Did U.S. Soccer's Hope Die Last Night? | Local Hour

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show - "Did U.S. Soccer's Hope Die Last Night? | Local Hour"

Date: July 7, 2026
Location: Live from the Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Episode Overview

This Local Hour episode, recorded live in Miami during the morning after the U.S. Men’s National Soccer Team’s (USMNT) disappointing World Cup exit, revolves around the fallout from Team USA’s defeat against Belgium. Dan, Stugotz, Greg Cody, Tony, and the crew dissect the game, American soccer's stagnation, perceptions of hope and progress, and the mounting pressure on players like Pulisic. The show is also peppered with signature banter about journalism, Miami Heat jersey mishaps, LeBron James speculation, and uniquely South Florida sports quirks.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Greg Cody’s World Cup Viewing Experience

• [01:24]–[02:31]
  Dan describes sending Chris Cody to observe Greg watching the game. What was anticipated as a patriotic, beer-soaked viewing party instead looked "broken," "sad," and "haunting"—Greg slumped in a poorly lit, wood-paneled room from the ‘80s.

  • Dan (02:17): “There was no picture patriotism in that room.”
  • Louis (02:31): “It looked a bit like solitary confinement.”

• Greg defends his home team passion, admitting “I cheer unabashedly... for the US Team” ([02:37]), and endures the crew’s ribbing about his loss of journalistic impartiality.

  • Tony (02:52): “It is honestly embarrassing how all his journalistic integrity goes out the door.”

2. USMNT’s Loss to Belgium: Game Reactions

• [09:04]–[16:29]
  The game is recapped as not just a loss, but a deflating, hope-extinguishing defeat with zero silver lining or drama.

  • Dan (09:27): “If you’re going to lose, I would have preferred some drama… Not a waste of our time.”
  • Dan (10:13): “Their problem is they don’t have a star. ...You keep selling me Pulisic, but he turned the ball over 11 times …”
  • U.S. is “one in six in the round of 16, ...zero goals or one goal in every loss. They can’t score.”

• Greg and Stugotz push back on whether reaching the round of 16 is “success”:

  • Greg (11:13): “You overreacted… getting beyond the round of 16 would have made it a success.”

  • Stugotz (12:58): “It’s a massive disappointment… They got the great draw as hosts … didn’t even advance past where they routinely get to, and this time they got their shit kicked in.”

  • Stugotz (14:37): “US was awful. Holy shit. We were the worst team in the World Cup in the first half...They get no chances. They get no shots. Two total shots. ”

3. Pulisic & U.S. Soccer’s “Star Problem”

• [15:54]–[20:09]
  Multiple references to Pulisic’s anonymous performance and the US lacking a true world-class player. The crew draws comparisons to Mbappé, Messi, Kane, etc.
  • Dan (19:39): “They’ve been telling us since he’s 19 that he is hope of American soccer. And it went and died on the field last night in a way that got bullied.”
  • Pulisic: Only 17 touches, lost possession 11 times, “an abysmal game” ([15:49] Greg; [15:54] Dan).

4. The Illusion of Progress – American Soccer’s Stagnation

• [21:33]–[23:54]
  The show revisits the recurring debate: Does each World Cup cycle really move U.S. soccer forward?

  • Stugotz (21:33): “Have we not been having this exact same conversation for years now? ...Is this the World Cup that takes soccer to the next level... every four years.”

  • Tony (21:54): “I think we’ve reached the top of our current level... have not reached the next one yet.”

  • Attempts to “rank” U.S. among world powers—multiple jokes about how many “levels” there are, settling on “in the middle,” lacking a true star to move up to the elites ([23:00] onward).

5. Banter: Heat Jersey Debacle & LeBron Speculation

• [24:12]–[28:39]
  The crew takes a detour as Greg is “on call” for a LeBron free agency column, joking that the show will bug him while he writes if news breaks.
  Meanwhile, an unrelated debate ensues about Miami Heat jersey numbers after mistakes printing “Antetokounmpo #34” instead of #7.
  • Possible collector’s item? “I would rather have the 34 than the 7 because it’s funny.” ([34:52] Dan)
  • Stugotz (35:33): “You want a jersey that’s not real.”
  • Greg (36:37): “Proudly. It’s a collector’s item.”

6. Nationalistic Sports Fandom: “If you aren’t rooting for USA, you’re a traitor”

• [43:09]–[46:19]
  The team reacts to RG3’s viral tweet:

  “If you are a US Citizen and you aren’t rooting for the USA against Belgium, you are a traitor. No other way to put it.”

  • Stugotz (43:31): “I despise being on the same side as Robert Griffin III. But I agree.”
  • Dan pushes back: what about immigrants who keep ties to their homelands?
  • Greg (45:12): “No, I was rooting for the United States because you know why? I live in America and I get to decide.”
  • Greg (44:30): “Everything about forcing Balogun to play, it was a stain on the whole World Cup… US becomes the bully that failed.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Greg Cody on his USMNT fandom:
  “Le Batard always says I’m a homer. I am a homer. When it comes to the US Teams… I cheer unabashedly and admittedly.” ([02:37])
• Dan summarizes US Soccer’s place:
  “They are in the college football rankings—others receiving votes in the world.” ([10:13])
• Stugotz on the result:
  “This time, they got their shit kicked in.” ([12:58])
• Dan’s deadpan about hope:
  “They’ve been telling us since he’s 19 that he is hope of American soccer. And it went and died on the field last night…” ([19:39])
• On the “collector’s item” Heat jersey:
  • Dan (34:52): “I would rather have the 34 than the 7 because it’s funny.”
  • Greg (36:37): “Proudly. It’s a collector’s item.”
• Greg, on RG3’s “traitor” tweet:
  “Anybody who agrees with him, sorry, is also ridiculous. I demote him to RG1 because of his comments.” ([45:08])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:17] — Greg Cody’s viewing experience and the “patriotism” debate
• [09:27] — Dan’s rant on USMNT’s lack of a star
• [11:13] — Was reaching round of 16 a "success" or just average?
• [15:49] — Statistical evisceration of Pulisic’s game
• [19:39] — Pulisic as “hope” that died; US lacking a world-class star
• [21:33] — “Next level” arguments for US soccer
• [24:12]–[28:39] — LeBron speculation and Heat jersey fiasco
• [34:52] — Jersey collector’s item jokes
• [43:09]–[45:12] — National allegiance in fandom and RG3 controversy
• [45:34] — Greg’s take on Americans with dual allegiances

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Episode Tone and Style

Comedic, critical, and conversational—trademark Dan Le Batard Show. The panel balances self-deprecation, Miami-centric references, and satirical takes on sports, spotlighting the mix of hope, delusion, and disappointment endemic to American soccer fandom.

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Conclusion

The episode frames the USMNT’s World Cup exit as a “hope died last night” moment—less a tragedy, more a well-trod cycle of inflated expectations giving way to familiar disappointment and self-examination. The hosts, true to form, blend incisive sports talk with sidebars on Miami sports minutiae, soccer’s uphill cultural battle, and the meaning of fandom in a country still trying (and failing) to join soccer’s elite.

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• Insightful, irreverent soccer talk
• Sharp critiques of American sports delusions
• Miami sports inside jokes
• Fun tangents about journalism, jerseys, and the cult of patriotism

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Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard]

18szasz I sent Chris Cody with one assignment last night to his father's house to record wherever it is the debauchery headed. And what I got this morning in terms of video and pictures was somewhere on the spectrum between sad and haunting. He looked broken. Just the physical. The performance that you would want from a performer was nowhere to be found as he just sat slumped in his chair in in a dark room. In a dark room that looked like it had paneling instead of walls. And it's because he hasn't refurbished some of the things in his home since the last time I was there in 1989. And so the room was not well,

[Louis]

it was not well lit.

[Dan Le Batard]

So we will get some of those photographs. But I expected to see someone who was hopped up on half a dozen beers getting started before the game. And instead it was just from the very beginning. There was no picture patriotism in that room.

[Louis]

It looked a bit like solitary confinement.

[Stugotz]

Like you, you're. You take it that serious? The US National Team?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, that's my home team. That's it. Levitard always says I'm a homer. I am a homer. When it comes to the US Teams, whether it's in the Olympic hockey final, whether it's last night's game. Yes, I cheer unabashedly and admittedly, I cheer for the US Team.

[Tony]

It is honestly embarrassing how all his journalistic integrity goes out the door. Every single foul is, again, is. Should be in favor of the US Every call that's against them is a bad call. Like, I'm sitting there like, oh, that was actually a decent call. Like, I can. I'm rooting as hard as he is for the US But I can sit there and say, okay, this or that was a good or bad call. He is just like, bull crap call. Like, you should.

[Stugotz]

Is that cheater?

[Greg Cody]

No, the cheater.

[Tony]

He, like, anytime there's like, a foul against Belgium, he's just like, look at that. Cheater.

[Greg Cody]

You yell cheater in that one instance. I did. But I can also be cra. When Matt. When go keeper Matt Fries made that boner of a play to have us go down three one every all hope collapsed. That was a play I might make as a backup goalkeeper on a college club team in 1979. To see that in a World cup is absolutely embarrassing.

[Stugotz]

But why. Why do you have this type of passion, unabashed passion for the USMNT and, like, not for the Miami heats or not for the Miami Dolphins or the Florida Panthers?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. Because those are the home teams. I need to be impartial, and I am impartial. Like, I don't. When I'm covering a Dolphin game in the stadium.

[Dan Le Batard]

You are not impartial.

[Greg Cody]

I am totally impartial.

[Dan Le Batard]

You are not totally impartial. You are totally not impartial.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. I don't separate myself from my background, which is one of my strengths. I grew up down here. I was at the first Dolphin game ever.

[Stugotz]

Where would that rank as far as your strengths go?

[Greg Cody]

You know, maybe low top 10.

[Louis]

Really?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. Low top 10.

[Louis]

Now, is it a real top 10 or is it a top 10? If you start thinking about it, it's going to be 70 long, and then it's not going to be in the top 10.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, it could be a top 25, but no, I was embarrassed. And when you say there was no patriotism in that room, that's ridiculous, because I think even Christopher got a photo. I had flags. I had red, white, and blue all over the place.

[Dan Le Batard]

Would you do me a favor, please?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can you write down your top five strengths? I'd like to do that. I'd like to go over that during the course of the. I'd like to unveil that here as we start the show. If you can just put that together during this open.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, I didn't.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're going to the open now.

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[Dan Le Batard]

You are listening to the Dan Lebatar show in partnership with the DraftKings Sports App now live in all 50 states. Greg Cody is very busy right now and will be out of the show here for a few seconds as he hurriedly makes a list of his top five strengths. Chris, what do you believe to be any of your father's strengths? Like, what do you think is going to be on his list? Because he's working very diligently on that. And also we have a Greg Cody superfan who has listened to all the episodes of the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody podcast. And that person has ranked the top six Greg Cody episodes of all time and the bottom six Greg Cody episodes of all time. So I look forward to getting to that list, but not as much. He looks forward to getting to it because he is the king of narcissism. If, if he had a land, it would be called narcissism.

[Tony]

He just took. I was going to say that's definitely one of his strengths, narcissism. If we're being serious, I'd say he'd say cooking is something.

[Greg Cody]

Didn't make my top five.

[Dan Le Batard]

Writing. I imagine writing would be one of. One of his strengths.

[Louis]

Is.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is your list complete? Oh, wow. Okay.

[Greg Cody]

All right. You know, I didn't curate it. I mean, I didn't really give it much thought. It's sort of an off the top of the head thing.

[Tony]

And speaking of writing, he did tell me before the show d, if a certain NBA player were to sign in Miami during the show today or tomorrow, he's going to have to get up right away and go write a column about it.

[Greg Cody]

Correct. So I'm on call for a LeBron column. No matter his decision, whenever, if it's made while I'm on this air, I need to make the column my priority for about 30 minutes or 45.

[Stugotz]

OK. But if you're on call for whether he decides Miami or not, why don't you just start writing the column?

[Greg Cody]

It's, it's. There's background written. I mean, it's. We, we used to call it a matter. Sure. When you're on deadline with a column or, or you know what the subject is ahead of time, obviously you, you start writing certain things that are going to be in the column.

[Ian]

Greg, you're on call alone.

[Greg Cody]

Yes. Thank you.

[Tony]

We will do the bit that we did last time. If that happens. Where we'll set you up in the green screen room and we will just bug you throughout the entire time you're writing.

[Jeremy]

He just got to say that without getting out of here.

[Greg Cody]

That was excellent.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, it's not a bit. And yo, no, he's not allowed to say that. And yeah,

[Tony]

minor penalty.

[Dan Le Batard]

Two minutes for explaining.

[Greg Cody]

You know what? That was the line of the day, Tony saying, if LeBron makes a decision, I am on call. That was excellent.

[Dan Le Batard]

The penalty's not for you, Tony. The penalty for explaining the show is on. Chris Cody for saying that there was a bit in the other room. He gets a loser game show sound for that joke. It's not a good joke, but you don't get penalized and sent to the other room. Harsh. Chris was taking pictures. He was doing production work late at night, but came back with nothing. And like, this isn't acceptable, you guys all the time. As producers get sent out into the wild. I'm still mad at amin and Sean McGill for spending a bunch of money in New York and coming back with 80 seconds of footage and could get no Internet while they were there. Like, just wasted the company's money.

[Louis]

The two of them.

[Ian]

Better than meet when me and Amin went to Cleveland and got nothing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Barely. Barely better. But yes, yes, Amin leads the leads Meadowlark in going and spending money and coming back with nothing. No one does that better than Amin.

[Louis]

That's his corner.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's got that locked down. So let's look at a picture of Greg Cody back in happier times. This is just before, just before the game started.

[Louis]

You can see light radiance. You can see on his face. He is ready to go.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's six or seven beers in, I'm guessing. But now, very soon thereafter, and we will talk about this at length, I suspect, because I'd like to know whether

[Louis]

or not you guys are disappointed. Here's Greg Cody very soon thereafter when he realizes, oh, Belgium's just going to hold the ball all game and we're not going to have any chances. And the goalkeeper who we decided on a week before the World cup, had four years to get one of those a week before. We still don't know who's going to be the keeper. And, oh, that's why, okay, he's going

[Dan Le Batard]

to allow a ridiculous goal that reminds

[Louis]

you of Greg Cody in 1979 when he was the backup goalkeeper on his intramural team. Just flying out club and doing. Doing the Yong way coup kick of just kicking the ground in front of the ball as if you've never played soccer before, never done anything.

[Stugotz]

Why do you do that even?

[Greg Cody]

I've never done that.

[Ian]

To be fair. He's in goal, right? He's not usually out there. He's like, okay, what do I do here? The guy's behind me. Where is he?

[Louis]

I don't know.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, we don't need to be fair there. You can't do that on the World cup stage. Now, before we get to you guys, because I really I unsurprised by the American delusional reaction of entitlement where you expect something more. And if you're going to lose, I would have preferred some drama. I would have preferred, you know, overtime, close game, penalty kick, something. Just not a waste of our time. Last night watching that game because you see fairly instantaneously, you had two minutes where you were excited, two. You got two whole minutes where you tied the game. But the problem of fixing afflicting the United States is that they are in the college football rankings, others receiving votes in the world. That's they. What they just did is what they are. And their problem is they don't have a star. They don't have one of those. And you keep selling me Pulisic, but he turned the ball over 11 times, lost possession in 45 minutes more than anybody on the field. They do not have a star. American soccer has been trying to tell us for four or five decades that we are going to get on the world stage with the elite and they don't have anyone who represents stardom. These numbers are startling, but it's what the United States is. I will get to your disappointment in a second. But we're now one in six in the round of 16, all six of the losses, zero goals or one goal. They can't score. Like when it gets deeper and deeper into this and you're playing against the teams that are as good or as you or better, you're just another team running around out there wasting everybody's time. And so where are you guys? Because they made the mistake of inflating hope and now people are extra disappointed today. The criticism is coming hard and it's coming hard for only two players. As far as I can tell, it's the keeper and it's Pulisic.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I feel like you're overreacting. I feel like you overreacted last week when you said it was already a monumental success just for the US to reach the round of 16.

[Dan Le Batard]

I didn't say a monumental success. I just said it's a successful World cup run to get to the round of 16.

[Greg Cody]

And it wasn't because that's. That's the average. That's where they're stuck in a rut. Getting beyond the round of 16 would have made it a success. And when you say they don't have a great score, if you're saying they don't have an Mbappe or a Messi. They don't have a star.

[Dan Le Batard]

They don't have a star. They were about to play when you guys are sitting here telling me they can win the World cup and I'm like, what the hell are you talking about? They don't have a star. All the remaining teams have stars. The team's expected to win. The favored teams have people who score goals.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, you just said that they're one of the other teams also receiving votes. To use the college football analysis analogy, they were ranked 15th in the world going into this game out of more than 200 nations playing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, but that's like your top 15. It moves up and down. And you can fall under the top 25 when we change the list.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. They were in the top. They were 13 a couple of weeks before the World Cup. That have been as low as 17 in the last couple of years. They're a top 20 team. Obviously they're not where they need to be, but neither are they. And also receiving votes.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're the bottom of the top 16 and they just got knocked out in the round of 16.

[Greg Cody]

Right. Right. Which means it is not a successful World cup like you said it was last week. It isn't. It was an average. It was a typical World cup performance for the US Team with a fairly easy run to the. To the 16 and with home field advantage. It was an ordinary World cup for the US Men. It was not a success by any measure whatsoever.

[Stugotz]

I think it's a mass. I don't think it's just disappointment. I think it's a massive disapp. What happened. Not only do the way that they lost last night, but Greg makes a good point about it being an easy run. Why was it an easy run? Well, because they're the host country and so you get to be slotted into the top tier, which of course means that your group matches are going to be much easier than you actually deserve. So in a year where they got the great draw being in the top tier as a host nation, they didn't even advance past where they routinely get to. I mean, miss me with the whole. They won the knockout round game round of 32 only exists this year. The first time it's ever existed. Like, they literally got to the exact point that they always get to, and this time they got their shit kicked in. Okay, they don't always get their shit kicked in. In the round of 16 last night, they did.

[Dan Le Batard]

What is that phrase? Someone helped me with that phrase. I've been hearing it for a long time. And what happens? I go to the bathroom, I shit, and then someone kicks and it goes back in. Like, what is that phrase?

[Ian]

Well, they're kicking your ass so hard that the shit is going back.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, okay.

[Ian]

Take me right in the ass.

[Greg Cody]

I thought you had the shit kicked out of you. That's what I thought.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's what I thought. But evidently it was kicked out of us and then it was kicked back in because Belgium held the ball all game. And the part that was disappointing about last night, beyond the fact that they injected a bit of hope into our country, that was not interesting fun. There was nothing to watch there that indicated to you at any point after the first 30 minutes that the United States was going to do much of anything.

[Stugotz]

Like, Like, Dan, you mentioned that Belgium just held the ball the whole game. I don't think that was the case at all in the second. Like, the first half, US was awful. Holy shit. Were we. We were the. We were the worst team in the World cup in the first half. They were so bad in that first half. At least in the second half, the U.S. had the ball pretty much the entire half. But they get no chances. They get no shots. They had two shots. Not shots on goal. Well, they were also shots on goal, but two total shots. Only one in the second half, all game.

[Dan Le Batard]

I misspoke. If you heard if what I said is that they, that Belgium possessed the ball. There were no reasonable threats for the United States that gave you any reason to think. Like, like the, the, the thing that caused all the hope, the first game against Padawai where they, they. They are controlling the ball and they're attacking and they're aggressive and you see that they're threatening. There was nothing in the way of threat during that game.

[Ian]

Garcia changed up the lineup, too. They took out De Bruyne. They took out a bunch of people and were like, okay, that's what you're going to do to this team. Like, the. The US May have a chance. And then Pulisic just got bullied the entire game that he was out there, completely bullied. Did not look like he played soccer whatsoever.

[Greg Cody]

Pulisic had 17 touches the entire game, a miniscule total.

[Dan Le Batard]

He lost the ball 11 times. He lost possession 11 times in 45 minutes.

[Greg Cody]

He had an abysmal game. And the whole attacking of the US Last night, they couldn't get to the end line for crosses, they couldn't earn corner kicks. Everything was stuck in. They were constipated in midfield. They couldn't move it in and take shots on goal. It was the worst. It wasn't just that they lost because Belgium is a better side. I don't care what the betting odds said. The homer betting odds I think had the US As a slight favorite. Belgium's a better squad. It would have been a nice win. But they picked the worst time to have their worst game of the World Cup.

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[Kenny]

Tony, you know that Moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks.

[Ian]

I know it. Well, it's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.

[Kenny]

Yeah. You usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo fucking like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night.

[Ian]

It has that effect on people.

[Kenny]

It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering.

[Stugotz]

Keep it Cuervo.

[Greg Cody]

Keep it Cuervo, baby.

[Dan Le Batard]

Down, Lebatar.

[Tony]

Can't wait for 39.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I can't either. 40 comes first.

[Stugotz]

Do you know what 40 is yet?

[Greg Cody]

Not yet.

[Stugotz]

See?

[Dan Le Batard]

What are we doing?

[Louis]

Greg, did you just.

[Greg Cody]

Just laugh?

[Louis]

Did you just laugh out loud at something Lewis said in your ear?

[Greg Cody]

Great, Cody. Yes. I couldn't help it. It was funny.

[Louis]

Yeah, but dear.

[Greg Cody]

Thanks, Louis. Gagging the goose, of course, choking the frog. I mean, there's a million of them. Of course, half of them would sound dirty if we keep doing it.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show.

[Stugotz]

Let's not sugarcoat it. Pulisic. He was. He was terrible yesterday. He was a no show this entire.

[Greg Cody]

He didn't.

[Stugotz]

Like, like, I understand he got hurt in the first game, so they kept him out of the second half and then he missed the second game. He was a no show the entire.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know you guys are making fun of me, Greg. Specifically when I say they don't have an Mbappe. Okay, that seems fairly obvious, but when you're watching Holland, where you're watching Harry Kane, where you're watching Messi, that's the United States star. That's the name on the jerseys. That's the guy that people know, because they've been telling us since he's 19 years old that he is hope of American soccer. And it went and died on the field last night in a way that got bullied. Now he's injured, okay?

[Louis]

He's.

[Dan Le Batard]

He is not 100% healthy. He's not. But the idea that the United States didn't have anything in the way of a threat for. You can say now that Belgium is better, but not as a betting. No, no. The money was on the United States last night. And before that game, it was not clear to the money that Belgium is the better side. We watched the game and now it's clear to everybody that Belgium, coming off a Game where they were almost eliminated. They were down two nothing against Senegal in the 82nd minute in their last game and they won the game. 3, 2. They should have been tired. That's an old team. They should have been beaten up. The United States is more athletic and what the end result is that the United States fan is now bothered because they did inflate hope in a way that made the expectations, I think, unreasonable. I don't think that they were. I don't think when Fox is begging the United States to not turn off its television after that game and to please keep watching the game. I don't believe they did anything last night to earn fans. They did stuff before that to earn fans. Last night. Last night was going to be the most watched, I imagine when the numbers come in, the most watched United States men's soccer game there has ever been, and they did nothing last night to earn a fan.

[Stugotz]

Have we not been having this exact same conversation for years now? Is this the World cup that takes soccer to the next level here in the United States, we have that conversation every four years.

[Greg Cody]

Every four years.

[Stugotz]

And this year, like it was no different from any other year.

[Tony]

I think we've reached the top of our current level. To your point. We have not reached the next level yet. But I will admit in this World cup, just the feel good, the good performances early on, they're at the top of their current level, but to your point, have not reached the next one yet.

[Greg Cody]

For me, the difference is that in this World cup, there was a little bit of a reason to actually be hopeful. They played four games before last night. They won three of the four. The offense was not an issue leading into last night's game. They were scoring fine in this World cup, but last night was different. You can say Belgium's not any good. They're a 10th ranked team. They're a top.

[Dan Le Batard]

I didn't say they weren't any good.

[Greg Cody]

They have pedigree. They're an old means experience. They're a pedigreed franchise, so to speak. A pedigreed country in World cup lore, although they've never reached the final quality team. I can't. The only reason the US Was favored last night was because of Homer. No, no, no.

[Dan Le Batard]

They were favored last night because how they looked in the first four games.

[Greg Cody]

That's fair.

[Dan Le Batard]

And Chris, when you say they're not at the next level, how many levels are there? What. What level do you have them on

[Tony]

as you're five levels total?

[Dan Le Batard]

And so which, which one are they climbing like, how many are ahead of them? Because in terms of having a star, they're not on any kind of level. Level. They do not have a star soccer player. America does not have a star soccer player.

[Ian]

Why are there five levels, though?

[Tony]

I don't know. It feels right.

[Dan Le Batard]

So where are they, though, when you

[Tony]

say if there's five, I would say they're at the top of the second level. No, they were thinking they could get into that.

[Ian]

Second from the bottom or second from the top.

[Tony]

16th ranked team out of hundreds of teams. How are they now?

[Stugotz]

Do you think they're right below the elite countries?

[Tony]

Well, no, I see, like, yes, you said the top.

[Dan Le Batard]

You.

[Tony]

To me, the elite teams are in the five.

[Greg Cody]

The.

[Tony]

The next best are in the four. Like, what are you guys talking about?

[Dan Le Batard]

How many elite teams are you making? How many elite teams you're putting in the five?

[Tony]

My bad. I was going up to five.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, I got it.

[Jeremy]

You got him in two or four.

[Stugotz]

Wouldn't one be the best?

[Louis]

Well, he's.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's got him at two and four. But I want, like, a totem pole, depending on which way you're going here.

[Tony]

I like to be on the fifth level.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, but I think they're right in the middle, though. I don't think. I think they're at the top of the third level.

[Ian]

Either way you slice it, they're in the middle.

[Greg Cody]

Middle. Right.

[Jeremy]

There's only five teams per Shams Charania, the Cleveland Cavaliers.

[Louis]

Cody, you gotta go.

[Jeremy]

Have signed Donovan Mitchell to a four year, $273 million max contract extension.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Something I was thinking about, as it regards the Cavaliers, do you guys think that for sure James Harden is going back there? Is it possible that LeBron goes there to replace James Harden? Because why the hell does he want to be there with James Harden?

[Greg Cody]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like James Harden, though, opted out thinking he's gonna go back there?

[Greg Cody]

No.

[Stugotz]

Well, it's the same thing that happened with him in Philadelphia, which led to him saying Darrow Morey's a liar. And I will never play for an organization that employs Darrow Morey. Like, it seems like he's kind of caught in the same thing right now with Cleveland.

[Dan Le Batard]

But does everyone think that if LeBron wants to go there, the money for James Harden is gone? Isn't that what's going to happen? Is James Harden going to be hurt and bothered? Is. Is it being reported that James Harden might not be with the Cavs? Because every way I've seen it framed is that if LeBron goes to Cleveland, it's with that as the core, but it's a redundant skill set. They wouldn't need James Harden if they had LeBron.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, I think it's about. If they. You're right. And I think if they sign LeBron, you then use Harden in a sign and trade to get. Get a couple of other pieces to round out your roster.

[Greg Cody]

I feel like Harden is done. I just don't. With. With his defensive liability and his age. I just. I mean done in the sense of commanding a big contract and being anything close to a centerpiece. He's just.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's going to get a lot of money. What do you mean? He's not. He's going to get a big contract.

[Greg Cody]

How much?

[Dan Le Batard]

What are you doing? You said done and then not done in some sort of definition for done that only you have. What does done mean?

[Greg Cody]

Okay, he's done at a large contract. He's not done if the price.

[Stugotz]

What's a large contract?

[Greg Cody]

Over 30 million a year.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's. He's going to. He's going to get a lot of money. James Harden is going to get 30.

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[Dan Le Batard]

He's going to get a lot of money. James Harden is going to be. We'll see.

[Greg Cody]

We'll see. I mean, you know, you said last week Philadelphia was not a real team and play for LeBron.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't think it is. I don't think it is.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, what do you.

[Dan Le Batard]

You disagree? Based on what?

[Greg Cody]

Based on everything I've read and heard. I mean, why wouldn't LeBron. LeBron listed like 12 teams he was considering, including Philadelphia. They make a pretty good case. When Embiid's healthy, they make a pretty good case.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think most people listening to this are expecting LeBron to go to either Cleveland, Miami or the warriors in some. In that order, probably.

[Stugotz]

I want you to look at me when I say this, all right, Greg, there is a zero percent chance LeBron goes to Philadelphia.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. Okay, I agree with that. Top three, Cleveland, Miami, Golden State. Yeah, solid top three. And I wouldn't blame, you know, he's on a retirement tour now. What's wrong with going back to your hometown? Like that's perfect for him. Miami would be. I could make a case for any of the three teams in descending order, but Cleveland makes sense. You know, he doesn't go to Cleveland and people are going, why the hell did he go to Cleveland? Because he's a 40, almost 42 year old guy looking to retire in his hometown. It's a sweet story.

[Stugotz]

I think you would get some of that not from a story book perspective, but from a winning basketball perspective. If he did go to Cleveland, I do think you would get some of that. Why is he going there if he's trying to win? I do think you get a little bit of it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is he going to get a one year deal? A two year deal? Like how is he going to sign up for this next season? If he signs a, a one year deal, then he's announcing his retirement, isn't he? If it's just a one year deal, you don't, you wouldn't expect him to be there for a year and then move again, right?

[Stugotz]

My guess would be he does what he did every other one of those four years he was last with Cleveland. Was he signed a one plus one

[Dan Le Batard]

every time with him having the option.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

So that it's not officially sort of a retirement tour. I can't believe we're talking about this person at this age. This way I just, I go look in the history of basketball, we were talking about Hoyt Wilhelm setting the career strikeout record for relievers at the age of five days short of his 50th birthday. Find for me, just the best previous 40 year old of any kind. The best. And it might be Diana Taurasi.

[Ian]

Like Tom Brady.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't think. No, no, I'm talking about basketball. I'm talking about in basketball we have to run around. Go ahead and ask Tom Brady to run around and see how that works for him at the end.

[Ian]

I mean, he was running around at 40.

[Louis]

Around.

[Dan Le Batard]

He wasn't running around.

[Louis]

He can be. He could barely run around. No, that's not it. I don't know if you've seen Larry David's new show, but there's a scene where he's reenacting a war thing and he's trying to run and he shouldn't. Larry David should not try to run because it looks ridiculous when an old person runs. That's what Tom Brady was running around like in the pocket by the end when he was releasing the ball in.3Ns every time.

[Stugotz]

I mean, just for some perspective, you know, a lot of people feel Kareem as Pat Riley, who he thinks is the greatest player of all time. Pat Riley tells you you Kareem Abdul Jabbar, right. And of course LeBron. You know, a couple years go past Kareem for the all time scoring record. Kareem's second to last year was when he was 40. Okay. He retired after 41. I mean just a shell of himself.

[Dan Le Batard]

Of course.

[Stugotz]

A shell. And by the way, in that year, 40 played 80 games.

[Dan Le Batard]

What do you average 10 points a game in his.

[Stugotz]

When he was 40, he averaged 14 and a half. In his final year at 41, he averaged 10 points and 4 and a half rebounds, appeared in 74 games.

[Greg Cody]

Did Steve Nash play at 14? I feel like he did.

[Dan Le Batard]

He did not.

[Greg Cody]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

No one's played well at 40 like this is. LeBron is the only human being who has ever played basketball well beyond the age of 40. Can you guys tell me what's going on with Giannis and the Heat and uniform numbers? So they are now. We played that sound last week of Tim Hardaway Sr. Saying my son will not wear that jersey. That jersey is retired now. That jersey is not retired. He is going to wear that jersey and I think I'll allow it because it's the same name on the back of the jersey.

[Stugotz]

Get out. First of all, the Heat. I love the Heat. That the team of my childhood, I'm always gonna love them. They need to get their act together when it comes to these jerseys. I mean, what the hell are we doing here? They put in the store for sale 34 Heat jerseys. Antetokounmpo 34. You could take it off the rack, you bring it to the register, you give him your hard earned money, you get home, hey, we need a do over. He's number seven. How does that happen? And then Tim Hardaway gets in front of everybody and says, no way is my son allowed to have my number. No one can have my number. That jersey is retired. That number is retired. And then several days later, hey, guess What? Tim Hardaway Jr. He's number 10. What are we doing here?

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[Stugotz]

Down Levitar can't trade Marino.

[Louis]

Nice hat.

[Stugotz]

It's what he's most known for. It's like I'm holding on to it. Great, Cody. Nice nine and two. But it's Marino. And then the next time we saw Marino, after Greg Cody trail him, he threw for five touchdowns and he was standing the man on the COVID of Sports Illustrated. You can't trade Marino.

[Greg Cody]

Nice head.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar Show. A couple of things. First of all, I would allow it if I were Tim Senior, but I would tell my son, get The Junior off of there.

[Ian]

It looks.

[Louis]

It's going to sit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Say Hardaway on the back of your jersey. And that's the number we're wearing. That's my number. That's the family name. Get the Junior off of the jersey. It's just going to say Hardaway because either it's retired or it just says Hardaway. Don't want the Junior on there as it relates to antetokounmpo, though. Are you guys purists about this stuff? Because I would think that the number 34 heat jersey is the one I'd prefer to have now because it's the rarer thing and it's not actually real. And it's a funny joke. Joke. I'd prefer for value purposes to get the rarer of the jerseys. It's that one printed mistake that they made as a franchise. I would rather have the 34 than the 7 because it's funny.

[Ian]

Do you want me to run across the street and see if they have the 34 and get.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Tony]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. Go over there. Is the store open right now?

[Jeremy]

They had it as of last night. Like, I walked in there for a concert last night and There was still 34 everywhere.

[Dan Le Batard]

Go over there and get it. A Heat jersey that will never be worn for a single played minute is the jersey that I want. If I'm somebody who would wear jerseys, and I'm not because I'm not showing off my arms.

[Stugotz]

10am 10am by the way, it opens 10am okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

We'll have him waiting outside the door just as soon as they open to see if he can get a 34 onto composure.

[Tony]

Third option. You take a permanent marker with the 34th or a little addition sign right there. Boom.

[Dan Le Batard]

Three plus four equals seven.

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[Stugotz]

I'm not with you, by the way, wearing the 34 jersey. That's dopey me.

[Greg Cody]

No, that's fine. No, it's. It's intentional. Collector's item. The whole thing is intentional.

[Dan Le Batard]

Where are you guys? As purists. Right. The people who got 34s are now going to ask for refunds and be hurt and offended and bothered and feel. And feel ripped off.

[Tony]

They said they would exchange it, but I'm with you, Dan. If I had One of the 34s, I'm keeping it.

[Greg Cody]

Me too.

[Kenny]

You.

[Stugotz]

You would wear. You have the 34 because you bought it yesterday and you're going to rock that at Heat game. It's a good conversation jersey. How's it a conversation? So everybody knows how you got it. Oh, you know Confused as.

[Ian]

You don't get it. That's what it is. You want the 34. Everybody has the seven. You're one of the 11 people that have 34.

[Stugotz]

You want a jersey that's not real.

[Ian]

It shows.

[Jeremy]

I'm such a Die Hard that I was one of the very first people to show up at the Heat store in person at the arena and get that 34.

[Stugotz]

I'm one of the 20 people in

[Jeremy]

the world that showed up day one to support Yanis.

[Stugotz]

And it's a mistake with the little plus signs. So it's a mistake. So you're in a mistake jury.

[Greg Cody]

Yes. Proudly. It's a collector's item. It's the. It's the basketball equivalent of having a Mike Piazza card in a Marlins uniform. Even though he played a minute and a half for the Marlins. But he played okay. But still, it's a collector's item. It's a rarity.

[Dan Le Batard]

How many games did he play?

[Louis]

Nine games.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did Piazza play nine games for the Marlins? I'm. I'm gonna tell you something here that I don't think that Giannis has taught us of that he should think about esthetically, optically, because he's so skinny. A single digit uniform number with that long a name is going to look ridiculous. It doesn't. It's not going to look right. It's going to. That it's the longest name in Heat history to ever be on the back of a jersey. You're going to have to make a parabola that goes from his left hip to his right hip to get his whole name on there. It doesn't look right to have a single digit there. It looks imbalanced. It looks like it's off kilter, but. But more so because of how skinny he is.

[Ian]

I like it because it's. The 7 sits right in the middle. Right. If you have the 34, then you got to, like, push it down so that the atetokounmpo sits on the top of it like a rainbow.

[Greg Cody]

It's gorgeous looking. I love how you have Giannis worried about the esthetics of what the back of his shirt looks.

[Dan Le Batard]

You think athletes don't care how they look?

[Greg Cody]

No, not when you have a name like that.

[Stugotz]

You're.

[Greg Cody]

You see your name being that long and it's that long whether or not it's one digit or two underneath it.

[Dan Le Batard]

You think athletes don't care how they look in the uniform?

[Greg Cody]

They. Yeah, of course they do, but they're not. Like, he's not picking the Heat because he Loves their uniform. And he's not. Not picking the heat.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really.

[Greg Cody]

He doesn't enjoy the colors.

[Louis]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you know that that's where you. Okay, thank you, Greg. That's good analysis. Well, that's excellent analysis.

[Greg Cody]

You said he's worried about what he looks like in a uniform.

[Louis]

Okay, I did, but I didn't say that he would choose his team based on how the uniform looked. I did not imply that. That's not what I said.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not what I implied.

[Louis]

It's not what I thought.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not what I articulated.

[Greg Cody]

Implicated.

[Louis]

It's not what I. Implicated.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. All right. Try to live that one down.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why did he Change his number?

[Louis]

2. 7.

[Dan Le Batard]

What is the explanation in going from 34 to 7?

[Stugotz]

Why did the heat not know he

[Greg Cody]

wanted to look skinny, Slimming? Yeah, I'd do it. Too thin. I'd have three numbers on the back if I could. I'd be 104. Why don't they have three numbers instead of one? Why is it always just two? Dead right.

[Louis]

What would.

[Dan Le Batard]

What would be Your uniform number?

[Greg Cody]

1440.

[Louis]

So it'd be four digits.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Louis]

Your uniform number would be four digits.

[Greg Cody]

That's right.

[Louis]

One of the most amazing things, incidentally, to ever happen on this show is me breaking into Greg Cody's phone by guessing what his password is, because it's. Because it was his childhood address. And I just knew that he has an allegiance to his childhood address because I remember the story sitting across from embittered Minneapolis Star Tribune columnist Tom Bowers, as Greg Cody spent three minutes explaining to him, yes, I'm writing a book. It's called 1440.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's my initial address. And Tom looks up from his bacon and just says, that sounds duller than dog shit.

[Greg Cody]

Well, to flesh out that story, the title of the book was 1440. Subhead, the Legend of an American Home.

[Louis]

Go ahead, keep going. Tell people what it was you were going to talk to. Everyone lived there, right? You're going to talk to any. Anyone who had ever lived there. You were going to go through the past and interview them. And Tom Powers looked up from his bacon and said, that sounds duller than dog.

[Greg Cody]

I hesitate to even flesh it out because it's not a patented idea. Somebody's liable to run with it. But this is a home.

[Louis]

You think authors are going to be gathering on your lawn right now to find out 1441. They're going to go through all of the records in Miami's data history to see who was in a 1440 in the history of 1440.

[Greg Cody]

It was a. It was a home in West Hollywood. The, the name of the city was West Hollywood until, until it became just Hollywood. And my dad bought the home in 1961, I believe for $11,990. Now since that time there have probably been, I'm just taking a wild guess, 40 different families that have lived in that home.

[Louis]

That's Tom Powers up on the screen right now. And that is exactly the look faced as he looked up from his bacon and he just gave Greg a withering stare. Greg was so excited to just sort of tell for some reason Tom Powers, who by the way is the single worst audience for this in the history of sportswriting. Like all this guy wrote, just all this guy wrote was embittered columns. I think it's the late Tom Powers. Look that up. It might cost me $50. I believe it's the late Tom Powers.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't think I'm killing him accidentally.

[Louis]

I don't think he's with us anymore. Otherwise I'd ask the guest bookers to go find him right now, see if he remembers story. But he looked up from his plate

[Dan Le Batard]

and it was such a terrible things as to say to somebody who was

[Louis]

delivering an idea that was both personal and excited. He just took a hatchet to it in a way that I don't think I've ever seen. Greg Cody talked to that way and he deflated as much as he did in that chair last night when the. The American keeper behaved the way that Greg Cody did when playing intramurals on his 1979 soccer club.

[Greg Cody]

Club level football. We had uniforms. We took road trips the next day.

[Ian]

Step up from intramural.

[Louis]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you. Thank you. Tony.

[Louis]

Is it the next step up?

[Dan Le Batard]

I feel like play intramurals club when Great.

[Louis]

When Chris Cody is doing his. His next levels is 5 intramurals. 4 is club level. 3 is where the United States is and then 2 other elite levels above that. Right? Okay. Those are those, those are the levels of soccer is based on the expertise of our show. Mike Ryan has fled the premises to go to Atlanta to watch. To watch ARG and Egypt this afternoon.

[Dan Le Batard]

That game's going to start at like 11, right?

[Greg Cody]

Noon.

[Stugotz]

He is going there to see Egypt though he is not interested in seeing Messi.

[Dan Le Batard]

He was disappointed that Messi advanced. He was disappointed that Messi advanced. He wanted Cape Verde to advance.

[Stugotz]

He should be disappointed. He could see Messi whenever he wants right here.

[Greg Cody]

Only you know who wanted Cape Verde to beat Argentina? Everybody who lives in Argentina and Mike Ryan that's the only people on earth.

[Stugotz]

I was conflicted watching that. Like it had an NCAA tournament feel to it where it's like, do I want to root for this Cinderella or do I want to keep watching Messi play in the tournament?

[Dan Le Batard]

What are your guys thoughts on what RG3 did here last night where he tweeted an RG3 likes to be polarizing, likes to be the center of lightning rod situations. If you are a US Citizen and you aren't rooting for the USA against Belgium, you are a traitor. No other way to put it. You can't be trusted if you are rooting against your own country in the World Cup.

[Stugotz]

I, I despise being on the same side as Robert Griffin iii. But I agree, I agree here.

[Dan Le Batard]

So if you're from Spain or if for example, my mother is rooting for Spain, she's rooting for Spain because her late father, who she lost in her early childhood, loved soccer more than anything else. And some of her favorite memories are the way that her late father feels about the Spanish football team. She's a true.

[Stugotz]

No, I don't think. That's not how I read that. I read that as people who were rooting for Belgium last night because Baligan was allowed to play. So if you're. Because I saw a lot of that yesterday. I'm rooting for Belgium. This isn't right. The United States doesn't deserves. I hope Belgium wins and gives those cheaters what they deserve. That's how I read that.

[Ian]

He has no. It doesn't say any other team. It says if you're rooting against the US Team against Belgium.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, that's how I write that.

[Ian]

This game, if you're rooting against the United States, you're a trader.

[Stugotz]

Play on like, like they change their allegiance. Greg, based on what happened with Baligan, you were rooting for us, but now you want to root what's right.

[Greg Cody]

Right. I heard that the whole it blew up in Trump's face, which is the only good thing to happen last night. Everything about forcing Baligan to play, it was a stain on the whole World Cup. It was a stain on soccer. It has everyone laughing. Now the US Becomes the bully that failed because of the Baligan thing. It's a whole subtext of that loss last night. That's. That just makes the whole catastrophic and ridiculous. But what RG3 said is ridiculous. And anybody who agrees with him, Sorry, Zaz. Is also ridiculous. I demote him to RG1 because of his comments.

[Ian]

Hold on, Greg, you notorious homer for the United States was rooting for Belgium.

[Greg Cody]

No, I was rooting for the United States because you know why? I live in America and I get to decide. Okay. I happen to have a. One of my housekeepers is a Honduran woman. Woman. Okay. She's a citizen of the United States, but from Honduras. She barely speaks English. If Honduras had made the World Cup. I'm going to criticize her for cheering for the World Cup.

[Stugotz]

No, you just fire her.

[Sponsor Voice]

Okay.

[Louis]

All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

So everything Trump touches turns to feces. The Knicks, the only time they lost

[Louis]

is in seven months, was when he went to the game and fell asleep. And now he gets involved with the. The United States soccer, and they immediately embarrassed themselves.

[Dan Le Batard]

And you just called it both catastrophic

[Louis]

and ridiculous, which last night was neither of those things. They lost as a small favorite.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, it was neither catastrophic nor ridiculous.

[Greg Cody]

I disagree. Catastrophic may be an exaggeration. It was ridiculous because it was subject to ridicule. The way they lost in the context of strong arming Baligan into the game and then having him do nothing.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'll allow it. Actually, the root form of ridiculous is subject to ridicule. And you're right.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you.

[Louis]

The United States is being ridiculed. And RG3, who has been demoted to RG1, he thinks you're a traitor. If you were rooting for Belgium last night.