. Like sometimes there is randomness, sometimes there's a bad call. But there's also days and weeks and months of preparation for an opponent on how do you strategize to stop somebody. It's awesome. It is awesome. And you can increase some probabilities, but turnovers are super random. And if you don't think the defense is recreatable from one year to the next, if you return all your starters, I don't know how you would think that turnovers are recreatable from one year to the next. When you need guys to fumble yet like you need. You need to punch the ball correctly in order to get a fumble. You can prepare, you can try, but it you are ignoring that the other team is also preparing to not fumble. Forced turnovers, historically not something that carries over year after year. Teams can get hot. There is randomness at play. But. But I'm not in the headquarters of the Carolina Panthers, but I'd imagine the majority of those first four turnovers were the byproduct of preparation and execution. So you say this, and I know we want to talk about preparation and execution, but Michael Jackson, the guy who had the pick six, is also the guy who allowed the Puka Nakua catch. How do you prepare for that? Puka Nakua? You can't. But that. But how do you. How do you prepare for. I'm going to throw it at Puka's right wrist and he's going to catch it with the back of his right wrist. Like what, what are you. What, what are you preparing for? I mean, he, he executed. It's just Puka executed better. I mean, it was great. Great D better. Oh, Dan, you know that saying, great D better. O Yes, I know that saying, but I am simply maintaining that I don't believe that in many instances that turnovers are a thing that you can prepare for and execut execute. Unless you're playing against Max Brosmer or Bromer or whatever. Whatever. Whatever his name is, we never speak it again. So they Seattle prepared for Brosmer panicking, getting caught by the arm and simply flipping it straight to a Seattle Seahawk? No, but they prepared for a first start. Quarterback and hey, let's throw hell out of him, Adam, and see how he reacts. And that's how he reacted. Poorly. Not a good reaction. You're. You're dead set on believing that there is some outfit out there that can create a great many fumbles. You're outside of pass rush, outside of pass rush, which is quarterback strip sacks and all that stuff where you're just getting to the quarterback. You believe there's another scenario where I'm not going to discount it as all random. No, I think that there are teams that are coach this. I'm not discounting it as all random, but I think there's a lot of random in it. We have to wrap. Tony, what does Zyn give you? Not just smoke free nicotine satisfaction, but real freedom. Freedom to do what you love and choose your rewards. 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