Do The Philadelphia 76ers Have ANY Chance Without Joel Embiid? | Local Hour

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Episode: Do The Philadelphia 76ers Have ANY Chance Without Joel Embiid? | Local Hour
Date: May 7, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this “Local Hour” from downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the Shipping Container crew blend sports talk with their signature brand of chaos. The main theme orbits the Philadelphia 76ers' chances in the NBA playoffs without Joel Embiid, but true to form, the episode sprawls into dream analysis, recurring gags about Chris Cody’s wife’s twin, and musings on Giannis Antetokounmpo’s future. The crew takes frequent detours, but always circles back to the pressing NBA questions: Can the Sixers survive without Embiid? What will the Bucks do with Giannis? And does it ever make sense to play your star only in crunch time?

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Show Recap & Banter

• The crew starts reflecting on their previous show’s antics, particularly Chris Cody’s "wife's twin" saga, which continues to be a running gag.
  • [02:44] Dave: “Chris Cody said that he sometimes fancies his wife's twin.”
  • [04:14] Tony: “That's true. I mean she's, she looks the same as my wife. I'm just saying I don't know what you said. I don't want to play.”

2. Dream Talk and Stream-of-Consciousness Comedy

• There’s an extended, comedic sidebar on dream analysis, including:
  • Recurring dreams about teeth crumbling (anxiety). [11:49] Chris Cody: “I have several recurring dreams...my teeth are crumbling, are shattering.”
  • Anxiety dreams about missing work and returning to school.
  • Chris Cody’s absurd “affair” dream with Jennifer Lopez.
    • [08:01] Chris Cody: “So I have to introduce my lady friend to Amber, okay?...She goes, Jennifer Lopez. Wow. I was having an affair with Jennifer Lopez.”
  • The group jokes about the meaninglessness of dream interpretation:
    • [11:07] Dave: “If there’s a better job than that, I think it is dream analysis because it’s complete and utter unprovable garbage.”

3. Hotel Remote ‘Waking Nightmare’ and NBA Blowouts

• Dave shares a "waking nightmare" about unintuitive hotel remote controls, paralleling the confusion and futility in some NBA playoff blowouts.
  • [19:39] Dave: “I was reminded as I did it, oh, no. For some reason, this remote control's top button...is not the on off button. It controls some other function that I have no goddamn interest in figuring out what it is.”

4. 76ers Without Joel Embiid – Can They Win?

• The actual sports meat begins: discussing the Sixers’ performance without Embiid, especially in their most recent playoff loss.
  • They note the team played faster and more competitively but ran out of gas late and missed Embiid’s presence in crunch time.
    • [21:15] Mike: “Is it fair criticism to say they would also get tired with Joel Embiid because he labors up and down the court these days?”
    • [21:39] Dan: “Lack of depth really hurt them...that’s why Barlow was such a great revelation...But then he got tired...maybe freshen up the rotation a little bit more."
  • The hosts question why Embiid, when available but limited, isn’t just used for second halves or fourth quarters.
    • [22:32] Chris Cody: “Why play him in the first quarter so he can, instead of be laboring in the fourth quarter when the game slows down, when you probably could have used him yesterday for a basket?”
    • [23:10] Dan: “This argument where I yelled at you is because you suggested this as a form of load management, and that's ridiculous...guys need the rhythm to get into the game, particularly guys who are [starters].”
  • They agree you “can’t count on Embiid for an entire series”—which is the core reason the Sixers likely can’t win it all.

5. Adjusting to Embiid’s In/Out Status – For Both Sixers & Opponents

• Discussion of whether constantly changing Embiid’s availability helps or hurts either side more.
  • [26:42] Dan: “Over the last several years [the Sixers] have a lot of experience doing it [playing without Embiid].”
  • [27:34] Dave: “It’s a bad coach for a team that is playing against the team that may or may not have its focal point.”

6. Knicks Injuries and Adjustments

• Brief note that the Knicks are also banged up, with Mitchell Robinson and potentially OG Anunoby out, making the series more unpredictable.

7. Paul George’s Surprise Impact

• The Sixers’ Paul George (not the Clippers star, but a role player in this context after a PED suspension) gets a surprising amount of credit for his two-way performance.
  • [29:45] Dan: “If it weren’t for the fact that they lost that game, we’d be talking about Paul George today. And that’s the one that’s hard to game plan against...he missed 25 games this year due to suspension for PED use.”
  • [33:18] Greg suggests: Should stars “purposefully take banned substances” to get playoff rest instead of tanking?

8. Bucks, Giannis, & Looming NBA Offseason Drama

• The crew pivots to the Bucks and their superstar Giannis Antetokounmpo after an eyebrow-raising quote by owner Jimmy Haslam that strongly implies the team may move on before the draft:
  • [34:50] Jimmy Haslam: “If Giannis does play somewhere else, we ought to get a lot of assets and that's John's job to do it. If he's here, then you build the team differently...our relationship with him...is very Positive.”
  • The group interprets this as a clear sign the Bucks will shop Giannis if he won't sign an extension.
• They explore what “resolution” the Bucks owner means.
  • [36:26] Dan: “I mean, I think he's trying to say all the right things. That's the problem. Everyone's trying to say the right thing.”
  • [36:53] Chris Cody: “It's very clear that he's going to be traded before the deadline is the first time. Before the draft. Excuse me.”
• The possibility of a Jalen Brown-for-Giannis trade: Is it enough? Should Milwaukee try to asset-build instead?
  • [40:24] Dan: “Now give them Jalen Brown, who I think we can all agree career year or not, not as good as Giannis Antetokounmpo.”
  • [41:06] Dan: “That does not move the needle for where they are as a franchise as far as winning...might just make them a middling team still.”
  • [41:53] Dan: “If you look at their roster, who do you have to be optimistic about? Like that guy could really become something one day?”

9. Trading Superstars – Emotional & Historical Context

• The emotional struggle of trading generational stars, with callbacks to Wayne Gretzky and LeBron James.
  • [42:55] Amin: “Except that the Edmonton Oilers already traded the alleged best player of all time in Wayne Gretzky.”
  • [43:18] Dave: “He came here in his prime and delivered you guys some titles, but then he bailed on you guys...You're paying his taxi fare to leave. It's a weird move.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [03:12] Amin: “Because that's how you settle hash now and forever. Way back a thousand years ago, nay, a million years ago, things were settled in physical competition. I say we continue that path.”
• [08:01] Chris Cody, on his dream affair: “Amber, this is Jennifer...She goes, Jennifer Lopez. Wow. I was having an affair with Jennifer Lopez. I mean, how about that?”
• [11:07] Dave: "If there's a better job than that, I think it is dream analysis because it's complete and utter unprovable garbage.”
• [19:39] Dave, ranting on remotes: “For some reason, this remote control's top button...controls some other function that I have no goddamn interest in figuring out what it is.”
• [21:39] Dan: “The lack of depth really hurt them...maybe freshen up the rotation a little bit more.”
• [22:32] Chris Cody: “Why play him [Embiid] in the first quarter?...Why not just start him in the second quarter?”
• [23:10] Dan (to Chris Cody’s suggestion re: Embiid): “This argument...is ridiculous. Guys need the rhythm to get into the game.”
• [34:50] Jimmy Haslam (Bucks owner): “If Giannis does play somewhere else, we ought to get a lot of assets and that's John's job to do it.”
• [40:24] Dan: "Now give them Jalen Brown, who I think we can all agree—career year or not—not as good as Giannis Antetokounmpo."
• [42:55] Amin: “The Edmonton Oilers already traded the alleged best player of all time in Wayne Gretzky.”

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Important NBA Timestamps

• [21:00] – Start of serious Sixers/Embiid talk: fatigue without Embiid, impact on team style and depth
• [22:32] – Chris Cody's load management & crunch time theory for Embiid
• [23:40] – Dan’s explanation of NBA player rhythm and the impracticality of “just using Embiid late”
• [27:34] – Sixers’ experience toggling with/without Embiid, impact on series adjustments
• [29:45] – Paul George’s (the Sixer) impact after PED suspension, and discussion about star “load management” via suspension
• [34:50] – Bucks owner Haslam’s Giannis quote: asset-building vs. holding star
• [40:24] – Trade scenarios, why a Jalen Brown swap isn’t as appealing as it seems
• [42:55] – Comparing superstar trades across leagues (Gretzky, LeBron, Giannis)

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Tone and Energy

True to the show’s style, the overall tone is irreverent and loose, with as many digressions into absurdity and inside jokes as pointed NBA insight. The crew is candid, self-deprecating, and never too far from going completely off the rails—yet they produce sharp sports conversations beneath the comedy.

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Summary

For listeners seeking direct, analytical basketball coverage, the episode does provide a detailed, multi-segment breakdown of the Embiid-Sixers scenario, but it’s couched in the signature chaos and camaraderie of the show. If you want a local Miami flavor, candid NBA talk, and a blend of sports and comedy, this episode is quintessential Dan Le Batard and friends. The Sixers probably don’t have enough without Embiid; the Bucks are almost certainly preparing to trade Giannis if there’s no extension; and, above all, everyone in the studio is more likely to remember their dreams—or at least make them up as they go.

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Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard]

this is the Dan Levator

[Chris Cody]

show with the ST Podcast. Jeremy, what did you like yesterday? What did we do? Well, what did we do that wasn't pleasing to you?

[Greg]

Yeah, loved a lot. I did have a few moments in my head where I used Zigaki voice. Just sort of listening in.

[Chris Cody]

What a performance, by the way, from the Cody from the duo and Chris yesterday. Give it up real quick. What a. That was well done. That was a performance.

[Tony]

I was thinking of just sitting a few plays out today if I could.

[Listener/Caller]

Yeah, yeah, that's.

[Tony]

You guys take this and I'll just establish the run.

[Dave]

Yeah, bring in the firefighter.

[Jeremy]

You.

[Kelly]

How was it when you got home?

[Tony]

Awkward in that I was like expecting. I walked in like, oh boy.

[Chris Cody]

A lot of people were very worried about your marital status yesterday.

[Tony]

I telling you, I didn't think I could still pop. Like I still got it because I saw multiple texts. People sending me screenshots of, you know, Reddit posts of, you know, Cody collision course, like divorce, you know. However the.

[Chris Cody]

No, you got it right. That's the same.

[Tony]

Yeah, it's rattled.

[Mike]

Let's establish a run.

[Tony]

But look, I'm established the run. Yeah, it was not a good day.

[Dave]

Well, let's establish or re establish what happened. Chris Cody said that he sometimes fancies his wife's twin.

[Chris Cody]

Well, maybe Jeremy has this on his list Sensually.

[Tony]

I would say you worded that differently than I did. I, I would just say we're not going to go back there. You know, I don't like that we're already here and I have a top five.

[Dave]

The twin sisters married to a firefighter. That's why I'm calling for a series of physical competitions between you and the fire.

[Chris Cody]

What's with your obsession with the physical competition you want us to all go through?

[Amin]

Because that's how you settle hash now and forever. Way back a thousand years ago, nay,

[Dave]

a million years ago, things were settled in physical competition. I say we continue that path with

[Greg]

Cody V. The firefight moments that I

[Listener/Caller]

loved from yesterday's show. Oh, a lie. When our female co worker asked for locations for the honeymoon, Greg's inner monologue said the butt.

[Mike]

Proud of that one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, man.

[Chris Cody]

Do you guys remember Greg was on one yesterday.

[Listener/Caller]

Number five, whatever that accent was that Amin did during the Austin river story.

[Chris Cody]

That's a fair observation.

[Dan Le Batard]

Which accent?

[Listener/Caller]

I really loved when Greg was giving advice to that young woman about bringing a partner to appease the mom that he just went for the good old assumption of it's definitely a boyfriend. Only boyfriends. There was a quote. He is the only one that is allowed to admit his sister in law is hot.

[Tony]

First of all, you guys are taking this and running with that. I didn't like. I'm not attracted to her. I didn't say that.

[Chris Cody]

Why wouldn't you be attracted to.

[Tony]

That's true. I mean she's, she looks the same as my wife. I'm just saying I don't know what you said. I don't want to play.

[Mike]

That's not what you said. You said when you're, you're struggling in the sack, you envision her.

[Tony]

Relax.

[Dan Le Batard]

I feel like that's.

[Listener/Caller]

It's a direct quote. I really like that one. Let's not go too early. Number two. I like that it only took us 10 minutes to say why can't we say redacted team name only to say it four times.

[Chris Cody]

That was you. That was you, Dave.

[Amin]

I never said.

[Dave]

I said guys with a potato.

[Amin]

It's a potato.

[Dan Le Batard]

A red skin potato.

[Listener/Caller]

And I really loved when Chris said he wants to. His wife's sister didn't say that.

[Mike]

So aggressive.

[Chris Cody]

Excellent job. So I. All right. I got to, I got to do share and tell now. All right. I had a one up it.

[Dave]

I remember like Chris Cody story.

[Chris Cody]

Well, it's not going to beat that. But I have, I have dreams. Okay. I've dream I remember my dreams. You do? You always remember? Well, you wouldn't know if you always remember, because if you don't remember, then you wouldn't remember. But do you remember dreams?

[Dave]

Sometimes, yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Is there anyone here that doesn't remember dreams? Like you? Straight up, never remember.

[Tony]

Very rare. Very rare for me to remember to dream.

[Chris Cody]

Really? That's a shame, man.

[Tony]

I know, because when I do, I'm like, that's fun.

[Chris Cody]

Dreams are awesome.

[Greg]

I want to do that more.

[Chris Cody]

I remember movies that you star in.

[Mike]

I remember the lucid dreams where you take control of your dream.

[Chris Cody]

I have that every now and then.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't get those. I had a dream. You're not in control. I had a dream last night. I got arrested for a dui. I wasn't even driving. I was literally in the back of a pickup truck. And the cop stops the car and makes me get out and do the field sobriety test. And I couldn't hear. And I said, I'm sorry. You asked me to do something. I said, can you repeat that? And he says, oh, this guy. You want to run that game with me? I'm like, no, I don't know what you asked me to do. And then at some point, I begin to convince myself, oh, no, this is a sign that you're drunk because you can't hear anything clearly. You're so drunk you can't even focus. Then I was like, wait a second. I'm not even driving. And then he cuffed me.

[Kelly]

Wow.

[Chris Cody]

Cucked.

[Dan Le Batard]

You cuffed me. Not a cuck.

[Jeremy]

Those are your dreams.

[Chris Cody]

So I had a dream a couple of nights ago, and, you know, like, do you ever have. For the married fellows here, which is almost everyone for now. Do you, like, do you ever have a dream where your wife. Let's say your wife, she was cheating on you.

[Tony]

Okay?

[Chris Cody]

This happened to me in one dream. I don't know if I told you guys that. And you wake up and you're mad at your wife even though she didn't do anything wrong. It was your dream. Do you ever do that where, like, you're. You're upset with her about something she did in your dream. Does that ever happen to you?

[Dave]

That's not happened to me now.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, that happened.

[Jeremy]

The reverse has happened to me before.

[Chris Cody]

Well, obviously, all women love to play that game. All right? They're upset with us. I didn't do anything. It was your dream.

[Dave]

I'm sleeping here.

[Tony]

You say women love to play that game. You just said you're playing that game.

[Chris Cody]

I know.

[Dan Le Batard]

Makes a Woman.

[Chris Cody]

I'm allowed to hold her to a double standard. So.

[Dave]

So wait, she is the ne' er do well in the situation that you just dreamt on.

[Chris Cody]

Was that what I mean?

[Dave]

She, she was stepping out.

[Chris Cody]

Well, not in the stream that I'm about to explain. Oh, okay, that's before.

[Dave]

Okay, okay, I'm sorry.

[Chris Cody]

So anyway, in this dream that I had. All right, I was having an affair in my dream, all right, not bad, not bad. Whatever. Get some strange energy. My sister in law, it's not real, okay? And I'm having an affair in my dream and I get caught, all right? I get caught. Like I pulled up, you know, like at a mall or something. We were going somewhere in a mall. We're going on a date. I don't know, I don't have all the specifics for you. And when we get out of the car, I get caught, all right, with the girl, all right? But I don't get caught by my wife. I get caught by my, my, my ESPN radio coast, Amber Wilson. She catches me. All right, so you're good for some reason. Yeah. She won't tell. She's radda die. She won't tell.

[Dan Le Batard]

Bro code.

[Chris Cody]

And so, so she catches us. Like she was like outside the car, you know, we get out of the car, I'm like, I'm like, oh shit, you know, I just got caught. So I have to, I have to introduce, you know, my, my lady friend to Amber, okay? And so I introduce, I go, amber, this is Jennifer, okay? And she goes, jennifer Lopez. Wow. I was having an affair with Jennifer Lopez. I mean, how about that?

[Jeremy]

So wait, you were in the car with Jennifer Lopez, driving around in your car?

[Chris Cody]

I was having an affair with Jennifer Lopez. I was driving. Yes. We were going somewhere.

[Dave]

He was in your car?

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Amin]

Incognito.

[Dave]

You're not gonna ride around Town Square Mall or wherever it is that you live. Paparazzi would know. There's JLO in her SUV with her driver. No, no, she's keeping it on the down low.

[Dan Le Batard]

I once had a dream that I was dating Jennifer Lopez.

[Chris Cody]

Is that right?

[Dan Le Batard]

We were riding in the back of a limo though.

[Chris Cody]

No, no, no.

[Tony]

You guys park your car in the

[Chris Cody]

same garage, so yes, I was. That's. That was my affair with Jennifer. You look great, by the way.

[Dave]

A means have. Means taking a run at your ladies aslo. I mean, how's that make you feel?

[Dan Le Batard]

I had her first, man. This is like 2003.

[Dave]

Oh, no.

[Chris Cody]

How about that? Now I don't have any other details.

[Jeremy]

You and Puff.

[Chris Cody]

But I'm just saying, you know, so

[Dan Le Batard]

it was playing with fire.

[Chris Cody]

So that was a good dream right there. All right. We woke up feeling good that day.

[Dave]

That's a dream, the waking nightmare. That is Chris Cody's life. Are you. So there's another man out there, a firefighter who's basically making sweet love to your wife. Essentially. Well, because she's, they're, they're, they're, you know, they're twins after all.

[Tony]

You're going to say, do you have

[Dave]

weird feelings, do you have weird feelings towards the firefighter?

[Tony]

You know, him and I actually spoke last night at bowling. He's the only person I like each

[Dave]

other, we have the same taste, man. We, you know, we park our cars in the same garage, but it's a little too close to home, right?

[Tony]

I mean, what do you want from me? Yes. Me and him, we, we know that we have. We're both married to twins. I'm rattled.

[Chris Cody]

Did he know what took place yesterday on this show?

[Tony]

No, he had.

[Dave]

I.

[Tony]

Because he, I said to him when I got to bowling, like, anyone send you the show today? Because usually he gets. He hears things I say more than my wife. And he had not heard it, oddly enough.

[Chris Cody]

How could he have not heard it? Then I told one of his, like, firefighter. But he said, hey, your brother in law, he's been thinking about something.

[Tony]

And then I found myself in a spot where I then had to tell him what I said because he's like,

[Dave]

why are you asking?

[Tony]

So I told him, I'm telling you.

[Jeremy]

This is what he said.

[Tony]

Like, he laughed.

[Jeremy]

Thank you.

[Tony]

He laughed, by the way. Back to this. But I says dreaming about Jennifer Lopez symbolizes a desire for fame, success, admiration, or, or need to embrace one's own confidence.

[Dan Le Batard]

Huh? Guess what happened to me, guys, I want a pulitzer. Google's right. 20 years off, but right.

[Tony]

So no more firefighter. You stop saying fighter fire.

[Dave]

I won't do it. You don't tell me you're not the boss of me.

[Chris Cody]

Look at that. Looking for the video audience there. That's me and my girl. That's my side piece right there.

[Dave]

I think the greatest bolt driving there might be if there's a better job.

[Chris Cody]

That's how we drive. She sits on my lap when I drive her.

[Dave]

Or talking about sports or dating JLo. If there's a better job than that, I think it is dream analysis because it's complete and utter unprovable garbage. You know what that means when you're falling? You know what it means when you're flying.

[Chris Cody]

You know what it means when your teeth are shattering?

[Jeremy]

I've had those.

[Amin]

Who knows what you don't know based on what? It has its own set of rules.

[Dave]

It's its own consciousness.

[Amin]

How do you have any idea?

[Dave]

Well, I'll let me tell you what it means when you. When you can't get up, you know,

[Amin]

you don't know anything. No meaning whatsoever.

[Dave]

Phony science.

[Jeremy]

There's a couple of things happen that. When you can't get up. We could talk about that another day, Dave.

[Dan Le Batard]

You think about your system.

[Dave]

Fire. Fire.

[Chris Cody]

Tony, I have. I have several recurring dreams. They don't happen all the time, but I have a few recurring dreams these days. And one of them is my. My teeth are. Are. Are crumbling. Are shattering.

[Kelly]

Yeah, I've had those.

[Jeremy]

Back in the day, maybe like 10

[Kelly]

years ago, I used to have those

[Jeremy]

every night where I would bite into something, all my teeth would fall out. And then I was like, what is this? And then one day they stopped.

[Chris Cody]

And I know people are like, oh, that means this when you're.

[Jeremy]

Chris is googling it right now.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, but I don't know. I mean, I told you I used.

[Greg]

Because you take the emotions and shove

[Kelly]

them down right here.

[Chris Cody]

So like a real man, that's where they belong.

[Greg]

Right, but that's why both of you have these teeth shattering.

[Jeremy]

But then they stopped.

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys got emotions like a 14 year old.

[Chris Cody]

I don't. I shove them down.

[Greg]

Sick reference, bro. You always have the best.

[Tony]

Crumbling teeth can symb. Fear that our life is falling apart.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, but like I. My life's not falling apart. I. I'm very happy.

[Mike]

Rough couple heat seasons.

[Chris Cody]

I have that recurring dream of teeth shattering. I also have a recurring dream of I'm back in school and I don't know why I'm back in school.

[Mike]

Because I have a job as a grown man.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, and. And I have this job, so why would I be back in school?

[Tony]

I make a great living, Billy Madison.

[Chris Cody]

No, I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm just like, I'm in. And. And in this school setting, I'm my age and everyone else's proper age.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait, so it's college or high school?

[Chris Cody]

Sometimes it's high school.

[Tony]

So it is Billy Madison.

[Mike]

Exactly. But he's not trying to prove anything.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, like I'm not being put through a test.

[Mike]

Doing it electively.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, but I don't understand why I'm here. Because I don't need to graduate. I have a great job.

[Dave]

That is my most recurring one. I think is is school and it's the last day of the semester and I did not go to class all semester long and now it's the big test and I'm like, well, there's just no way I can. There's just no way I can pass this class. And I'm panicked about that. And I'm like, oh, yes, this reflects your actual time in school, Dave. Yeah, it's just remembering, basically.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not a dream. So much of it's a memory.

[Dave]

Just recalling some of the past decades.

[Chris Cody]

And I have another recurring dream these days as well, and this one probably has meaning to it, but it's one of those where I, like, I'm missing work, I overslept or, or for whatever reason, I'm late and I'm missing the show that probably had. That's probably like a real fear that I have deep down again, probably with all the other emotions and feelings I have that are stuffed way down inside to never be heard or seen.

[Dave]

Your hand is gesturing way too closely to your genitals while you're saying, that's where you all problems are down here.

[Chris Cody]

That's where put the emotions.

[Mike]

That's what Dana White told us to do.

[Chris Cody]

Put them all down there.

[Mike]

A political appearance on Katie Miller's podcast. Happy Mental Health Awareness Month.

[Kelly]

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[Mike]

Hey, Roy, buddy. Yo. You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody all together in unison knows to stand up on their feet? Oh, absolutely, Mike.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You've been at many big time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Cuervo.

[Jeremy]

Oh, delicious.

[Mike]

It's the signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Cuervo, man. It's that high five. A random stranger effect.

[Amin]

That's right.

[Mike]

The game is popping. You're hugging people you never met before. That's the kind of energy that Cuervo brings. It's so smooth, so delicious. That's the Cuervo effect. Keep it Cuervo.

[Greg]

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[Newscaster]

how you love that cat. Bad news for opposing teams in the Triple A stugats. These all smiles till LeBron's a clutch again. Clutch again.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the St. GS.

[Dave]

So I have a waking nightmare. I Can share very quickly, too, after. And I'm not talking about watching the. The NBA playoffs. Those are just more boring. Hey, did you notice another blowout? Wow, what a stunner.

[Amin]

Hey.

[Dave]

Oh, the Knickerbockers were fairly close even in. Even though no one in MSG or watching on TV thought that the Sixers were actually maybe going to win.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm going to call it get out the Chickens. This guy's a fraud. There's no chance you stayed up for that late game. You looked it up today.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, it's a blowout.

[Dan Le Batard]

I didn't miss much. You just watching this game?

[Newscaster]

This game was great. You didn't even look up. This game. He can't even shoot a basketball. You have no idea. He probably misses all of his shots. He's probably terrible. He's the last pick in his pickup game you don't even know how to use. They blow by with no name. You have an old man game, and

[Dan Le Batard]

then at the box scores.

[Newscaster]

You read the box scores. Oh, sucking basketball. It was a big blowout. I'll use that for my material today.

[Dave]

A lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of geese. Now, listen, chicken, those weren't good. But then I turned my TV off before the end of the late game. You're absolutely right. But when I did it, it took me a few extra seconds more than it rightly should have because I went

[Amin]

for the remote in my hotel room and I hit the top button on the remote.

[Dave]

There's one button, singular, separated from all the other buttons underneath. That's the on off button, right? I mean, that's obviously the North Star of any remote, turning it on and turning it off.

[Amin]

So I do that. And I was reminded as I did it, oh, no. For some reason, this remote control's top button, the single one at the top

[Dave]

of the remote mountain, is not the on off button. It controls some other function that I have no goddamn interest in figuring out what it is.

[Amin]

No, the on off button is down to the left at an angle caddy

[Dave]

corner from the North Star button. I have to go scrounge around and figure, oh, this is the on off button to say my good nights. To find the cloak of darkness so that I can prepare myself in terms of rest, so that I can be at my best to hear about Chris

[Amin]

Cody talking about how he wants to make his love on his wife's twin sister. Now you think I'm in a bad mood for a reason. NBA remote. Chris Cody doing whatever the hell he's doing. We're all, we're off the rails.

[Tony]

Stop talking about that.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Knicks Sixers game was great.

[Chris Cody]

It was a good game.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was a great game. It was a great game. Dominic Barlow, how about that revelation?

[Chris Cody]

That was a good game, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a great game. It's a great game.

[Mike]

What do we make of the Sixers without him?

[Dan Le Batard]

Be well, here's the deal. They played a style that was a lot more competitive, obviously, in game one, but I believe Tony, back me up on this one. They got tired down the stretch. They kind of needed the big fella to just throw the ball, too, so we could all catch our breath.

[Jeremy]

Let him work a little bit in the post. Let him get a lot of the. A lot of the offense, you know, moving in and out.

[Mike]

Is it tough, Is it a fair criticism criticism to say they would also get tired with Joel Embiid because he labors up and down the court these days?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, but the laboring gives everyone a chance.

[Jeremy]

It like, slows the pace down almost.

[Dan Le Batard]

They played fast as a result, and that was great.

[Mike]

They're pace slows. He's best equipped for that. And they're better at the.

[Chris Cody]

And that usually happens in the fourth quarter.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

And how do you do the first

[Mike]

man, he is tough to watch getting up and down the floor these days.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, the lack of depth really hurt them. Like they couldn't go. That's why Barlow was such a great revelation in the second half there that Nick Nurse turns to. And he does great on both ends of the ball. But then he got tired because he didn't sub him out like his was working. So he just kept. Kept going on with him. I think Nick Nurse, if he had to do it all over again, maybe freshen up the rotation a little bit more. But again, it's tough in terms of the guards. They don't have much.

[Chris Cody]

So I brought this up before, and Amin yells at me when I do bring this up, I'm gonna bring it up again. I would assume Joel Embiid is going to play game three. All right. Day to day, I would assume he's gonna play play game three. And by the way, going into this series, like, the biggest reason that the Sixers are not going to win is because you can't count on Embiid to play an entire series. He didn't play an entire series in round one, and he already hasn't played an entire series in round two like that.

[Dave]

It's.

[Chris Cody]

It's why they're never going to be able to win with him. But the Part where Amin always gets mad at me when I bring this up is when Embiid is available. And maybe, maybe he's not even 100% like now when he couldn't play last game. Why play him in the first quarter? Why play him in the first quarter so he can, instead of be laboring in the fourth quarter when the game slows down, when you probably could have used him yesterday for a basket? A fresher player and a basket in the post. Why. Why does Embiid play in the first quarter? I'm not even necessarily saying only play in the second half, which is when Amin really gets mad at me, but what if you just start playing him in the second quarter?

[Dan Le Batard]

I think there's a couple of things. Number one, this argument where I yelled at you is because you suggested this as a form of load management, and that's ridiculous. But this is different. This is the case of, like, hey, he's only got so much for a particular game last night. I'm just assuming he couldn't play at all. The problem is, you're assuming it's like a video game where I can just sub him in and he'll be Joe lmb. Do, do, do, do. And like, guys need the rhythm to get into the game, particularly guys who are.

[Chris Cody]

He's pretty great in the first quarter of games. So when you say rhythm again into

[Dan Le Batard]

the game, but that's because everyone's starting. It's. It's like trying to get on a train that's slowly moving versus a full blown. The train is moving. I gotta run and jump on. Right? That's number one. Number two, especially the guy who's dealing with injuries and stuff and trying to play through it a lot of. And if he's accustomed to being a starter. I told the story before about Grant Hill. You're used to warming up and then, let's go play basketball versus warming up and. All right, now have a seat.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, we're watching Anthony Edwards do it these first two games with, you know, the Wolves and Spurs.

[Jeremy]

One of the most freak athletes we've ever seen, though, right? Like, that's, that's not the body of Joel Embiid. Joel Embiid can't sit for 45 real minutes and then be like, all right,

[Kelly]

buddy, get back out there.

[Dan Le Batard]

And also Anthony Edwards last night, not quite as cool as he looked in game one. And so, like, I wouldn't point to that as like, oh, that's how you do it. I think ultimately it's like, yo, is the guy healthy? Or not. That's what it comes down to. And Joel Embiid, this is why, like, it's a fair criticism in terms of, like, I can't count on him, but I don't like when people turn it into, like, he doesn't want to play or he's soft or that. That's where it gets.

[Chris Cody]

He definitely wants.

[Dan Le Batard]

He wants to play. He wants to be out there. If he could, he would. And he's just dealing with a lot. The guy's just unlucky.

[Jeremy]

I mean, is it. Is it Nick Nurse saving him for later on in the series? Because when you take Joel out and

[Kelly]

he's like, all right, he can't play.

[Jeremy]

If it was game six or seven,

[Chris Cody]

he would have pushed it.

[Jeremy]

But, like, what's the other option?

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, the other option, obviously, is. Is to play him in some sort of limited role to get. To slow down, to get these things going. But it's like, it's tough, man. Like, if the guy can't go. And again, he's dealing with two injuries. It's an ankle and a hip. This is besides the appendectomy that kept him out for the beginning of the playoffs, too.

[Mike]

Game seven, they were stretching out his, like, midsection.

[Dan Le Batard]

He said he was trolling. He claimed it was nothing. I was just doing that to troll them, but I don't know.

[Mike]

But he was, like, favoring.

[Chris Cody]

We're in the middle of game seven. He's like, how can I trick everyone?

[Dan Le Batard]

That's what he said. He said he was doing a bit.

[Mike]

He came out with an ice pack. He went into the locker room.

[Dan Le Batard]

He said he was doing a bit. I'm not saying I believe him. I'm just saying that that's how he explained what was going on there.

[Mike]

Game seven, famous stage for bits.

[Dave]

AJ Brown read a book. Book during.

[Mike]

What was it?

[Dave]

The title game. So I. It's not unheralded for guys to do bits in the middle of big games. I mean, though, as a thought experiment, off of what Zaz just brought up a more extreme version of bringing Embiid in for just certain quarters of games. What happens? Who's it tougher on? The Sixers, obviously their best player. You would think, nominally, or maybe not the adjustment of how you play with Embiid, with versus, without. In a way, I could see the Sixers feeling good during the game and then even after the game last night, because game three, to Zaza's point. Oh, now Embiid's going to be back. But it's such an Adjustment. It's almost like, you know, the Pittsburgh Pirates with Paul Skeens on the mound, and then you're playing the Pirates without Paul Skeens on the mound. It's two completely different approaches.

[Dan Le Batard]

I would say. Yes, except for the fact they have a lot of experience doing it.

[Listener/Caller]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Over the last several years.

[Dave]

I'm saying. So is it easier on the Sixers? And then it's a different. The Knickerbockers are now in a tough spot. Like, well, now we don't know if Embiid, if we're gonna have to play this kind of game versus without him.

[Chris Cody]

Well, I think that's what happened last night. Right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it obviously changed a lot. And then also, the Knicks didn't have Mitchell Robinson. He was out sick. OG Anunoby might be hurt, too. So there's other things happening in this series. But to answer your question, Dave, the Celtics very loudly and famously proudly said, we don't have to make any adjustments. They. They did not factor in that Embiid would come back. And then he came back and they literally had zero answers. Oh, no. They had an answer. Let's start. Luca Garza, Baylor Shireman and Ron Harper Jr. In game seven. That was their answer. But, yeah. So it.

[Chris Cody]

Bad coach for.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a bad coach for a team that is playing against the team that may or may not have its focal point.

[Dave]

But that's. But Right. So that kind of proves that point. It's the unforced error. The Celtics got got because they're like, well, we don't know what we're going to do with it. It got in their head and it ultimately cost them this year. You have said that repeatedly this week. And I think there's. It's a valid point. They adjusted their lineup unnecessarily because of Embiid's presence or absence.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I would say they adjusted their lineup stupidly, maybe not unnecessarily. And there was. I think there were different ways to go about it than what the way they went about it. But that was also in reaction to not adjusting for the prior two games where he was playing and getting better and eating them up. And they had no answers. So I think it can be difficult. But also because the Sixers have played a lot without Embiid, there is tape. We do know how they want to play. We know they want to play faster. We know they want to play. And Edgecombe. And then. But then here's. Here's the wild card, really. It's Paul George. Paul George if they had won that game last night, Paul George probably would have been man of the match, right? Because offensively he was incredible shooting from

[Chris Cody]

deep, good shot selection with 30 seconds.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, that one. Other than that one play, all piece strikes again. Come on, like, get that medicine.

[Chris Cody]

Who was it?

[Dave]

That.

[Chris Cody]

Was it Edgecomb that was. Or who was yelling at him about the shots? One of the other players, like, what are you doing?

[Dan Le Batard]

I can't remember. It might have been Kelly Oubrey, but I don't remember.

[Newscaster]

But.

[Dan Le Batard]

But the other part was defensively, right when they had the foul trouble with Adam Bona, with Andre Drummond and Barlow is, bless his heart, but he's playing like 700 minutes in a row. He's getting tired. They put Paul George on Carl Anthony Towns, and that kind of really mucked up the Knicks offense a lot. Like, because what Towns had been able to do take advantage of was, if you're smaller than me, I'll post you up. If you're bigger than me, you try to close out. I can get past you and I can make plays. And Paul George is a pretty big dude, even though we don't think of him that way, but also, obviously an elite perimeter defender. So he did an amazing job. If it weren't for the fact that they lost that game, we'd be talking about Paul George today. And that's the one that's hard to game plan against because remember, he missed 25 games this year due to suspension for PED use.

[Chris Cody]

It's a blessing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it's an absolute. But it's the best thing that happened to the Sixers all year long.

[Mike]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard if Daniel Day Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself.

[Mike]

Oh, come on. Yeah, I would be.

[Greg]

Aggressive Description.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, what is it? What is that? I'm just saying.

[Mike]

No, that's just saying what? That's me.

[Amin]

Daniel Day.

[Mike]

Yeah, I see that photo of Daniel Day Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln. And you know what I do Amin stugats. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do.

[Chris Cody]

Lincoln, who you outed the other day,

[Mike]

don't make this a rejoin.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Dan Lebatar show with the stugats.

[Jeremy]

I mean, is that a note for Nick Marison defensively? All right, maybe what we can do to muckle the game and to force a different look on the Knicks is put Paul George on cat almost full time.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think the best thing is to just keep mixing it up and. And Nick Nurse is a genius at that like of throwing different defenses. He's done this in the past with Toronto, like where most teams have a base defense, like, hey, we're going to guard, pick and rolls high like this on a side like this, whatever. And Nick Nurse will have all these custom made defenses in a regular season setting. That usually doesn't happen. So if there's anyone in the league where I can think of like coming up with some shit on the fly, it's him. But I don't think it's like, hey, we're just going to guard you with this guy continuously.

[Greg]

With Paul George having this level of success, it gives me an idea. Should Kawhi Leonard or other players who need to limit themselves until the postseason purposefully take banned substances to get suspended? So instead of it being an issue with tanking games.

[Amin]

Not bad.

[Greg]

Or with sitting out, getting lost.

[Jeremy]

12 million bucks, though.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, so he's fine.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

But, so there's a couple of things. Number one, yeah, like you lose your, your paychecks.

[Greg]

I have some whimsy, number one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Number two, and this is the big one here, right? Like Paul George could do that because he's legitimately like the third or fourth most important player on this team. Even though as we see, he's very talented.

[Greg]

Yeah, but those guys are missing games anyway.

[Amin]

Like, why not just give them a

[Greg]

run where they can learn how to do it? By the way, just in case you miss time in the playoffs. Just like the Sixers, Right. Like in Paul George's case, he is healthy right now, but who was to

[Listener/Caller]

say he would be?

[Greg]

So if Embiid, for example, had missed a 25 game run, but it was because of a suspension.

[Mike]

Jeremy, he might be healthy right now because of the banned substances too, and they, they help recover.

[Dan Le Batard]

Maybe that's not what he took. He took like, he took like some over the counter or whatever.

[Greg]

Some whimsy have whimsy.

[Chris Cody]

So I don't know if you guys saw this. The, the owner of the Milwaukee Bucks, Jimmy Haslam, right, who also owns the Cleveland Browns, he talked yesterday and I thought, I mean, I thought it was dead giveaway about what the Milwaukee Bucks plan is here with Giannis Antetokounmpo. Give this a listen.

[Jimmy Haslam]

I just think before the draft is a natural time, right, because you're going to, you know, if Giannis does play somewhere else, we ought to get a lot of assets and that's John's job to do it. If he's here, then you build the team differently. So I just want to stress though that our relationship with him, despite what is reported by certain ESPN riders, is very Positive.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is this a decision that keeps you up at night? It's a big one.

[Jimmy Haslam]

It's a big one, and you got to get it right. And John knows it and Wes knows it. And we didn't hold back with Taylor. We just said, listen, he may or may not be with us, so don't come because of that, because you want to be straight up.

[Chris Cody]

So this is now the second time that there's been a reference like this. The first one was, you know, that we. We will, you know, we're not going to lose Giannis for nothing, and we're going to offer him the max, and if he doesn't accept it, then we're going to trade him. That was said, what it was like a month and a half ago, something like that. And you don't normally hear someone speak that way about your star player. And now you have this where the owner is telling you there's going to be a resolution one way or another before. Before the draft, specifically because you want to get assets if you are going to trade the player. But if you want. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong here, if you want a resolution, the only resolution is trading him. Because even if you offer him this extension and he signs it, that's not a resolution. That doesn't stop anything. That doesn't stop Giannis from six months from now. I don't like what's happening here. I want to trade. Like, the only resolution that he's talking about is being out of the honest business. Wrong.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I mean, I think he's trying to say all the right things. That's the problem. Everyone's trying to say the right thing. Giannis is trying to say the right thing. Jimmy Haslam, which is the first time I ever heard his voice, and I did not know that he had that thick of a twang. He's trying to say the right thing.

[Mike]

And can you imagine that guy asking a homeless person for advice on the quarterback?

[Dan Le Batard]

What would you do at quarterback? What?

[Chris Cody]

I mean, it's just. It's very clear that he's going to be traded before the deadline is the first time. Before the draft. Excuse me.

[Jeremy]

It's the first time we really hear anything like this.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

On the heels of the Jaylen Brown conversation and stream, where it's like, could Jaylen Brown be had?

[Dan Le Batard]

And all.

[Chris Cody]

You're connecting dots.

[Jeremy]

Somebody in the. In the Milwaukee Bucks was like, all

[Chris Cody]

right, wait a second, hold up.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's my gimmick.

[Jeremy]

If. If he's. If he's available or he wants to get moved. We can make something happen here where we can send some picks here, we can take some picks from over there, we can get Jaylen Brown and not really lose as much face to the fans. Getting another All Star player in Milwaukee.

[Chris Cody]

Connecting dots.

[Dave]

I think that I, that makes a lot of sense. It's nice and clean. The thing that Amin and Nick Wright and everybody in here was talking about yesterday, that I think is. Is pretty intriguing, is another thought experiment is from the CE Celtics point of view, from the Bucks point of view, what makes sense. I, I mean, it really does, as you add it up. Jalen Brown with the. This is my favorite season ever. And all of that kind of talk, it does kind of indicate.

[Amin]

And even though they want to title,

[Dave]

people still say you're. You're doubling down at the same position. There's redundancy there. Maybe it does make better sense to pair Giannis with Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum, but what's the right answer there? I mean, if you're the general, if you're Brad Stevens, first of all, start from that point of view. Which way are you going? Are you trading Jason Tatum and getting Giannis to play with Jalen Brown? Indulge what Zaz is getting at here, that maybe you would trade for one of those two Celtics, which is the, the, the correct play here for both sides.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I would start with, obviously goes with health. What's Jayson Tatum looking like? Yes, I get it. He came back and he played and he missed the last game because of whatever. But, like, overall, what does my medical team say? He's on the road to recovery, he'll be fine. If that's what we're going with, then I think I'd go with Tatum for a couple reasons. Number one, Tatum, better perimeter shooter, better suited, basketball wise to fit alongside Giannis, who's very paint dominated. Right. Number two, also disposition wise. Again, what we've learned from Jaylen Brown is, hey, I really like being the number one banana, right? And Giannis might come in and say, hey, I'm just here to help. But the reality is he's such a dominant personality and dominant basketball force, it's almost impossible to marginalize him in, you know, in favor of someone playing on the perimeter. So maybe personality fit, desire fit. Tatum also beats over there. And then number three is, even if I know that Tatum is fine, the trade market might be like, wait a second. This guy's come back from an Achilles. He missed games in the playoffs. I'm not trying to give up market value for that guy, even though there's a good chance in six months he'll be fine. Brown is the guy who's coming off of a career year. Brown is a guy who's healthy. Brown is the guy who's probably at this stage right now is going to net the biggest hole. Because as I think Tony was talking about yesterday, the reality is it probably won't be Brown to Milwaukee. It'll be Brown somewhere else. Milwaukee gets a bunch of young players and picks and gets to start over.

[Mike]

Atlanta makes so much sense.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yep.

[Chris Cody]

Why do you say Brown wouldn't go to Milwaukee? Because, like, it wouldn't make sense. Because Milwaukee's trying to rebuild or because Jalen Brown be like, I don't want to go here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let me put it this way. Look at the Milwaukee Bucks, right as is. Now give them Giannis Antonokounmpo. What were they, a 500 team?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right. So now give them Jalen Brown, who I think we can all agree career year or not, not as good as Giannis Antonokoun.

[Dave]

Right. I feel like just from a marketing standpoint, that'd be like, we gave away this guy who felt like the best player in the league, or in fact was the best player in the league. Jalen Brown. Great. I feel underwhelmed, but I'm a Bucks fan. If it broke that way, it would

[Dan Le Batard]

be the best player that they could get back in any one of these respective deals. But having said that, like, it probably come with picks, it wouldn't be just one for one.

[Tony]

But compared to Giannis, I agree with Dave.

[Dan Le Batard]

Sure. No, absolutely everyone does. But again, if you're saying Giannis is gone and they went from, I guess, Tyler Hero and three picks to wait, we got Jalen Brown and a couple of picks.

[Jeremy]

It's a huge win for them.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a huge win for Milwaukee. Having said that, realistically, that does not move the needle for where they are as a franchise as far as winning

[Greg]

and losing might just make them a middling team still.

[Chris Cody]

Right.

[Greg]

If you are them, like, I don't know if it was someone in here who brought it up yesterday, but the idea of getting Jalen Brown to Atlanta and getting a top pick back and potentially other young pieces and future picks so that you can bottom out, that might be the way to go about it. So that that way you're working Atlanta into being a better team. You can hit bottom at a time where you don't have your star rather than acquiring another one. But from a ticket sales perspective. And from a competitive standpoint, bringing in Jayle and being able to build around whatever he is is obviously a better starting point than the unknown.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I mean, put differently, if you look at their roster, who do you have to be optimistic about? Like that guy.

[Chris Cody]

Milwaukee.

[Dan Le Batard]

Milwaukee. That guy could really become something one day.

[Chris Cody]

The Rollins kid, right? Like, that's.

[Dan Le Batard]

It looks like he's going to be a decent NBA player. That's what he looks like.

[Mike]

And the clip that we just played of Jimmy Haslam sounded like somebody that wanted to asset, build.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Not. Not. Let's. Let's just replace Giannis with Jalen Brown.

[Dave]

I hear what you're saying, Amit, about, like, you must understand, you must live in the world as it exists, not the one you want. And so if you're a Bucks fan, you wish it would work out with Giannis, but it feels like it's not going to. That said, it's terrible to trade a generational talent. You know, I keep talking about it this week and off of the comments of the Edmonton Oilers as they lose this series and their two stars, Connor McJesus and Leon Draisaitla. So it feels like that's tracking in the wrong direction, too. The obstacle is if you're on Edmonton's side or even if you're just an objective hockey fan. Like, we can't trade. Can't trade that guy. Can't trade the. One of the five best players in history.

[Amin]

Except that the Edmonton Oilers already traded

[Dave]

the alleged best player of all time in Wayne Gretzky. You guys in Miami love your stars. You go and get Messi, even though he's past his prime. You have LeBron, and I suspect that that is the reason you have a lot of the conflicting emotions you have. He came here in his prime and delivered you guys some titles, but then he bailed on you guys. It's.

[Amin]

It.

[Dave]

It's interesting letting the guy. He's in your house and you're. And. And you're letting him go, Will. In fact, you're giving him. You're paying his taxi fare to leave. It's a weird move.

[Greg]

Sounds like what Chris is willing to do with his wife.

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